Ulster Colleges

[square_ball]

What a kick there

https://x.com/ulsterschools/status/1746190612494254166?s=46

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

Declan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.

Still going with Seamus Shivers.

3 December 1989

NFL Derry 3-5 Cork 4-12

Derry team: D McCusker; K McKeever, T Scullion, P O'Donnell; J McGurk (0-1), B McPeake (RIP), G McPeake; E Heaney, D Barton (0-1); S Shivers (1-1), PJ McCormack, M Berryman; R Scullion (2-2), L Devlin, J O'Neill. Subs: P Gribbin, E Gribbin.

Though I think maybe Barry Young from Glen also got an NFL game or two.

[GTP]

Totally off topic but is that 4 of 7 all ireland winners in defence and goals conceding 4-12 and none of the squad in the forwards. Barton excluded as midfield.

[marty34]

Totally off topic but is that 4 of 7 all ireland winners in defence and goals conceding 4-12 and none of the squad in the forwards. Barton excluded as midfield.

Didn't park the bus in them days.

[ONeill]

Rare name, Shivers.

[Wildweasel74]

Big John Mulholland came to the Convent from St Pius.

[Newbridge Exile]

Declan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.

Still going with Seamus Shivers.

3 December 1989

NFL Derry 3-5 Cork 4-12

Derry team: D McCusker; K McKeever, T Scullion, P O'Donnell; J McGurk (0-1), B McPeake (RIP), G McPeake; E Heaney, D Barton (0-1); S Shivers (1-1), PJ McCormack, M Berryman; R Scullion (2-2), L Devlin, J O'Neill. Subs: P Gribbin, E Gribbin.

Though I think maybe Barry Young from Glen also got an NFL game or two.

Seamus was some servant for Castledawson ,in the 84 county final he lined out for then and was still under 16 from memory

[trailer]

High drama in the Academy Patrician game. Penalty shootout with the Academy coming out on top after 9 pens each. 3 or the 4 SF are Tyrone clubs. The Academy now face Donaghmore in a East Tyrone Showdown with Omagh taking on Magherafelt.

[bennydorano]

Any word of the semis? If anywhere near I'd probably go and watch Donaghmore v Dungannon. Form lines there suggest a Donaghmore win but who knows in such a derby.

Cahir O'Kane gave Maghera v Magherafelt a bad review in his Irish News article today, a state of the football nation statement rather than a direct indictment of this particular game - a symptom rather than cause argument. Having been to 10 or so school games between Rannafast  & MacRory Cup this autumn/winter involving St Pats Armagh I can tell you that every single team I've watched plays the same way, there must be a coaching manual emailed out from the CCMS -  it is brutal to watch.

[Goals_Will_Come]

Any word of the semis? If anywhere near I'd probably go and watch Donaghmore v Dungannon. Form lines there suggest a Donaghmore win but who knows in such a derby.

Chair O'Kane gave Maghera v Magherafelt a bad review in his Irish News article today, a state of the football nation statement rather than a direct indictment of this particular game - a symptom rather than cause argument. Having been to 10 or so school games between Rannafast  & MacRory Cup this autumn/winter involving St Pats Armagh I can tell you that every single team I've watched plays the same way, there must be a coaching manual emailed out from the CCMS -  it is brutal to watch.

Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm
St Joseph's Donaghmore V St Patrick's Academy Dungannon - Carrickmore 27/1/24 - tbc

[Goals_Will_Come]

Any word of the semis? If anywhere near I'd probably go and watch Donaghmore v Dungannon. Form lines there suggest a Donaghmore win but who knows in such a derby.

Chair O'Kane gave Maghera v Magherafelt a bad review in his Irish News article today, a state of the football nation statement rather than a direct indictment of this particular game - a symptom rather than cause argument. Having been to 10 or so school games between Rannafast  & MacRory Cup this autumn/winter involving St Pats Armagh I can tell you that every single team I've watched plays the same way, there must be a coaching manual emailed out from the CCMS -  it is brutal to watch.

Teams have to be set up these days. To not have a setup in place would be naive at this point. The problem comes with teams having a lack of attacking plan to break teams down, a lack of inventiveness, a lack of pace and drive, a lack of stretching the opposition lines. This is what separates the good coaches and teams from the pack.

[imtommygunn]

When two teams mirror each other with the defensive setup it's horrendous - beat example I can think of at county was 2014 AI final between Kerry and Donegal.

Those two derry teams have some great footballers between them too - as good as is about.

[shawshank]

For me its the gap in the attacking coaching is the problem, not the defensive system.

[bennydorano]

Any word of the semis? If anywhere near I'd probably go and watch Donaghmore v Dungannon. Form lines there suggest a Donaghmore win but who knows in such a derby.

Chair O'Kane gave Maghera v Magherafelt a bad review in his Irish News article today, a state of the football nation statement rather than a direct indictment of this particular game - a symptom rather than cause argument. Having been to 10 or so school games between Rannafast  & MacRory Cup this autumn/winter involving St Pats Armagh I can tell you that every single team I've watched plays the same way, there must be a coaching manual emailed out from the CCMS -  it is brutal to watch.

Teams have to be set up these days. To not have a setup in place would be naive at this point. The problem comes with teams having a lack of attacking plan to break teams down, a lack of inventiveness, a lack of pace and drive, a lack of stretching the opposition lines. This is what separates the good coaches and teams from the pack.

I agree to an extent but it's also a self perpetuating fallacy, sort of the point Cahir was making, if everyone is doing it it becomes the orthodoxy (& we're well past that stage now). Plus in tight games of this nature the quality players come to the fore - they always do & will - in spite of the system that is looking them to be robots.

[imtommygunn]

For me its the gap in the attacking coaching is the problem, not the defensive system.

It's so much harder to to the attacking plan. Donegal 2011 vs 2012 - it took a year for a county team training god knows how much to perfect defense and attack. The defense is easier but I think the attack takes time and the likes of school teams etc are never going to have that time tbh.