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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #1395 on: July 14, 2021, 11:07:23 AM »
Beaten by KK by 14 points in the minor round robin in 2018.

Good to see that we've improved through the age groups which is a good sign.

U'20 grade is far more important for transition to senior.

Pity they couldn't get the win. It would have been a mighty boost for hurling.

There are some great groups coming through, of which the current 20s are the first. Pity that two of those groups were destroyed by one man at minor. Hopefully we can rebuild them with good coaching at u20 and senior. The future is definitely encouraging. 

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #1396 on: July 18, 2021, 10:25:47 AM »
Couldnt watch the u20 game last week. Is it online anywhere?

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #1397 on: August 05, 2021, 10:05:35 AM »
I see Portlaoise took an unmerciful beating from the Harps in U15A hurling. 18-20 to 2-01.

Has a Portlaoise team at any grade ever taking such a beating.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #1398 on: August 05, 2021, 02:54:59 PM »
Harps are going to win that championship very easily. No one has got closer than 20 points to them, and they've also had a couple of 40+ point winning margins. Also, Portlaoise aren't strong at that age grade, but more or less found themselves in the 'A' because they were in a weak enough preliminary group, albeit one including Mountrath, who beat them 11-15 to 1-2. I'd imagine the final will be between Harps and Mountrath (or possibly Abbeyleix), with Harps winning by at least 15 points.

Of COURSE, Portlaoise should be doing a lot better, but at u15 Borris, Camross, and Ballacolla are all weak, and in the 'B' championship. And I think Portlaoise are reasonably good at minor level. Hard to be wonderful all the time!

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #1399 on: August 05, 2021, 03:19:48 PM »
They have a pick of a 3rd of the population to themselves, if they had serious competition for players from another club in the town it would force them to improve their standards of coaching and player retention, as it is they are at best coasting along
You look in Kildare and Naas who is a simular albeit slightly smaller town with one club dominating leagues in Kilkenny or in a bad year very competitive, meanwhile Portlaoise are playing in B competitions regularly these days

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #1400 on: August 05, 2021, 04:20:09 PM »
Harps are going to win that championship very easily. No one has got closer than 20 points to them, and they've also had a couple of 40+ point winning margins. Also, Portlaoise aren't strong at that age grade, but more or less found themselves in the 'A' because they were in a weak enough preliminary group, albeit one including Mountrath, who beat them 11-15 to 1-2. I'd imagine the final will be between Harps and Mountrath (or possibly Abbeyleix), with Harps winning by at least 15 points.

Of COURSE, Portlaoise should be doing a lot better, but at u15 Borris, Camross, and Ballacolla are all weak, and in the 'B' championship. And I think Portlaoise are reasonably good at minor level. Hard to be wonderful all the time!


Comparing Portlaoise to the likes of small rural clubs is muddying the water at best and disingenuous at worst

Camross have a good crop at minor this year and will be better again next year when those lads are at the age
Ballacolla are competitive and will have lads to feed into the adult set up in time
Borris are struggling at u15 and 13 and 11 but they have a good few lads of 17/18/19 coming in their ranks at adult, they arent caught for numbers at juvenile and they will come good in time.

you are going to have that with rural clubs when you get a good crop in a particular age bracket and you bring them through

You should have a good crop every year with Portlaoise given the size of the parish and the resources available.

Portlaoise should have a team in every division in every age grade and in both codes up and including u17.

instead you got mauled in the u15 last night,you donít have a second lower division u15 team as you donít have the numbers

your u13 first team are already headed for the B with a round to play,

your second u13 team won 1 game on the field of play and are in the C and your minors,I cant see pulling up any trees this year either,given that ye have been yo yoing between A and B for the past few years at that age grade.


While the Harps are favorites, I fancy the winners of Abbeyleix and Mountrath to give them a game in the final.



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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #1401 on: August 24, 2021, 05:28:38 PM »
Something that could be replicated here,if there was a will

Play in either Kk or Tipp leagues

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #1402 on: August 24, 2021, 06:13:47 PM »
It has been done. The Harps used to play in KK leagues, and Clonad did it a while ago, possibly at u14.  Maybe some others, too? But, no - no one currently.

Oh, re. your previous post - I see Portlaoise minors are 'pulling up trees' in their championship, beating R/E by 25 points, or something. Yeah, but just to pick up, I don't think R/E, B/K or even Camross can be described as 'small rural clubs'. They have big areas. A 'small rural club' is Trumera, Colt, Ballyfin, etc.

By the way, I'm not a Portlaoiser, either. But I do know they only had a couple of 15 year olds on their u15s. Most will be that age again next year. Not saying they'll pull up trees then, either. Heh!

But I think a lot of the problem in Portlaoise is that hurling doesn't get much of a look-in in the schools, and the CBS doesn't take it seriously at all.

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Re: The future of laois hurling
« Reply #1403 on: August 25, 2021, 12:11:06 PM »
It has been done. The Harps used to play in KK leagues, and Clonad did it a while ago, possibly at u14.  Maybe some others, too? But, no - no one currently.

Oh, re. your previous post - I see Portlaoise minors are 'tearing up trees' (a phrase you edited out!) in their championship, beating R/E by 25 points, or something. Yeah, but just to pick up, I don't think R/E, B/K or even Camross can be described as 'small rural clubs'. They have big areas. A 'small rural club' is Trumera, Colt, Ballyfin, etc.

By the way, I'm not a Portlaoiser, either. But I do know they only had a couple of 15 year olds on their u15s. Most will be that age again next year. Not saying they'll tear up trees then, either. Heh!

But I think a lot of the problem in Portlaoise is that hurling doesn't get much of a look-in in the schools, and the CBS doesn't take it seriously at all.

Harps played in kilkenny league this year and have done for 10 years +. I agree portlaoise have a real problem. They have 3 or 4 players to the age at u15 level. How is this allowed happened. The sooner some form of action group is set up within portlaoise gaa club the better.