The Estate

[nrico2006]

The mother should be given an extra fiver, told to buy a razor and shave that stinking moustache off as well. What was the justification for giving the 'Proddy Orange Bathroom' bellend his own place? Cos he didn't get on with his da and he wanted a bit of peace and quiet to have a few drinks? Then he's sitting watching a tv that's nearly bigger than himself. DLA as well? More than likely lifted out of someone elses home a few streets away...

Was that boy getting DLA too?

[screenmachine]

Well whatever he was getting he was getting far too much.  He didn't seem to have any children so I'd imagine he would have to concoct some story to get his own place or do they just hand them out to these wasters when they hit a certain age.  If he was only on the brew and getting 50 or 60 pound a week he'd hardly be sitting drinking Magner's, smoking all day and then heading to the chip van to buy his dinner?

Fair enough if they don't want to work but they shouldn't be handed houses to live in for the sake of it.  Why would they ever go to work when they can get a house and get everything paid for them? 

Mother's such as thon wench with the moustache should be told as well after one or two children that if she has any further children her payments will be stopped.  Five children, no father - sure I can live on benefits for the rest of my days...How about, right you have had two children and have never worked in your life and are using your children as a fast track to benefits.  Have any more and your payments will be reduced/stopped.  You cannot support your children so do not have any more, here's a packet of condoms. Use them or else.

[nrico2006]

Well whatever he was getting he was getting far too much.  He didn't seem to have any children so I'd imagine he would have to concoct some story to get his own place or do they just hand them out to these wasters when they hit a certain age.  If he was only on the brew and getting 50 or 60 pound a week he'd hardly be sitting drinking Magner's, smoking all day and then heading to the chip van to buy his dinner?

Fair enough if they don't want to work but they shouldn't be handed houses to live in for the sake of it.  Why would they ever go to work when they can get a house and get everything paid for them? 

Mother's such as thon wench with the moustache should be told as well after one or two children that if she has any further children her payments will be stopped.  Five children, no father - sure I can live on benefits for the rest of my days...How about, right you have had two children and have never worked in your life and are using your children as a fast track to benefits.  Have any more and your payments will be reduced/stopped.  You cannot support your children so do not have any more, here's a packet of condoms. Use them or else.

Good post.

[NAG1]

Why is there a programme being made about this place? Is this really how the license fee should be used? To follow a series of people who contribute nothing to our society.

Give the money to David Attenborough or BBC Sport or whoever, just use it in a way that isnt this pathetic drivel.

[Hereiam]

Watched it last nite. Why would you work if your gettin it handed out to you. Would make ur blood boil.

[Rawhide]

The trailer reminds me of a programme that was on last year called The Scheme - looked like a similar type show except it was set in Kilmarnock

identical

[screenmachine]

It does leave you feeling a bit like a mug when you pay income tax and rent/mortgage and whatever else when these vermin get everything paid for them. 

There is nothing in place in that estate or society that encourages these people to go to work.  You have little or no education so you can work 40 hours a week at a low income job and scrape along paying your bills and taxes, etc.  Or, you can lie around on your hole all day, knock out a few sprogs and we will give you a house rent free, hand you over just as much or even more than you would get if you were working and then throw in the odd bonus of heating allowance and whatever else you can get on these benefits.

In my opinion, anyone who is on benefits and isn't genuinely ill should be out picking rubbish of the street, cleaning grafitti, tidying flower beds, filling in pot holes, etc. to earn their benefits.  If they don't do it, they don't get paid...Simples...

[HiMucker]

Well whatever he was getting he was getting far too much.  He didn't seem to have any children so I'd imagine he would have to concoct some story to get his own place or do they just hand them out to these wasters when they hit a certain age.  If he was only on the brew and getting 50 or 60 pound a week he'd hardly be sitting drinking Magner's, smoking all day and then heading to the chip van to buy his dinner?

Fair enough if they don't want to work but they shouldn't be handed houses to live in for the sake of it.  Why would they ever go to work when they can get a house and get everything paid for them? 

Mother's such as thon wench with the moustache should be told as well after one or two children that if she has any further children her payments will be stopped.  Five children, no father - sure I can live on benefits for the rest of my days...How about, right you have had two children and have never worked in your life and are using your children as a fast track to benefits.  Have any more and your payments will be reduced/stopped.  You cannot support your children so do not have any more, here's a packet of condoms. Use them or else.

Look there are too many spongers getting too much money for FCUK ALL!  However that said, your solution would be catastrophic!  If a single parent has more kids, and their benefit is reduced, then it will inturn be harder to raise them, and may lead to kids growing up in poverty or being taken into care because the parent cant afford to raise them.  Costing the state even more money.
Its not the celled benefit that should be stopped its the child care benefit that should be stopped!  My partner and myself both work full time and have to pay £100 a week in child care.  However single unemployed parents or parents on DLA or job seekers allowance get the child care free!  So they sit at home and send their kids to the creche!  We are now looking to get a place for the kid in a pre school which will save us a bit of money, however these places go to kids whose parent are on job seekers allowance or DLA first.  Complete madness and a waste of state money.  It makes me seriously angry 

[screenmachine]

Aye, it's probably not as clear cut as I make it out to be there but there has to be some measure put in place to stop people like this having children as a meal ticket to more benefits.  By the looks of it there isn't much rearing of children going on in that house anyway, the kids basically have the run of the house and just wreck it while hairy lip sits downstairs and smokes.  It's going to cost money either way and at least the child would have a better chance of getting out of the estate if they were put into care/adopted.

Its not the celled benefit that should be stopped its the child care benefit that should be stopped!  My partner and myself both work full time and have to pay £100 a week in child care.  However single unemployed parents or parents on DLA or job seekers allowance get the child care free!  So they sit at home and send their kids to the creche!  We are now looking to get a place for the kid in a pre school which will save us a bit of money, however these places go to kids whose parent are on job seekers allowance or DLA first.

That's just mental.  Why would the government give money to someone to pay for childcare when they are sitting at home anyway.  Maybe my idea of waiting until they had kids before they had their benefits cut was wrong.  Maybe they should be sterilised so they can't possibly have any more. 

[borderfox]

Right thats it! Im jackin in the job and goin down to the brew with a bottle of buckfast to see what I can get for nothin

[Hereiam]

Mucker is right. I am also paying over £100 week on child care while some parents are payin fook all and doing fook all.

[bailestil]

Its not the celled benefit that should be stopped its the child care benefit that should be stopped!  My partner and myself both work full time and have to pay £100 a week in child care.  However single unemployed parents or parents on DLA or job seekers allowance get the child care free!  So they sit at home and send their kids to the creche!  We are now looking to get a place for the kid in a pre school which will save us a bit of money, however these places go to kids whose parent are on job seekers allowance or DLA first.

I had heard about that before and its a Scandal of the highest order.
But you won't hear politicians mentioning it.
They know what side their bread is buttered on.

Its true that the working class term rarely exists anymore. Idleness is a disease in some parts.

Ian Duncan Smith is on the warpath on this very topic. N.I is gonna get a rude awakening shortly.

I await the socialists to appear here and say its all the states fault, cause there is no jobs.

[NAG1]

These ones wouldnt work even if there was a surplus of jobs for them, its not in them to do any work.

[screenmachine]

There's jobs surely, just jobs that these people don't want to do.  In the mind of Kelly Ann who didn't fancy the idea of school, she wanted to go to school two or three days a week from 1-3.  Who the f**k would employ someone with that attitude?

I would put her into a young offenders centre if she continued to miss school.  Anyone who is up at 8 O'Clock and can't get out the door for 9 when they have a work placement needs slapped.  I think she went out in the same clothes she had slept in so she hardly spent the time tidying herself up.

[Minder]

There was a marked difference in the couple that both worked and owned their house, he was getting £250 a week working in a warehouse so after paying mortgage etc they probably had less money in their pocket than the wasters on the estate yet their house wasn't like some squat.