Ulster Colleges

Started by Line Ball, October 13, 2012, 06:59:14 PM

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thewobbler

If a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.

We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.



Armagh18

Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 01:46:24 PMIf a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.

We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.



Know plenty of lads that were totally useless in school but stayed on because of football. Some of them ended up getting into uni through football then handy teaching jobs, some went to uni and wasted a year and ended up being useless later in life as well, some left uni went to a trade and are now earning great money. 

LC

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 02, 2024, 01:50:08 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 01:46:24 PMIf a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.

We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.



Know plenty of lads that were totally useless in school but stayed on because of football. Some of them ended up getting into uni through football then handy teaching jobs, some went to uni and wasted a year and ended up being useless later in life as well, some left uni went to a trade and are now earning great money.

Very true some guys catch themselves on whereas others still in their 30s still live in the bubble they were in in their late teens / early 20s. 

marty34

Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 01:46:24 PMIf a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.

We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.




Bit harsh that.

johnnycool

Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 01:46:24 PMIf a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.

We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.



We'd a few lads get university places based on UUJ's soaring stars or whatever it was called and Mageean Cup performances and they needed less entry points that you'd normally need to get onto a course.

If the raw materials aren't there to do the course then they're wasting their time, but I suppose no harm in giving it a go.


LC

It was alright in the 90s  going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications.  Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans.  Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.

marty34

Quote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s  going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications.  Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans.  Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.

It's all relative.

LC

To a point.

However I think graduates nowadays are finding it more difficult / taking longer to get out from under student debt compared to years gone by.

Ethan Tremblay

I always wondered about teachers persuading kids into returning for their A-Levels for the sole benefit of playing football, knowing fine well they are going to do nothing results wise, and are ultimately wasting years of their lives at school. 
I tend to think of myself as a one man wolfpack...

thewobbler

If the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:

1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.

2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.

3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.

Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.

Armagh18

Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:

1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.

2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.

3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.

Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.

Yeah spot on. No harm in lads pissing about for a year in uni tbh.

trailer

Quote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s  going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications.  Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans.  Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.

Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:

1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.

2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.

3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.

Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.


Think the days of getting to stay in a school because of football is over. And fellas going to J'stown to do some bullshit course and play some football should catch themselves on as well. Most employers put CVs with J'stown degrees on them straight into the bin.


Milltown Row2

Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2024, 10:00:26 AM
Quote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s  going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications.  Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans.  Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.

Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:

1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.

2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.

3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.

Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.


Think the days of getting to stay in a school because of football is over. And fellas going to J'stown to do some bullshit course and play some football should catch themselves on as well. Most employers put CVs with J'stown degrees on them straight into the bin.



That's just full of crap
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Armagh18

Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2024, 10:00:26 AM
Quote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s  going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications.  Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans.  Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.

Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:

1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.

2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.

3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.

Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.


Think the days of getting to stay in a school because of football is over. And fellas going to J'stown to do some bullshit course and play some football should catch themselves on as well. Most employers put CVs with J'stown degrees on them straight into the bin.


100% wrong lol

general_lee

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 03, 2024, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2024, 10:00:26 AM
Quote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s  going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications.  Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans.  Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.

Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:

1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.

2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.

3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.

Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.


Think the days of getting to stay in a school because of football is over. And fellas going to J'stown to do some bullshit course and play some football should catch themselves on as well. Most employers put CVs with J'stown degrees on them straight into the bin.


100% wrong lol
Degrees count for very little nowadays no matter where they're from.