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Title: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on October 13, 2012, 06:59:14 PM
I see the MacRory Cup started today and St Colmans got off to a win.  Why were there no other games played today as normally there who be four or five games on?

Report from Ulster Colleges website.
St Colman's open 90th MacRory Cup with win

October 13, 2012

Danske Bank MacRory Cup

St Colman's Newry 2-7 Omagh CBS 1-6

St Colman's Newry should be pleased with their opening victory in the Danske Bank MacRory Cup in Armagh on Saturday.

The record 19 times champions defeated Omagh CBS by 2-7 to 1-6, but head coach Cathal Murray saw it as a mixed bag.

"There were some good points and also a few of the other.  We started well and finished well, but in between was a bit iffy."

"However overall I suppose you have to be happy to come away from your first league match with a win."

They can thank 4 unanswered points in the final 10 minutes from Keelan Rice, Jack Haughey (2) and corner-back Aidan McKernan for the victory – but in the first half it didn't look as if they would be dependant on late scores to collect the points.

Conal Brown had them ahead in the opening minute and goals from Dara Noonan (12th) and a superb individual effort from Jordan Fagan (20th) put them in command.  They even missed a penalty in that opening period.

However a goal from Tom McGrath in the 22nd minute seemed to halt the Newry train.

They still led by 2-2 to 1-2 at the break, but points from Daragh Kavannagh (3) and Sean Fox reeled the lead in for the teams to head into the final 10 minutes level, 2-3 to 1-6.

St Colman's though stepped on the gas again and Jack Haughey's insurance point from a free 2 minutes from time collected the league points ahead of a derby game with a difference – a first ever MacRory meeting with new boys St Paul's Bessbrook.

Bassbrook play their postponed game with Enniskillen on Tuesday, but but before that on Monday evening it is the turn of St Patrick's Academy v St Mary's Magherafelt at Stewartstown (6pm).

St Colman's : Dara Noonan 1-0, Jordan Fagan 1-0, Jack Haughey 0-3 frees, Keelin Rice 0-2, Conal Brown 0-1, Aidan McKernan 0-1.

Omagh CBS : Tom McGrath 1-1, Daragh Kavannagh 0-4, 0-2 frees, Sean Fox 0-1.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: RandyDupree on October 13, 2012, 08:37:10 PM
Who's managing each team this year? If anyone knows.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Jimmy on October 20, 2012, 11:38:45 PM
Update on Ulster colleges scene:

Rannafast 1/4 finals
Magherafelt v Abbey
Letterkenny v Inis Eoghain
Omagh v Armagh
Dungannon v Caven

Herald cup quarter finals
Rathmore v Ballyshannon
St Michaels Lurgan v Downpatrick or Crossmaglen
Keady v Bessbrook
Derry v St Malachys

Mageean Cup Final is St Mary's Belfast v An Dun

McNamee final is Maghera v St Mary's Belfast

Also MacRory has started with Bessbrook more than holding their own with wins over Enniskellin and Colman's.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: topgun on October 22, 2012, 09:06:59 PM
Does anyone have the results so far in the McCrory Cup opening rounds?

Anyone know when the last time Armagh had 2 teams in the competition?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Saffrongael on October 22, 2012, 09:33:51 PM
Mageean final is this Thursday night in Casement, not the usual Friday night slot.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: armaghniac on October 22, 2012, 09:45:30 PM
Quote
Anyone know when the last time Armagh had 2 teams in the competition?

Sure isn't Colman's in Armagh and they are supposed to always in it.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: topgun on October 22, 2012, 09:51:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 22, 2012, 09:45:30 PM
Quote
Anyone know when the last time Armagh had 2 teams in the competition?

Sure isn't Colman's in Armagh and they are supposed to always in it.

Colmans is regarded as a down feeder, majority of the players would be from down, point I was trying to get at, is when was last time Armagh had two schools playing at this level? Omagh and dungannon have supplied a lot of future Tyrone players over the years. It can only be good for Armagh football bessbrook in the A tier of colleges football.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on October 22, 2012, 10:48:02 PM
Quote from: topgun on October 22, 2012, 09:51:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 22, 2012, 09:45:30 PM
Quote
Anyone know when the last time Armagh had 2 teams in the competition?

Sure isn't Colman's in Armagh and they are supposed to always in it.

Colmans is regarded as a down feeder, majority of the players would be from down, point I was trying to get at, is when was last time Armagh had two schools playing at this level? Omagh and dungannon have supplied a lot of future Tyrone players over the years. It can only be good for Armagh football bessbrook in the A tier of colleges football.

Abbey CBS would traditionally have more Armagh players than St Colmans would have. The influence of a lot of good coaching in St Paul's is beginning to reap its rewards. John Rafferty has done a very good job there with Martin O Rourke.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: AFS on October 23, 2012, 07:20:52 PM
Quote from: topgun on October 22, 2012, 09:51:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 22, 2012, 09:45:30 PM
Quote
Anyone know when the last time Armagh had 2 teams in the competition?

Sure isn't Colman's in Armagh and they are supposed to always in it.

Colmans is regarded as a down feeder, majority of the players would be from down, point I was trying to get at, is when was last time Armagh had two schools playing at this level? Omagh and dungannon have supplied a lot of future Tyrone players over the years. It can only be good for Armagh football bessbrook in the A tier of colleges football.

All the way back in 2010, with St. Pat's and St. Michael's Lurgan.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Lecale2 on October 23, 2012, 09:36:52 PM
(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/541259_540318732661271_786391302_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: crossfire on October 23, 2012, 10:16:20 PM
Anyone know the Mc Rory cup fixtures for the coming weekend.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: outinfront on October 23, 2012, 10:44:23 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 23, 2012, 09:40:39 PM
An Dún?

A school v the current Ulster minor hurling champions?

Sounds fair.

An Dún are a collection of fellas who play hurling but whose schools (within Co Down) don't field senior Hurling Teams at that level of Ulster Colleges.  Well that's as far as I know.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on October 23, 2012, 11:17:41 PM
Quote from: topgun on October 22, 2012, 09:51:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 22, 2012, 09:45:30 PM
Quote
Anyone know when the last time Armagh had 2 teams in the competition?

Sure isn't Colman's in Armagh and they are supposed to always in it.

Colmans is regarded as a down feeder, majority of the players would be from down, point I was trying to get at, is when was last time Armagh had two schools playing at this level? Omagh and dungannon have supplied a lot of future Tyrone players over the years. It can only be good for Armagh football bessbrook in the A tier of colleges football.

That's debatable. In my day you chose the school that your elder brother or uncle went too.

Also, there was a view that the Abbey was more academic focused than Violet Hill.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 23, 2012, 11:25:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 23, 2012, 11:09:27 PM
Which Down teams do play Mageean?
Not sure if there are any. Were there not a few amalgamations this year - nearly sure East Tyrone was one.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 23, 2012, 11:57:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 23, 2012, 11:31:52 PM
So An Dún is anybody from Down who is still at school?

Fcukin hell!
Assume they are an assortment of players from St Columbas and St Pats Downpatrick etc. Who makes up Divis?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Minder on October 24, 2012, 02:22:49 AM
This may be their only rip at it this year as apparently the other schools, rightly so, aren't too amused with how fair it is.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: outinfront on October 24, 2012, 10:16:36 AM
St Pat's Knock have a senior hurling team so their lads can't play for Down, not sure about any other schools.  Think most other Down schools would play Casement Cup/Shield.

As far as I am aware beating Cross and Passion was still regarded as a shock result.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 24, 2012, 10:25:46 AM
Is it right in saying that these lads have been playing Senior colleges for An Dun and the Casement Cup etc for their own schools, hardly fair if its true.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: outinfront on October 24, 2012, 10:27:26 AM
I really don't know.  I know there are only 2 lads from Aquinas on the Down team and that's not the case.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnneycool on October 24, 2012, 10:34:49 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 23, 2012, 11:31:52 PM
So An Dún is anybody from Down who is still at school?

Fcukin hell!

Certainly St Columba's is one of those schools, and IIRC there's only 350 pupils all in and that's a mixed school so they'd struggle to put out a full team in any competition.

I'm glad these lads are getting meaningful hurling as it was never known to promote hurling too much even if it used to have the pick of the three Ards clubs and its principal lives within a stones throw of our pitch.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on October 25, 2012, 10:22:34 PM
St Mary's beat An Dun in the Mageean Final tonight. See the first goal here: http://tinyurl.com/cmjh79v (http://tinyurl.com/cmjh79v)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2012, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 24, 2012, 10:25:46 AM
Is it right in saying that these lads have been playing Senior colleges for An Dun and the Casement Cup etc for their own schools, hardly fair if its true.

I think it was the same for Divis, minus St Mary's.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Minder on October 25, 2012, 10:46:19 PM
It was a good, hard fought game played at a high standard.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on October 25, 2012, 10:53:02 PM
Here's the key moment... penalty to St Mary's, awarded by the All Ireland Final referee, but was it inside or outside? See for yourself here - http://tinyurl.com/d6abjz8 (http://tinyurl.com/d6abjz8)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on October 26, 2012, 01:16:23 PM
The offence occured right on the white line. Penalty.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnneycool on October 26, 2012, 01:43:25 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 26, 2012, 01:16:23 PM
The offence occured right on the white line. Penalty.

No it didn't, 21 yard free.

Yet another home town decision in Casement......  ;)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theskull1 on October 26, 2012, 04:19:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP8Z-mFM-qE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP8Z-mFM-qE)

11 or 12 steps allowed for the man who delivered the ball in for what I presume was St Marys third goal.

Hate that fecking 'easy easy easy' chant 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Minder on October 26, 2012, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 26, 2012, 04:19:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP8Z-mFM-qE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP8Z-mFM-qE)

11 or 12 steps allowed for the man who delivered the ball in for what I presume was St Marys third goal.

Hate that fecking 'easy easy easy' chant

It was like a soccer match the whole way through with the chanting.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on November 05, 2012, 08:04:39 PM
See a full video report from the 50th Mageean Cup Final, with goals, interviews and celebrations, plus praise for the An Dun amalgamation: http://tinyurl.com/c49tnez (http://tinyurl.com/c49tnez)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Lecale2 on November 05, 2012, 10:51:13 PM
Good stuff!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on November 09, 2012, 12:11:07 AM
See the goals from tonight's Casement Cup Final, Red High v Rathmore - http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/danske-bank-casement-cup-final-video/ (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/danske-bank-casement-cup-final-video/)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on November 17, 2012, 12:33:18 AM
Fabulous Rannafast Cup Final tonight... see the late drama here, with some great scores and an even better celebration... St Pats Cavan coming from 5 down to win by 6 against Omagh CBS,,, http://tinyurl.com/ctrc6j4 (http://tinyurl.com/ctrc6j4)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on November 29, 2012, 02:16:43 PM
The South Armagh lads win again in Ulster Colleges, this time beating St Paul's Bessbrook beat St Pat's Maghera in the McCormick Cup Final (League version of the MacRory Cup) - see video bits here: http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/final-whistle-video-danske-bank-mccormick-cup-final/ (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/final-whistle-video-danske-bank-mccormick-cup-final/)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: FermGael on November 30, 2012, 10:20:51 PM
St Michael's through to the quarter finals today.
Beat Magherafelt.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on December 07, 2012, 09:10:01 PM
Omagh CBS won the Danske Bank Corn na nOg Final tonight with victory over St Colman's at Emyvale. You can see Omagh's goal here, scored by captain Conor Loughran -
http://tinyurl.com/cfvt3kf (http://tinyurl.com/cfvt3kf)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Eamonnca1 on December 08, 2012, 01:23:30 AM
Any Craic, good work. I could use a bit of help here. What are the following competitions?

Danske Bank Corn na nOg Cup
McCormick Cup
Rannafast Cup
Casement Cup
Mageean Cup

Don't forget to say if they're hurling or football.  I want to add them to that wikipedia page I mentioned elsewhere, the list of GAA competitions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gaelic_Athletic_Association_competitions). In each case, who competes, when does it run, and who is the cup named after?  (Casement is obvious enough).

Thanks.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trileacman on December 08, 2012, 01:37:42 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on December 08, 2012, 01:23:30 AM
Any Craic, good work. I could use a bit of help here. What are the following competitions?

Danske Bank Corn na nOg Cup
McCormick Cup
Rannafast Cup
Casement Cup
Mageean Cup

Don't forget to say if they're hurling or football.  I want to add them to that wikipedia page I mentioned elsewhere, the list of GAA competitions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gaelic_Athletic_Association_competitions). In each case, who competes, when does it run, and who is the cup named after?  (Casement is obvious enough).

Thanks.
Open to correction but;

Corn na nOg - schools football 3rd year.
Ranafast - schools football 5th year.
McCormick - schools football 7th year. McCrory warm-up competition.

Is Mageean the hurling equivalent of the McCrory?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Eamonnca1 on December 08, 2012, 02:06:54 AM
When you say schools, is that secondary schools?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on December 15, 2012, 07:23:13 PM
Heard the Ulster Colleges GAA All Stars team were picked yesterday. Has anyone got the details?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 15, 2012, 07:30:57 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on December 15, 2012, 07:23:13 PM
Heard the Ulster Colleges GAA All Stars team were picked yesterday. Has anyone got the details?

St Pats Maghera got 3 footballers and 1 Hurler. Connor Carville (CHB), James Kearney (MF) and Stephen O'Hara (FF) in the football and Gerald Bradley in the Hurling.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on December 15, 2012, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 15, 2012, 07:30:57 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on December 15, 2012, 07:23:13 PM
Heard the Ulster Colleges GAA All Stars team were picked yesterday. Has anyone got the details?

St Pats Maghera got 3 footballers and 1 Hurler. Connor Carville (CHB), James Kearney (MF) and Stephen O'Hara (FF) in the football and Gerald Bradley in the Hurling.

Good stuff, thought they might have had up to 5 in football. Is the full team up anywhere?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 15, 2012, 07:47:53 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on December 15, 2012, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 15, 2012, 07:30:57 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on December 15, 2012, 07:23:13 PM
Heard the Ulster Colleges GAA All Stars team were picked yesterday. Has anyone got the details?

St Pats Maghera got 3 footballers and 1 Hurler. Connor Carville (CHB), James Kearney (MF) and Stephen O'Hara (FF) in the football and Gerald Bradley in the Hurling.

Good stuff, thought they might have had up to 5 in football. Is the full team up anywhere?

Haven't seen the 15 anywhere. Also heard Terence O'Brien from St Mary's Magherafelt got one. His 2nd. One team would never get 5. I'd be very surprised if even the great Colmans teams of a couple of years ago would have got that many.

I'd imagine Dungannon and Bessbrook got 2 or 3 each!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Brick on December 15, 2012, 07:50:55 PM
Well done to the maghera boys. Hopefully a sign of a long awaited macrory cup in 2013. Anyone know of the full list from gk to cf? Any surprise omissions or inclusions from the all star team?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on December 15, 2012, 07:59:40 PM
I don't understand why the awards aren't given out at the end of the competition. Surely more focus should be put on the knock out stages of the competition than on trials. I think this Maghera team will win the competition and 3 might look modest enough by the time 17th March comes around. I'd say St Pauls have Burns and O'Hanlon (only guessing) anyway, not sure about Dungannon but they should have a couple as well.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 15, 2012, 08:03:57 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on December 15, 2012, 07:59:40 PM
I don't understand why the awards aren't given out at the end of the competition. Surely more focus should be put on the knock out stages of the competition than on trials. I think this Maghera team will win the competition and 3 might look modest enough by the time 17th March comes around. I'd say St Pauls have Burns and O'Hanlon (only guessing) anyway, not sure about Dungannon but they should have a couple as well.

It's a bit of a farce of an awards system to be honest. Other than it can get lads on the Elite Athlete scholarship for University it's pretty pointless. Lots of magheras better players over the years have failed to get an award such as Tohill and Fergal Doherty.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Man Marker on December 15, 2012, 08:13:51 PM
These college all stars year after year are a joke. Trials to get one  ;D, no such thing as picking players who produce the goods in the big games, how fcuked up can you get a process.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Brick on December 15, 2012, 08:24:31 PM
I remember mark lynch not being able to be selected for all stars one year due to a (harsh) sending off with his club Banagher. If I remember correctly I don't think paddy Bradley received an all star either
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on December 15, 2012, 08:28:35 PM
Don't think Kieran McGeeney got one either.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on December 15, 2012, 10:32:25 PM
Ah now kounty!!! Dont be spouting yer partionist views on here.

In recent years derry have had a poor return. In the 90s however they were very much successful.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on December 15, 2012, 10:39:10 PM
Quote from: kounty on December 15, 2012, 10:19:11 PM
whos the ticklemister

Well known, popular, successful, respected and articulate poster.

Current poster of the year as voted by in the derry gaa board awards of the year  by fellow derry posters.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 15, 2012, 10:44:19 PM
He's the reason us SD Gaels have to travel to the white elephant.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on December 15, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
He sounds like quite a guy , a legend so to speak.

Walter I heard a rumour that celtic park is hosting all the nfl games, what ye think about that?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 15, 2012, 10:56:54 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on December 15, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
He sounds like quite a guy , a legend so to speak.

Walter I heard a rumour that celtic park is hosting all the nfl games, what ye think about that?

Don't get ahead of yourself ;)

Jeez and there was me thinking the new ground in Owenbeg was being used for some!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on December 15, 2012, 11:10:03 PM
Quote from: kounty on December 15, 2012, 10:02:49 PM
why do the derry schools get so  many
and who picks the teams

Tony Scullion, enough said.  If you are from Derry or are involved with his Ulster U.16 squad then you are guaranteed one.

Also
If you are from a lower level school not playing Macrory, if you are a dual player, if you are a big star on a wee team, if you won an All ireland for your county team last Summer, if you are going to Australia, if you get on your county senior or U.21 squad, if your Da is on the colleges committee, if you won an All Star the year before, if you are the son of a famous inter county star then you are also guaranteed one.

Not relevant
Playing well at these trials or more importantly, winning the Macrory Cup.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on December 15, 2012, 11:17:30 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on December 15, 2012, 11:10:03 PM
Quote from: kounty on December 15, 2012, 10:02:49 PM
why do the derry schools get so  many
and who picks the teams

Tony Scullion, enough said.  If you are from Derry or are involved with his Ulster U.16 squad then you are guaranteed one.

Also
If you are from a lower level school not playing Macrory, if you are a dual player, if you are a big star on a wee team, if you won an All ireland for your county team last Summer, if you are going to Australia, if you get on your county senior or U.21 squad, if your Da is on the colleges committee, if you won an All Star the year before, if you are the son of a famous inter county star then you are also guaranteed one.

Not relevant
Playing well at these trials or more importantly, winning the Macrory Cup.

Quote from: hardstation on December 15, 2012, 11:11:29 PM
Is that for football only?

Sorry, I should have added that the dual player is also at a distinct advantage as well.  Da being on the committee also helps here also.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on December 15, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
The trials are a farce.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on December 15, 2012, 11:31:49 PM
Yes, I know but the colleges love giving All stars to dual players.  It doesn't really matter if they can only play either hurling or football-as long as they turn up to trials and can swing a hurl or kick a ball, being able to do both means they can pick up two All stars and the colleges get great publicity from this.

Awarding of All stars is rarely about performance.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on December 17, 2012, 05:50:37 PM
McRory Quarter Finals

Dungannon v St McCartans
St Colmans v Omagh
Abbey v Bessbrook
Enniskillen v Maghera

Big derby game with St Pauls Bessbrook and Abbey is the pick of thegames.

Would expect Dungannon, Omagh, Bessbrook, & Maghera to win.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rodney trotter on December 17, 2012, 09:17:07 PM
What is the idea for having a trail for the All Stars? Not like they are being selected for a County panel. Obvious thing is to announce the All Stars at the end of the compeitition in March.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rodney trotter on December 17, 2012, 09:55:44 PM
Fair enough, St Pats Cavan have been playing B McGlarnon the last few years. Played in the Leinster A competition for a few years 04/06 as there isn't a age gap like the Northern Schools. Got a lot of heavy beating in MacRory level.

They are doing well in the McGlarnon this year and are in the quarter finals asaik. Might be in with a shout of a All Stars if they keep up the form.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on December 17, 2012, 10:20:27 PM
These All Star awards were given out today as far as I know. Has anyone got the full team?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: AFS on December 18, 2012, 12:17:14 AM
(http://www.abbeycbs.org/images/stories/allstarfootball%202012.jpg)

Aaron Beattie - Abbey
Jamie Cosgrove - St. Paul's

Fill in the rest.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on December 18, 2012, 01:11:58 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 15, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
The trials are a farce.
You are 100% correct
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trileacman on December 18, 2012, 02:30:35 AM
Quote from: AFS on December 18, 2012, 12:17:14 AM
(http://www.abbeycbs.org/images/stories/allstarfootball%202012.jpg)

Aaron Beattie - Abbey
Jamie Cosgrove - St. Paul's

Fill in the rest.

Who's dead? Wouldn't kill the f**kers to smile.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on December 18, 2012, 12:41:02 PM
St Pauls v Abbey CBS should be a great game. St. Pauls on group form will start as favourites but I believe the Abbey are better than they have shown so far as they have a couple of key players back to full fitness now and a few quality players who have moved to the Abbey from other schools this year are now pushing hard for starting places. St. Pats Maghera still look to be the team to beat with so many players from the impressive Watty's minor team among their ranks.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Throw ball on December 18, 2012, 06:07:24 PM
Quote from: kounty on December 18, 2012, 05:44:13 PM
did o hanlon from armagh not get one?

Definitely a load of rubbish if he didn't. Either that or Ulster GAA will be blessed with some great players very soon!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on December 19, 2012, 09:42:49 AM
Must not have been good enough!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 19, 2012, 11:09:14 AM
Quote from: elk on December 19, 2012, 09:42:49 AM
Must not have been good enough!

Trust me he is certainly good enough. He has been injured this past while. He missed the mc Cormick final and maybe a few group games. Perhaps that killeavy man 'Yellowcard' could clarify? ;)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on December 19, 2012, 12:26:07 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 19, 2012, 11:09:14 AM
Quote from: elk on December 19, 2012, 09:42:49 AM
Must not have been good enough!

Trust me he is certainly good enough. He has been injured this past while. He missed the mc Cormick final and maybe a few group games. Perhaps that killeavy man 'Yellowcard' could clarify? ;)

Now Walter please do NOT tar me with that brush, they are merely neighbours and rivals. I don't know what the situation was but yeah your right he was injured for the McCormack final so he possibly missed trials (though I'm not sure). I don't know much about the quality of the other 6 forwards on the All Star team but I'd be very surprised if O'hanlon isn't among the top 6 in Ulster considering he was asked onto the Armagh SENIOR panel both last year and this year. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Larry Duff on December 19, 2012, 01:25:11 PM
Quote from: AFS on December 18, 2012, 12:17:14 AM
(http://www.abbeycbs.org/images/stories/allstarfootball%202012.jpg)

Aaron Beattie - Abbey
Jamie Cosgrove - St. Paul's

Fill in the rest.

3. Shea Heffron - St Michaels Lurgan & Clann Eireann
9. Oisin Lenaghan - St Michaels Lurgan & St Mary's Aghagallon

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on December 19, 2012, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on Today at 11:09:14 AM

    Quote from: elk on Today at 09:42:49 AM

        Must not have been good enough!


    Trust me he is certainly good enough. He has been injured this past while. He missed the mc Cormick final and maybe a few group games. Perhaps that killeavy man 'Yellowcard' could clarify? ;)


Now Walter please do NOT tar me with that brush, they are merely neighbours and rivals. I don't know what the situation was but yeah your right he was injured for the McCormack final so he possibly missed trials (though I'm not sure). I don't know much about the quality of the other 6 forwards on the All Star team but I'd be very surprised if O'hanlon isn't among the top 6 in Ulster considering he was asked onto the Armagh SENIOR panel both last year and this year. 



Watched the St.Pauls / St. Colmans game on Destintation Newry and O'Hanlon was definitely not the outstanding forward player on the pitch. In fact had to check he was actually on the pitch - don't understand all the hype around this lad. Placing a lot of pressure on young shoulders.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Jimmy on December 19, 2012, 03:20:43 PM
Full list of all-stars as posted on the Ulster colleges Twitter

Football All-stars :
1 S Fox (Omagh),
2 J Cosgrove (Bessbrook),
3 S Heffron (Lurgan),
4 A Beattie (Abbey),
5 R Wells (Dpatrick)
6 C Carville (Maghera),
7 D McKeever (Aquinas),
8 J Kearney (Maghera),
9 O Lenahan (Lurgan),
10 T O'Brien (St Mary's M'felt - 2nd award)
11 R McGlone (Academy),
12 S McGonigle (Knock),
13 L Brennan (Enniskillen),
14 S O'Hara (Maghera),
15 F McMahon (St Macartan's)

All-star hurlers -
1 D Doran (D'patrick)
2 C Costello (Aquinas)
3 T O Ciarain (St mary's)
4 D Quinn (St Mary's)
5 D Nugent (La Salle)
6 R Devlin (Academy)
7 R McCambridge (CPC)
8 L McMullan (Knock)
9 C Egan ((Knock)
10 C Johnston (St Mary's)
11 C O'Neill (D'patrick)
12 E Kearns (St Killian's)
13 E Sands (D'patrick)
14 G Bradley (Maghera)
15 S McCaughan (CPC)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 19, 2012, 03:33:41 PM
How Conor Mallon is not on it is beyond me!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on December 19, 2012, 04:03:42 PM
Did St Colman's send anyone to the trials ? Hard to believe with their track record that they would have no-one capable of winning a football all-star.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on December 19, 2012, 05:03:07 PM
Quote from: elk on December 19, 2012, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on Today at 11:09:14 AM

    Quote from: elk on Today at 09:42:49 AM

        Must not have been good enough!


    Trust me he is certainly good enough. He has been injured this past while. He missed the mc Cormick final and maybe a few group games. Perhaps that killeavy man 'Yellowcard' could clarify? ;)


Now Walter please do NOT tar me with that brush, they are merely neighbours and rivals. I don't know what the situation was but yeah your right he was injured for the McCormack final so he possibly missed trials (though I'm not sure). I don't know much about the quality of the other 6 forwards on the All Star team but I'd be very surprised if O'hanlon isn't among the top 6 in Ulster considering he was asked onto the Armagh SENIOR panel both last year and this year. 



Watched the St.Pauls / St. Colmans game on Destintation Newry and O'Hanlon was definitely not the outstanding forward player on the pitch. In fact had to check he was actually on the pitch - don't understand all the hype around this lad. Placing a lot of pressure on young shoulders.

Watched that game as well and I don't remember him excelling that day, however I do think he is a very good player. The only other players I've heard rave reviews about are McGlone, O'Brien and O'Hara.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on December 19, 2012, 05:05:34 PM
Quote from: elk on December 19, 2012, 04:03:42 PM
Did St Colman's send anyone to the trials ? Hard to believe with their track record that they would have no-one capable of winning a football all-star.

Jack Haughey strikes me as a very good player.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on December 20, 2012, 08:51:43 AM
Seen O'Hara playing a couple of times this year, very impressive each time. Looks like a good prospect for Derry seniors in the near future.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: PAULD123 on December 20, 2012, 08:57:45 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on December 17, 2012, 05:50:37 PM
McRory Quarter Finals

Dungannon v St McCartans
St Colmans v Omagh
Abbey v Bessbrook
Enniskillen v Maghera

Big derby game with St Pauls Bessbrook and Abbey is the pick of thegames.

Would expect Dungannon, Omagh, Bessbrook, & Maghera to win.

Yellowcard, do you know anyway of finding out when and where the quarter finals will be played?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 20, 2012, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: elk on December 20, 2012, 08:51:43 AM
Seen O'Hara playing a couple of times this year, very impressive each time. Looks like a good prospect for Derry seniors in the near future.

Long way to go, trust me! Out of the 3 Kearney has most potential.

Quote from: PAULD123 on December 20, 2012, 08:57:45 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on December 17, 2012, 05:50:37 PM
McRory Quarter Finals

Dungannon v St McCartans
St Colmans v Omagh
Abbey v Bessbrook
Enniskillen v Maghera

Big derby game with St Pauls Bessbrook and Abbey is the pick of thegames.

Would expect Dungannon, Omagh, Bessbrook, & Maghera to win.

Yellowcard, do you know anyway of finding out when and where the quarter finals will be played?

That won't be announced until the new year at the earliest.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on December 20, 2012, 09:26:23 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 20, 2012, 09:00:50 AM
Quote from: elk on December 20, 2012, 08:51:43 AM
Seen O'Hara playing a couple of times this year, very impressive each time. Looks like a good prospect for Derry seniors in the near future.

Long way to go, trust me! Out of the 3 Kearney has most potential.

Quote from: PAULD123 on December 20, 2012, 08:57:45 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on December 17, 2012, 05:50:37 PM
McRory Quarter Finals

Dungannon v St McCartans
St Colmans v Omagh
Abbey v Bessbrook
Enniskillen v Maghera

Big derby game with St Pauls Bessbrook and Abbey is the pick of thegames.

Would expect Dungannon, Omagh, Bessbrook, & Maghera to win.

Yellowcard, do you know anyway of finding out when and where the quarter finals will be played?

That won't be announced until the new year at the earliest.



I agreed with Dungannon, Omagh and Maghera but I think the St.Pauls / Abbey will be a tight game which could go either way.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on December 21, 2012, 12:16:36 AM
Quote from: elk on December 19, 2012, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on Today at 11:09:14 AM

    Quote from: elk on Today at 09:42:49 AM

        Must not have been good enough!


    Trust me he is certainly good enough. He has been injured this past while. He missed the mc Cormick final and maybe a few group games. Perhaps that killeavy man 'Yellowcard' could clarify? ;)


Now Walter please do NOT tar me with that brush, they are merely neighbours and rivals. I don't know what the situation was but yeah your right he was injured for the McCormack final so he possibly missed trials (though I'm not sure). I don't know much about the quality of the other 6 forwards on the All Star team but I'd be very surprised if O'hanlon isn't among the top 6 in Ulster considering he was asked onto the Armagh SENIOR panel both last year and this year. 



Watched the St.Pauls / St. Colmans game on Destintation Newry and O'Hanlon was definitely not the outstanding forward player on the pitch. In fact had to check he was actually on the pitch - don't understand all the hype around this lad. Placing a lot of pressure on young shoulders.
He was injured that day
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on December 21, 2012, 02:34:07 PM
John Rafferty, Lorcan McMullan from Knock and Shea Heffron at St Michael's Lurgan - all did well at the All Stars and are on this video: http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/all-stars-highlights-video/ (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/all-stars-highlights-video/)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: onefaircounty on December 21, 2012, 05:44:17 PM
Quote from: elk on December 19, 2012, 02:44:41 PM



Watched the St.Pauls / St. Colmans game on Destintation Newry and O'Hanlon was definitely not the outstanding forward player on the pitch. In fact had to check he was actually on the pitch - don't understand all the hype around this lad. Placing a lot of pressure on young shoulders.

So you slam people for going with the hype but dismiss him on one showing?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: shawshank on December 22, 2012, 07:42:32 PM
Quote from: kounty on December 21, 2012, 04:24:54 PM
well o hanlon did only score 7pts against tyrone in minor game and armagh seniors want him so i suppose your right players who didnt even play county football this year deserved the award more.

On that note, O'Hanlon,  Conor Mallon St Pats Dungannon, CHB for Tyrone minors last year, Haughey St Colemans, forward for Down minors last season, Peter Cassidy St Pats maghera, MF Derry minors last year. None on that team. On saying that I know nothing about the trials i.e. who attended and who didn't, but this what I do know. Getting a college All Star for playing a trial game is akin to being class at soccer on PS3. Theres a big difference when its comes to playing when it actually matters!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on December 26, 2012, 10:17:57 PM
Seen him a few times really dont think he is that impressive
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rrhf on December 27, 2012, 10:26:31 AM
It's remarkable how opinions differ.  As they used to say one mans average talent is another mans relative.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on December 27, 2012, 02:08:33 PM
Quote from: elk on December 26, 2012, 10:17:57 PM
Seen him a few times really dont think he is that impressive

Your standards for judging a player must be very high but your entitled to your opinion. In terms of pure natural ability there are few, if any better at minor level I would say.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on December 28, 2012, 04:55:30 PM
You are right I am entitled to my own opinion and I am only judging the lad on his performances when I have seen him play. Perhaps I will see the player that some say he is in the Ulster final against Watty's. Hopefully the weather will be kind and with all the talent available to both teams we will witness a great final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 09, 2013, 12:17:36 AM
Great achievement by St Paul's Bessbrook tonight in beating the Abbey in front of 4000 in Newry to reach the MacRory Semis for the first time. See a John Rafferty interview and match action here:  http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/proud-night-for-st-pauls-video-interview-with-john-rafferty (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/proud-night-for-st-pauls-video-interview-with-john-rafferty)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on February 09, 2013, 06:18:23 PM
College play maghera in semi
St. Paul's and dungannon
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 09, 2013, 06:25:54 PM
Video - see the last 2 scores as St Pats Maghera beat champions St Michael's in today's Danske Bank MacRory Cup QFs http://tinyurl.com/ajujmjk (http://tinyurl.com/ajujmjk)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 16, 2013, 04:17:26 PM
 Video Penalty Drama in Danske Bank MacRory Cup. See St Macartans Monaghan snatch victory today - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bsuDsm2AV4&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bsuDsm2AV4&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on February 16, 2013, 10:04:32 PM
get yur money on St Pauls for the final!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Worker on February 18, 2013, 05:20:26 PM
Any word on venues for mc Laren semi finals?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Peter OToole on February 23, 2013, 05:35:34 AM
Quote from: elk on December 20, 2012, 08:51:43 AM
Seen O'Hara playing a couple of times this year, very impressive each time. Looks like a good prospect for Derry seniors in the near future.
You clearly didn't see the quarter final! He nearly cost maghera the game!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on February 23, 2013, 09:58:01 AM
Jesus. That's a very harsh comment to place on a public forum about an 18 year old amateur sportsman
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2013, 11:44:28 AM
Yep, should've saved it til he was 19.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rrhf on February 23, 2013, 12:16:55 PM
or at least until he turned professional... 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 23, 2013, 01:10:55 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on February 23, 2013, 09:58:01 AM
Jesus. That's a very harsh comment to place on a public forum about an 18 year old amateur sportsman

Peter has came out with a couple of very silly statements this morning. Going by the fact his posts were at around 5 am I'm guessing it's beer talk!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 24, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
For all the slating they get, and at times justifiably so BBC NI have got highlights from yesterday's Mac Rory semi final up. See link below.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/21559486?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

What's the story with Jerome Quinn and the Ulster Colleges? Maybe Any Craic can clarify?? Jerome had the highlights up in no time when he was over them. Now we have a very poor and late response from the official colleges site regarding highlights.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on February 24, 2013, 05:55:11 PM
Any craic is the man. Well done Jerome... Ahem sorry Mr. Craic.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on February 24, 2013, 06:58:10 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 24, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
For all the slating they get, and at times justifiably so BBC NI have got highlights from yesterday's Mac Rory semi final up. See link below.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/21559486?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

What's the story with Jerome Quinn and the Ulster Colleges? Maybe Any Craic can clarify?? Jerome had the highlights up in no time when he was over them. Now we have a very poor and late response from the official colleges site regarding highlights.

I think he may have been in Athlone at the Sigerson Cup, I suppose its hard to be everywhere.

Very hard competition to call at this stage. Any of Maghera, St Colmans or Bessbrook could win it but I'd fancy the winner may come from this weeks replay.

Think St Colmans might have their Hogan Cup winning midfielder Gough back for the replay so they might be slight favourites but its still hard to call. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 24, 2013, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on February 24, 2013, 06:58:10 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 24, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
For all the slating they get, and at times justifiably so BBC NI have got highlights from yesterday's Mac Rory semi final up. See link below.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/21559486?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

What's the story with Jerome Quinn and the Ulster Colleges? Maybe Any Craic can clarify?? Jerome had the highlights up in no time when he was over them. Now we have a very poor and late response from the official colleges site regarding highlights.

I think he may have been in Athlone at the Sigerson Cup, I suppose its hard to be everywhere.

Very hard competition to call at this stage. Any of Maghera, St Colmans or Bessbrook could win it but I'd fancy the winner may come from this weeks replay.

Think St Colmans might have their Hogan Cup winning midfielder Gough back for the replay so they might be slight favourites but its still hard to call. 

You could be right there regarding the Sigerson. I just thought ulster colleges might want exclusive rights to the highlights and they weren't uploading them as quick! I agree that any one of the last four could win it and I certainly wouldnt rule out the SEM. Any team that beats a very strong Dungannon side deserves respect!

Am I right in saying that midfielder is Conor Goughs younger brother?? Did he play in the Hogan winning side?? I though Haughey was the only remaining player from that team. Maghera will also have Connor Carville returning at centre back as he missed the game through illness. Tight game in store!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on February 24, 2013, 07:15:53 PM
Would Gough not be suspended, he got a straight red? If that's the case it's one month suspension. Carville was a big lost for St Pats, this was a game Maghera had won, 3 up with ten left on the clock, but Colemans showed the quality they have in their forward division to turn the game on its head to go 1 up on the full normal time, and also had it won, but for a super equaliser. If Maghera can get a couple of their forwards finding scoring form they will win it, but it will mean finding their scoring form. They are creating more scoring chances against all the teams they play, but convention rate not good enough yet.

A word on the ref Higgins, he did a good job, deserves a pat on the back as the only time refs get a mention is when a team looses, nobody lost :D ;D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on February 24, 2013, 07:44:40 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 24, 2013, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on February 24, 2013, 06:58:10 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 24, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
For all the slating they get, and at times justifiably so BBC NI have got highlights from yesterday's Mac Rory semi final up. See link below.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/21559486?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

What's the story with Jerome Quinn and the Ulster Colleges? Maybe Any Craic can clarify?? Jerome had the highlights up in no time when he was over them. Now we have a very poor and late response from the official colleges site regarding highlights.

I think he may have been in Athlone at the Sigerson Cup, I suppose its hard to be everywhere.

Very hard competition to call at this stage. Any of Maghera, St Colmans or Bessbrook could win it but I'd fancy the winner may come from this weeks replay.

Think St Colmans might have their Hogan Cup winning midfielder Gough back for the replay so they might be slight favourites but its still hard to call. 

You could be right there regarding the Sigerson. I just thought ulster colleges might want exclusive rights to the highlights and they weren't uploading them as quick! I agree that any one of the last four could win it and I certainly wouldnt rule out the SEM. Any team that beats a very strong Dungannon side deserves respect!

Am I right in saying that midfielder is Conor Goughs younger brother?? Did he play in the Hogan winning side?? I though Haughey was the only remaining player from that team. Maghera will also have Connor Carville returning at centre back as he missed the game through illness. Tight game in store!!

Yes he is indeed my bad, its Conall Gough, still a good player. Not sure on the suspension rules either I had just presumed he would get an automatic one match ban but maybe someone else could clarify. Carville returning would be a big boost for Maghera so its a finely balanced game. Seen St Colmans playing Bessbrook in the group stages and it didn't look like they were up to much at that stage but they must have improved a lot.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: muppet on February 24, 2013, 08:20:23 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on February 24, 2013, 05:55:11 PM
Any craic is the man. Well done Jerome... Ahem sorry Mr. Craic.

;D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JUst retired on February 24, 2013, 08:48:55 PM
Straight red is 1 months ban. If he was a juvenile player it is half of that.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 24, 2013, 09:00:35 PM
Highlights from Dunmoyle on Saturday are on the Ulster Colleges website here - http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/ (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/) and more will follow. There was indeed a small delay in relaying video from this game though these are extended highlights and there's a wee bit of experimenting going on, as is the norm these days in this new media world. As for BBC coverage, it's good to see them putting up action tho it's the least you should expect as they are doing the Final? They were not at any of the 4 Q-finals, citing cost-cutting, though I see they have Schools Cup Q-Final video on their site. Same old? On a more positive note, the Ulster Colleges site has video from all 4 MacRory QFs and by the way their camera was the only one at three of those games, so fair play to them for taking the initiative and providing coverage through their own channels. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: 45 on February 24, 2013, 09:22:17 PM
Don't judge a Colemans team on group stage games always a big mistake to make
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on February 24, 2013, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: 45 on February 24, 2013, 09:22:17 PM
Don't judge a Colemans team on group stage games always a big mistake to make

Would agree with that, I'd imagine they were just doing enough to ensure they got through the group.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 26, 2013, 12:37:58 PM
St Macartan's Monaghan v St Paul's Bessbrook Semi-final is 2moro in Armagh, here's a preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQzOs9CLMgU&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQzOs9CLMgU&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: DownFanatic on February 26, 2013, 12:43:12 PM
Potential cracker in store at Drumaness today at 2.30pm in the MacLarnon Semi Final. A big Down derby between St Patrick's, Downpatrick, and St Louis, Kilkeel.

It is interesting from my own club's point of view as we have players on both teams and there is a likelihood that our St Louis wing back will be marking our St Pat's wing forward (Paul McComiskey's younger brother).

It is probably a rarity in Colleges football for two players from the same club to be playing directly against each in competition.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 26, 2013, 05:18:01 PM
St Louis beat Red High in the Down derby. See the clinching goal, cracking finish at Pearse Kane - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9BocLT4Ljg
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: our_fella on February 27, 2013, 01:28:04 PM
Anyone know where the finals are being held this year?

Back to Casement? or in Armagh again??

Cheers
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: snoopdog on February 27, 2013, 01:58:18 PM
i would assume it would depend on the finalists.
would it not make sense if the final was between St colmans  and St Pauls to have the final in Newry. would mean a biger crowd as a lot of local interest.
Magher v any of the other 2 would prob mean casement Omagh or armagh.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 04:21:11 PM
Quote from: our_fella on February 27, 2013, 01:28:04 PM
Anyone know where the finals are being held this year?

Back to Casement? or in Armagh again??

Cheers

The finals are being held in Celtic Park as part of the UK City of Culture Celebrations.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: DuffleKing on February 27, 2013, 05:09:23 PM

Yer jokin
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 27, 2013, 05:12:12 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 27, 2013, 05:09:23 PM

Yer jokin

No more a joke than Maghera having to play a Rannafast final in Emyvale last year!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 05:19:12 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 27, 2013, 05:12:12 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 27, 2013, 05:09:23 PM

Yer jokin

No more a joke than Maghera having to play a Rannafast final in Emyvale last year!

Duffle are ye joking about it being held in Derry or as part of the UK thing????
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: AFS on February 27, 2013, 07:23:01 PM
St. Paul's V St. McCartan's on now.

http://www.armaghgaa.net/armaghtv/
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 07:37:46 PM
Quote from: AFS on February 27, 2013, 07:23:01 PM
St. Paul's V St. McCartan's on now.

http://www.armaghgaa.net/armaghtv/

Commentator...............

'This team from Bessbrook needs to stand up to theteam from the south!' lol

Shocking
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on February 27, 2013, 07:52:27 PM
The ref is favouring St Pauls
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 07:55:22 PM
hard hitting alright,st.pauls gonna win this easily. 15 minutes gone and monaghan have had only one shot on goal.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 27, 2013, 07:58:51 PM
St Paul's have to be big favourites for Mac Rory now! Looking good.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 07:59:03 PM
game over after 17mins

1-6 to 0-00
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on February 27, 2013, 08:00:00 PM
Is this St Pauls team really from county Armagh? Ah sure when they hit the drink next year those football skills will quickly disappear.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 08:01:32 PM
did anyone else think that was a clear penalty???
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 08:03:03 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 08:01:32 PM
did anyone else think that was a clear penalty???

penalty now and a goal!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on February 27, 2013, 08:07:30 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 07:37:46 PM
Quote from: AFS on February 27, 2013, 07:23:01 PM
St. Paul's V St. McCartan's on now.

http://www.armaghgaa.net/armaghtv/

Commentator...............

'This team from Bessbrook needs to stand up to theteam from the south!' lol

Shocking

The commentator you mention is widely recognised as an idiot around south Armagh and Newry.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Corkey22 on February 27, 2013, 08:08:20 PM
Twitter updates via @Ulster_Colleges . Good Job!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 08:09:27 PM
Quote from: ranch on February 27, 2013, 08:07:30 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 07:37:46 PM
Quote from: AFS on February 27, 2013, 07:23:01 PM
St. Paul's V St. McCartan's on now.

http://www.armaghgaa.net/armaghtv/

Commentator...............

'This team from Bessbrook needs to stand up to theteam from the south!' lol

Shocking

The commentator you mention is widely recognised as an idiot around south Armagh and Newry.

And now on the GAA Board
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 27, 2013, 08:09:55 PM
Rafferty and the SEM coach arguing. Typical Rafferty!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 08:15:41 PM
A great game lads; if you have not watched tune in for the second game.

HT

Bressbrook 1-07 v 1-03 Monaghan.

As hard a hitting college match you will ever see. Monaghan have hit the last 1-03 and hit the post.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on February 27, 2013, 08:36:34 PM
Some very good scores. Hopefully someone can list the players and their clubs.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on February 27, 2013, 08:39:47 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 27, 2013, 08:09:55 PM
Rafferty and the SEM coach arguing. Typical Rafferty!!

Maybe the SEM coach was at fault?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 27, 2013, 08:41:49 PM
Any south Armagh men care to name the team and their clubs. Killeavy supply 3 or 4 I would imagine?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 27, 2013, 08:42:11 PM
Who do St. Paul's play next?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on February 27, 2013, 08:51:43 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 27, 2013, 08:42:11 PM
Who do St. Paul's play next?

St Colmans (the uncrowned McCrory Cup 2013 champions) drew with St Pats Maghera last week. The winners play St Pauls (probably)

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 27, 2013, 08:55:36 PM
Will Boyle be a big loss in the final??
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on February 27, 2013, 09:01:15 PM
Anybody said a few months ago that O'Hanlon was overrated, I hope they've watched St. Paul's last two games in this competition.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 27, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
Who said that?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 09:41:29 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 27, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
Who said that?

Ranch is correct; someone said that on here a while back.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 27, 2013, 09:53:40 PM
See the second goal by Caolan McCullough for St Paul's Bessbrook in their 2013 Danske Bank MacRory Cup Semi-final tonight in Armagh, some team, some achievement - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKYQak4X4W8&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKYQak4X4W8&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: our_fella on February 27, 2013, 10:02:55 PM
Cant exactly name player per club, but heres a close enough stab at the clubs involved

Carrickcruppen
Shanes
Silverbridge
Cullyhanna
Forkhill
Dromintee
Culloville
Killeavy
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Worker on February 27, 2013, 10:29:43 PM
Is the mc Laren final in Derry also?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on February 27, 2013, 10:31:57 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 27, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
Who said that?

Can't remember.

Although I'm from a different club I've seen a lot of him over the years and he's an outstanding player. I've yet to see a better talent at that age. Hard to believe his club manager didn't start him in the Ulster club quarter final v Cookstown a few months back.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on February 27, 2013, 10:32:57 PM
Quote from: The Worker on February 27, 2013, 10:29:43 PM
Is the mc Laren final in Derry also?

Finals will most likely be in Armagh on the 18th.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: DrominteePRO on February 27, 2013, 10:33:17 PM
Clubs off top of my head

Cosgrove, Mallon, O'Hanlon - Killeavy
McCabe - Shane O'Neills
Eoghan Burns, Finnan Burns - Silverbridge
McKay and Campbell - Dromintee
C Nugent - Cullyhanna
McDonnell - Forkhill
D Nugent - Culloville
Malone, McCullough - Carrickcruppen

Can't remember the rest at moment, sorry.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on February 27, 2013, 10:39:18 PM

Cosgrove, Mallon, O'Hanlon - Killeavy
McCabe  Mackin- Shane O'Neills
Eoghan Burns, Finnan Burns - Silverbridge
McKay and Campbell - Dromintee
C Nugent - Cullyhanna
McDonnell  Toner  Forkhill
D Nugent - Culloville
Malone, McCullough Boyle- Carrickcruppen

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on February 27, 2013, 10:46:58 PM
Quote from: ranch on February 27, 2013, 10:32:57 PM
Quote from: The Worker on February 27, 2013, 10:29:43 PM
Is the mc Laren final in Derry also?

Finals will most likely be in Armagh on the 18th.

The McLaren might well be,but the McLarnon is in Londonderry, ahem I mean Legenderry ahem, I might Derry/Londonderry............. ahem Derry I mean; as a double header for the UK City of Culture Celebrations.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2013, 11:42:57 PM
It's like Kilkeel all over again.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 27, 2013, 11:48:24 PM
Here's the second goal, even better than the first, by Conor Nugent, classy wee turn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=102xYLUhuc0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=102xYLUhuc0)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on February 27, 2013, 11:50:37 PM
McLarnon and Macrory finals scheduled for Athletic Grounds on 18 March starting at 1.15
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 12:00:47 AM

Makes sense.

Odd plating them both at the same time though. Space will be at a premium
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on February 28, 2013, 12:31:39 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 27, 2013, 11:42:57 PM
It's like Kilkeel all over again.

St. Louis had been competing at college B level for quite a while had they not though?

St. Paul's were competing in Vocational Schools as recently as 07/08. Indeed that was the first year St. Paul's even entered an u18 side into the Markey Cup as our year group was the first to have enough lads stay on at the school.
Unfortunately we lost out on that occasion to St. Malachy's Castlewellan in the semi final, 3-12 to 3-09. Castlewellan then went on to clinch the u18 All Ireland with relative ease if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on February 28, 2013, 07:54:14 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on February 27, 2013, 11:50:37 PM
McLarnon and Macrory finals scheduled for Athletic Grounds on 18 March starting at 1.15

Joking aside Dougal; is that true?

It was put down for Celtic Park this year. They must have lost it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on February 28, 2013, 08:06:32 AM
I read it last night on the St Paul's Facebook site
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 28, 2013, 09:20:15 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on February 28, 2013, 07:54:14 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on February 27, 2013, 11:50:37 PM
McLarnon and Macrory finals scheduled for Athletic Grounds on 18 March starting at 1.15

Joking aside Dougal; is that true?

It was put down for Celtic Park this year. They must have lost it.

Yeah I remember reading in a Derry report that it was to be in Celtic Park. With the GAA congress and AI Feile being held in the county I think it would be a great idea to have the Colleges finals there. In saying that if it is Colmans/St Pauls it makes sense to have it in the Athletic grounds. Thats some going from Bessbrook to come from Vocational to Colleges in a few short years. Is this just a special group (like Kilkeel) or is the tide turning in south Armagh where lads who previously went to Colmans/Abbey are now heading to St Pauls??
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 28, 2013, 09:52:21 AM
The game last night was a seriously high standard. See these scores from the first-half - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlvyG9RE_qY&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlvyG9RE_qY&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
What has changed is that in the last number of years incoming principal Oliver Mooney (Cullaville) put sport and football in particular at the level of focus that it should be for a school of that size and demographic.

Inexplicably, until recent developments with staff and coaching priorities football was largely ignored. You can imagine the sort of playing resources that would always have been available to a school which the overwhelming majority of males in s armagh would have attended. That the only school teams taken semi seriously for decades were soccer teams was such a waste. There is an extensive list of future armagh greats who went thru st pauls but many woukdnt even have seen a GAA jersey in their time.

Now they have started to harness that talent they will have the same potential as a school like maghera on an ongoing basis.

Traditionally any decent s armagh footballer who could get in would have travelled to colmans or abbey but if st pauls are starting to be seen on a footballing par with those schools that may begin to change
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 28, 2013, 10:05:51 AM
How many attend the school? Always like to see co-ed schools doing well. The all boys schools have a major advantage! Colmans and Abbey wont like these 'noisy neighbours'... If only Maghera had the coaching resources available to St Pauls  :-\
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 10:19:48 AM

Rafferty and O'Rourke seem to have done a hell of a job and not just at MacRory level if stories are to be believed. Also last night there seemed to be any numbet of other fellas around the team at different stages - other teachers I presume
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Feckitt on February 28, 2013, 11:27:20 AM
Does anyone know if St Josephs secondary in Newry play Gaelic Football, are are they all wasted to soccer like St Paul's teams of the past?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: 5 Sams on February 28, 2013, 11:40:57 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 10:19:48 AM

Rafferty and O'Rourke seem to have done a hell of a job and not just at MacRory level if stories are to be believed. Also last night there seemed to be any numbet of other fellas around the team at different stages - other teachers I presume

You'd imagine Jarlath would some sort of influence on football matters in the school as well. It would be crazy not to have him involved at some level.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ziggy90 on February 28, 2013, 11:49:28 AM
I watched some of that game last night (very one sided first half), what was the final score? I also didn't realise these games were so well attended, 2000 plus?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: snoopdog on February 28, 2013, 11:54:18 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
What has changed is that in the last number of years incoming principal Oliver Mooney (Cullaville) put sport and football in particular at the level of focus that it should be for a school of that size and demographic.

Inexplicably, until recent developments with staff and coaching priorities football was largely ignored. You can imagine the sort of playing resources that would always have been available to a school which the overwhelming majority of males in s armagh would have attended. That the only school teams taken semi seriously for decades were soccer teams was such a waste. There is an extensive list of future armagh greats who went thru st pauls but many woukdnt even have seen a GAA jersey in their time.

Now they have started to harness that talent they will have the same potential as a school like maghera on an ongoing basis.

Traditionally any decent s armagh footballer who could get in would have travelled to colmans or abbey but if st pauls are starting to be seen on a footballing par with those schools that may begin to change

I would assume the 11 plus or whatever replaces it would be the reason why pupils go to one rather than the other. St Pauls isnt a grammer unlike St Colmans and the Abbey. I doubt parents would send their child to  st Pauls over the other 2 for footballing reasons if they get the 11 plus. After all st colmans are by far the most successfuly college in footballing terms in Ulster.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Bearly on loose on February 28, 2013, 12:02:35 PM
I would assume the 11 plus or whatever replaces it would be the reason why pupils go to one rather than the other. St Pauls isnt a grammer unlike St Colmans and the Abbey. I doubt parents would send their child to  st Pauls over the other 2 for footballing reasons if they get the 11 plus. After all st colmans are by far the most successfuly college in footballing terms in Ulster.


If not the most successful at teaching their pupils spelling and grammar it seems!!  ;)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on February 28, 2013, 12:10:24 PM
Was very impressed with St Pauls last night, they have been the most impressive team all season and show no signs of letting up. The only game they have even looked like losing all season was the McCormack cup final to Maghera which they won with a last minute goal. If they play St Colmans in the final they will have no fear of them after comprehensively beating them in the group stages. Individually I also believe they have superior players to St Colmans. Maghera could well be the only stumbling block. I believe that Maghera are the team they fear most and they were arguably the better team in the McCormack final even though they lost.

Should the final be against St Colmans then surely Newry would be the venue since the 2 schools are about a mile apart and I would see no point in taking them to Armagh.

I think St Pauls will be playing McRory football a lot longer than Kilkeel, they may even surpass St Colmans and Abbey long term. They have the catchment area of about half of South Armagh and I'd say any budding footballers from the region that may have previously went to the Abbey or St Colmans may well consider St Pauls since they have put a huge focus on gaelic football in the last few years. That said, this is a group of very good footballers and they will not be as strong every year. Rafferty has them playing fairly defensive football and they are very hard to break down but they do break out at speed with a lot of runners from midfield as well. 

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 12:17:47 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on February 28, 2013, 11:54:18 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
What has changed is that in the last number of years incoming principal Oliver Mooney (Cullaville) put sport and football in particular at the level of focus that it should be for a school of that size and demographic.

Inexplicably, until recent developments with staff and coaching priorities football was largely ignored. You can imagine the sort of playing resources that would always have been available to a school which the overwhelming majority of males in s armagh would have attended. That the only school teams taken semi seriously for decades were soccer teams was such a waste. There is an extensive list of future armagh greats who went thru st pauls but many woukdnt even have seen a GAA jersey in their time.

Now they have started to harness that talent they will have the same potential as a school like maghera on an ongoing basis.

Traditionally any decent s armagh footballer who could get in would have travelled to colmans or abbey but if st pauls are starting to be seen on a footballing par with those schools that may begin to change

I would assume the 11 plus or whatever replaces it would be the reason why pupils go to one rather than the other. St Pauls isnt a grammer unlike St Colmans and the Abbey. I doubt parents would send their child to  st Pauls over the other 2 for footballing reasons if they get the 11 plus. After all st colmans are by far the most successfuly college in footballing terms in Ulster.

You don't really get the football dynamic in s armagh if you believe that because many post primary school decisions are more than a little coloured by the perceived football development capacity of the school. It is not very difficult to get into St Colman's academically.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: snoopdog on February 28, 2013, 01:58:28 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 12:17:47 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on February 28, 2013, 11:54:18 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
What has changed is that in the last number of years incoming principal Oliver Mooney (Cullaville) put sport and football in particular at the level of focus that it should be for a school of that size and demographic.

Inexplicably, until recent developments with staff and coaching priorities football was largely ignored. You can imagine the sort of playing resources that would always have been available to a school which the overwhelming majority of males in s armagh would have attended. That the only school teams taken semi seriously for decades were soccer teams was such a waste. There is an extensive list of future armagh greats who went thru st pauls but many woukdnt even have seen a GAA jersey in their time.

Now they have started to harness that talent they will have the same potential as a school like maghera on an ongoing basis.

Traditionally any decent s armagh footballer who could get in would have travelled to colmans or abbey but if st pauls are starting to be seen on a footballing par with those schools that may begin to change

I would assume the 11 plus or whatever replaces it would be the reason why pupils go to one rather than the other. St Pauls isnt a grammer unlike St Colmans and the Abbey. I doubt parents would send their child to  st Pauls over the other 2 for footballing reasons if they get the 11 plus. After all st colmans are by far the most successfuly college in footballing terms in Ulster.

You don't really get the football dynamic in s armagh if you believe that because many post primary school decisions are more than a little coloured by the perceived football development capacity of the school. It is not very difficult to get into St Colman's academically.

Your right its not if you get your 11 plus or whatever the equivalent is now, and a lot of kids fail this who would be more than capable for any grammer school.
I think parents would make the academic decision for their kids if it would be better for them academically to go to the Abbey or St Colmans.  you would have to seriously question a parent who would put an amateur sport ahead of their childs future.  Crossmaglen as we all know is a great Gaelic football area how do St Josephs Crossmaglen get on at the level they partake in??
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on February 28, 2013, 04:46:29 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on February 28, 2013, 01:58:28 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 12:17:47 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on February 28, 2013, 11:54:18 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
What has changed is that in the last number of years incoming principal Oliver Mooney (Cullaville) put sport and football in particular at the level of focus that it should be for a school of that size and demographic.

Inexplicably, until recent developments with staff and coaching priorities football was largely ignored. You can imagine the sort of playing resources that would always have been available to a school which the overwhelming majority of males in s armagh would have attended. That the only school teams taken semi seriously for decades were soccer teams was such a waste. There is an extensive list of future armagh greats who went thru st pauls but many woukdnt even have seen a GAA jersey in their time.

Now they have started to harness that talent they will have the same potential as a school like maghera on an ongoing basis.

Traditionally any decent s armagh footballer who could get in would have travelled to colmans or abbey but if st pauls are starting to be seen on a footballing par with those schools that may begin to change

I would assume the 11 plus or whatever replaces it would be the reason why pupils go to one rather than the other. St Pauls isnt a grammer unlike St Colmans and the Abbey. I doubt parents would send their child to  st Pauls over the other 2 for footballing reasons if they get the 11 plus. After all st colmans are by far the most successfuly college in footballing terms in Ulster.

You don't really get the football dynamic in s armagh if you believe that because many post primary school decisions are more than a little coloured by the perceived football development capacity of the school. It is not very difficult to get into St Colman's academically.

Your right its not if you get your 11 plus or whatever the equivalent is now, and a lot of kids fail this who would be more than capable for any grammer school.
I think parents would make the academic decision for their kids if it would be better for them academically to go to the Abbey or St Colmans.  you would have to seriously question a parent who would put an amateur sport ahead of their childs future.  Crossmaglen as we all know is a great Gaelic football area how do St Josephs Crossmaglen get on at the level they partake in??

St. Paul's has a great academic record, especially for a non selective school.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: snoopdog on February 28, 2013, 05:17:54 PM
Quote from: ranch on February 28, 2013, 04:46:29 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on February 28, 2013, 01:58:28 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 12:17:47 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on February 28, 2013, 11:54:18 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 28, 2013, 09:53:50 AM
What has changed is that in the last number of years incoming principal Oliver Mooney (Cullaville) put sport and football in particular at the level of focus that it should be for a school of that size and demographic.

Inexplicably, until recent developments with staff and coaching priorities football was largely ignored. You can imagine the sort of playing resources that would always have been available to a school which the overwhelming majority of males in s armagh would have attended. That the only school teams taken semi seriously for decades were soccer teams was such a waste. There is an extensive list of future armagh greats who went thru st pauls but many woukdnt even have seen a GAA jersey in their time.

Now they have started to harness that talent they will have the same potential as a school like maghera on an ongoing basis.

Traditionally any decent s armagh footballer who could get in would have travelled to colmans or abbey but if st pauls are starting to be seen on a footballing par with those schools that may begin to change

I would assume the 11 plus or whatever replaces it would be the reason why pupils go to one rather than the other. St Pauls isnt a grammer unlike St Colmans and the Abbey. I doubt parents would send their child to  st Pauls over the other 2 for footballing reasons if they get the 11 plus. After all st colmans are by far the most successfuly college in footballing terms in Ulster.

You don't really get the football dynamic in s armagh if you believe that because many post primary school decisions are more than a little coloured by the perceived football development capacity of the school. It is not very difficult to get into St Colman's academically.

Your right its not if you get your 11 plus or whatever the equivalent is now, and a lot of kids fail this who would be more than capable for any grammer school.
I think parents would make the academic decision for their kids if it would be better for them academically to go to the Abbey or St Colmans.  you would have to seriously question a parent who would put an amateur sport ahead of their childs future.  Crossmaglen as we all know is a great Gaelic football area how do St Josephs Crossmaglen get on at the level they partake in??

St. Paul's has a great academic record, especially for a non selective school.

Ok. not aware of the whole school tables as i dont live in the north anymore.
Best of luck to them in the Final i will be shouting for them if they play Maghera.
Will be some boasting rights for them if they can beat the college in the final and by all accounts they have a team that are more than capable of doing it.  hopefully though number 20 will be winging its way down the Violet Hill avenue come 17th March. Maghera and Bessbrook will have a lot to say about that though.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on February 28, 2013, 05:51:28 PM
What time is the match on tonight?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Feckitt on February 28, 2013, 06:01:36 PM
What match?  St Colmans v Maghera is on Saturday
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on March 02, 2013, 02:07:56 PM
Match is live on destination newry at 2.30pm though the link seems to be down at the minute?

http://destinationnewry.com/videos/macrory-cup-semifinal-replay-st-colmans-v-st-patricks-maghera/
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: snoopdog on March 02, 2013, 02:14:26 PM
think its a 2pm throw in
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: snoopdog on March 02, 2013, 02:37:17 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on March 02, 2013, 02:14:26 PM
think its a 2pm throw in

maghera lead 1.05 to 0.06 at HT
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: snoopdog on March 02, 2013, 03:23:33 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on March 02, 2013, 02:37:17 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on March 02, 2013, 02:14:26 PM
think its a 2pm throw in

maghera lead 1.05 to 0.06 at HT
maghera win by 2. st colmans blasted a pen over the bar. better team won though
Title: Scéal
Post by: drici on March 02, 2013, 03:33:30 PM
(http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab56/declanrice/414_zps190f832b.jpg?t=1362238271)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on March 02, 2013, 04:05:15 PM
I think Maghera deserved to win that game though if St Colmans had scored the penalty, who knows the result may have been different. There can be no argument that the 2 best teams are now in the final of the competition. A repeat of the McCormack cup final that Bessbrook won with an injury time goal to win by a point. Tradition will come down on the side of Maghera and a lot of their players will be used to being involved in colleges finals and this particular group have won most, if not all competitions at this age group I think. Can St Pauls play the game rather than the occasion since its a whole new experience for the school?

I do know that Bessbrook would much rather have played St Colmans in the final if given a choice. On the other hand they will have the advantage of playing the final in the Athletic Grounds since all their players are Armagh based.



Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 02, 2013, 05:48:43 PM
Not so sure about that. I think they'll be happy not playing St Colman's. I also think that with a lot of the team having been part of last years All Ireland winning team they should not let the occasion get to them. Someone suggested to me that the McCormack Cup defeat was the first time that group of lads had lost a final from they started at the school
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on March 02, 2013, 06:08:12 PM
There are video clips here from the replay, including the Maghera goal and some great late points  http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/  (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on March 02, 2013, 06:57:39 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 02, 2013, 05:48:43 PM
Not so sure about that. I think they'll be happy not playing St Colman's. I also think that with a lot of the team having been part of last years All Ireland winning team they should not let the occasion get to them. Someone suggested to me that the McCormack Cup defeat was the first time that group of lads had lost a final from they started at the school

Only going on what I was told a month ago. Watched them comprehensively beat St Colmans in the group stages and I believe they simply have better players than St Colmans. You could be right about those lads winning the All Ireland last year but that was in the secondary competition. I hope Bessbrook can win it but its too hard to call. Before the quarter finals I wondered if St Pauls had put too much into the early stages of the competition but having watched them the last twice they have been just as impressive.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 02, 2013, 07:07:55 PM
It would have a travesty if St Pats had not won that game today. Much better team, IMO 7-8 pts a better team. their FF won every ball but kicked seriously poor wides, when better options were available. Maghera are improving all the time, Glens ulster minor campaign has held their preparations back, but they are coming to the boil. St Paul's are playing well, but the team they played in the semi were so poor, how on earth did they beat Dungannon. tough to call but we are in for a good game.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Carnview on March 03, 2013, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 02, 2013, 05:48:43 PM
Not so sure about that. I think they'll be happy not playing St Colman's. I also think that with a lot of the team having been part of last years All Ireland winning team they should not let the occasion get to them. Someone suggested to me that the McCormack Cup defeat was the first time that group of lads had lost a final from they started at the school
St Paul's won the McCormick Cup beating Maghera with a last minute goal.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 03:01:59 PM
Quote from: Carnview on March 03, 2013, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 02, 2013, 05:48:43 PM
Not so sure about that. I think they'll be happy not playing St Colman's. I also think that with a lot of the team having been part of last years All Ireland winning team they should not let the occasion get to them. Someone suggested to me that the McCormack Cup defeat was the first time that group of lads had lost a final from they started at the school
St Paul's won the McCormick Cup beating Maghera with a last minute goal.

Think he is referring to Maghera here Carnview. It's true that this year group has never lost a final all the way through. I wouldn't call the Mac Cormick a proper competition though!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Carnview on March 03, 2013, 03:38:50 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 03:01:59 PM
Quote from: Carnview on March 03, 2013, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 02, 2013, 05:48:43 PM
Not so sure about that. I think they'll be happy not playing St Colman's. I also think that with a lot of the team having been part of last years All Ireland winning team they should not let the occasion get to them. Someone suggested to me that the McCormack Cup defeat was the first time that group of lads had lost a final from they started at the school
St Paul's won the McCormick Cup beating Maghera with a last minute goal.

Think he is referring to Maghera here Carnview. It's true that this year group has never lost a final all the way through. I wouldn't call the Mac Cormick a proper competition though!
Well hopefully their involvement in last year's MacRory defeat to St Michaels will spur them on this year!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 03, 2013, 05:06:02 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 03:01:59 PM
Quote from: Carnview on March 03, 2013, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 02, 2013, 05:48:43 PM
Not so sure about that. I think they'll be happy not playing St Colman's. I also think that with a lot of the team having been part of last years All Ireland winning team they should not let the occasion get to them. Someone suggested to me that the McCormack Cup defeat was the first time that group of lads had lost a final from they started at the school
St Paul's won the McCormick Cup beating Maghera with a last minute goal.

Think he is referring to Maghera here Carnview. It's true that this year group has never lost a final all the way through. I wouldn't call the Mac Cormick a proper competition though!

I think St. Paul's probably put more emphasis on it once they reached the final than Maghera did. It gives you a nice bit of momentum before the MacRory quarter finals but in the grand scheme of things it matters little. That said, it's nice to be able to look back and say you won it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 03, 2013, 06:43:40 PM
Not so sure about that. The fact that they chose to play the Glen lads would suggest they were going for it
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 03, 2013, 07:15:02 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 03, 2013, 06:43:40 PM
Not so sure about that. The fact that they chose to play the Glen lads would suggest they were going for it

They didn't choose to play them, they were ordered to.  Apparently Maghera were told on the day of the Mc Cormick final that if they didn't play their full team against Bessbrook that they would be thrown out of the MacRory and Glen Maghera would not be permitted to play in the St Pauls tournament.  They didn't intend playing the Glen boys but had to put a strong team out under pressure from Ulster Colleges and Danske Bank.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 03, 2013, 07:57:58 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 03, 2013, 07:15:02 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 03, 2013, 06:43:40 PM
Not so sure about that. The fact that they chose to play the Glen lads would suggest they were going for it

They didn't choose to play them, they were ordered to.  Apparently Maghera were told on the day of the Mc Cormick final that if they didn't play their full team against Bessbrook that they would be thrown out of the MacRory and Glen Maghera would not be permitted to play in the St Pauls tournament.  They didn't intend playing the Glen boys but had to put a strong team out under pressure from Ulster Colleges and Danske Bank.

Nearly correct, st pats weren't for playing the glen lads as gromley had told them they weren't playing, but the ulster council steeped in and told glen that they would be kicked out of the minor tourney if the glen players didn't play for Maghera. St pats then had to play them even thou they had named a completely different team at school training, they had to pull everyone in at 2pm and change the team, well,u could imagine he that went down. The glen lads had to leave the school to go and get there gear. Some prep for that game.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 03, 2013, 08:08:37 PM
Thanks Rawhide for clarification.  I hear that Maghera were run close yesterday and the same last week.  They have been a standout team the whole way through the MacRory and in previous years as well.  Hope they do well against the 'non selective' opposition that we keep hearing about - change the record please!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brogin41 on March 03, 2013, 08:38:20 PM
Who are the Ulster Colleges playin in the semi finals!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 08:41:27 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 03, 2013, 08:08:37 PM
Thanks Rawhide for clarification.  I hear that Maghera were run close yesterday and the same last week.  They have been a standout team the whole way through the MacRory and in previous years as well.  Hope they do well against the 'non selective' opposition that we keep hearing about - change the record please!

St Pats are also non selective but you know what your saying. Between Rafferty and Burns you would think Grammar schools were the devil!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 03, 2013, 08:54:00 PM
Quote from: brogin41 on March 03, 2013, 08:38:20 PM
Who are the Ulster Colleges playin in the semi finals!

??????  What?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brogin41 on March 03, 2013, 09:09:11 PM
What do you mean What??.  Munster Colleges final played yesterday PCD v Sem St. Brendans,. and one of them won then again what do ye care, ye have a year on  us its u19 and a half up north????
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 03, 2013, 09:16:38 PM
Its actually U. 18 1/2

You mean who do the winners of Ulster play in the Hogan semi final?  No idea.

If Edenderry have many back from last year it wont make any difference as they will walk it again anyway (less of the swearing in the captains speech would be better as well). lol
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 11:22:06 PM
Perhaps he would be best not talking about it then. In doing so he is making the issue public!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 03, 2013, 11:37:15 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 11:22:06 PM
Perhaps he would be best not talking about it then. In doing so he is making the issue public!

I'm surprised it offends people to be honest.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 03, 2013, 11:47:36 PM
St. Pats Maghera are, I believe, a non selective school but I have never heard them mention this or shove it down peoples throats like Bessbrook do.

Maghera have always been proud ambassadors for colleges football and have had a major contribution to Minor and Senior successes in Derry never mind what they have achieved as a top class college.

Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 11:22:06 PM
Perhaps he would be best not talking about it then. In doing so he is making the issue public!

Some of the tweets from St Pauls or connections with them really make this a public issue!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 04, 2013, 12:35:35 AM
Why would any school use selection as a means of motivation?  That is just clean mad! 

Whats coming across in the interviews after the games is that St Pauls are attempting to display a siege mentality – that everybody is against them !  Now they are up against a school with a similar admissions policy as themselves.  What are they going to use as motivation now?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 04, 2013, 07:17:08 AM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 04, 2013, 12:35:35 AM
Why would any school use selection as a means of motivation?  That is just clean mad! 

Whats coming across in the interviews after the games is that St Pauls are attempting to display a siege mentality – that everybody is against them !  Now they are up against a school with a similar admissions policy as themselves.  What are they going to use as motivation now?


On the money there. This whole non selective nonsense was a tactical ploy by Rafferty!! I'm not fooled by his 'cute hoorism'...
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on March 04, 2013, 05:47:22 PM
Kildress man Colm Loughran kicked a long-range winner for St Joseph's Donaghmore in today's Danske Bank Nolan Cup Final. See it here http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/  (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orchardman on March 04, 2013, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 04, 2013, 12:35:35 AM
Why would any school use selection as a means of motivation?  That is just clean mad! 

Whats coming across in the interviews after the games is that St Pauls are attempting to display a siege mentality – that everybody is against them !  Now they are up against a school with a similar admissions policy as themselves.  What are they going to use as motivation now?

I attended a non selective and have since taught in a couple, and I honestly hope St pauls win it as it is a fine school. But I agree with you in regards to any interviews I have seen this year on the ulster colleges website, which there have been plenty. Every time Jerome quinn asks a question there is a pile of talk about representing a great bunch of kids who other schools turn away. This is grand but i must have heard it 6 or 7 times at this stage. There shouldn't be any inferior or siege mentality, St Paul's has around 1600 pupils( yes, half of them are girls, just like maghera), with the main pick of south armagh! Yes it's the first year in the cup i know but I am glad to see them there and great to see them beat st colmans and abbey.

Probably not the thread for this but I think the N.I system is fine as it is, St colmans and abbey in newry are 2 fine school's as they are, and St Paul's is a fine comprehensive school, the government have plans ahead about trying to change it but I can't see it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 04, 2013, 08:09:10 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on March 04, 2013, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 04, 2013, 12:35:35 AM
Why would any school use selection as a means of motivation?  That is just clean mad! 

Whats coming across in the interviews after the games is that St Pauls are attempting to display a siege mentality – that everybody is against them !  Now they are up against a school with a similar admissions policy as themselves.  What are they going to use as motivation now?

I attended a non selective and have since taught in a couple, and I honestly hope St pauls win it as it is a fine school. But I agree with you in regards to any interviews I have seen this year on the ulster colleges website, which there have been plenty. Every time Jerome quinn asks a question there is a pile of talk about representing a great bunch of kids who other schools turn away. This is grand but i must have heard it 6 or 7 times at this stage. There shouldn't be any inferior or siege mentality, St Paul's has around 1600 pupils( yes, half of them are girls, just like maghera), with the main pick of south armagh! Yes it's the first year in the cup i know but I am glad to see them there and great to see them beat st colmans and abbey.

Probably not the thread for this but I think the N.I system is fine as it is, St colmans and abbey in newry are 2 fine school's as they are, and St Paul's is a fine comprehensive school, the government have plans ahead about trying to change it but I can't see it.

Totally agree orchardman. As an ex Maghera man I'm very proud to have come through the comp system but I never once have looked negatively towards St Mary's Magherafelt. It's not an issue in St Pats. We are proud of who we are and don't worry about other schools. By constantly mentioning it Rafferty is actually giving these kids a complex!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orchardman on March 04, 2013, 09:15:22 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 04, 2013, 08:09:10 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on March 04, 2013, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 04, 2013, 12:35:35 AM
Why would any school use selection as a means of motivation?  That is just clean mad! 

Whats coming across in the interviews after the games is that St Pauls are attempting to display a siege mentality – that everybody is against them !  Now they are up against a school with a similar admissions policy as themselves.  What are they going to use as motivation now?

I attended a non selective and have since taught in a couple, and I honestly hope St pauls win it as it is a fine school. But I agree with you in regards to any interviews I have seen this year on the ulster colleges website, which there have been plenty. Every time Jerome quinn asks a question there is a pile of talk about representing a great bunch of kids who other schools turn away. This is grand but i must have heard it 6 or 7 times at this stage. There shouldn't be any inferior or siege mentality, St Paul's has around 1600 pupils( yes, half of them are girls, just like maghera), with the main pick of south armagh! Yes it's the first year in the cup i know but I am glad to see them there and great to see them beat st colmans and abbey.

Probably not the thread for this but I think the N.I system is fine as it is, St colmans and abbey in newry are 2 fine school's as they are, and St Paul's is a fine comprehensive school, the government have plans ahead about trying to change it but I can't see it.

Totally agree orchardman. As an ex Maghera man I'm very proud to have come through the comp system but I never once have looked negatively towards St Mary's Magherafelt. It's not an issue in St Pats. We are proud of who we are and don't worry about other schools. By constantly mentioning it Rafferty is actually giving these kids a complex!

Exactly. I have to say it is possible that rafferty ( who by all accounts is a great fella) and co are reacting to a slurry of smart remarks that i'm not privy to, but surely it can't be more than a bit of slagging, I don't know.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 04, 2013, 11:04:14 PM
Methinks the debate which Rafferty's comments has started would suggest he's winning the mind games
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 04, 2013, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 04, 2013, 11:04:14 PM
Methinks the debate which Rafferty's comments has started would suggest he's winning the mind games

How have you came to that conclusion?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Throw ball on March 04, 2013, 11:32:40 PM
To be honest who really gives a damn. Let the football do the talking. Then again maybe it is my grammar school education that makes me draw that conclusion. ;D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 04, 2013, 11:43:07 PM
I share all your sentiments
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 04, 2013, 11:44:13 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on March 04, 2013, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 04, 2013, 12:35:35 AM
Why would any school use selection as a means of motivation?  That is just clean mad! 

Whats coming across in the interviews after the games is that St Pauls are attempting to display a siege mentality – that everybody is against them !  Now they are up against a school with a similar admissions policy as themselves.  What are they going to use as motivation now?

I attended a non selective and have since taught in a couple, and I honestly hope St pauls win it as it is a fine school. But I agree with you in regards to any interviews I have seen this year on the ulster colleges website, which there have been plenty. Every time Jerome quinn asks a question there is a pile of talk about representing a great bunch of kids who other schools turn away. This is grand but i must have heard it 6 or 7 times at this stage. There shouldn't be any inferior or siege mentality, St Paul's has around 1600 pupils( yes, half of them are girls, just like maghera), with the main pick of south armagh! Yes it's the first year in the cup i know but I am glad to see them there and great to see them beat st colmans and abbey.

Probably not the thread for this but I think the N.I system is fine as it is, St colmans and abbey in newry are 2 fine school's as they are, and St Paul's is a fine comprehensive school, the government have plans ahead about trying to change it but I can't see it.

Slight exaggeration, 1200 would be closer to the truth.
Also, St. Paul's picks from a large part of south Armagh and the outskirts of Newry, but it should be considered how many pupils pass it every morning on the way to Newry. Pupils from Forkhill, Mullabawan, Silverbridge, Cullyhanna, Dorsey, Cross and Cullaville would usually go to St. Joseph's Crossmaglen as well if they don't attend a grammar school, with only very few going to St. Paul's (with some more for A Levels).

Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 04, 2013, 11:04:14 PM
Methinks the debate which Rafferty's comments has started would suggest he's winning the mind games

He's not playing mind games.

Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 04, 2013, 08:09:10 PM

Totally agree orchardman. As an ex Maghera man I'm very proud to have come through the comp system but I never once have looked negatively towards St Mary's Magherafelt. It's not an issue in St Pats. We are proud of who we are and don't worry about other schools. By constantly mentioning it Rafferty is actually giving these kids a complex!

I don't see how Rafferty's comments could suggest the pupils of St. Paul's are any different?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rodney trotter on March 05, 2013, 12:18:40 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 05, 2013, 12:10:33 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 05, 2013, 12:05:07 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 04, 2013, 11:54:00 PM
Asked a boy this evening what the story is with Bessbrook i.e a one off great squad of players or will they stay in the top flight for a while. He toul me that they play B football in every other grade and seems to think they'll want to return to McLarnon after this year. I asked him would they be able to return to McLarnon next year if they win the MacRory final or would they have to defend their title (even though it won't be with the same players). He reckoned they will have a hard time getting back into B football next year but still thought they would be pushing for it.

I'll be supporting them anyway. Great to see a team like that coming up and getting a rattle at it.

Any reason why they don't play Macrory as knock out? - the League basis before christmass leaves players with no competitive football after December, if their team doesn't reach the quarter final.

Works in Leinster, College Level - Ryan Cup etc.
Not sure what you mean here. Having a knock out would mean some teams would have 1 match in the year. Not great.

Missing the point, I mean play a league and see whoever wins that. Like they do in Leinster, split into North and South Leinster and then all the Leinster teams are in the one draw for the Championship. They all get  competitive games in the League and then the Championship starts in Feburay.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on March 05, 2013, 12:20:45 AM
This thread reminds of me when playing for Magee against Derry tech. The tech were beating us when one of our players shouted out..........

'ah come on day f**k boys, we're getting beat by a bunch of lads who dont have an A Level between them!!'
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 05, 2013, 03:23:04 AM
St Joes got £250,000 last year for the provision of a new full size GAA pitch. It will be officially opened later this year. It means that for the first time the school will be able to play home matches on its own pitch. Delighted for them 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: NP 76 on March 05, 2013, 08:21:07 AM
Yes saw that Dougal fair play to them but only for the College giving them ground to expand it wouldnt of had the room so fair play to them also not all bad !!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on March 05, 2013, 03:07:51 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 04, 2013, 11:54:00 PM
Asked a boy this evening what the story is with Bessbrook i.e a one off great squad of players or will they stay in the top flight for a while. He toul me that they play B football in every other grade and seems to think they'll want to return to McLarnon after this year. I asked him would they be able to return to McLarnon next year if they win the MacRory final or would they have to defend their title (even though it won't be with the same players.


would be disappointed if this happened,
they should stay at that level for a while even if they dont have a chance of winning it
i dont like the idea of teams joining a competition only when they think they can win it( st louis a few years ago)
jez in armagh cross have won 18 titles but there are still temas who every year for the last is have stood their ground
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 05, 2013, 05:40:52 PM
Quote from: NP 76 on March 05, 2013, 08:21:07 AM
Yes saw that Dougal fair play to them but only for the College giving them ground to expand it wouldnt of had the room so fair play to them also not all bad !!
As far as I know the land belonged to the Parish rather than the College. But regardless it's great to see St Joes get. Full size pitch and hopefully success on the pitch will follow
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 05, 2013, 08:38:56 PM
the age different is u18 to u181/2 not u-19 that some people are making out. It allows anyone within that final school year the ability to play football for the school. there were plenty at my school who couldn't play minor football for their county or club with me but still could play at colleges level.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ross4life on March 06, 2013, 01:19:00 AM
What's the low-down on St Joseph's Donaghmore?  they play Strokestown this Saturday in All Ireland C semi final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: our_fella on March 06, 2013, 02:45:52 AM
"i dont like the idea of teams joining a competition only when they think they can win it( st louis a few years ago)"

Naka, why wouldnt St.Louis return to the B comp?

In 2004 they won the MacLarnon and the B All-Ireland. In the next 3 years they competed in 2 MacRory finals and 1 Semi.. Take into consideration that they have about 25-30 players whom they can call upon on their panel?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on March 06, 2013, 02:12:23 PM
I feel that if you step up you take the good with the bad
Save for maghera/ college schools most of the other sides only have a smattering of titles.
But Omagh/abbey/ st mickeys etc would never think of regrading even when they have no chance in the competition
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: our_fella on March 06, 2013, 10:57:54 PM
Omagh having no chance in the competition?

Take a day off naka
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 06, 2013, 11:09:28 PM
I don't know why people keep talking about St. Paul's dropping down to McLarnon.

Rafferty said little over a week ago that he intends on keeping St. Paul's in the MacRory as too many good players had passed through the school and missed out on the opportunity in the past.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 07, 2013, 06:20:36 PM
I agree
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on March 07, 2013, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: our_fella on March 06, 2013, 10:57:54 PM
Omagh having no chance in the competition?

Take a day off naka
yes when omagh had no chance
i played mc crory for 3 years in the 80s( actually have a medal 8)) and omagh were whipping boys then
in fact it was as it is now college and maghera who were the serious contenders year in year out
never played for either
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: snoopdog on March 08, 2013, 09:41:16 AM
Quote from: naka on March 07, 2013, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: our_fella on March 06, 2013, 10:57:54 PM
Omagh having no chance in the competition?

Take a day off naka
yes when omagh had no chance
i played mc crory for 3 years in the 80s( actually have a medal 8)) and omagh were whipping boys then
in fact it was as it is now college and maghera who were the serious contenders year in year out
never played for either

So your either Abbey or St Marys CBS Belfast so.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 08, 2013, 09:50:19 AM
Quote from: snoopdog on March 08, 2013, 09:41:16 AM
Quote from: naka on March 07, 2013, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: our_fella on March 06, 2013, 10:57:54 PM
Omagh having no chance in the competition?

Take a day off naka
yes when omagh had no chance
i played mc crory for 3 years in the 80s( actually have a medal 8)) and omagh were whipping boys then
in fact it was as it is now college and maghera who were the serious contenders year in year out
never played for either

So your either Abbey or St Marys CBS Belfast so.

Has to be Abbey... Only men from the Newry area refer to Colmans as 'the college'....
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 08, 2013, 11:35:38 AM
Abbey won it in the 87



Team Titles Winning Years
1 St Colman's College, Newry 19 1949, 1950, 1957, 1958, 1960, 1963, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1988, 1993, 1998, 2010, 2011
2 St. Patrick's Grammar School, Armagh 14 1923, 1924, 1925, 1926, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1931, 1944, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1953, 2000
3 St. Patrick's College, Maghera 12 1977, 1980, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1989, 1990, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2003
4 St. Patrick's College, Cavan 11 1935, 1936, 1937, 1939, 1943, 1948, 1951, 1955, 1961, 1962, 1972
5 St. Macartan's, Monaghan 9 1925, 1930, 1932, 1933, 1934, 1940, 1942, 1952, 1956
6 St. Michael's College, Enniskillen 6 1973, 1992, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2012
7 Abbey CBS, Newry 5 1954, 1959, 1964, 1987, 2006
8 St. Patrick's Academy, Dungannon 5 1991, 1997, 2004, 2008, 2009
9 Omagh CBS 4 1974, 2001, 2005, 2007
10 St. Malachy's, Belfast 2 1925, 1970
St. Mary's Dundalk 2 1938, 1941
St. Columb's, Derry 2 1965, 1966
St Marys CBGS Belfast 2 1971, 1986
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on March 08, 2013, 12:19:38 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 08, 2013, 11:35:38 AM
Abbey won it in the 87



Team Titles Winning Years
1 St Colman's College, Newry 19 1949, 1950, 1957, 1958, 1960, 1963, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1988, 1993, 1998, 2010, 2011
2 St. Patrick's Grammar School, Armagh 14 1923, 1924, 1925, 1926, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1931, 1944, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1953, 2000
3 St. Patrick's College, Maghera 12 1977, 1980, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1989, 1990, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2003
4 St. Patrick's College, Cavan 11 1935, 1936, 1937, 1939, 1943, 1948, 1951, 1955, 1961, 1962, 1972
5 St. Macartan's, Monaghan 9 1925, 1930, 1932, 1933, 1934, 1940, 1942, 1952, 1956
6 St. Michael's College, Enniskillen 6 1973, 1992, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2012
7 Abbey CBS, Newry 5 1954, 1959, 1964, 1987, 2006
8 St. Patrick's Academy, Dungannon 5 1991, 1997, 2004, 2008, 2009
9 Omagh CBS 4 1974, 2001, 2005, 2007
10 St. Malachy's, Belfast 2 1925, 1970
St. Mary's Dundalk 2 1938, 1941
St. Columb's, Derry 2 1965, 1966
St Marys CBGS Belfast 2 1971, 1986
[/quote
did Abbey not also win it in 82 by default? from st patricks Maghera
st marys  belfast in 86 had a great side as did st pats Armagh in 87( college beat them in the semi)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 08, 2013, 01:29:41 PM
No they didn't, Maghera won the game on the pitch, Abbey appealed the result to the Ulster Colleges saying St Pats played an ineligible player, then St Pats appealed it to croke park and won the appeal, end of. Explaining why St Pats played in the Hogan semi final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 08, 2013, 06:40:45 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 05, 2013, 10:13:23 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 05, 2013, 08:38:56 PM
the age different is u18 to u181/2 not u-19 that some people are making out. It allows anyone within that final school year the ability to play football for the school. there were plenty at my school who couldn't play minor football for their county or club with me but still could play at colleges level.

Exactly. I was overage for my club minor team whilst still playing for the school. If it was u19 you'd have boys repeating years at school to keep playing!

Just wondering how you managed to play U.18 football for St. Joes when students leave their school at 16?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 08, 2013, 07:00:47 PM
I think he said earlier that he did A Levels at St Paul's
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 08, 2013, 07:07:49 PM
That explains the posts about St Pauls then ;)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 08, 2013, 07:12:39 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 08, 2013, 07:07:49 PM
That explains the posts about St Pauls then ;)

I think he was Jarlath Burns!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 08, 2013, 07:16:25 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 08, 2013, 07:12:39 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 08, 2013, 07:07:49 PM
That explains the posts about St Pauls then ;)

I think he was Jarlath Burns!!

Very similar comments about St Joes made by both men!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 08, 2013, 07:17:05 PM
No. Burns was a College man
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 08, 2013, 08:03:21 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 08, 2013, 07:17:05 PM
No. Burns was a College man

His articles last year would certainly show no love for St Colmans.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 11:44:38 AM
Predictions for Monday folks??
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: snoopdog on March 15, 2013, 11:49:53 AM
Best of Luck to st Pauls Bessbrook on monday, hope you win it and the hogan.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 15, 2013, 12:17:58 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 11:44:38 AM
Predictions for Monday folks??

I fancy Maghera to sneak it by a point, I hope not though. Would love to see St. Paul's win it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
With the final being switch to accomodate Armagh/Newry schools and Higgins in charge, Maghera will be up against it on Monday!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 15, 2013, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
With the final being switch to accomodate Armagh/Newry schools and Higgins in charge, Maghera will be up against it on Monday!!

How has it been made to accommodate Armagh/Newry schools?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 15, 2013, 01:13:14 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 15, 2013, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
With the final being switch to accomodate Armagh/Newry schools and Higgins in charge, Maghera will be up against it on Monday!!

How has it been made to accommodate Armagh/Newry schools?

well wasn't the venue changed from Celtic Park, and Higgins has a history as long as your arm of shafting Derry teams
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 01:27:48 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 15, 2013, 01:13:14 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 15, 2013, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
With the final being switch to accomodate Armagh/Newry schools and Higgins in charge, Maghera will be up against it on Monday!!

How has it been made to accommodate Armagh/Newry schools?

well wasn't the venue changed from Celtic Park, and Higgins has a history as long as your arm of shafting Derry teams

The venue was changed straight after the Bessbrook/Monaghan game, not even waiting for the Colmans/Maghera replay to be played!! It should be played in a neutral venue regardless of proximity!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Throw ball on March 15, 2013, 01:29:41 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 15, 2013, 01:13:14 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 15, 2013, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
With the final being switch to accomodate Armagh/Newry schools and Higgins in charge, Maghera will be up against it on Monday!!

How has it been made to accommodate Armagh/Newry schools?

well wasn't the venue changed from Celtic Park, and Higgins has a history as long as your arm of shafting Derry teams

I remember watching an under 21 match between Armagh and Derry about 6 years ago in Cross when he truly shafted Armagh. Nippy Swift nearly got decapitated a couple of times without even getting a free then in injury time he game Derry the softest of frees from which they got the winning score. Maybe he dislikes both equally then!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Throw ball on March 15, 2013, 01:30:53 PM
Surely unless the match is played in Bessbrook or Maghera it is a neutral venue?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on March 15, 2013, 01:31:20 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 15, 2013, 01:13:14 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 15, 2013, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
With the final being switch to accomodate Armagh/Newry schools and Higgins in charge, Maghera will be up against it on Monday!!

How has it been made to accommodate Armagh/Newry schools?

well wasn't the venue changed from Celtic Park, and Higgins has a history as long as your arm of shafting Derry teams

Ah to be fair a load of them Maghera boys are glad the game is not in celtic park lol!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 02:05:42 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on March 15, 2013, 01:31:20 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 15, 2013, 01:13:14 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 15, 2013, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
With the final being switch to accomodate Armagh/Newry schools and Higgins in charge, Maghera will be up against it on Monday!!

How has it been made to accommodate Armagh/Newry schools?

well wasn't the venue changed from Celtic Park, and Higgins has a history as long as your arm of shafting Derry teams

Ah to be fair a load of them Maghera boys are glad the game is not in celtic park lol!

Haha you behave Tickle!!

The South Armagh men have kept quiet on the verbal abuse by Rafferty towards a St Pats player following the Mc Cormick Cup final...
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 15, 2013, 02:27:32 PM

Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
With the final being switch to accomodate Armagh/Newry schools and Higgins in charge, Maghera will be up against it on Monday!!

Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 02:05:42 PM

well wasn't the venue changed from Celtic Park, and Higgins has a history as long as your arm of shafting Derry teams

Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 02:05:42 PM

The South Armagh men have kept quiet on the verbal abuse by Rafferty towards a St Pats player following the Mc Cormick Cup final...

Can't help but think Walter Cronc is on the wind up here..  :)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 02:34:11 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 15, 2013, 02:27:32 PM
Can't help but think Walter Cronc is on the wind up here..  :)


Not when it involves a player from my club!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 15, 2013, 02:37:47 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 02:34:11 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 15, 2013, 02:27:32 PM
Can't help but think Walter Cronc is on the wind up here..  :)


Not when it involves a player from my club!

Well it must be totally true then and if it's a player from your club it's even worse! The fact it's not got out is due to a conspiracy by all of us in south Armagh.

If you just came out and said you don't like St. Paul's Bessbrook for some reason it would all be a lot more understandable  :D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 02:41:39 PM
I have nothing against the school, what I dont accept is the way he behaved to a minor!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 15, 2013, 05:38:29 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 15, 2013, 02:41:39 PM
I have nothing against the school, what I dont accept is the way he behaved to a minor!

We'll have to take your word for it then. I'm sure Rafferty would have a different version of events than you however.

By the way, I still don't get how Maghera are at a disadvantage with the final being in the Athletic Grounds.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 16, 2013, 12:55:23 PM
Ah it's Armaghs county ground!! I'm sure these players have had numerous games/training sessions there over the years. Anyway Maghera have won it there before and can do so again!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 16, 2013, 02:46:43 PM
So what's your problem then
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 16, 2013, 02:49:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 16, 2013, 02:46:43 PM
So what's your problem then

U
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 16, 2013, 02:56:52 PM
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Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 16, 2013, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 16, 2013, 12:55:23 PM
Ah it's Armaghs county ground!! I'm sure these players have had numerous games/training sessions there over the years. Anyway Maghera have won it there before and can do so again!

Really? Thanks for pointing that out to all of us. Just as well Armagh aren't playing there on Monday then.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 16, 2013, 08:38:56 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 16, 2013, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 16, 2013, 12:55:23 PM
Ah it's Armaghs county ground!! I'm sure these players have had numerous games/training sessions there over the years. Anyway Maghera have won it there before and can do so again!

Really? Thanks for pointing that out to all of us. Just as well Armagh aren't playing there on Monday then.

Obv never got the sarcasm there.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 16, 2013, 09:15:52 PM
I managed to catch a fair bit of the interviews by 5FM in both St Louis and St Pauls this week.  The difference in approach was staggering and I feel that St Louis made a much better job of showing their school in a better light.

In St Louis they let the pupils speak for themselves, visiting a number of classes live on air, talking to the kids and tachers in the classes, talking about the school and their chances in the final, as well as talking to a number of the players and management about their chances in the final.  It came across as an excellent PR event for St Louis, really selling their school and the pupils really sold their school on air.  The football people seemed focused on the game and knew alot about their opposition, happy to talk about what it meant to them all.

St Pauls on the other hand wanted to talk about anything other than the Macrory final.  They talked to very few kids throughout the show and it actually was 11.20 before they actually spoke to someone from the school even though the programme began at 10.00.  They listened to their choir and he major emphasis was the the VP who couldn't say enough about the job he was doing with his links in the primary schools and how St Pauls had such wonderful kids with all their kids coming from a particular mile radius of the school and how he used his laptop to compile a database of the talents of these pupils and then informed all teachers of the talents of these kids when they came into the school.  A few teachers mentioned the great push to 'sell' the good wishes posters put up on the poles on the way to St Pauls and I'm sure at £50 a pop that St Pauls have done well out of this!  The same was said briefly by the principal about the wonderful kids at St Pauls and by the Macrory team management who had a few words at the end but little mention of the match.

Its just amazing the difference in approach.  If had been a match, St Louis won have won hands down.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Throw ball on March 17, 2013, 03:08:38 AM
Line Ball I never heard the interviews so have only got your report to go on. My initial reaction would be that maybe St. Paul's are trying to stress the importance of every student in the school and not just the footballers. They may also be trying to take pressure of the young fellas.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 17, 2013, 11:46:26 AM
I didn't hear them either however your post would suggest that St Paul's gave a more rounded view of themselves while St Louis was more focused on the football.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: downtown on March 17, 2013, 01:43:31 PM
what time is this game at? is it on tv
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 17, 2013, 01:47:20 PM
Not at all.  St Louis let the children speak and really sold their school, St Pauls let very few people speak but tried to emphasize their wonderful kids.  It was nearly an hour and a half into the programme before he spoke to anyone at St Pauls while he went into classrooms in St Louis and all round the school.

Just thought that St Louis did it much better.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 17, 2013, 02:53:08 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 16, 2013, 08:38:56 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 16, 2013, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 16, 2013, 12:55:23 PM
Ah it's Armaghs county ground!! I'm sure these players have had numerous games/training sessions there over the years. Anyway Maghera have won it there before and can do so again!

Really? Thanks for pointing that out to all of us. Just as well Armagh aren't playing there on Monday then.

Obv never got the sarcasm there.

Aye, obv!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 17, 2013, 02:59:36 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 16, 2013, 09:15:52 PM
I managed to catch a fair bit of the interviews by 5FM in both St Louis and St Pauls this week.  The difference in approach was staggering and I feel that St Louis made a much better job of showing their school in a better light.

In St Louis they let the pupils speak for themselves, visiting a number of classes live on air, talking to the kids and tachers in the classes, talking about the school and their chances in the final, as well as talking to a number of the players and management about their chances in the final.  It came across as an excellent PR event for St Louis, really selling their school and the pupils really sold their school on air.  The football people seemed focused on the game and knew alot about their opposition, happy to talk about what it meant to them all.

St Pauls on the other hand wanted to talk about anything other than the Macrory final.  They talked to very few kids throughout the show and it actually was 11.20 before they actually spoke to someone from the school even though the programme began at 10.00.  They listened to their choir and he major emphasis was the the VP who couldn't say enough about the job he was doing with his links in the primary schools and how St Pauls had such wonderful kids with all their kids coming from a particular mile radius of the school and how he used his laptop to compile a database of the talents of these pupils and then informed all teachers of the talents of these kids when they came into the school.  A few teachers mentioned the great push to 'sell' the good wishes posters put up on the poles on the way to St Pauls and I'm sure at £50 a pop that St Pauls have done well out of this!  The same was said briefly by the principal about the wonderful kids at St Pauls and by the Macrory team management who had a few words at the end but little mention of the match.

Its just amazing the difference in approach.  If had been a match, St Louis won have won hands down.

I listened to both and it was the interviewer who first mentioned to Jarlath Burns if there was a 'plan' in place to target good footballers when they're in primary school. He then explained that it was his job to work with local primary schools to find out the abilities of each child, not just football talents but music, art etc.
He was basically getting across that the school isn't just all about the footballers.

I should also say that St. Louis also came across very well.
Two good schools and although I'd like to see Lurgan win the MacLarnon from an Armagh perspective, I'll also be happy for St. Louis if they win it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 17, 2013, 03:33:58 PM
Interview with Principal Mr. Mooney.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HFf5dTH-dyE#!

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Oraisteach on March 17, 2013, 03:35:35 PM
ranch, when is the match, and is it on tv or radio?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 17, 2013, 03:59:56 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on March 17, 2013, 03:35:35 PM
ranch, when is the match, and is it on tv or radio?

1.15pm tomorrow on BBC television.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 17, 2013, 08:08:25 PM
Late show undoes Ulster Colleges' great showing in Croke Cup

March 16, 2013

Croke Cup quarter-finals

Ulster Colleges 1-14 Connacht Mercy Colleges 2-12

Inexperience, not hurling ability, is why Ulster Colleges are not preparing for a Croke Cup semi-final with holders Kilkenny CBS next Saturday.

They managed to lose a game they were in control of and indeed at times dominated by not putting Mercy Colleges from Connacht away when they were 8 points up with less than 20 minutes to play.

Add in a couple of very harsh refereeing decsions in injury time and the full disappointment of an excellent effort at Ashbourne on Saturday is realised.

This is a game Ulster should not have lost.  But there were periods at the start and end where a little more experience at this level of competition could have taken them across the line and allowed them to build on the experience.

The team seemed very nervous for the first 15 minutes and took a long time to settle into any real pattern of play.  During the second quarter though they were dominant and began to play some excellent hurling, epitomised by a point taken by Eamon Kearns that came at the end of 4 super passes into space that players had created, leaving Kearns with a clear target from 40 metres out.

We led by double scores at the break 0-10 to 0-5, with 6 super frees from Mattie Lennon.  Conor Johnson had a brilliant half, taking two excellent points but opening up play with his speed and awareness.

Midfield was fairly crowded at times, but the physical strength of the northerners gave them the upperhand, while the defence had by now taken control and didn't look as if it could be breached.

Within 15 seconds of the re-start, Domhnall Nugent fired home a goal.  Although Flynn hit back with two points, Lennon from a free and a 65 left his side 1-12 to 0-7 ahead after 42 minutes.

The next 10 minutes was probably where the game was lost – and more experience at this level could have helped with the decision-making.

In the 44th minute, two Ulster defenders committed to a high delivery that went over both leaving dangerman Flynn with a clear run on goal.  That score was a turning-point as it gave Mercy Colleges hope they hadn't had up until now.

It also panicked Ulster a little.  Although Lennon slotted over a free in response, Chris Egan had a couple of great runs on goal that should have delivered at least 2 points.  A couple of handy frees were conceeded at the back and Mercy edged closer.

Ulster still led by 1-14 to 1-11 entering injury time, when referee David Hughes award Mercy a 21 metres free when Conor O'Neill looked to have fairly tackled Eoin Morrissey.  It was a contentious decision.  Jason Flynn levelled the tie by burying the free.

From the puck-out, Lorcán McMullan, one of the Ulster side's top-performers, was clearly tripped as he went clear.  Referee Hughes waved play on and the sliotar was picked up by Shane Caulfield who launched a massive strike from 90 metres that sailed over the bar to break Ulster hearts.

Ulster proved that they had prepared well enough to compete on an equal footing at this level.  However they hesitated a little when exposed to the white heat of competition and ultimately fell on that sword.

I have no doubt in my mind that, had they survived here, their semi-final performance would have been turbo-charged by the confidence that comes with victory.  Sadly that notion will not be proven for another 12 months at least.

Ulster team : Colin Hayden (St Killian's Garron Tower), Tomas Ó Ciaráin (St Mary's CBGS), Rian Brannigan (St Colman's Newry), Maol Connolly (St Killian's), Conor Costello (Aquinas), Conor O Neill (St Patrick's Downpatrick), Paddy Burke (St Killian's), Lorcán McMullan (Knock) 0-2, Chris Egan (Knock), Conor Johnson (St Mary's CBGS) 0-2, Ryan McCambridge (CPC Ballycastle), Eoghan Campbell (CPC Ballycastle), Mattie Lennon (St Patrick's Armagh) 0-9, 0-8 frees, 0-1 65, Domhnall Nugent (La Salle) 1-0, Eamon Kearns (St Killian's) 0-1.

Subs : Subs : Eoghan Sands (St Patrick's Downpatrick) for D Nugent (42), John McManus (St Patrick's Downpatrick) for P Burke (54), Pearse óg McCrickard (St Colman's Newry) for R McCambridge (57), John McGoldrick (St Patrick's Belfast) for M Connolly (57).

Subs not used : Daniel Doran, Brooke Byres, Caolan Taggart (all St Patrick's Downpatrick), Paddy McBride (CPC Ballycastle), Declan Traynor (St Louis Ballymena), Gerard Walsh (St Mary's CBGS), Ryan McNulty (Rathmore Grammar), Ruari Devlin (St Patrick's Academy), Daniel Mone (St Patrick's Keady), Cormac Ross (St Malachy's Belfast), Christy McNaughton (St Killian's).

Mercy : Cathal Touhy, Stephen Pierce, Conor Nevin, Ronan Fahy, Oisin Coyle, Shane Caulfield 0-1, Peter English, Martin O'Brien 0-2, Luke Uniacke, Kevin McHugo, Daniel Sweeney, Jason Flynn 2-9, 1-7 frees, 0-1 65, Geroid Loughnane, Eoin Morrisey, Cormac Dillon.

Subs : Cathal Kelly for C Dillon (25), conor Gardiner for G Loughnane (38).

Referee : David Hughes.



No luck to the Ulster team and fair play to all the men who put so much into this team.

That must have been some point for a young lad to score from distance - 90 metres?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 09:05:40 AM
Who is best to follow on twitter for updates today lads?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: sbw on March 18, 2013, 09:22:24 AM
Good luck st pats today I have no doubt you can win it
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 10:18:47 AM
Over 20 buses leaving Maghera. There is going to be some atmosphere in Armagh today!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 18, 2013, 10:41:02 AM
Indeed good luck to St Pats. 24 bus' infact, and with St Paul's carrying a massive support the atmosphere will electric.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on March 18, 2013, 11:38:48 AM
The atmosphere at McRory games is brilliant. Hope Bessbrook can win today and I think they will as long as they play the game and not let the occasion get the better of them.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 11:47:09 AM
Still fancy Maghera, dunno whether thats the heart ruling the head though! The hurt from last year coupled with the big game experience of the Glen lads should hopefully see them through. Bessbrook much stronger management, of that there is no doubt!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on March 18, 2013, 12:16:30 PM
I hear Bessbrook got the red card over turned from the semi as well, will be a boost no doubt.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: All of a Sludden on March 18, 2013, 12:28:14 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 09:05:40 AM
Who is best to follow on twitter for updates today lads?

@mccoydromintee @Armagh_GAA
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on March 18, 2013, 12:29:08 PM
How'd st Michael's and kilkeel game go?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: All of a Sludden on March 18, 2013, 12:35:46 PM
Lurgan won by 2 points.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on March 18, 2013, 12:40:10 PM
Great stuff!! Some Buckfast consumed tonight
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: All of a Sludden on March 18, 2013, 12:42:58 PM
Lurgan 1-06  1-04 Kilkeel
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on March 18, 2013, 12:50:35 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on March 18, 2013, 12:42:58 PM
Lurgan 1-06  1-04 Kilkeel

The Lurgan team must be about 70% from Clann Eireann. They must have a good set up in that club.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on March 18, 2013, 01:10:06 PM
Video from the MacLarnon Final - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCNuZ6vj-e0&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCNuZ6vj-e0&feature=youtu.be) and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxsDN3sLvIE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxsDN3sLvIE)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: All of a Sludden on March 18, 2013, 01:34:05 PM
Flukey goal. St Paul's 0-3  1-1 St Pats
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: All of a Sludden on March 18, 2013, 01:50:43 PM
Half time: St Paul's 0-3  2-1 St Pats
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 18, 2013, 01:52:32 PM
Thats a fairly big St pats Full forward, wasnt much of  a push for the disallowed goal
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 18, 2013, 01:53:04 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on March 18, 2013, 01:34:05 PM
Flukey goal. St Paul's 0-3  1-1 St Pats

nothing flukey about the 2nd. great fetch and low finish to the corner by O'Hara. Too powerful for the full back.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: All of a Sludden on March 18, 2013, 01:56:29 PM
@JoeBrolly1993
Jackie Fullerton's love child's response on BBC to Maghera's 2nd goal
" Big score from the bear in the square, he roars, they roar"
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on March 18, 2013, 02:00:07 PM
Video - see St Patrick's Maghera's killer second goal in today's Danske Bank MacRory Cup Final: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Cf2J3o5Gg&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Cf2J3o5Gg&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: DownFanatic on March 18, 2013, 02:19:04 PM
Quote from: Orior on March 18, 2013, 12:50:35 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on March 18, 2013, 12:42:58 PM
Lurgan 1-06  1-04 Kilkeel

The Lurgan team must be about 70% from Clann Eireann. They must have a good set up in that club.

Clann Eireann have been dominating U8 and U10 tournaments across the Province for the past 7/8 years so it is all probably a follow on from this.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 18, 2013, 02:44:01 PM
Well done St. Pat's.

Great effort from St. Paul's in the 2nd half there, O'Hanlon and Eoghan Burns were everywhere.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2013, 02:44:33 PM
That was an exciting finish in crap conditions. Hard luck to Bessbrook - a bit like Kilkeel all those years ago.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: AFS on March 18, 2013, 02:45:06 PM
Very hard on St. Paul's there, thought they deserved at least a draw. Maghera really hanging on in the end. Flukey first goal for Maghera and a lot of bad wides from St. Paul's the difference in the end.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 02:51:18 PM
Get in there!! Delighted.

Hard luck Bessbrook but I have no doubt you'll be back.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: All of a Sludden on March 18, 2013, 02:51:50 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 18, 2013, 02:45:06 PM
Very hard on St. Paul's there, thought they deserved at least a draw. Maghera really hanging on in the end. Flukey first goal for Maghera and a lot of bad wides from St. Paul's the difference in the end.

St Paul's played the better football in the second half, but their shooting let them down at times. Couple of excellent saves from the St Pats keeper.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 02:53:52 PM
Ref favourable to St Pauls in the 2nd half.

Goals win matches at underage!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 18, 2013, 02:57:57 PM
I wouldn't say he was favourable, he gave frees that deserved to be given.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 02:58:39 PM
O'Hanlons at the end when he clearly charged??
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 18, 2013, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 02:58:39 PM
O'Hanlons at the end when he clearly charged??

50/50. I've seen them given either way on many occasions, as I'm sure all of us have.

You think that one incident justifies your statement that he favoured St. Paul's for the entire 2nd half?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: AFS on March 18, 2013, 03:04:43 PM
Thought the ref gave a load of handy frees throughout the game. Didn't think either side was really favoured over the other. Could have been more than two minutes injury time, that one was of particular benefit to Maghera.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2013, 03:07:42 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 18, 2013, 03:04:43 PM
Thought the ref gave a load of handy frees throughout the game. Didn't think either side was really favoured over the other. Could have been more than two minutes injury time, that one was of particular benefit to Maghera.

Didn't give any injury time in the first half which is rare
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 03:10:37 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 18, 2013, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 02:58:39 PM
O'Hanlons at the end when he clearly charged??

50/50. I've seen them given either way on many occasions, as I'm sure all of us have.

You think that one incident justifies your statement that he favoured St. Paul's for the entire 2nd half?

Apologies Jarlath!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Throw ball on March 18, 2013, 03:11:46 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 18, 2013, 03:07:42 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 18, 2013, 03:04:43 PM
Thought the ref gave a load of handy frees throughout the game. Didn't think either side was really favoured over the other. Could have been more than two minutes injury time, that one was of particular benefit to Maghera.

Didn't give any injury time in the first half which is rare

Was too bloody cold and wet. He was looking in for a hot drink!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2013, 03:15:46 PM
Many of that Bessbrook team available next year?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 18, 2013, 03:19:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 18, 2013, 03:15:46 PM
Many of that Bessbrook team available next year?

There'll be quite a few from the panel still there next year but it's hard to see them being as strong. I think the 5th years won the colleges B tournament before Christmas when they beat St. Joseph's Crossmaglen, but the step from that to MacRory will be huge.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 18, 2013, 03:34:21 PM
To be honest outside of their no.14 who was very good and has played 2yrs of Armagh minors, i couldnt see where St Pauls scores would come from. St pats who had a poor enough 2nd half 2 yrs in a row just about edged it. And the free given at the end was never a free, man been held up by 4 defenders, ref was giving that type of decision to the defenders earlier in the game
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on March 18, 2013, 03:40:34 PM
Ref was very inconsistent to both sides and I was surprised that only 2 inutes injury time were played considering the number of substitutions and the stop start nature of the game. St Pauls underperformed but ultimately their inability to handle O'Hara in the first half proved costly. Numbers 6 and 10 for Maghera were excellent but only Burns and O'Hanlon in patches played well for St Pauls. They failed in not playing O'Hanlon at full forward in the second half and getting long ball in to him. Well done to Maghera though, hopefully they can go on and win the Hogan Cup.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 18, 2013, 03:42:37 PM
hard to say how they they go, i thought the team they had last year was better
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 03:47:57 PM
No idea really about the Hogan. Think they play the Connacht champs. I assume Jarlaths?? I heard Edenderry have lots back from last year! In saying that Im not even sure who the provincial champs are. Hopefully they can go on a run!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on March 18, 2013, 04:00:05 PM
Some save by Maghera keeper Ciaran McCloy near the end... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K-GDxgs6W8&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K-GDxgs6W8&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on March 18, 2013, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 03:47:57 PM
No idea really about the Hogan. Think they play the Connacht champs. I assume Jarlaths?? I heard Edenderry have lots back from last year! In saying that Im not even sure who the provincial champs are. Hopefully they can go on a run!!

Semi Final is against St Gerards Castlebar on Sat 30th March. Apparently beat Jarlaths in Connacht final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 04:07:17 PM
Quick turnaround then! Wont be easy. Jarlaths arent the force they once were with no boarders!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 18, 2013, 04:12:45 PM
It's a better turnaround than some of the previous years. St. Paul's won MacLarnon last year then had the AI semi final 6 days later.

I'd imagine last years Hogan winners are still favourites (near sure I read somewhere they were still in it).
However Maghera have battled their way through Ulster with tight games against Enniskillen, St. Colman's twice and now St. Paul's. If they're involved in another tight game you have to fancy them to win it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Jinxy on March 18, 2013, 04:22:21 PM
Edenderry are out lads.
Pats Navan beat them in the Leinster final a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 04:23:18 PM
I'd imagine Pat's Navan are very strong Jinxy?? Is O'Rourke over them?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on March 18, 2013, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 18, 2013, 04:22:21 PM
Edenderry are out lads.
Pats Navan beat them in the Leinster final a couple of weeks ago.

Is Colm O'Rourke still over Navan?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Jinxy on March 18, 2013, 04:24:59 PM
Yes and yes.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 18, 2013, 04:28:57 PM
Anybody know who Holy Trinity play in the u18 Vocational semi finals?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 18, 2013, 04:31:29 PM
Tactically St Paul's were caught out,particularly in the first half.  It was so obvious that that O'Docherty at no 10 was sweeping everything infront of O'Hanlon. Eoghan Burns should have been  pushed right up onto him and occupy him. Instead he simply swept up all the loose passes and cut down the space into O'Hanlon.  I also thought that physically Maghera were stronger than Bessbrook. Bessbrook rarely were able to break through into the space   as they were physically bottled up but the Magera lads seemed to get the ball in space a lot easier and were able to win the 1 on 1 battles easier.  Still a lucky goal won it and as St Brigid's showed the luck generally favours the victors over the season.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 18, 2013, 04:42:01 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 18, 2013, 04:31:29 PM
Tactically St Paul's were caught out,particularly in the first half.  It was so obvious that that O'Docherty at no 10 was sweeping everything infront of O'Hanlon. Eoghan Burns should have been  pushed right up onto him and occupy him. Instead he simply swept up all the loose passes and cut down the space into O'Hanlon.  I also thought that physically Maghera were stronger than Bessbrook. Bessbrook rarely were able to break through into the space   as they were physically bottled up but the Magera lads seemed to get the ball in space a lot easier and were able to win the 1 on 1 battles easier.  Still a lucky goal won it and as St Brigid's showed the luck generally favours the victors over the season.

Agree totally. Had Burns been pushed up he could have caused some bother to Maghera.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: onefaircounty on March 18, 2013, 05:35:30 PM
Thought it was more bad decision making than tactics. One of Bessbrook's key qualities this year has been the lack of panic and slow moving of the ball out of defence. Today so many defenders hoofed the ball in the first 20 minutes, O'Doherty couldn't believe his luck. Think this was maybe the occasion getting to some.

No issues with result. Maghera physically stronger. Two minutes at the end was a joke, but referee gave St Paul's plenty of help in the second half.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: sbw on March 18, 2013, 06:13:07 PM
St pats were lucky to get over the line in the end but they showed much better discipline throughout the game but on this occasion it could have back fired as higgins seemed to give st Paul's frees easier than st pats in second half
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 18, 2013, 06:21:19 PM
Quote from: onefaircounty on March 18, 2013, 05:35:30 PM
Thought it was more bad decision making than tactics. One of Bessbrook's key qualities this year has been the lack of panic and slow moving of the ball out of defence. Today so many defenders hoofed the ball in the first 20 minutes, O'Doherty couldn't believe his luck. Think this was maybe the occasion getting to some.

No issues with result. Maghera physically stronger. Two minutes at the end was a joke, but referee gave St Paul's plenty of help in the second half.

On the field it may have been bad decision making but once it became clear what was happening then the management should have addressed it. The fact that the 'sweeper' won MOTM tells its own story on his influence on the game.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on March 18, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
st. pauls were always chasing the game and st.pats were always in control. the only reason st. pauls got so close in the end was the ref who definitely favoured st. pauls in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Throw ball on March 18, 2013, 07:36:05 PM
Quote from: elk on March 18, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
st. pauls were always chasing the game and st.pats were always in control. the only reason st. pauls got so close in the end was the ref who definitely favoured st. pauls in the 2nd half.

Maybe he was cheesed off with the amount of time he and Bessbrook had to stand in the cold before Maghera decided they wanted to play the second half. ;D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2013, 07:41:00 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on March 18, 2013, 07:36:05 PM
Quote from: elk on March 18, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
st. pauls were always chasing the game and st.pats were always in control. the only reason st. pauls got so close in the end was the ref who definitely favoured st. pauls in the 2nd half.

Maybe he was cheesed off with the amount of time he and Bessbrook had to stand in the cold before Maghera decided they wanted to play the second half. ;D

Why do managers continue to do this! Can't understand it at all. Ref always seems to go against the side who appears late in 2nd half.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 18, 2013, 07:45:59 PM
Quote from: elk on March 18, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
st. pauls were always chasing the game and st.pats were always in control. the only reason st. pauls got so close in the end was the ref who definitely favoured st. pauls in the 2nd half.

Other than the last free where O'Hanlon could have been adjudged to be charging I can't remember any decision he gave St. Paul's which stands out as bad?
It's not as if Maghera weren't given frees in the 2nd half either.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lenny on March 18, 2013, 07:59:36 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 18, 2013, 07:45:59 PM
Quote from: elk on March 18, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
st. pauls were always chasing the game and st.pats were always in control. the only reason st. pauls got so close in the end was the ref who definitely favoured st. pauls in the 2nd half.

Other than the last free where O'Hanlon could have been adjudged to be charging I can't remember any decision he gave St. Paul's which stands out as bad?
It's not as if Maghera weren't given frees in the 2nd half either.

He blew numerous frees against maghera for picking the ball off the ground but let bessbrook off with the same offence at least 3 times.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: sbw on March 18, 2013, 08:06:37 PM
That's how we saw it for sure . Poor game I thought but finals are for winning and st pats won't care less and why should they
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 18, 2013, 08:16:26 PM
I certainly wouldn't say he was biased or favoured any team over the other.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: sbw on March 18, 2013, 08:24:32 PM
Watch it again  :D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 18, 2013, 08:30:17 PM
Quote from: sbw on March 18, 2013, 08:24:32 PM
Watch it again  :D

I have.

Whilst I wanted St. Paul's to win I'm genuinely happy for Maghera after last season, no young lad deserves to lose two finals in as many years.
I just don't buy into this notion that the ref got St. Paul's back into it. They were never out of it in the first place and although they were scoring frees in the 2nd half they were frees that deserved to be given and St. Pat's were also getting them up at the other end.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 18, 2013, 08:44:24 PM
St Pauls will be gutted, havent saw stats but i'd imagine Pauls dominated possession? I wouldn't blame tactics for the defeat either, how many frees were missed, wrong on-field options taken? More than enough chances to win. Just came out the wrong end of a tight one.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 18, 2013, 10:34:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 18, 2013, 09:06:21 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2013, 08:44:24 PM
St Pauls will be gutted, havent saw stats but i'd imagine Pauls dominated possession? I wouldn't blame tactics for the defeat either, how many frees were missed, wrong on-field options taken? More than enough chances to win. Just came out the wrong end of a tight one.
Agree with that. They were beaten by the minimum in a game that could have gone either way. They missed some very kickable frees and conceded a goal that wouldn't have gone in 99 out of 100 times. Two very evenly matched teams, St. Pauls were just unlucky.

Yeah, losing by the minimum is what will probably hurt them most given some of the chances missed. I know some of the players and management and whilst the management can always have another crack at the MacRory in the future it's a pity that talented players like Ciaron O'Hanlon and Eoghan Burns have only had one year at it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 18, 2013, 11:06:18 PM
A great pity indeed but Ciaran O'Hanlon has Armagh U 21s coming and Eoghan Burns is still a minor so hopefully they'll have a chance to shine there
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 19, 2013, 12:01:43 AM
On the other hand, young Glass from Maghera has another 3 years at MacRory level. Great future ahead of him.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: onefaircounty on March 19, 2013, 07:48:43 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2013, 08:44:24 PM
St Pauls will be gutted, havent saw stats but i'd imagine Pauls dominated possession? I wouldn't blame tactics for the defeat either, how many frees were missed, wrong on-field options taken? More than enough chances to win. Just came out the wrong end of a tight one.

My take on it too. Don't think tactics had any real baring. Inexperience more telling.  Well done to both teams, especially Maghera.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 19, 2013, 09:40:56 AM
Quote from: ranch on March 19, 2013, 12:01:43 AM
On the other hand, young Glass from Maghera has another 3 years at MacRory level. Great future ahead of him.

Lots of players of both sides hopefully have big futures ahead of them. If Conor keeps developing he will go far. Delighted as a Glen man that we finished with 9 players on the field. That has to be a record number!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: sbw on March 19, 2013, 10:23:11 AM
really thought St Pats discipline was as good as any team i have ever seen they just played the game and it was great to see them as winners . more teams should have this policy , what i did not like was the fact that good discipline near cost them as the 2nd half was littered with harsh frees against them. referees are sending the wrong message .

fair play to Glen , 9 players finishing the game on the pitch is a fantastic achivement. i really believe they are going to be a major force in derry soon .
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 19, 2013, 11:01:29 AM
A big congratulations to St Pats, thought they were the best team, and whilst the game went down to the wire and you couldn't ignore St Pauls guts, it was St Pats greater quality that eventually bore the result. Also congratualtions to Sean Marty Lockhart and Martin Mc Connell on stepping from underneath a great but ledendry shadow of Big Adrian, the first MacRory to be taken to the school without Adrians influence. But it must be said, that this final like last year was nearly lost as a result of negative tactics and and not allowing players to express themselves to the full. When Maghera were on top in the 1st half it was very obvious how much better they were to St Pauls, but instead of pushing up and taking full advantage of their superiority they stay rigid to their policy of trying to stifle the oppostion, it was this tactic that invited St Pauls unto them in the last 10 mins and without doubt could have resulted in a replay, the same tactic resulted in St Pats loosing the final last year, and it seems nothing has been learned. There is nothing wrong with playing sweepers etc, but when you attack you have to have players supporting the play in numbers to make the tactic an effective counter attack, and this is where St Pats struggle, but on the other side of the arguement the end justifies the means. On the postive side there were many players on the St Pats team yesterday who have won every competion they have entered from 1st year, the O Farrell , the Dalton, the Corn Na Og, the Brock, the Rannafast and now the MacRory, quite incredible, and I wonder has this ever happened before with an age group, at any other college, at this level. Onwards and upwards to the Hogan.

BTW it would make sense that Glen should have the biggest representation on the team, the school serves its primary schools.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on March 19, 2013, 11:08:19 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 19, 2013, 11:01:29 AM
A big congratulations to St Pats, thought they were the best team, and whilst the game went down to the wire and you couldn't ignore St Pauls guts, it was St Pats greater quality that eventually bore the result. Also congratualtions to Sean Marty Lockhart and Martin Mc Connell on stepping from underneath a great but ledendry shadow of Big Adrian, the first MacRory to be taken to the school without Adrians influence. But it must be said, that this final like last year was nearly lost as a result of negative tactics and and not allowing players to express themselves to the full. When Maghera were on top in the 1st half it was very obvious how much better they were to St Pauls, but instead of pushing up and taking full advantage of their superiority they stay rigid to their policy of trying to stifle the oppostion, it was this tactic that invited St Pauls unto them in the last 10 mins and without doubt could have resulted in a replay, the same tactic resulted in St Pats loosing the final last year, and it seems nothing has been learned. There is nothing wrong with playing sweepers etc, but when you attack you have to have players supporting the play in numbers to make the tactic an effective counter attack, and this is where St Pats struggle, but on the other side of the arguement the end justifies the means. On the postive side there were many players on the St Pats team yesterday who have won every competion they have entered from 1st year, the O Farrell , the Dalton, the Corn Na Og, the Brock, the Rannafast and now the MacRory, quite incredible, and I wonder has this ever happened before with an age group, at any other college, at this level. Onwards and upwards to the Hogan.

BTW it would make sense that Glen should have the biggest representation on the team, the school serves its primary schools.

Its funny how people see things differently, I don't think Maghera were 'obviously much better' than St Pauls. If the result had gone the other way I don't think anyone could have argued. Ultimately the soft first goal was the winning of the game for Maghera. They were physically much stronger than Bessbrook but the teams were very evenly matched. That was borne out by the fact that in the 2 matches they played this season there was the minimum score in both games. Also the sweeper that Maghera employed got MOTM so I don't think you could argue that it wasn't a success. In fact I would say that Maghera got their tactics spot on.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 19, 2013, 11:17:46 AM
Your entitled to your view sur, but Maghera dominated the 1st half and were the better team and to me as a St Pats man I felt we were in a position to drive on, but as I said we sat back. Our sitting back eventually invited St Pauls unto us as they went four down and with the guts they had they were going to give all they had if allowed to come to us. I did say on the other side of the argument that the end justifies the means. A sweeper who is good at his job should be in a position to compete for MOTM, as he has nobody to mark, just read the game.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on March 19, 2013, 11:44:59 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 19, 2013, 11:17:46 AM
Your entitled to your view sur, but Maghera dominated the 1st half and were the better team and to me as a St Pats man I felt we were in a position to drive on, but as I said we sat back. Our sitting back eventually invited St Pauls unto us as they went four down and with the guts they had they were going to give all they had if allowed to come to us. I did say on the other side of the argument that the end justifies the means. A sweeper who is good at his job should be in a position to compete for MOTM, as he has nobody to mark, just read the game.

On the scoreboard yes, but in terms of possession I would disagree. I would like to know the number of missed chances for either side in the first half but I'd imagine St Pauls had more scoring opportunities than Maghera but simply didn't convert.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: sbw on March 19, 2013, 11:46:51 AM
It was not a one sided game right from the off st pauls showed they could get into scoring positions and they were hit with 2 sucker blows in the 1st half add to that they kicked 3-4 bad wides their confidence was down going towards half time but good managment got them up and at it again and on another day they could have got a draw but for a great save they might even have won the game. St Pauls and St Pats are 2 well matched sides IMO
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: sbw on March 19, 2013, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: FiFtH mAn TaCkLe on March 19, 2013, 01:55:42 PM
good job maghera won yesterday.
would have been a huge embarrassment if a high school won the mccrory cup.

cheers for that  ::)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on March 19, 2013, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 19, 2013, 11:08:19 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 19, 2013, 11:01:29 AM
A big congratulations to St Pats, thought they were the best team, and whilst the game went down to the wire and you couldn't ignore St Pauls guts, it was St Pats greater quality that eventually bore the result. Also congratualtions to Sean Marty Lockhart and Martin Mc Connell on stepping from underneath a great but ledendry shadow of Big Adrian, the first MacRory to be taken to the school without Adrians influence. But it must be said, that this final like last year was nearly lost as a result of negative tactics and and not allowing players to express themselves to the full. When Maghera were on top in the 1st half it was very obvious how much better they were to St Pauls, but instead of pushing up and taking full advantage of their superiority they stay rigid to their policy of trying to stifle the oppostion, it was this tactic that invited St Pauls unto them in the last 10 mins and without doubt could have resulted in a replay, the same tactic resulted in St Pats loosing the final last year, and it seems nothing has been learned. There is nothing wrong with playing sweepers etc, but when you attack you have to have players supporting the play in numbers to make the tactic an effective counter attack, and this is where St Pats struggle, but on the other side of the arguement the end justifies the means. On the postive side there were many players on the St Pats team yesterday who have won every competion they have entered from 1st year, the O Farrell , the Dalton, the Corn Na Og, the Brock, the Rannafast and now the MacRory, quite incredible, and I wonder has this ever happened before with an age group, at any other college, at this level. Onwards and upwards to the Hogan.

BTW it would make sense that Glen should have the biggest representation on the team, the school serves its primary schools.

Its funny how people see things differently, I don't think Maghera were 'obviously much better' than St Pauls. If the result had gone the other way I don't think anyone could have argued. Ultimately the soft first goal was the winning of the game for Maghera. They were physically much stronger than Bessbrook but the teams were very evenly matched. That was borne out by the fact that in the 2 matches they played this season there was the minimum score in both games. Also the sweeper that Maghera employed got MOTM so I don't think you could argue that it wasn't a success. In fact I would say that Maghera got their tactics spot on.


As a neutral at the game IMO the superior team won. It will be interesting to see how St. Pauls perform next year, will they bounce back like St. Pats did this year?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 19, 2013, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: FiFtH mAn TaCkLe on March 19, 2013, 01:55:42 PM
good job maghera won yesterday.
would have been a huge embarrassment if a high school won the mccrory cup.

Not sure of your being serious, thinking you are, so just to help you with the jibe about St Pauls, but to help you on your way its, St Patricks High School Maghera, thats 13 MacRory's for this high school
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on March 19, 2013, 04:02:57 PM
Thought the magherA number 6 was excellent , super player I wish him well,
Wanted St. Paul's to win but felt that st pats just about deserved it.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on March 19, 2013, 05:15:42 PM
Quote from: naka on March 19, 2013, 04:02:57 PM
Thought the magherA number 6 was excellent , super player I wish him well,
Wanted St. Paul's to win but felt that st pats just about deserved it.

Missed the game due as I was working that Monday. That must have been Carville, super player.

Walter throw up the clubs and players would ye!!! How did Dougan do and Danny Tallon; they have had super years altogether!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 19, 2013, 05:25:26 PM
As you wish!

St Patrick's Maghera - Mc Cloy (Glen), Glass (Glen), Hughes (Lavey), Hegarty (Glen), Mulholland (Glen), Carville (1-00) (Glen), Gallagher (Glen), Kearney (Swatragh), Cassidy (0-01) (Bellaghy), O'Doherty (Slaughtneil), Bradley (0-02) (Slaughtneil), Mc Faul (Bellaghy), Cassidy (Slaughtneil), O'Hara (1-01) (Glen), Tallon (Glen). Subs: Hagan (Banagher), Convery (0-01) (Glen), Mc Atamney (Swatragh).

Btw Ryan Dougan is overage Tickle!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on March 19, 2013, 05:34:45 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 19, 2013, 05:25:26 PM
As you wish!

St Patrick's Maghera - Mc Cloy (Glen), Glass (Glen), Hughes (Lavey), Hegarty (Glen), Mulholland (Glen), Carville (1-00) (Glen), Gallagher (Glen), Kearney (Swatragh), Cassidy (0-01) (Bellaghy), O'Doherty (Slaughtneil), Bradley (0-02) (Slaughtneil), Mc Faul (Bellaghy), Cassidy (Slaughtneil), O'Hara (1-01) (Glen), Tallon (Glen). Subs: Hagan (Banagher), Convery (0-01) (Glen), Mc Atamney (Swatragh).

Btw Ryan Dougan is overage Tickle!

Good man Walt. That Gallagher fella was missing for yer club minor team this year isn't that right? Good to see a few Bellaghy boys on the winning team for once!lol!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 19, 2013, 05:39:41 PM
Conor Gallagher missed the 1st Ulster Minor winning campaign but played midfield this year. Very good player!!

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 19, 2013, 06:55:47 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 19, 2013, 11:01:29 AM
A big congratulations to St Pats, thought they were the best team, and whilst the game went down to the wire and you couldn't ignore St Pauls guts, it was St Pats greater quality that eventually bore the result. Also congratualtions to Sean Marty Lockhart and Martin Mc Connell on stepping from underneath a great but ledendry shadow of Big Adrian, the first MacRory to be taken to the school without Adrians influence. But it must be said, that this final like last year was nearly lost as a result of negative tactics and and not allowing players to express themselves to the full. When Maghera were on top in the 1st half it was very obvious how much better they were to St Pauls, but instead of pushing up and taking full advantage of their superiority they stay rigid to their policy of trying to stifle the oppostion, it was this tactic that invited St Pauls unto them in the last 10 mins and without doubt could have resulted in a replay, the same tactic resulted in St Pats loosing the final last year, and it seems nothing has been learned. There is nothing wrong with playing sweepers etc, but when you attack you have to have players supporting the play in numbers to make the tactic an effective counter attack, and this is where St Pats struggle, but on the other side of the arguement the end justifies the means. On the postive side there were many players on the St Pats team yesterday who have won every competion they have entered from 1st year, the O Farrell , the Dalton, the Corn Na Og, the Brock, the Rannafast and now the MacRory, quite incredible, and I wonder has this ever happened before with an age group, at any other college, at this level. Onwards and upwards to the Hogan.

BTW it would make sense that Glen should have the biggest representation on the team, the school serves its primary schools.
You'll notice the McCormick Cup is missing from that and regardless of what your views might be fact is St Paul's beat them that night and had yesterday's match lasted a few minutes more they could have won that too 7 scores to 10 would indicate that Pats were not as dominant as you suggest but such is life. Fair play to St Paul's lads they did their school clubs and community proud
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 19, 2013, 07:26:22 PM
No one gives a monkeys about the Mc Cormick and never will.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 19, 2013, 07:40:31 PM
You might say that but the fact is its there
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 19, 2013, 08:03:27 PM
Well go enjoy it there!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 19, 2013, 09:14:56 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 19, 2013, 06:55:47 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 19, 2013, 11:01:29 AM
A big congratulations to St Pats, thought they were the best team, and whilst the game went down to the wire and you couldn't ignore St Pauls guts, it was St Pats greater quality that eventually bore the result. Also congratualtions to Sean Marty Lockhart and Martin Mc Connell on stepping from underneath a great but ledendry shadow of Big Adrian, the first MacRory to be taken to the school without Adrians influence. But it must be said, that this final like last year was nearly lost as a result of negative tactics and and not allowing players to express themselves to the full. When Maghera were on top in the 1st half it was very obvious how much better they were to St Pauls, but instead of pushing up and taking full advantage of their superiority they stay rigid to their policy of trying to stifle the oppostion, it was this tactic that invited St Pauls unto them in the last 10 mins and without doubt could have resulted in a replay, the same tactic resulted in St Pats loosing the final last year, and it seems nothing has been learned. There is nothing wrong with playing sweepers etc, but when you attack you have to have players supporting the play in numbers to make the tactic an effective counter attack, and this is where St Pats struggle, but on the other side of the arguement the end justifies the means. On the postive side there were many players on the St Pats team yesterday who have won every competion they have entered from 1st year, the O Farrell , the Dalton, the Corn Na Og, the Brock, the Rannafast and now the MacRory, quite incredible, and I wonder has this ever happened before with an age group, at any other college, at this level. Onwards and upwards to the Hogan.

BTW it would make sense that Glen should have the biggest representation on the team, the school serves its primary schools.
You'll notice the McCormick Cup is missing from that and regardless of what your views might be fact is St Paul's beat them that night and had yesterday's match lasted a few minutes more they could have won that too 7 scores to 10 would indicate that Pats were not as dominant as you suggest but such is life. Fair play to St Paul's lads they did their school clubs and community proud

The Mc Cormack cup is a league final and has nowt to do with MacRory, both teams were unbeaten in the MacRory until yesterdays game. The only unbeaten team in the MacRory is St Pats.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: sbw on March 19, 2013, 09:59:31 PM
If , but , why and maybe dougal  ;)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2013, 07:38:00 AM
Quote from: ranch on March 21, 2013, 01:56:34 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 19, 2013, 07:26:22 PM
No one gives a monkeys about the Mc Cormick and never will.

Although the McCormick cup is obviously not on the same level as the MacRory, the fact remains that if St. Pat's had won it then a lot of people would be keen to add it to their list of achievements since 1st year. None of the boys who played in the final before Christmas did so with the intention of losing. St. Paul's deserve credit for winning it. That said, they'd obviously swap it for the MacRory.

Also, I can't remember who posted it but I honestly don't think the final was as one sided as some on here are suggesting. The more clinical side won and were deserving of their success. Had St. Paul's managed to convert one of their goal chances though and went on to win no one could have begrudged them the title either.

Jeez will you ever give over. Your like an aul women harping on there!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 21, 2013, 07:43:43 AM
Gracious in victory. You're a credit to yourself
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2013, 07:51:56 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on March 21, 2013, 07:43:43 AM
Gracious in victory. You're a credit to yourself

I already gave credit to Bessbrook. Fair played to them and I wish them all the best in the next coming years but if Maghera had been beat I wouldn't be going on and on about it. The fact remains the Mc Cormick cup is a nothing competition and will remain that way. Leagues are for playing in, championships are for winning!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: DuffleKing on March 21, 2013, 08:32:44 AM

Going into the final, Bessbrook were the only unbeaten team left
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 21, 2013, 09:28:58 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 21, 2013, 08:32:44 AM

Going into the final, Bessbrook were the only unbeaten team left

If you include the Mc Cormaick cup as part of the MacRory competition I would agree,but he fact of the matter is that it isn't. But both teams playing the final were unbeaten in the MacRory Cup, its seems you think that the Mc Cormick Cup is part of the MacRory, it is not. Hope that i have clarified that small matter for you.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: qubdub on March 21, 2013, 11:01:53 AM
How many Glen Maghera men were on the St Pat's panel? Seen there were something like 14 Clann Eireann players on the St Michael's McLarnon squad, albeit a grade lower I was just wondering has any other club contributed more players to one team at colleges' level???
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2013, 11:07:12 AM
11 Glen lads on the panel, 8 started the final. Should have been 12, but the Maghera management didnt see a place for last years Derry U17 captain! ::)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 21, 2013, 11:13:34 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2013, 11:07:12 AM
11 Glen lads on the panel, 8 started the final. Should have been 12, but the Maghera management didnt see a place for last years Derry U17 captain! ::)

u think. Well I could argue that Paul Mc Atamney and young Mc Neill could have started, never mind Neill Mc Nicholl who was sick or Conor Tadd and Ruairi Mc Elwee who would be a certs to start if they weren't injured.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2013, 11:17:47 AM
If you read my post you'll see I'm referring to the panel Rawhide :)

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 21, 2013, 11:18:54 AM
BTW who was the u17 captain
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2013, 11:20:44 AM
Cathair Mc Cabe.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 21, 2013, 07:11:25 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 19, 2013, 07:26:22 PM

Jeez will you ever give over. Your like an aul women harping on there!

Right  ::)

All I stated was that Maghera, once in the McCormick final, would clearly loved to have won it which is true. There's nothing in my previous post which isn't true or takes away from Maghera's success.

Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2013, 07:38:00 AM
I already gave credit to Bessbrook. Fair played to them and I wish them all the best in the next coming years but if Maghera had been beat I wouldn't be going on and on about it. The fact remains the Mc Cormick cup is a nothing competition and will remain that way. Leagues are for playing in, championships are for winning!

It was in fact others who went "on and on" about how St. Paul's had the ref to thank for being within a point of Maghera in the first place. Others can have a different opinion and reply, it's usually how forums like this work.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 21, 2013, 07:32:23 PM
Well the McCormack cup winners, nobody really looks at, but  people can remember previous Macrory cup finals, maybe cause it on Tv. the thing that bother me about school football is the way they pick the colleges all stars, which should be picked on form through the Macrory and not over a few weekends where players pair up with unfamiliar team members to play games to get recognized as a all star
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 21, 2013, 07:35:42 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 21, 2013, 07:32:23 PM
Well the McCormack cup winners, nobody really looks at, but  people can remember previous Macrory cup finals, maybe cause it on Tv. the thing that bother me about school football is the way they pick the colleges all stars, which should be picked on form through the Macrory and not over a few weekends where players pair up with unfamiliar team members to play games to get recognized as a all star

Yeah the All Star system really is a joke. It seems that it's in place to have a good spread of players from different schools etc.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 22, 2013, 05:05:07 PM
Hogan Cup semi-final :
St Patrick's, Maghera v St Gerald's, Castlebar. Saturday 30th March @3pm in Brewster Park, Enniskillen
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 22, 2013, 05:25:34 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 21, 2013, 07:35:42 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 21, 2013, 07:32:23 PM
Well the McCormack cup winners, nobody really looks at, but  people can remember previous Macrory cup finals, maybe cause it on Tv. the thing that bother me about school football is the way they pick the colleges all stars, which should be picked on form through the Macrory and not over a few weekends where players pair up with unfamiliar team members to play games to get recognized as a all star

Yeah the All Star system really is a joke. It seems that it's in place to have a good spread of players from different schools etc.


Yeah, it looks that way. When you look at the players who didn't get one for whatever reason that's the only conclusion you can come to and therefore shouldn't be called All Stars, for example O' Hanlon, Burns, Cassidy, Tallon all playing on Monday, others like Noonan, Haughey and Mallon, real quality players, superior to many of the players who were awarded one. Players who all performed under pressure in knock out football in comparison to the trials, can you imagine it TRIALS. :o To further emphasise the point, St Colemans didn't get a so called All Star award, a team that drew and had a 2 pt defeat in a replay to the eventual champions, embarrassing. Surely educated teachers could come up with a more satisfactory method.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 22, 2013, 05:44:56 PM
I say there be a number of players that dont even bother with the trials
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
Just a few points.  I missed the Macrory final due to work and only managed to watch it back this eveing there.  Maghera were the better team and had a gameplan which bessbrook couldn't match.  Having read the thread, I don't know how people can't blame the tactics of Bessbrook as they continually 'gave' the ball to the Maghera sweeper allowing him and Carville to come on to them continually.  Madness!!!

The referee couldn't have done much more to keep St Pauls in it - maybe he fell for the 'poor us' card that Bessbrook have been playing all year.  They did come back strong in the end and could have snuck it with a few late chance but wouldn't have deserved it.

As for winning the Mac Cormick cup.  Fair play Bessbrook but nobody gives a toss about this meaningless competition.  Qualifying is all that matters out of the groups and not winning this.  How many Macrory winners have also won this over the last few years?

Just wondering if Bessbrook in the Macrory or slip back off to the MacLarnon again.  They have had a good first year but will need their VP doing his work to bring more lads into the school to study  do A Levels   Btecs.  I, for one, am sick, sore and tired hearing about the wonderful kids in St Pauls (and I am not getting at the actual kids here as they are just pawns in all this).  They are no different from the kids in any other school who strive to do their best in all that they do inside and outside the classroom but to hear/read individuals from St Pauls spout their dung you would think there is no other school who are like them or do what they do.  Catch a grip.  Maghera are a similar type of school and I never heard them mention this once.  I'm glad they won.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orchardman on March 22, 2013, 08:30:38 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
Just a few points.  I missed the Macrory final due to work and only managed to watch it back this eveing there.  Maghera were the better team and had a gameplan which bessbrook couldn't match.  Having read the thread, I don't know how people can't blame the tactics of Bessbrook as they continually 'gave' the ball to the Maghera sweeper allowing him and Carville to come on to them continually.  Madness!!!

The referee couldn't have done much more to keep St Pauls in it - maybe he fell for the 'poor us' card that Bessbrook have been playing all year.  They did come back strong in the end and could have snuck it with a few late chance but wouldn't have deserved it.

As for winning the Mac Cormick cup.  Fair play Bessbrook but nobody gives a toss about this meaningless competition.  Qualifying is all that matters out of the groups and not winning this.  How many Macrory winners have also won this over the last few years?

Just wondering if Bessbrook in the Macrory or slip back off to the MacLarnon again.  They have had a good first year but will need their VP doing his work to bring more lads into the school to study  do A Levels   Btecs.  I, for one, am sick, sore and tired hearing about the wonderful kids in St Pauls (and I am not getting at the actual kids here as they are just pawns in all this).  They are no different from the kids in any other school who strive to do their best in all that they do inside and outside the classroom but to hear/read individuals from St Pauls spout their dung you would think there is no other school who are like them or do what they do.  Catch a grip.  Maghera are a similar type of school and I never heard them mention this once.  I'm glad they won.

Think your making a bit of a meal out of nothing.
Firstly, though I am a supporter of St Pauls having had family that attended the school, I did say myself that rafferty had overplayed the card ' oh, our students are great, its not about the team, its about 1500 great kids, blah'. I said that because it became a bit tiresome after every interview this year.

However, I know for a fact it is a fantastic school, and wont listen to clowns making sneaky digs about 'BTECS'. The difference is St Pauls are surrounded by 2 excellent boys grammar schools and 2 excellent girls grammar schools, all a few miles away in Newry. Maghera near rivals would only be Marys in magherafelt, another top school. I don't only see one side, as I believe in both grammar and comp schools, but St Paul's do a fantastic job and it's great they have finally got their act together over the last 5 years in terms of their GAA potential.

Shouldn't even be mentioned about dropping out of McCrory, why would they? They stuffed most teams they played, and only lost final by a point. Sure they will lose top players but sure that happens every year in every school. A team should only be dropping out when it becomes obvious they cant compete
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 09:01:13 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on March 22, 2013, 08:30:38 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
Just a few points.  I missed the Macrory final due to work and only managed to watch it back this eveing there.  Maghera were the better team and had a gameplan which bessbrook couldn't match.  Having read the thread, I don't know how people can't blame the tactics of Bessbrook as they continually 'gave' the ball to the Maghera sweeper allowing him and Carville to come on to them continually.  Madness!!!

The referee couldn't have done much more to keep St Pauls in it - maybe he fell for the 'poor us' card that Bessbrook have been playing all year.  They did come back strong in the end and could have snuck it with a few late chance but wouldn't have deserved it.

As for winning the Mac Cormick cup.  Fair play Bessbrook but nobody gives a toss about this meaningless competition.  Qualifying is all that matters out of the groups and not winning this.  How many Macrory winners have also won this over the last few years?

Just wondering if Bessbrook in the Macrory or slip back off to the MacLarnon again.  They have had a good first year but will need their VP doing his work to bring more lads into the school to study  do A Levels   Btecs.  I, for one, am sick, sore and tired hearing about the wonderful kids in St Pauls (and I am not getting at the actual kids here as they are just pawns in all this).  They are no different from the kids in any other school who strive to do their best in all that they do inside and outside the classroom but to hear/read individuals from St Pauls spout their dung you would think there is no other school who are like them or do what they do.  Catch a grip.  Maghera are a similar type of school and I never heard them mention this once.  I'm glad they won.

Think your making a bit of a meal out of nothing.
Firstly, though I am a supporter of St Pauls having had family that attended the school, I did say myself that rafferty had overplayed the card ' oh, our students are great, its not about the team, its about 1500 great kids, blah'. I said that because it became a bit tiresome after every interview this year.

However, I know for a fact it is a fantastic school, and wont listen to clowns making sneaky digs about 'BTECS'. The difference is St Pauls are surrounded by 2 excellent boys grammar schools and 2 excellent girls grammar schools, all a few miles away in Newry. Maghera near rivals would only be Marys in magherafelt, another top school. I don't only see one side, as I believe in both grammar and comp schools, but St Paul's do a fantastic job and it's great they have finally got their act together over the last 5 years in terms of their GAA potential.

Shouldn't even be mentioned about dropping out of McCrory, why would they? They stuffed most teams they played, and only lost final by a point. Sure they will lose top players but sure that happens every year in every school. A team should only be dropping out when it becomes obvious they cant compete

Fair enough point - I shouldn't have mentioned the Btec thing but its just that I know that there are so many lads who go to St Pauls because they can do a Btec in PE which is worth 3 A Levels and I don't believe there is any exam to do either - I'm not quite sure how this works. 

St Pauls do a great job for the Gaa in South Armagh but if a lad from Newry, Ballyholland, Saval, Mayobridge, Hilltown, Rostrevor etc wants to go there he cant.  They only let kids from South Armagh go there.  There would be an outcry if any of the four Grammar schools in Newry decided that they would only take kids from South Down.  Surely they can't be allowed to take only kids from Armagh?  Is it any wonder that we keep hearing about this Armagh thing.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 22, 2013, 09:33:16 PM
Thats the way the Education system is supposed to work now that the Catholic Church has deemed Grammars obselete & all schools are to go down the non-selective route, you go to the school nearest you. Wether that'll ever happen is another question entirely. St Pat's Grammar in Armagh  is to go all-ability from September & it's hoped that they will act as a catalyst to spur other schools to follow.

Have to say this is the most childish thread i've read in a long time, full of nonsense.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orchardman on March 22, 2013, 10:15:16 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 09:01:13 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on March 22, 2013, 08:30:38 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
Just a few points.  I missed the Macrory final due to work and only managed to watch it back this eveing there.  Maghera were the better team and had a gameplan which bessbrook couldn't match.  Having read the thread, I don't know how people can't blame the tactics of Bessbrook as they continually 'gave' the ball to the Maghera sweeper allowing him and Carville to come on to them continually.  Madness!!!

The referee couldn't have done much more to keep St Pauls in it - maybe he fell for the 'poor us' card that Bessbrook have been playing all year.  They did come back strong in the end and could have snuck it with a few late chance but wouldn't have deserved it.

As for winning the Mac Cormick cup.  Fair play Bessbrook but nobody gives a toss about this meaningless competition.  Qualifying is all that matters out of the groups and not winning this.  How many Macrory winners have also won this over the last few years?

Just wondering if Bessbrook in the Macrory or slip back off to the MacLarnon again.  They have had a good first year but will need their VP doing his work to bring more lads into the school to study  do A Levels   Btecs.  I, for one, am sick, sore and tired hearing about the wonderful kids in St Pauls (and I am not getting at the actual kids here as they are just pawns in all this).  They are no different from the kids in any other school who strive to do their best in all that they do inside and outside the classroom but to hear/read individuals from St Pauls spout their dung you would think there is no other school who are like them or do what they do.  Catch a grip.  Maghera are a similar type of school and I never heard them mention this once.  I'm glad they won.

Think your making a bit of a meal out of nothing.
Firstly, though I am a supporter of St Pauls having had family that attended the school, I did say myself that rafferty had overplayed the card ' oh, our students are great, its not about the team, its about 1500 great kids, blah'. I said that because it became a bit tiresome after every interview this year.

However, I know for a fact it is a fantastic school, and wont listen to clowns making sneaky digs about 'BTECS'. The difference is St Pauls are surrounded by 2 excellent boys grammar schools and 2 excellent girls grammar schools, all a few miles away in Newry. Maghera near rivals would only be Marys in magherafelt, another top school. I don't only see one side, as I believe in both grammar and comp schools, but St Paul's do a fantastic job and it's great they have finally got their act together over the last 5 years in terms of their GAA potential.

Shouldn't even be mentioned about dropping out of McCrory, why would they? They stuffed most teams they played, and only lost final by a point. Sure they will lose top players but sure that happens every year in every school. A team should only be dropping out when it becomes obvious they cant compete

Fair enough point - I shouldn't have mentioned the Btec thing but its just that I know that there are so many lads who go to St Pauls because they can do a Btec in PE which is worth 3 A Levels and I don't believe there is any exam to do either - I'm not quite sure how this works. 

St Pauls do a great job for the Gaa in South Armagh but if a lad from Newry, Ballyholland, Saval, Mayobridge, Hilltown, Rostrevor etc wants to go there he cant.  They only let kids from South Armagh go there.  There would be an outcry if any of the four Grammar schools in Newry decided that they would only take kids from South Down.  Surely they can't be allowed to take only kids from Armagh?  Is it any wonder that we keep hearing about this Armagh thing.

For sure BTEC's are deemed easier in many ways. They don't have the stressful exams at the end but they contain a steady amount of constant coursework.

But for the selection of south down kids, it's nothing to do with St Paul's, they have to have a catchment area which are most a lot of the south armagh feeder primary schools. Thats how it works, warrenpoint on the other side of newry then caters for south down.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 10:18:01 PM

Quote from: bennydorano on March 22, 2013, 09:33:16 PM
Thats the way the Education system is supposed to work now that the Catholic Church has deemed Grammars obselete & all schools are to go down the non-selective route, you go to the school nearest you. Wether that'll ever happen is another question entirely. St Pat's Grammar in Armagh  is to go all-ability from September & it's hoped that they will act as a catalyst to spur other schools to follow.

Have to say this is the most childish thread i've read in a long time, full of nonsense.

Supposed to work? In theory yes but practice may be a different thing.  This would mean all kids in Crossmaglem, Mullaghbawn and Silverbridge going to St Joseph's Crosssmaglen.  Macrory champions 2020!!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 10:25:45 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on March 22, 2013, 10:15:16 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 09:01:13 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on March 22, 2013, 08:30:38 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
Just a few points.  I missed the Macrory final due to work and only managed to watch it back this eveing there.  Maghera were the better team and had a gameplan which bessbrook couldn't match.  Having read the thread, I don't know how people can't blame the tactics of Bessbrook as they continually 'gave' the ball to the Maghera sweeper allowing him and Carville to come on to them continually.  Madness!!!

The referee couldn't have done much more to keep St Pauls in it - maybe he fell for the 'poor us' card that Bessbrook have been playing all year.  They did come back strong in the end and could have snuck it with a few late chance but wouldn't have deserved it.

As for winning the Mac Cormick cup.  Fair play Bessbrook but nobody gives a toss about this meaningless competition.  Qualifying is all that matters out of the groups and not winning this.  How many Macrory winners have also won this over the last few years?

Just wondering if Bessbrook in the Macrory or slip back off to the MacLarnon again.  They have had a good first year but will need their VP doing his work to bring more lads into the school to study  do A Levels   Btecs.  I, for one, am sick, sore and tired hearing about the wonderful kids in St Pauls (and I am not getting at the actual kids here as they are just pawns in all this).  They are no different from the kids in any other school who strive to do their best in all that they do inside and outside the classroom but to hear/read individuals from St Pauls spout their dung you would think there is no other school who are like them or do what they do.  Catch a grip.  Maghera are a similar type of school and I never heard them mention this once.  I'm glad they won.

Think your making a bit of a meal out of nothing.
Firstly, though I am a supporter of St Pauls having had family that attended the school, I did say myself that rafferty had overplayed the card ' oh, our students are great, its not about the team, its about 1500 great kids, blah'. I said that because it became a bit tiresome after every interview this year.

However, I know for a fact it is a fantastic school, and wont listen to clowns making sneaky digs about 'BTECS'. The difference is St Pauls are surrounded by 2 excellent boys grammar schools and 2 excellent girls grammar schools, all a few miles away in Newry. Maghera near rivals would only be Marys in magherafelt, another top school. I don't only see one side, as I believe in both grammar and comp schools, but St Paul's do a fantastic job and it's great they have finally got their act together over the last 5 years in terms of their GAA potential.

Shouldn't even be mentioned about dropping out of McCrory, why would they? They stuffed most teams they played, and only lost final by a point. Sure they will lose top players but sure that happens every year in every school. A team should only be dropping out when it becomes obvious they cant compete

Fair enough point - I shouldn't have mentioned the Btec thing but its just that I know that there are so many lads who go to St Pauls because they can do a Btec in PE which is worth 3 A Levels and I don't believe there is any exam to do either - I'm not quite sure how this works. 

St Pauls do a great job for the Gaa in South Armagh but if a lad from Newry, Ballyholland, Saval, Mayobridge, Hilltown, Rostrevor etc wants to go there he cant.  They only let kids from South Armagh go there.  There would be an outcry if any of the four Grammar schools in Newry decided that they would only take kids from South Down.  Surely they can't be allowed to take only kids from Armagh?  Is it any wonder that we keep hearing about this Armagh thing.

For sure BTEC's are deemed easier in many ways. They don't have the stressful exams at the end but they contain a steady amount of constant coursework.

But for the selection of south down kids, it's nothing to do with St Paul's, they have to have a catchment area which are most a lot of the south armagh feeder primary schools. Thats how it works, warrenpoint on the other side of newry then caters for south down.

Bessbrook only SELECT kids from South Armagh.  They are as SELECTIVE as any grammar school. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 22, 2013, 10:42:14 PM
Bessbrook presumably are adhering to policy - in  answer to you asking why people from outside the area dont / cant go there, so they are not being 'selective' they are following Governmental & Catholic Church policy - policies that are being ignored by most Grammars.  Hopefully it will be the future, but then why would the  big Grammar schools sit there & watch their powerbases being taken from them.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 10:59:34 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 22, 2013, 10:42:14 PM
Bessbrook presumably are adhering to policy - in  answer to you asking why people from outside the area dont / cant go there, so they are not being 'selective' they are following Governmental & Catholic Church policy - policies that are being ignored by most Grammars.  Hopefully it will be the future, but then why would the  big Grammar schools sit there & watch their powerbases being taken from them.



Take a wee chill pill there Benny - I feel your pain.  Obviously St Pauls are one of the few schools following the policy.  I take it then they don't have any kids from Culloville, Crossmaglen, Mullaghbawn or Silverbridge and outlaying areas then as these kids should all be going to St Joseph's Crossmaglen?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 22, 2013, 11:36:09 PM
No idea,  i've no connections to the Bessbrook area, i dont know the  boundaries that  influence the school  selection process. Presumably you do??
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 22, 2013, 11:48:09 PM


Quote from: bennydorano on March 22, 2013, 09:33:16 PM
Thats the way the Education system is supposed to work now that the Catholic Church has deemed Grammars obselete & all schools are to go down the non-selective route, you go to the school nearest you. Wether that'll ever happen is another question entirely. St Pat's Grammar in Armagh  is to go all-ability from September & it's hoped that they will act as a catalyst to spur other schools to follow.

Have to say this is the most childish thread i've read in a long time, full of nonsense.
No idea. Boundaries?  I would presume that kids from Culloville, Crossmaglen, Mullaghbawn should be going to St, Josephs Crossmaglen. You are the Armagh man and I presume you know more than me.

According to you, kids from the areas I have listed should be going to St Josephs.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
All those areas bar Cullaville are as handy to St Pauls as to Cross & if within the same 'boundary' you're free to choose, just like a Newry nuck could choose between Abbey, Colmans or St Marys if they all adopted the all-ability ethos. There's a list of criteria on the DE website if you're interested.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: AFS on March 23, 2013, 12:54:21 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
All those areas bar Cullaville are as handy to St Pauls as to Cross & if within the same 'boundary' you're free to choose, just like a Newry nuck could choose between Abbey, Colmans or St Marys if they all adopted the all-ability ethos. There's a list of criteria on the DE website if you're interested.

It would certainly be interesting if a young fella passed over the Abbey or the College in favour of St. Mary's.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 23, 2013, 01:00:34 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
All those areas bar Cullaville are as handy to St Pauls as to Cross & if within the same 'boundary' you're free to choose, just like a Newry nuck could choose between Abbey, Colmans or St Marys if they all adopted the all-ability ethos. There's a list of criteria on the DE website if you're interested.

So kids from Crosssmaglen can 'select'  to go to Bessbrook.  According to you they cant.

Now listen Benny, are you seriously telling me that Silverbridge and maybe Mullaghbawn are closer to Crossmaglen than Bessbrook.  Check your sat nav - I will be!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 23, 2013, 01:30:16 AM
http://www.stpaulsbessbrook.org/pastoral/admissions-policy/

Here's their admissions policy, if any of you are really that bothered about who attends St. Paul's then read away at it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 23, 2013, 02:58:38 AM
Fair play to you line ball Never let the facts get in the way of a good story. This is how it works Kids from Culloville Crossmaglen Silverbridge Mullaghban and part of Forkhill go to Cross. They aren't allowed to go to Bessbrook. Bessbrook can only take kids from its catchment area. In the same way that St Marks Warrenpoint couldn't take a kid from Newry When it comes to A levels or the equivalent kids from the areas I mentioned can opt to go to Bessbrook as the range of A level or equivalent courses available in Cross is limited. As I understand it kids wishing to go to Bessbrook to do A levels or equivalent must have the relevant results unlike for instance St Colmans or ithe Abbey who will accept good footballers for A level regardless of exam results.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 10:46:17 AM
Quote from: AFS on March 23, 2013, 12:54:21 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
All those areas bar Cullaville are as handy to St Pauls as to Cross & if within the same 'boundary' you're free to choose, just like a Newry nuck could choose between Abbey, Colmans or St Marys if they all adopted the all-ability ethos. There's a list of criteria on the DE website if you're interested.

It would certainly be interesting if a young fella passed over the Abbey or the College in favour of St. Mary's.
I'd say that encapsulates  the reasons that Comrade Boots & the boys hope to level the playing field & that kids are sent to their closest school (amongst equally resourced all-ability schools, where Grammars no longer exist). It'll never happen.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orchardman on March 23, 2013, 11:00:01 AM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 23, 2013, 01:00:34 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
All those areas bar Cullaville are as handy to St Pauls as to Cross & if within the same 'boundary' you're free to choose, just like a Newry nuck could choose between Abbey, Colmans or St Marys if they all adopted the all-ability ethos. There's a list of criteria on the DE website if you're interested.

So kids from Crosssmaglen can 'select'  to go to Bessbrook.  According to you they cant.

Now listen Benny, are you seriously telling me that Silverbridge and maybe Mullaghbawn are closer to Crossmaglen than Bessbrook.  Check your sat nav - I will be!

what are you on about lineball, of course silverbridge  is much closer to cross, have you got a clue at all. Mullaghbawn would be closer to mid way between the schools
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 23, 2013, 11:12:53 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 22, 2013, 09:33:16 PM
Thats the way the Education system is supposed to work now that the Catholic Church has deemed Grammars obselete & all schools are to go down the non-selective route, you go to the school nearest you. Wether that'll ever happen is another question entirely. St Pat's Grammar in Armagh  is to go all-ability from September & it's hoped that they will act as a catalyst to spur other schools to follow.

Have to say this is the most childish thread i've read in a long time, full of nonsense.
Would I be right in thinking that less kids from Keady transfer to Armagh since Keady got its new school. If this is the case is it fair to assume that falling enrolment would also have been a factor in St Pats decision?  By the way I agree that there's a lot of uninformed nonsense being posted on this thread
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 12:30:47 PM
I wouldn't know too much about it nowadays to be honest, but Keady would have had a big impact alrite i'd imagine. When i was at St Pats we'd bigger numbers from the Portadown & Lurgan areas.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 23, 2013, 04:51:34 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 10:46:17 AM
Quote from: AFS on March 23, 2013, 12:54:21 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
All those areas bar Cullaville are as handy to St Pauls as to Cross & if within the same 'boundary' you're free to choose, just like a Newry nuck could choose between Abbey, Colmans or St Marys if they all adopted the all-ability ethos. There's a list of criteria on the DE website if you're interested.

It would certainly be interesting if a young fella passed over the Abbey or the College in favour of St. Mary's.
I'd say that encapsulates  the reasons that Comrade Boots & the boys hope to level the playing field & that kids are sent to their closest school (amongst equally resourced all-ability schools, where Grammars no longer exist). It'll never happen.

I think he was being sarcastic Benny as St. Mary's is an all girls school. The male equivalent in Newry would be St. Joseph's.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 06:30:32 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 23, 2013, 04:51:34 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 10:46:17 AM
Quote from: AFS on March 23, 2013, 12:54:21 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
All those areas bar Cullaville are as handy to St Pauls as to Cross & if within the same 'boundary' you're free to choose, just like a Newry nuck could choose between Abbey, Colmans or St Marys if they all adopted the all-ability ethos. There's a list of criteria on the DE website if you're interested.

It would certainly be interesting if a young fella passed over the Abbey or the College in favour of St. Mary's.
I'd say that encapsulates  the reasons that Comrade Boots & the boys hope to level the playing field & that kids are sent to their closest school (amongst equally resourced all-ability schools, where Grammars no longer exist). It'll never happen.

I think he was being sarcastic Benny as St. Mary's is an all girls school. The male equivalent in Newry would be St. Joseph's.
My bad. St Josephs & St Marys days as separate entities are probably numbered too.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 23, 2013, 06:38:10 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 06:30:32 PM

My bad. St Josephs & St Marys days as separate entities are probably numbered too.

Ideally they would be the one school, but I can't see any change in the near future as there's not really any real need for it.
St. Joe's caters for around 400 11-16 year old pupils whilst I'd guess St. Mary's has similar if not higher numbers and also offers A levels. If both were to amalgamate then a new site would be needed for a start as both are at opposite ends of Newry.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 23, 2013, 07:53:14 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on March 23, 2013, 06:45:40 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 23, 2013, 06:38:10 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2013, 06:30:32 PM

My bad. St Josephs & St Marys days as separate entities are probably numbered too.

Ideally they would be the one school, but I can't see any change in the near future as there's not really any real need for it.
St. Joe's caters for around 400 11-16 year old pupils whilst I'd guess St. Mary's has similar if not higher numbers and also offers A levels. If both were to amalgamate then a new site would be needed for a start as both are at opposite ends of Newry.
Split site Years 8-10 in one and Years 11-14 in another?

As I've said already, there's no real need for it. Both schools are achieving well as they are and have a steady stream of pupils each year so numbers aren't an issue.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on March 30, 2013, 05:04:49 PM
A new competition the Eamon Coleman cup will take place at late April consisting of the Markey and McRory winners, tis organised by UUJ
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: AFS on March 30, 2013, 05:06:09 PM
St. Michael's well beat by St. Attracta's in the B semi final. 3-10 to 0-7.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on March 30, 2013, 05:07:07 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 30, 2013, 05:06:09 PM
St. Michael's well beat by St. Attracta's in the B semi final. 3-10 to 0-7.

Imagine getting beat by a team called St.Attracta's?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 30, 2013, 05:12:40 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on March 30, 2013, 05:04:49 PM
A new competition the Eamon Coleman cup will take place at late April consisting of the Markey and McRory winners, tis organised by UUJ

Good idea, allows the vocational winners a chance to prove how good they are given the lack of media attention it receives in comparison to college football.

St. Mark's Warrenpoint are in the u16 All Ireland final next week too. They've a great record at that level, think they've won 4 or 5 All Ireland's in the past.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 30, 2013, 05:15:44 PM
Schools Results Today
AI PP Senior C Football Final - St Augustines Dungarvan 2-8 Scoil Mhuire Strokestown 0-10

AI Col Senior A Football Semi-Finals - St.Patrick's Classical School Navan 2-07 Pobalscoil Chorca Dhuibhne 0-11;
St.Pat's Maghera 3-08 v St.Gerald's Castlebar 1-07

AI PP Senior B Football Semi-Finals - St.Attracta's Tubbercurry 3-10 St.Michael's Lurgan 0-07;
Our Lady's Templemore 1-11 Naas CBS 0-7

AI Voc Sch A Football Semi-Finals - Cnoc Mhuire Granard 1-07 Clonakilty Community College 0-9;
Holy Trinity Cookstown 2-12 Davitt College Castlebar 1-06
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on March 30, 2013, 05:28:14 PM
Video - see a cracking goal by Conor Glass in today's Masita All Ireland Colleges Semi for St Patrick's Maghera http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_Auy7kBRlg&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_Auy7kBRlg&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: T Fearon on March 30, 2013, 05:31:13 PM
If Clonakilty had won their Voc semi,would the Final with Cookstown have been the Black Pudding v Sausages Final? ;D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on March 30, 2013, 05:39:21 PM
A fry-up Final?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on March 30, 2013, 05:40:18 PM
Sounds like a 'meaty' final if it happened
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Jinxy on March 30, 2013, 05:45:03 PM
Quote from: Any craic on March 30, 2013, 05:28:14 PM
Video - see a cracking goal by Conor Glass in today's Masita All Ireland Colleges Semi for St Patrick's Maghera http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_Auy7kBRlg&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_Auy7kBRlg&feature=youtu.be)

All the mammies in the crowd going bananas.  ;D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on March 30, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
See another brilliant Maghera goal here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on March 30, 2013, 05:50:31 PM
Quote from: Any craic on March 30, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
See another brilliant Maghera goal here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be)


Some goal.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on March 30, 2013, 05:53:31 PM
Quote from: orangeman on March 30, 2013, 05:50:31 PM
Quote from: Any craic on March 30, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
See another brilliant Maghera goal here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be)


Some goal.

Class.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 30, 2013, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on March 30, 2013, 05:53:31 PM
Quote from: orangeman on March 30, 2013, 05:50:31 PM
Quote from: Any craic on March 30, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
See another brilliant Maghera goal here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be)


Some goal.

Class.

Aye he's not a bad player  :D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Jinxy on March 30, 2013, 05:56:36 PM
The Navan lads will have his card marked.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on March 30, 2013, 05:56:49 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 30, 2013, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on March 30, 2013, 05:53:31 PM
Quote from: orangeman on March 30, 2013, 05:50:31 PM
Quote from: Any craic on March 30, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
See another brilliant Maghera goal here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKbiw0-g1o&feature=youtu.be)


Some goal.

Not one of yours but is he not?? Is he from up the hill?

Class.

Aye he's not a bad player  :D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on March 30, 2013, 05:57:16 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on March 30, 2013, 05:56:36 PM
The Navan lads will have his card marked.

Blame Jerome!!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on March 30, 2013, 06:06:25 PM
All 3 goals from today's Holy Trinity Cookstown v Castlebar Masita All Ireland Vocational Schools Semi-final are coming up too - a double for Ulster Schools over Castlebar at Enniskillen with Maghera also winning
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 30, 2013, 06:12:50 PM
Any word on the final date? So is the Colleges A and B final along with the U18 Vocational Final all played on the same day??
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 30, 2013, 06:27:44 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 30, 2013, 06:12:50 PM
Any word on the final date? So is the Colleges A and B final along with the U18 Vocational Final all played on the same day??
Colleges A and the Vocational final are usually a double header. The B final won by St Paul's last year was played in Cavan before the AI Club final replay.
I'd imagine the final is in 2 weeks time though I haven't heard for definite.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on March 30, 2013, 06:42:14 PM
Video: See all 3 goals from today's Masita GAA All Ireland Vocational Schools Semi at Enniskillen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1IKFKmSC6A&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1IKFKmSC6A&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 30, 2013, 06:48:46 PM
Quote from: ranch on March 30, 2013, 06:27:44 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 30, 2013, 06:12:50 PM
Any word on the final date? So is the Colleges A and B final along with the U18 Vocational Final all played on the same day??
Colleges A and the Vocational final are usually a double header. The B final won by St Paul's last year was played in Cavan before the AI Club final replay.
I'd imagine the final is in 2 weeks time though I haven't heard for definite.

Cheers Ranch! Nice touch from Bessbrook wishing Maghera all the best today!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 31, 2013, 09:01:44 PM
UUJ have lunched the Eamon Coleman trophy where the MacRory winners play the Vocational winners each year. Having watched both games yesterday St Pats would walk away with it, thought their was a big difference in physical size and quality
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 31, 2013, 09:26:39 PM
Well done to both teams for getting to their finals.

Can't see nothing but a Maghera win in this game.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 31, 2013, 10:28:01 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on March 31, 2013, 10:15:25 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 31, 2013, 09:01:44 PM
UUJ have lunched the Eamon Coleman trophy where the MacRory winners play the Vocational winners each year. Having watched both games yesterday St Pats would walk away with it, thought their was a big difference in physical size and quality
In my experience I would agree that the better MacRory Cup teams (at least) would be better than those at the top of the Markey Cup. Teams in the latter don't normally have the time or resources to engage in a regime that MacRory Cup teams usually can and there is less emphasis on physical strength & conditioning with more on skill & drills. However I would regard the Markey Cup as a slightly better standard than the McLaron Cup. The better old VS Intercounty teams (there's still an Ulster provincial competition) however would certainly match those in the MacRory Cup.

Yeah I would agree that Mac Rory isn't always the best standard of football. It tends to be a war of attrition with physical size of premium importance. Perhaps the time of year doesnt lend itself to expansive football. Ulster teams do tend to play better when the shackles are off in the Hogan. Thought the double winning Colmans side played a nice brand of football.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 31, 2013, 10:30:41 PM
Although there is always one exception to every rule,  I thought that he Holy Trinity Team last year was exceptional, would have held its own on the MacRory. Devlin and McNulty at midfield, Mullan and Cassidy in defense, Mc Geary and Mc Gahan up front
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 31, 2013, 10:32:54 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 31, 2013, 10:30:41 PM
Although there is always one exception to every rule,  I thought that he Holy Trinity Team last year was exceptional, would have held its own on the MacRory. Devlin and McNulty at midfield, Mullan and Cassidy in defense, Mc Geary and Mc Gahan up front

Was Michael Cassidy from Ardboe in that side last year? Talented lad!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on March 31, 2013, 11:13:59 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on March 31, 2013, 07:42:36 PM
Unlike in Co. Armagh, the VS GAA sector in Tyrone has been fairly well run (if you excuse the screw up in venues for this year's county U14 & U16 finals), and is of a good competitive standard in general. The likes of HTC or St. Ciaran's Ballygawley would perhaps find little benefit to switch bodies, especially as Holy Cross Strabane and SWC Omagh have not really done much since they switched themselves.

Yeah I actually referred to the lack of organisation within Armagh VS on here a few weeks ago. Down run their VS competitions pretty well too.
I'm not saying I think they should enter colleges football either but from what I've seen this year I certainly think they're as good, if not better, than Lurgan who won the MacLarnon. I've always enjoyed VS myself, it deserves more recognition.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Winnie Peg on April 01, 2013, 11:16:31 AM
What is the difference between a vocational school and a college/ grammar school? are holy Trinity School Cookstown ans Bessbrook not the same type of school? Why can there not be one for all?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: dec on April 01, 2013, 08:40:02 PM
Who is the only player to win a MacRory cup medal and a Champions League/European Cup medal (hint, it's not Socrates)?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rodney trotter on April 01, 2013, 08:43:02 PM
Martin O Neill?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2013, 09:15:16 PM
I presume that's correct as he won 2 with forest, and had played for the derry minors, i take it Maghera won the cup on a year he was there
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 01, 2013, 09:21:18 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2013, 09:15:16 PM
I presume that's correct as he won 2 with forest, and had played for the derry minors, i take it Maghera won the cup on a year he was there

did he not do to st.Columbs in Derry ?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: NP 76 on April 01, 2013, 09:21:43 PM
No I think it was when he was boarding at st Malachys belfast that he won it
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: oakleaflad on April 01, 2013, 09:22:48 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 01, 2013, 09:21:18 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2013, 09:15:16 PM
I presume that's correct as he won 2 with forest, and had played for the derry minors, i take it Maghera won the cup on a year he was there

did he not do to st.Columbs in Derry ?
I think he did Hoof
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 01, 2013, 09:52:03 PM
O'Neill went to both St Columbs Derry and St Malachys Belfast. Won the Mac Rory at the latter!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 01, 2013, 11:49:13 PM
St Malachys it is, G am doing work at the school there, even looked at the photo on the main corridor the other week, old memory is going
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on April 12, 2013, 01:38:40 PM
See a short music video insert that will be shown at tonight's Danske Bank Ulster Colleges All Stars banquet at the Europa Hotel in Belfast. There are images from the whole season mixed with comments and a little bit of Bruce Springsteen... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqDD8QqBnrM&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqDD8QqBnrM&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 13, 2013, 01:54:53 PM
thats no yellow card in the vocational schools game against holy trinity, led to the man been sent off with 2 yellows
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Jinxy on April 13, 2013, 02:57:54 PM
Good win for Granard.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Celt_Man on April 13, 2013, 03:00:46 PM
No red card at all for that young fella from Cookstown at the end.  No need to do that to a young fella with the last action of a All Ireland Final
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rodney trotter on April 13, 2013, 03:47:53 PM
Good win for Granard and the Cavan lads involved.

The full forward for Maghera O'Hara is some size, good player. T
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 13, 2013, 04:18:52 PM
game over, great goal
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: outinfront on April 13, 2013, 04:33:16 PM
who won?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 13, 2013, 04:41:01 PM
Maghera by 10, 1.20 to 1.10 at the finish i think
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: outinfront on April 13, 2013, 04:42:51 PM
thanks
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 13, 2013, 04:58:06 PM
How many Maghera players will be on the Derry minor team this summer?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 13, 2013, 05:06:11 PM
i had hear roughly 10 starters and 4/5 subs on the panel i believe
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Aerlik on April 13, 2013, 05:20:02 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Just been on to the nephew on Skype who was watching the game and giving me an update.  Absolutely delighted for Maghera, especially in this, the school's 50th. anniversary. 

National Champions....

Can't get better than that.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on April 13, 2013, 05:51:56 PM
Maghera by far the better team.

Cookstown could so nearly have made it an Ulster double.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: OakLeaf on April 13, 2013, 06:17:38 PM
Great performance from Maghera. Very strong all over the field.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Jimmy on April 13, 2013, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 13, 2013, 04:58:06 PM
How many Maghera players will be on the Derry minor team this summer?

From what I know numbers 1 2 3 4 5 7 12 13 14 and 15 are all minor this year as well as a number of the subs.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on April 13, 2013, 07:59:09 PM
Great performance by Maghera, saved their best till the AI final. The kick passing and score taking was top drawer and it was a great all round team performance though Tallon's goal was the decisive one effectively finishing the game as a contest. I'd say today was the day that Maghera finally stepped out of the shadow of Adrian McGuckin who practically built it into the football academy it is today. Has anyone actually checked Conor Glass birth certificate, hard to believe that lad is 15.

Only seen the 2nd half of the curtain raiser but it looked like Cookstown left themselves too much to do.

Does anyone know the craic about Maghera playing Cookstown in a memorial game for Eamon Coleman? Seems a bit pointless, there is a fairly distinct difference in the standard of football though I suspect it will be treated as more of an exhibition match.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on April 15, 2013, 03:46:09 PM
Heres a video report from yesterday's All Ireland Final in Navan, Dungarvan v St Mary's Belfast - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaRXlaSGInY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaRXlaSGInY)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on April 16, 2013, 10:22:28 AM
No report from the Hogan game at the weekend 'any craic'

Seriously good performance from St Pats at the weekend. Top football from a very good group of footballers. There start was important, with some great scores, but Navan came back at Maghera after half time with a goal to take their lead down to 3 pts, St Pats hit two points and Navan responded with 2 pts of their own to take back to a 3 point game again, and at this stage they pushed hard, but Maghera then hit a gl and point within three minutes to put 7 in it, game over.

This performance has been coming. In the semi final of the MacRory against Colemens they had a 4 point lead over the two games 3 times but did not push on because St Pats were not playing as a true team at that stage, some players took a while to learn how important it is not to be individuals. You could see that aspect of their play developing in the Hogan semi final, with them eventually getting it right on the biggest stage for them. Congratulations St Patricks Maghera, Hogan Champions 2013 for the fifth time.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on April 16, 2013, 12:20:22 PM
Sure it was Live on TG4 Rawhide, you don't need me!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Count 10 on April 16, 2013, 09:08:25 PM
Congrats to Maghera, hats off to all involved.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on April 26, 2013, 04:50:39 PM
See St Killian's Garron Tower winning goal by Fergus McCambridge vs St Pat's Maghera in this afternoon's Danske Bank Forester's Cup Final in Ballymena: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e_Hlie8EpY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e_Hlie8EpY)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on April 26, 2013, 10:41:56 PM
Tasty point here by Sambo's lad Christy from today's Danske Bank Foresters Final https://vimeo.com/64919281 (https://vimeo.com/64919281)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on April 27, 2013, 01:40:52 PM
Tiarnan McHugh hits the net for St Patricks Maghera in today's Danske Bank Dalton Cup Final: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnKkg--_IdA&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnKkg--_IdA&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on April 27, 2013, 08:53:57 PM
Now and again you come across a young lad like this.. the size of nothing but big in heart, devillment and craic - 'We were messing about but we got our heads in the right place' - St Pats Maghera star man Ciaran Hendry after his team went from 8 down at half-time to hold the Convent scoreless and win by 5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Altklggu6-c&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Altklggu6-c&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on May 06, 2013, 07:34:15 PM
Bit of a thriller today in the Danske Bank Brock Cup Final at Emyvale, with the Academy Dungannon scoring this penalty right at the end to force extra-time. They beat Cavan in the end. http://t.co/qDeBlpE5qR (http://t.co/qDeBlpE5qR)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: armaghniac on July 16, 2013, 09:17:53 PM
QuoteI see St. Ciaran's Ballygawley

Is there football around Ballygawley at all?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on July 23, 2013, 08:23:23 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on July 16, 2013, 07:04:48 PM
I see St. Ciaran's Ballygawley and the Holy Trinity Cookstown have opted to enter the Colleges competitions from this September. St. Ciaran's will take part in the MacRory Cup while HTC will enter the MacLaron.

Edit: Also the winners of the MacLaron and Markey Cups in 2014 will play-off against each other with the winner representing Ulster in the All-Ireland Senior Colleges "B" competition.

Taken from Ulster Colleges website


St Ciaran's Ballygawley join race for MacRory Cup

July 5, 2013

Colleges' Football 2013-4

St Ciaran's Ballygawley have been accepted as a late entry into the Danske Bank Ulster Colleges' MacRory Cup at the Council's fixtures' meeting at the weekend.

Their inclusion along with the announcement in June that last season's Rannafast Cup winners St Patrick's Cavan and MacLarnon champions St Michael's Lurgan has expanded the MacRory Cup competition to 13 schools – the largest ever entry.

St Ciaran's addition to Group B along with St Paul's Bessbrook, the other two Tyrone schools (Omagh CBS and St Patrick's Academy), Lurgan, St Macartan's and St Mary's Magherafelt means that the bottom team in this group after the league section in the autumn term will be the only team eliminated pre-Christmas.

The top two teams from each group will automatically qualify for the quarter-final draw, while the rest of the finishing positions will trigger 4 play-offs – A3 v B6, A4 v B5, A5 v B4 and A6 v B3.

St Ciaran's head coach Martin McElkennon admitted that the new arrangements for second level schools' GAA announced at the start of June had prompted their move from Vocationals' Markey Cup into the MacRory.

"Obviously the Vocational Schools' system has served us very well over the years.  We have been able through the under-age competitions and Markey Cup to provide our students with a good standard of football and the opportunity to play in regional, provincial and national finals."

"However following the re-organisation at All-Ireland level and the implications for Ulster schools in general, we have decided that the Colleges' system now offers us the best vehicle for developing our teams this year."

Under the new structure, the Markey Cup winners will have to play the MacLarnon champions to reach the All-Ireland B series.

"We feel that the Colleges' system allows us to bed down better within the new structure.  We have entered Grade B competitions at all the other age-groups, but we aspire to play at Grade A level through the age-groups and can move up where and when we feel our players will benefit."

Another Tyrone Vocational school, last season's Markey Cup champions and All-Ireland Vocational schools' finalists Holy Trinity Cookstown, has also opted to compete in Ulster Colleges' competitions – but at B level right through the age-groups.

Head coach Peter Canavan feels that their MacLarnon Cup draw is almost as tough as the MacRory programme.

"We have drawn St Eunan's Letterkenny, St Pius X and St Mary's CBGS Belfast.  That is a very strong group of schools that all move regularly between the A and B competitions."

There are 4 groups of 4 teams in the Danske Bank MacLarnon Cup with the top team in each group going through to the quarter-finals and the second and third placed teams in each facing play-off games to provide the other 4 quarter-finalists.

"There is a huge challenge awaiting us just to make it through to the quarter-finals," claims Canavan, who has only "8 or 9" of the Markey Cup squad back next season.

"We will need to work very hard in preparation for each of the 4 games in the autumn term and then see where that takes us."

Holy Trinity's first game under the Colleges' umbrella is due during the second week of the new term when they play St Joseph's Crossmaglen in the Danske Bank Herald Cup while St Ciaran's are in action a week later in the same competition against St Patrick's Downpatrick.

Fixtures for all Ulster Colleges' fixtures can be found on the organisation's facebook page
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: superbad on October 11, 2013, 10:04:56 PM
Does anyone know if any MacRory games are taking place tomorrow?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: 5 Sams on October 11, 2013, 10:15:43 PM
Abbey and the College in the Marshes at 11 afaik.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: superbad on October 11, 2013, 10:21:50 PM
Thanks 5 Sams. Who are the big hitters?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on October 14, 2013, 08:08:10 AM
Shorty trainors son hits 2-8 for the abbey as they beat the college by 4
Seems to have had some game, also saw that DJ Kane son scored for the cbs
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on October 14, 2013, 05:21:06 PM
Wasn't a great game, a lot of passing errors. Came down to which main forward had the better day. Turned out to be the Abbey lad who just wasn't marshelled as well as the College lad. Although the Abbey player was very accurate and put over some super points. Don't know if either team had key players missing or not.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: superbad on October 14, 2013, 07:51:29 PM
Good result for the Abbey. I see there are a few games down for tomorrow. Enniskillen V Cavan. Lurgan V Ballygawley and Monaghan V Magherafelt.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Worker on October 15, 2013, 12:14:31 PM
Ballygawley beat Lurgan 4-12 to 3-11, high scoring affair.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Under Lights on October 15, 2013, 12:41:09 PM
Quote from: The Worker on October 15, 2013, 12:14:31 PM
Ballygawley beat Lurgan 4-12 to 3-11, high scoring affair.

Pauric McAnenly with three goals for SCC.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Itchy on October 15, 2013, 11:05:49 PM
Enniskillen v Cavan was abandoned due to power failure! Cavan were two points up, think there was around 20mins played. What happens now, start game again from scratch?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnneycool on October 16, 2013, 03:20:17 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 15, 2013, 11:05:49 PM
Enniskillen v Cavan was abandoned due to power failure! Cavan were two points up, think there was around 20mins played. What happens now, start game again from scratch?

I heard a Malaysian betting syndicate was behind it, big money laid in the far east for the game not finishing.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on October 17, 2013, 12:07:39 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 16, 2013, 03:20:17 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 15, 2013, 11:05:49 PM
Enniskillen v Cavan was abandoned due to power failure! Cavan were two points up, think there was around 20mins played. What happens now, start game again from scratch?

I heard a Malaysian betting syndicate was behind it, big money laid in the far east for the game not finishing.

In Ardglass?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnneycool on October 17, 2013, 03:15:06 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 17, 2013, 12:07:39 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on October 16, 2013, 03:20:17 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 15, 2013, 11:05:49 PM
Enniskillen v Cavan was abandoned due to power failure! Cavan were two points up, think there was around 20mins played. What happens now, start game again from scratch?

I heard a Malaysian betting syndicate was behind it, big money laid in the far east for the game not finishing.

In Ardglass?

Further east than Ardglass.

Cloughey.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: superbad on October 17, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
I see on the Ulster Colleges twitter a few of next weeks MacRory games. One question, why are so many during the school day? What happened to the traditional Saturday morning slot. I think it takes it away from the competition. Any games this Saturday?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on October 17, 2013, 11:59:44 PM
Quote from: superbad on October 17, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
I see on the Ulster Colleges twitter a few of next weeks MacRory games. One question, why are so many during the school day? What happened to the traditional Saturday morning slot. I think it takes it away from the competition. Any games this Saturday?

Teachers doing everything possible to get out of school, leaving others to cover classes  :(
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 07:34:40 PM
Quote from: superbad on October 17, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
I see on the Ulster Colleges twitter a few of next weeks MacRory games. One question, why are so many during the school day? What happened to the traditional Saturday morning slot. I think it takes it away from the competition. Any games this Saturday?

I'd say that since the likes of Ray Morgan and Adrian Mc Guckian have retired that the new breed of teachers just aren't prepared to give their time on a Saturday the way it used to be.  Years ago all football was played on a Saturday but now apart from MacRory all other football is played during the week according to the fixtures and results on the Ulster Colleges twitter and facebook.  There are also new schools coming into the colleges who probably dont want to play on a Saturday either.

Do the teachers get paid for taking teams on a Saturday? 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on October 18, 2013, 08:15:50 PM
Would say you probably aren't fair wrong with teachers not wanting to do Saturdays
When I played school football in the 80s corn an nog, rannafast and mac Rory all were on a Saturday .
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 08:58:38 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 07:34:40 PM
Quote from: superbad on October 17, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
I see on the Ulster Colleges twitter a few of next weeks MacRory games. One question, why are so many during the school day? What happened to the traditional Saturday morning slot. I think it takes it away from the competition. Any games this Saturday?

I'd say that since the likes of Ray Morgan and Adrian Mc Guckian have retired that the new breed of teachers just aren't prepared to give their time on a Saturday the way it used to be.  Years ago all football was played on a Saturday but now apart from MacRory all other football is played during the week according to the fixtures and results on the Ulster Colleges twitter and facebook.  There are also new schools coming into the colleges who probably dont want to play on a Saturday either.

Do the teachers get paid for taking teams on a Saturday?

They get extra money for taking the teams (a point) having them during the week is difficult to get referees to do the games
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 09:51:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 08:58:38 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 07:34:40 PM
Quote from: superbad on October 17, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
I see on the Ulster Colleges twitter a few of next weeks MacRory games. One question, why are so many during the school day? What happened to the traditional Saturday morning slot. I think it takes it away from the competition. Any games this Saturday?

I'd say that since the likes of Ray Morgan and Adrian Mc Guckian have retired that the new breed of teachers just aren't prepared to give their time on a Saturday the way it used to be.  Years ago all football was played on a Saturday but now apart from MacRory all other football is played during the week according to the fixtures and results on the Ulster Colleges twitter and facebook.  There are also new schools coming into the colleges who probably dont want to play on a Saturday either.

Do the teachers get paid for taking teams on a Saturday?

They get extra money for taking the teams (a point) having them during the week is difficult to get referees to do the games

I never knew that.  Is it any wonder that they want to play games on a Saturday if they are getting a few pound for it.  How much money do they get and is this the norm across all schools in the North?  People give out so much about paying men to coach club teams and the same is going on in schools.  I can't believe all schools do this.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 09:55:56 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 09:51:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 08:58:38 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 07:34:40 PM
Quote from: superbad on October 17, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
I see on the Ulster Colleges twitter a few of next weeks MacRory games. One question, why are so many during the school day? What happened to the traditional Saturday morning slot. I think it takes it away from the competition. Any games this Saturday?

I'd say that since the likes of Ray Morgan and Adrian Mc Guckian have retired that the new breed of teachers just aren't prepared to give their time on a Saturday the way it used to be.  Years ago all football was played on a Saturday but now apart from MacRory all other football is played during the week according to the fixtures and results on the Ulster Colleges twitter and facebook.  There are also new schools coming into the colleges who probably dont want to play on a Saturday either.

Do the teachers get paid for taking teams on a Saturday?

They get extra money for taking the teams (a point) having them during the week is difficult to get referees to do the games

I never knew that.  Is it any wonder that they want to play games on a Saturday if they are getting a few pound for it.  How much money do they get and is this the norm across all schools in the North?  People give out so much about paying men to coach club teams and the same is going on in schools.  I can't believe all schools do this.

Most schools give a 'point' to teachers who take extra curricular activities outside school hours, the sum depends on their rate of pay, other teachers on here could give you the exact payment I'd say. Is it around £1800?

If I taught at a secondary school I'd love to do it, and if it meant you could do it during the working week I'd be all over it
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: superbad on October 18, 2013, 10:00:46 PM
I know for a fact that teachers in the Abbey and colmans do not get paid for taking teams. Its part of the job. I doubt if any schools pay this. How could they differentiate between people who take football, camogie, choirs etc. The list is endless
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on October 18, 2013, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: superbad on October 18, 2013, 10:00:46 PM
I know for a fact that teachers in the Abbey and colmans do not get paid for taking teams. Its part of the job. I doubt if any schools pay this. How could they differentiate between people who take football, camogie, choirs etc. The list is endless

Same with St Pats Maghera
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 10:16:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 09:55:56 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 09:51:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 08:58:38 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 07:34:40 PM
Quote from: superbad on October 17, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
I see on the Ulster Colleges twitter a few of next weeks MacRory games. One question, why are so many during the school day? What happened to the traditional Saturday morning slot. I think it takes it away from the competition. Any games this Saturday?

I'd say that since the likes of Ray Morgan and Adrian Mc Guckian have retired that the new breed of teachers just aren't prepared to give their time on a Saturday the way it used to be.  Years ago all football was played on a Saturday but now apart from MacRory all other football is played during the week according to the fixtures and results on the Ulster Colleges twitter and facebook.  There are also new schools coming into the colleges who probably dont want to play on a Saturday either.

Do the teachers get paid for taking teams on a Saturday?

They get extra money for taking the teams (a point) having them during the week is difficult to get referees to do the games

I never knew that.  Is it any wonder that they want to play games on a Saturday if they are getting a few pound for it.  How much money do they get and is this the norm across all schools in the North?  People give out so much about paying men to coach club teams and the same is going on in schools.  I can't believe all schools do this.

Most schools give a 'point' to teachers who take extra curricular activities outside school hours, the sum depends on their rate of pay, other teachers on here could give you the exact payment I'd say. Is it around £1800?

If I taught at a secondary school I'd love to do it, and if it meant you could do it during the working week I'd be all over it

£1800 on top of their teachers salary for training a team after school. Not bad work if you can get it.  Is this for every team in schools?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 10:27:06 PM
Quote from: superbad on October 18, 2013, 10:00:46 PM
I know for a fact that teachers in the Abbey and colmans do not get paid for taking teams. Its part of the job. I doubt if any schools pay this. How could they differentiate between people who take football, camogie, choirs etc. The list is endless

I know that teachers get money for it, my wife got half a point for taking the badminton team ffs, 12 games a year. How do you know for a fact?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:29:41 PM
Leeches.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 10:36:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:29:41 PM
Leeches.

Tell them they get money for it as a extra curricular activity ffs. It's no big deal and a lot cheaper than bringing in a coach
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:39:48 PM
Would she not do it if she wasn't getting half a point?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 10:47:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 10:36:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:29:41 PM
Leeches.

Tell them they get money for it as a extra curricular activity ffs. It's no big deal and a lot cheaper than bringing in a coach

£1800 is alot of coaching for any team, never mind a school team.  And if you have 4 or 5 football teams, hurling teams, camogie and then many other sports that is some amount of money a school has to pay out.  if people were doubling up with hurling and football they would be on a nice wee earner.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:08:43 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:39:48 PM
Would she not do it if she wasn't getting half a point?

She did it cause she was asked, the point was a bonus. She hasn't taken the team in years now, as it wasn't worth (not monetary terms) the hassle, anyone taking the teams in schools deserves the point should they get one. You normally get extra money in any job for doing extra work, as far as I'm aware
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:11:41 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 10:47:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 10:36:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:29:41 PM
Leeches.

Tell them they get money for it as a extra curricular activity ffs. It's no big deal and a lot cheaper than bringing in a coach

£1800 is alot of coaching for any team, never mind a school team.  And if you have 4 or 5 football teams, hurling teams, camogie and then many other sports that is some amount of money a school has to pay out.  if people were doubling up with hurling and football they would be on a nice wee earner.

I doubt you will be doubling up, I'm not sure of the money, for some reason that's in my head, again O'Neill could tell you better
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Minder on October 18, 2013, 11:15:38 PM
My mate teaches and takes hurling teams and doesent get any extra points.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 11:17:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:08:43 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:39:48 PM
Would she not do it if she wasn't getting half a point?

She did it cause she was asked, the point was a bonus. She hasn't taken the team in years now, as it wasn't worth (not monetary terms) the hassle, anyone taking the teams in schools deserves the point should they get one. You normally get extra money in any job for doing extra work, as far as I'm aware

I'd have turned the point (or half) down and told them to spend the money on books.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: stalwart on October 18, 2013, 11:18:13 PM
Begrudgery at its best, rugby / state schools give the Wednesday afternoon for extra curricular activities and they get up on 4 points for it.brian mc Laughlin ex ulster coach used to coach inst or rabai and was on a ransom. Do the nay Sayers on this board expect people to coach Gaelic games in school for nothing when other teachers get paid for promoting economic awareness in an after schools lesson?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on October 18, 2013, 11:26:59 PM
Is it any wonder why some of these men I know do little for their clubs when they are getting all this money from their schools.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:27:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 18, 2013, 11:15:38 PM
My mate teaches and takes hurling teams and doesent get any extra points.

Did he tell them to spend the money on the books?

Quote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 11:17:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:08:43 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:39:48 PM
Would she not do it if she wasn't getting half a point?

She did it cause she was asked, the point was a bonus. She hasn't taken the team in years now, as it wasn't worth (not monetary terms) the hassle, anyone taking the teams in schools deserves the point should they get one. You normally get extra money in any job for doing extra work, as far as I'm aware

I'd have turned the point (or half) down and told them to spend the money on books.

That's great, do the teachers get paid a point in your school for doing extra work?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 11:31:17 PM
No.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LeoMc on October 18, 2013, 11:41:13 PM
Quote from: The Worker on October 15, 2013, 12:14:31 PM
Ballygawley beat Lurgan 4-12 to 3-11, high scoring affair.
When did St Ciarans move up?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:51:43 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 11:31:17 PM
No.

No points available for any extra curricular work? That's great, was this always the case? Why do some schools still give the points when others don't.  My mate takes the careers work in the school and she gets an extra 2 points for that
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Cromagh on October 19, 2013, 12:47:02 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2013, 11:08:43 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 18, 2013, 10:39:48 PM
Would she not do it if she wasn't getting half a point?

She did it cause she was asked, the point was a bonus. She hasn't taken the team in years now, as it wasn't worth (not monetary terms) the hassle, anyone taking the teams in schools deserves the point should they get one. You normally get extra money in any job for doing extra work, as far as I'm aware

Mil town you talk some shit........I'm a teacher working heavily with teams in our school. NOBODY gets paid a point or extra money for taking teams. It's part of our job. Some people get involved. Some don't. There is no monetary reward. Only ones who gain financially from school games are the refs and clubs who provide the pitch.

Some schools have a person who is in charge of extra curricular provision in their school and get a point. For this money, that person arranges all matches, piches, refs, for all sports in that school. From my experience that's a lot of work involved. But I know No school where people get paid extra to take teams.........

Your creating a fair bit of controversy recently......
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2013, 09:16:16 AM
I know teachers get extra money for extra curricular work. I gave an example of my wife getting paid. If your school doesn't give money then it doesn't mean others dont.

So what's with the last point of your post?? Controversy? piss off ffs You're having a laugh
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on October 19, 2013, 10:12:36 AM
Maghera St Patricks v Armagh St Patricks

Omagh CBS v Bessbrook St Pauls
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rionach 4 on October 19, 2013, 03:20:41 PM
In the school I teach in one person receives a point for organising all school teams . He is in charge of all that is to do with the organising of pitches coaches referees etc. That is his post of responsibility . There are upwards on eight teams at different grades. We all coach teams at various levels and  we do it for the good of the pupils school and the game that we love. School management see gaelic games as a very integral part of school life and for the holistic education of the pupils. One point for a teacher to co-ordinate all this is a very small price to pay. The rest of us do not get paid and would certainly never seek it or want it. Nor do we resent the person who has the point for the post. It all leads to a very successful approach . I certainly wouldnt call him a 'leech'. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 19, 2013, 05:42:12 PM
Quote from: rionach 4 on October 19, 2013, 03:20:41 PM
In the school I teach in one person receives a point for organising all school teams . He is in charge of all that is to do with the organising of pitches coaches referees etc. That is his post of responsibility . There are upwards on eight teams at different grades. We all coach teams at various levels and  we do it for the good of the pupils school and the game that we love. School management see gaelic games as a very integral part of school life and for the holistic education of the pupils. One point for a teacher to co-ordinate all this is a very small price to pay. The rest of us do not get paid and would certainly never seek it or want it. Nor do we resent the person who has the point for the post. It all leads to a very successful approach . I certainly wouldnt call him a 'leech'.

Neither would I but when I asked the question everyone said the schools don't give a point for extra curricular activities.

One lad would prefer to give the lads books which is great. £1800 a year extra wouldn't make up for the responsibility and hassle of organising the schools games.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on October 19, 2013, 09:43:36 PM
would have thought teachers were well enough paid without the extra points.                        Someone had to say it!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Celt_Man on October 20, 2013, 06:53:46 PM
Right I'm gonna ask it - what in the name of jaysus is a fecking "point"???
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on October 20, 2013, 08:02:30 PM
It doesn't make sense for any school to give a point just for coaching one team. The board of governors must have been snoozing when that was passed. In most schools you would only get 2pts for a HoD or HoY job, which would be a lot more hassle in comparison with taking a few training sessions!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2013, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Estimator on October 20, 2013, 08:02:30 PM
It doesn't make sense for any school to give a point just for coaching one team. The board of governors must have been snoozing when that was passed. In most schools you would only get 2pts for a HoD or HoY job, which would be a lot more hassle in comparison with taking a few training sessions!

Some schools (certainly my old school) had one teacher looking after all the hurling teams, and another teacher looking after the football teams. My school was a small secondary school so we had one team per year (maybe not, can't remember). I'd say though in the bigger schools (according to ones here) that it's not the case, and the organiser is the only one who gets a point.

In the big rugby schools and even in smaller ones they have non teaching staff paid very well to coach the rugby, and hockey teams.

Have found it strange why all the teachers who have posted on this topic be so against someone getting a few pound extra (not like kids are losing out on teaching because of it) to manage and coach teams.

I've first hand knowledge of teachers getting at least a half point for this
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on October 20, 2013, 08:57:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2013, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Estimator on October 20, 2013, 08:02:30 PM
It doesn't make sense for any school to give a point just for coaching one team. The board of governors must have been snoozing when that was passed. In most schools you would only get 2pts for a HoD or HoY job, which would be a lot more hassle in comparison with taking a few training sessions!

Some schools (certainly my old school) had one teacher looking after all the hurling teams, and another teacher looking after the football teams. My school was a small secondary school so we had one team per year (maybe not, can't remember). I'd say though in the bigger schools (according to ones here) that it's not the case, and the organiser is the only one who gets a point.

In the big rugby schools and even in smaller ones they have non teaching staff paid very well to coach the rugby, and hockey teams.

Have found it strange why all the teachers who have posted on this topic be so against someone getting a few pound extra (not like kids are losing out on teaching because of it) to manage and coach teams.

I've first hand knowledge of teachers getting at least a half point for this
I wouldn't be against  it at all. If the school have the budget and are willing to give a teacher(s) points or half points for taking  extra curricular activities then fair play!  I don't know any teacher that would turn it down.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2013, 09:00:10 PM
Quote from: Estimator on October 20, 2013, 08:57:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2013, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Estimator on October 20, 2013, 08:02:30 PM
It doesn't make sense for any school to give a point just for coaching one team. The board of governors must have been snoozing when that was passed. In most schools you would only get 2pts for a HoD or HoY job, which would be a lot more hassle in comparison with taking a few training sessions!

Some schools (certainly my old school) had one teacher looking after all the hurling teams, and another teacher looking after the football teams. My school was a small secondary school so we had one team per year (maybe not, can't remember). I'd say though in the bigger schools (according to ones here) that it's not the case, and the organiser is the only one who gets a point.

In the big rugby schools and even in smaller ones they have non teaching staff paid very well to coach the rugby, and hockey teams.

Have found it strange why all the teachers who have posted on this topic be so against someone getting a few pound extra (not like kids are losing out on teaching because of it) to manage and coach teams.

I've first hand knowledge of teachers getting at least a half point for this
I wouldn't be against  it at all. If the school have the budget and are willing to give a teacher(s) points or half points for taking  extra curricular activities then fair play!  I don't know any teacher that would turn it down.

O'Neill would rather buy the kids books with the money, which is very noble
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: superbad on October 22, 2013, 09:27:56 PM
I see the Abbey were beat today by Enniskillen in the MacRory.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: NP 76 on October 23, 2013, 10:19:41 AM
Abbey were winning by 7 pts. with 10 mins to go and didn't close it out from what I hear. They played one of their best forwards Donnacha Mc Aleenan as a corner back then made a raft of subs which didn't work
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on October 23, 2013, 11:23:37 AM
abbey seem to be trying different people for different positions which is probably right given that the phoney war  is before Christmas
that being said they probably will fk it up again
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: FermGael on October 23, 2013, 11:45:32 AM
Has the group version of the mcRory not changed this year?

As far as i know only the top 2 teams in each group will qulaify for the quarter finals.
The rest will have be decided by plaff off games.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on October 23, 2013, 01:29:19 PM
Some feedback - the Ulster Colleges football website is atrocious.

http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/ (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on October 23, 2013, 04:44:06 PM
Quote from: NP 76 on October 23, 2013, 10:19:41 AM
Abbey were winning by 7 pts. with 10 mins to go and didn't close it out from what I hear. They played one of their best forwards Donnacha Mc Aleenan as a corner back then made a raft of subs which didn't work
Maybe they have plenty of good forwards and have a shortage of quality defenders, could be their Achilles heel this year.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on October 25, 2013, 04:10:54 PM
Good luck to Maghera tonight in the Mageean Final against CPC.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on October 25, 2013, 10:54:13 PM
CPC won it. See their second goal here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjfWzvYWVzs&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjfWzvYWVzs&feature=youtu.be) and a fantastic late save here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJry2LQX6_0&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJry2LQX6_0&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on October 31, 2013, 06:47:55 PM
St Pats Maghera beat St Pats Armagh today at Derrytresk though only by a point in the MacRory Cup. See the goals here and an extremely impressive rainbow!
http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/video-st-patricks-maghera-1-9-st-patricks-armagh-1-8/ (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/video-st-patricks-maghera-1-9-st-patricks-armagh-1-8/)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 11, 2013, 04:11:10 PM
Rannafast Semi Final - Maghera 4-12 Omagh 3-9.

Maghera v Colmans Final. Friday night 7.45 in Queens.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on November 13, 2013, 08:59:14 PM
guys whats the format for the last 8 this year
in the mac rory
is it top 4 in each group and then open draw
if so group a seems to have some serious heavyweights who may miss out
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: PAULD123 on November 14, 2013, 11:03:37 AM
Quote from: naka on November 13, 2013, 08:59:14 PM
guys whats the format for the last 8 this year
in the mac rory
is it top 4 in each group and then open draw
if so group a seems to have some serious heavyweights who may miss out

If BT were still sponsoring you wouldn't have to ask this question because their website was infinitely better than Danske Bank's.

I would also like to ask the same question Naka has asked and also does anyone have the latest tables that they could post here?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: tyrone86 on November 14, 2013, 11:12:11 AM
As far as I know the top 2 in each section qualify for the QFs automatically and then the next 4 playoff A3 v B6; A4 v B5; A5 v B4; A6 v B3 and it's open draw after that.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on November 14, 2013, 12:42:40 PM
Quote from: tyrone86 on November 14, 2013, 11:12:11 AM
As far as I know the top 2 in each section qualify for the QFs automatically and then the next 4 playoff A3 v B6; A4 v B5; A5 v B4; A6 v B3 and it's open draw after that.

Yip something like that, and those playoffs will approximately be the week before the quarter finals, which will place the automatic qualifiers who went straight to the quarter finals at a disadvantage. They will being going in cold on the back of a couple of challenge matcsh against a team who has had a very serious game the week before.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on November 14, 2013, 04:29:04 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on November 14, 2013, 12:42:40 PM
Quote from: tyrone86 on November 14, 2013, 11:12:11 AM
As far as I know the top 2 in each section qualify for the QFs automatically and then the next 4 playoff A3 v B6; A4 v B5; A5 v B4; A6 v B3 and it's open draw after that.

Yip something like that, and those playoffs will approximately be the week before the quarter finals, which will place the automatic qualifiers who went straight to the quarter finals at a disadvantage. They will being going in cold on the back of a couple of challenge matcsh against a team who has had a very serious game the week before.
The more serious the game the more risk of injury to key players.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on November 15, 2013, 10:46:10 PM
St Pats beat St Colmans in the Rannafast, by about 3 points.

St Josephs Crossmaglen beat Ballymena in the earlier match by a late point.

St Pat's Maghera had that little bit more strength across the 15. In midfield Glass did some great catches and their leftback McNicholl is a crafty wee divil, but a good player.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: superbad on November 16, 2013, 07:51:47 PM
Disappointing result for Colman's last night but seemed to be very close. Hopefully they will build on it. Was reading the match preview and Maghera seemed to be the favourites. Three Rannafasts in 4 years, some going plus a MacRory/Hogan. How good is young Carr and Aiken? Crossmaglen are doing well.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on November 16, 2013, 08:09:03 PM
Quote from: superbad on November 16, 2013, 07:51:47 PM
Disappointing result for Colman's last night but seemed to be very close. Hopefully they will build on it. Was reading the match preview and Maghera seemed to be the favourites. Three Rannafasts in 4 years, some going plus a MacRory/Hogan. How good is young Carr and Aiken? Crossmaglen are doing well.
they have a long way to go to be in the same class as young Glass.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: superbad on November 16, 2013, 08:09:54 PM
He must be something special.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2013, 08:40:50 PM
Young Glass is a serious player.  Great to see St Joes winning the Herald Cup, think it is only their second one ever. Some fine young players on the team from the whole area. Only 4 clubs represented, ourselves,  Silverbridge Cullyhanna and mullaghbawn.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: armaghniac on November 16, 2013, 09:08:11 PM
QuoteOnly 4 clubs represented, ourselves,  Silverbridge Cullyhanna and mullaghbawn.

Not looking good for Cullaville then.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Worker on November 16, 2013, 09:19:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2013, 08:40:50 PM
Young Glass is a serious player.  Great to see St Joes winning the Herald Cup, think it is only their second one ever. Some fine young players on the team from the whole area. Only 4 clubs represented, ourselves,  Silverbridge Cullyhanna and mullaghbawn.

The full forward for st joes seemed a v good player, what club is he ?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2013, 09:40:19 PM
Quote from: The Worker on November 16, 2013, 09:19:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2013, 08:40:50 PM
Young Glass is a serious player.  Great to see St Joes winning the Herald Cup, think it is only their second one ever. Some fine young players on the team from the whole area. Only 4 clubs represented, ourselves,  Silverbridge Cullyhanna and mullaghbawn.

The full forward for st joes seemed a v good player, what club is he ?

Left footed? That was miceal mc cabe, he is one of the Cross lads, there are 7 of that team from Cross,  the keeper, the full back line, one of the mf, chf and the ff.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Worker on November 16, 2013, 10:30:12 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2013, 09:40:19 PM
Quote from: The Worker on November 16, 2013, 09:19:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2013, 08:40:50 PM
Young Glass is a serious player.  Great to see St Joes winning the Herald Cup, think it is only their second one ever. Some fine young players on the team from the whole area. Only 4 clubs represented, ourselves,  Silverbridge Cullyhanna and mullaghbawn.

The full forward for st joes seemed a v good player, what club is he ?

Left footed? That was miceal mc cabe, he is one of the Cross lads, there are 7 of that team from Cross,  the keeper, the full back line, one of the mf, chf and the ff.

Yeah must be. The conveyor belt shows no signs of slowing up then !
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2013, 10:38:23 PM
Quote from: The Worker on November 16, 2013, 10:30:12 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2013, 09:40:19 PM
Quote from: The Worker on November 16, 2013, 09:19:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2013, 08:40:50 PM
Young Glass is a serious player.  Great to see St Joes winning the Herald Cup, think it is only their second one ever. Some fine young players on the team from the whole area. Only 4 clubs represented, ourselves,  Silverbridge Cullyhanna and mullaghbawn.

The full forward for st joes seemed a v good player, what club is he ?

Left footed? That was miceal mc cabe, he is one of the Cross lads, there are 7 of that team from Cross,  the keeper, the full back line, one of the mf, chf and the ff.

Yeah must be. The conveyor belt shows no signs of slowing up then !

Yeah pretty good u16 team this year,  playing in the Paul McGirr Ulster competition semi final next week.  Good bunch of lads.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: NP 76 on November 16, 2013, 11:20:50 PM
I didn't think Glass was on form last night didn't look interested un till the last 10 mins when it was tight and he made a few vital catches and drove forward. The no 4 was a class act but should of been sent of earlier for a knee to the head of the corner forward. Thought maghera were the stronger side with the forwards all capable of doing damage but this is a very young college team with a fair few 4th years on board. Everyone was expecting maghera to win easy but the college held on and gave them a run for it.  The other game was won by the best side with some good lads on show. The no 6 for ballymena was excellent as was 14 for cross. The cross midfield was excellent and won a vast amount of clean catches.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on November 19, 2013, 10:13:14 AM
Another good win for St Pats on Friday evening. always good to put one over St Colemans. That's last year on the way to winning the Mac Rory and Hogan Cups, and this year on route to the Rannafast. Sweet.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Brick Tamlin on November 19, 2013, 11:13:45 AM
I wouldn't be crowing too much about it to be honest.
That was a Maghera group of players that has had a lot of relative success up through the grades, not to mention a decorated Hogan winner in their ranks.
They had beaten the same Colmans team by 12 points in the earlier stages of this competition and were heavily fancied going into the final.
Be under no illusions, Colman's were rank outsiders and to get to the final was an achievement in itself..probably just glad to have shared the field with the Derry men.

On the game itself, Glass did nothing until the last 8mins. Colman's midfield had nullified his threat and influence for large parts. Colman's had an excellent first half of football and the halftime whistle came too soon for them. Maghera would been glad to get inside and regroup. They showed a lot better the 2nd half and started to show why they were the strong favourites. Colman's goals were both out of the blue, but the 2nd goal was a fantastic effort. They were in it at the death by the skin of their teeth but again Maghera steadied themselves with some well taken scores and ran out deserved winners. The no4 for Maghera should have walked earlier for his continuous antics off the ball, along with dropping the knee into a guy on the floor. He was a good player but was too involved in the bullsh!t stuff. He walked because he tried to decapitate the Colma's midfielder but actually ended up on his hole.

In the earlier game its was a ding-dong battle too. St Josephs had the more influential ball players in the positions that counted. Thought the ref gave absolutely nothing to Ballymena. He was extremely harsh on them and definitely didn't have a good day. He penalised Ballymena for certain fouls but wasn't as quick to blow when it was Crossmaglen who infringed. The winning score itself was a gift from the ref. Ballymena no11 had 2 men hanging out of him trying to win his ball but was blown for fouling his man. He then moved the ball up due to no11 protests at being blown up when it was evident he was the victim. The free was then brought into shooting range for no14 for Cross. Ballymena no6 presence was missed in the second half whenever he went to full back to nullify Cross danger man.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 19, 2013, 11:24:36 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on November 19, 2013, 11:13:45 AM
I wouldn't be crowing too much about it to be honest.
That was a Maghera group of players that has had a lot of relative success up through the grades, not to mention a decorated Hogan winner in their ranks.
They had beaten the same Colmans team by 12 points in the earlier stages of this competition and were heavily fancied going into the final.
Be under no illusions, Colman's were rank outsiders and to get to the final was an achievement in itself..probably just glad to have shared the field with the Derry men.

On the game itself, Glass did nothing until the last 8mins. Colman's midfield had nullified his threat and influence for large parts. Colman's had an excellent first half of football and the halftime whistle came too soon for them. Maghera would been glad to get inside and regroup. They showed a lot better the 2nd half and started to show why they were the strong favourites. Colman's goals were both out of the blue, but the 2nd goal was a fantastic effort. They were in it at the death by the skin of their teeth but again Maghera steadied themselves with some well taken scores and ran out deserved winners. The no4 for Maghera should have walked earlier for his continuous antics off the ball, along with dropping the knee into a guy on the floor. He was a good player but was too involved in the bullsh!t stuff. He walked because he tried to decapitate the Colma's midfielder but actually ended up on his hole.

In the earlier game its was a ding-dong battle too. St Josephs had the more influential ball players in the positions that counted. Thought the ref gave absolutely nothing to Ballymena. He was extremely harsh on them and definitely didn't have a good day. He penalised Ballymena for certain fouls but wasn't as quick to blow when it was Crossmaglen who infringed. The winning score itself was a gift from the ref. Ballymena no11 had 2 men hanging out of him trying to win his ball but was blown for fouling his man. He then moved the ball up due to no11 protests at being blown up when it was evident he was the victim. The free was then brought into shooting range for no14 for Cross. Ballymena no6 presence was missed in the second half whenever he went to full back to nullify Cross danger man.

When the game was in the melting pot and things werent going his way he showed leadership.

Sign of a good player in my eyes.

Perhaps you expect him to rattle in 2-5 every game??
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Brick Tamlin on November 19, 2013, 11:38:09 AM
I look at it differently.
A player of that calibre, experience and sheer size should have been influencing the game a lot more than what he was.
Suppose its testament to Colman's midfielders for nullifying his threat somewhat.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 19, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on November 19, 2013, 11:38:09 AM
I look at it differently.
A player of that calibre, experience and sheer size should have been influencing the game a lot more than what he was.
Suppose its testament to Colman's midfielders for nullifying his threat somewhat.


Catch yourself on. Its U16s we're referring to here. Why not judge his peers in the same light??

The likelihood is you've read the hype online and in the papers and this was the first time you've seen Conor play.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Brick Tamlin on November 19, 2013, 11:50:03 AM
Youre right it was the first time id seen the lad play. Id read nothing about him or seen any footage of him.
I was told by well informed people at Ulster Colleges level that he was a fantastic talent and was probably the standout player in last years Hogan cup victory.
That's all I was going by, was keen to see how good he was that's all.
Can we really judge his peers in the same light when he is clearly more physically developed than them and has that Hogan winning experience behind him?
He looked like an adult footballer amongst underage players.

Settle yourself.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 19, 2013, 11:52:02 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on November 19, 2013, 11:50:03 AM
Youre right it was the first time id seen the lad play. Id read nothing about him or seen any footage of him.
I was told by well informed people at Ulster Colleges level that he was a fantastic talent and was probably the standout player in last years Hogan cup victory.
That's all I was going by, was keen to see how good he was that's all.
Can we really judge his peers in the same light when he is clearly more physically developed than them and has that Hogan winning experience behind him?
He looked like an adult footballer amongst underage players.

Settle yourself.


I rest my case!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on November 23, 2013, 04:59:07 PM
We beat St Colemans again today in a cracking game, in Mac Rory league section. Although in all  likelihood, it will no effect after Xmas. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on November 23, 2013, 08:37:07 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on November 23, 2013, 04:59:07 PM
We beat St Colemans again today in a cracking game in Mac Rory league section. Although it in all  likelihood it will no effect after Xmas.

It is St Colman's College, son. Write it out 50 times.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on November 27, 2013, 12:25:43 PM
Looks like there was some very exciting Macrory cup games yesterday anyone at any of the matches. Is there any truth that a few Abbey CBS/ St. Pats Cavan lads got red carded after the final whistle and if so how does this affect them for the next stage of the competition?   Maghera v Magherafelt and Abbey v St. Pauls should be well contested derby matches in the play offs. I think Monaghan will be the team to beat overall.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rodney trotter on November 27, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
It should be a good final next week between St Pats Cavan and MaCartans. McCartans have Conor McCarthy Monghan Minor star from this year and corner forward for Scotstown in their attack along with Cavan Minor Captain Tom Hayes.

Pats haven't had a full strength team for the league so its been good progress.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on November 27, 2013, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 27, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
It should be a good final next week between St Pats Cavan and MaCartans. McCartans have Conor McCarthy Monghan Minor star from this year and corner forward for Scotstown in their attack along with Cavan Minor Captain Tom Hayes.

Pats haven't had a full strength team for the league so its been good progress.
That's two of the reasons I thought Mc Cartans could be the team to beat but if St Pats have lads still to come in that will improve their team and the fact that no one beat them in a group that looked stronger on paper than Mc Cartans, well maybe it will be Cavans year!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 27, 2013, 02:18:00 PM
Quote from: elk on November 27, 2013, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 27, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
It should be a good final next week between St Pats Cavan and MaCartans. McCartans have Conor McCarthy Monghan Minor star from this year and corner forward for Scotstown in their attack along with Cavan Minor Captain Tom Hayes.

Pats haven't had a full strength team for the league so its been good progress.
That's two of the reasons I thought Mc Cartans could be the team to beat but if St Pats have lads still to come in that will improve their team and the fact that no one beat them in a group that looked stronger on paper than Mc Cartans, well maybe it will be Cavans year!

Be nice to see a break through from one of the Southern schools. When was the last time either won the Mac Rory??
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 27, 2013, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 27, 2013, 02:18:00 PM
Quote from: elk on November 27, 2013, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on November 27, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
It should be a good final next week between St Pats Cavan and MaCartans. McCartans have Conor McCarthy Monghan Minor star from this year and corner forward for Scotstown in their attack along with Cavan Minor Captain Tom Hayes.

Pats haven't had a full strength team for the league so its been good progress.
That's two of the reasons I thought Mc Cartans could be the team to beat but if St Pats have lads still to come in that will improve their team and the fact that no one beat them in a group that looked stronger on paper than Mc Cartans, well maybe it will be Cavans year!

Be nice to see a break through from one of the Southern schools. When was the last time either won the Mac Rory??

1972, Cavan
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: FarneyMan on November 27, 2013, 03:48:22 PM
I think 1956 was the last year that 2 "southern" colleges competed against each other in a senior final, St Macartans v St Eunans Letterkenny....
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on November 27, 2013, 09:09:12 PM
Would it be fair to say that some schools offer lower sixth places to boys who offer great service on the football field, but clearly have little academic ability and shouldn't be there?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: armaghniac on November 27, 2013, 09:44:21 PM
QuoteWould it be fair to say that some schools offer lower sixth places to boys who offer great service on the football field, but clearly have little academic ability and shouldn't be there?

Sure why not? There are now schools in the MacRorwho offer places in all years to boys of little academic ability.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 27, 2013, 10:42:37 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 27, 2013, 09:44:21 PM
QuoteWould it be fair to say that some schools offer lower sixth places to boys who offer great service on the football field, but clearly have little academic ability and shouldn't be there?

Sure why not? There are now schools in the MacRorwho offer places in all years to boys of little academic ability.

Out of interest. Would the following be correct?

Grammar Schools:
Abbey CBS
St Colmans
St Pats Dungannon
Omagh CBS
St Mary's Magherafelt
St Pats Armagh
St Michaels Enniskillen
St Michaels Lurgan

Non Grammar:
St Pats Maghera
St Paul's Bessbrook
St Ciarans Ballygawley

Not sure about St Pats Cavan and St MacCartans Monaghan.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rodney trotter on November 27, 2013, 11:27:48 PM
Stick it on here as its Ulster related, UUJ beat DIT tonight in DKIT, Ryan Cup Semi, 1-11 to 1-10 they meet UCD in the final next week.. UCD beat DCU 12pts to 9 last week.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on November 29, 2013, 03:49:23 PM
Quote from: Orior on November 27, 2013, 09:09:12 PM
Would it be fair to say that some schools offer lower sixth places to boys who offer great service on the football field, but clearly have little academic ability and shouldn't be there?
Surely all grammar schools must have a minimum level of academic achievement they require before they would consider offering a  lad a place. Wouldn't be fair on the lad if he was being left behind in class because he isn't fit for the work. Or am I just being naive?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on November 29, 2013, 08:47:23 PM
Was there not always something about a slight age difference between northern & southern colleges that handicapped the southern colleges? Was thinking that might have changed?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on November 29, 2013, 08:51:02 PM
Don't want to sound nasty but you're being naive Without wanting to sound disrespectful there is an ex St Colmans lad who entered the school in 6th form and who now allegedly has more Hogan Cup medals than he has O Levels
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on November 29, 2013, 09:07:42 PM
Today's round-up of Colleges' action taken from Ulster Colleges Website

November 29, 2013

Danske Bank MacLarnon Cup

There was a huge shock in yesterday's MacLarnon Cup play-offs with Our Lady's & St Patrick's Knock edging out last year's beaten finalists St Louis Kilkeel 4-4 to 1-11.

Nicholas Turkington's early penalty gave Knock a good start and they led by 3-2 to 1-6 at the break with further goals from Tom Grimley and James Guinness.

Aaron Darcy had converted a penalty for Kilkeel just before the break and he added a point on the re-start.

The crucial score of the game however was Knock's fourth goal from Ryan Murray 7 minutes after the break.  It halted the comeback and panicked St Louis into going for goals, when points during the remaining 23 minutes would probably have taken them home.

Holy Trinity Cookstown's secured their quarter-final spot with a 2-7 to 0-11 win over Our Lady's Castleblaney in Dunmoyle.

Cookstown used the breeze to build up a 2-4 to 0-4 interval lead, with goals from Gavin Goodfellow after 10 minutes and Macauley Quinn.

Quinn scored on the re-start, but Castleblaney hit five points in a row to narrow the deficit to just 2 points with 13 minutes left.  But points from Ryan Loughran and James Lowe and a fine save from Nathan Bell saw Holy Trinity through.

St Columb's Derry are also through to the MacLarnon quarter-finals after they defeated Our Lady's Castleblaney by 1-13 to 0-7.

The point-taking of Michael McCallion and Dean Curran was key to this game.  Both scored 4 points.

St Columb's led by 0-7 to 0-4 at the break and their goal came after 39 minutes when a high ball from Michael Kelly was fumbled into the net by the 'Blaney goalie.

The remaining play-off game is between Patrician High Carrickmacross and St Mary's Belfast at the start of the week.

The winner of that will join yesterday's winners and St Patrick's Downpatrick, St Malachy's Belfast, Coláistí Inis Eoghain and St Eunan's Letterkenny in the Danske Bank MacLarnon Cup draw next month.

The teams that have lost the play-offs – Our Lady's Castleblaney, St Patrick's Keady, St Louis Kilkeel and either Patrician High Carrickmacross or St Mary's Belfast – will join Rathmore Grammar, La Salle Belfast, St Louis Ballymena and St Pius X Magherafelt in the quarter-final draw for the Danske Bank O'Doherty Cup, a competition that also goes beyond Ulster into the All-Ireland series.



Danske Bank Corn na nÓg semi-final

St Patrick's Maghera 4-12 Omagh CBS 0-8

The second semi-final resulted in an emphatic win for competition favourites St Patrick's Maghera over Omagh CBS.

The toss probably decided the pattern if not the result of the match.  Maghera elected to play with the strong breeze and led by 4-9 to 0-1 at the turn-over, with Alex Doherty completing a hat-trick of goals close on the break.

Omagh did better with the breeze, but the gap was too wide to bridge, despite four fine points from Jarlath Murphy.

Doherty got two of the three points during the second half for Maghera to bring his personal tally to an impressive 3-3

St Patrick's : Alex Doherty 3-3, Ruairi Rafferty 1-0, Richie Mullan 0-5, Oisin McWilliams 0-3, Tiarnan McCusker 0-2.

Omagh CBS : Jarlath Murphy 0-4, Ciaran Brolly 0-2, Ross Slevin 0-1, Caolan Slevin 0-1.



Ulster Colleges' Camogie

Cross & Passion Ballycastle 3-11 St Killian's 3-4

The better team won this Corn Eimhear semi-final in Ballymena yesterday, but how Cross & Passion had to fight to reach the decider.

With 6 minutes left on the clock a goal from Mary Kane had reduced the Ballycastle lead to a single point, 2-8 to 3-4, and the momentum was with the Tower who had taken the game to CPC in the second half.

However a searching ball into the Tower defence wasn't cleared properly and Christine Laverty forced it home.

That was the score that sealed the game, and Ballycastle finished with points from Lisa McGuckin and Aisling Elliott to book their place against the winner of the second semi-final this (SATURDAY) morning in Cargin between holders St Mary's Magherafelt and St Patrick's Maghera.

Ballycastle got a great start with points from Caoimhe Wright (2) and Aine Donnelly in the first 4 minutes.  Caoimhe Wright added a goal in the 13th minute for a 1-4 to 0-1 lead.

St Killian's hit back with a goal from Siobhán McKillop but close to the break Aine Donnelly forced home a second goal from Cross & Passion and her team led 2-6 to 1-3 at the turnover.

Despite three quick points at the start of the second half, one for St Killian's Laoise McKenna and 2 for Aine Donnelly, scoring slowed up until Siobhan McKillop and Mary Kane claimed Tower goals quick on each other to make it a one-point game with just a few minutes remaining.

However St Killian's couldn't maintain the pressure and Cross & Passion closed out the game.

Cross & Passion Caoimhe Wright 1-5, Aine Donnelly 1-4, Christine Laverty 1-1, Aisling Elliott 0-1, Lisa McGuckin 0-1.

St Killian's : Siobhan McKillop 2-0, Mary Kane 1-0, Dervla Cosgrove 0-2, Laoise McKenna 0-1, Sinead Convery 0-1.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on November 29, 2013, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on November 29, 2013, 08:51:02 PM
Don't want to sound nasty but you're being naive Without wanting to sound disrespectful there is an ex St Colmans lad who entered the school in 6th form and who now allegedly has more Hogan Cup medals than he has O Levels

Who???
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on November 29, 2013, 09:21:46 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on November 29, 2013, 08:51:02 PM
Don't want to sound nasty but you're being naive Without wanting to sound disrespectful there is an ex St Colmans lad who entered the school in 6th form and who now allegedly has more Hogan Cup medals than he has O Levels

I was just checking if it happens in other schools. I came across a case where a number of pupils are getting taught on practically a one to one basis. This was a trade off for the school acquiring their gaelic skills. Not only is it wrong, but it detracts from the teaching that other pupils deserve.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on November 29, 2013, 09:35:51 PM
Quote from: Orior on November 29, 2013, 09:21:46 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on November 29, 2013, 08:51:02 PM
Don't want to sound nasty but you're being naive Without wanting to sound disrespectful there is an ex St Colmans lad who entered the school in 6th form and who now allegedly has more Hogan Cup medals than he has O Levels

I was just checking if it happens in other schools. I came across a case where a number of pupils are getting taught on practically a one to one basis. This was a trade off for the school acquiring their gaelic skills. Not only is it wrong, but it detracts from the teaching that other pupils deserve.

I'll tell you a better one than that.  I heard a few years back about a certain Polytecnic University who were providing tuition for 'special' students who were in fear of not getting their A Levels. Interesting
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on November 29, 2013, 09:38:19 PM
Quote from: Orior on November 29, 2013, 09:21:46 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on November 29, 2013, 08:51:02 PM
Don't want to sound nasty but you're being naive Without wanting to sound disrespectful there is an ex St Colmans lad who entered the school in 6th form and who now allegedly has more Hogan Cup medals than he has O Levels

I was just checking if it happens in other schools. I came across a case where a number of pupils are getting taught on practically a one to one basis. This was a trade off for the school acquiring their gaelic skills. Not only is it wrong, but it detracts from the teaching that other pupils deserve.

Another interesting case.  Who was this?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: sam03/05 on November 29, 2013, 09:40:54 PM
There is no such thing as a Grammar school nowadays, the vast majority will take pupils at 11 who are getting c and below at the entrance / transfer test.
They have to fill the places simple as that.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on November 30, 2013, 12:49:04 AM
Quote from: sam03/05 on November 29, 2013, 09:40:54 PM
There is no such thing as a Grammar school nowadays, the vast majority will take pupils at 11 who are getting c and below at the entrance / transfer test.
They have to fill the places simple as that.

Bums on seats.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on December 03, 2013, 10:53:38 PM
Video: See all 3 goals for the SEM in tonight's Danske Bank McCormack Cup Final vs St Pat's Cavan in Emyvale http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnneycool on December 04, 2013, 01:03:53 PM
Quote from: orangeman on November 30, 2013, 12:49:04 AM
Quote from: sam03/05 on November 29, 2013, 09:40:54 PM
There is no such thing as a Grammar school nowadays, the vast majority will take pupils at 11 who are getting c and below at the entrance / transfer test.
They have to fill the places simple as that.

Bums on seats.

Correctamundo and always was if you'd a few quid to sweeten the deal.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on December 07, 2013, 04:27:49 PM
Maghera won the Derry derby this morning at Ballinascreen versus the Convent in the Corn na nOg Final. See the best two goals here http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on December 08, 2013, 06:53:23 PM
Congrats to St Pats Corn Na Og team on their performance yesterday, and to Martin Mc Connell on managing them. He took the college to the Mac Rory and Hogan Cup.
Here is a very interesting stat and a measure of the strength of underage football in Derry presently. St Pats presently have the Hogan Cup, Mac Rory Cup, Rannafast Cup, Corn Na Og Cup, Dalton Cup and year 8 Cup at the college. That is some achievement
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: corran on December 09, 2013, 09:44:31 AM
Ulster college all-star trials were held last week.
At one trial 13-aside games were played. Can anyone understand how a fullback or fullforward could have a fair shot at showing what they can do when not played in their chosen position.
Have these positions already been chosen?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: NAG1 on December 09, 2013, 10:59:06 AM
Quote from: corran on December 09, 2013, 09:44:31 AM
Ulster college all-star trials were held last week.
At one trial 13-aside games were played. Can anyone understand how a fullback or fullforward could have a fair shot at showing what they can do when not played in their chosen position.
Have these positions already been chosen?

Never understood the rationale for these trial games, the All Stars should be picked the same as the Senior ones on match performances no?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on December 09, 2013, 12:53:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 09, 2013, 10:59:06 AM
Quote from: corran on December 09, 2013, 09:44:31 AM
Ulster college all-star trials were held last week.
At one trial 13-aside games were played. Can anyone understand how a fullback or fullforward could have a fair shot at showing what they can do when not played in their chosen position.
Have these positions already been chosen?

Never understood the rationale for these trial games, the All Stars should be picked the same as the Senior ones on match performances no?
Would have to agree should be picked on performances throughout the league stages.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: CSC on December 09, 2013, 07:23:51 PM
Should they not be awared after the MacRory is over, and based on league and knockout performances.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: corran on December 10, 2013, 06:56:59 PM
You wouldn't expect sense or fairness to be present in any selection process that is overseen by the gaa and sponsored by bankers.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dougal Maguire on December 10, 2013, 08:32:58 PM
My young lad was called for a trial last year. He said it was the worse run farce he ever had the misfortune to be part of
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on December 11, 2013, 02:32:41 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on December 10, 2013, 08:32:58 PM
My young lad was called for a trial last year. He said it was the worse run farce he ever had the misfortune to be part of
Know a couple of parents who's lads were involved this year who also claim it is a farce and were sorry their lads waste a day out of class.Team mentors at the trials looking after the interests of their own lads with strategic team selection/positioning to ensure their lads look better if playing against or for the team their in charge off. What's the point of the trials if it's not an even playing field?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 11, 2013, 02:37:45 PM
If you gain an "All Star" are you more likely to get on the Elite Athlete scheme at University??
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: FermGael on December 11, 2013, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: elk on December 09, 2013, 12:53:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 09, 2013, 10:59:06 AM
Quote from: corran on December 09, 2013, 09:44:31 AM
Ulster college all-star trials were held last week.
At one trial 13-aside games were played. Can anyone understand how a fullback or fullforward could have a fair shot at showing what they can do when not played in their chosen position.
Have these positions already been chosen?

Never understood the rationale for these trial games, the All Stars should be picked the same as the Senior ones on match performances no?
Would have to agree should be picked on performances throughout the league stages.

Would agree as well but very hard to watch all the college's football in Ulster.
There is not just the 'A' Competition ( the McRory) but also the 'B'  and 'C' competitions as well to consider.
How would anybody see all the games? 
Impossible ask and "trials" are probably the only way of doing it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: screenexile on December 11, 2013, 03:44:16 PM
Trials are a farce too... IIRC Michael Walsh was injured for the group stages of the MacRory trials when I was U6th but got a trial and a subsequent Allstar!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: CSC on December 11, 2013, 06:10:14 PM
Quote from: FermGael on December 11, 2013, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: elk on December 09, 2013, 12:53:10 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 09, 2013, 10:59:06 AM
Quote from: corran on December 09, 2013, 09:44:31 AM
Ulster college all-star trials were held last week.
At one trial 13-aside games were played. Can anyone understand how a fullback or fullforward could have a fair shot at showing what they can do when not played in their chosen position.
Have these positions already been chosen?

Never understood the rationale for these trial games, the All Stars should be picked the same as the Senior ones on match performances no?
Would have to agree should be picked on performances throughout the league stages.

Would agree as well but very hard to watch all the college's football in Ulster.
There is not just the 'A' Competition ( the McRory) but also the 'B'  and 'C' competitions as well to consider.
How would anybody see all the games? 
Impossible ask and "trials" are probably the only way of doing it.
Living in the states now, and they have a great system. Schools are put into groups acording to size, and each year, the have "all star" awards for each group. i.e., a MacRory , McLarnon, etc all stars. Some of the sports identify the all stars based on votes from team mentors / opp team mentors for each game. The mentors pick a defensive / midfilder and forward vote for each games. At the end of the year, votes are tallied, and you have an all star awards.

There really is no reason why it is limited to 15 starting positions. What happens if you have 10 outstanding midlfielders in one year. Should they all not get an awards
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 02:10:42 PM
Delighted to report that our Club has its first college All Star this year, so I think it's a superb system.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: nrico2006 on December 13, 2013, 02:49:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 02:10:42 PM
Delighted to report that our Club has its first college All Star this year, so I think it's a superb system.

Who was that?  Is there a list up any where?  Surprised that more from your club haven't got one when you look at some of the players that have came through and had big underage success.  Then again they were all more than likely playing Markey Cup football.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2013, 02:56:25 PM
Holy Trinity get their first.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 03:10:02 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 13, 2013, 02:49:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 02:10:42 PM
Delighted to report that our Club has its first college All Star this year, so I think it's a superb system.

Who was that?  Is there a list up any where?  Surprised that more from your club haven't got one when you look at some of the players that have came through and had big underage success.  Then again they were all more than likely playing Markey Cup football.

Cathal McShane won one. They aren't officially out til Monday, but a lot of chatter on twitter of cubs saying who got them. Jarlath Og Burns got one as well.

Not totally au fait with how it works, but St Colmans/ HCC only came into the Ulster Colleges stable a few years back. I am assuming in Markey Cup days they weren't eligible.

Not sure or remember why Declan McCrossan never got one.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 13, 2013, 03:48:30 PM
Maghera got 2.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: nrico2006 on December 13, 2013, 04:10:56 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 03:10:02 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 13, 2013, 02:49:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 02:10:42 PM
Delighted to report that our Club has its first college All Star this year, so I think it's a superb system.

Who was that?  Is there a list up any where?  Surprised that more from your club haven't got one when you look at some of the players that have came through and had big underage success.  Then again they were all more than likely playing Markey Cup football.

Cathal McShane won one. They aren't officially out til Monday, but a lot of chatter on twitter of cubs saying who got them. Jarlath Og Burns got one as well.

Not totally au fait with how it works, but St Colmans/ HCC only came into the Ulster Colleges stable a few years back. I am assuming in Markey Cup days they weren't eligible.

Not sure or remember why Declan McCrossan never got one.

When you think of some of the players from St Colmans who would have been in the running, there would have been Paul Bradley, Jim Devine, Declan McCrossan and Brendan Boggs who would have all more than likely got one.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Puckoon on December 13, 2013, 04:26:39 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 03:10:02 PM


Not sure or remember why Declan McCrossan never got one.

Omagh CBS in the 90's didn't perform to any great standard in the MacRory cup - and Declan wouldn't be the only great player from the school not to gather an all star. Aiden Lynch, Tony McCormack, Aiden Ball, just off the top of my head

1991 - Jimmy Campbell  :D - Half forward
1992 - Brian McConnell - GK
1994 - Paul Tierney corner back
1998 - Fhergal Quinn full back - CBS got to the semi final this year
1999 - Mickey McGee full back, Stephen O'Neill half forward
2000 - Paddy McMahon mid field

Interestingly Justin is the only McMahon not to get the award (aside from the youngest so far).
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 13, 2013, 04:10:56 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 03:10:02 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 13, 2013, 02:49:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 02:10:42 PM
Delighted to report that our Club has its first college All Star this year, so I think it's a superb system.

Who was that?  Is there a list up any where?  Surprised that more from your club haven't got one when you look at some of the players that have came through and had big underage success.  Then again they were all more than likely playing Markey Cup football.

Cathal McShane won one. They aren't officially out til Monday, but a lot of chatter on twitter of cubs saying who got them. Jarlath Og Burns got one as well.

Not totally au fait with how it works, but St Colmans/ HCC only came into the Ulster Colleges stable a few years back. I am assuming in Markey Cup days they weren't eligible.

Not sure or remember why Declan McCrossan never got one.

When you think of some of the players from St Colmans who would have been in the running, there would have been Paul Bradley, Jim Devine, Declan McCrossan and Brendan Boggs who would have all more than likely got one.

If I remember neither Jim nor definitely Deccy went to St Colmans... I think. Declan definitely didn't.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on December 13, 2013, 08:02:05 PM
Looking at the Maghera players that have been awarded over the years:
1988: Fergal P McCusker & Gregory McCloskey
1989: None (Won MacRory & Hogan Cups)
1990: Paddy McAllister, Greg Simpson, K Diamond, B McCormick, E Burns, R Murphy
1991: Barry McGonigle, K Diamond
1992: K Ryan, R Rocks
1993: S McGuckin, D Hasson
1994: P McKaigue, M Diamond, M McCormick
1995: J Heaney, C Murphy, SM Lockhart
1996: N Farren, P Diamond, G Doyle, E Farren
1997: F Devlin, G Cassidy
1998: None
1999: None
2000: A McNally, P McKenna
2001: P Mooney, K McCann, C O'Neill
2002: G O'Kane, F McGuigan
2003: G O'Kane, J Bradley
2004: M Lynch, M Friel
2005: M Kirkpatrick
2006: None
2007: C McKaigue
2008: C McKaigue
2009: C McWilliams, E McGuckin
2010: D McKindless
2011: E Bradley
2012: R Dougan
2013: C Carville, J Kearney, S O'Hara

Some lads disappeared into obscurity. Others have had a good career for the county sides
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Worker on December 16, 2013, 09:26:21 AM
Is the full list of all stars available ?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on December 16, 2013, 08:28:51 PM
VIDEO: See all 15 new Danske Bank Ulster Colleges Football All Stars at today's presentation ceremony in Belfast..  http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: corran on December 16, 2013, 09:27:05 PM
Is that the same Shea Heffron who's daddy was on the ulster council?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on December 16, 2013, 11:37:49 PM
Shea's Dad won a MacRory with Maghera in the 80s. The full of today's new 2013/14 Ulster Colleges Football All Stars with their schools & clubs are here https://www.facebook.com/jerome.quinn.7 (https://www.facebook.com/jerome.quinn.7) I make it 3 for Derry, including two from Maghera and one from the Loup who's at Holy Trinity in Cookstown. Strangely enough, there's also a Monaghan lad winning an award with St Ciaran's Ballygawley and an Eglish All Star with St Patrick's Armagh, and even a Teemore lad with St Patrick's Cavan.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on December 16, 2013, 11:46:25 PM
I take that's jarlath's son??
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on December 16, 2013, 11:47:38 PM
Have a look at him on the video - there's no mistaking it
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: nrico2006 on December 17, 2013, 08:31:10 AM
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Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 03:10:02 PM
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Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 13, 2013, 02:10:42 PM
Delighted to report that our Club has its first college All Star this year, so I think it's a superb system.

Who was that?  Is there a list up any where?  Surprised that more from your club haven't got one when you look at some of the players that have came through and had big underage success.  Then again they were all more than likely playing Markey Cup football.

Cathal McShane won one. They aren't officially out til Monday, but a lot of chatter on twitter of cubs saying who got them. Jarlath Og Burns got one as well.

Not totally au fait with how it works, but St Colmans/ HCC only came into the Ulster Colleges stable a few years back. I am assuming in Markey Cup days they weren't eligible.

Not sure or remember why Declan McCrossan never got one.

When you think of some of the players from St Colmans who would have been in the running, there would have been Paul Bradley, Jim Devine, Declan McCrossan and Brendan Boggs who would have all more than likely got one.

If I remember neither Jim nor definitely Deccy went to St Colmans... I think. Declan definitely didn't.

Deccy didn't, dunno how he got into my post there.  Jim was though.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on December 17, 2013, 04:39:48 PM
After looking at the Macrory cup draw I fancy the 4 semi-finalists to be St. Colmans, St. Macartans,St. Michaels and Abbey CBS.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: superbad on January 29, 2014, 07:41:06 PM
Big game tonight in Armagh. Bessbrook and the Abbey. Rafferty V Gormley. Will keep you updated
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: superbad on January 29, 2014, 08:11:31 PM
Half time. Bessbrook leading the Abbey0 8 to 1 4. They scored five points in a row to take the lead. Good crowd
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on January 29, 2014, 08:56:58 PM
abbey by 2
1-11 to 0.12
good crowd and good game
mc name played well fro st pauls but Abbey just seemed to have more in their play
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on January 30, 2014, 02:03:47 AM
Video: One Minute Report with the best bits from last night's Abbey CBS v Bessbrook Danske Bank MacRory Cup tie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv8f0Dp-S4Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv8f0Dp-S4Y)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on January 30, 2014, 09:04:48 AM
Don't think the winners of Armagh/Dungannon will lose any sleep over facing the Abbey based on last nights performance.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on January 30, 2014, 10:11:51 AM
Quote from: elk on January 30, 2014, 09:04:48 AM
Don't think the winners of Armagh/Dungannon will lose any sleep over facing the Abbey based on last nights performance.
elk abbey did what they had to do
should had 2 more goals
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on January 30, 2014, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: naka on January 30, 2014, 10:11:51 AM
Quote from: elk on January 30, 2014, 09:04:48 AM
Don't think the winners of Armagh/Dungannon will lose any sleep over facing the Abbey based on last nights performance.
elk abbey did what they had to do
should had 2 more goals
I'm sure St.Pauls missed scores they should have taken also. It was not an impressive performance and if they play like that against better opposition and there are better teams than St. Pauls in the competition, they will get beat!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on January 31, 2014, 02:29:46 PM
tonites match is off
water logged pitch
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on January 31, 2014, 05:53:15 PM
Any word of tomorrow's game ?

There was a lot of rain today.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: tyroneboi on January 31, 2014, 06:51:57 PM
Academy match moved to Sunday in Eglish at 2.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: shawshank on January 31, 2014, 09:33:15 PM
Quote from: naka on January 31, 2014, 02:29:46 PM
tonites match is off
water logged pitch

After all the slabbering from some posters about how the Mc Kenna cup game would not have been called off if it had of been played in Armagh because "it's the best surface in Ulster" crap, the Mac Rory game in it for this evening was called off because the "best surface in Ulster" was water logged :) you couldn't make it up lol
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on February 01, 2014, 12:10:35 AM
The best surface in the world can still be waterlogged you numpty, it has rained solid for days in Armagh, and now its snowing.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: shawshank on February 01, 2014, 01:00:37 AM
Trained tonight on our club pitch
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on February 01, 2014, 09:28:35 AM
Quote from: shawshank on February 01, 2014, 01:00:37 AM
Trained tonight on our club pitch

Could you train on it today ?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: shawshank on February 01, 2014, 03:31:44 PM
Celtic Park is taking the game tonight, perhaps it's should have the title of best pitch in Ulster. I know of a number of pitches locally that would be playable, ie castledawson, magherafelt, bellaghy, never mind the two county grounds of Owenbeg and Celtic park.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on February 01, 2014, 04:07:15 PM
The Colleges games are now being played on a Wednesday night, a Friday night, a Saturday afternoon, a Sunday afternoon etc, what has happened to the traditional Saturday morning slot when games have been played for a lifetime?  Its all about big gates, making money for the GAA, PR for the sponsors, rather than thinking about those who mean most, the players.  For mid week games, like County players, these lads are at their work (school) all day and are expected to then prepare for a game that evening, getting home and having something to eat and then off to the game.  The county players are dead set against this but these young lads are expected to continue on regardless.  It seems to be getting worse over the last few years with games under lights being very common.

Does anyone know if the schools get any money out of the gates the way counties do because if they did maybe they are happy to play games at night?  Participating counties in a championship match get a cut of the gates (10% ?) so maybe schools are the same.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on February 02, 2014, 01:30:37 AM
Quote from: tyroneboi on January 31, 2014, 06:51:57 PM
Academy match moved to Sunday in Eglish at 2.

Further postponed I hear.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on February 05, 2014, 09:28:08 PM
St Pats Maghera beat St Mary's Magherafelt this evening in the Macrory
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 05, 2014, 09:40:19 PM
Video: See tonight's goals as St Pats Maghera beat St Mary's in the Danske Bank MacRory Cup before 1500 at Owenbeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g2DdHctIGI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g2DdHctIGI)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on February 06, 2014, 09:22:40 AM
Very easy win for St Pat's last night against St Marys Magherafelt.  They played a lot of good football and also played as a team. That game will bring them on a lot for the quarter.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on February 06, 2014, 09:43:22 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on February 06, 2014, 09:22:40 AM
Very easy win for St Pat's last night against St Marys Magherafelt.  They played a lot of good football and also played as a team. That game will bring them on a lot for the quarter.
Alot tougher assignment against Mccartans in the 1/4 finals. Promises to be a great match up and game which I fancy Mccartans just to edge, overall winners could come from this tie. Either way one off the favourites will be going out, good news for all the remaining teams.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on February 06, 2014, 10:03:23 AM
Who are favourites now ?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 06, 2014, 06:08:01 PM
The Academy beat St Pats Armagh this afternoon in Cookstown, tho the highlight was this goal by All Star Conor McKenna for Armagh -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcqXI-mya2w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcqXI-mya2w)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 11, 2014, 08:50:20 AM
Some game last night.. St Colman's 2-17 St Ciaran's Ballygawley 4-9.. see all the goals and reaction here
http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on February 11, 2014, 09:12:28 AM
Must have been a great game to watch - all attack no defence? Haughey may have been in the Down minor panel last year put I don't remember him starting any games, he certainly seems to be on fire at the moment.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on February 12, 2014, 10:32:14 PM
Abbey/ dungannon match now on tomorrow night
Close one to call but think abbey might squeeze through.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on February 13, 2014, 08:59:23 PM
As I said close game which was a credit to colleges football
Game ended all square 2-13 each
Abbey looked dead and buried with 4 mins left but pulled a goal and a point against wind to equalise .
The dungannon firstgoal was a top class  effort from a Rory mc gloane( I think)
Classy player .
Poor conditions but two strong teams
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: haranguerer on February 13, 2014, 09:51:45 PM
Great goal, but what exactly is the craic with steps these days? Are you allowed as many as you want if you're about to pull the trigger?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on February 13, 2014, 09:58:37 PM
Fair comment but in real time it looked great
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: haranguerer on February 13, 2014, 10:04:18 PM
I can imagine, and I'd have been as pissed off as anyone else if the ref had blew...but with all the talk about enforcing rules, it's one that seems to be just left to any refs interpretation. Like if you were strolling out of defence with no one round you, you'd be blown for 4 and a half steps, but when you're going by men or bearing down on goal, you'll get away with 8. It's just strange
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: SkillfulBill on February 13, 2014, 10:38:39 PM
The refing in that game was seriously suspect. The Abbey can without doubt thank Higgins for keeping them in the competition. In the closing mins he allowed a 14 yard free to be retaken after been missed. Academy 4 pts up with 2 mins left on clock Academy played a long ball into Fintan McClure at fullforward. McClure was out in front and was clearly pushed in the back. Ref gives a free out for touching ball on ground not even the most partisan in the ground could understand it. Had the decision been made fairly Academy would have pointed and been 5 up game over. Instead ball goes down the other end goal. Ref calls 3 mins extra time. Abbey equalises in the 4 min of extra time. I dont often comment on ref'ing but i did find that display very questionable.It's not up to the man in the middle to have such an impact on the result.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Man Marker on February 13, 2014, 10:58:59 PM
That particular ref is the definition of a complete tube
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 13, 2014, 11:16:38 PM
Video report from tonight's MacRory Cup draw, St Patrick's Academy Dungannon 2-13 Abbey CBS  2-13 http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: BADONEY on February 13, 2014, 11:19:14 PM
One has got to admire the comeback from Abbey even with the refs assistance , this draw and tomorrow nights postponement leaves the  fixtures body in a pickle , any word when the Colmans v Omagh is scheduled.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: SkillfulBill on February 13, 2014, 11:31:07 PM
Can't fault the Abbey at all for sticking with it and making the most of a poor official. What concerns me is that i think he may be an inter county ref. I think he had one of Ballinderrys games in the ulster club did Kevin Collins do something to upset him ?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 14, 2014, 08:12:10 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on February 13, 2014, 10:38:39 PM
The refing in that game was seriously suspect. The Abbey can without doubt thank Higgins for keeping them in the competition. In the closing mins he allowed a 14 yard free to be retaken after been missed. Academy 4 pts up with 2 mins left on clock Academy played a long ball into Fintan McClure at fullforward. McClure was out in front and was clearly pushed in the back. Ref gives a free out for touching ball on ground not even the most partisan in the ground could understand it. Had the decision been made fairly Academy would have pointed and been 5 up game over. Instead ball goes down the other end goal. Ref calls 3 mins extra time. Abbey equalises in the 4 min of extra time. I dont often comment on ref'ing but i did find that display very questionable.It's not up to the man in the middle to have such an impact on the result.

Academy have only themselves to blame. With the exception of a fifteen minute spell before half-time, they were far and away the better side.

With regards to your points above, the free wasn't from 14 yards; it was closer to fifty yards and was moved forward for the second attempt due to some sort of skullduggery from the Academy players when the first attempt was being taken. In the incident involving McClure (assuming it was the same one), the ball had passed both players and McClure was blown for a push, clearly signalled by Higgins. I thought the 3 minutes injury time was skimpy enough, given a couple of quite long stoppages for injuries to Academy players. The Abbey goal was scored after 32 minutes and 20 seconds; they won the kickout and a free kick was correctly awarded during the ensuing attack. As a neutral I thought Higgins got all three calls spot on.

Not his fault the Academy, whatever an academy is, couldn't close the game out. they should win the replay relatively comfortably though.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on February 14, 2014, 08:59:58 AM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 14, 2014, 08:12:10 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on February 13, 2014, 10:38:39 PM
The refing in that game was seriously suspect. The Abbey can without doubt thank Higgins for keeping them in the competition. In the closing mins he allowed a 14 yard free to be retaken after been missed. Academy 4 pts up with 2 mins left on clock Academy played a long ball into Fintan McClure at fullforward. McClure was out in front and was clearly pushed in the back. Ref gives a free out for touching ball on ground not even the most partisan in the ground could understand it. Had the decision been made fairly Academy would have pointed and been 5 up game over. Instead ball goes down the other end goal. Ref calls 3 mins extra time. Abbey equalises in the 4 min of extra time. I dont often comment on ref'ing but i did find that display very questionable.It's not up to the man in the middle to have such an impact on the result.

I agree the ref got it right plus Academy did try to waste as much time as they could and have only themselves for not closing the game out. I thought if the Abbey had taken their chances in the 1st half the game would have been over, missed alot of frees. Can't see the Abbey playing as poorly again but Gromley needs to have a serious look at how he is lining his team out especailly in midfield and half back line. Number 8 for Acamemy had a great game, maybe a few too many steps for his goal but great to see a young lad playing football in such a positive manner.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on February 14, 2014, 12:48:17 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 14, 2014, 08:12:10 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on February 13, 2014, 10:38:39 PM
The refing in that game was seriously suspect. The Abbey can without doubt thank Higgins for keeping them in the competition. In the closing mins he allowed a 14 yard free to be retaken after been missed. Academy 4 pts up with 2 mins left on clock Academy played a long ball into Fintan McClure at fullforward. McClure was out in front and was clearly pushed in the back. Ref gives a free out for touching ball on ground not even the most partisan in the ground could understand it. Had the decision been made fairly Academy would have pointed and been 5 up game over. Instead ball goes down the other end goal. Ref calls 3 mins extra time. Abbey equalises in the 4 min of extra time. I dont often comment on ref'ing but i did find that display very questionable.It's not up to the man in the middle to have such an impact on the result.

Academy have only themselves to blame. With the exception of a fifteen minute spell before half-time, they were far and away the better side.

With regards to your points above, the free wasn't from 14 yards; it was closer to fifty yards and was moved forward for the second attempt due to some sort of skullduggery from the Academy players when the first attempt was being taken. In the incident involving McClure (assuming it was the same one), the ball had passed both players and McClure was blown for a push, clearly signalled by Higgins. I thought the 3 minutes injury time was skimpy enough, given a couple of quite long stoppages for injuries to Academy players. The Abbey goal was scored after 32 minutes and 20 seconds; they won the kickout and a free kick was correctly awarded during the ensuing attack. As a neutral I thought Higgins got all three calls spot on.

Not his fault the Academy, whatever an academy is, couldn't close the game out. they should win the replay relatively comfortably though.
still think this is a 50/50 game
abbey should have led by more at half time, referee was ok for both teams, I actually think it is easy a lot of the times to blame the ref but dungannon concede a poor goal in injury time when they had at least 4 guys between mc coy/ and the nets
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lenny on February 14, 2014, 07:28:21 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on February 13, 2014, 10:04:18 PM
I can imagine, and I'd have been as pissed off as anyone else if the ref had blew...but with all the talk about enforcing rules, it's one that seems to be just left to any refs interpretation. Like if you were strolling out of defence with no one round you, you'd be blown for 4 and a half steps, but when you're going by men or bearing down on goal, you'll get away with 8. It's just strange

Some forwards seem to get away with the steps rule. Sean cavanagh takes about 10 steps every time he does his dummy but i've never seen him blown for it. By the way its great to get highlights of these games on the ulster colleges website. Young haughey from colmans looks a great prospect. Two really good goals in last nights game also.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on February 16, 2014, 01:46:38 AM
When and where is Monaghan and  Maghera playing ?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Itchy on February 16, 2014, 03:11:28 PM
St Pats Cavan 0.5 v St Michaels Enniskillen 0.4 at half time in mcrory cup.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Westside on February 16, 2014, 04:00:31 PM
Sounded like a good game in Clones. Cavan let a 3 point lead slip and were going into injury time trailing by a point before Thomas Galligan scored a goal to put Pat's through to the Semi Finals.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 16, 2014, 09:08:52 PM
Here's the late goal and point by St Patricks Cavan to beat St Michaels Enniskillen in today's Danske Bank MacRory Cup QF http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on February 18, 2014, 09:23:18 AM
Anyone know where and what time the college v  omagh game is?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bannside on February 18, 2014, 02:48:09 PM
Who are the College?????
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on February 18, 2014, 02:57:05 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 18, 2014, 02:48:09 PM
Who are the College?????
Bannside you jest, St Colmans probably the most successful side in the competition
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: never kickt a ball on February 18, 2014, 03:02:55 PM
Quote from: elk on February 18, 2014, 09:23:18 AM
Anyone know where and what time the college v  omagh game is?

MacRory fixtures
February 18, 2014

The following fixtures were confirmed today. However given the weather, the state and availablity of pitches, these could well change. Please keep an eye on Twitter for updates.

Danske Bank MacRory Cup quarter-final replay

Thursday, 7.30pm in Inniskeen : Abbey CBS v St Patrick's Dungannon.

Danske Bank MacRory Cup quarter-finals

Friday, 7.30pm in Athletic Grounds :

St Patrick's Maghera v St Macartan's Monaghan


Saturday 2pm in Clones:

St Colman's Newry v Omagh CBS
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bannside on February 18, 2014, 08:15:54 PM
Oh THE college. Jesting HS. I know Violet Hill self claim the rights to that title but there are a few pretenders who that word drives crazy.

Fancy THE Academy myself lol.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on February 20, 2014, 04:50:14 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 18, 2014, 08:15:54 PM
Oh THE college. Jesting HS. I know Violet Hill self claim the rights to that title but there are a few pretenders who that word drives crazy.

Fancy THE Academy myself lol.

I think the Abbey with Paddy Power at 7/4 are very tempting odds for tonights match.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on February 20, 2014, 08:45:41 PM
Abbey 0-06 St Pats 0-05 ht

St pats with the wind second half
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rodney trotter on February 20, 2014, 09:08:40 PM
Abbey 0-10 Dungannon 1- 10 latest
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on February 20, 2014, 09:30:53 PM
academy win by 4 in the end
wasn't at it so cant give an update
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 20, 2014, 10:13:31 PM
Video: See the only goal in 2nite's Danske Bank MacRory Cup QF replay, St Patrick's Academy 1-12 Abbey CBS 0-11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uck2yOWzm2g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uck2yOWzm2g)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on February 21, 2014, 09:32:00 AM
Quote from: naka on February 20, 2014, 09:30:53 PM
academy win by 4 in the end
wasn't at it so cant give an update

The difference was Academy played as a team and took their chances. Abbey forwards extremely wasteful, particularly one corner forward who played as an individual not passing the ball when he should have and shooting from impossible angles. Fantastic venue. Would suggest Academy have a lot of work to do defensively, based on the amount of scoring chances the Abbey had.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Brick Tamlin on February 21, 2014, 10:14:33 AM
Name the corner forward.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on February 21, 2014, 11:52:24 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on February 21, 2014, 10:14:33 AM
Name the corner forward.
13 or 15 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ? I'm sure anyone who took the time to go to the game will be able to work it out.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 21, 2014, 12:25:27 PM
Quote from: elk on February 21, 2014, 11:52:24 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on February 21, 2014, 10:14:33 AM
Name the corner forward.
13 or 15 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ? I'm sure anyone who took the time to go to the game will be able to work it out.

And anyone who took the time to go to the game would know 15 didn't start.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on February 21, 2014, 12:47:59 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 21, 2014, 12:25:27 PM
Quote from: elk on February 21, 2014, 11:52:24 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on February 21, 2014, 10:14:33 AM
Name the corner forward.
13 or 15 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ? I'm sure anyone who took the time to go to the game will be able to work it out.

And anyone who took the time to go to the game would know 15 didn't start.
only leaves one candidate then
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rodney trotter on February 21, 2014, 09:17:38 PM
Danske Bank MacRory Cup Semi final Draw: (1) Omagh or St. Colman's v St. Pats, Dungannon (2) Maghera v Cavan
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 21, 2014, 09:39:23 PM
Quote from: elk on February 21, 2014, 12:47:59 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 21, 2014, 12:25:27 PM
Quote from: elk on February 21, 2014, 11:52:24 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on February 21, 2014, 10:14:33 AM
Name the corner forward.
13 or 15 hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ? I'm sure anyone who took the time to go to the game will be able to work it out.

And anyone who took the time to go to the game would know 15 didn't start.
only leaves one candidate then

And a cheap enough shot at a 17 year old on your part. He had a decent game IMO.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 22, 2014, 12:17:48 AM
Video: St Pats Maghera score 2 goals against St Macartans in the Danske Bank MacRory Cup tonight in Armagh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hpF51CyFt0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hpF51CyFt0)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: superbad on February 22, 2014, 09:56:37 AM
Went down to Armagh last night fully expecting to see a Monaghan win based on their league performances but to be truthful they played second fiddle to a good Maghera team. Monaghan played very defensive despite having a number of good forwards on the team. Very surprised at this . They seemed to loose their discipline also. How many of the Maghera team played last year? Still cant understand how Derry minors aren't making an impression in Ulster.
Off to Clonoes today to see the College against Omagh. Does anyone know anything about Omagh? Need to up the performance from the last day. Cant rely on Jack Haughey in every game. Expect us to pull through okay
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 22, 2014, 12:56:39 PM
Video: See action & reaction from St Pat's Maghera 3-7 St Macartans 2-4 in last night's Danske Bank MacRory QF http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on February 22, 2014, 01:24:17 PM
Maghera will be hard stopped. Lethal forward line.

Strong all over the pitch.

Can't see them bate now.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Jimmy on February 22, 2014, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: superbad on February 22, 2014, 09:56:37 AM
How many of the Maghera team played last year?

Ciaran McCloy, Oisin Hegerty, Cathal Mulholland, Peter Hagan, Conor Glass, Cormac O'Doherty, and Danny Tallon all started last years team.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on February 22, 2014, 02:20:58 PM
Quote from: Jimmy on February 22, 2014, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: superbad on February 22, 2014, 09:56:37 AM
How many of the Maghera team played last year?

Ciaran McCloy, Oisin Hegerty, Cathal Mulholland, Peter Hagan, Conor Glass, Cormac O'Doherty, and Danny Tallon all started last years team.

Won't be bate.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bannside on February 22, 2014, 02:40:10 PM
Class act HS. Havent seen anything better at his age.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on February 22, 2014, 02:45:42 PM
What time does Omagh game throw in?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rodney trotter on February 22, 2014, 02:51:13 PM
Its half time in it.. https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FUlster_Colleges&ei=LLkIU-OTLIvQ7AaAooGQAQ&usg=AFQjCNEyTBH8YqvVhFaL4yiZqBg-bLBKzA
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on February 22, 2014, 03:28:31 PM
Full time 1-12 apiece. Omagh were 7 up early tomorrow in 2nd half. Extra time?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rory on February 25, 2014, 02:00:12 PM
Colmans - Omagh replay:

FT 1-11 each
ET Omagh 1-14 - Colmans 1-13

Sounds like an unbelievable game

Colmans missed a penalty in the second period of ET
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on February 25, 2014, 02:09:33 PM
Quote from: Any craic on February 22, 2014, 12:56:39 PM
Video: See action & reaction from St Pat's Maghera 3-7 St Macartans 2-4 in last night's Danske Bank MacRory QF http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org)

another great team performances from St Pats on Friday night. We really dominated the contest and I suppose have set our stall out now. a different team from last year, in that last years team had a lot of physically big men on it, this year is not as big , but no doubt we have a couple of big lads, but due to that we have to play a smarter game of football. What I thought was obvious was that we knew how to win, that know how from last season and the success the players have had with their clubs shone through, we knew to play it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: God14 on February 25, 2014, 02:13:03 PM
McRory has had some incredible matches already this year & two semi finals & final yet to come. Fancied Maghera from the start, and wont change horses now.
Dungannon V Omagh this Saturday will be a tasty affair.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on February 25, 2014, 02:18:25 PM
Great to see the CBS coming through to the semi final, always good to have a Tyrone representative playing on Paddy's day. Well done to all involved.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 25, 2014, 02:47:57 PM
Video: See a dramatic penalty save by Omagh CBS keeper Packie O'Neill to win today's MacRory Cup QF replay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se-_zjSstLQ
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: God14 on February 25, 2014, 03:50:18 PM
Hard to tell from the camera angle, but keeper looks well off his line?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: everymanaman on February 25, 2014, 04:07:25 PM
Two Tyrone schools meeting at a Monaghan venue. Sad reflection of clubs in Tyrone that a venue within the county isn't available.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on February 25, 2014, 04:15:31 PM
Quote from: everymanaman on February 25, 2014, 04:07:25 PM
Two Tyrone schools meeting at a Monaghan venue. Sad reflection of clubs in Tyrone that a venue within the county isn't available.


Eh ?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on February 25, 2014, 04:27:52 PM
Quote from: everymanaman on February 25, 2014, 04:07:25 PM
Two Tyrone schools meeting at a Monaghan venue. Sad reflection of clubs in Tyrone that a venue within the county isn't available.

You'd think Dunmoyle,  Pomeroy or Carrickmore would have been perfect for this tie.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: everymanaman on February 25, 2014, 04:30:04 PM
Agree but it seems clubs don't want to give their pitches.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: roney on February 25, 2014, 04:36:43 PM
wtf? why is it not in Garvaghey? that's what those pitches were supposed to be for. the likes of this
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on February 25, 2014, 05:00:05 PM
Quote from: God14 on February 25, 2014, 03:50:18 PM
Hard to tell from the camera angle, but keeper looks well off his line?
I would be unhappy with the management
take the point
get the replay
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on February 25, 2014, 07:27:31 PM
Anymore highlights anycraic?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: NP 76 on February 25, 2014, 09:18:19 PM
Don't get what you mean Naka chance of a goal to win the game with the last kick I thought he made the right choice. I myself wouldn't if been keen on him hitting it I would of went for O Hagan who was outstanding and was full of confidence
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on February 25, 2014, 09:38:06 PM
Quote from: NP 76 on February 25, 2014, 09:18:19 PM
Don't get what you mean Naka chance of a goal to win the game with the last kick I thought he made the right choice. I myself wouldn't if been keen on him hitting it I would of went for O Hagan who was outstanding and was full of confidence
I play percentages as a manager
My view last minute  in a knock out game take certainty
Get another game
It was a heavy pitch and the guys had played 2 halves of extra time
Sometimes you have to take sensible option
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: NP 76 on February 25, 2014, 09:51:10 PM
Suppose it could of been tired minds of the young lads that contributed to the decision but at that stage I think he took the right option and had a go. There was talk in the stand that it had to be played out today as the winners are out Saturday again in the next round
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on February 25, 2014, 10:40:19 PM
Np
Cathal Murray or mussein should have made the call as both are experienced.
Would have seen the replay on Thursday.
Am not a college man but genuinely disappointed for the kid who missed.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 25, 2014, 11:08:56 PM
Here you go Omagh Gael, all the best bits in a 2-minute report. Some brilliant blocks, dramatic misses, saves and scores. Sure it's not bad for a Tuesday lunchtime in Emyvale.. http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on February 26, 2014, 02:51:33 PM
Cheers for that J. Should be a great match on Saturday.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: elk on February 26, 2014, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: naka on February 25, 2014, 10:40:19 PM
Np
Cathal Murray or mussein should have made the call as both are experienced.
Would have seen the replay on Thursday.
Am not a college man but genuinely disappointed for the kid who missed.
I agree, tough on the young lad but fairplay at least he wasn't afraid to take on the responsiblity, would have been a hero if he had score though. Thought Haugey would have been their go to man in a situation like that.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 27, 2014, 08:15:51 AM
Video: See extended highlights from last night's MacLarnon Semi-final as St Eunan's Letterkeny beat St Malachy's Belfast at a very wet and windy Garvaghey..
http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/video-st-eunans-rain-supreme-danske-bank-maclarnon-cup-extended-highlights/ (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/video-st-eunans-rain-supreme-danske-bank-maclarnon-cup-extended-highlights/)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 27, 2014, 08:35:15 AM
Video: Cavan legend Ollie Brady backs Class of 2014 for tomorrow's MacRory Cup Semi - St Pat's Cavan vs Maghera. It's hard to believe that Cavan haven't won or even been in a MacRory Final since these boys won it in 1972..
http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/video-cavan-legends-support-class-2014/ (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/video-cavan-legends-support-class-2014/)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on February 27, 2014, 10:38:36 AM
Quote from: Any craic on February 27, 2014, 08:15:51 AM
Video: See extended highlights from last night's MacLarnon Semi-final as St Eunan's Letterkeny beat St Malachy's Belfast at a very wet and windy Garvaghey..
http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/video-st-eunans-rain-supreme-danske-bank-maclarnon-cup-extended-highlights/ (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/video-st-eunans-rain-supreme-danske-bank-maclarnon-cup-extended-highlights/)

Wet and windy ?

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: everymanaman on February 27, 2014, 02:08:11 PM
Quote from: orangeman on February 27, 2014, 10:38:36 AM
Quote from: Any craic on February 27, 2014, 08:15:51 AM
Video: See extended highlights from last night's MacLarnon Semi-final as St Eunan's Letterkeny beat St Malachy's Belfast at a very wet and windy Garvaghey..
http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/video-st-eunans-rain-supreme-danske-bank-maclarnon-cup-extended-highlights/ (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/video-st-eunans-rain-supreme-danske-bank-maclarnon-cup-extended-highlights/)

Wet and windy ?

That's a given
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: oakleaflad on February 28, 2014, 09:38:18 PM
Final Score: St.Pats Maghera 0-09 St. Pats Cavan 1-04
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 28, 2014, 09:56:42 PM
Video: See the Cavan goal and some superb long-range points from tonight's Danske Bank MacRory Cup Semi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx7_vALb3xA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx7_vALb3xA)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on March 01, 2014, 03:18:26 PM
Omagh with the jitters again.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on March 01, 2014, 05:14:46 PM
Wouldn't want to cause you fellas from the East too much psychological damage so we kept it tight for you ;-)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on March 01, 2014, 06:41:32 PM
See two short Videos from today's MacRory Cup Semi-final win for Omagh CBS vs the Academy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95Nk94Yv0V8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95Nk94Yv0V8) & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISIXj3xo8xk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISIXj3xo8xk)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 02, 2014, 08:20:49 PM
Superb victory on Friday night. Thank God that St Pats Cavan were beaten playing crap football like that, no harm playing a sweeper, but that had four for half the game, brutal football form them and delighted to see them gone. Can't St Pats getting beaten.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: superbad on March 17, 2014, 08:03:54 PM
Congratulations to St Patrick's, Maghera on winning the MacRory Cup. Some talent on show today. Certainly argues well for the futire of Derry football.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on March 17, 2014, 09:33:01 PM
Maghera were better side. Omagh put it up to them but Maghera had some huge performers to get them over the line. Beating last year's Hogan champs was never going to be easily done.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 17, 2014, 11:26:26 PM
Over the line, maghera should have won pulling up they were so dominant in the 2nd half, Maghera may be worried that they dditn put them away when they were so much on top. The Maghera goal was a double bounce, plus a dodgy foot block which could have been a penalty, could have lead to a tighter game. Maghera are very strong at midfield and Tallon has the makings of a great palyer at 14, the question i am starting to ask is why si the Derry minor teams up the left with a good pick of players available over the past 2/3yrs
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on March 17, 2014, 11:36:10 PM
Hopefully Maghera can express themselves now with less pressure in the all Ireland series. Last year it all came together in the final and they played their best football of the year.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 18, 2014, 10:30:16 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 02, 2014, 08:20:49 PM
Superb victory on Friday night. Thank God that St Pats Cavan were beaten playing crap football like that, no harm playing a sweeper, but that had four for half the game, brutal football form them and delighted to see them gone. Can't St Pats getting beaten.

As predicted by my good self lol,(tongue in cheek). Best team on show, won it easily in the 2 nd half, the blast after half time made the difference, although in fairness to Omagh the ref made a balls of the double bounce. Irrespective St Pats were the best team, and it would have been hard to see Omagh winning even if the ref had of blown, they just didn't have the players good enough on the pitch. That should have made it three in a row for us, but we made a balls of in that 1st final, none more so than the management, who in fairness learnt as much as anyone could, and made it count last year.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rodney trotter on March 18, 2014, 10:34:57 AM
Pats Cavan would have been depleted in that Semi. They were without 3 of this years Cavan Minors, who are all forwards. One came off the bench near the end.

Maghera were impressive in the second half yesterday. Danny Tallon showing very well and Conor Glass. Tallon got some good fortune with that the goal,
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Aerlik on March 19, 2014, 02:12:57 AM
Congrats to the auld alma mater on yet another MacRory Cup win.  (Never get fed up with these).
Title: Seo
Post by: drici on March 29, 2014, 05:29:52 PM
https://twitter.com/radiokerrysport


(http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab56/declanrice/30_zps7b240a98.png)
Title: Re: Seo
Post by: theticklemister on March 29, 2014, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: drici on March 29, 2014, 05:29:52 PM
https://twitter.com/radiokerrysport


(http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab56/declanrice/30_zps7b240a98.png)

Take it down from the mast............
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on March 29, 2014, 07:51:17 PM
No need for that rubbish - Kerry radio will be embarrassed.
Title: Anois
Post by: drici on March 29, 2014, 09:25:48 PM
https://twitter.com/search?q=face%20maghera&src=typd&f=realtime
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on March 29, 2014, 09:39:53 PM
Time to partition the students for this game.

Put one side in the Hogan and the Kerry lads on the Upper deck of the Cusack.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 29, 2014, 09:56:36 PM
No big deal. Tyrone and Armagh fools have been at it for years. At least we now know where Mike Sheehy is employed.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: T Fearon on March 30, 2014, 02:48:38 AM
Is Anna Lo working for Radio Kerry?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 31, 2014, 11:24:47 AM
Top quality performance from St Maghera on sat in Newry. What was so pleasing from this performance apart from the win was that our two main players had quitter games, which meant others players took on the responsibility and it didn't effect the team negatively. Roll on Croke Park.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on April 10, 2014, 03:55:02 PM
St Pats play in the Hogan final on Saturday, you could call it super weekend football. The Hogan final followed by Derry in the NFL semi on Sunday with both games in Croke Park. Maghera are slight favourites due to having the experience from last year, but both teams won there semi finals with nine points to spare. It all points to a very close game. It is live on TG4
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on April 12, 2014, 11:20:05 AM
Good luck to Maghera today. Back to back Hogans coming up. Bit of history in the making.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: maigheo on April 12, 2014, 01:25:19 PM
what time is the game on?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on April 12, 2014, 01:30:00 PM
Colleges finals on TG4 now
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2014, 01:36:13 PM
What's the game on now? Is it vocational schools final?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Zulu on April 12, 2014, 01:54:32 PM
B final - Ballincollig (Cork) 0-4 St. Aidan's (Dublin) 1-2 (24 min gone)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2014, 02:01:54 PM
Cheers. Quite entertaining.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on April 12, 2014, 02:07:28 PM
Maghera on at 3.15.  It would take a good team to beat them.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rodney trotter on April 12, 2014, 02:21:34 PM
Magheras display last year in the Hogan Final against Pats Navan was unreal. A good number still involved like Danny Tallon, Conor Glass, who is still 16.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on April 12, 2014, 02:25:12 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on April 12, 2014, 02:21:34 PM
Magheras display last year in the Hogan Final against Pats Navan was unreal. A good number still involved like Danny Tallon, Conor Glass, who is still 16.

Yes they really did keep the best wine till last.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on April 12, 2014, 03:06:10 PM


Link for game............http://www.tg4.ie/en/player/tg4-player.html
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnpower on April 12, 2014, 03:35:25 PM
Do black cards apply in this game?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 12, 2014, 03:37:00 PM
Quote from: johnpower on April 12, 2014, 03:35:25 PM
Do black cards apply in this game?

Yes, poor fare so far.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on April 12, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
STRANGE GAME OF FOOTBALL HERE
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 12, 2014, 03:45:43 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on April 12, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
STRANGE GAME OF FOOTBALL HERE

Football is not what I would call it,  hybrid with Rugby league.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 12, 2014, 03:47:53 PM
Terrible game of football, the Kerry team playing rightly but cant score and Maghera are playing very poor, they play any at all there be 10 points in it. Game before was alot better
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on April 12, 2014, 03:49:20 PM
Maghera have flooded a lot of men back, but they have failed to break at speed.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 12, 2014, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on April 12, 2014, 03:49:20 PM
Maghera have flooded a lot of men back, but they have failed to break at speed.

They seemed to be playing against a strong enough wind,  I would like to think they will go ahead and try to win the game with football.  Horrible tactics at the minute.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 12, 2014, 04:09:22 PM
N0.15 should have fisted hit there instead of taking a swing with his boot, The kerry lads have found their feet. maghera still in the same gear as the 1st half, stuck in 1st!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2014, 04:23:37 PM
Maghera struggling here. Kerry boys a lot more mobile.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 12, 2014, 04:24:43 PM
Maghera are absolutely brutal the day, a point behind they are playing as if they are in front.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on April 12, 2014, 04:28:56 PM
shocking decision
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on April 12, 2014, 04:31:13 PM
Better team in front though. 4,5 and 15 causing havoc in particular. Glass anonymous this half.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 12, 2014, 04:34:24 PM
bad showing from maghera, 5Pt's up at halftime playing badly, should have ignited them in the 2nd half, instead the Kerry lads found their shooting boots, scoring 1.6 to a 0.1 at the min in the 2nd half. Cleaned out on break ball round middle of the field all day, tactically its hard to work out what the game plan was,Outside of a couple of defenders its hard to say who played well for St Pats, but to be 5 up and throw it away is not a good day at the office.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 12, 2014, 04:36:39 PM
As is usual in the case of gaelic, the best team on the day won, and even though 5 down at halftime they played all the football
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: oakleafgael on April 12, 2014, 04:37:34 PM
Maghera where abject today and because of that they probably didn't deserve anything but the standard of refereeing was appalling.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 12, 2014, 04:38:23 PM
The Kerry lads played football to win whereas the Maghera lads played to not lose. They had the talent to win it but seemed very flat and heavy legged. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: AQMP on April 12, 2014, 04:41:03 PM
With a bit of composure PCD would have won by 10. Awful 2nd half from Maghera. There was only one team in it at the end.
Title: Scaifte
Post by: drici on April 12, 2014, 04:45:00 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlCCWUZIgAAWWLM.jpg)

The ones who went to Béal Feirsde instead missed the match.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Throw ball on April 12, 2014, 07:17:06 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on April 12, 2014, 04:37:34 PM
Maghera where abject today and because of that they probably didn't deserve anything but the standard of refereeing was appalling.

To be fair that is proving the rule rather than the exception.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on April 12, 2014, 08:04:26 PM
The Maghera manager was also the Derrytresk manager.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: 5 Sams on April 12, 2014, 08:38:57 PM
Some of the fielding in MF today from both sides was astounding. Maghera could have had the game won at half time but that was some performance from PCD in the 2nd half. I'd love to know what Fitz and Tommy G said at half time. Hard to believe Kerry havent won a minor AI since 1994. Is West Kerry leading the charge for more underage success for the Kingdom?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Blowitupref on April 12, 2014, 09:48:16 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on April 12, 2014, 08:38:57 PM
Some of the fielding in MF today from both sides was astounding. Maghera could have had the game won at half time but that was some performance from PCD in the 2nd half. I'd love to know what Fitz and Tommy G said at half time. Hard to believe Kerry havent won a minor AI since 1994. Is West Kerry leading the charge for more underage success for the Kingdom?
with Jack O Connor manager of their minors that long wait could be about to end
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on April 12, 2014, 09:54:58 PM
Well done to the Kerry men. A huge 2nd half performance from the Kerry lads. Kerry still able to produce brilliant, natural ball players.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Mike Sheehy on April 12, 2014, 11:21:04 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 29, 2014, 09:56:36 PM
No big deal. Tyrone and Armagh fools have been at it for years. At least we now know where Mike Sheehy is employed.

Jesus Christ you Nordies are so paranoid. It was obviously just some sort of autocorrect/autofinish thing.

<snigger>
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: cockahoop on April 13, 2014, 07:10:23 PM
Very disappointed with maghera  today,a lot of players seemed very heavy legged and dare I say a stone over weight!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on April 13, 2014, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: cockahoop on April 13, 2014, 07:10:23 PM
Very disappointed with maghera  today,a lot of players seemed very heavy legged and dare I say a stone over weight!!

They must have the weight on at half time cos they looked brilliant in the first half but didn't show up in the second half.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: cockahoop on April 13, 2014, 08:22:09 PM
I'm not going to single out players but it's very obvious they were way over weight and would struggle in the second half and apart from a 5 min spell they were far from good in the first half
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 13, 2014, 10:59:25 PM
i actually though they were poor in the 1st with Glass 1.1 making the scoring look lopsided at 1.4 to 0.2 at halftime, i thought the Kerry team were the better team in the 1st half but couldn't put it on the board.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: quiganmaster on April 13, 2014, 11:51:55 PM
Funny how you's old men can sit here and say 16/17/18 year olds look overweight when half you's couldn't run the length of yourself! These young boys are brilliant players as we have seen and very rarely lose a game. They have some great ball players but it just wasn't their day, they never got going and PCD deserved the win on the day! Unlucky SPC , did your families, friends, clubs, school, county and province proud!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on April 14, 2014, 12:28:56 PM
It looked like Maghera were not allowed to 'play' football by their tactics. Constant soloing and ponderous coming out of defence cost them.

Shit game of football.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on April 17, 2014, 06:20:44 PM
Omagh CBS won the 'A' standard Dalton Cup today, beating St Colman's, with some excellent players on show from both sides. See the last two goals here - http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org  (http://www.ulstercollegesgaa.org)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: nrico2006 on December 18, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Did Glass and Tallon both not get all Stars?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on December 18, 2014, 09:18:17 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Did Glass and Tallon both not get all Stars?

what was the team?

That Tallon man still in school?????????
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 18, 2014, 09:20:43 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on December 18, 2014, 09:18:17 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Did Glass and Tallon both not get all Stars?

what was the team?

That Tallon man still in school?????????

Tallon is first year at Uni and no Glass didn't get an All Star. Callum Mullan-Young was the Glen lad who got one this year.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on December 18, 2014, 09:36:13 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 18, 2014, 09:20:43 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on December 18, 2014, 09:18:17 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Did Glass and Tallon both not get all Stars?

what was the team?

That Tallon man still in school?????????

Tallon is first year at Uni and no Glass didn't get an All Star. Callum Mullan-Young was the Glen lad who got one this year.

Aye Tallon must be in his mid-20s
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: oakleaflad on December 19, 2014, 12:11:51 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on December 18, 2014, 09:36:13 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 18, 2014, 09:20:43 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on December 18, 2014, 09:18:17 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Did Glass and Tallon both not get all Stars?

what was the team?

That Tallon man still in school?????????

Tallon is first year at Uni and no Glass didn't get an All Star. Callum Mullan-Young was the Glen lad who got one this year.

Aye Tallon must be in his mid-20s
That wasn't funny the first time ;)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: nrico2006 on December 19, 2014, 12:13:34 PM
Thought they were both still at school.  Is it not a big shock that Glass didn't get one?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on December 21, 2014, 05:00:52 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 18, 2014, 09:20:43 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on December 18, 2014, 09:18:17 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 18, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Did Glass and Tallon both not get all Stars?

what was the team?

That Tallon man still in school?????????

Tallon is first year at Uni and no Glass didn't get an All Star. Callum Mullan-Young was the Glen lad who got one this year.

Congrats to young Mullan
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on January 30, 2015, 10:20:57 PM
Video: see a brilliant goal tonight for St Patrick's Academy in their Danske Bank MacRory Cup win over Magherafelt, 3-9 to 0-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPzczFapQ0Y&list=UUV9FRrEJ8GGtVudz5pb5AeQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPzczFapQ0Y&list=UUV9FRrEJ8GGtVudz5pb5AeQ)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 01, 2015, 04:22:37 PM
Video: See two first-half goals for St Colman's in today's Danske Bank MacRory Cup win over St Michael's at Emyvale.. No 5 Nickty Murray made the first and scored the second.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHnujtXinEE&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on February 13, 2015, 08:09:08 PM
Half time
Abbey 2-0
Omagh 0-5
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on February 13, 2015, 09:05:52 PM
Abbey 2-2
Omagh 0-8
Hard / tight game
Being an abbey man we had goal chances to win it but Omagh had last couple of wides
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 13, 2015, 11:38:53 PM
See video from tonight's draw, including the penalty which was harsh? Some great scores and some near misses from both teams... a draw fair enough in the end.. http://ulstercollegesgaa.org/general/videos-abbey-cbs-2-2-omagh-cbs-0-8/
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on February 15, 2015, 07:21:30 PM
Bessbrook ( St pauls) beat st col mans by 3
Good game
Best team won but it was a fine battle
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 15, 2015, 08:38:38 PM
See match highlights from Colmans v Bessbrook... some save at 3.10 to prevent a Colmans goal..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tovxGjY-P5o&list=UUV9FRrEJ8GGtVudz5pb5AeQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tovxGjY-P5o&list=UUV9FRrEJ8GGtVudz5pb5AeQ)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on February 15, 2015, 08:55:10 PM
The goal at that time would have put colmans in front so was the winning of the game
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: big balla on February 15, 2015, 10:12:20 PM
http://ulstercollegesgaa.org/football/easy-enough-macrory-cavan/
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: NP 76 on February 15, 2015, 11:27:27 PM
Your right Naka that save won the game for St. Paul's. Great game in really poor conditions. A credit to both sets of players and managers. I thought John Rafferty spent as much time on the field as some players today on top of the referee after every decision against him.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on February 16, 2015, 12:33:16 AM
Quote from: NP 76 on February 15, 2015, 11:27:27 PM
Your right Naka that save won the game for St. Paul's. Great game in really poor conditions. A credit to both sets of players and managers. I thought John Rafferty spent as much time on the field as some players today on top of the referee after every decision against him.

Pat has been away from the game for a while. John might have through the needed guidance on the new rules and was there in an advisory capacity.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 19, 2015, 12:10:02 AM
The Academy beat Maghera tonight.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_hrPvcxPYY&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_hrPvcxPYY&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 20, 2015, 09:00:12 PM
RESULT: Omagh CBS 0-12 Abbey CBS 0-9 in tonight's DB MacRory Cup replay.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on February 20, 2015, 11:03:22 PM
Good to see the Tyrone sides back mixing it. We had a bit of a hiatus there.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on February 20, 2015, 11:22:42 PM
Video: See 3 minutes of highlights from tonight's MacRory Cup win for Omagh CBS over Abbey CBS http://youtu.be/-BaAEmXs9No (http://youtu.be/-BaAEmXs9No)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: never kickt a ball on March 01, 2015, 06:19:17 PM
In the absence of Any craic

St Patrick's Cavan into MacRory Cup decider
St Patrick's Cavan reached their first MacRory Cup final since 1975 thanks to a convincing 1-12 to 2-4 win over Omagh CBS at Castleblayney.
The Breffni boys will meet St Patrick's Dungannon on St Patrick's Day.
Cathal Donaghy smashed home a ninth minute goal for Omagh but Thomas Edward Donohue found the net on 24 minutes as his side led 1-7 to 1-3 at half-time.
The Cavan side confirmed their dominance in the second half, although Gavin Slane scored a goal for Omagh.
A team with a terrific work ethic and a couple of accurate finishers, the Breffni lads turned in a committed display to reach their first decider for 40 years, when their manager was Cardinal Sean Brady.
After Donaghy's goal the Breffni county lads worked their way back with scores from corner men Donohue and Conor Smith to go level by the 21st minute.
And St Pat's then struck for a goal, Ben Conaty slipping the ball to Donohue for a clinical finish past Packie O'Neill.
Donohue's third converted free eased Cavan into a 1-7 to 1-3 interval lead, and once they got the wind in their backs in the second half, they thrived.
Centre back Cian McManus was a constant driving force from deep, and they added scores through Matthew McKenna, Donohue and a brilliant Pierce Smith effort.
A defensive error allowed Slane to nip in for a 52nd minute Omagh goal, but Cavan regained their composure to finish the job off with late scores from Smith, and Omagh finished with 14 men, following the straight red card dismissal of defender Eoghain Murray.
St Patrick's Cavan scorers: Thomas Edward Donohue 1-4 (3f), Pierce Smith 0-3 (2f), Conor Smith, Matthew McKenna 0-2 each, Ben Conaty 0-1.
Omagh CBS scorers: Gavin Slane, C Donaghy 1-0 each, James Darcy (f), John Harkin (f), Nathan Donnelly, Aidan McSorley 0-1 each.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 01, 2015, 06:30:17 PM
Outstanding First Half Puts Academy into MacRory Final

February 28, 2015

St Patrick's Academy Dungannon 3-11 St Paul's Bessbrook 1-10

An outstanding first half display paved the way for St Patrick's Academy Dungannon to reach the Danske Bank MacRory Cup final at the expense of St Paul's Bessbrook in Armagh last night.

With the wind at their backs the Tyrone school dominated the opening half to establish a 3-8 to 1-3 lead against the shell shocked MacCormack Cup winners. It could well have been worse for Bessbrook as the winners had two goals chalked off in the first half for square ball infringements.

The Academy couldn't have asked for a better start to the game with Ryan Coleman and Cormac O'Hagan combining for Daniel Kerr to get a goal with only thirty seconds gone on the clock. The next two scores turned out to be goals as well as first of all Shea Hoey levelled in the eighth minute. But almost immediately O'Hagan converted a penalty after Fintan McClure had been followed.
Wing back Liam Rafferty and Kerr tagged on points before Jody McGovern replied for Bessbrook. The superb Ryan Coleman then landed a brilliant point from distance before the same player exchanged passes with O'Hagan to fire to the net.

A speculative effort from centre half back Stephen Corr sailed all the way to the net but it was ruled out as was a finish moments later from Mark Donnelly. O'Hagan knocked over two frees before a relieved Bessbrook greeted the half time whistle.

In the opening minutes of the second half Hoey twice had good chances for goals but all he got was a point to show for his efforts and after that a superb Academy defence closed up shop with Ciaran Higgins, Stephen Corr and Michael McKernan to the fore.
Bessbrook were forced into shooting from long range and most of the time their shots were under severe pressure. Jody McGovern, Hoey, Caolan McConville and Miceal McNamee had points but the Academy maintained a safe distance thanks to efforts from Coleman and Rafferty as they made it through to the St.Patrick's Day showpiece.

St Patrick's Academy Dungannon: C Donaghy, C Barker, C Higgins, C Lyons, L Rafferty (0-2), S Corr, M McKernan, C Campbell (0-1), B Kennedy, C O'Hagan (1-2, 2f, 1-0pen), D Kerr (1-1), C Kilpatrick, R Coleman (1-3), F McClure (0-1,1f), M Donnelly (0-1).
Subs: P Molloy for Donnelly, N Muldoon for Corr, L Mallon for Kilpatrick, B Crealey for Kennedy

St Paul's Bessbrook: M Murphy, S Finnegan, C Boylan, K Mallon, D Loye, R Gaskin (0-1), F O'Rourke, C McConville (0-2), P Quinn, R McSherry, M McCabe, J McGovern (0-3), M McNamee (0-2, 2f), J Og Burns, S Hoey (1-2).
Subs: J Durnin for O'Rourke, P McArdle for Boyle, S Conlon for McSherry

Referee: J McQuillan, Cavan
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 01, 2015, 08:12:24 PM
Cavan Reach First MacRory Final in 40 Years
March 1, 2015

St Patrick's Cavan 1-12 Omagh CBS 2-4

St Patrick's Cavan are through to their first Danske Bank MacRory Cup final in 40 years after a thoroughly deserved five point success over Omagh CBS at Castleblayney yesterday afternoon.
The winners looked the better side throughout and they now face St.Patrick's Dungannon in the decider on St Patrick's Day.
St Patrick's Cavan led 1-7 to 1-3 at halftime and they were full value for that advantage after recovering from losing an early goal. Sixteen year old Thomas Edward Donohoe, who was a constant threat throughout, opened the scoring in the fifth minute for Cavan.
In the next attack Omagh almost grabbed a goal when a free from the left wing from James Darcy dropped in the danger zone and Nathan Donnelly pulled on it but Matthew McKenna made a great block on the line.
Donnelly then levelled matters before the Tyrone lads found the net in the 9th minute when Aiden Fullerton and Andrew McGrath combined for centre half back Cathal Donaghy to burst through and rifle the ball to the roof of the net.
Donohoe and Darcy traded points from frees before a superb effort from a tight angle from Conor Smith was followed by one from McKenna to level matters by the 21st minute.
Three minutes later Donohoe left a couple of players in his wake before smashing the ball to the net past keeper Patrick O'Neill. Full forward Ben Conaty tagged on a point and while John Harkin responded from a free, it was Donohoe who had the final say of the half from a placed ball as well.
It was Omagh who had the opening score of the second half with a well taken effort from Aiden McSorley that went over via the post. But Cavan lifted their game to dominate the rest of the third quarter. McKenna, Donohoe and McKenna all registered to leave them 1-10 to 1-4 in front.
It looked all over bar the shouting, but eight minutes from time the Tyrone lads were thrown a lifeline when Gavin Slane first timed the ball to the net. That proved to be their last score however as the winners stepped on the gas again.
Omagh keeper Patrick O'Neill made a great save to deny Donohoe but Cavan weren't going to be denied and two frees from the boot of Pierce Smith sealed victory and sent them through to a first decider since 1975. Omagh finished with fourteen men after full back Eoghan Murray was sent off a minute from time.
St Patrick's Cavan : F O'Rourke, D Lunney, D Monaghan, L Fortune, D Kennedy, C McManus, JJ McGovern, T Galligan, B Argue, P Smith (0-3, 2f), P Leddy, M McKenna (0-2), C Smith (0-2), B Conaty (0-1), T E Donohoe (1-4, 3f).
Subs : R O'Neill for Leddy, B McKiernan for Argue, D Wilson for Galligan
Omagh CBS : P O'Neill, P Keyes, E Murray, C Moss, O McGinn, C Donaghy (1-0), J Harkin (0-1,1f), P McGirr, J Darcy (0-1, 1f), N Donnelly (0-1), A McSorley (0-1), M Coreless, A McGrath, A Fullerton, G Slane (1-0).
Subs : R McKenna for Keyes, T Clarke for Donnelly, T McNamee for Fullerton, C Loughran for McSorley
Referee – C Branagan, Down
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on March 01, 2015, 08:52:21 PM
Video: See FULL match highlights as St Pat's Cavan beat Omagh CBS to reach their first MacRory Cup Final since 1975 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7918HMowwKA&list=UUV9FRrEJ8GGtVudz5pb5AeQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7918HMowwKA&list=UUV9FRrEJ8GGtVudz5pb5AeQ)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: dec on March 17, 2015, 07:19:38 PM
St Pat's Cavan clinch first MacRory Cup triumph in 43 years

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/gaelic-games/31926517

St Patrick's Cavan clinched their first MacRory Cup title since 1972 as they beat St Patrick's Academy Dungannon 2-12 to 0-8 at Armagh. Cavan led 0-5 to 0-2 but then needed a superb Fergal O'Rourke save to keep them 0-6 to 0-4 ahead at half-time. Dungannon levelled after half-time as O'Rourke made another great save to turn a Daniel Kerr shot over the bar. However, Cavan hit five straight points to lead 0-11 to 0-6 and two late Thomas Edward Donohue goals sealed their win.

Donohue produced a tremendous display at the Athletic Grounds as the notched 2-3 but the man of the match award went to powerful Cavan midfielder Thomas Galligan whose all-action performance was key to his school's first MacRory title in 43 years. Dungannon led twice early on but despite losing influential full-forward Ben Conaty because of an ankle injury, Cavan moved into a 0-5 to 0-2 lead with the superb Galligan among their scorers. Cavan keeper O'Rourke made the first of his two magnificent saves as his strong hand somehow kept out Fintan McClure's point-blank chance although points from Daniel Kerr and Cormac O'Hagan did help cut the deficit to 0-6 to 0-4 at half-time.

The match appeared to be turning in Dungannon's favour after the restart as they quickly drew level and in fact should have been ahead as O'Rourke somehow diverted Kerr's goal-bound shot over the crossbar. However, midfielder Brendan Argue restored Cavan's lead with a fine effort from play and after Pierce Smith had struck another Cavan point, Dungannon suffered a blow when full-forward Fintan McClure was black carded for a body check. Two O'Donohue frees and Darragh Kennedy's second superb point left Cavan in control at 0-11 to 0-6 up after 48 minutes.

Cormac O'Hagan's point cut the Cavan lead but Donohue's first goal after a sweeping move ended the game as a contest. Donohue's goal heroics weren't over as he produced a delightful close-range finish after being superbly picked out by Galligan.

In the all-Monaghan MacLarnon Cup final, Our Lady's Castleblayney defeated Patrician Carrickmacross 4-8 to 0-8.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on March 17, 2015, 07:26:45 PM
Video: See Cavan's 2 goals in today's MacRory Final and an 'attempt' to interview the goalscorer.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhDIfjtoeIE&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 17, 2015, 09:56:51 PM
G who dressed Marty Clarke the day, was that what has been going for style in the land down under past few years, oh boy!!
Marty Clarke WANTED!! for crimes against Fashion!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Line Ball on March 17, 2015, 10:07:07 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 17, 2015, 09:56:51 PM
G who dressed Marty Clarke the day, was that what has been going for style in the land down under past few years, oh boy!!
Marty Clarke WANTED!! for crimes against Fashion!!

Absolute madness and not a shamrock in sight unlike in Ravenhill.

What was worse was the language of Galligan when he described his team mates as being 'f**king savage' in his live interview after the game.  Was there not a lad a few years ago in Croke Park who also let a load of 'fcuks' go on the steps of the Hogan?  I know lads get caught up in the moment but it doesn't take much for a lad to say a few words without swearing.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Zulu on March 17, 2015, 10:36:55 PM
There was and it wasn't a few. Lads need to really wise up using language in their interviews or acceptance speeches, reflects really poorly on the GAA.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on March 17, 2015, 11:30:08 PM
That's a great Cavan side.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Bingo on March 18, 2015, 09:27:45 AM
Well done to Our Lady's, Castleblayney who won the MacLarnon yesterday, very strong side and team performance on the day.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: screenexile on March 18, 2015, 09:41:23 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 17, 2015, 11:30:08 PM
That's a great Cavan side.

I agree. The way they took apart Dungannon's blanket defence was a joy to behold and a lesson for any Senior team looking to do something similar. They moved the ball very fast and accurately through footpassing when they turned the ball over and when Dungannon had the blanket set up they were patient in moving the ball from side to side then a long switching kick pass opened them up for the score. It was very composed and a pleasure to watch!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2015, 09:46:49 AM
Young Galligan an excellent footballer. Seen him at close quarters in the Ulster minor final at St Pauls. Big future ahead of him.

Cavan favourites for Ulster minor title this summer?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on March 18, 2015, 10:04:28 AM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 17, 2015, 10:07:07 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 17, 2015, 09:56:51 PM
G who dressed Marty Clarke the day, was that what has been going for style in the land down under past few years, oh boy!!
Marty Clarke WANTED!! for crimes against Fashion!!

Absolute madness and not a shamrock in sight unlike in Ravenhill.

What was worse was the language of Galligan when he described his team mates as being 'f**king savage' in his live interview after the game.  Was there not a lad a few years ago in Croke Park who also let a load of 'fcuks' go on the steps of the Hogan?  I know lads get caught up in the moment but it doesn't take much for a lad to say a few words without swearing.

The Castleblayney captain who won the McLarnon cup also give an interview at half time in the McRory final where he threw in a f**k on live tv whilst standing beside the school principal. The stairs don't seem to go the full way to the attic with some of these lads.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2015, 10:07:16 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 18, 2015, 10:04:28 AM
Quote from: Line Ball on March 17, 2015, 10:07:07 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 17, 2015, 09:56:51 PM
G who dressed Marty Clarke the day, was that what has been going for style in the land down under past few years, oh boy!!
Marty Clarke WANTED!! for crimes against Fashion!!

Absolute madness and not a shamrock in sight unlike in Ravenhill.

What was worse was the language of Galligan when he described his team mates as being 'f**king savage' in his live interview after the game.  Was there not a lad a few years ago in Croke Park who also let a load of 'fcuks' go on the steps of the Hogan?  I know lads get caught up in the moment but it doesn't take much for a lad to say a few words without swearing.

The Castleblayney captain who won the McLarnon cup also give an interview at half time in the McRory final where he threw in a f**k on live tv whilst standing beside the school principal. The stairs don't seem to go the full way to the attic with some of these lads.

The Blayney coach who is the principal didnt look to be a happy camper when interviewed just after his star players 'faux pas'. Maybe the BBC need to have a quiet words with lads just before going 'live'.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: nrico2006 on March 18, 2015, 10:54:41 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2015, 09:46:49 AM
Young Galligan an excellent footballer. Seen him at close quarters in the Ulster minor final at St Pauls. Big future ahead of him.

Cavan favourites for Ulster minor title this summer?

You would imagine Derry should do better this year as well as Tyrone who had two schools in the last 4 of the McRory.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2015, 11:02:00 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 18, 2015, 10:54:41 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 18, 2015, 09:46:49 AM
Young Galligan an excellent footballer. Seen him at close quarters in the Ulster minor final at St Pauls. Big future ahead of him.

Cavan favourites for Ulster minor title this summer?

You would imagine Derry should do better this year as well as Tyrone who had two schools in the last 4 of the McRory.

We've heard this a fair few times recently. Time will tell. Monaghan and Donegal surely to be in the mix.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Blue in hope on March 20, 2015, 09:58:08 AM
Heard the semi final between St Pats v dingle is on in Portlaoise on Saturday 28th March. Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: 5 Sams on March 20, 2015, 04:49:14 PM
Quote from: Blue in hope on March 20, 2015, 09:58:08 AM
Heard the semi final between St Pats v dingle is on in Portlaoise on Saturday 28th March. Can anyone confirm?

According to An Ghaeltacht's twitter account it's Nenagh at 2 on Saturday 28th.

https://twitter.com/AnGhaeltacht
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on March 27, 2015, 01:25:21 PM
Anyone here going to tonights award ceremony?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Sionnach on March 28, 2015, 08:06:04 PM
Pobalscoil Chorca Dhuibhne beat St Pat's  1-14 to  1-11 after extra time in the Hogan Cup semi-final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: blanketattack on March 28, 2015, 10:29:24 PM
Congrats to pcd. Incredible achievement for a small school like pcd with a catchment of just 2 GAA clubs - Dingle and Gaeltacht against a school with a panel comprised from 14 clubs
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on March 28, 2015, 11:41:30 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 28, 2015, 10:29:24 PM
Congrats to pcd. Incredible achievement for a small school like pcd with a catchment of just 2 GAA clubs - Dingle and Gaeltacht against a school with a panel comprised from 14 clubs

They'd have 3 clubs nearby actually. Dingle, An Ghaeltacht agus Lispole. Not sure if any players from Lispole on current team though.
And you're right. 4 Munster colleges in a row and now going for 2nd Hogan cup back to back..it's a fairly ridiculous achievement for a small school.

I assume given they face a Roscommon team in the final we'll have a 100 page thread on here? Beforehand everything will be set against the Ross team, the venue, the ref etc..then afterwards we will hear how Ross were unlucky and were actually the better team.. ;D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: neilthemac on March 28, 2015, 11:49:06 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on March 28, 2015, 11:41:30 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 28, 2015, 10:29:24 PM
Congrats to pcd. Incredible achievement for a small school like pcd with a catchment of just 2 GAA clubs - Dingle and Gaeltacht against a school with a panel comprised from 14 clubs

They'd have 3 clubs nearby actually. Dingle, An Ghaeltacht agus Lispole. Not sure if any players from Lispole on current team though.
And you're right. 4 Munster colleges in a row and now going for 2nd Hogan cup back to back..it's a fairly ridiculous achievement for a small school.

I assume given they face a Roscommon team in the final we'll have a 100 page thread on here? Beforehand everything will be set against the Ross team, the venue, the ref etc..then afterwards we will hear how Ross were unlucky and were actually the better team.. ;D
I'll start the ball rolling so
Only 380 pupils in Roscommon CBS
First Hogan Cup final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: 5 Sams on March 28, 2015, 11:59:52 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on March 28, 2015, 11:41:30 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 28, 2015, 10:29:24 PM
Congrats to pcd. Incredible achievement for a small school like pcd with a catchment of just 2 GAA clubs - Dingle and Gaeltacht against a school with a panel comprised from 14 clubs

They'd have 3 clubs nearby actually. Dingle, An Ghaeltacht agus Lispole. Not sure if any players from Lispole on current team though.
And you're right. 4 Munster colleges in a row and now going for 2nd Hogan cup back to back..it's a fairly ridiculous achievement for a small school.

I assume given they face a Roscommon team in the final we'll have a 100 page thread on here? Beforehand everything will be set against the Ross team, the venue, the ref etc..then afterwards we will hear how Ross were unlucky and were actually the better team.. ;D


Serious achievement by PCD..a lad from Lispole came on in the 2nd half btw lads so there is 3 clubs involved...puts it into perspective. Abbey in Newry or St Colmans or even St Pauls Bessbrook would have the pick of at least 6 clubs and in the Abbey or Colmans case maybe even a dozen clubs...dunno what the Rossies are like but PCD will be hard to beat in the final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Any craic on September 18, 2015, 03:43:47 PM
You can't beat a bit of Bruce Springsteen put to GAA action, especially with a track called 'We look after our own'. Enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mG-ogoNP3s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mG-ogoNP3s)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: redzone on January 12, 2016, 06:17:27 PM
Any one know the fixtures and when they are coming up?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Itchy on November 25, 2017, 03:06:25 PM
St pats beat st Michael in Ranafast cup final today by 2 points.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Itchy on December 16, 2017, 01:18:38 PM
Cor Na Nog final half time.

St Pats Cavan 3-9
St Pats Maghera 0-3
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Itchy on December 16, 2017, 03:04:49 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 16, 2017, 01:18:38 PM
Cor Na Nog final half time.

St Pats Cavan 3-9
St Pats Maghera 0-3

Finished 4-14 to 0-6
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 25, 2018, 03:53:31 PM
The Convent have more goals than points in the MacRory semi-final today against Maghera and are 8 points up halfway through the 2nd half

5-4 to 0-11
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 25, 2018, 04:11:57 PM
Finished 6-7 to 1-13 in Bellaghy.

Big crowd of over 3,200 people - would any of the Irish League soccer matches have gotten close to that yesterday?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 25, 2018, 05:25:17 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on February 25, 2018, 04:11:57 PM
Finished 6-7 to 1-13 in Bellaghy.

Big crowd of over 3,200 people - would any of the Irish League soccer matches have gotten close to that yesterday?

All together they wouldn't have got much more than that- was bbc there ? They were at all grounds yesterday
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 25, 2018, 05:50:58 PM
I'd highly doubt it to be honest with ya.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 25, 2018, 10:58:53 PM
Turns out the Beeb were there - http://www.bbc.com/sport/gaelic-games/43192816
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on February 26, 2018, 08:29:35 AM
Great win for St.Ronan's as well.

Exciting last 10 minutes of that game with St.Pat's missing a scoreable free to equalise in the last kick of the game.

Should be a good final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on February 26, 2018, 08:30:03 AM
Great footage of the game on Armagh TV by the way.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rois on February 26, 2018, 08:42:37 PM
Is the final on Mon 19th rather than on St Patrick's Day itself?

I've a husband who won a McLarnon Cup medal with St Michael's Lurgan in the 90s who has spent a lot of time reminiscing since this result.  Family trip on the cards whatever day it's on. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: T Fearon on February 26, 2018, 08:57:34 PM
Was at the game in Armagh on Friday night.Gutted that my alma mater didn't see it through after they led going into injury time,but the goalkeeper and defender accidentally clashed going for a high free (which incidentally should have been the other way) leaving an open goal for a grateful St Ronan's forward.

Bit poignant too as St Pats with my late brother on board lost at the same semi final stage to Maghera,exactly forty years ago,after they led by six points at half time but couldn't manage a single score in the second half.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 26, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 26, 2018, 08:42:37 PM
Is the final on Mon 19th rather than on St Patrick's Day itself?

I've a husband who won a McLarnon Cup medal with St Michael's Lurgan in the 90s who has spent a lot of time reminiscing since this result.  Family trip on the cards whatever day it's on.

Yes - it's on the 19th
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on February 26, 2018, 10:45:26 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 26, 2018, 08:42:37 PM
Is the final on Mon 19th rather than on St Patrick's Day itself?

I've a husband who won a McLarnon Cup medal with St Michael's Lurgan in the 90s who has spent a lot of time reminiscing since this result.  Family trip on the cards whatever day it's on.

Ha! Do you keep in in the trophy cabinet? Take him for walks? Play hide and seek with him?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rois on February 26, 2018, 10:58:10 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 26, 2018, 10:45:26 PM
Quote from: Rois on February 26, 2018, 08:42:37 PM
Is the final on Mon 19th rather than on St Patrick's Day itself?

I've a husband who won a McLarnon Cup medal with St Michael's Lurgan in the 90s who has spent a lot of time reminiscing since this result.  Family trip on the cards whatever day it's on.

Ha! Do you keep in in the trophy cabinet? Take him for walks? Play hide and seek with him?
Nah, but I've got a few, thought it best to distinguish.  Not all my husbands have schools football medals.  This sets him apart within the group.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on February 27, 2018, 10:04:16 AM
1995 Rois?

I'd have been a fresh faced first year then trying to break into the squad.  I'm sure I know him.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 27, 2018, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on February 25, 2018, 10:58:53 PM
Turns out the Beeb were there - http://www.bbc.com/sport/gaelic-games/43192816

did you see the highlights on newsline yesterday
showed 1 goal, a soccer goal too FFS
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on February 27, 2018, 12:16:02 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on February 27, 2018, 10:04:16 AM
1995 Rois?

I'd have been a fresh faced first year then trying to break into the squad.  I'm sure I know him.

The current St. Ronan's manger Davy Wilson was on that 1995 team.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Iceman on February 27, 2018, 12:20:55 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on February 26, 2018, 08:30:03 AM
Great footage of the game on Armagh TV by the way.
the commentary is hilarious...oh he's a big fella you'd know he was from Madden.....he could throw a stone and be home before it hit the ground....
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: mrdeeds on February 27, 2018, 06:07:19 PM
St Pats Cavan beat Dungannon in Dalton 15 21 to 1 4. Some scoreline.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Targetman on February 27, 2018, 07:16:52 PM
That scoreline is terrible for the losers, is there not a tiered competition at this level?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: thewobbler on February 27, 2018, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: Targetman on February 27, 2018, 07:16:52 PM
That scoreline is terrible for the losers, is there not a tiered competition at this level?
I'd expect it's a long time since Dungannon entered a tier 2 competition. I'm going to guess that Cavan have an unbelievable crop. Or, maybe looking at that scoreline, a 6' 2" 12 year old.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: orangeman on March 01, 2018, 11:56:06 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 27, 2018, 06:07:19 PM
St Pats Cavan beat Dungannon in Dalton 15 21 to 1 4. Some scoreline.


The ref should be bate for texting in that scoreline. Had the ref no compassion as well as the Cavan team ?.  :)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: tommysmith on March 02, 2018, 07:26:56 PM
Quote from: orangeman on March 01, 2018, 11:56:06 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 27, 2018, 06:07:19 PM
St Pats Cavan beat Dungannon in Dalton 15 21 to 1 4. Some scoreline.


The ref should be bate for texting in that scoreline. Had the ref no compassion as well as the Cavan team ?.  :)

He blew it up 15 minutes early allegedly.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Therealdonald on March 02, 2018, 10:14:04 PM
Just coming up to St Paddy's Day brings back memories of watching McCrory Cup finals then the club finals? What are some people's best memories, hard to top Kevin Dyas and Marty Clarke's battle in the 2005 final. Two superb players at that age level.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Targetman on March 03, 2018, 09:44:21 PM
Undoubtedly Abbey beating colmans in the only all Newry McRory Cup final back in 1987, wasn't looking good at half time as Abbey didn't score in the first half trailing 0-0 to 0-5, complete turn around in the second half to win 2-6 to 0-8, played in Lurgan
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: dec on March 04, 2018, 02:59:40 AM
1989
Maghera 4-10 Colmans 4-9
Tohill vs McCartan
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Nanderson on March 04, 2018, 11:07:43 AM
Quote from: Therealdonald on March 02, 2018, 10:14:04 PM
Just coming up to St Paddy's Day brings back memories of watching McCrory Cup finals then the club finals? What are some people's best memories, hard to top Kevin Dyas and Marty Clarke's battle in the 2005 final. Two superb players at that age level.
That was the 2006 final. Remember it well myself for all the wrong reasons, standing on the edge of the Casement Park field waiting to run on for final celebrations then the Abbey scored that last minute goal to win it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 19, 2018, 01:00:59 PM
Draw in the McLarnon Final

St. Eunans 2-6 Holy Trinity College 1-9
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 19, 2018, 02:44:49 PM
St. Ronan's are 2 point winners in the MacRory Cup 1-9 to 1-7 over St. Mary's Magherafelt
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rois on March 19, 2018, 02:46:38 PM
And in his sign-off, Mark Sidebottom just congratulated St Paul's... ::)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: illdecide on March 19, 2018, 03:30:59 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 19, 2018, 02:46:38 PM
And in his sign-off, Mark Sidebottom just congratulated St Paul's... ::)

Lol...heard that too. what a guy...He prob got confused because St Paul's JHS was one of the schools merged into St Ronan's, still no excuse.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: illdecide on March 19, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
Still a we bit of football left in Lurgan yet!!! ;D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Mickey Linden on March 19, 2018, 03:46:47 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 19, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
Still a we bit of football left in Lurgan yet!!! ;D

Or Aghagallon perhaps?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on March 19, 2018, 03:47:25 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 19, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
Still a we bit of football left in Lurgan yet!!! ;D
Aghagallon minors with a handful of Lurgan men sa!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on March 19, 2018, 04:49:49 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 19, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
Still a we bit of football left in Lurgan yet!!! ;D

Can anyone list the clubs for the St Ronan's players
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 19, 2018, 05:11:37 PM
Quote from: Orior on March 19, 2018, 04:49:49 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 19, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
Still a we bit of football left in Lurgan yet!!! ;D

Can anyone list the clubs for the St Ronan's players

Did they say 9 Aghagallon men during the commentary.  Clan na Gael, Clan Eireann and St Peters all got a mention too
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on March 19, 2018, 05:21:13 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 19, 2018, 02:46:38 PM
And in his sign-off, Mark Sidebottom just congratulated St Paul's... ::)

Nothing new there!  Used to refer to Omagh St Enda's being in the final for quite a few years. Doesn't like to be challenged about his mistakes.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on March 19, 2018, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on March 19, 2018, 05:11:37 PM
Quote from: Orior on March 19, 2018, 04:49:49 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 19, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
Still a we bit of football left in Lurgan yet!!! ;D

Can anyone list the clubs for the St Ronan's players

Did they say 9 Aghagallon men during the commentary.  Clan na Gael, Clan Eireann and St Peters all got a mention too

Mostly Antrim men then, long time since so many Antrim men have won a MacRory Cup medal.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: stiffler on March 19, 2018, 05:27:08 PM
Mulholland aghagallon
Haddock clan eireann
Mulholland aghagallon
Mc closkey Eire og
Mccreanor clan na gael
Lamont aghagallon
Haughey Wolfe tones
Lenehan aghagallon
Kelly clan eireann
Meehan clan eireann
Loughran aghagallon
Smyth sarsfields
Mc conville st pauls
Monterio tir na nog
Mc conville clan eireann

Subs used:

Megoran wolfe fones
Mc afee aghagallon
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on March 19, 2018, 05:31:10 PM
So Antrim were probably well represented on both teams
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on March 19, 2018, 05:33:46 PM
Full Panel:
9 Aghagallon
8 Clann Eireann
1 Portadown
1 St Pauls
1 Eire Og
5 Clan Na Gael
2 Wolfe Tones
2 Sarsfields
4 St Peters
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on March 19, 2018, 05:37:35 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 19, 2018, 05:27:08 PM
Mulholland aghagallon
Haddock clan eireann
Mulholland aghagallon
Mc closkey Eire og
Mccreanor clan na gael
Lamont aghagallon
Haughey Wolfe tones
Lenehan aghagallon
Kelly clan eireann
Meehan clan eireann
Loughran aghagallon
Smyth sarsfields
Mc conville st pauls
Monterio tir na nog
Mc conville clan eireann

Subs used:

Megoran wolfe fones
Mc afee aghagallon

So, the days of leaving Lurgan to go to Newry to the Abbey or Colman's to win a MacRory Cup medal are well and truly over. Imagine how competitive St Ronan's would be if all the best players in its catchment area stayed in Lurgan for their post 16 education.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Targetman on March 19, 2018, 07:07:15 PM
From my days at the Abbey I never remembered anyone from Lurgan even going to the school never mind playing Mac Rory cup, Lurgan ones all went to the Armagh Rd!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONARAGGATIP on March 19, 2018, 07:10:23 PM
Quote from: Targetman on March 19, 2018, 07:07:15 PM
From my days at the Abbey I never remembered anyone from Lurgan even going to the school never mind playing Mac Rory cup, Lurgan ones all went to the Armagh Rd!!

it was bad enough having to listen to the ones from south Armagh.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Targetman on March 19, 2018, 07:21:37 PM
Ach they were monya craic!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: jmk on March 19, 2018, 08:12:16 PM
 being from Lurgan , I've never heard of anyone from the town who ever went to the Abbey
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: armaghniac on March 19, 2018, 08:48:00 PM
Quote from: jmk on March 19, 2018, 08:12:16 PM
being from Lurgan , I've never heard of anyone from the town who ever went to the Abbey

The Abbey had many positive features.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on March 19, 2018, 09:44:07 PM
Quote from: Targetman on March 19, 2018, 07:07:15 PM
From my days at the Abbey I never remembered anyone from Lurgan even going to the school never mind playing Mac Rory cup, Lurgan ones all went to the Armagh Rd!!

Ok, there are a few going to the Abbey given that there is a bus running every day.  With the epicentre of colleges football shifting to Lurgan, looks like no one wanting to play at the top level going to Armagh either.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on March 20, 2018, 08:16:51 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on March 19, 2018, 05:37:35 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 19, 2018, 05:27:08 PM
Mulholland aghagallon
Haddock clan eireann
Mulholland aghagallon
Mc closkey Eire og
Mccreanor clan na gael
Lamont aghagallon
Haughey Wolfe tones
Lenehan aghagallon
Kelly clan eireann
Meehan clan eireann
Loughran aghagallon
Smyth sarsfields
Mc conville st pauls
Monterio tir na nog
Mc conville clan eireann

Subs used:

Megoran wolfe fones
Mc afee aghagallon

So, the days of leaving Lurgan to go to Newry to the Abbey or Colman's to win a MacRory Cup medal are well and truly over. Imagine how competitive St Ronan's would be if all the best players in its catchment area stayed in Lurgan for their post 16 education.

The first years who have applied to St.Ronan's next year is already well above what they're allowed to take.

It'll be the biggest school in the north, numbers wise, when the new build is finished in a couple of years.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: nrico2006 on March 20, 2018, 09:32:49 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 20, 2018, 08:16:51 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on March 19, 2018, 05:37:35 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 19, 2018, 05:27:08 PM
Mulholland aghagallon
Haddock clan eireann
Mulholland aghagallon
Mc closkey Eire og
Mccreanor clan na gael
Lamont aghagallon
Haughey Wolfe tones
Lenehan aghagallon
Kelly clan eireann
Meehan clan eireann
Loughran aghagallon
Smyth sarsfields
Mc conville st pauls
Monterio tir na nog
Mc conville clan eireann

Subs used:

Megoran wolfe fones
Mc afee aghagallon

So, the days of leaving Lurgan to go to Newry to the Abbey or Colman's to win a MacRory Cup medal are well and truly over. Imagine how competitive St Ronan's would be if all the best players in its catchment area stayed in Lurgan for their post 16 education.

The first years who have applied to St.Ronan's next year is already well above what they're allowed to take.

It'll be the biggest school in the north, numbers wise, when the new build is finished in a couple of years.

I take it a lot of the Clann Eireann minor squad go to other schools then?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on March 20, 2018, 10:10:34 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 20, 2018, 09:32:49 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 20, 2018, 08:16:51 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on March 19, 2018, 05:37:35 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 19, 2018, 05:27:08 PM
Mulholland aghagallon
Haddock clan eireann
Mulholland aghagallon
Mc closkey Eire og
Mccreanor clan na gael
Lamont aghagallon
Haughey Wolfe tones
Lenehan aghagallon
Kelly clan eireann
Meehan clan eireann
Loughran aghagallon
Smyth sarsfields
Mc conville st pauls
Monterio tir na nog
Mc conville clan eireann

Subs used:

Megoran wolfe fones
Mc afee aghagallon

So, the days of leaving Lurgan to go to Newry to the Abbey or Colman's to win a MacRory Cup medal are well and truly over. Imagine how competitive St Ronan's would be if all the best players in its catchment area stayed in Lurgan for their post 16 education.

The first years who have applied to St.Ronan's next year is already well above what they're allowed to take.

It'll be the biggest school in the north, numbers wise, when the new build is finished in a couple of years.

I take it a lot of the Clann Eireann minor squad go to other schools then?

Not sure, but they've 8 lads on the panel, which is a large enough number surely?

Some of them could be lower 6th or younger so may not have made the squad this year.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: nrico2006 on March 20, 2018, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 20, 2018, 10:10:34 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 20, 2018, 09:32:49 AM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 20, 2018, 08:16:51 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on March 19, 2018, 05:37:35 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 19, 2018, 05:27:08 PM
Mulholland aghagallon
Haddock clan eireann
Mulholland aghagallon
Mc closkey Eire og
Mccreanor clan na gael
Lamont aghagallon
Haughey Wolfe tones
Lenehan aghagallon
Kelly clan eireann
Meehan clan eireann
Loughran aghagallon
Smyth sarsfields
Mc conville st pauls
Monterio tir na nog
Mc conville clan eireann

Subs used:

Megoran wolfe fones
Mc afee aghagallon

So, the days of leaving Lurgan to go to Newry to the Abbey or Colman's to win a MacRory Cup medal are well and truly over. Imagine how competitive St Ronan's would be if all the best players in its catchment area stayed in Lurgan for their post 16 education.

The first years who have applied to St.Ronan's next year is already well above what they're allowed to take.

It'll be the biggest school in the north, numbers wise, when the new build is finished in a couple of years.

I take it a lot of the Clann Eireann minor squad go to other schools then?

Not sure, but they've 8 lads on the panel, which is a large enough number surely?

Some of them could be lower 6th or younger so may not have made the squad this year.

Was thinking they would have more given their success over the past few years.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on March 20, 2018, 11:17:01 AM
Think a lot of their minor team left St.Ronan's last year.

See the lads running around in the morph suits yesterday? Mostly Clann Eireann... :-)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: illdecide on March 20, 2018, 11:49:53 AM
St Ronan's will be in or around 2000 pupils, bear in mind 50% of that figure are female (or there about), you wanna see the sporting set up for their new school...very impressive in deed. Aghagallon are really strong at minor level and i'm glad to see it, hopefully they can mature into good senior players and compete at senior level in Antrim...In all seriousness Aghagallon has a great catchment area and is getting bigger by the year, soon it'll be a small town, it's expanding like Jim Stynes waistline ;). An antrim senior Championship in the next 5 years? (bold statement).

Funny you men mention the Abbey, any Lurgan man with half a brain ended up at St Coleman's but never the Abbey. suppose they had the football in mind when selecting their school :P.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lurganblue on March 20, 2018, 12:08:16 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 20, 2018, 11:49:53 AM
St Ronan's will be in or around 2000 pupils, bear in mind 50% of that figure are female (or there about), you wanna see the sporting set up for their new school...very impressive in deed. Aghagallon are really strong at minor level and i'm glad to see it, hopefully they can mature into good senior players and compete at senior level in Antrim...In all seriousness Aghagallon has a great catchment area and is getting bigger by the year, soon it'll be a small town, it's expanding like Jim Stynes waistline ;). An antrim senior Championship in the next 5 years? (bold statement).

Funny you men mention the Abbey, any Lurgan man with half a brain ended up at St Coleman's but never the Abbey. suppose they had the football in mind when selecting their school :P.

I only know of people who left the town to go to either St Colmans or St Pats.  With St Ronan's now declaring themselves as a grammar it means that kids joining either St Colmans or St Pats wont get free travel like they used too. That will be the main impact on the ability of parents to send their kids to other schools.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on March 20, 2018, 01:11:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 20, 2018, 11:49:53 AM
St Ronan's will be in or around 2000 pupils, bear in mind 50% of that figure are female (or there about), you wanna see the sporting set up for their new school...very impressive in deed. Aghagallon are really strong at minor level and i'm glad to see it, hopefully they can mature into good senior players and compete at senior level in Antrim...In all seriousness Aghagallon has a great catchment area and is getting bigger by the year, soon it'll be a small town, it's expanding like Jim Stynes waistline ;). An antrim senior Championship in the next 5 years? (bold statement).

Funny you men mention the Abbey, any Lurgan man with half a brain ended up at St Coleman's but never the Abbey. suppose they had the football in mind when selecting their school :P.

Jesus it's not growing that quick illdecide! There's still only a total of about 200 children in the two parish schools. My waistline is though haha

Aghagallon has always had a great representation in St. Michael's teams and now St. Ronan's too. There are actually a few from Aghagallon that go to the Abbey, a few in St. Coleman's and 1 or maybe 2 in St. Pat's Armagh. We've a few who go to Lismore and are very good footballers, Lismore isn't a good sporting school to get the best out of them though. 

I heard it was going to be around 1200 in the new school, not 2000? That will be fun trying to past Cornakinegar and Kilwilkie in the morning.

Yesterday was brilliant and it really has given the town and surrounding areas a real buzz. Lurgan is a Gaelic football mad town and it's about time they were competing for and winning McCrorys.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: general_lee on March 20, 2018, 01:32:24 PM
Great achievement by St Ronans. I'm not sure though how long they can continue at this level in the immediate future (maybe someone in the know can correct me) but this current squad is backboned by last year's Armagh minor winners and last years antrim minor finalists. All players from a 6 mile radius between 9 clubs.

As for pupils going to Newry... Can't see too many wanting to go St Colmans for a variety of reasons of late. With St Paul's Bessbrook also playing McRory, Castlewellan, and St Ronans etc the days of St Colmans attracting players from south and north Armagh, east Down could well be over.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on March 20, 2018, 08:39:00 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 20, 2018, 12:08:16 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 20, 2018, 11:49:53 AM
St Ronan's will be in or around 2000 pupils, bear in mind 50% of that figure are female (or there about), you wanna see the sporting set up for their new school...very impressive in deed. Aghagallon are really strong at minor level and i'm glad to see it, hopefully they can mature into good senior players and compete at senior level in Antrim...In all seriousness Aghagallon has a great catchment area and is getting bigger by the year, soon it'll be a small town, it's expanding like Jim Stynes waistline ;). An antrim senior Championship in the next 5 years? (bold statement).

Funny you men mention the Abbey, any Lurgan man with half a brain ended up at St Coleman's but never the Abbey. suppose they had the football in mind when selecting their school :P.

I only know of people who left the town to go to either St Colmans or St Pats.  With St Ronan's now declaring themselves as a grammar it means that kids joining either St Colmans or St Pats wont get free travel like they used too. That will be the main impact on the ability of parents to send their kids to other schools.

Free travel is now gone for a third year. Is a place in Colman's over St Ronan's worth £50 a month for the bus?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on March 20, 2018, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: general_lee on March 20, 2018, 01:32:24 PM
Great achievement by St Ronans. I'm not sure though how long they can continue at this level in the immediate future (maybe someone in the know can correct me) but this current squad is backboned by last year's Armagh minor winners and last years antrim minor finalists. All players from a 6 mile radius between 9 clubs.

As for pupils going to Newry... Can't see too many wanting to go St Colmans for a variety of reasons of late. With St Paul's Bessbrook also playing McRory, Castlewellan, and St Ronans etc the days of St Colmans attracting players from south and north Armagh, east Down could well be over.

Maybe its time to close the Abbey and have them merge into St Colmans :-)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: illdecide on March 20, 2018, 09:31:50 PM
Maybe the tables will turn and the Newry & South Armagh lads will bus it to Lurgan to St Ronan's for their football and education... :P
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: armaghniac on March 20, 2018, 09:36:53 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 20, 2018, 11:49:53 AM
Funny you men mention the Abbey, any Lurgan man with half a brain ended up at St Coleman's but never the Abbey. suppose they had the football in mind when selecting their school :P.

Well it obviously wasn't education.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lurganblue on March 21, 2018, 09:53:00 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on March 20, 2018, 08:39:00 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 20, 2018, 12:08:16 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 20, 2018, 11:49:53 AM
St Ronan's will be in or around 2000 pupils, bear in mind 50% of that figure are female (or there about), you wanna see the sporting set up for their new school...very impressive in deed. Aghagallon are really strong at minor level and i'm glad to see it, hopefully they can mature into good senior players and compete at senior level in Antrim...In all seriousness Aghagallon has a great catchment area and is getting bigger by the year, soon it'll be a small town, it's expanding like Jim Stynes waistline ;). An antrim senior Championship in the next 5 years? (bold statement).

Funny you men mention the Abbey, any Lurgan man with half a brain ended up at St Coleman's but never the Abbey. suppose they had the football in mind when selecting their school :P.

I only know of people who left the town to go to either St Colmans or St Pats.  With St Ronan's now declaring themselves as a grammar it means that kids joining either St Colmans or St Pats wont get free travel like they used too. That will be the main impact on the ability of parents to send their kids to other schools.

Free travel is now gone for a third year. Is a place in Colman's over St Ronan's worth £50 a month for the bus?

Education wise it probably is aye; if it can be afforded.

Will the St Pats merge with St Brigids bring a similar footballing success?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on March 21, 2018, 10:52:49 AM
Possibly as it will give students more of a chance of going to University and entice them to stay on for  A-Levels, previously the majority of students from St Brigids would have went into trades/ quit education at 16, very few would have went to St Pats.  The amount of quality players form the Armagh area who miss out on McRory football because their education isn't t up to scratch is shocking. 

Not saying they will be automatically be contesting McRory cups year in year out, but you would expect the standard to be raised now the the catch net of available players available has been widened.   
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 12:10:41 PM
Does anybody care that it was absolute dross and hard to watch? Mirroring the way the senior game is going lately.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:24:45 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 12:10:41 PM
Does anybody care that it was absolute dross and hard to watch? Mirroring the way the senior game is going lately.

Didn't find it hard to watch personally. 

As an ex-defender myself, I was very impressed with the tackling/turnovers/defensive work by both teams.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 01:31:59 PM
Personally I think McRory is over hyped and often turgid football.

Promoted by teachers who often have plenty of authority in the GAA.

Take the Maghera management for example. You wouldn't put them in charge of the club U10s.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on March 21, 2018, 01:39:41 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 01:31:59 PM
Personally I think McRory is over hyped and often turgid football.

Promoted by teachers who often have plenty of authority in the GAA.

Take the Maghera management for example. You wouldn't put them in charge of the club U10s.

Always been the case. Some very poor coaches involved. Certainly over hyped.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 02:04:14 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 21, 2018, 01:39:41 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 01:31:59 PM
Personally I think McRory is over hyped and often turgid football.

Promoted by teachers who often have plenty of authority in the GAA.

Take the Maghera management for example. You wouldn't put them in charge of the club U10s.

Always been the case. Some very poor coaches involved. Certainly over hyped.

Live off the back of the huge catchment and strong clubs in the area. Perhaps this will change if the Convent start to become more successful with their full time Director of GAA in charge!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 21, 2018, 02:08:21 PM
I thought it was as poor a final that I have seen in a while. The standard of decision making and shooting was really poor. Can't see St Ronans winning the Hogan.

Walter have you seen the stuff coming through St Pats from Dalton up. They aren't going away anytime soon.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: oakleaflad on March 21, 2018, 02:14:20 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 21, 2018, 02:08:21 PM
I thought it was as poor a final that I have seen in a while. The standard of decision making and shooting was really poor. Can't see St Ronans winning the Hogan.

Walter have you seen the stuff coming through St Pats from Dalton up. They aren't going away anytime soon.
Their coaching would need to improve. They had a very strong team on paper this year but St.Mary's blitzed them in the Semi final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 21, 2018, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on March 21, 2018, 02:14:20 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 21, 2018, 02:08:21 PM
I thought it was as poor a final that I have seen in a while. The standard of decision making and shooting was really poor. Can't see St Ronans winning the Hogan.

Walter have you seen the stuff coming through St Pats from Dalton up. They aren't going away anytime soon.
Their coaching would need to improve. They had a very strong team on paper this year but St.Mary's blitzed them in the Semi final.

I thought it was more to do with the structure of the team than the coaching. Would say Lockhart and Mc Connell will under pressure to take it again.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 03:10:58 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 21, 2018, 02:08:21 PM
I thought it was as poor a final that I have seen in a while. The standard of decision making and shooting was really poor. Can't see St Ronans winning the Hogan.

Walter have you seen the stuff coming through St Pats from Dalton up. They aren't going away anytime soon.

I knew you'd weigh in defending Maghera coaches Rawhide ;)

Surely structure (set up) and coaching go hand in hand!!!!

Magheras record from Dalton to Rannafast in unmatched this last 10 years. When tactics are brought into it at McRory they are found wanting. It cost them at least 1 Hogan also.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 21, 2018, 03:42:31 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.

+1
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 21, 2018, 03:43:40 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 03:10:58 PM
Quote from: Rawhide on March 21, 2018, 02:08:21 PM
I thought it was as poor a final that I have seen in a while. The standard of decision making and shooting was really poor. Can't see St Ronans winning the Hogan.

Walter have you seen the stuff coming through St Pats from Dalton up. They aren't going away anytime soon.

I knew you'd weigh in defending Maghera coaches Rawhide ;)

Surely structure (set up) and coaching go hand in hand!!!!

Magheras record from Dalton to Rannafast in unmatched this last 10 years. When tactics are brought into it at McRory they are found wanting. It cost them at least 1 Hogan also.

If they would leave Lockhart & Mc Connell with it all the time.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on March 21, 2018, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.

Don't think it is to be fair. Some very average coaches, who have a very average knowledge of the game involved in teams.
But whatever, congratulations to St Ronan's.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 03:53:46 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 21, 2018, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.

Don't think it is to be fair. Some very average coaches, who have a very average knowledge of the game involved in teams.
But whatever, congratulations to St Ronan's.

Its an inconvinient truth for too many who think it is the be all and end all. Dont worry the same is happening in Rugby, massive percentage never even go on to play for their clubs.

Preparing lads for the biggest game of their lives at 17/18.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 04:05:12 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 03:53:46 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 21, 2018, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.

Don't think it is to be fair. Some very average coaches, who have a very average knowledge of the game involved in teams.
But whatever, congratulations to St Ronan's.

Its an inconvinient truth for too many who think it is the be all and end all. Dont worry the same is happening in Rugby, massive percentage never even go on to play for their clubs.

Preparing lads for the biggest game of their lives at 17/18.


You are advocating doing away with all underage competition...more mad nonsense.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 04:38:45 PM
How dare anyone form an opinion different to that of the Keyser. :*

MacRory should be run off pre Christmas instead of eating into lads study time.

But nah frig their education, lets stick with tradition/over training and forcing lads to choose between schools and club/county!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 05:21:55 PM
You called me on it? I changed tact??

Think you are confusing me with NAG1? ::) ::) ::)

County should take priority over schools and lads shouldn't be forced to choose between school and club in winter, should their club be successful.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 05:26:06 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 05:21:55 PM
You called me on it? I changed tact??

Think you are confusing me with NAG1? ::) ::) ::)

County should take priority over schools and lads shouldn't be forced to choose between school and club in winter, should their club be successful.

Message deleted - woops.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on March 21, 2018, 05:40:50 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 21, 2018, 04:38:45 PM
How dare anyone form an opinion different to that of the Keyser. :*

MacRory should be run off pre Christmas instead of eating into lads study time.

But nah frig their education, lets stick with tradition/over training and forcing lads to choose between schools and club/county!

Surely having it over by St Patrick's day is sufficient?

By the way, I don't agree with schools shopping for the best coach and paying over the odds (by whatever means) just to get their man. But if that is what the board of governors want then I suppose fair enough, they're making the decisions. But if they don't know, then they should be ashamed.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on March 21, 2018, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

What a load of shite. The McCrory and other college competitions are fantastic competitions and gives young lads the chance to play against other top level players. I know the difference the college football makes to our own club players. Their skill level, fitness levels, mental strength etc increases massively by playing McCrory football. The buzz around Lurgan at the minute is fantastic and will no doubt spur on other young lads to play Gaelic football. Playing along with your school mates from different clubs is brilliant and these young lads will have very fond memories of it for the rest of their lives.

Yes the half in the final was poor but the second half was a decent game. There has been great exhibitions of football in the other games this year as well. Don't judge it all on one game ffs.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Kickham csc on March 21, 2018, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 03:53:46 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 21, 2018, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.

Don't think it is to be fair. Some very average coaches, who have a very average knowledge of the game involved in teams.
But whatever, congratulations to St Ronan's.

Its an inconvinient truth for too many who think it is the be all and end all. Dont worry the same is happening in Rugby, massive percentage never even go on to play for their clubs.

Preparing lads for the biggest game of their lives at 17/18.

Speaking from experience, going though the Magera system, you couldn't be further from the truth.

In St Pats, 1st to 3rd year PE revolved around 50% GAA and the rest was a mix of athletics, basketball, rugby, soccer and gym.

OF the GAA PE session, each class, no matter of the ability of the pupil, was coached on the technical aspects of football, catching kicking tackling etc.

For the school teams, we naturally went out to win all our games, but the management didn't have a win at all costs mentality, if we won great, if we lost they talked to us abut what went wrong, and they would actually work on the weakness the next year.

At MacRory, the intensity increased, and the focus on winning increased, but the approach was always about fundamentals, that if you can do the fundamentals faster, higher, etc than the opposition, then you had a better chance to win.

On strategy, we focused on defence getting to the ball first, while in possession focused on getting the ball into the forwards as fast as possible. We had a St Pats way of driving forward was ingrained to us.

The net result of the 7 year process was that on my final year squad of 24, 5 went on to play inter-county football, the  rest all played senior football for their club teams, and there was a feeling that St Pats supplemented the local clubs coaching and help elevate Derry club football.

It was a really positive experience
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: thewobbler on March 21, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
Anyone who holds a grudge against MacRory football, I would propose, is most likely falling over beneath the weight of the chips on their shoulders. A professional axe grinder looking here, there, anywhere for a target.

It's a truly wonderful competition. It means the absolute world to those involved in it. It provides a viable athletic aspiration for thousands of younger pupils; and for more than a few it is sole reason why they will work for and pass GCSEs. It creates warmth and nostalgia, and by sheer force of nature brings alumni closer to their old school, and old school friends.

If you begrudge the MacRory Cup, I would genuinely hate to spend a day inside your head. It must be horrible in there.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on March 21, 2018, 09:03:22 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 03:53:46 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 21, 2018, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on March 21, 2018, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 21, 2018, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 21, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Ah lads, come on.

Colleges football was the most enjoyable and competitive football I ever played.

Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

Thats the difference, great for the 40 lads involved, dross to watch. I think far too much emphasis placed on it anyway and instead of developing players with the skills of the game they are more interested developing winning teams, so the can add a McRory to their coaching Cv for the managerial gravy train around Ulster.

There's a fair amount of bollocks talked on this forum but that takes the biscuit. Pure and utter nonsense.

Don't think it is to be fair. Some very average coaches, who have a very average knowledge of the game involved in teams.
But whatever, congratulations to St Ronan's.

Its an inconvinient truth for too many who think it is the be all and end all. Dont worry the same is happening in Rugby, massive percentage never even go on to play for their clubs.

Preparing lads for the biggest game of their lives at 17/18.
Fking balls
Schools football was brilliant, made friends for life and still have a great affiliation with my alma mater,
Still have the craic with guys from other schools I met during my time, from st marys cbs,maghera, college etc
Indeed few years ago took son to abbey St. Paul's Match and was chatting to guys from home who all had gone to St. Paul's and were a lot younger than me
One of them says hopefully get stuck into these abbey bastards, I chuckled and said yip was thinking the same only I want the abbey to get stuck into the St. Paul's bastards.
He hadn't realised I was an abbey boy.
For me schools football most enjoyable experience I had on the pitch.
Although that was easy cos cross killeavy etc used to hammer us regularly at under age so it was no fun
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: BennyHarp on March 21, 2018, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on March 21, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
Anyone who holds a grudge against MacRory football, I would propose, is most likely falling over beneath the weight of the chips on their shoulders. A professional axe grinder looking here, there, anywhere for a target.

It's a truly wonderful competition. It means the absolute world to those involved in it. It provides a viable athletic aspiration for thousands of younger pupils; and for more than a few it is sole reason why they will work for and pass GCSEs. It creates warmth and nostalgia, and by sheer force of nature brings alumni closer to their old school, and old school friends.

If you begrudge the MacRory Cup, I would genuinely hate to spend a day inside your head. It must be horrible in there.

+1 I loved every minute of my time playing MacRory (even though we took a hefty beating from Maghera in my final year) and still love watching football at that level today. My school winning the competition for the first time ever when I was in first year is one of my favourite sporting memories and made me determined to play in the competition. Like Naka said, it was great for making friends for life not only from your own team but from other schools too. Friendships that continued into Uni and beyond. I'd say in the past few pages we can easily enough spot the lads who didn't make their MacRory panels.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: general_lee on March 21, 2018, 09:35:19 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on March 21, 2018, 10:52:49 AM
Possibly as it will give students more of a chance of going to University and entice them to stay on for  A-Levels, previously the majority of students from St Brigids would have went into trades/ quit education at 16, very few would have went to St Pats.  The amount of quality players form the Armagh area who miss out on McRory football because their education isn't t up to scratch is shocking. 

Not saying they will be automatically be contesting McRory cups year in year out, but you would expect the standard to be raised now the the catch net of available players available has been widened.   
Lurgan suffered this for years, St Paul's JHS produced some brilliant teams over the years but only going up to 5th year meant you'd a a load that went on to tech, trades etc with the rest going on to do A Levels at St Michael's. Likewise it remains to be seen if St Ronans will consistently be competing in the McRory, but you'd like to think the potential has certainly increased.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2018, 09:39:41 PM
The macrory is a fantastic competition. The only thing that pains me about it is that no antrim schools are in it!

Great grounding for football in later years.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: general_lee on March 21, 2018, 09:41:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2018, 09:39:41 PM
The macrory is a fantastic competition. The only thing that pains me about it is that no antrim schools are in it!

Great grounding for football in later years.
Was st Mary's CBGS not in it?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2018, 09:43:14 PM
They have been in it every now and then but not in a while.

They haven't been winning, or challenging , for mclarnon from what i have seen so it would be a step too far.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on March 21, 2018, 09:46:24 PM
I stand corrected...

I didn't realise they were in it!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on March 21, 2018, 09:53:33 PM
Quote from: general_lee on March 21, 2018, 09:41:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2018, 09:39:41 PM
The macrory is a fantastic competition. The only thing that pains me about it is that no antrim schools are in it!

Great grounding for football in later years.
Was st Mary's CBGS not in it?
Winners in 1986 I believe
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Targetman on March 21, 2018, 10:01:27 PM
Mac Rory football really is the pinnacle of these lads school days often to the detriment of their studies, its becoming increasingly difficult to win with more genuine contenders this past few years, I've seen a few games in this years competition and thoroughly impressed with the standard on offer
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 21, 2018, 11:29:41 PM
MacRory football is fantastic, over 25 years since I left St Pats Armagh and I was fooking gutted when St Ronan's chinned us with a stoppage time goal in the semi. It was always serious stuff, I remember Br Ennis having us in training for the Rannafast  Cup in mid August before school was  back from Summer holidays.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on March 22, 2018, 08:33:18 AM
My wee lad, first year in St.Ronan's, is running about hoarse after Monday, on cloud 9, can't wait to get to his club training, is rhyming off all the names of the MacRory team, and is already talking about playing MacRory himself in 6 or 7 years.

Think there's a bit of magic left in the competition yet.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 22, 2018, 08:49:28 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 21, 2018, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on March 21, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
Anyone who holds a grudge against MacRory football, I would propose, is most likely falling over beneath the weight of the chips on their shoulders. A professional axe grinder looking here, there, anywhere for a target.

It's a truly wonderful competition. It means the absolute world to those involved in it. It provides a viable athletic aspiration for thousands of younger pupils; and for more than a few it is sole reason why they will work for and pass GCSEs. It creates warmth and nostalgia, and by sheer force of nature brings alumni closer to their old school, and old school friends.

If you begrudge the MacRory Cup, I would genuinely hate to spend a day inside your head. It must be horrible in there.

+1 I loved every minute of my time playing MacRory (even though we took a hefty beating from Maghera in my final year) and still love watching football at that level today. My school winning the competition for the first time ever when I was in first year is one of my favourite sporting memories and made me determined to play in the competition. Like Naka said, it was great for making friends for life not only from your own team but from other schools too. Friendships that continued into Uni and beyond. I'd say in the past few pages we can easily enough spot the lads who didn't make their MacRory panels.

Sure jeez Benny they still talk about how you made the MacRory panel years later!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Minder on March 22, 2018, 08:54:48 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 21, 2018, 09:43:14 PM
They have been in it every now and then but not in a while.

They haven't been winning, or challenging , for mclarnon from what i have seen so it would be a step too far.

I thought they were in it a few years ago
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: BennyHarp on March 22, 2018, 11:49:53 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 22, 2018, 08:49:28 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 21, 2018, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on March 21, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
Anyone who holds a grudge against MacRory football, I would propose, is most likely falling over beneath the weight of the chips on their shoulders. A professional axe grinder looking here, there, anywhere for a target.

It's a truly wonderful competition. It means the absolute world to those involved in it. It provides a viable athletic aspiration for thousands of younger pupils; and for more than a few it is sole reason why they will work for and pass GCSEs. It creates warmth and nostalgia, and by sheer force of nature brings alumni closer to their old school, and old school friends.

If you begrudge the MacRory Cup, I would genuinely hate to spend a day inside your head. It must be horrible in there.

+1 I loved every minute of my time playing MacRory (even though we took a hefty beating from Maghera in my final year) and still love watching football at that level today. My school winning the competition for the first time ever when I was in first year is one of my favourite sporting memories and made me determined to play in the competition. Like Naka said, it was great for making friends for life not only from your own team but from other schools too. Friendships that continued into Uni and beyond. I'd say in the past few pages we can easily enough spot the lads who didn't make their MacRory panels.

Sure jeez Benny they still talk about how you made the MacRory panel years later!!

No doubt. I believe there's a plaque and everything in the new build. You're right though, its all down to bad management and bad coaching Walt - sure, you roasted lads who made the MacRory panel in a club game a few weeks later?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ardchieftain on March 22, 2018, 12:34:37 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 21, 2018, 11:29:41 PM
MacRory football is fantastic, over 25 years since I left St Pats Armagh and I was fooking gutted when St Ronan's chinned us with a stoppage time goal in the semi. It was always serious stuff, I remember Br Ennis having us in training for the Rannafast  Cup in mid August before school was  back from Summer holidays.

I should know you Benny, seems you were at school the same time as me.

I played club and schools football from primary school onwards and thought i was fit enough. Mcrory training came as a shock, the fitness work was brutal but when i stuck at it i soon realised what fit was. My point is that colleges football can be the making of some lads.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on March 22, 2018, 07:26:59 PM
Yeah I didn't realise that. My mistake. More would be nice but seems half the south west goes to school in derry or armagh ;D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 22, 2018, 07:44:04 PM
Have to say I loved schools football and can honestly say my only football regret is never winning a MacRory. We had the best team for 3-4 years when I was there and should have won at least one and a Hogan as well but we were outwitted by McGuckin!!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on March 22, 2018, 10:07:33 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 22, 2018, 07:44:04 PM
Have to say I loved schools football and can honestly say my only football regret is never winning a MacRory. We had the best team for 3-4 years when I was there and should have won at least one and a Hogan as well but we were outwitted by McGuckin!!!

It must have been tough in St Colmans shadow.

(Not that I ever made the team, but then they didn't want players who were God's gift to women)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 22, 2018, 10:11:38 PM
Quote from: Orior on March 22, 2018, 10:07:33 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 22, 2018, 07:44:04 PM
Have to say I loved schools football and can honestly say my only football regret is never winning a MacRory. We had the best team for 3-4 years when I was there and should have won at least one and a Hogan as well but we were outwitted by McGuckin!!!

It must have been tough in St Colmans shadow.

(Not that I ever made the team, but then they didn't want players who were God's gift to women)

You were fucked in both cases then!!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 22, 2018, 10:21:18 PM
It's telling that those who speak most strongly in favour of the MacRory Cup are in their mid to late forties. They were playing football in a world where the Berlin Wall existed and the Internet didn't. I'm perfectly happy for anyone to examine my head, but the levels of preparation that the MacRory Cup have been taken to are massively beyond what should be educationally acceptable. Paddy Wallace alluded to the same thing in schools' rugby.

I'd ban her.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 22, 2018, 11:23:31 PM
Is Brother Ennis still alive does anyone know? Always had plenty of time for him, lovely man.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: laceer on March 22, 2018, 11:32:18 PM
Best football playing time of my life. As close to being a professional footballer as many of us will get. The bond between 30 or so lads spending all day Monday to Friday together, training together, socialising etc was something else.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on March 23, 2018, 01:30:05 AM
Quote from: laceer on March 22, 2018, 11:32:18 PM
Best football playing time of my life. As close to being a professional footballer as many of us will get. The bond between 30 or so lads spending all day Monday to Friday together, training together, socialising etc was something else.

Exactly!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on March 23, 2018, 08:26:53 AM
Quote from: laceer on March 22, 2018, 11:32:18 PM
Best football playing time of my life. As close to being a professional footballer as many of us will get. The bond between 30 or so lads spending all day Monday to Friday together, training together, socialising etc was something else.

+1.  And when I see any of the former teammates it's still the same slagging, the same craic and the same chat about football.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lurganblue on March 23, 2018, 09:30:28 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 22, 2018, 11:23:31 PM
Is Brother Ennis still alive does anyone know? Always had plenty of time for him, lovely man.

Was wondering this exact thing when Jimmy Smyth was presenting the cup on Monday there. A real character.

Playing MacRory and being a part of that squad was a fantastic time. In St Pats, that was the pinnacle, no other sports mattered (or didnt seem to anyway). It's also great to be able to look back at that time and consider how far in the game some for your team mates progressed. It's a nonsense to say that this competition didnt develop them as players. (I dont know what went wrong with me  :P )
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: FermGael on March 23, 2018, 10:12:17 AM
From a Fermanagh perspective, the McRory cup teams have been the lifeblood of our county teams I would say for the past 30 or 40 years.
Very few of the current Fermanagh panel would not have played for St Michael's.  It has also developed quite a few Trillick men as well.
Due to the set up that Peter McGinnity started and Dominic Corrigan currently has, Fermanagh have been producing players.  Without that standard of football, we would never be able to compete as a county where we have been.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on March 23, 2018, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 22, 2018, 11:23:31 PM
Is Brother Ennis still alive does anyone know? Always had plenty of time for him, lovely man.

Living in the CB community in Galway.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 23, 2018, 05:43:22 PM
Good stuff, he must be near 90 now?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: tonto1888 on March 23, 2018, 06:08:36 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 23, 2018, 09:30:28 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 22, 2018, 11:23:31 PM
Is Brother Ennis still alive does anyone know? Always had plenty of time for him, lovely man.

Was wondering this exact thing when Jimmy Smyth was presenting the cup on Monday there. A real character.

Playing MacRory and being a part of that squad was a fantastic time. In St Pats, that was the pinnacle, no other sports mattered (or didnt seem to anyway). It's also great to be able to look back at that time and consider how far in the game some for your team mates progressed. It's a nonsense to say that this competition didnt develop them as players. (I dont know what went wrong with me  :P )

I haven't heard that he has passed away. Not saying I definitely would have heard but if he had you'd think you'd hear on the grapevine.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on March 23, 2018, 09:33:55 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 23, 2018, 05:43:22 PM
Good stuff, he must be near 90 now?

85 this year.  He always said he found every day after becoming 75 as a bonus.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omochain on March 24, 2018, 03:03:59 AM
In the 1960s under the leadership of Sheridan and Dunning it was most definitely Academics over Football. BTW that did not suit the less gifted children like me.😇
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rawhide on March 27, 2018, 02:26:20 PM
when is the Hogan semi final?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on March 27, 2018, 03:23:42 PM
St.Ronan's play tomorrow.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Harold Disgracey on March 28, 2018, 03:24:02 PM
St Ronan's won 2-10 to 1-10!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rois on March 28, 2018, 03:28:00 PM
Brilliant - well done St Ronan's.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: balladmaker on March 28, 2018, 03:35:15 PM
Some achievement for St. Ronan's .... a Hogan Cup Final!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on March 28, 2018, 03:36:33 PM
Holy Trinity Cookstown are 4-8 to 2-8 up against Kenmare in the intermediate (don't know the name of this comp) schools semi. Ten mins left.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on March 28, 2018, 03:55:47 PM
Delighted for St.Ronan's!

We had some great wins at St.Pauls/St.Michael's (before the amalgamation), but this is on another level!

9 clubmates on the panel too.  Some day for the parish!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lurganblue on March 28, 2018, 03:58:29 PM
Well done St Ronan's. Luckily got to see some of it on Youtube while pretending to do work  :P
Played well. Big physical team.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on March 28, 2018, 04:15:35 PM
HTC win by 9 after being 10 down with 14 minutes played! Ulster slaying the Kerry dragon well today ;)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 28, 2018, 08:02:58 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 28, 2018, 04:15:35 PM
HTC win by 9 after being 10 down with 14 minutes played! Ulster slaying the Kerry dragon well today ;)
Out of interest how many of the Tyrone AI U17 winning team from last year is on that Tyrone school team?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on March 28, 2018, 11:21:09 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 28, 2018, 08:02:58 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 28, 2018, 04:15:35 PM
HTC win by 9 after being 10 down with 14 minutes played! Ulster slaying the Kerry dragon well today ;)
Out of interest how many of the Tyrone AI U17 winning team from last year is on that Tyrone school team?

Tyrone: L Quinn, A Fox, M McCusker, C Ward, R Slane, C Munroe, T Quinn (0-1), M Murnaghan, J Oguz (0-1), C Donaghy (0-2, 1f), D Canavan (1-3), D Millar (0-3), E Jordan (0-5, 3f), C Donnelly, T Hoy. Subs: O McHugh (0-1) for Slane, M Hayes (1-0) for Hoy, M Conroy (0-2) for Donnelly, R McCabe for Jordan, L Gray for Donaghy

Holy Trinity Cookstown: C Loane, D Canavan, T Quinn, T McNamee, O Mulgrew, C Donnelly (1-0), M McKearney, E Gallagher, P Lagan, K Robinson (0-1), E Devlin, S Murphy (2-1), T Quinn (0-1), Tiernan Mackle (1-1), M Devlin (0-3). Subs: A Moore for Devlin, C Quinn for Robinson, C McGarrity for Murphy, Thomas Mackle (1-0) for Lagan, S Bradley for Gallagher, T Dorris for Mackle

These are both teams, not a massive overlap. Maybe two or three. The D Canavan for HTC is not Darragh.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lurganblue on March 30, 2018, 11:26:19 AM
Interesting wee article.

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/recently-formed-armagh-school-without-pitch-became-hogan-cup-finalists-386060 (https://www.balls.ie/gaa/recently-formed-armagh-school-without-pitch-became-hogan-cup-finalists-386060)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Eamonnca1 on March 30, 2018, 06:01:36 PM
Good article although I'm not sure if I agree with its description of Lurgan as a town best known for soccer. There's about 5 GAA clubs in the town (4 football, 1 hurling), more in the neighbouring countryside. The GAA has always had a huge presence there.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Therealdonald on March 30, 2018, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 30, 2018, 06:01:36 PM
Good article although I'm not sure if I agree with its description of Lurgan as a town best known for soccer. There's about 5 GAA clubs in the town (4 football, 1 hurling), more in the neighbouring countryside. The GAA has always had a huge presence there.

It would be known as more of a soccer town though. Or at least GAA wouldn't have been the no.1 priority for a lot of young people. The tide seems to be turning and long may it continue.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: armaghniac on March 30, 2018, 08:20:19 PM
Why, with 3 schools merging, did they not have pitch between them?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Eamonnca1 on March 30, 2018, 09:12:26 PM
St Paul's never had a grass pitch, they used Davitt Park which is next door.

St Mary's was a girl's school and I don't believe they had a pitch.

St Michael's had two pitches but they're probably being used as a staging ground for the construction of the new campus on that site.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Mickey Linden on March 30, 2018, 09:19:45 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on March 30, 2018, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 30, 2018, 06:01:36 PM
Good article although I'm not sure if I agree with its description of Lurgan as a town best known for soccer. There's about 5 GAA clubs in the town (4 football, 1 hurling), more in the neighbouring countryside. The GAA has always had a huge presence there.

It would be known as more of a soccer town though. Or at least GAA wouldn't have been the no.1 priority for a lot of young people. The tide seems to be turning and long may it continue.

Always thought of lurgan as a gaa town. Dont know of any other town of similar size in ireland that has as many thriving gaa clubs
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on March 30, 2018, 09:55:31 PM
I wouldn't see Lurgan as a soccer town. There is a massive interest in Gaelic football as far as I remember. Maybe in the 80s and before that it was different but in my lifetime it's always been about Gaelic football. Lots of boys play soccer too but gaelic is their first pick!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Throw ball on March 30, 2018, 10:27:41 PM
Over the last number of years I always felt Lurgan wad more of a soccer town. Only 1 of the 4 main clubs in the town plays senior football. In some respects though there may just be too many clubs for the area.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: general_lee on March 31, 2018, 09:33:11 AM
Quote from: Throw ball on March 30, 2018, 10:27:41 PM
Over the last number of years I always felt Lurgan wad more of a soccer town. Only 1 of the 4 main clubs in the town plays senior football. In some respects though there may just be too many clubs for the area.
All of them have been in and out of Senior in the last 5 or 6 years. If Lurgan only had one club it would be some team
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on March 31, 2018, 11:08:10 AM
There must be nearly 10 clubs within a 5 mile radius around Lurgan.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: tonto1888 on March 31, 2018, 02:09:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 30, 2018, 09:55:31 PM
I wouldn't see Lurgan as a soccer town. There is a massive interest in Gaelic football as far as I remember. Maybe in the 80s and before that it was different but in my lifetime it's always been about Gaelic football. Lots of boys play soccer too but gaelic is their first pick!

There's a lot of soccer in Lurgan. Some GAA lads play it to keep fit until the GAA starts back but a lot wouldn't be seen near a GAA club. And that's just the catholic teams
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on March 31, 2018, 06:28:10 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on March 31, 2018, 02:09:00 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 30, 2018, 09:55:31 PM
I wouldn't see Lurgan as a soccer town. There is a massive interest in Gaelic football as far as I remember. Maybe in the 80s and before that it was different but in my lifetime it's always been about Gaelic football. Lots of boys play soccer too but gaelic is their first pick!

There's a lot of soccer in Lurgan. Some GAA lads play it to keep fit until the GAA starts back but a lot wouldn't be seen near a GAA club. And that's just the catholic teams

Is that not the same as all towns? St. Michael's didnt even have a soccer team when I went there.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)

St Enda's, Killyclogher, Drumragh, Tattyreagh from a much smaller town?

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on April 03, 2018, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)

St Enda's, Killyclogher, Drumragh, Tattyreagh from a much smaller town?

They're not all in the town.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: nrico2006 on April 03, 2018, 02:58:06 PM
Are there not 6 in Lurgan?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on April 03, 2018, 03:38:46 PM
In the town itself:
Clann Eireann
St Paul's
St Peter's
Clan Na Gael
Eire Og
Sean Tracey's (Hurling)

The other clubs 2/3 mile away would be:
Wolfe Tones
Sarsfields
St Michael's Magheralin
St Mary's Aghagallon
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:28:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 03, 2018, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)

St Enda's, Killyclogher, Drumragh, Tattyreagh from a much smaller town?

They're not all in the town.

They all draw out of the same pool.  St Enda's take players from all of the areas of all of the others, not by mutual consent and include players already with those clubs at all ages levels.  They even took over the parish pitch when Drumragh finished their own ground and hadn't actually handed it back to the parish.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: oakleafgael on April 03, 2018, 05:32:48 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:28:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 03, 2018, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)

St Enda's, Killyclogher, Drumragh, Tattyreagh from a much smaller town?

They're not all in the town.

They all draw out of the same pool.  St Enda's take players from all of the areas of all of the others, not by mutual consent and include players already with those clubs at all ages levels.  They even took over the parish pitch when Drumragh finished their own ground and hadn't actually handed it back to the parish.

That's a gross exaggeration/simplification.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on April 03, 2018, 05:34:40 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:28:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 03, 2018, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)

St Enda's, Killyclogher, Drumragh, Tattyreagh from a much smaller town?

They're not all in the town.

They all draw out of the same pool.  St Enda's take players from all of the areas of all of the others, not by mutual consent and include players already with those clubs at all ages levels.  They even took over the parish pitch when Drumragh finished their own ground and hadn't actually handed it back to the parish.

If that's the case then Lurgan has 10 clubs as they all take from the same pool.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:35:04 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on April 03, 2018, 05:32:48 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:28:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 03, 2018, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)

St Enda's, Killyclogher, Drumragh, Tattyreagh from a much smaller town?

They're not all in the town.

They all draw out of the same pool.  St Enda's take players from all of the areas of all of the others, not by mutual consent and include players already with those clubs at all ages levels.  They even took over the parish pitch when Drumragh finished their own ground and hadn't actually handed it back to the parish.

That's a gross exaggeration/simplification.

Are you saying it's not true?  If so which part?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: oakleafgael on April 03, 2018, 05:42:22 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:35:04 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on April 03, 2018, 05:32:48 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:28:18 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 03, 2018, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)

St Enda's, Killyclogher, Drumragh, Tattyreagh from a much smaller town?

They're not all in the town.

They all draw out of the same pool.  St Enda's take players from all of the areas of all of the others, not by mutual consent and include players already with those clubs at all ages levels.  They even took over the parish pitch when Drumragh finished their own ground and hadn't actually handed it back to the parish.

That's a gross exaggeration/simplification.

Are you saying it's not true?  If so which part?

That St Enda's take players from all of the areas of all of the others.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:58:48 PM
Taking only the senior team over the last 3/4 years of their recent successes built on the underage teams over the previous 6/8 years. So, the former Tattyreagh players don't count?  The Killyclogher residents don't count?  Drumragh parishioners don't count?


Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: oakleafgael on April 03, 2018, 09:30:05 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:58:48 PM
Taking only the senior team over the last 3/4 years of their recent successes built on the underage teams over the previous 6/8 years. So, the former Tattyreagh players don't count?  The Killyclogher residents don't count?  Drumragh parishioners don't count?

What players from the heart of Tattyreagh play for Omagh Seniors? Killyclogher and Omagh town have effectively merged and family ties are more important as to where players play when considering those two. Are St Endas, Drumragh and Tattyreagh not all in Drumragh parish so I don't get the Drumragh parishioners reference? I have a full list of all club transfers in Tyrone over the last number of years, I wouldn't class any of the transfers between any of the clubs as particularly controversial. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Eamonnca1 on April 03, 2018, 09:49:24 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)

That's the truth! At one point there was even three cycling clubs. I think it's 2 now (unless Lurgan Road Club is still around).
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: illdecide on April 04, 2018, 09:12:35 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on April 04, 2018, 02:21:40 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 31, 2018, 09:56:17 AM
Five clubs In one town tells me there are some argumentative hoors in Lurgan! ;)

St Enda's, Killyclogher, Drumragh, T****reagh from a much smaller town?
'ccording to the last census, Lurgan has just over 25k while Omagh is just under 20k. Certainly a difference, but I wouldn't say "much" smaller.

St. Enda's is effectively the "town" club and straddles the Drumragh and Cappagh parishes. Killyclogher is effectively a suburb of Omagh these days within the Cappagh parish. Drumragh's heartland has always been in Clanabogan/Tattysallagh but their time of being based at St. Pat's Park in the town helped drag a fair few "townies" in with them. T****reagh lies more in just being on the southern edge of Drumragh parish, Fintona's their nearest club while Eskra, Drumragh & Killyclogher's grounds would also be nearer them than St. Pat's Park or Healy Park. Those with long memories might also remember Mountfield which lies in Cappagh.

Speaking of St. Patrick's Park, I always presumed that the Drumragh/Cappagh boundary was bound by the Strule & Drumragh rivers, but if this was the case StPP would lie in Cappagh while AFAIK the land on which St. Patrick's Park lies on is owned by the Catholic Parish of Drumragh while Healy Park I'm 95% certain lies in Cappagh. Anyone know for sure?

Lurgan has 50% Protestant and then from that take the female wildebeast out of that too
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on April 05, 2018, 01:18:12 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on April 03, 2018, 09:30:05 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:58:48 PM
Taking only the senior team over the last 3/4 years of their recent successes built on the underage teams over the previous 6/8 years. So, the former Tattyreagh players don't count?  The Killyclogher residents don't count?  Drumragh parishioners don't count?

What players from the heart of Tattyreagh play for Omagh Seniors? Killyclogher and Omagh town have effectively merged and family ties are more important as to where players play when considering those two. Are St Endas, Drumragh and Tattyreagh not all in Drumragh parish so I don't get the Drumragh parishioners reference? I have a full list of all club transfers in Tyrone over the last number of years, I wouldn't class any of the transfers between any of the clubs as particularly controversial.

Hugh Gallagher, who has captained the team to the Tyrone SFC, and his brothers moved to Omagh from Tattyreagh and that would have been thought to be an interesting move by such quality players.

St Enda's is in Cappagh parish as is Killyclogher.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: oakleafgael on April 05, 2018, 11:03:42 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 05, 2018, 01:18:12 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on April 03, 2018, 09:30:05 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 03, 2018, 05:58:48 PM
Taking only the senior team over the last 3/4 years of their recent successes built on the underage teams over the previous 6/8 years. So, the former Tattyreagh players don't count?  The Killyclogher residents don't count?  Drumragh parishioners don't count?

What players from the heart of Tattyreagh play for Omagh Seniors? Killyclogher and Omagh town have effectively merged and family ties are more important as to where players play when considering those two. Are St Endas, Drumragh and Tattyreagh not all in Drumragh parish so I don't get the Drumragh parishioners reference? I have a full list of all club transfers in Tyrone over the last number of years, I wouldn't class any of the transfers between any of the clubs as particularly controversial.

Hugh Gallagher, who has captained the team to the Tyrone SFC, and his brothers moved to Omagh from Tattyreagh and that would have been thought to be an interesting move by such quality players.

St Enda's is in Cappagh parish as is Killyclogher.

St Enda's pitch is in Cappagh parish but they are a Drumragh parish club. Are you seriously suggesting that people who live in Drumragh Parish shouldn't be playing for Omagh?

We will have to agree to disagree.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: general_lee on April 06, 2018, 06:56:33 PM
Locals always tend to say Lurgan is 50/50 because unionists act like they still own it but reality is the majority of development in the town over the last 20 years has been in the nationalist north end of town. Very much a commuter town to Belfast and plenty of people (all seemingly fenian) with no ties to the town setting up camp due to affordable housing and commuting distance to the city

Anywho, all the best to St Ronans tomorrow in the Hogan final tomorrow!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: PMG1 on April 07, 2018, 01:33:20 PM
Is there coverage of today's two All Ireland school finals on anywhere?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: WT4E on April 07, 2018, 01:59:31 PM
Quote from: PMG1 on April 07, 2018, 01:33:20 PM
Is there coverage of today's two All Ireland school finals on anywhere?

Cookstown match on TG4.ie I think and the other game is on TG4 TV
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 07, 2018, 02:18:57 PM
Cookstown strolling this game so far and should be further ahead two goals missed.
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Post by: Owen Brannigan on April 07, 2018, 02:47:09 PM
TG4 on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLgG77NH4NU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLgG77NH4NU)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dire Ear on April 07, 2018, 03:12:11 PM
Cookstown 18-4 up
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Post by: Dire Ear on April 07, 2018, 03:21:11 PM
All over 0-19 to 1-6
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Post by: Owen Brannigan on April 07, 2018, 03:23:57 PM
Well done Holy Trinity.  Played a great kicking game.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on April 07, 2018, 03:33:36 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 07, 2018, 03:23:57 PM
Well done Holy Trinity.  Played a great kicking game.
Great defensive game also even when 15 points ahead at one stage they didn't want to give Nathys any time or room on the ball.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on April 07, 2018, 03:37:23 PM
Hogan Cup final

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ9hTS8wnN4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ9hTS8wnN4)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 07, 2018, 04:11:41 PM
10 mins in this game is looking like a more competitive final than the last one.
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Post by: balladmaker on April 07, 2018, 04:17:14 PM
St. Ronan's are the stronger looking team so far.
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Post by: balladmaker on April 07, 2018, 04:18:51 PM
As good a 45m kicking you'll see in Croke Park, three in a row for St. Ronan's.
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Post by: Captain Obvious on April 07, 2018, 04:21:28 PM
Good game this serious pace to it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 07, 2018, 04:23:44 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on April 07, 2018, 04:18:51 PM
As good a 45m kicking you'll see in Croke Park, three in a row for St. Ronan's.
One of the worst kicked there now. Goal chance not taken before it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: David McKeown on April 07, 2018, 04:33:58 PM
Great game so far. Rice seemed to weather the purple patch from St a Ronan's rightly but still too close to call
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Post by: Harold Disgracey on April 07, 2018, 04:36:05 PM
Strange first half, St Ronan's going in two down but could easily have been 5 or 6 up. Rice College getting the rub of the green and making the most of their chances.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Zulu on April 07, 2018, 04:39:02 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on April 07, 2018, 04:17:14 PM
St. Ronan's are the stronger looking team so far.

Bar a ten minute period in the middle of the half I thought it was very much even, perhaps the Mayo team the better overall. Some very good footballers on both sides to be fair and I'd expect it to go to the last ten minutes. Mind you the way Ronan's are flooding back players in they get a three or four point lead they might be able to shut it down.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 07, 2018, 04:53:06 PM
St Ronan's kicking this game away now.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 07, 2018, 04:54:09 PM
Goal for Ronans it was coming!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Zulu on April 07, 2018, 04:58:10 PM
Rice already trying to slow the game down which doesn't bode well for them as it appears they don't have the confidence in themselves to win it.
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Post by: Zulu on April 07, 2018, 05:00:02 PM
Some awful decisions being made by the Mayo lads who are starting to play as individuals.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on April 07, 2018, 05:05:48 PM
1-9 to 1-8 Rice lead 10 mins remaining still all to play for between two well matched sides.
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Post by: Zulu on April 07, 2018, 05:06:20 PM
Again a Rice player caught in possession going nowhere. Is it because they are all sitting back and have no options ahead of themselves?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 07, 2018, 05:07:09 PM
Level and very enjoyable Hogan cup final.
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Post by: Captain Obvious on April 07, 2018, 05:07:47 PM
Score of the game that! Ronans lead.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on April 07, 2018, 05:19:04 PM
A heartbreaking loss for Rice but to be honest i think the best team on the day won.
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Post by: Owen Brannigan on April 07, 2018, 05:19:20 PM
Well done St Ronan's.

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Post by: Zulu on April 07, 2018, 05:19:35 PM
Tight game but I thought Ronan's went for it more and therefore deserved to win.
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Post by: Harold Disgracey on April 07, 2018, 05:19:43 PM
Well done St Ronan's, delighted for big Leo.
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Post by: longballin on April 07, 2018, 05:20:26 PM
Fantastic achievement and not a bad game!
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Post by: Rois on April 07, 2018, 05:22:47 PM
What a result!!! Well done St Ronan's and a very enjoyable game. My husband is down at it, plenty of proud Lurgan folk this evening.

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Post by: whitey on April 07, 2018, 05:23:53 PM
Like many Mayo teams they couldnt put it away......3 chances at the end to level or even win and they missed all three, including a very kickable free
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 07, 2018, 05:27:28 PM
Congrats to St Ronan's deserving winners
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 07, 2018, 05:31:07 PM
Quote from: whitey on April 07, 2018, 05:23:53 PM
Like all Mayo teams they couldnt put it away......3 chances at the end to level or even win and they missed all three, including a very kickable free
Stop the stereotyping. Westport inters,Mayo minors and U21s all won All Irelands recently.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: whitey on April 07, 2018, 05:35:12 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 07, 2018, 05:31:07 PM
Quote from: whitey on April 07, 2018, 05:23:53 PM
Like all Mayo teams they couldnt put it away......3 chances at the end to level or even win and they missed all three, including a very kickable free
Stop the stereotyping. Westport inters,Mayo minors and U21s all won All Irelands recently.

Good point....I edited my post. I almost threw the iPad out the window with temper at the final whistle
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on April 07, 2018, 05:39:55 PM
Only the second Armagh school to win the Hogan Cup and the first in 70 years, even if it was with a significant input from Antrim.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: BennyCake on April 07, 2018, 06:15:39 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 07, 2018, 05:39:55 PM
Only the second Armagh school to win the Hogan Cup and the first in 70 years, even if it was with a significant input from Antrim.

Yeah but didn't Colman's win the Hogan? They'd be half Armagh.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: balladmaker on April 07, 2018, 06:17:06 PM
Some result for St. Ronan's, just 3 years old and land their first Hogan Cup, congrats to all involved.  They showed that they wanted it more, deserving winners.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on April 07, 2018, 07:37:57 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on April 07, 2018, 06:17:06 PM
Some result for St. Ronan's, just 3 years old and land their first Hogan Cup, congrats to all involved.  They showed that they wanted it more, deserving winners.

Don't think they wanted it any more than Rice College who played the wrong game/tactics.  They were far too defensive and in the end they kicked away their advantage in possession against a team who needed an insurance score but couldn't break the blanket defence.

Thank goodness St Ronan's came out on the right side.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on April 07, 2018, 08:10:18 PM
Wow! Absolutely delighted for St.Ronan's.

Some achievement! Town is buzzing!

A winning point worthy of any All-Ireland final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: nrico2006 on April 07, 2018, 08:51:59 PM
Referee was terrible. St Ronans seemed intent on kicking it away, better team and players alot better conditioned. Surprised to see tye Mayo school take off their best forward.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rrhf on April 07, 2018, 10:37:25 PM
Great days football at Croker. HTC were superbly drilled but they have some great talents and have real character as footballers who will hopefully be in red hand jerseys in the future. This school is doing serious work with their lads and lassies in football. St Ronan's were fantastic and an amazing story behind their rise to the top. An example for any school on how to harness talent.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Eamonnca1 on April 07, 2018, 11:25:46 PM
What a terrific game to watch. Well done to all involved.
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Post by: illdecide on April 08, 2018, 12:00:28 AM
St Ronan's deserved their win and to be truthful should have won with a few to spare, def should have been 4-5 pts up at HT but a lucky goal and some poor shooting left them with a much harder task in the second half. The second half was a bit closer and I always thought St Ronan's were going to have to score a goal to win it and they got it (u could see it coming), great point to win it which wouldn't have looked out of place at a senior inter county game. To be fair Rice had a few chances at the end to at least earn a draw and one of their misses was a shocker but a great game and I think the best team won...

A great boost for the town of Lurgan (and Aghagallon), hopefully a lot of them lads will strut their stuff at senior level and drive their teams forward...Well done St Ronan's...

Thought there would have been a bigger crowd???(and that rain afterwards was a bollix)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on April 08, 2018, 12:11:40 AM
Great boost for Lurgan, Aghagallon, Trasna and Derrymacash! Also, I thought Big Leo from Portadown had his best game in a while. There must be about 10 clubs involved in the win.
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Post by: Eamonnca1 on April 08, 2018, 03:49:55 AM
Is young Smyth any relation to Jimmy?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Don Johnson on April 08, 2018, 10:21:15 AM
Don't think so. His da is from Craigavon, stones throw from Lismore.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on April 08, 2018, 10:23:37 AM
Who was St Ronan's 45m kicker who could teach county players how to do it? What club is he from?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Harold Disgracey on April 08, 2018, 10:31:22 AM
Shane McConville's son Eoin from St Paul's. Saw him kick some of the finest points I'd ever seen in the Athletic Grounds in an U16 final a two years ago.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: illdecide on April 08, 2018, 10:17:48 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on April 08, 2018, 10:31:22 AM
Shane McConville's son Eoin from St Paul's. Saw him kick some of the finest points I'd ever seen in the Athletic Grounds in an U16 final a two years ago.

He kicked a belter today v Clans in Davitt Pk
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: illdecide on April 08, 2018, 10:22:57 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 08, 2018, 03:49:55 AM
Is young Smyth any relation to Jimmy?

No...Def not. Oisin Smyth I think is from Sarsfields (Sáirséil)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Mickey Linden on April 08, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
Dynamic of ulster schools football has fairly changed. Was talking to a first year pupil at the match yesterday and they were saying there were 280 in their year. Ill be amazed if st ronans dont win at least 3 mccrorys in next 10 years. Not too many gaels from lurgan be getting buses to armagh newry or lismore to attend school
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ardchieftain on April 08, 2018, 11:16:38 PM
Young Smith is Sarsfields. Watched him from the opposition dugout many times. The lad doesn't now how good he is.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on April 09, 2018, 12:12:55 AM
Quote from: illdecide on April 08, 2018, 10:17:48 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on April 08, 2018, 10:31:22 AM
Shane McConville's son Eoin from St Paul's. Saw him kick some of the finest points I'd ever seen in the Athletic Grounds in an U16 final a two years ago.

He kicked a belter today v Clans in Davitt Pk

Some strike alright! And then he got head butted!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omochain on April 09, 2018, 01:24:27 AM
Best striker of a ball I have ever seen was also a lad from Lurgan. Frank Toman. Was able to point 50's back in 1968 when he was 16 or 17.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on April 09, 2018, 08:52:35 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 08, 2018, 03:49:55 AM
Is young Smyth any relation to Jimmy?

Nope, Oisin's da was a soccer man.  His uncle on his ma's side is Pat McGibbon, played a bit of GAA for Armagh minors, but then went to Man United, Wigan and a few other clubs.

Oisin is a great soccer player as well.  Plays with Dungannon Swifts.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: armaghniac on April 09, 2018, 10:01:29 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on April 08, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
Dynamic of ulster schools football has fairly changed. Was talking to a first year pupil at the match yesterday and they were saying there were 280 in their year. Ill be amazed if st ronans dont win at least 3 mccrorys in next 10 years. Not too many gaels from lurgan be getting buses to armagh newry or lismore to attend school

Half of whom are females, no doubt. So a boys school with 90 or 100 in one year might still be competitive.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on April 09, 2018, 10:17:32 AM
Will the intake at Lower and Upper sixth really change that much though?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: tyroneman on April 09, 2018, 01:25:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 09, 2018, 10:17:32 AM
Will the intake at Lower and Upper sixth really change that much though?

Hard to tell really.

Of the 3 schools that amalgamated:

- 1 was all girl (so wouldn't factor into the MacRory team anyway)
- 1 (St Pauls) had no pupils at MacRory age - they all had to transfer after GCSE
- 1 was St Michaels, which would have had all the MacRory age pupils - including some transfers from St Pauls

So it wasn't like the St Ronans amalgamation suddenly meant that had a massive increase in MacRory age players to pick from.

Now with SR being all ability - you might well retain pupils who would have previously left St Pauls after GCSE and not gone to St Michaels, however you will also always have fellas who leave after GCSE anyway and mix in parents who want thier children to have a grammar education and will send them to Newry etc instead (which is already happening).

So, possibly a small increase in MacRory eligible players, but not as big as people might think.....
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on April 09, 2018, 02:40:55 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on April 09, 2018, 01:25:01 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 09, 2018, 10:17:32 AM
Will the intake at Lower and Upper sixth really change that much though?

Hard to tell really.

Of the 3 schools that amalgamated:

- 1 was all girl (so wouldn't factor into the MacRory team anyway)
- 1 (St Pauls) had no pupils at MacRory age - they all had to transfer after GCSE
- 1 was St Michaels, which would have had all the MacRory age pupils - including some transfers from St Pauls

So it wasn't like the St Ronans amalgamation suddenly meant that had a massive increase in MacRory age players to pick from.

Now with SR being all ability - you might well retain pupils who would have previously left St Pauls after GCSE and not gone to St Michaels, however you will also always have fellas who leave after GCSE anyway and mix in parents who want thier children to have a grammar education and will send them to Newry etc instead (which is already happening).

So, possibly a small increase in MacRory eligible players, but not as big as people might think.....

That's my thinking on it. The pick they have currently wouldn't been much different if it was still St. Michael's. The Armagh minors champs and Antrim minor finalists dominated the panel. Lismore pupils who are anyway serious about sport will head towards St Ronan's now though.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Don Johnson on April 09, 2018, 05:15:13 PM
Can admin change the thread title to 'Come and have a chat with Jim about St Ronans' please?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on April 09, 2018, 05:51:02 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on April 09, 2018, 05:15:13 PM
Can admin change the thread title to 'Come and have a chat with Jim about St Ronans' please?

Well we could talk about St Coleman's???  ::)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Eamonnca1 on April 09, 2018, 05:57:48 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on April 09, 2018, 05:15:13 PM
Can admin change the thread title to 'Come and have a chat with Jim about St Ronans' please?

Indeed. How dare he talk about the winners of the competition in the thread title a few days after they won.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on April 09, 2018, 07:30:34 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 09, 2018, 10:01:29 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on April 08, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
Dynamic of ulster schools football has fairly changed. Was talking to a first year pupil at the match yesterday and they were saying there were 280 in their year. Ill be amazed if st ronans dont win at least 3 mccrorys in next 10 years. Not too many gaels from lurgan be getting buses to armagh newry or lismore to attend school

Half of whom are females, no doubt. So a boys school with 90 or 100 in one year might still be competitive.

Two schools in Newry have over 100 in each year group and have not been exactly competitive in recent years.

Ulster Colleges football is being affected like the Sigerson was many years ago, when it was opened to all third level colleges, as it has been opened to all schools with the amalgamation/demise of the Vocational Schools.  Almost any school can progress up through the grades if it has sufficient numbers with the talent and drive to compete.  Two of the big and formerly Vocational schools, Holy Trinity in Cookstown and St Ciaran's Ballygawley are now making the move against the traditional colleges.  St Ronan's is another example of how a school not previously known as a top footballing school can make it to the top.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Eamonnca1 on April 09, 2018, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 09, 2018, 07:30:34 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 09, 2018, 10:01:29 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on April 08, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
Dynamic of ulster schools football has fairly changed. Was talking to a first year pupil at the match yesterday and they were saying there were 280 in their year. Ill be amazed if st ronans dont win at least 3 mccrorys in next 10 years. Not too many gaels from lurgan be getting buses to armagh newry or lismore to attend school

Half of whom are females, no doubt. So a boys school with 90 or 100 in one year might still be competitive.

Two schools in Newry have over 100 in each year group and have not been exactly competitive in recent years.

Ulster Colleges football is being affected like the Sigerson was many years ago, when it was opened to all third level colleges, as it has been opened to all schools with the amalgamation/demise of the Vocational Schools.  Almost any school can progress up through the grades if it has sufficient numbers with the talent and drive to compete.  Two of the big and formerly Vocational schools, Holy Trinity in Cookstown and St Ciaran's Ballygawley are now making the move against the traditional colleges.  St Ronan's is another example of how a school not previously known as a top footballing school can make it to the top.

Not sure if I'd describe St Ronan's as a school not previously known for football. Its predecessor, St Michael's, had a strong football tradition and won the MacLarnon Cup 4 times.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: macdanger2 on April 09, 2018, 08:40:16 PM
Quote from: ardchieftain on April 08, 2018, 11:16:38 PM
Young Smith is Sarsfields. Watched him from the opposition dugout many times. The lad doesn't now how good he is.

Just watched the highlights on TG4, he scored some lovely points
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on April 10, 2018, 08:22:22 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 09, 2018, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 09, 2018, 07:30:34 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 09, 2018, 10:01:29 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on April 08, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
Dynamic of ulster schools football has fairly changed. Was talking to a first year pupil at the match yesterday and they were saying there were 280 in their year. Ill be amazed if st ronans dont win at least 3 mccrorys in next 10 years. Not too many gaels from lurgan be getting buses to armagh newry or lismore to attend school

Half of whom are females, no doubt. So a boys school with 90 or 100 in one year might still be competitive.

Two schools in Newry have over 100 in each year group and have not been exactly competitive in recent years.

Ulster Colleges football is being affected like the Sigerson was many years ago, when it was opened to all third level colleges, as it has been opened to all schools with the amalgamation/demise of the Vocational Schools.  Almost any school can progress up through the grades if it has sufficient numbers with the talent and drive to compete.  Two of the big and formerly Vocational schools, Holy Trinity in Cookstown and St Ciaran's Ballygawley are now making the move against the traditional colleges.  St Ronan's is another example of how a school not previously known as a top footballing school can make it to the top.

Not sure if I'd describe St Ronan's as a school not previously known for football. Its predecessor, St Michael's, had a strong football tradition and won the MacLarnon Cup 4 times.

And our very own JimStynes captained them to one.....
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on April 10, 2018, 02:59:00 PM
A lifetime ago now!
And St Michael's won more than 4 maclarnon's.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Owen Brannigan on April 10, 2018, 05:26:28 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 09, 2018, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 09, 2018, 07:30:34 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 09, 2018, 10:01:29 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on April 08, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
Dynamic of ulster schools football has fairly changed. Was talking to a first year pupil at the match yesterday and they were saying there were 280 in their year. Ill be amazed if st ronans dont win at least 3 mccrorys in next 10 years. Not too many gaels from lurgan be getting buses to armagh newry or lismore to attend school

Half of whom are females, no doubt. So a boys school with 90 or 100 in one year might still be competitive.

Two schools in Newry have over 100 in each year group and have not been exactly competitive in recent years.

Ulster Colleges football is being affected like the Sigerson was many years ago, when it was opened to all third level colleges, as it has been opened to all schools with the amalgamation/demise of the Vocational Schools.  Almost any school can progress up through the grades if it has sufficient numbers with the talent and drive to compete.  Two of the big and formerly Vocational schools, Holy Trinity in Cookstown and St Ciaran's Ballygawley are now making the move against the traditional colleges.  St Ronan's is another example of how a school not previously known as a top footballing school can make it to the top.

Not sure if I'd describe St Ronan's as a school not previously known for football. Its predecessor, St Michael's, had a strong football tradition and won the MacLarnon Cup 4 times.

Even Greenpark CBS won the MacLarnon Cup.  There is a major step up to win a MacRory and Hogan and St Ronan's made the leap when the conditions were right and the talent became available with great work in the local clubs.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on April 10, 2018, 07:16:29 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 10, 2018, 05:26:28 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 09, 2018, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 09, 2018, 07:30:34 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 09, 2018, 10:01:29 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on April 08, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
Dynamic of ulster schools football has fairly changed. Was talking to a first year pupil at the match yesterday and they were saying there were 280 in their year. Ill be amazed if st ronans dont win at least 3 mccrorys in next 10 years. Not too many gaels from lurgan be getting buses to armagh newry or lismore to attend school

Half of whom are females, no doubt. So a boys school with 90 or 100 in one year might still be competitive.

Two schools in Newry have over 100 in each year group and have not been exactly competitive in recent years.

Ulster Colleges football is being affected like the Sigerson was many years ago, when it was opened to all third level colleges, as it has been opened to all schools with the amalgamation/demise of the Vocational Schools.  Almost any school can progress up through the grades if it has sufficient numbers with the talent and drive to compete.  Two of the big and formerly Vocational schools, Holy Trinity in Cookstown and St Ciaran's Ballygawley are now making the move against the traditional colleges.  St Ronan's is another example of how a school not previously known as a top footballing school can make it to the top.

Not sure if I'd describe St Ronan's as a school not previously known for football. Its predecessor, St Michael's, had a strong football tradition and won the MacLarnon Cup 4 times.

Even Greenpark CBS won the MacLarnon Cup.  There is a major step up to win a MacRory and Hogan and St Ronan's made the leap when the conditions were right and the talent became available with great work in the local clubs.
That Greenpark CBS (Or Armagh CBS) team were unlucky to get chinned by eventual winners St Mary's CBS in the Mac Rory semi the next year.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Kickham csc on April 11, 2018, 04:25:06 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on April 11, 2018, 03:00:31 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on April 09, 2018, 07:30:34 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 09, 2018, 10:01:29 AM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on April 08, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
Dynamic of ulster schools football has fairly changed. Was talking to a first year pupil at the match yesterday and they were saying there were 280 in their year. Ill be amazed if st ronans dont win at least 3 mccrorys in next 10 years. Not too many gaels from lurgan be getting buses to armagh newry or lismore to attend school

Half of whom are females, no doubt. So a boys school with 90 or 100 in one year might still be competitive.

Two schools in Newry have over 100 in each year group and have not been exactly competitive in recent years.

Ulster Colleges football is being affected like the Sigerson was many years ago, when it was opened to all third level colleges, as it has been opened to all schools with the amalgamation/demise of the Vocational Schools.  Almost any school can progress up through the grades if it has sufficient numbers with the talent and drive to compete.  Two of the big and formerly Vocational schools, Holy Trinity in Cookstown and St Ciaran's Ballygawley are now making the move against the traditional colleges.  St Ronan's is another example of how a school not previously known as a top footballing school can make it to the top.
You can add Bessbrook & Castlewellan to that, and to a lesser extent Virginia College in Cavan though they've yet to make an "A" grade breakthrough as far as I know. Ballygawley have a knack of being able to punch well above their weight on a consistent basis - it's very much a "rural" school with a student demographic that is pretty much all "rural" where except those living in Ballygawley all students travel then on board buses, it has a roll number of around 700-750, being co-ed around half of that will be girls and being a non-selective school, a significant amount of their students that do their GCSE's in Year 12 won't stay on to Year 13 there. At a rough guess they have probably around 35-40 boys or so each in Years 13 & 14 which is small compared to the more seasoned MacRory Cup competitors. In saying that I see at lower age levels this year they've been competing at "C" level so maybe the recent pupil intake there isn't as strong in terms of football ability that it has been recently.

Was the past MacRory Cup the first one in a very long time where there was no Donegal school taking part? St. Eunan's were playing in MacLaron this year instead while a lot of other post-primary Donegal schools were playing in the Markey Cup as well (mental note - I think St. Eunan's were also playing in the MacLaron cup a few years ago as well? If so that would answer my own question!). I think every other Ulster county had at least one school competing in the MacRory this year. I'd say in due course with the changes not only in schools GAA competition in Ulster but also within the "northern six" with regards to school closures/amalgamations, post-16 provisions etc. things will become interesting. Had the schools competitions been as one say 20-30 years ago, a few FE colleges in the north might have been able to give the MacLaron or even occasionally the MacRory a decent lash - unlikely that'll happen in the near future though.

Some would consider Maghera the first to make the jump, and if you ready the recent MacRory Cup history book that was launched a couple of years ago, the Ulster Council weren't too welcoming to Maghera
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Kickham csc on April 12, 2018, 09:17:46 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on April 11, 2018, 04:43:33 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on April 11, 2018, 04:25:06 PMSome would consider Maghera the first to make the jump, and if you ready the recent MacRory Cup history book that was launched a couple of years ago, the Ulster Council weren't too welcoming to Maghera
In what year did Maghera join the Ulster Colleges set up? From memory, I don't recall them ever winning any Ulster titles at Vocational Schools level whereas St. Pius X in Magherafelt had a string of VS success in the late 70's & early 80's which also powered the Derry county team to several All-Ireland titles before dropping off the radar - presumably they joined the colleges setup at some point in the 80's?

Bessbrook seemed to be lying in the football doldrums for quite some time before they reached a McDevitt (U14) final in 2004 I think. They were definitely defeated that day by Dean Maguirc Carrickmore. They eventually won an Ulster VS title, reached a Markey Cup semi final one year as well before deciding to throw their lot in with the colleges set up as they thought they had the talent coming through to give the MacRory cup a fair go and they certainly did, winning a McCormick Cup and almost a MacRory Cup not long after. While Bessbrook does have an advantage in its sheer student numbers it shows that if you have the talent and facilities available at your disposal to make a go of it and add a bit of belief, you can make a go of it. And to a large extent that's what St. Ronan's have achieved with.

I understand that when St. Pat's were formed in the 60's they applied to play in the Colleges competitions, but got major pushback from the council who believed, that as the school was not a grammar school, they should have been playing in VS football. They had to get written approval from VS to play in the colleges but the colleges still resisted, but St. Pat's won out in the end.

I know from my time there, there was an element of them 'v' us, which help fuel our determination to succeed.

The school structure is the same as St Ronan's, St Paul's, ie it is a non selective college that at the time took both people who got A, M and F in the 11+
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnnycool on April 12, 2018, 09:40:28 AM
Quote from: Kickham csc on April 12, 2018, 09:17:46 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on April 11, 2018, 04:43:33 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on April 11, 2018, 04:25:06 PMSome would consider Maghera the first to make the jump, and if you ready the recent MacRory Cup history book that was launched a couple of years ago, the Ulster Council weren't too welcoming to Maghera
In what year did Maghera join the Ulster Colleges set up? From memory, I don't recall them ever winning any Ulster titles at Vocational Schools level whereas St. Pius X in Magherafelt had a string of VS success in the late 70's & early 80's which also powered the Derry county team to several All-Ireland titles before dropping off the radar - presumably they joined the colleges setup at some point in the 80's?

Bessbrook seemed to be lying in the football doldrums for quite some time before they reached a McDevitt (U14) final in 2004 I think. They were definitely defeated that day by Dean Maguirc Carrickmore. They eventually won an Ulster VS title, reached a Markey Cup semi final one year as well before deciding to throw their lot in with the colleges set up as they thought they had the talent coming through to give the MacRory cup a fair go and they certainly did, winning a McCormick Cup and almost a MacRory Cup not long after. While Bessbrook does have an advantage in its sheer student numbers it shows that if you have the talent and facilities available at your disposal to make a go of it and add a bit of belief, you can make a go of it. And to a large extent that's what St. Ronan's have achieved with.

I understand that when St. Pat's were formed in the 60's they applied to play in the Colleges competitions, but got major pushback from the council who believed, that as the school was not a grammar school, they should have been playing in VS football. They had to get written approval from VS to play in the colleges but the colleges still resisted, but St. Pat's won out in the end.

I know from my time there, there was an element of them 'v' us, which help fuel our determination to succeed.

The school structure is the same as St Ronan's, St Paul's, ie it is a non selective college that at the time took both people who got A, M and F in the 11+

Sure a lot of Grammar schools now are filling their seats with children getting a lot less than an A in the entrance exams and that bit of snobbery is being eroded.

St Patrick's Red High in Downpatrick is the same. There's currently talk of an amalgamation with three other comprehensive schools in the area and it isn't going down well with the Red Highers, but it'll happen all the same.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Orior on April 14, 2018, 06:43:48 AM
Throw in the drive by some people for inter-denominational schools then the McCrory cup will gravitate towards the ghettos like Crossmaglen.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 14, 2018, 09:37:20 AM
From my knowledge the local catchment around Maghera (i.e 5-6 miles) don't have to sit the 11+ and are graded by P7 teachers and then an early exam in 1st year. It's those outside the area that have to pass to get in, with the caveat of an older brother/sister at the school being in your favour or you are a top footballer lol.

Each year group has 4 grammar stream classes and 4 non grammar. Few years back mind you. Maybe different now.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: FermGael on April 14, 2018, 10:17:01 AM
Bigger issue IMO for Ulster colleges is with the Impending closure of alot of smaller "vocational" schools due to lack of numbers and government policy to try and centralise resources ( which is madness -you only have to look at the mess that has been made of the English system with this policy) , what happens the vast majority of lads in these schools who probably all play for their clubs and never make a mcrory squad ?

Also the current state of Gaelic in FE colleges ( the old "techs") is very sad to see.
Seems nobody wants to take responsibility for it .
I remember a time when those Colleges won all Ireland's and would have given most mcrory teams a run for their money

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 14, 2018, 10:47:45 AM
St marys magherafelt played maclarnon for years due to the set up of the classes; roughly 5 classes with 17 girls and 9 or 10 boys! Left a total of 50 boys in years upper and lower sixth to try pick a team from! Total intake a year was round 134; think it mire evenly split boy girl ratio these days!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 14, 2018, 10:51:42 AM
St pius magherafelt always used to produce great players and good school teams but until recent years had only went up to 5th yr! There was a time in the late 70's early 80's when they stayed to 18 that they won 3 VS  cups in a row and were probably better than the corresponding maccrory cup winners at the time!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Fr. Cyril McDuff on April 14, 2018, 12:05:06 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 14, 2018, 09:37:20 AM
From my knowledge the local catchment around Maghera (i.e 5-6 miles) don't have to sit the 11+ and are graded by P7 teachers and then an early exam in 1st year. It's those outside the area that have to pass to get in, with the caveat of an older brother/sister at the school being in your favour or you are a top footballer lol.

Each year group has 4 grammar stream classes and 4 non grammar. Few years back mind you. Maybe different now.

Still a similar set up, though apparently there have been suggestions of dropping the grammar stream by the new head teacher.
Children at feeder primary schools (Glen and Glenview in Maghera, Tirkane, Swatragh and Gulladuff I think) don't have to do a transfer test but can still be in the grammar stream depending on their primary school reports.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Newbridge Exile on April 14, 2018, 12:57:31 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 14, 2018, 10:51:42 AM
St pius magherafelt always used to produce great players and good school teams but until recent years had only went up to 5th yr! There was a time in the late 70's early 80's when they stayed to 18 that they won 3 VS  cups in a row and were probably better than the corresponding maccrory cup winners at the time!
Yep Damian Barton, Mickey Berryman  Ronan McCuaker Marty Bradley amongst others on those StPius teams from memory
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Targetman on November 30, 2018, 10:50:01 PM
Apparently a player was air lifted to hospital during a Mac Rory cup game today between Cavan and Carrickmacross, anyone hear of this?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Itchy on November 30, 2018, 10:53:21 PM
Quote from: Targetman on November 30, 2018, 10:50:01 PM
Apparently a player was air lifted to hospital during a Mac Rory cup game today between Cavan and Carrickmacross, anyone hear of this?

Off the ball strike I was told, cavan player taken away to hospital. I hope it was not as cynical as it was reported to me.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Dire Ear on December 06, 2018, 02:00:39 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-46469758
Gardaí (Irish police) have said they have received a report of an alleged assault on a boy following an incident during a Ulster Schools GAA match
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on December 06, 2018, 02:08:40 PM
Quote from: Dire Ear on December 06, 2018, 02:00:39 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-46469758
Gardaí (Irish police) have said they have received a report of an alleged assault on a boy following an incident during a Ulster Schools GAA match

There's a sea change in the way these off the ball strikes are being handled. Someone is going to do time. Pressure from the public is going to see the Gardai and PSNI involved.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on February 27, 2019, 09:22:03 PM
St Pats Armagh v Omagh CBS abandoned at ht due to fog with Armagh leading 1.7 to 0.4, replay Friday night.

Full game replay or just 2nd half, whats the regulations?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: oakleafgael on February 27, 2019, 09:29:32 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 27, 2019, 09:22:03 PM
St Pats Armagh v Omagh CBS abandoned at ht due to fog with Armagh leading 1.7 to 0.4, replay Friday night.

Full game replay or just 2nd half, whats the regulations?

New game. It shouldn't ever have started.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on February 27, 2019, 09:42:15 PM
Very deflating situation for Armagh, especially as underdogs. :-\
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: oakleafgael on February 27, 2019, 09:54:17 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 27, 2019, 09:42:15 PM
Very deflating situation for Armagh, especially as underdogs. :-\

They should still be thanking their lucky stars after the farce on Saturday.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lurganblue on March 01, 2019, 01:07:57 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on February 27, 2019, 09:54:17 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 27, 2019, 09:42:15 PM
Very deflating situation for Armagh, especially as underdogs. :-\

They should still be thanking their lucky stars after the farce on Saturday.

What went on?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 01, 2019, 07:53:27 PM
Who manages the abbey cbs brock cup team? Seen video highlights of a game against st pat maghera. Final score 2.1 abbey played 15 men inside their 45 for 50mibs. Damn disgrace
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: mrdeeds on March 01, 2019, 08:33:56 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 01, 2019, 07:53:27 PM
Who manages the abbey cbs brock cup team? Seen video highlights of a game against st pat maghera. Final score 2.1 abbey played 15 men inside their 45 for 50mibs. Damn disgrace

Was the game before 7 10 to 5 14? Some scoring.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: SCFC on March 01, 2019, 08:40:45 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 01, 2019, 07:53:27 PM
Who manages the abbey cbs brock cup team? Seen video highlights of a game against st pat maghera. Final score 2.1 abbey played 15 men inside their 45 for 50mibs. Damn disgrace
Jody Gormley being named on Twitter. Saw it. It looked atrocious.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: moysider on March 01, 2019, 09:02:18 PM
Quote from: SCFC on March 01, 2019, 08:40:45 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 01, 2019, 07:53:27 PM
Who manages the abbey cbs brock cup team? Seen video highlights of a game against st pat maghera. Final score 2.1 abbey played 15 men inside their 45 for 50mibs. Damn disgrace
Jody Gormley being named on Twitter. Saw it. It looked atrocious.

Agree. I think both teams to blame. Surely Maghera should have pressed up on them and try to turn it over instead of sitting back.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on March 01, 2019, 09:04:18 PM
Quote from: moysider on March 01, 2019, 09:02:18 PM
Quote from: SCFC on March 01, 2019, 08:40:45 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 01, 2019, 07:53:27 PM
Who manages the abbey cbs brock cup team? Seen video highlights of a game against st pat maghera. Final score 2.1 abbey played 15 men inside their 45 for 50mibs. Damn disgrace
Jody Gormley being named on Twitter. Saw it. It looked atrocious.

Agree. I think both teams to blame. Surely Maghera should have pressed up on them and try to turn it over instead of sitting back.

There's some bluffers coaching in Schools. It was very bad viewing. Looked like a dead rubber match
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: themac_23 on March 01, 2019, 09:14:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 01, 2019, 09:07:15 PM
Quote from: moysider on March 01, 2019, 09:02:18 PM
Quote from: SCFC on March 01, 2019, 08:40:45 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 01, 2019, 07:53:27 PM
Who manages the abbey cbs brock cup team? Seen video highlights of a game against st pat maghera. Final score 2.1 abbey played 15 men inside their 45 for 50mibs. Damn disgrace
Jody Gormley being named on Twitter. Saw it. It looked atrocious.

Agree. I think both teams to blame. Surely Maghera should have pressed up on them and try to turn it over instead of sitting back.
And fall right into their trap? They were winning and weren't having a glove put on them in their own half. No point in expending energy running into a 15 man blanket.

Whoever is over that Abbey team should piss off and forget about the game of football. He is not needed nor wanted. A total idiot.

No way is this the type of football we should be seeing, bad enough seeing it at county level but getting school kids to play football like that is the most depressing thing I've seen in a long long time so disappointing and someone should be looking long and hard in the mirror
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 01, 2019, 09:24:27 PM
It was Maghera with the ball and Abbey with 15 men inside their 45. Though the effort to try break this down kicking the ball around the 45 to midfield area by Maghera was poor too.!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Targetman on March 01, 2019, 09:24:50 PM
Jody Gormley is head of PE at the Abbey, the manager of the Brock team is Dan Gordon ex Down player, I wonder what Loughinisland's tactics will be this season!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Sheugh Water on March 01, 2019, 09:26:06 PM
Burst the big ball

Also ban ladies football
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Targetman on March 01, 2019, 09:34:48 PM
Someone questioned if it was a dead rubber, on the contrary the winner qualified for the semifinals!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Throw ball on March 01, 2019, 09:58:26 PM
Armagh 2.10 Omagh 5.9 tonight in MacRory Cup. Armagh played 14 inside their own half for much of first half and still conceeded 3 goals.  Both Armagh goals penalties and they missed a couple of good goal chances in second half.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on March 01, 2019, 09:58:55 PM
Quote from: Targetman on March 01, 2019, 09:24:50 PM
Jody Gormley is head of PE at the Abbey, the manager of the Brock team is Dan Gordon ex Down player, I wonder what Loughinisland's tactics will be this season!!

Dan Gordon coached that. Christ alive.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on March 01, 2019, 09:59:04 PM
Quote from: Targetman on March 01, 2019, 09:24:50 PM
Jody Gormley is head of PE at the Abbey, the manager of the Brock team is Dan Gordon ex Down player, I wonder what Loughinisland's tactics will be this season!!

I thought Down were the self anointed aristocrats of Gaelic football in the north or have Paddy Tally's tactics just filtered their way down to 14/15 year olds playing schools football.

Shameful yet not surprising and anyone blaming Maghera needs their head examined. The fact that they mucked about playing keep ball only highlighted the brainlessness and fearfulness of Abbey. The game has reached a nadir when this sort of stuff is going on. Not a bit of wonder people are walking away from the game.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on March 01, 2019, 10:46:46 PM
Dastardly Dick (Clerkin) blaming the man with the phone who took the video. The ultimate company man.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnpower on March 01, 2019, 11:23:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 01, 2019, 09:18:17 PM
Being honest, I've never seen a game at any level where one team has refused to cross their 45 for 50 minutes. It's not just bad that it is kids, it's much worse than I've ever seen.

I agree a new low .
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: stephenite on March 02, 2019, 01:51:45 AM
Those in leadership positions that are accountable for this should be ran out of the association. Memberships torn up - that's the biggest disgrace I've ever seen. Utterly shameful from Dan Gordon

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rrhf on March 02, 2019, 02:12:41 AM
The Down Way...
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: mrdeeds on March 02, 2019, 02:57:20 AM
But the game before it was 7  10  to 5 14. Negative ulster
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Aaron Boone on March 02, 2019, 05:24:03 AM
Quote from: rrhf on March 02, 2019, 02:12:41 AM
The Down Way...

Down will put Offaly to the sword this evening as a reminder of aristocratic football.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: DuffleKing on March 02, 2019, 07:12:46 AM

Half that team will be Armagh lads
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 02, 2019, 08:58:04 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 02, 2019, 07:12:46 AM

Half that team will be Armagh lads

Doing what they are told. It's a f**king disgrace. Simple as that. I am proud of my time playing schools football with the Abbey. We played great football, honest and hard. This shite is a stigma on the game and whoever coached it needs kicked in the hole and told to get out. Disgraceful
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Smurfy123 on March 02, 2019, 10:03:30 AM
Get out where broken? Relieved of all coaching duties obviously not sacked?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 02, 2019, 10:37:20 AM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on March 02, 2019, 10:03:30 AM
Get out where broken? Relieved of all coaching duties obviously not sacked?

Coaching children. IF they could be sacked that out be a bonus  ;D. Kidding of course but this is become too widespread and is damaging to the games.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on March 02, 2019, 11:12:51 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 02, 2019, 08:58:04 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 02, 2019, 07:12:46 AM

Half that team will be Armagh lads

Doing what they are told. It's a f**king disgrace. Simple as that. I am proud of my time playing schools football with the Abbey. We played great football, honest and hard. This shite is a stigma on the game and whoever coached it needs kicked in the hole and told to get out. Disgraceful
Truthfully it's shocking how our abbey teams are presently set up
Was at two Mc Rory games and definitely pewk football
Disappointed is an understatement
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: oakleafgael on March 02, 2019, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 01, 2019, 01:07:57 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on February 27, 2019, 09:54:17 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 27, 2019, 09:42:15 PM
Very deflating situation for Armagh, especially as underdogs. :-\

They should still be thanking their lucky stars after the farce on Saturday.

What went on?

Best just to say that the ref didn't have a good outing and leave it at that.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on March 02, 2019, 06:37:24 PM
That's be a cold game for the umpires - they'd get a flu with all the standing about and no flag waving!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Brick Tamlin on March 02, 2019, 06:38:42 PM
The Abbey.
Hardly surprising.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Sportacus on March 02, 2019, 08:58:18 PM
Tomás O'Se tweeted recently saying he didn't admire Fermanagh 's style of play but you have to admire them for getting the results they get.  I hate that attitude, couldn't agree with it at all - Rory Gallagher, and Jim McGuinness before him, and others, have shown coaches a template, and it's so sad to see it creeping into colleges football.  My god, I'm sure plenty of you remember the MacRory Final in 89.  How did we get to this. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: mrdeeds on March 02, 2019, 09:01:57 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 02, 2019, 08:58:18 PM
Tomás O'Se tweeted recently saying he didn't admire Fermanagh 's style of play but you have to admire them for getting the results they get.  I hate that attitude, couldn't agree with it at all - Rory Gallagher, and Jim McGuinness before him, and others, have shown coaches a template, and it's so sad to see it creeping into colleges football.  My god, I'm sure plenty of you remember the MacRory Final in 89.  How did we get to this.

Fermanagh scored 8 points from play last week in 2nd half. Very defensive alright.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Sportacus on March 02, 2019, 09:16:38 PM
Ah right, football's in great shape then.  Lowest scoring team in Division 2, there's a surprise.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: mrdeeds on March 02, 2019, 09:36:58 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 02, 2019, 09:16:38 PM
Ah right, football's in great shape then.  Lowest scoring team in Division 2, there's a surprise.

Smallest pick in Ireland and going well in 2nd tier. Seems in good shape to me.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 02, 2019, 09:46:27 PM
Has Carlow and Leitrim not smaller picks
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: mrdeeds on March 02, 2019, 09:49:33 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 02, 2019, 09:46:27 PM
Has Carlow and Leitrim not smaller picks

Smaller populations but more playing.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: FermGael on March 02, 2019, 10:07:58 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 02, 2019, 09:16:38 PM
Ah right, football's in great shape then.  Lowest scoring team in Division 2, there's a surprise.

And St Michaels in the McRory cup final as well and for the first time we have a first 15 of Fermanagh men .
Usually a few Trillick men in the team but they seem to have gone to Omagh CBS.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: armaghniac on March 02, 2019, 11:09:25 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 02, 2019, 09:49:33 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 02, 2019, 09:46:27 PM
Has Carlow and Leitrim not smaller picks

Smaller populations but more playing.

feck all DUP in Carlow and very few in Leitrim.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Godsown on March 03, 2019, 12:50:33 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 02, 2019, 11:09:25 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 02, 2019, 09:49:33 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 02, 2019, 09:46:27 PM
Has Carlow and Leitrim not smaller picks

Smaller populations but more playing.

feck all DUP in Carlow and very few in Leitrim.

Carlow may have a smaller pick but they do have the biggest p***k
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Seany on March 03, 2019, 09:38:37 AM
Pardon my possible ignorance on this, but is there not a SIgerson-like cynicism beginning to creep into schools football?  A few of the Armagh lads were originally at the Academy, but 'left after GCSE' to go to St. Pat's.  This seems to be a well worn path for good players who suddenly want to pursue a post 16 pathway that only the Armagh school can provide.  ALso - St. Michael's - do they not just Hoover up all the decent players form all the Fermanagh schools around it who don't offer A Level?  Don't think the Newry schools do it, hence their lack of success in recent years.  But I could be wrong. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 03, 2019, 09:51:21 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 02, 2019, 11:09:25 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 02, 2019, 09:49:33 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 02, 2019, 09:46:27 PM
Has Carlow and Leitrim not smaller picks

Smaller populations but more playing.

feck all DUP in Carlow and very few in Leitrim.
Leitrim as a county is split in two
its the only county that you have to leave to get into the other half

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on March 03, 2019, 10:14:03 AM
Abbey have a long history of under achieving due to negative coaching, McGuckin and Morgan used to laugh at them running up a mountain for 2 months solid without the sight of a ball. They had some seriously good teams but it was always about physical fitness and not skills development with them.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: FermGael on March 03, 2019, 11:31:21 AM
Quote from: Seany on March 03, 2019, 09:38:37 AM
Pardon my possible ignorance on this, but is there not a SIgerson-like cynicism beginning to creep into schools football?  A few of the Armagh lads were originally at the Academy, but 'left after GCSE' to go to St. Pat's.  This seems to be a well worn path for good players who suddenly want to pursue a post 16 pathway that only the Armagh school can provide.  ALso - St. Michael's - do they not just Hoover up all the decent players form all the Fermanagh schools around it who don't offer A Level?  Don't think the Newry schools do it, hence their lack of success in recent years.  But I could be wrong.

Every school in the McRory competition is doing that.
Due to their sizes they can offer more subject choice at A level.
Some of the smaller secondary schools can't offer A levels or the A levels the pupils want due to their small staff size.
Has been happening for years
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: thewobbler on March 03, 2019, 11:51:48 AM
It's always been that way. Maghera has always carried a reputation of being half tech, half grammar school.

When you're pondering why the Newry schools aren't as successful, the reality is you're pondering why St Colman's aren't as successful. The Abbey might be pure dung to watch right now, but in truth apart from one abberition in 2006, this decade's MacRory performances and finishes are par for the course

The College are now drawing from a smaller pool. The rise of St Paul's and the Lurgan schools has put a limiter on some of the most productive supply lines. The closure of the boarding school also closed the door on half a dozen plus of "distance players" each year. It's unlikely we will every see continued periods of  success for Violet Hill, unless the school actively adopts a policy of  pursuing talented Abbey-bound 10 years old.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omaghjoe on March 05, 2019, 02:21:54 AM
Quote from: Seany on March 03, 2019, 09:38:37 AM
Pardon my possible ignorance on this, but is there not a SIgerson-like cynicism beginning to creep into schools football?  A few of the Armagh lads were originally at the Academy, but 'left after GCSE' to go to St. Pat's.  This seems to be a well worn path for good players who suddenly want to pursue a post 16 pathway that only the Armagh school can provide.  ALso - St. Michael's - do they not just Hoover up all the decent players form all the Fermanagh schools around it who don't offer A Level?  Don't think the Newry schools do it, hence their lack of success in recent years.  But I could be wrong.

Wouldnt blame decent Aramgh footballer for leaving the Academy. I know one fella who was an Armagh minor but sat on the bench for the Academy MacRory team, also think it was the same story with Brendan Donaghy but could stand corrected

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on March 05, 2019, 10:01:17 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on March 05, 2019, 02:21:54 AM
Quote from: Seany on March 03, 2019, 09:38:37 AM
Pardon my possible ignorance on this, but is there not a SIgerson-like cynicism beginning to creep into schools football?  A few of the Armagh lads were originally at the Academy, but 'left after GCSE' to go to St. Pat's.  This seems to be a well worn path for good players who suddenly want to pursue a post 16 pathway that only the Armagh school can provide.  ALso - St. Michael's - do they not just Hoover up all the decent players form all the Fermanagh schools around it who don't offer A Level?  Don't think the Newry schools do it, hence their lack of success in recent years.  But I could be wrong.

Wouldnt blame decent Aramgh footballer for leaving the Academy. I know one fella who was an Armagh minor but sat on the bench for the Academy MacRory team, also think it was the same story with Brendan Donaghy but could stand corrected

Yeah Academy not great a developing footballers. Sean Cavanagh left them for example. McRory's they've won has been in spite of the management rather than because of them.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Targetman on March 05, 2019, 05:17:58 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on March 05, 2019, 12:21:47 AM
Until very recently, there was little post-16 provisions in schools in Fermanagh outside of Enniskillen. Even today I think the only school in the county outside of Enniskillen offering anything beyond GCSEs is St. Kevin's in Lisnaskea, and that's only a relatively new school formed by the merger of St. Eugene's Roslea & St. Comghall's Lisnaskea and is based on the old St. Comghall's site - and it's still a relatively small school for student numbers. St Aidan's Derrylin & St. Mary's Brollagh don't have anything post-16 and I don't think St. Mary's Irvinestown have a six form at present either. Outside of the Catholic schools system, all post-primary schools are based in Enniskillen as well. Most students living in the county go to school or FE college in it - very few if any in the Catholic sector attend schools in Tyrone though the most likely would be those around Lack, Kesh & Ederney where Omagh is nearly as close as Enniskillen - though when I was at St. John's Dromore there was an Irvinestown girl in my class and I know a couple of boys from Brookeborough who went to St. Ciaran's Ballygawley. In the controlled sector some attend Fivemiletown High School. The Further Education sector is a little different as some courses may not be available at SWC's Enniskillen campus but are at Omagh or even Dungannon. In my younger years there was very little provision for those wanting to do/study engineering in the old Fermanagh College so anyone in the county interested in such a route after GCSEs going towards third-level either did A-Levels in Enniskillen or went to do BTEC National/Level 3 in Omagh - that changed a few years ago and Enniskillen now offers a much broader engineering pathway for post-GCSE students.
How long has Kilcoo's Conor Laverty been coaching the Mac Rory panel?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: BennyHarp on March 06, 2019, 12:55:34 AM
@DanskeBank_UK  D'Alton Cup Results
@inis_col 11-4 @AcademyDgn 9-11

@stronanssport 7-14 @st_colmans 5-10

Just noticed these results from yesterday. You'd think someone would coach some defensive tactics in these schools ffs.  ;D Maybe the world hasn't fallen in completely on schools football just yet and there's still some enjoyment to be had for the players. Pity nobody had their camera phones out to capture the 32 goals scored over the two games and post them all over social media.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: The Gs Man on March 06, 2019, 11:02:36 AM
My young lad played in that St. Ronan's game.

The week before they beat Maghera 7.10 to 5.14 with a last minute goal to win it.  No sweepers, man on man and all out attack from both sides.  The young lad has came home from school ecstatic after both games.

Incidentally, that match last week directly preceded the 0.2 - 01 game with the Abbey.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 07, 2019, 11:18:00 PM
At that age group the goalkeeper barely touch the bar. Plenty of goals always scored at that age group
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rory on March 13, 2019, 04:13:05 PM
I see the U16.5 All Ireland Final involving St Colmans is down to be played at the National GAA Centre in Abbotstown.  Never been there but a quick search shows that there isn't much of a stand at it (maybe only 200 seats) and no banking around the pitch.  I know the game might only draw 6 or 700 people, but it seems like a strange venue.  Spectators will be stretched out around the fence and it won't have the atmosphere you would associate with a colleges game.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: tiempo on March 13, 2019, 04:35:16 PM
Quote from: rory on March 13, 2019, 04:13:05 PM
I see the U16.5 All Ireland Final involving St Colmans is down to be played at the National GAA Centre in Abbotstown.  Never been there but a quick search shows that there isn't much of a stand at it (maybe only 200 seats) and no banking around the pitch.  I know the game might only draw 6 or 700 people, but it seems like a strange venue.  Spectators will be stretched out around the fence and it won't have the atmosphere you would associate with a colleges game.

Aye but central coffers will get a boost. Priorities lad.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: banker on March 15, 2019, 12:24:43 PM
Quote from: rory on March 13, 2019, 04:13:05 PM
I see the U16.5 All Ireland Final involving St Colmans is down to be played at the National GAA Centre in Abbotstown.  Never been there but a quick search shows that there isn't much of a stand at it (maybe only 200 seats) and no banking around the pitch.  I know the game might only draw 6 or 700 people, but it seems like a strange venue.  Spectators will be stretched out around the fence and it won't have the atmosphere you would associate with a colleges game.

Hogan Cup semi-final was played there last year. Pretty sure it will work ok
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lurganblue on March 15, 2019, 12:37:12 PM
Quote from: banker on March 15, 2019, 12:24:43 PM
Quote from: rory on March 13, 2019, 04:13:05 PM
I see the U16.5 All Ireland Final involving St Colmans is down to be played at the National GAA Centre in Abbotstown.  Never been there but a quick search shows that there isn't much of a stand at it (maybe only 200 seats) and no banking around the pitch.  I know the game might only draw 6 or 700 people, but it seems like a strange venue.  Spectators will be stretched out around the fence and it won't have the atmosphere you would associate with a colleges game.

Hogan Cup semi-final was played there last year. Pretty sure it will work ok

Did the 2 semi's last year not get played there at the same time? Dont remember there being much of an issue.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: giveherlong on March 15, 2019, 12:38:37 PM
Any dates for hogan cup semi finals and final?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on March 18, 2019, 09:43:22 AM
Going to be a dark cloud hanging over today's MacRody final after the tradegy in Cookstown last night. No doubt many pupils from the CBS would have been there last night.

It puts things into perspective but I wonder will this go ahead?

May the victims rest in peace.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Harold Disgracey on March 18, 2019, 01:42:32 PM
He's been brilliant so far.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 18, 2019, 01:51:37 PM
Barry Cassidy has had a busy 24 hours
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lenny on March 18, 2019, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 18, 2019, 01:51:37 PM
Barry Cassidy has had a busy 24 hours

The 2 penalty decisions were terrible.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: David McKeown on March 18, 2019, 02:21:55 PM
Quote from: lenny on March 18, 2019, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 18, 2019, 01:51:37 PM
Barry Cassidy has had a busy 24 hours

The 2 penalty decisions were terrible.

Second one was a stone wall penalty for me. Far too many referees don't give it for me.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 18, 2019, 02:22:23 PM
Bullshit trying to make a game of it refereeing for that penalty
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: oakleaflad on March 18, 2019, 02:23:08 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on March 18, 2019, 02:21:55 PM
Quote from: lenny on March 18, 2019, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 18, 2019, 01:51:37 PM
Barry Cassidy has had a busy 24 hours

The 2 penalty decisions were terrible.

Second one was a stone wall penalty for me. Far too many referees don't give it for me.
Funny I thought the first one was a penalty and the second one wasn't.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: David McKeown on March 18, 2019, 02:25:10 PM
Keeper dives out feet first at a player shooting. It's the very definition of a foot block.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 18, 2019, 02:40:28 PM
Very impressive from St Michael's, some serious talent and extremely well drilled.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: David McKeown on March 18, 2019, 02:44:47 PM
Well deserved win. Very impressive team performance
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: oakleaflad on March 18, 2019, 02:51:57 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on March 18, 2019, 02:25:10 PM
Keeper dives out feet first at a player shooting. It's the very definition of a foot block.
Thought the ball was kicked at his legs as he came out myself.

Enniskillen were very well organized and very patient when needed. Their decision making was very good for lads of this age and the coaching has obviously paid off. Congrats to them
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on March 18, 2019, 03:31:29 PM
Dom Corrigan a great manager - always gets the best from his teams.  As he said afterwards, it's all about the collective.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 18, 2019, 04:52:15 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on March 15, 2019, 12:38:37 PM
Any dates for hogan cup semi finals and final?
March 27th for the semi final and April 6th for the final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: skeog on March 18, 2019, 06:24:50 PM
Collective is the word for Dominic not afraid to involve as many as possible to achieve success.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 18, 2019, 06:39:06 PM
Some good players on that st Michael's team. No. 6 probably the best, but big lad at midfield the 12.11,13 and 15 all had big games. Omaghs best lad been 13 coming off the bench. His goal was great.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: the goal was on on March 18, 2019, 07:28:20 PM
Dom not afraid to pay others you mean to do the work!! Laverty brought in on big money to take the team. Got the rewards but not a great path for schools to have to take. Money should be invested in the preserving the teaching staff as opposed to shelling out money to get others to come in and take the the teams.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: skeog on March 18, 2019, 08:06:36 PM
I am shocked that a college would be paying for outside coaches.Would Dominic be paying for it himself?.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: the goal was on on March 18, 2019, 08:10:32 PM
You serious- dom paying for it! I'm no brain surgeon but I suspect someone else footing the bill!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Targetman on March 18, 2019, 08:20:48 PM
Laverty's not travelling from Kilcoo to Enniskillen for his love of Fermanagh football, at the end of the day money talks!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: FermGael on March 18, 2019, 08:22:58 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on March 18, 2019, 07:28:20 PM
Dom not afraid to pay others you mean to do the work!! Laverty brought in on big money to take the team. Got the rewards but not a great path for schools to have to take. Money should be invested in the preserving the teaching staff as opposed to shelling out money to get others to come in and take the the teams.

If you think that Lavery is taking that team then you are sadly mistaken.
Dom is the boss. Make no mistake about that.
Alot of people like to knock Dom but his record at both club and schools level is second to none.
Every time he manages to win something it's always down to who else he has on the line. Some people don't like giving him any credit.

Great display from St Michaels. Were the better team and the scoreline flattered Omagh.
Very pleasing to see an all Fermanagh 15 playing for St Michaels . Can only be good for the future of Fermanagh Gaa.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Nanderson on March 18, 2019, 09:50:14 PM
One thing that was evident from the game today was that the barbers in Omagh and Enniskillen must have earnt a clean fortune over the weekend with all the fresh faded haircuts
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: the goal was on on March 18, 2019, 10:12:28 PM
Sadly mistaken ask anyone in the know and they'll tell you laverty Donnelly county board coaches have done all the training and coaching and dom looks after the selection side of things. Smart on his end but paying coaches for schools is a bad precedent to have started IMO
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Nanderson on March 18, 2019, 10:19:22 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on March 18, 2019, 10:12:28 PM
Sadly mistaken ask anyone in the know and they'll tell you laverty Donnelly county board coaches have done all the training and coaching and dom looks after the selection side of things. Smart on his end but paying coaches for schools is a bad precedent to have started IMO
Pretty sure Magherafelt won the MacRory a couple of years ago and they had your fella Devlin from Ballinderry in training them. As far as I know he was the 1st coach employed by a school to help improve their football at all levels
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: FermGael on March 18, 2019, 10:43:09 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on March 18, 2019, 10:12:28 PM
Sadly mistaken ask anyone in the know and they'll tell you laverty Donnelly county board coaches have done all the training and coaching and dom looks after the selection side of things. Smart on his end but paying coaches for schools is a bad precedent to have started IMO

So Dom is the manager. Thanks for clearing that up.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: the goal was on on March 18, 2019, 10:46:45 PM
Never said he wasn't !
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: FermGael on March 18, 2019, 10:56:19 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on March 18, 2019, 10:12:28 PM
Sadly mistaken ask anyone in the know and they'll tell you laverty Donnelly county board coaches have done all the training and coaching and dom looks after the selection side of things. Smart on his end but paying coaches for schools is a bad precedent to have started IMO

Coaches have been paid to go into primary schools for years.
The days of teachers taking teams solo is well and truly over.
It's getting harder and harder to get teachers to take teams for many various reasons especially at the secondary level.
Monaghan and Cavan have been sending their county development coaches into secondary schools for a number of years now and it's seen an increase in schools teams winning Ulster schools titles.
Derry have obviously being following the same model with Magherafelt and I would assume with the Derry city team that played in the MacLarnon final today. Kerry county board have also been doing it for years .
Fermanagh I assume send the county underage coaches into St Michaels as these are funded by Club Eirne and St Michaels is by far the most important school in terms of county development.
Non-issue
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Sheugh Water on March 18, 2019, 11:57:08 PM
Quote from: FermGael on March 18, 2019, 10:56:19 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on March 18, 2019, 10:12:28 PM
Sadly mistaken ask anyone in the know and they'll tell you laverty Donnelly county board coaches have done all the training and coaching and dom looks after the selection side of things. Smart on his end but paying coaches for schools is a bad precedent to have started IMO

Coaches have been paid to go into primary schools for years.
The days of teachers taking teams solo is well and truly over.
It's getting harder and harder to get teachers to take teams for many various reasons especially at the secondary level.
Monaghan and Cavan have been sending their county development coaches into secondary schools for a number of years now and it's seen an increase in schools teams winning Ulster schools titles.
Derry have obviously being following the same model with Magherafelt and I would assume with the Derry city team that played in the MacLarnon final today. Kerry county board have also been doing it for years .
Fermanagh I assume send the county underage coaches into St Michaels as these are funded by Club Eirne and St Michaels is by far the most important school in terms of county development.
Non-issue
The Derry City is led by teachers and paid gaelic games officer from council.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Main Street on March 23, 2019, 06:31:02 PM
Ballybay, Co Monaghan are the winners of the senior All Ireland Community College (Rice Cup) against Boherbue.
An incredible achievement for the college. The game went into ET and Ballybay from a position of 3 points down finished strongly to win by 2 points.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 30, 2019, 02:55:36 PM
Well done to St Michael's into the Hogan cup final after 2-13 to 1-10 win this afternoon.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: snoopdog on March 30, 2019, 05:38:02 PM
St Colmans win the Paul Mcgirr cup.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: DuffleKing on March 31, 2019, 08:58:36 AM

How do the age grades work at all Ireland level for Ulster teams? Obviously Rannafast and MacRory teams are u16.5 and u18.5 respectively
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Applesisapples on April 01, 2019, 09:34:35 AM
Quote from: snoopdog on March 30, 2019, 05:38:02 PM
St Colmans win the Paul Mcgirr cup.
An acquaintance who was at this match said the anti Northern shit coming from the fans of their opponents was horrendous and even involved the playing of GSTQ over a speaker system. The Ref had to stop the match at one stage and ask stewards to intervene. There is no place for this nonsense in sport and especially at school sports.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: maccer on April 01, 2019, 10:36:22 AM
Never happened
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Applesisapples on April 01, 2019, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: maccer on April 01, 2019, 10:36:22 AM
Never happened
Pretty sure he is telling the truth, no reason to lie.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Don Johnson on April 03, 2019, 04:45:47 PM
I heard there was a lot of abuse to the college about 'paedo priests' from the crowd and some players.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2019, 06:05:24 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 01, 2019, 09:34:35 AM
Quote from: snoopdog on March 30, 2019, 05:38:02 PM
St Colmans win the Paul Mcgirr cup.
An acquaintance who was at this match said the anti Northern shit coming from the fans of their opponents was horrendous and even involved the playing of GSTQ over a speaker system. The Ref had to stop the match at one stage and ask stewards to intervene. There is no place for this nonsense in sport and especially at school sports.

Should be in the wtf thread!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: J70 on April 04, 2019, 08:14:21 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on April 01, 2019, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: maccer on April 01, 2019, 10:36:22 AM
Never happened
Pretty sure he is telling the truth, no reason to lie.

I assumed the date of the post was a factor here
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on April 06, 2019, 03:14:00 PM
Good game here. Very hard to call a winner. St Michaels maybe getting a few referee decisions.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 06, 2019, 03:48:34 PM
St Michael's 3 ahead with about 9 minutes left.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 06, 2019, 04:05:14 PM
St Michael's 1 point winners, what a save by the keeper with a minute of normal time to go. Hogan cup winners great day for Fermanagh football.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on April 06, 2019, 04:15:01 PM
Congrats to St Michael's, cut it fine, 2 good sides.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Targetman on April 06, 2019, 04:38:33 PM
Fair play to St. Michaels, seen them beat Abbey in Mac Rory Q-final, looked a good side and got better game on game!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: skeog on April 06, 2019, 06:00:27 PM
Some achievement for St Michaels with a bit of help from Tyrone i,e, Richie Donnelly.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on April 06, 2019, 06:11:43 PM
Yes, a great result for Dom Corrigan and the lads. All Fermanagh lads also.

Goes to show what can be done in a 'lesser school'. Not being disrespectable but they've had a fantastic year.  Got stronger as the year went on. Management have got them playing a real nice brand of football.

Well done to all concerned.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 06, 2019, 08:24:57 PM
Lesser school?  how many boys in their sixth and upper sixth Yr groups
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Godsown on April 06, 2019, 09:07:05 PM
Can people not just congratulate St Michaels on a great achievement.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 06, 2019, 09:12:18 PM
Quote from: Godsown on April 06, 2019, 09:07:05 PM
Can people not just congratulate St Michaels on a great achievement.
You're new here aren't you?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Rossfan on April 06, 2019, 11:30:12 PM
Well done Ros Town CBS.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Itchy on April 06, 2019, 11:31:55 PM
Brilliant result for st Michael's and Fermanagh. Well done.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: nrico2006 on April 07, 2019, 02:40:37 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 06, 2019, 08:24:57 PM
Lesser school?  how many boys in their sixth and upper sixth Yr groups

I thought they were a big school too. They suck in all of Fermanagh too.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: FermGael on April 07, 2019, 09:16:24 AM
Fantastic result for St Michaels.
Dom has finally managed to win that elusive Hogan Cup.

Usually the school would have a few tyrone men on the team but not this year as the entire panel were from Fermanagh.

Fair play lads .  Enjoy the celebrations.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2019, 06:49:12 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on April 08, 2019, 06:45:48 PM
Maith thú Naomh Mícheál.

For the record, they've an enrolment of 670 boys at present, according to the EA website.
Decent size then  ;)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: kerryforsam19 on April 10, 2019, 04:48:08 PM
https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/297892

Very disappointing to see from from small minority of the Naas crowd.

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/297892
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LilySavage on April 10, 2019, 05:24:13 PM
Time to show Racism the Black Card  :P. Lousy form from the Naas contingent if true.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: general_lee on November 14, 2019, 07:12:33 PM
See two amalgamations in the MacRory this year. One (Cathaoir Doire) got tanked earlier by St Macartans and another (Inis Eoghain) is getting hammered by SPAD right this minute. Begs the question what is the point?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: theticklemister on November 14, 2019, 07:15:20 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 14, 2019, 07:12:33 PM
See two amalgamations in the MacRory this year. One (Cathaoir Doire) got tanked earlier by St Macartans and another (Inis Eoghain) is getting hammered by SPAD right this minute. Begs the question what is the point?

Don't start me
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: general_lee on November 14, 2019, 07:17:39 PM
Inis Eoghain just conceded 12 goals. Unless I'm missing something, they shouldn't even be in the McLarnon
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Targetman on November 14, 2019, 07:40:16 PM
FFS, a serious misjudgment by whoever is in charge of this amalgamation!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: SkillfulBill on November 14, 2019, 07:57:51 PM
12-19 is a horrible tanking but is probably reflective of SEM and SPAD drawing last week. Top place will go to score difference and unfortunately the two new comers are in a group together against schools who have been competing at this level for ever.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Schkite on November 25, 2019, 03:34:44 PM
Another awful batin in the McRory today:

The Sem 10-14 Coláistí Inis Eoghain 1-4

These games are no good for those young lads
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: J70 on November 25, 2019, 03:54:08 PM
WTF were Inis Eoghain even thinking entering that competition?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 25, 2019, 04:01:40 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 25, 2019, 03:54:08 PM
WTF were Inis Eoghain even thinking entering that competition?

Derry City Colleges and Inis Eoghain were not allowed to stay McLarnon due to amalgamation rule. They are both that standard. The Derry City project will probably end this year. College back to B. Lumen C/D, the rest not sure.

Most of the DCC mcRory team are from the college this year, they scrapped past Loreto by 1 point in group stages of McLarnon. This was aimed at likes of Ben McCarron etc from lumen(so that he could get some higher standard football). In itself a noble aim, but the footballers are not there to compete at highest level.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on November 25, 2019, 06:04:38 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 25, 2019, 04:01:40 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 25, 2019, 03:54:08 PM
WTF were Inis Eoghain even thinking entering that competition?

Derry City Colleges and Inis Eoghain were not allowed to stay McLarnon due to amalgamation rule. They are both that standard. The Derry City project will probably end this year. College back to B. Lumen C/D, the rest not sure.

Most of the DCC mcRory team are from the college this year, they scrapped past Loreto by 1 point in group stages of McLarnon. This was aimed at likes of Ben McCarron etc from lumen(so that he could get some higher standard football). In itself a noble aim, but the footballers are not there to compete at highest level.

Turning out a bit like An Dún in the Mageean competition.  They've been 'barred' as people say they're too strong - valid point but not helping hurling in the 6 counties.

Even at club level, I see a lot of amalgations happening especially at minor level.  Cavan is a prime example but no exclusive to Cavan.  I think population decline could be a big problem for the GAA over the next 10 years - some clubs will fold unfortunately but it'll be a huge issue in rural clubs.

In fairness, I think the Ulster Colleges Council do a great job in promoting schools' games. Seamus Mc Aleenan is a superstar in his coverage down through the years - others also.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: FermGael on November 27, 2019, 11:54:21 AM
So next years Under 20 Championship is being played across February and March.
How is this going to fit in with McRory and McLarnon fixtures?
With the recent change in underage rules for schools teams this will mean that lads could be on their schools team and their county team U-20 team. Absolute madness. 
The lads at the top really are just paying lip service to everything outside the Super 8.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: general_lee on November 27, 2019, 05:50:01 PM
Realistically how many players is that going to impact on?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lenny on November 27, 2019, 05:53:51 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 27, 2019, 05:50:01 PM
Realistically how many players is that going to impact on?

A lot I'd say.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on November 27, 2019, 06:01:18 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 27, 2019, 05:53:51 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 27, 2019, 05:50:01 PM
Realistically how many players is that going to impact on?

A lot I'd say.

Yeah, there could be a good bit of crossover and it'd be hard for teams not to play without their players. 

It really takes very little for teams to say they're not playing as certain players are not available - just look at club teams with one or two county lads and the 'starred' games situstion in every county.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: FermGael on November 27, 2019, 07:35:19 PM
St Michaels.Mcrory team from St Patrick's day 2019:
S McNally; L Flanagan, G Cavanagh, J Horan; A O Cathain, L Largo-Ellis (0-1), R McHugh; B Horan, J McDade; C Duffy, M Glynn (0-4, 0-1 penalty), D MacBrien (0-8, 0-2 frees); P McKervey, (0-1), C Love (0-1), T Keenan

Fermanagh under 20 team from round 1 Ulster championship 2019
Fermanagh: Cian Newman; Eoin Shiels, Johny Cassidy, Fergal Keenan; Ultan Kelm (0-1), Josh Largo Ellis, Ryan Breen; Eoin Beacom (0-2), Brandon Horan Cameron McBrien (0-1),Callum Jones (0-3), Dara MacBrien; Lorcan McStravick (0-1) Sean Cassidy (0-1),Darragh McGurn (0-21f).

Subs; Conor Love (0-2), for Lorcan McStravick (21 inj), Paul Breen for Ultan Kelm (inj 36), Liam Owen for Cameron McBrien (39), John Reihill for Dara McBrien (63).

Lads in Italics wouldn't be able to play as they would have been playing for Fermanagh seniors as they are scheduled now to play under 20s and national League fixtures on the same weekend
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: FermGael on January 23, 2020, 09:41:16 AM
Another fine mess, brought to you by Central council and the Gaa.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/se%C3%A1n-moran-total-disregard-for-schools-as-gaa-votes-one-way-and-acts-in-another-1.4147154 (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/se%C3%A1n-moran-total-disregard-for-schools-as-gaa-votes-one-way-and-acts-in-another-1.4147154)



Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: redzone on February 19, 2020, 09:36:10 PM
Anyone at any of the 1/4 games.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: PMG1 on February 20, 2020, 03:55:43 AM
Quote from: redzone on February 19, 2020, 09:36:10 PM
Anyone at any of the 1/4 games.
Was at the omagh v Armagh game today, atrocious conditions, should never have been played. Omagh by far the better team but tactics once again very questionable. Big McGleenan excellent for Armagh, virtually carried them but Omagh left same man on him the whole second half which was idiotic. Some bad decisions up front and a very poor goalkeeping mistake cost them also, but to be honest I can't see either of them being real contenders.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 26, 2020, 11:28:44 AM
Is the McRory final going ahead this year?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on September 26, 2020, 11:36:54 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 26, 2020, 11:28:44 AM
Is the McRory final going ahead this year?

Good question.

I thought, when lock down came in, that they talked about playing it in September.

It'll hardly be played now.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: passedit on September 26, 2020, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: marty34 on September 26, 2020, 11:36:54 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 26, 2020, 11:28:44 AM
Is the McRory final going ahead this year?

Good question.

I thought, when lock down came in, that they talked about playing it in September.

It'll hardly be played now.

Mc larnon is in two weeks. Assume it's a double bill with McRory
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: twohands!!! on September 29, 2020, 03:56:48 PM
Very sore dose for the young lads involved.

(https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1310892475293356033/photo/1)

https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1310892475293356033/photo/1

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2020, 12:28:44 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on September 29, 2020, 03:56:48 PM
Very sore dose for the young lads involved.

(https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1310892475293356033/photo/1)

https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1310892475293356033/photo/1

That's just madness! Kids are at school training away in their bubbles and how much would it be to the schools to arrange testing leading up to these very important games in their young lives?!!!

My daughter is training away with school, I dropped her off at Jstown last night and there was a senior hockey game on one pitch a rugby game on the other and I presume the Antrim hurlers were training away on the top pitch!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on September 30, 2020, 04:10:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2020, 12:28:44 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on September 29, 2020, 03:56:48 PM
Very sore dose for the young lads involved.

(https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1310892475293356033/photo/1)

https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1310892475293356033/photo/1

That's just madness! Kids are at school training away in their bubbles and how much would it be to the schools to arrange testing leading up to these very important games in their young lives?!!!

My daughter is training away with school, I dropped her off at Jstown last night and there was a senior hockey game on one pitch a rugby game on the other and I presume the Antrim hurlers were training away on the top pitch!

But are most of these players not at university now?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rodney trotter on September 30, 2020, 04:46:34 PM
The Leinster schools final was in July. There wasn't much point arranging it for September when a lot of them would be in College.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2020, 09:07:03 PM
Quote from: marty34 on September 30, 2020, 04:10:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2020, 12:28:44 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on September 29, 2020, 03:56:48 PM
Very sore dose for the young lads involved.

(https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1310892475293356033/photo/1)

https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1310892475293356033/photo/1

That's just madness! Kids are at school training away in their bubbles and how much would it be to the schools to arrange testing leading up to these very important games in their young lives?!!!

My daughter is training away with school, I dropped her off at Jstown last night and there was a senior hockey game on one pitch a rugby game on the other and I presume the Antrim hurlers were training away on the top pitch!

But are most of these players not at university now?

I suppose, but still eligible due to the postponement surely?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 30, 2020, 09:56:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 30, 2020, 09:17:49 PM
I'm not sure eligibility is his point. Have these school teams continued to train? Were lads at university across England, Scotland etc expected to fly back in the middle of a pandemic to play these games, for schools they no longer go to?
Was there really appetite for this? I know it's a big deal for young lads but surely the whole taste had gone off it long ago.

However, had Ulster Colleges sold tickets for it....?

I was waiting on a call up for the game  ;D

Yes get your point totally, but not playing it due to possible Covid reasons shouldn't be the answer as games have happened and these lads probably would have played for their own clubs too recently
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Truth hurts on November 03, 2021, 01:45:41 PM
ARe there any games coming up in football competitions, where can you find fixtures?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2021, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 03, 2021, 01:45:41 PM
ARe there any games coming up in football competitions, where can you find fixtures?

Think there is a small period of time, certainly for the uni's, I've done a few games recently at UUJ. the freshers were put out by DCU the other night.

Would only imagine the schools are doing the same, cramming it in, games to be played to finish extra time of ten minutes then penalties, just in case anyone is unsure  ;)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnnycool on November 03, 2021, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2021, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 03, 2021, 01:45:41 PM
ARe there any games coming up in football competitions, where can you find fixtures?

Think there is a small period of time, certainly for the uni's, I've done a few games recently at UUJ. the freshers were put out by DCU the other night.

Would only imagine the schools are doing the same, cramming it in, games to be played to finish extra time of ten minutes then penalties, just in case anyone is unsure  ;)

Must be a few Mageean Cup Hurling games on this week.. Struggling to get an U17 team together for tonight.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Tyrdub on November 03, 2021, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 03, 2021, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2021, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 03, 2021, 01:45:41 PM
ARe there any games coming up in football competitions, where can you find fixtures?

Think there is a small period of time, certainly for the uni's, I've done a few games recently at UUJ. the freshers were put out by DCU the other night.

Would only imagine the schools are doing the same, cramming it in, games to be played to finish extra time of ten minutes then penalties, just in case anyone is unsure  ;)

Must be a few Mageean Cup Hurling games on this week.. Struggling to get an U17 team together for tonight.

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Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnnycool on November 05, 2021, 11:30:46 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on November 03, 2021, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 03, 2021, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2021, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 03, 2021, 01:45:41 PM
ARe there any games coming up in football competitions, where can you find fixtures?

Think there is a small period of time, certainly for the uni's, I've done a few games recently at UUJ. the freshers were put out by DCU the other night.

Would only imagine the schools are doing the same, cramming it in, games to be played to finish extra time of ten minutes then penalties, just in case anyone is unsure  ;)

Must be a few Mageean Cup Hurling games on this week.. Struggling to get an U17 team together for tonight.

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Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2021, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 05, 2021, 11:30:46 AM
Quote from: Tyrdub on November 03, 2021, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 03, 2021, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2021, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 03, 2021, 01:45:41 PM
ARe there any games coming up in football competitions, where can you find fixtures?

Think there is a small period of time, certainly for the uni's, I've done a few games recently at UUJ. the freshers were put out by DCU the other night.

Would only imagine the schools are doing the same, cramming it in, games to be played to finish extra time of ten minutes then penalties, just in case anyone is unsure  ;)

Must be a few Mageean Cup Hurling games on this week.. Struggling to get an U17 team together for tonight.

3 games on tomorrow


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Red High had it tight with a win over St Pats Maghera. They've Knock up next and we've lads on both teams who won't go easy on each other...

Loved playing against club mates in school games!! I did not go easy either lol
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2021, 11:49:09 AM
Is this red high's first year JC?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on February 13, 2022, 02:38:42 PM
Good start from the Convent in the MacRory Final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 13, 2022, 04:26:23 PM
Quote from: Estimator on February 13, 2022, 02:38:42 PM
Good start from the Convent in the MacRory Final.

Was the difference on the end, that great start
Some fine players there
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on February 13, 2022, 04:43:46 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 13, 2022, 04:26:23 PM
Quote from: Estimator on February 13, 2022, 02:38:42 PM
Good start from the Convent in the MacRory Final.

Was the difference on the end, that great start
Some fine players there

The two AI Minor winners - McEvoy and O'Donnell certainly made a difference. By the sounds of it they'll be hard to beat next year again.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: OakLeaf on February 13, 2022, 05:03:53 PM
Very strong side. McEvoy won't be long until he's at no. 6 for Doire.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JoG2 on February 13, 2022, 05:09:58 PM
Speaking to a man during the week, his young lad is down with the Derry minors, says this years squad is very strong, with a good smattering available for next year too.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: barelegs on February 13, 2022, 06:15:10 PM
I saw a post from St Joseph's in Coalisland a few weeks ago that said 12 of the Holy Trinity squad were past pupils. I'm near sure that included Ruairi McHugh in midfield.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: NotedObserver on February 13, 2022, 09:04:31 PM
Terry Devlin a serious player for being part time really. Likely to have soccer career ahead of him
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Box to Box on February 14, 2022, 12:13:13 PM
Well done St. Marys.

Alot of divided loyalties up our way with lads going to both schools.

Can only be good for football in the area.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Will it ever end on February 14, 2022, 01:28:29 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on February 13, 2022, 05:03:53 PM
Very strong side. McEvoy won't be long until he's at no. 6 for Doire.

Steady on Oakleaf
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: RedHand88 on February 14, 2022, 01:44:44 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on February 13, 2022, 05:03:53 PM
Very strong side. McEvoy won't be long until he's at no. 6 for Doire.

Do you reckon, Mr McEvoy?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Silver hill on February 15, 2022, 10:15:56 PM
Glad Magherafelt won. Canavan has a job to do but when you recruit a player who attends the school one day per week and the rest of the time he's at the tech, where do it become credible?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 16, 2022, 01:10:08 AM
The tech not play vocational schools fball? Think they played some form of competition yrs ago.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: clubman21 on February 16, 2022, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on February 15, 2022, 10:15:56 PM
Glad Magherafelt won. Canavan has a job to do but when you recruit a player who attends the school one day per week and the rest of the time he's at the tech, where do it become credible?
Just isn't true, but do ellaborate please.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 16, 2022, 08:59:32 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on February 15, 2022, 10:15:56 PM
Glad Magherafelt won. Canavan has a job to do but when you recruit a player who attends the school one day per week and the rest of the time he's at the tech, where do it become credible?

The convent would have students attending A Level engineering at the tech.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 16, 2022, 09:01:51 PM
Put they still at the convent, as the tech offers careers the convent don't,
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 16, 2022, 09:12:09 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 16, 2022, 09:01:51 PM
Put they still at the convent, as the tech offers careers the convent don't,

Mid-week drinking should be discouraged.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JoG2 on February 16, 2022, 10:07:04 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 16, 2022, 09:12:09 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 16, 2022, 09:01:51 PM
Put they still at the convent, as the tech offers careers the convent don't,

Mid-week drinking should be discouraged.

The odd mid-week suppage is fine! But, as dad of a young lad, I hear what WW74 is saying. Definitely worth thinking about as a degree these days, with all the debt accrued v a good trade is a conversation worth having
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 17, 2022, 09:54:46 AM
I was at the Convent and tech at the same time early 90's one of the first, Not too many A-Levels at the time suited for Architecture whereas the Techs had Tech Drawing. Went a different route at the finish.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on February 17, 2022, 10:23:28 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 16, 2022, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 16, 2022, 01:10:08 AM
The tech not play vocational schools fball? Think they played some form of competition yrs ago.

Some FE colleges in d'north used to participate in the Markey & Ward Cups in the former Vocational Schools competitions. East Tyrone (now SWC Dungannon) used to be a big powerhouse in the late 80's & early 90's winning five All-Ireland titles during this period, Newry College (Now SRC Newry) also won one or two Markey cups IIRC, last reaching a final in the mid 00's, while Fermanagh College (SWC Enniskillen) won Ulster in 1996 (I think) & reached the All-Ireland final. Omagh College (SWC Omagh) reached the 2001 Markey Cup final, losing out to St. Ciaran's Ballygawley. More recently NRC Magherafelt reached the Ward Cup final (at that point the Vocational Schools U18 "B" competition) in 2014.

ATM however the seems to be a dearth of FE college teams playing schools football in Ulster, probably down to many of the schools that used to be in the VS setup now offering their own post-16 courses whereas in the past many such students that left after their GCSEs would have went on to an FE college if they didn't go to a local Grammar School instead to do A-Levels. For example the Omagh College side mentioned above were backboned by a number of players from St. John's Dromore that won the Arthurs Cup two years previously.
I've a lad at Magee and they played SRC in Div 3 of Uni - Corn na Mac Leinn. Think NRC have had teams in previous years.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Kickham csc on February 17, 2022, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 17, 2022, 09:54:46 AM
I was at the Convent and tech at the same time early 90's one of the first, Not too many A-Levels at the time suited for Architecture whereas the Techs had Tech Drawing. When a different route at the finish.

Should have transferred to St Pats, we had an A level Tech Drwing
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on February 26, 2022, 05:53:39 PM
Huge win for Naas CBS over Jarlaths in the Hogan semi final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2022, 08:14:03 PM
Convent made a.mess of the last 3 kick outs.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2022, 08:24:01 PM
Were they beat? Can't find the result.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2022, 08:26:30 PM
Point up in Injury time, Kerry team scored 3 times from each resulting kickout. Nobody can hit the selfdestruct button like the convent over the years.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on February 26, 2022, 08:27:06 PM
Why did they take them to the Connacht centre of excellence and the play outside in a Gale?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Jimmy on February 26, 2022, 09:12:11 PM
Congress was actually held in the dome today.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on February 26, 2022, 09:17:26 PM
Good enough reason then!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on February 26, 2022, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2022, 08:26:30 PM
Point up in Injury time, Kerry team scored 3 times from each resulting kickout. Nobody can hit the selfdestruct button like the convent over the years.
The Convent were under serious pressure for the last 10mins. Couldn't get the ball out of their half. With the wind behind them, Brendan's hemmed the Convent in on the kick out. There wasn't a handy out for the Convent. Think Brendan's kicked 4 wides in a row before they hit the three points in a row to win it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 17, 2022, 03:21:49 PM
Don't see a Hogan cup thread, so I drop it under this. All that attacking football, wish it was like this all the time. poor lads in for a reality check in years to come in the world of defensive fball for those who make it to county senior. First time a Kildare school won Hogan Cup?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: twohands!!! on March 17, 2022, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 17, 2022, 03:21:49 PM
Don't see a Hogan cup thread, so I drop it under this. All that attacking football, wish it was like this all the time. poor lads in for a reality check in years to come in the world of defensive fball for those who make it to county senior. First time a Kildare school won Hogan Cup?

Yup - first time a Kildare school won Hogan Cup.

Good game of ball - the gap Naas opened up at the end of the 1st half was key. Brendans pushed them all the way in the second half but Naas held them off to get the win.

Some great scores on both sides.


Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Blowitupref on March 17, 2022, 04:58:40 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 17, 2022, 03:21:49 PM
Don't see a Hogan cup thread, so I drop it under this. All that attacking football, wish it was like this all the time. poor lads in for a reality check in years to come in the world of defensive fball for those who make it to county senior. First time a Kildare school won Hogan Cup?

Not much in the way of tactics, young lads let out to express themselves. First win for Kildare school and its a decade since a Leinster school won it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 05, 2022, 06:21:44 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on July 05, 2022, 04:59:25 PM
I see Dominic Corrigan has retired from St. Michael's College Enniskillen. It'll be interesting to see how the void with him gone will be filled as his influence at the school for the last several decades has been immense.

https://fermanaghherald.com/2022/07/video-happy-retirement-dom/


Some man! Challenged the major powers and got his coveted Hogan title. When Adrian McGuckin retired from Maghera and Pete McGrath from Colmans there was a lengthy downturn in trophies.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Brick Tamlin on July 05, 2022, 11:38:25 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 05, 2022, 06:21:44 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on July 05, 2022, 04:59:25 PM
I see Dominic Corrigan has retired from St. Michael's College Enniskillen. It'll be interesting to see how the void with him gone will be filled as his influence at the school for the last several decades has been immense.

https://fermanaghherald.com/2022/07/video-happy-retirement-dom/


Some man! Challenged the major powers and got his coveted Hogan title. When Adrian McGuckin retired from Maghera and Pete mc Grath Ray Morgan from Colmans there was a lengthy downturn in trophies.

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Truth hurts on October 10, 2022, 03:51:09 PM
Is there any site that does up to date fixtures, Ulster colleges website is away to the dogs
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2022, 09:12:42 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 10, 2022, 03:51:09 PM
Is there any site that does up to date fixtures, Ulster colleges website is away to the dogs
Ulster college GAA on fb generally has loads on it
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnnycool on October 11, 2022, 08:16:59 AM
Red High, reigning Mageean cup champions beaten yesterday by St Mary's CBGS by 5 points in the first game.



Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2022, 08:44:00 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 11, 2022, 08:16:59 AM
Red High, reigning Mageean cup champions beaten yesterday by St Mary's CBGS by 5 points in the first game.

Thats the thing about college games, a school could have a very strong upper 6th team and no younger kids coming through, once they are gone that's that!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Truth hurts on October 11, 2022, 09:41:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2022, 09:12:42 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 10, 2022, 03:51:09 PM
Is there any site that does up to date fixtures, Ulster colleges website is away to the dogs
Ulster college GAA on fb generally has loads on it

I have looked there and cannot see any fixtures. When does the McRory and Rannafst start? ANy fixtures around Down or Belfast this weekend does anyone know?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 11, 2022, 10:13:35 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 11, 2022, 09:41:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2022, 09:12:42 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 10, 2022, 03:51:09 PM
Is there any site that does up to date fixtures, Ulster colleges website is away to the dogs
Ulster college GAA on fb generally has loads on it

I have looked there and cannot see any fixtures. When does the McRory and Rannafst start? ANy fixtures around Down or Belfast this weekend does anyone know?

MACLARNON CUP 🏐🏆
Twelve schools went into the Danske Bank MacLarnon Cup for the draw for the pre-Christmas group stages that start during the first week of November and will be completed by Wednesday 14th December.
The teams finishing in fourth place in each of the three sections will be eliminated, while a fourth team will also drop out before Christmas with a play-off between the third placed teams in Section B and C.
2019 champions St Patrick's Downpatrick hosted the event yesterday and were drawn against Rathmore Grammar, St Louis Ballymena and Loreto Milford. Downpatrick reached the semi-finals last year before being ousted by Our Lady's Castleblayney.
Head of PE in the school Darren Swail felt that there was a feel of familiarity about their group.
"We would have played against St Louis and Rathmore regularly through the year groups as well as at MacLarnon level and we actually beat Loreto Milford in the knock-out stages just before Covid.
"It is hard to say who will be the teams to beat at this level especially with no games two years ago because Covid wiped them out. Everyone will be watching each other's results I would think and working out who are emerging as front runners," he predicted.
The winner of the play-off game just before Christmas will face the team that tops Group A in the quarter-finals in the first week back to school in early January. The semi-finals are scheduled for the weekend of Friday 20th – Sunday 22nd January.
Oonagh Murtagh, Head of South Business Centre with Danske Bank helped Jimmy Smyth, Chairperson of Ulster Schools' GAA make the various draws.
"We in Danske Bank are very pleased to continue our involvement with Ulster Schools' GAA. The provincial Schools' Council now caters for 125 schools and we are here in the Red High to launch the three signature competitions, the Danske Bank MacRory, MacLarnon and Mageean Cups as well as 59 other competitions in hurling and football which will involve thousands of young boys over the school year just started.
"We in Danske Bank know the benefits of sport in the community and we are pleased to get involved in the schools who operate at all levels in Ulster GAA"
Jimmy Smyth added:
"We came to the Red High here to launch our competitions as this school won their first ever Danske Bank Mageean Cup last December and we have witnessed the joy that has brought to the school and the area over the last nine months.
"There are now over 60 schools fielding in hurling and that is a tremendous growth over the past couple of decades. It comes as a result of hard work in the clubs and through initiatives like the Tain Óg Hurling Leagues that runs through the summer.
"We are pleased to support the schools to develop that interest in hurling and look forward to presenting cups to other first time winners at all levels."
Ulster Schools' GAA games will begin during the first week of October with U13.5 Hurling, with U16.5 Football hitting the road a week later.

There was also a image should the groups for the MacRory cup .. No dates though but I wouldn't imagine that be difficult to find, If I was retired I'd have a serious amount of school games to cover, there is always something on
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on October 12, 2022, 07:50:53 PM
MacRory Cup

Section A
Cavan, Letterkenny, Omagh & Enniskillen

Section B
St Ronans, Carrickmacross, St Macartans & Abbey

Section C
St Pats Armagh, Cookstown, St Mary's Magherafelt & St Pats Dungannon

Section D
Colmans, Maghera & Blayney

League Matches W/C 7th, 21st November & 5th December

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Truth hurts on November 02, 2022, 03:54:26 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 12, 2022, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2022, 09:12:42 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 10, 2022, 03:51:09 PM
Is there any site that does up to date fixtures, Ulster colleges website is away to the dogs
Ulster college GAA on fb generally has loads on it

Their Instagram page is also fairly up-to-date with things as well. However for fixture lists it's tricky to get them, especially with most schools arranging dates/times to suit themselves. I don't think they're published into the GAA GMS either.

Seems that schools are really suspicious of being watched by other teams and wait to the last minute to tell venues to kids and parents.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: TwoUpTwoDown on November 15, 2022, 08:40:02 PM
They could really do with having an updated fixture list. I mainly follow their Twitter and it just appears to highlight random games. How are gradings determined at Ulster College level? I see the Dean had a huge win last night and surely would be better placed a level up? Along with likes of St Ciarans?

Are SEM no longer the powerhouse in Monaghan? Carrickmacross had a huge win today against St Ronans who are normally fancied?

Are there any Donegal schools who are at much of a level? Surely there has to be football there considering they have been strong at county level for a good few years? Milford had a good win against Downpatrick I see but on flipside Glenties got bad beating.

Is there no football in Coleraine at all? I seen on Teamtalk they had a bad beating to Holy Cross Strabane who I assumed would be very weak? And they are playing in Markey level which is grade C/D?

Overall to touch on an earlier point, if there were a masters fixture list I think some of these games would attract decent viewers for people with spare time. Surely could be promoted better?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: smort on November 15, 2022, 08:59:30 PM
Couldn't agree more  TwoUpTwoDown. Follow Ulster colleges on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram and it does seem to promote random games. They also then have a lot of results and pictures of other games post match.
My current job would allow me time in the middle of the day to attend some local macrory or rannafast games, but never know when they are on
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: smort on November 15, 2022, 09:42:38 PM
Thought it may have been a safeguarding issue or something
May just keep the ear close to the ground, will check the local schools social accounts, they might post fixtures themselves. It would be nice to see some of the youth from my own, and other local, clubs playing at this level. Would also be great to get a first glimpse of the next great thing
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: smort on November 16, 2022, 06:43:19 AM
To be fair they do seem to be publishing the macrory fixtures ahead of time. Well, a day ahead just
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Truth hurts on November 16, 2022, 09:25:41 AM
I wish the games would revert back to Saturdays at 11am but i suppose a lot going on now.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2022, 09:29:16 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 16, 2022, 09:25:41 AM
I wish the games would revert back to Saturdays at 11am but i suppose a lot going on now.

Yeah those times really brought out the neutrals, it's also very difficult to arrange the referee's around the current days/times, at the weekend you could have the umpires and linesmen available, now you are lucky to get anyone to help
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Armagh18 on November 16, 2022, 09:43:00 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on November 16, 2022, 09:25:41 AM
I wish the games would revert back to Saturdays at 11am but i suppose a lot going on now.
Would most 16/17/18 year olds not work on Saturdays??
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: thewobbler on November 16, 2022, 09:45:54 AM
Group stage games were rarely at 11am on a Saturday.

There's likely well over 150 fixtures to be fulfilled some weeks, across the various codes, various levels and various levels.

That's no easy task.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Truth hurts on January 03, 2023, 08:52:06 AM
St Colmans V the Abbey on Thursday at 1pm when people are back at work. Surely this should be under the lights of Esler to attract a big crowd.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on January 13, 2023, 10:43:36 PM
Big wins for Omagh and Cookstown tonight. HTC were dogged.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: screenexile on January 13, 2023, 10:51:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 13, 2023, 10:43:36 PM
Big wins for Omagh and Cookstown tonight. HTC were dogged.

Is there not a bit of controversy about HTC??
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on January 13, 2023, 10:51:52 PM
What is it?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on January 13, 2023, 10:55:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 13, 2023, 10:51:52 PM
What is it?

Quote from: ClubScene13 on January 13, 2023, 05:59:49 PM
Quote from: Link on January 13, 2023, 05:32:39 PM
A few lads overage that have already completed year 14 and word of others doing a 2 day week in school? Surely not

It's the lads that have completed year 14 that are doing the 2 day school week. Work experience the other 3 days. It's definitely wrong and I assume the lads could be 19 by now. I don't know how many are at it but I know of at least 3 starting tonight, could be more, might not be.

You'd imagine the Academy / Maghera / Convent wouldn't be happy about this but they seem to be getting away with it for now.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on January 13, 2023, 10:59:16 PM
Sure for decades, all the major GAA schools in the competition allowed lads who bombed at GCSE/O'Level to stay on and introduced all manner of qualifications to enable them to play MacRory. Or enticed them from secondaries across the road for the same reason.

Isn't there an age cut-off anyway?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on January 13, 2023, 11:30:12 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 13, 2023, 10:59:16 PM
Sure for decades, all the major GAA schools in the competition allowed lads who bombed at GCSE/O'Level to stay on and introduced all manner of qualifications to enable them to play MacRory. Or enticed them from secondaries across the road for the same reason.

Isn't there an age cut-off anyway?
That's very true, but that was more about keeping students good footballers on at the same school after their GCSEs, or moving them across at that point, not enticing them in after they've completed 7 years in a different school altogether.

MacRory is now U-19. I believe it used to be U-18.5 and there was a time where MacRory winning teams would've lost players for the Hogan as it was U-18
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on January 13, 2023, 11:48:54 PM
Had a look there at HTC's squad last year in the final and this year's team today. I can only see 2 new names who may have come from 5th year, I dunno.

Who completed 7 years in another school and was enticed?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: thewobbler on January 14, 2023, 12:01:05 AM
Sometimes you have to be careful for what you wish for in sport.

Abbey CBS led the charge back in 1996 to extend the eligibility age, when one of the McEntees was resitting upper 6th.

The unintended consequence of this is that "8th years" are more likely to turn up at schools with a technical / vocational bent.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: TwoUpTwoDown on January 14, 2023, 01:25:40 AM
Quote from: the_daddy on January 14, 2023, 12:21:48 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 13, 2023, 11:48:54 PM
Had a look there at HTC's squad last year in the final and this year's team today. I can only see 2 new names who may have come from 5th year, I dunno.

Who completed 7 years in another school and was enticed?
Devlin the elder.

One of the lads in work today was saying that 3 of those HTC players are receiving financial incentives to entice them back. That surely cannot be true?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bannside on January 14, 2023, 09:06:39 AM
https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1614042906213613569?t=Cu9S5bpydIxLeT_AyMBw4Q&s=08

Some comeback to be fair. They don't come much sweeter for the winners (or devastating for the losers) than this!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Link on January 14, 2023, 09:08:03 AM
19 year olds shouldn't be playing macrory. End of.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: WT4E on January 14, 2023, 09:20:03 AM
Quote from: bannside on January 14, 2023, 09:06:39 AM
https://twitter.com/ulsterschools/status/1614042906213613569?t=Cu9S5bpydIxLeT_AyMBw4Q&s=08

Some comeback to be fair. They don't come much sweeter for the winners (or devastating for the losers) than this!

Jesus that was absolutely awful from Maghera..... so many errors in a min it's ti know where to start.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: J70 on January 14, 2023, 10:22:23 AM
Quote from: Link on January 14, 2023, 09:08:03 AM
19 year olds shouldn't be playing macrory. End of.

I started my third year of university when I was 19.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Armagh18 on January 14, 2023, 10:42:29 AM
Quote from: Estimator on January 13, 2023, 11:30:12 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 13, 2023, 10:59:16 PM
Sure for decades, all the major GAA schools in the competition allowed lads who bombed at GCSE/O'Level to stay on and introduced all manner of qualifications to enable them to play MacRory. Or enticed them from secondaries across the road for the same reason.

Isn't there an age cut-off anyway?
That's very true, but that was more about keeping students good footballers on at the same school after their GCSEs, or moving them across at that point, not enticing them in after they've completed 7 years in a different school altogether.

MacRory is now U-19. I believe it used to be U-18.5 and there was a time where MacRory winning teams would've lost players for the Hogan as it was U-18
Was hogan ever u18? Always thought the school year in the south works off the calendar year so was always u19
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: thewobbler on January 14, 2023, 12:11:51 PM
Hogan was u18 until around 2000. It's now u18.5 I believe.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: WT4E on January 14, 2023, 12:18:27 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 14, 2023, 12:11:51 PM
Hogan was u18 until around 2000. It's now u18.5 I believe.

I think Dungannon academy won it in 1997 with some lads that would not have been u18? Conal Martin or ja quinn maybe?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: thewobbler on January 14, 2023, 12:26:51 PM
Actually the change might have went through in 1996 along with the MacRory moving to u19.

I know Sean Marty Lockhart was winning MacRory captain in 95, but wasn't eligible for Hogan.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: square_ball on January 14, 2023, 01:05:44 PM
Quote from: WT4E on January 14, 2023, 12:18:27 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 14, 2023, 12:11:51 PM
Hogan was u18 until around 2000. It's now u18.5 I believe.

I think Dungannon academy won it in 1997 with some lads that would not have been u18? Conal Martin or ja quinn maybe?

Majority of that team from memory would not have been u18 at that time so the rule must have been changed a short time before that year. Only the likes of McGuigan, Thornton and Gourley started for Tyrone minors in 1997. Maybe a few others in the squad.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 14, 2023, 03:30:32 PM
Macrory Cup Upper sixth Limit was 18 and a half, ie. The full upper sixth term. Hogan cup cut off was 18yrs as they do a year less down south, so technically the oldest was, 17yrs and a half. When did it extend to 19? There should be no extension. By the old year seven (now 14). Anybody after that should be inadmissible.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on January 14, 2023, 04:13:05 PM
Patrician beat St Mary's with a goal in second period of extra time. Semi finals as follows:

Omagh CBS v Patrician
Dungannon/St Macartans v HTC
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on January 14, 2023, 04:21:05 PM
Didn't see that coming.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2023, 09:09:40 PM
Big win for St Joe's Donaghmore in the McLarnon.

Not too distant future could see Cookstown, Dungannon, Omagh and Donaghmore competing in the A grade. Possibly Ballygawley too.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: pbat on February 10, 2023, 09:18:18 PM
Why was the MacRory final moved from Patrick's day?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2023, 09:29:51 PM
Too many of the players were already booked to do rock-the-boat in the Holylands.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: thewobbler on February 10, 2023, 10:05:12 PM
Quote from: pbat on February 10, 2023, 09:18:18 PM
Why was the MacRory final moved from Patrick's day?

Split season means county have first dibs on players in spring, so schools comps were brought forward
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on February 10, 2023, 10:20:25 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 10, 2023, 09:09:40 PM
Big win for St Joe's Donaghmore in the McLarnon.

Not too distant future could see Cookstown, Dungannon, Omagh and Donaghmore competing in the A grade. Possibly Ballygawley too.

Some year for Tyrone schools winning the ulster A, B and C grade competitions.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LeoMc on February 10, 2023, 10:53:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 10, 2023, 09:09:40 PM
Big win for St Joe's Donaghmore in the McLarnon.

Not too distant future could see Cookstown, Dungannon, Omagh and Donaghmore competing in the A grade. Possibly Ballygawley too.
What about the Dean?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: redzone on February 10, 2023, 10:55:22 PM
Have the CBS taking their eye of the ball. Players seem to have spent the week doing publicity photos. Be interesting to see how it plays out on Sunday
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on February 11, 2023, 11:46:12 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 10, 2023, 09:09:40 PM
Big win for St Joe's Donaghmore in the McLarnon.

Not too distant future could see Cookstown, Dungannon, Omagh and Donaghmore competing in the A grade. Possibly Ballygawley too.

Would Donaghmore and Ballygawley have the numbers to play consistently at that level? Or would they be like Kilkeel a couple of great year groups and then fade back a bit?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Armagh18 on February 11, 2023, 12:24:40 PM
Quote from: redzone on February 10, 2023, 10:55:22 PM
Have the CBS taking their eye of the ball. Players seem to have spent the week doing publicity photos. Be interesting to see how it plays out on Sunday
Cute hoorism?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: clarshack on February 12, 2023, 01:19:45 AM
Will this be easy got on the iPlayer app tomorrow or a whole rigmarole like the Armagh v Monaghan game?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 08:24:48 AM
Am I the only one who just doesn't get the whole appeal of McRory cup? In many cases the best players (senior county) don't even feature whereas lads who peak early in their physical development do.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LC on February 12, 2023, 08:40:55 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 08:24:48 AM
Am I the only one who just doesn't get the whole appeal of McRory cup? In many cases the best players (senior county) don't even feature whereas lads who peak early in their physical development do.

Would not necessarily agree with your first point but there is merit in your second point.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2023, 08:42:42 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 08:24:48 AM
Am I the only one who just doesn't get the whole appeal of McRory cup? In many cases the best players (senior county) don't even feature whereas lads who peak early in their physical development do.

Were you not picked for your school team?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 10:12:49 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2023, 08:42:42 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 08:24:48 AM
Am I the only one who just doesn't get the whole appeal of McRory cup? In many cases the best players (senior county) don't even feature whereas lads who peak early in their physical development do.

Were you not picked for your school team?

Never even picked for 5 a side  ;D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: general_lee on February 12, 2023, 11:23:49 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 08:24:48 AM
Am I the only one who just doesn't get the whole appeal of McRory cup? In many cases the best players (senior county) don't even feature whereas lads who peak early in their physical development do.
I get this. a relative of didn't make McRory, didn't make one single school team in fact but fast forward 4/5 years later was on the fringes of the  senior county team and only for studying and traveling abroad probably would have made it at inter county level. I'd say there was probably only a handful of players from my years McRory team that was still playing club football at senior level 10 years on. That said I do enjoy the latter stages of the competition and keep an eye out for results.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 12, 2023, 12:47:38 PM
Tony Scullion dudnt stand out at school fball, look where he ended up, where D Barton stood out a mile at the vocational school level for St Pius. I dudnt really think Tohill stood out at school fball, (Did for Derry Minors) D McNicholl and J McCartan were always the stand out players at MacCrory Cup level. Still can't understand how the age limit is 19, who is still at school at that age? Outside of repeats.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: WT4E on February 12, 2023, 12:48:10 PM
Can u pay at the f**king gate today
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bigfrank on February 12, 2023, 01:21:03 PM
Quote from: WT4E on February 12, 2023, 12:48:10 PM
Can u pay at the f**king gate today

You could at the semi final #cashisking
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 02:18:54 PM
If Holy Trinity have lads who are brought in a day or two a week I hope Omagh wipe the floor with them!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: clarshack on February 12, 2023, 02:32:52 PM
Holy Trinity have been shockingly poor.
Doesn't look like they've any decent forwards.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on February 12, 2023, 02:36:34 PM
Loughmacrory lads playing well 😎
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 02:55:23 PM
Did Devlin from Ardboe move from the Academy to Holy Trinity? Is that Horse Devlin's son?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 12, 2023, 03:05:00 PM
Actually 1 day a week by reports.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 12, 2023, 03:07:43 PM
I played with a few of their fathers on this holy trinty team, and most of my friends/brother went there, but find it hard to get behind them with what is to me, management pulling a quick one on the status of some players.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: clarshack on February 12, 2023, 03:18:22 PM
How on earth did that Holy Trinity team even make the final? Was the standard that bad among all the other teams they played?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: square_ball on February 12, 2023, 03:18:41 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 02:55:23 PM
Did Devlin from Ardboe move from the Academy to Holy Trinity? Is that Horse Devlin's son?

Yeah that's him. He done his 7 years at the academy before going to HTC. He's been poor today. Looks to be carrying an injury in fairness.

Omagh by far and away the better side. Score line nearly flatters HTC.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on February 12, 2023, 03:20:59 PM
Good to see the cookstown team of ringers getting a hammering. Justice done in the end. Fair play Omagh
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 12, 2023, 03:27:37 PM
Well a few of  them only see each other in training and not in school.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 03:30:04 PM
Quote from: square_ball on February 12, 2023, 03:18:41 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 02:55:23 PM
Did Devlin from Ardboe move from the Academy to Holy Trinity? Is that Horse Devlin's son?

Yeah that's him. He done his 7 years at the academy before going to HTC. He's been poor today. Looks to be carrying an injury in fairness.

Omagh by far and away the better side. Score line nearly flatters HTC.

Is he repeating or what? What would be the incentive to go there and not on to uni. Surely not financial.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: clarshack on February 12, 2023, 03:18:22 PM
How on earth did that Holy Trinity team even make the final? Was the standard that bad among all the other teams they played?

Well Maghera coaching is awful and has been this long time so that's probably the reason they won the quarter final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 12, 2023, 03:39:38 PM
Simply put, no old secondary year 8,(yr15) should be eligible to play MacCrory Cup, the age grouping should be back to 18& half.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on February 12, 2023, 05:04:46 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: clarshack on February 12, 2023, 03:18:22 PM
How on earth did that Holy Trinity team even make the final? Was the standard that bad among all the other teams they played?

Well Maghera coaching is awful and has been this long time so that's probably the reason they won the quarter final.

If 4 MacRory titles out of 5 final appearances in the last 10/12 years or so is awful coaching I'd hate to see them with good coaching.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: WT4E on February 12, 2023, 05:17:42 PM
What was the chant the CBS ultras where chanting at Ruairi McHugh
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 05:22:42 PM
Quote from: Estimator on February 12, 2023, 05:04:46 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: clarshack on February 12, 2023, 03:18:22 PM
How on earth did that Holy Trinity team even make the final? Was the standard that bad among all the other teams they played?

Well Maghera coaching is awful and has been this long time so that's probably the reason they won the quarter final.

If 4 MacRory titles out of 5 final appearances in the last 10/12 years or so is awful coaching I'd hate to see them with good coaching.

Maybe we have different expectations Estimator!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: skeog on February 12, 2023, 06:20:59 PM
Ruairi mc Hugh seemed to play on one leg for most of game.Wouldnt have mattered CBS the better team by a good bit.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: PMG1 on February 12, 2023, 06:29:41 PM
Great crowd at the game, Omagh were superbly drilled and tackling was first class. Trinity were much more physical but didn't seem to gel, Omagh definitely the better team. Fair play. Omagh have underachieved recently but great to see them back at the top of the pile
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Link on February 12, 2023, 07:29:20 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 12, 2023, 05:36:08 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 12, 2023, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: clarshack on February 12, 2023, 03:18:22 PM
How on earth did that Holy Trinity team even make the final? Was the standard that bad among all the other teams they played?

Well Maghera coaching is awful and has been this long time so that's probably the reason they won the quarter final.
Having watched the quarter final, I don't think that's true. Maghera were very unlucky not to win it. Young lads are unpredictable.
Walter is 100%. Maghera had too many passengers and players who werent comfortable on the ball compared to that omagh team today especially in defence.

They've a manager who doesn't attend club games so can't have a clue whats going on and spent most of the QF shouting and arguing with opposition mgmt.

Limited subs made yet there were lads cramping all over the place.

Maghera's raw talent, especially those glen and slaughtneil lads who have came through, got them over the line.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2023, 07:30:57 PM
Hope HTC are on half term this week. Wee crabbit Pete would go through them.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 12, 2023, 07:42:40 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 12, 2023, 07:30:57 PM
Hope HTC are on half term this week. Wee crabbit Pete would go through them.


Sure are most of them not on the building site tomorrow
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: giveherlong on February 12, 2023, 08:22:09 PM

That was a pish poor effort from Cookstown. A  year wasted for the 8th years
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: thebuzz on February 12, 2023, 08:37:36 PM
What I saw of it they had plenty of possession but they did nothing with it. There were so many times they got into the Omagh half only to be easily dispossessed. They weren't even kicking wides most of the time. Never saw so many unforced errors.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: WT4E on February 12, 2023, 08:49:05 PM
It really did look like a wel gelled team against good lads that werent a unit.

E.g.
Ardboe lads seemed to only pass to ardboe lads
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2023, 08:52:20 PM
Yeah they seemed to want to play like the county sides - a lot of slowing the ball down, trying to be patient. It didn't work at all. Omagh went at them.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on February 12, 2023, 09:21:10 PM
I was at a few group games, every team playing the same awful type of shite that HTC were at today, hard to watch.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: square_ball on February 12, 2023, 09:32:45 PM
The amount of times HTC stood still soloing the ball and doing nothing with it was crazy. The only time they played with a bit of pace they got the goal from it. McKeever, McGeary & Canavan had them very poorly set up. At the same time Omagh had much the better players all over the pitch so maybe there wasn't much they could do.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: OrchardOrange on February 12, 2023, 11:09:16 PM
It's a disgrace that 2 Tyrone schools contest the final. What's worse 3 Tyrone teams in the semis.  Favoritism the likes of I've never seen.  >:(Next we'll hear is that Errigal Ciaran get a bye to the final and not a grammar school within 15 miles of it!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: delgany on February 13, 2023, 12:03:25 AM
Quote from: OrchardOrange on February 12, 2023, 11:09:16 PM
It's a disgrace that 2 Tyrone schools contest the final. What's worse 3 Tyrone teams in the semis.  Favoritism the likes of I've never seen.  >:(Next we'll hear is that Errigal Ciaran get a bye to the final and not a grammar school within 15 miles of it!!
To make matters worse , Tyrone teams have cleaned up the A B & C grades !
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: smort on February 13, 2023, 12:41:57 AM
It's time to split Tyrone schools!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: RedHand88 on February 13, 2023, 05:16:10 AM
Quote from: giveherlong on February 12, 2023, 08:22:09 PM

That was a pish poor effort from Cookstown. A  year wasted for the 8th years

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LeoMc on February 13, 2023, 09:01:33 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 13, 2023, 12:03:25 AM
Quote from: OrchardOrange on February 12, 2023, 11:09:16 PM
It's a disgrace that 2 Tyrone schools contest the final. What's worse 3 Tyrone teams in the semis.  Favoritism the likes of I've never seen.  >:(Next we'll hear is that Errigal Ciaran get a bye to the final and not a grammar school within 15 miles of it!!
To make matters worse , Tyrone teams have cleaned up the A B & C grades !
I thought some of the commentators saying that the majority of the Donaghmore McLarnon team were lower sixth. If so, they  could be looking at competing in the McRory next year.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Onthe40 on February 13, 2023, 09:32:56 AM
AFAIK they will go to McRory next year
Disappointing final yesterday.. Cookstown nowhere near the performance level needed to lift the trophy, bar first 10mins game never in doubt...Omagh far superior team.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on February 13, 2023, 10:00:01 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on February 13, 2023, 09:01:33 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 13, 2023, 12:03:25 AM
Quote from: OrchardOrange on February 12, 2023, 11:09:16 PM
It's a disgrace that 2 Tyrone schools contest the final. What's worse 3 Tyrone teams in the semis.  Favoritism the likes of I've never seen.  >:(Next we'll hear is that Errigal Ciaran get a bye to the final and not a grammar school within 15 miles of it!!
To make matters worse , Tyrone teams have cleaned up the A B & C grades !
I thought some of the commentators saying that the majority of the Donaghmore McLarnon team were lower sixth. If so, they  could be looking at competing in the McRory next year.
Donaghmore definitely played Rannafast last year. Maghera beat them by a few points in the quarter-final, so they definitely could step up next year.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LeoMc on February 13, 2023, 10:05:36 AM
Quote from: OrchardOrange on February 12, 2023, 11:09:16 PM
It's a disgrace that 2 Tyrone schools contest the final. What's worse 3 Tyrone teams in the semis.  Favoritism the likes of I've never seen.  >:(Next we'll hear is that Errigal Ciaran get a bye to the final and not a grammar school within 15 miles of it!!
Go on tell us more! Why is it a disgrace and why would St Ciarans need to be a grammar to enter?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on February 13, 2023, 10:18:08 AM
This thread has turned into something resembling the old Hogan Stand comments section.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on February 13, 2023, 11:46:22 AM
Quote from: Estimator on February 13, 2023, 10:00:01 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on February 13, 2023, 09:01:33 AM
Quote from: delgany on February 13, 2023, 12:03:25 AM
Quote from: OrchardOrange on February 12, 2023, 11:09:16 PM
It's a disgrace that 2 Tyrone schools contest the final. What's worse 3 Tyrone teams in the semis.  Favoritism the likes of I've never seen.  >:(Next we'll hear is that Errigal Ciaran get a bye to the final and not a grammar school within 15 miles of it!!
To make matters worse , Tyrone teams have cleaned up the A B & C grades !
I thought some of the commentators saying that the majority of the Donaghmore McLarnon team were lower sixth. If so, they  could be looking at competing in the McRory next year.
Donaghmore definitely played Rannafast last year. Maghera beat them by a few points in the quarter-final, so they definitely could step up next year.
Winning a first trophy was a big thing I suppose, they'd have been more than competitive in the MacRory. I watched them v St Pat's Armagh in a warm up game, I believe a few were missing  that day too, Armagh won by a point but very fortunate to have done so.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Blowitupref on February 25, 2023, 02:54:26 PM
Omagh just leading last years defending All Ireland champions Naas by 2-11 to 0-1 at half time. 4-15 to 0-7 it finished. Play Summerhill Sligo in the final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: NotedObserver on February 25, 2023, 04:11:37 PM
Omagh a few quality forwards
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on February 25, 2023, 04:22:06 PM
Tyrone schools could do a clean sweep of the All-Ireland finals.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on February 26, 2023, 12:31:46 PM
Quote from: Estimator on February 25, 2023, 04:22:06 PM
Tyrone schools could do a clean sweep of the All-Ireland finals.

Two out of three ain't bad.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LC on March 10, 2023, 02:26:27 PM
https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/o-carolan-college-aim-to-crown-incredible-year-with-all-ireland-title/

Surely something not right here, obviously a team playing one if not two grades lower than they should be.

Surely Carrickmore were not that bad a team.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Nanderson on March 10, 2023, 02:29:42 PM
Quote from: LC on March 10, 2023, 02:26:27 PM
https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/o-carolan-college-aim-to-crown-incredible-year-with-all-ireland-title/

Surely something not right here, obviously a team playing one if not two grades lower than they should be.

Surely Carrickmore were not that bad a team.
Not many C grade schools in Ireland would have county players let alone minors and u20s

'Four of them, Sean O'Hare, Killian Smyth, Rian McConnell, and Adam Matthews, won All-Ireland minor medals in 2021. Three of them, O'Hare, Smyth and McConnell, are now members of the Meath U-20 panel.

They also have four players who played for the Meath minors last year in Darragh Smith, Darragh Kelly, Declan O'Reilly and Rian Stafford, who is a nephew of Royal County legend Brian Stafford.'
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LC on March 10, 2023, 02:32:29 PM
Would Omagh CBS even have that amount of county men?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on March 10, 2023, 05:26:04 PM
Quote from: LC on March 10, 2023, 02:32:29 PM
Would Omagh CBS even have that amount of county men?
Quick check to compare the 2022 Tyrone Ulster Minor final panel to the Omagh CBS MacRory Cup squad and there is a least 7/8 lads on both. Did the same with the Donaghmore team and it's similar numbers.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Onthe40 on March 10, 2023, 09:42:56 PM
Are both Tyrone schools firm favourites? I imagine with the Kerry lads gone it's Omagh's to loose
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2023, 07:32:20 AM
Was at Queens last night where the finest fifth year footballers of Ulster were battling it out for the future all stars awards...

Some fine footballers coming through the school systems
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: shawshank on March 17, 2023, 12:39:39 PM
I have to say that I think that the ' future all stars' thing is utter bollox. Seriously what is the point outside of trying to promote Queens
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Blowitupref on March 17, 2023, 12:57:43 PM
Hogan cup final starting in a few minutes. Should be Omagh the winners but has been achievement in itself for the Sligo school to reach the final.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PygEJV9GWzY

As good as over after 10 mins. Omagh 2-3 to 0-1 ahead.

Half time 3-8 to 0-4

Full time 6-16 to 3-8
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2023, 01:57:15 PM
Quote from: shawshank on March 17, 2023, 12:39:39 PM
I have to say that I think that the ' future all stars' thing is utter bollox. Seriously what is the point outside of trying to promote Queens

Well the kids put plenty effort into it.

As for Queens promotion, sure what's wrong with promoting going to college? Very clever to show your worth
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LC on March 17, 2023, 04:45:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 17, 2023, 01:57:15 PM
Quote from: shawshank on March 17, 2023, 12:39:39 PM
I have to say that I think that the ' future all stars' thing is utter bollox. Seriously what is the point outside of trying to promote Queens

Well the kids put plenty effort into it.

As for Queens promotion, sure what's wrong with promoting going to college? Very clever to show your worth

I think UU doing something similar but it is for 6th formers, same objective no doubt as Queens.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.

Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.

Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.

Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.

Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.

Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes

Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: shawshank on March 17, 2023, 07:27:05 PM
Regardless, that was a serious Omagh team. They'll be a few because of the pace they have
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.

Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.

Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes

Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
From the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the water
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.

Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.

Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes

Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
From the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the water

How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: God14 on March 17, 2023, 08:38:41 PM
Consider how good Omagh were.

Dungannon academy and Holy Trinity Cookstown made up a three of the semi finalists for Tyrone schools

Donaghmore convent swept all before them at 'b' grade winning ulster and All Ireland handsomely

Carrickmore did well also at the C grade winning Ulster

I can see why the Derryman is concerned. Serious firepower coming down the tracks

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:47:58 PM
Quote from: God14 on March 17, 2023, 08:38:41 PM
Consider how good Omagh were.

Dungannon academy and Holy Trinity Cookstown made up a three of the semi finalists for Tyrone schools

Donaghmore convent swept all before them at 'b' grade winning ulster and All Ireland handsomely

Carrickmore did well also at the C grade winning Ulster

I can see why the Derryman is concerned. Serious firepower coming down the tracks



Lol where did I mention Tyrone?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 17, 2023, 09:11:55 PM
A lot of athletic looking players on the Omagh team who can make the step up to county level if developed right. Tyrone have top of range facilities in order to do that also.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on March 17, 2023, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.

Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.

Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes

Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
From the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the water

How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.

Why change the argument to 'established' county players?

From those Maghera teams, would you just call Niall Toner, Padraig Cassidy, Oisin McWilliams, Shea Downey and Paul McNeill county players, but not 'established' county players?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 11:20:09 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.

Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.

Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes

Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
From the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the water

How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.
Mooneys been playing every year bar the years he's had bad injuries since he was a minor. Donal OHare was consistently our top forward for the best part of 5 years. Jerome and Ryan have been established for a long time as well
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: snoopdog on March 18, 2023, 08:05:03 AM
Quote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 11:20:09 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.

Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.

Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes

Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
From the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the water

How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.
Mooneys been playing every year bar the years he's had bad injuries since he was a minor. Donal OHare was consistently our top forward for the best part of 5 years. Jerome and Ryan have been established for a long time as well
Saying colleges football is seriously overrated bacuse few make county teams is like saying Minor football is also overrated. I've seen many an entertaining game in colleges football.  How many of the great St Colmans and Maghera sides in mid to late 80s went on to play for their counties? and win Sam.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.

IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball? ( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans,  St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on March 18, 2023, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.

IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball? ( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans,  St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.

Do many sth. Armagh lads still go to the 2 Newry schools?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 18, 2023, 11:57:58 AM
Quote from: marty34 on March 18, 2023, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.

IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball? ( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans,  St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.

Do many sth. Armagh lads still go to the 2 Newry schools?

Still the schools of preference generally but the numbers wouldn't be what they were. St Pauls and St Joes in Cross gradually getting stronger and stronger. St Joe's have the new school now so I can see it pushing on a lot,  particularly with A Level now well established.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on March 18, 2023, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 18, 2023, 11:57:58 AM
Quote from: marty34 on March 18, 2023, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.

IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball? ( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans,  St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.

Do many sth. Armagh lads still go to the 2 Newry schools?

Still the schools of preference generally but the numbers wouldn't be what they were. St Pauls and St Joes in Cross gradually getting stronger and stronger. St Joe's have the new school now so I can see it pushing on a lot,  particularly with A Level now well established.

Ok. Was thinking Colman's and Abbey have drifted from the scene a bit.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: grounded on March 18, 2023, 01:15:41 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 18, 2023, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.

IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball? ( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans,  St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.

Do many sth. Armagh lads still go to the 2 Newry schools?

Traditionally there was always big numbers of Cross,Mullaghbawn,Silverbridge and Killeavy lads in the Abbey and they obviously made up a large proportion of football teams.
     The College although on the Armagh side of Newry, traditionally had a bigger contingent of Down students. There was always a big Lurgan contingent in the College though.
     Much different now i'm told with a greater mix in both schools.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: thewobbler on March 18, 2023, 03:05:44 PM
Biggest difference between Down and Tyrone at the minute is nothing to do with population, demographics, county size.

In my opinion it's partly to do with aspiration - young lads having both heroes and a genuine chance of playing in AI final is the difference between a talented and competitive player and a talented and absolutely focused player. The latter usually wins. It's also partly to do with knowledge and understanding, in that they've now had two generations of players that have each shown the following year group just how much effort it takes to reach the top.

It's this ability to focus that turn occasional triumphs into a conveyor belt. This is what St Colmans had for years.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wolfetones on March 18, 2023, 11:32:11 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.

IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball?
( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans,  St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.

If anything Tyrone are currently over achieving considering that at the last count almost 25% of all the primary/post primary school age children within the RC/Nationalist community in Tyrone are within the Strabane catchment area and are contributing very little.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 18, 2023, 11:39:10 PM
What you thing Derry like, I was in a school in the city last week primary level, they had 30 classrooms of children. I enquired if a local gaa team does much interaction with the school, nope , was thinking of what my old small team in the county could done with them numbers. Derry missing something badly wrong at primary level in the city. The amount of lost player base is unbelievable, with many going to secondary / gramnar with no gaa experience. Not a wonder the City can't produce a MacCrory cup team.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: shawshank on March 18, 2023, 11:56:50 PM
Quote from: Estimator on March 17, 2023, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.

Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.

Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes

Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
From the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the water

How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.

Why change the argument to 'established' county players?

From those Maghera teams, would you just call Niall Toner, Padraig Cassidy, Oisin McWilliams, Shea Downey and Paul McNeill county players, but not 'established' county players?

You forgot McKaigue, McClosey, D Cassidy. McKindless, E Bradley, Lynch all played a couple of MacRory campaigns, some won it
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 19, 2023, 09:10:46 AM
Quote from: Wolfetones on March 18, 2023, 11:32:11 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.

IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball?
( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans,  St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.

If anything Tyrone are currently over achieving considering that at the last count almost 25% of all the primary/post primary school age children within the RC/Nationalist community in Tyrone are within the Strabane catchment area and are contributing very little.
Where would the likes of Stevie O'Neill & Dooher have gone to secondary?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wolfetones on March 19, 2023, 10:09:04 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 19, 2023, 09:10:46 AM
Quote from: Wolfetones on March 18, 2023, 11:32:11 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.

IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball?
( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans,  St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.

If anything Tyrone are currently over achieving considering that at the last count almost 25% of all the primary/post primary school age children within the RC/Nationalist community in Tyrone are within the Strabane catchment area and are contributing very little.
Where would the likes of Stevie O'Neill & Dooher have gone to secondary?

Stevie ONeill went to St Joseph's in Plumbridge, long since closed, and then CBS in Omagh. Brian Dooher went to St Columbs in Derry.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on March 19, 2023, 10:26:08 AM
Quote from: Wolfetones on March 19, 2023, 10:09:04 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 19, 2023, 09:10:46 AM
Quote from: Wolfetones on March 18, 2023, 11:32:11 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2023, 10:12:15 AM
A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.

IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball?
( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans,  St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.

If anything Tyrone are currently over achieving considering that at the last count almost 25% of all the primary/post primary school age children within the RC/Nationalist community in Tyrone are within the Strabane catchment area and are contributing very little.
Where would the likes of Stevie O'Neill & Dooher have gone to secondary?

Stevie ONeill went to St Joseph's in Plumbridge, long since closed, and then CBS in Omagh. Brian Dooher went to St Columbs in Derry.

Sad at the demise of the small rural schools.

Where the lads or lassies were going to be going to the tech or a trade etc.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on March 19, 2023, 11:00:53 AM
Quote from: shawshank on March 18, 2023, 11:56:50 PM
Quote from: Estimator on March 17, 2023, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.

Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.

Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes

Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
From the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the water

How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.

Why change the argument to 'established' county players?

From those Maghera teams, would you just call Niall Toner, Padraig Cassidy, Oisin McWilliams, Shea Downey and Paul McNeill county players, but not 'established' county players?

You forgot McKaigue, McClosey, D Cassidy. McKindless, E Bradley, Lynch all played a couple of MacRory campaigns, some won it

Didn't forget, was just highlighting the other Derry players from those Maghera teams referenced by the previous poster.

Could also point out that McCloskey, Lynch, Cassidy, McEvoy, O'Donnell have all come through on the back of Convent victories in the last 7/8 years.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2023, 01:08:21 PM
Quote from: Estimator on March 19, 2023, 11:00:53 AM
Quote from: shawshank on March 18, 2023, 11:56:50 PM
Quote from: Estimator on March 17, 2023, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.

Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.

Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes

Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
From the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the water

How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.

Why change the argument to 'established' county players?

From those Maghera teams, would you just call Niall Toner, Padraig Cassidy, Oisin McWilliams, Shea Downey and Paul McNeill county players, but not 'established' county players?

You forgot McKaigue, McClosey, D Cassidy. McKindless, E Bradley, Lynch all played a couple of MacRory campaigns, some won it

Didn't forget, was just highlighting the other Derry players from those Maghera teams referenced by the previous poster.

Could also point out that McCloskey, Lynch, Cassidy, McEvoy, O'Donnell have all come through on the back of Convent victories in the last 7/8 years.

Or those Rossa players listed have come through based on the brilliant underage work at the club.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on March 20, 2023, 07:03:01 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2023, 01:08:21 PM
Quote from: Estimator on March 19, 2023, 11:00:53 AM
Quote from: shawshank on March 18, 2023, 11:56:50 PM
Quote from: Estimator on March 17, 2023, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.

Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.

Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes

Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
From the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the water

How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.

Why change the argument to 'established' county players?

From those Maghera teams, would you just call Niall Toner, Padraig Cassidy, Oisin McWilliams, Shea Downey and Paul McNeill county players, but not 'established' county players?

You forgot McKaigue, McClosey, D Cassidy. McKindless, E Bradley, Lynch all played a couple of MacRory campaigns, some won it

Didn't forget, was just highlighting the other Derry players from those Maghera teams referenced by the previous poster.

Could also point out that McCloskey, Lynch, Cassidy, McEvoy, O'Donnell have all come through on the back of Convent victories in the last 7/8 years.

Or those Rossa players listed have come through based on the brilliant underage work at the club.

That's another different argument.

It'd be easy to say the same about every single school/colleges team in Ireland.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: JimStynes on March 21, 2023, 07:38:22 PM
Is colleges football taken more serious in Ulster? Is it as big a deal in other provinces as it is here.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: InnocentByStander on March 27, 2023, 09:36:54 AM
Quote from: Estimator on March 17, 2023, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on March 17, 2023, 08:06:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 17, 2023, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: NotedObserver on March 17, 2023, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 17, 2023, 05:29:21 PM
Serious performances by Omagh in the semi and final...winning by 18 and 17 points respectively. Almost a pity it was so one sided as the atmosphere never really got going in Croker. Great achievement for my own club having 3 players on the 15 one being the captain with 2-5 from play and another being man of the match.

Any one of 4 or 5 schools in Ulster could have made a great cracking at winning today. Standard very high across the province this year.

Surely a good few inter county players come from that side. Serious talents with serious attitudes

Doubt it. Schools football hugely over rated. Be doing well to get 5/6 top club players from any school side. Hogan winners or not!
From the St Colmans Newry side that won 2 hogans in 10 and 11 AFAIK Caolan Mooney, Jerome and Ryan Johnston, Niall McParland, Niall Donnelly, Donal O'Hare and Ross McGarry. There were others on that team that played for Armagh so I'm not sure if any of them went on to play at senior level with Armagh. Honourable mention to Shay McCartan who went on to play professional soccer across the water

How many of them would you call established county players? I wouldn't say one! And that includes Mooney. Maghera had numerous sides that won and reached Hogan finals over 3 or 4 years. Conor Glass and Shane McGuigan the only two to really come through to play at a high level.

Why change the argument to 'established' county players?

From those Maghera teams, would you just call Niall Toner, Padraig Cassidy, Oisin McWilliams, Shea Downey and Paul McNeill county players, but not 'established' county players?

This Argument is just rubbish, I Remember going to Maghera and attending a Hogan Final watching None other than  David Clifford put on a masterclass and beat Maghera on his won that day, Dara Moynihan was also on the team, probably a few others. Alot of Kerry's top players either play schools football for St brendans or SEM.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on September 20, 2023, 03:03:53 PM
MacRory Cup Groups 23/24

 

Group A

St Pats Armagh

St Macartans Monaghan

Abbey CBS

St Pats Maghera

 

Group B

St Colman's Newry

St Michael's Enniskillen

St Pat's Dungannon

St Marys Magherafelt

 

Group C

St Joseph's Donaghmore

Holy Trinity Cookstown

Our Lady's Blayney

St Pat's Cavan

 

Group D

St Ronan's Lurgan

Patrician Carrickmacross

St Paul's Bessbrook

Omagh CBS
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: GTP on September 20, 2023, 07:24:09 PM
Group B
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on September 20, 2023, 08:36:08 PM
Definitely Group B.

See there's a 100 year anniversary match of the founding of the MacRory between Armagh & Macartans. St Pats have a commemorative jersey for the occasion (the old college black & white - as opposed to current Mayo colours, post amalgamation with CBS), saw it today, a cracking looking Jersey. Macartans are doing the same, tho I'm not sure if their original colours differ.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on November 10, 2023, 01:17:24 PM
First game today, Maghera v MacCartans in Stewartstown at 2pm.

Edit - MacRory Full time: St Patrick's, Maghera 3:11: St Macartan's, Monaghan 2-10
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: snoopdog on November 10, 2023, 05:19:30 PM
Quote from: grounded on March 18, 2023, 01:15:41 PM
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A nonsense argument Walter is putting forward, Colleges football is a super standard, much more Darwinian than some underage county panels.

IMO Tyrone' Schools' biggest advantage is that it is a huge county comparatively speaking with much greater nationalist leaning people (strong communities & clubs) than other counties. Gaelic football is king everywhere as well, little Hurling, Soccer, even Basketball? ( I remember Dungannon used to be a BB powerhouse but do they bother with it anymore?). In A grade Armagh have 2 regular MacRory teams, St Pats Armagh & St Ronans Lurgan and up until the creation of Ronans,  St Pats were the only A grade side, and a lot of our catchment area are Armagh clubs near the Tyrone border who gravitate towards Dungannon Academy. St Paul's Bessbrook flit between A & B grade and they have to contend with half of South Armagh going to Newry Schools. But that is just the way it is, there aren't going to be any structural changes that can level the playing field a bit.

Do many sth. Armagh lads still go to the 2 Newry schools?

Traditionally there was always big numbers of Cross,Mullaghbawn,Silverbridge and Killeavy lads in the Abbey and they obviously made up a large proportion of football teams.
     The College although on the Armagh side of Newry, traditionally had a bigger contingent of Down students. There was always a big Lurgan contingent in the College though.
     Much different now i'm told with a greater mix in both schools.
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When I went to St colmans late 80s early 90s there were loads from South Armagh in the school.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on December 13, 2023, 09:43:45 AM
Popped over to watch St Pat's Academy V St Pat's Armagh last night in the Rannafast final. Armagh led at the break by 2 points they got a fairly fortuitous goal in 1st half from a high ball into the square. Academy made hard work in first half running into a well organised and strong Armagh defence, who bottled them up and turned them over. HT 1-5 0-6
Academy better setup after the break and stopped running into the Armagh defence. Switching the play well to get a few danger men to catch handy marks as well as strong runners coming at better angles to break them down. Got a bit of a run on them. Armagh got another fairly lucky penalty to come back a them but Academy had a bit too much in the end running out 0-16 to 2-6 winners.

Good game. Best for Academy probably Joel Kerr, Liam McGeary and big lad in MF. Stewartstown lad.
Armagh Cathair Hughes, and Matty Daly.

https://teamtalkmag.com/rannafast-title-for-academy/ (https://teamtalkmag.com/rannafast-title-for-academy/)

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on December 13, 2023, 10:21:24 AM
Tyrone schools flying again. Three of them topped their MacRory groups as well and automatically through to the Quarter Finals.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on December 13, 2023, 10:39:48 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on December 13, 2023, 10:21:24 AMTyrone schools flying again. Three of them topped their MacRory groups as well and automatically through to the Quarter Finals.

Good smattering of that Armagh Rannafast team are all from Tyrone as well. Eglish and The Moy
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: TwoUpTwoDown on December 13, 2023, 10:54:59 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on December 13, 2023, 10:21:24 AMTyrone schools flying again. Three of them topped their MacRory groups as well and automatically through to the Quarter Finals.

Any word on how other Tyrone schools are going? I was interested to see how the Dean got on in MacLarnon.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on December 13, 2023, 11:45:09 AM
🏆MACRORY CUP  FIXTURES / RESULTS 🏆

Play-offs ( Wednesday, January 3 – Saturday, January 6)

Playoff 1 St Macartan's, Monaghan v Patrician, Carrickmacross
Playoff 2 St. Ronan's, Lurgan v Abbey CBS, Newry
Playoff 3 St Mary's, Magherafelt v St Patrick's, Cavan
Playoff 4 Our Lady's, Castleblayney v St Colman's, Newry

Quarter-finals (Tuesday January 9 – Sunday, January 14)
QF1 St Patrick's, Maghera v PO3 Winner
QF2 St Patrick's, Dungannon v PO1 Winner
QF3 St Joseph's, Donaghmore v PO2 Winner
QF4 Omagh CBS v PO4 Winner

Semi-finals (Tuesday, January 23 – Sunday, January 28)
QF1 Winner v QF4 Winner
QF3 Winner v QF2 Winner

Final
Sunday, February 11

Could easily end up with another all Tyrone final with the way the fixtures have panned out. And in fairness, those sitting in the QFs could be caught by one of the play off teams, with a bit of momemtum behind them.

Maghera, Macartans and Omagh have been the teams that have got to the various finals up through the year groups. So I'd hazard a guess that the semi-final line up will be:

Maghera v Omagh
Macartans v Donaghmore
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Onthe40 on December 13, 2023, 12:04:53 PM
Quote from: trailer on December 13, 2023, 09:43:45 AMPopped over to watch St Pat's Academy V St Pat's Armagh last night in the Rannafast final. Armagh led at the break by 2 points they got a fairly fortuitous goal in 1st half from a high ball into the square. Academy made hard work in first half running into a well organised and strong Armagh defence, who bottled them up and turned them over. HT 1-5 0-6
Academy better setup after the break and stopped running into the Armagh defence. Switching the play well to get a few danger men to catch handy marks as well as strong runners coming at better angles to break them down. Got a bit of a run on them. Armagh got another fairly lucky penalty to come back a them but Academy had a bit too much in the end running out 0-16 to 2-6 winners.

Good game. Best for Academy probably Joel Kerr, Liam McGeary and big lad in MF. Stewartstown lad.
Armagh Cathair Hughes, and Matty Daly.

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was it not the kildress lad in midfield...quality player..
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on December 13, 2023, 12:31:26 PM
Couldn't make it last night but I was at Armagh's last 3 Rannafast games, Dungannon beat us by 6 in the group stage so we knew it was going to be a big ask last night (& thats their 3rd Ulster title in a row for this group), but it bodes well for the future (& for my club as we'd 7 or 8 on show) should be competitive in the MacRory for a couple of years, noticeable that Dungannon & Abbey in the semi were that bit bigger generally. One of Dungannon's best players is young McGeary believe he's been starting on the MacRory team all year as well, a shame that he's in the Tyrone underage set up as him & his family are Armagh through & through, a major slip up there on our part.

As for the MacRory, was at all of Armagh's games including a few warm up games, unlucky to be departing at group stage after 2 x 1pt defeats and beating half a Maghera team (with half an Armagh team tbf). Was at Ronans v Bessbrook last week.

I predict a Maghera v Dungannon final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on December 13, 2023, 01:36:00 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on December 13, 2023, 12:04:53 PM
Quote from: trailer on December 13, 2023, 09:43:45 AMPopped over to watch St Pat's Academy V St Pat's Armagh last night in the Rannafast final. Armagh led at the break by 2 points they got a fairly fortuitous goal in 1st half from a high ball into the square. Academy made hard work in first half running into a well organised and strong Armagh defence, who bottled them up and turned them over. HT 1-5 0-6
Academy better setup after the break and stopped running into the Armagh defence. Switching the play well to get a few danger men to catch handy marks as well as strong runners coming at better angles to break them down. Got a bit of a run on them. Armagh got another fairly lucky penalty to come back a them but Academy had a bit too much in the end running out 0-16 to 2-6 winners.

Good game. Best for Academy probably Joel Kerr, Liam McGeary and big lad in MF. Stewartstown lad.
Armagh Cathair Hughes, and Matty Daly.

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was it not the kildress lad in midfield...quality player..

Could have been. I didn't know him tbh and the fella I was with said Stewartstown. Apologies if it was Kildress lad. Good player.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on December 13, 2023, 01:53:55 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on December 13, 2023, 12:31:26 PMCouldn't make it last night but I was at Armagh's last 3 Rannafast games, Dungannon beat us by 6 in the group stage so we knew it was going to be a big ask last night (& thats their 3rd Ulster title in a row for this group), but it bodes well for the future (& for my club as we'd 7 or 8 on show) should be competitive in the MacRory for a couple of years, noticeable that Dungannon & Abbey in the semi were that bit bigger generally. One of Dungannon's best players is young McGeary believe he's been starting on the MacRory team all year as well, a shame that he's in the Tyrone underage set up as him & his family are Armagh through & through, a major slip up there on our part.

As for the MacRory, was at all of Armagh's games including a few warm up games, unlucky to be departing at group stage after 2 x 1pt defeats and beating half a Maghera team (with half an Armagh team tbf). Was at Ronans v Bessbrook last week.

I predict a Maghera v Dungannon final.

Serious player. But he's with The Moy and lives in Tyrone and at a Tyrone school, so probably difficult enough for Armagh to pickup. But one for the future.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Armagh18 on December 13, 2023, 02:01:55 PM
Quote from: trailer on December 13, 2023, 01:53:55 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on December 13, 2023, 12:31:26 PMCouldn't make it last night but I was at Armagh's last 3 Rannafast games, Dungannon beat us by 6 in the group stage so we knew it was going to be a big ask last night (& thats their 3rd Ulster title in a row for this group), but it bodes well for the future (& for my club as we'd 7 or 8 on show) should be competitive in the MacRory for a couple of years, noticeable that Dungannon & Abbey in the semi were that bit bigger generally. One of Dungannon's best players is young McGeary believe he's been starting on the MacRory team all year as well, a shame that he's in the Tyrone underage set up as him & his family are Armagh through & through, a major slip up there on our part.

As for the MacRory, was at all of Armagh's games including a few warm up games, unlucky to be departing at group stage after 2 x 1pt defeats and beating half a Maghera team (with half an Armagh team tbf). Was at Ronans v Bessbrook last week.

I predict a Maghera v Dungannon final.

Serious player. But he's with The Moy and lives in Tyrone and at a Tyrone school, so probably difficult enough for Armagh to pickup. But one for the future. 
Collegeland blood in him?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 13, 2023, 03:56:52 PM
Maghera and Omagh not the teams to beat going by previous years? Maghera missing their best player in Danny McDermott. Injured for Glen in Ulster club semi final.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on December 13, 2023, 04:18:07 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 13, 2023, 03:56:52 PMMaghera and Omagh not the teams to beat going by previous years? Maghera missing their best player in Danny McDermott. Injured for Glen in Ulster club semi final.

They are on course for a semi meeting
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lurganblue on December 14, 2023, 09:02:06 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on December 13, 2023, 12:31:26 PMCouldn't make it last night but I was at Armagh's last 3 Rannafast games, Dungannon beat us by 6 in the group stage so we knew it was going to be a big ask last night (& thats their 3rd Ulster title in a row for this group), but it bodes well for the future (& for my club as we'd 7 or 8 on show) should be competitive in the MacRory for a couple of years, noticeable that Dungannon & Abbey in the semi were that bit bigger generally. One of Dungannon's best players is young McGeary believe he's been starting on the MacRory team all year as well, a shame that he's in the Tyrone underage set up as him & his family are Armagh through & through, a major slip up there on our part.

As for the MacRory, was at all of Armagh's games including a few warm up games, unlucky to be departing at group stage after 2 x 1pt defeats and beating half a Maghera team (with half an Armagh team tbf). Was at Ronans v Bessbrook last week.

I predict a Maghera v Dungannon final.

Good lad Benny.  I noticed from the school Facebook that there is a decent amount of Harps ones on the team.  I didnt see a single Pearse óg player.  Am i wrong in that? 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on December 14, 2023, 09:26:45 AM
No, correct, bit of an anomaly, apparently the year below is full of Ogs and no Harps at all!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lurganblue on December 14, 2023, 10:55:09 AM
Yes that is true I believe. There is a strong 3rd year ógs connection that do also fill the 4th year team.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on December 15, 2023, 09:38:50 AM
Quote from: TwoUpTwoDown on December 13, 2023, 10:54:59 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on December 13, 2023, 10:21:24 AMTyrone schools flying again. Three of them topped their MacRory groups as well and automatically through to the Quarter Finals.

Any word on how other Tyrone schools are going? I was interested to see how the Dean got on in MacLarnon.
Won 1 (St Eunans, Letterkenny) and Drew 1 (Loreto Milford). Play Abbey on Monday. A win sends them through to the Quarter Finals as group winners where they would play the winners of St Louis' Ballymena and Aquinas Belfast. A defeat puts them in a Play Off Game against St Pius for a place in the Quarter Finals.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Brendan on January 01, 2024, 09:44:08 PM
Lavey men kicked off the Maghera panel for playing hurling according to twitter
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 01, 2024, 11:40:13 PM
You think lads aren't fit to play a couple of games but no problem making them train multi times a week
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: toby47 on January 02, 2024, 09:09:31 AM
I wonder is there more to it?

Chrissy McKaigue is the manager, and has been getting a touch under the tweet by a few comments. Surely no bigger club man or duel player advocate? 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: tonto1888 on January 02, 2024, 09:11:32 AM
Is this definitely true? Very poor if so
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnnycool on January 02, 2024, 10:24:44 AM
Quote from: toby47 on January 02, 2024, 09:09:31 AMI wonder is there more to it?

Chrissy McKaigue is the manager, and has been getting a touch under the tweet by a few comments. Surely no bigger club man or duel player advocate? 

He'd hardly be the first manager/coach who it looking to build his reputation on the back of a few schools trophies and is entirely focused on that.

The fact that these lads were representing their club in an Ulster minor semi-final is quite galling that the school whose next game isn't till next week felt the need to exclude them for playing for their very club!!!

Stop forcing kids to chose between codes.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: toby47 on January 02, 2024, 10:30:22 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 02, 2024, 10:24:44 AM
Quote from: toby47 on January 02, 2024, 09:09:31 AMI wonder is there more to it?

Chrissy McKaigue is the manager, and has been getting a touch under the tweet by a few comments. Surely no bigger club man or duel player advocate? 

He'd hardly be the first manager/coach who it looking to build his reputation on the back of a few schools trophies and is entirely focused on that.

The fact that these lads were representing their club in an Ulster minor semi-final is quite galling that the school whose next game isn't till next week felt the need to exclude them for playing for their very club!!!

Stop forcing kids to chose between codes.


The school twitter page even tweeted a good luck post to Lavey's minor hurlers for the game. Very strange. Other players should back their team mates, hard at a young age though. McDermott would have been player for Glen this weekend too, if he didn't get injured - would he have been kicked off panel? Makes me think there has to be more to it, not saying it makes it right.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: statto on January 02, 2024, 10:55:59 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 02, 2024, 10:24:44 AM
Quote from: toby47 on January 02, 2024, 09:09:31 AMI wonder is there more to it?

Chrissy McKaigue is the manager, and has been getting a touch under the tweet by a few comments. Surely no bigger club man or duel player advocate? 

He'd hardly be the first manager/coach who it looking to build his reputation on the back of a few schools trophies and is entirely focused on that.

The fact that these lads were representing their club in an Ulster minor semi-final is quite galling that the school whose next game isn't till next week felt the need to exclude them for playing for their very club!!!

Stop forcing kids to chose between codes.

Did he not leave teaching to be a full time coach in his own club? That's what he talked about on the gaa social podcast last year. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Saffrongael on January 02, 2024, 11:37:20 AM
Quote from: statto on January 02, 2024, 10:55:59 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 02, 2024, 10:24:44 AM
Quote from: toby47 on January 02, 2024, 09:09:31 AMI wonder is there more to it?

Chrissy McKaigue is the manager, and has been getting a touch under the tweet by a few comments. Surely no bigger club man or duel player advocate? 

He'd hardly be the first manager/coach who it looking to build his reputation on the back of a few schools trophies and is entirely focused on that.

The fact that these lads were representing their club in an Ulster minor semi-final is quite galling that the school whose next game isn't till next week felt the need to exclude them for playing for their very club!!!

Stop forcing kids to chose between codes.

Did he not leave teaching to be a full time coach in his own club? That's what he talked about on the gaa social podcast last year. 

He must be in St Pats as a hired gun
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on January 02, 2024, 11:46:48 AM
How can he do the two?

Is that not a conflict of interest?

Be interesting to find out what the truth is anyway regarding this whole issue.

College football is very serious at the time but minor in the bigger scheme of things.  Lads get in who flunked GCSEs etc. just to play football and do made-uppy courses.  Then they're out of the school.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 02, 2024, 11:58:01 AM
Sort of the reverse of what Enda Gormley was at 10-15 years ago. Stopped Glen minors playing for their school as they were preparing for the Ulster minor tournament.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on January 02, 2024, 12:27:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on January 02, 2024, 11:46:48 AMCollege football is very serious at the time but minor in the bigger scheme of things.  Lads get in who flunked GCSEs etc. just to play football and do made-uppy courses.  Then they're out of the school.

only in some schools at present,
exam results in others becoming more important ( newry schools i believe pushing exam results more than football)
tbf when I was at school it was all about the football but that was in the 80s 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LC on January 02, 2024, 01:28:21 PM
Quote from: naka on January 02, 2024, 12:27:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on January 02, 2024, 11:46:48 AMCollege football is very serious at the time but minor in the bigger scheme of things.  Lads get in who flunked GCSEs etc. just to play football and do made-uppy courses.  Then they're out of the school.

only in some schools at present,
exam results in others becoming more important ( newry schools i believe pushing exam results more than football)
tbf when I was at school it was all about the football but that was in the 80s 

Makes sense, when young fellas go for a mortgage down the line their job / salary will have more relevance than having played McRory football. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Armagh18 on January 02, 2024, 01:44:08 PM
Quote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 01:28:21 PM
Quote from: naka on January 02, 2024, 12:27:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on January 02, 2024, 11:46:48 AMCollege football is very serious at the time but minor in the bigger scheme of things.  Lads get in who flunked GCSEs etc. just to play football and do made-uppy courses.  Then they're out of the school.

only in some schools at present,
exam results in others becoming more important ( newry schools i believe pushing exam results more than football)
tbf when I was at school it was all about the football but that was in the 80s 

Makes sense, when young fellas go for a mortgage down the line their job / salary will have more relevance than having played McRory football.
In my experience they'll get put through a course for a level/equivalent that they'll definitely get into uni with. Suppose its up to themselves from there on.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 01:46:24 PM
If a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.

We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.


Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Armagh18 on January 02, 2024, 01:50:08 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 01:46:24 PMIf a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.

We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.



Know plenty of lads that were totally useless in school but stayed on because of football. Some of them ended up getting into uni through football then handy teaching jobs, some went to uni and wasted a year and ended up being useless later in life as well, some left uni went to a trade and are now earning great money. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:17:34 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 02, 2024, 01:50:08 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 01:46:24 PMIf a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.

We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.



Know plenty of lads that were totally useless in school but stayed on because of football. Some of them ended up getting into uni through football then handy teaching jobs, some went to uni and wasted a year and ended up being useless later in life as well, some left uni went to a trade and are now earning great money.

Very true some guys catch themselves on whereas others still in their 30s still live in the bubble they were in in their late teens / early 20s. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on January 02, 2024, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 01:46:24 PMIf a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.

We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.




Bit harsh that.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnnycool on January 02, 2024, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 01:46:24 PMIf a 17 year old cannot balance the needs of sport and academia and give both the attention needed, then he should just chuck in academia, as he's going to be useless later in life regardless.

We are so soft on kids these days. We are not doing them the favours we think we are.



We'd a few lads get university places based on UUJ's soaring stars or whatever it was called and Mageean Cup performances and they needed less entry points that you'd normally need to get onto a course.

If the raw materials aren't there to do the course then they're wasting their time, but I suppose no harm in giving it a go.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PM
It was alright in the 90s  going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications.  Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans.  Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on January 02, 2024, 03:00:39 PM
Quote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s  going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications.  Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans.  Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.

It's all relative.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LC on January 02, 2024, 03:35:38 PM
To a point.

However I think graduates nowadays are finding it more difficult / taking longer to get out from under student debt compared to years gone by.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on January 02, 2024, 04:17:33 PM
I always wondered about teachers persuading kids into returning for their A-Levels for the sole benefit of playing football, knowing fine well they are going to do nothing results wise, and are ultimately wasting years of their lives at school. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PM
If the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:

1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.

2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.

3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.

Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Armagh18 on January 02, 2024, 05:48:38 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:

1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.

2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.

3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.

Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.

Yeah spot on. No harm in lads pissing about for a year in uni tbh.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on January 03, 2024, 10:00:26 AM
Quote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s  going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications.  Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans.  Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.

Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:

1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.

2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.

3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.

Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.


Think the days of getting to stay in a school because of football is over. And fellas going to J'stown to do some bullshit course and play some football should catch themselves on as well. Most employers put CVs with J'stown degrees on them straight into the bin.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2024, 10:49:32 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2024, 10:00:26 AM
Quote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s  going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications.  Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans.  Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.

Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:

1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.

2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.

3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.

Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.


Think the days of getting to stay in a school because of football is over. And fellas going to J'stown to do some bullshit course and play some football should catch themselves on as well. Most employers put CVs with J'stown degrees on them straight into the bin.



That's just full of crap
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Armagh18 on January 03, 2024, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2024, 10:00:26 AM
Quote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s  going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications.  Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans.  Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.

Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:

1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.

2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.

3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.

Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.


Think the days of getting to stay in a school because of football is over. And fellas going to J'stown to do some bullshit course and play some football should catch themselves on as well. Most employers put CVs with J'stown degrees on them straight into the bin.


100% wrong lol
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: general_lee on January 03, 2024, 12:12:48 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 03, 2024, 12:01:22 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2024, 10:00:26 AM
Quote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s  going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications.  Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans.  Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.

Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:

1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.

2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.

3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.

Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.


Think the days of getting to stay in a school because of football is over. And fellas going to J'stown to do some bullshit course and play some football should catch themselves on as well. Most employers put CVs with J'stown degrees on them straight into the bin.


100% wrong lol
Degrees count for very little nowadays no matter where they're from.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on January 03, 2024, 12:18:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2024, 10:49:32 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 03, 2024, 10:00:26 AM
Quote from: LC on January 02, 2024, 02:54:48 PMIt was alright in the 90s  going to J'town and to f@=k about for a few years, kicking ball, changing courses and eventually leaving with no qualifications.  Worse case you would rack up £5k - £7k or thereabouts of student loans.  Different story these days in that if you undertake the same 'journey' you come out with nothing but £20k+ debt.

Quote from: thewobbler on January 02, 2024, 05:12:39 PMIf the GAA was to close down tomorrow, there'd still be:

1. Academically challenged lads staying on for A-Levels / leaving cert, because they're 16 years old and don't know what they want to do yet in life, and staying in school is both the best and least final decision for now.

2. Academically challenged young lads going to college for a few weeks/months or even a year, because they're 18 years old and don't know yet what they want to do in life. But they do gain a life experience and a bit of perspective.

3. Both academically challenged and academically suited young lads heading to college, for no other reason than to go partying for as long as they can get away with it, before they go into a trade, or a family firm, etc.

Reading some of the comments above though, you'd swear it was Gaelic Games was the driver.


Think the days of getting to stay in a school because of football is over. And fellas going to J'stown to do some bullshit course and play some football should catch themselves on as well. Most employers put CVs with J'stown degrees on them straight into the bin.



That's just full of crap

Ok they just delete them. Sorry pedantic pat.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2024, 12:40:01 PM
If an applicant meets the criteria they should be given an interview, as far as I know you can't have criteria that says degrees from this college is binned/deleted

Its been a while since I was interviewing people but can't remember that being on it..

What colleges degrees are you ok with?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on January 03, 2024, 01:44:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2024, 12:40:01 PMIf an applicant meets the criteria they should be given an interview, as far as I know you can't have criteria that says degrees from this college is binned/deleted

Its been a while since I was interviewing people but can't remember that being on it..

What colleges degrees are you ok with?

LOL.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Truth hurts on January 03, 2024, 03:29:02 PM
This weekend, will any Ulster school games be streamed?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnnycool on January 03, 2024, 05:05:26 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on January 03, 2024, 03:29:02 PMThis weekend, will any Ulster school games be streamed?

Mageean Cup final is to be streamed tonight if that helps.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on January 03, 2024, 05:25:35 PM
Where Jc? Ulster Gaa?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Saffrongael on January 03, 2024, 05:38:55 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 03, 2024, 05:25:35 PMWhere Jc? Ulster Gaa?

Yep

https://page.inplayer.com/ulstergaatv/item.html?id=3706732

£5
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lurganblue on January 05, 2024, 11:44:46 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on January 03, 2024, 03:29:02 PMThis weekend, will any Ulster school games be streamed?

I saw the Abbey posted that their game wouldnt be streamed tonight
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on January 05, 2024, 04:36:24 PM
A lot of Ulster School's tweets & GAA tweets in general are polluted by bots offering '4K HD Streaming'. I've no idea what these bot tweets achieve, can anybody enlighten me ::)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: SaffronSports on January 05, 2024, 08:49:14 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 05, 2024, 04:36:24 PMA lot of Ulster School's tweets & GAA tweets in general are polluted by bots offering '4K HD Streaming'. I've no idea what these bot tweets achieve, can anybody enlighten me ::)

They'll usually lead you to a fake site to put your bank details in and you'll get the stream of the match. I posted a few things about the Mageean Cup final on a Facebook page I have and the scum were all over it.

There was a replica of Ulster Schools GAA that actually tagged me in a post about the match. This thing looked bang on and it wasn't until I noticed it only had about 4 followers that I released it was the scammers. I was on the verge of sharing the thing. 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: statto on January 05, 2024, 11:21:30 PM
Abbey 2-9 st ronans 2-8.st ronans lost goalkeeper Liam Carroll in second half and that was a big turning point abbey got goal in next play.conal mcgeough (forkhill) looks a good prospect must got 2-3 or 2-4 played an unbelievable pass in first half too to create a goal chance which hit post.dont think abbey great overall.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: naka on January 06, 2024, 10:31:00 AM
Quote from: statto on January 05, 2024, 11:21:30 PMAbbey 2-9 st ronans 2-8.st ronans lost goalkeeper Liam Carroll in second half and that was a big turning point abbey got goal in next play.conal mcgeough (forkhill) looks a good prospect must got 2-3 or 2-4 played an unbelievable pass in first half too to create a goal chance which hit post.dont think abbey great overall.
Good result for the Abbey as team not fancied as such.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: general_lee on January 06, 2024, 10:40:32 AM
Quote from: naka on January 06, 2024, 10:31:00 AM
Quote from: statto on January 05, 2024, 11:21:30 PMAbbey 2-9 st ronans 2-8.st ronans lost goalkeeper Liam Carroll in second half and that was a big turning point abbey got goal in next play.conal mcgeough (forkhill) looks a good prospect must got 2-3 or 2-4 played an unbelievable pass in first half too to create a goal chance which hit post.dont think abbey great overall.
Good result for the Abbey as team not fancied as such.

Disappointing for St Ronan's, thought they'd have edged that with a few to sore. Abbey play Donaghmore next, didn't realise they were MacRory. Presume they're decent?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Targetman on January 06, 2024, 05:52:03 PM
St.Colmans beat, surely thats a surprise?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on January 06, 2024, 06:53:17 PM
Q/Fs
9-14th January

St Pats Maghera v St Mary's Magherafelt
Dungannon Academy v Carrickmacross
St Joe's Donaghmore v Abbey CBS
Omagh CBS v Blayney

4 'home' wins highly likely. AFAIK Abbey played Donaghmore in a warm up game and beat them, not that it will have any bearing on anything, but they'll not fear them.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: square_ball on January 11, 2024, 08:22:19 PM
Donaghmore giving Abbey a bit of a trimming so far. 4-7 to 0-3 at HT
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wolfetones on January 12, 2024, 12:41:59 AM
Quote from: square_ball on January 11, 2024, 08:22:19 PMDonaghmore giving Abbey a bit of a trimming so far. 4-7 to 0-3 at HT

Ended up about 5-10 to 1-6. Huge gap between the two teams. Poor enough floodlights for a night match. You'd expect both CBS Omagh and Academy Dungannon to win their quarter finals to leave 3 Tyrone teams and 1 Derry in the Semifinals. Maghera or CBS for outright honours.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2024, 07:23:54 AM
Seems like Tyrone school football is on the up again these last 2/3 years. The stats will probably contradict this but it felt there was a bit of a lull for a right few years in the county in terms of winning silverware in the MacRory.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on January 12, 2024, 10:07:42 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 12, 2024, 07:23:54 AMSeems like Tyrone school football is on the up again these last 2/3 years. The stats will probably contradict this but it felt there was a bit of a lull for a right few years in the county in terms of winning silverware in the MacRory.
Challenge Accepted
MacRory victories by county

2000 - 2010
CountyWin     Finalist
Tyrone   6     3
Armagh   1     0
Fermanagh   2     2
Down   2     2
Derry   1     1
Monaghan   0     2

2010 - 2023
CountyWin     Finalist
Tyrone   1     7
Armagh   1     2
Fermanagh   2     0
Down   2     1
Derry   6     2
Cavan1     0
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on January 12, 2024, 12:13:24 PM
Quote from: Wolfetones on January 12, 2024, 12:41:59 AM
Quote from: square_ball on January 11, 2024, 08:22:19 PMDonaghmore giving Abbey a bit of a trimming so far. 4-7 to 0-3 at HT

Ended up about 5-10 to 1-6. Huge gap between the two teams. Poor enough floodlights for a night match. You'd expect both CBS Omagh and Academy Dungannon to win their quarter finals to leave 3 Tyrone teams and 1 Derry in the Semifinals. Maghera or CBS for outright honours.
There will be nothing straight forward for Maghera against Magherafelt tonight. McDermott a massive loss for Maghera.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ClubScene13 on January 12, 2024, 05:16:00 PM
Progress made by Donaghmore at both club and school level is staggering. Heading into a MacRory semi final as favourites is some rise.

I don't know the names of all the cups but wouldn't they of been "third tier" at schools level not long ago?

The Academy and Donaghmore in a semi final would have some bite to it, would only be about 4 mile between the schools.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Mikhailov on January 12, 2024, 06:40:06 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on January 12, 2024, 05:16:00 PMProgress made by Donaghmore at both club and school level is staggering. Heading into a MacRory semi final as favourites is some rise.

I don't know the names of all the cups but wouldn't they of been "third tier" at schools level not long ago?

The Academy and Donaghmore in a semi final would have some bite to it, would only be about 4 mile between the schools.

Yes they were third tier but you have to consider that boys have only been admitted to the school in the last 20 years from what I hear (2002, I think)
That is some rise through the ranks but the Convent in Magherafelt done something similar in the 90's after they started to admit boys although admittedly they would have much bigger numbers.
Donaghmore at club level have been totally dominant at underage despite a small club but the big question is can they carry it through to adult level - the doubts will remain until some  progress is made but there is no guarantee.
Previously, other clubs have had strong underage teams and have not made that breakthrough so it won't be easy for Donaghmore who have had a very poor senior record in Tyrone.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on January 12, 2024, 06:54:50 PM
I would say that it's a generational team, noticed some of their younger teams back in a B or C grade game a while back - but long term they'll likely get to the top.

I remember posting last year that they should have been in the MacRory Cup (after playing Armagh in a warm up game I was at) but the chance of winning an Ulster title (McLarnon / B grade) as opposed to a 'good showing' in the MacRory was understandably too good to refuse.

Donaghmore v Dungannon would be worth the watching.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Saffrongael on January 12, 2024, 07:43:47 PM
Is McLarnon the B competition for MacRory age group ?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: TwoUpTwoDown on January 12, 2024, 07:48:04 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 12, 2024, 07:43:47 PMIs McLarnon the B competition for MacRory age group ?
Yeah since the amalgamation MacRory is A, McLarnon B and Markey C.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Norm-Peterson on January 12, 2024, 08:14:46 PM
I wonder who was the first county footballer to come out of my old school St Mary's Magherafelt? My first thought is Johnny McBride. There were no past pupils in the 1993 Derry team as far as I Know although St Pius Magherafelt had 2 past pupils. McCloskey was the first St Mary's past pupil to win an All Star.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on January 12, 2024, 08:33:15 PM
Quote from: Norm-Peterson on January 12, 2024, 08:14:46 PMI wonder who was the first county footballer to come out of my old school St Mary's Magherafelt? My first thought is Johnny McBride. There were no past pupils in the 1993 Derry team as far as I Know although St Pius Magherafelt had 2 past pupils. McCloskey was the first St Mary's past pupil to win an All Star.

I reckon maybe Seamus Shivers.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on January 12, 2024, 08:59:34 PM
St Mary's Magherafelt bt Maghera 1.6 to 1.4

Omagh bt Blayney 1.14 to 3.7

Hot favourites out
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wolfetones on January 12, 2024, 09:02:07 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 12, 2024, 12:13:24 PM
Quote from: Wolfetones on January 12, 2024, 12:41:59 AM
Quote from: square_ball on January 11, 2024, 08:22:19 PMDonaghmore giving Abbey a bit of a trimming so far. 4-7 to 0-3 at HT

Ended up about 5-10 to 1-6. Huge gap between the two teams. Poor enough floodlights for a night match. You'd expect both CBS Omagh and Academy Dungannon to win their quarter finals to leave 3 Tyrone teams and 1 Derry in the Semifinals. Maghera or CBS for outright honours.
There will be nothing straight forward for Maghera against Magherafelt tonight. McDermott a massive loss for Maghera.

Good call. CBS fell over the line against Blayney after being 8 up.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: screenexile on January 12, 2024, 09:35:58 PM
SMG la la la...

Horrible game but great result!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on January 12, 2024, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 12, 2024, 12:13:24 PM
Quote from: Wolfetones on January 12, 2024, 12:41:59 AM
Quote from: square_ball on January 11, 2024, 08:22:19 PMDonaghmore giving Abbey a bit of a trimming so far. 4-7 to 0-3 at HT

Ended up about 5-10 to 1-6. Huge gap between the two teams. Poor enough floodlights for a night match. You'd expect both CBS Omagh and Academy Dungannon to win their quarter finals to leave 3 Tyrone teams and 1 Derry in the Semifinals. Maghera or CBS for outright honours.
There will be nothing straight forward for Maghera against Magherafelt tonight. McDermott a massive loss for Maghera.
Called it.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Link on January 12, 2024, 09:51:52 PM
Maghera don't score for 29 minutes. Paul Hughes and Chrissy McKaigue masterclass.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Newbridge Exile on January 12, 2024, 10:17:01 PM
Sargent is a rollys Royce of player for the Convent , and still under 17 this year , Conal Higgins was excellent in the second half too
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: screenexile on January 12, 2024, 10:34:39 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on January 12, 2024, 10:17:01 PMSargent is a rollys Royce of player for the Convent , and still under 17 this year , Conal Higgins was excellent in the second half too

Sargent a 2 points at the end of hte first half were a lifeline for the Convent. Not scoring in the first half would have been a blow even if only 3pts down.

Higgins was bottled up well first half but took the goal really well in the second half.
Dara McPeake took his goal well too but they just couldn't kick on.

Johnny McGuckian won't have as bad a game again I'd say nothing went right for him at all!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 13, 2024, 01:36:22 AM
Declan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only had 50 boy intake per year for a long time.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: skeog on January 13, 2024, 09:07:12 AM
Does Chrissy mc Kaigue teach in Maghera?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Newbridge Exile on January 13, 2024, 09:19:45 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 13, 2024, 01:36:22 AMDeclan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 13, 2024, 01:36:22 AMDeclan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 13, 2024, 01:36:22 AMDeclan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.
Declan was my year at the convent and your probably right in what you say, back in 89 when Derry won the All Ireland minor there would only have been him and John Mulholland on the panel from memory , compare that to last year's minor team when they're was ten or eleven.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 13, 2024, 09:37:00 AM
Did big John not go to St Pius' ?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Newbridge Exile on January 13, 2024, 10:31:13 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 13, 2024, 09:37:00 AMDid big John not go to St Pius' ?
Starting to doubt myself Hoof but I think he can't to the convent after 5 th year for A levels
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 13, 2024, 10:48:50 AM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on January 13, 2024, 10:31:13 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 13, 2024, 09:37:00 AMDid big John not go to St Pius' ?
Starting to doubt myself Hoof but I think he can't to the convent after 5 th year for A levels

Could have alright but definitely remember him in that lovely purple and yellow uniform!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Jimmy on January 13, 2024, 12:13:20 PM
Quote from: skeog on January 13, 2024, 09:07:12 AMDoes Chrissy mc Kaigue teach in Maghera?

No, I think it's some sort of GPO set up that the school pay for.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LC on January 13, 2024, 12:19:00 PM
I thought his day job was coaching officer for his own club.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Kidder81 on January 13, 2024, 12:32:34 PM
Quote from: LC on January 13, 2024, 12:19:00 PMI thought his day job was coaching officer for his own club.

It is, this is obviously another job with maghera
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 13, 2024, 02:11:29 PM
Suppose there are no jobs in "the Bank" these days for county stars with all the branch closures.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: screenexile on January 13, 2024, 02:34:34 PM
Armagh with 44 lads on the panel... Jesus!!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: square_ball on January 13, 2024, 03:30:21 PM
What a kick there

https://x.com/ulsterschools/status/1746190612494254166?s=46

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on January 13, 2024, 10:05:15 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 13, 2024, 01:36:22 AMDeclan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.

Still going with Seamus Shivers.

3 December 1989

NFL Derry 3-5 Cork 4-12

Derry team: D McCusker; K McKeever, T Scullion, P O'Donnell; J McGurk (0-1), B McPeake (RIP), G McPeake; E Heaney, D Barton (0-1); S Shivers (1-1), PJ McCormack, M Berryman; R Scullion (2-2), L Devlin, J O'Neill. Subs: P Gribbin, E Gribbin.

Though I think maybe Barry Young from Glen also got an NFL game or two.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: GTP on January 13, 2024, 10:20:02 PM
Totally off topic but is that 4 of 7 all ireland winners in defence and goals conceding 4-12 and none of the squad in the forwards. Barton excluded as midfield.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on January 13, 2024, 10:23:03 PM
Quote from: GTP on January 13, 2024, 10:20:02 PMTotally off topic but is that 4 of 7 all ireland winners in defence and goals conceding 4-12 and none of the squad in the forwards. Barton excluded as midfield.


Didn't park the bus in them days.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on January 13, 2024, 10:25:07 PM
Rare name, Shivers.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 13, 2024, 10:56:35 PM
Big John Mulholland came to the Convent from St Pius.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Newbridge Exile on January 14, 2024, 12:19:08 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on January 13, 2024, 10:05:15 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 13, 2024, 01:36:22 AMDeclan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.

Still going with Seamus Shivers.

3 December 1989

NFL Derry 3-5 Cork 4-12

Derry team: D McCusker; K McKeever, T Scullion, P O'Donnell; J McGurk (0-1), B McPeake (RIP), G McPeake; E Heaney, D Barton (0-1); S Shivers (1-1), PJ McCormack, M Berryman; R Scullion (2-2), L Devlin, J O'Neill. Subs: P Gribbin, E Gribbin.

Though I think maybe Barry Young from Glen also got an NFL game or two.
Seamus was some servant for Castledawson ,in the 84 county final he lined out for then and was still under 16 from memory
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on January 15, 2024, 11:55:13 AM
High drama in the Academy Patrician game. Penalty shootout with the Academy coming out on top after 9 pens each. 3 or the 4 SF are Tyrone clubs. The Academy now face Donaghmore in a East Tyrone Showdown with Omagh taking on Magherafelt.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on January 16, 2024, 01:55:45 PM
Any word of the semis? If anywhere near I'd probably go and watch Donaghmore v Dungannon. Form lines there suggest a Donaghmore win but who knows in such a derby.

Cahir O'Kane gave Maghera v Magherafelt a bad review in his Irish News article today, a state of the football nation statement rather than a direct indictment of this particular game - a symptom rather than cause argument. Having been to 10 or so school games between Rannafast  & MacRory Cup this autumn/winter involving St Pats Armagh I can tell you that every single team I've watched plays the same way, there must be a coaching manual emailed out from the CCMS -  it is brutal to watch.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on January 16, 2024, 02:05:20 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 16, 2024, 01:55:45 PMAny word of the semis? If anywhere near I'd probably go and watch Donaghmore v Dungannon. Form lines there suggest a Donaghmore win but who knows in such a derby.

Chair O'Kane gave Maghera v Magherafelt a bad review in his Irish News article today, a state of the football nation statement rather than a direct indictment of this particular game - a symptom rather than cause argument. Having been to 10 or so school games between Rannafast  & MacRory Cup this autumn/winter involving St Pats Armagh I can tell you that every single team I've watched plays the same way, there must be a coaching manual emailed out from the CCMS -  it is brutal to watch.
Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm
St Joseph's Donaghmore V St Patrick's Academy Dungannon - Carrickmore 27/1/24 - tbc
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on January 16, 2024, 02:07:56 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 16, 2024, 01:55:45 PMAny word of the semis? If anywhere near I'd probably go and watch Donaghmore v Dungannon. Form lines there suggest a Donaghmore win but who knows in such a derby.

Chair O'Kane gave Maghera v Magherafelt a bad review in his Irish News article today, a state of the football nation statement rather than a direct indictment of this particular game - a symptom rather than cause argument. Having been to 10 or so school games between Rannafast  & MacRory Cup this autumn/winter involving St Pats Armagh I can tell you that every single team I've watched plays the same way, there must be a coaching manual emailed out from the CCMS -  it is brutal to watch.
Teams have to be set up these days. To not have a setup in place would be naive at this point. The problem comes with teams having a lack of attacking plan to break teams down, a lack of inventiveness, a lack of pace and drive, a lack of stretching the opposition lines. This is what separates the good coaches and teams from the pack.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on January 16, 2024, 02:39:28 PM
When two teams mirror each other with the defensive setup it's horrendous - beat example I can think of at county was 2014 AI final between Kerry and Donegal.

Those two derry teams have some great footballers between them too - as good as is about.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: shawshank on January 16, 2024, 03:40:15 PM
For me its the gap in the attacking coaching is the problem, not the defensive system.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on January 16, 2024, 03:51:53 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 16, 2024, 02:07:56 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 16, 2024, 01:55:45 PMAny word of the semis? If anywhere near I'd probably go and watch Donaghmore v Dungannon. Form lines there suggest a Donaghmore win but who knows in such a derby.

Chair O'Kane gave Maghera v Magherafelt a bad review in his Irish News article today, a state of the football nation statement rather than a direct indictment of this particular game - a symptom rather than cause argument. Having been to 10 or so school games between Rannafast  & MacRory Cup this autumn/winter involving St Pats Armagh I can tell you that every single team I've watched plays the same way, there must be a coaching manual emailed out from the CCMS -  it is brutal to watch.
Teams have to be set up these days. To not have a setup in place would be naive at this point. The problem comes with teams having a lack of attacking plan to break teams down, a lack of inventiveness, a lack of pace and drive, a lack of stretching the opposition lines. This is what separates the good coaches and teams from the pack.

I agree to an extent but it's also a self perpetuating fallacy, sort of the point Cahir was making, if everyone is doing it it becomes the orthodoxy (& we're well past that stage now). Plus in tight games of this nature the quality players come to the fore - they always do & will - in spite of the system that is looking them to be robots.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on January 16, 2024, 04:00:44 PM
Quote from: shawshank on January 16, 2024, 03:40:15 PMFor me its the gap in the attacking coaching is the problem, not the defensive system.

It's so much harder to to the attacking plan. Donegal 2011 vs 2012 - it took a year for a county team training god knows how much to perfect defense and attack. The defense is easier but I think the attack takes time and the likes of school teams etc are never going to have that time tbh.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Silver hill on January 16, 2024, 09:29:48 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on January 14, 2024, 12:19:08 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on January 13, 2024, 10:05:15 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 13, 2024, 01:36:22 AMDeclan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.

Still going with Seamus Shivers.

3 December 1989

NFL Derry 3-5 Cork 4-12

Derry team: D McCusker; K McKeever, T Scullion, P O'Donnell; J McGurk (0-1), B McPeake (RIP), G McPeake; E Heaney, D Barton (0-1); S Shivers (1-1), PJ McCormack, M Berryman; R Scullion (2-2), L Devlin, J O'Neill. Subs: P Gribbin, E Gribbin.

Though I think maybe Barry Young from Glen also got an NFL game or two.
Seamus was some servant for Castledawson ,in the 84 county final he lined out for then and was still under 16 from memory

Yes NBE, Think he had just turned 15. John Somers denied him a certain goal with a brilliant save down to his right in the top goals at Greenlough. Dawson had a great side then, unlucky not to get a championship at that time. Mackle, Keenans, Mckees, backboned them from memory.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: onefineday on January 17, 2024, 12:37:25 AM
Quote from: shawshank on January 16, 2024, 03:40:15 PMFor me its the gap in the attacking coaching is the problem, not the defensive system.
So maybe we change the rules to make the sport attractive to play in and watch again.
Defence is usually easier, that's why so many other sports tweak rules on an ongoing basis to help the sport retain its appeal for players and spectators.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ClubScene13 on January 17, 2024, 10:00:31 AM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 16, 2024, 02:05:20 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 16, 2024, 01:55:45 PMAny word of the semis? If anywhere near I'd probably go and watch Donaghmore v Dungannon. Form lines there suggest a Donaghmore win but who knows in such a derby.

Chair O'Kane gave Maghera v Magherafelt a bad review in his Irish News article today, a state of the football nation statement rather than a direct indictment of this particular game - a symptom rather than cause argument. Having been to 10 or so school games between Rannafast  & MacRory Cup this autumn/winter involving St Pats Armagh I can tell you that every single team I've watched plays the same way, there must be a coaching manual emailed out from the CCMS -  it is brutal to watch.
Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm
St Joseph's Donaghmore V St Patrick's Academy Dungannon - Carrickmore 27/1/24 - tbc

Thanks for this GWC, can you post confirmation when you hear it? Ulster Schools very slow at posting these things they're website doesn't be up to date that often
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LC on January 17, 2024, 10:32:58 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 16, 2024, 01:55:45 PMAny word of the semis? If anywhere near I'd probably go and watch Donaghmore v Dungannon. Form lines there suggest a Donaghmore win but who knows in such a derby.

Cahir O'Kane gave Maghera v Magherafelt a bad review in his Irish News article today, a state of the football nation statement rather than a direct indictment of this particular game - a symptom rather than cause argument. Having been to 10 or so school games between Rannafast  & MacRory Cup this autumn/winter involving St Pats Armagh I can tell you that every single team I've watched plays the same way, there must be a coaching manual emailed out from the CCMS -  it is brutal to watch.

Cahir highlighted the Stevie O'Neil points scored years ago against Kildare, you would never see that now and he is 100% correct.  Thank God for David Clifford in recent years.  Hard to know if we will ever see footballers like the Gooch, Mugsy and Ciaran McDonald again, they are out there but the issue could be the time they become senior their natural talent and flair is coached out of them and / or they could just get fed up.  Saw McDonald's young boy playing last year, definitely one for the future.

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2024, 10:38:20 AM
Teams/coaches players are too afraid to lose/shoot/attack

Watching players run past a opposition player with the ball to get 'into position' is fecking nuts

The game only opens up in the final quarter when teams have to try and win it
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Keyser soze on January 17, 2024, 11:00:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2024, 10:38:20 AMTeams/coaches players are too afraid to lose/shoot/attack

Watching players run past a opposition player with the ball to get 'into position' is fecking nuts

The game only opens up in the final quarter when teams have to try and win it

It sure is....if you nothing about football.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 12:01:07 PM
Confirmed
Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm - Referee: Martin McNally
St Joseph's Donaghmore V St Patrick's Academy Dungannon - Carrickmore 27/1/24 - 2:00pm - Referee: Paul Falloon
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 02:58:39 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 12:01:07 PMConfirmed
Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm - Referee: Martin McNally
St Joseph's Donaghmore V St Patrick's Academy Dungannon - Carrickmore 27/1/24 - 2:00pm - Referee: Paul Falloon

Not sure why but the Omagh and Magherafelt game has been changed to Monday 22nd at 12:00, still in Coalisland.
Very disappointing to see a MacRory Cup Semi Final being played at such a time.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ClubScene13 on January 18, 2024, 03:08:46 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 02:58:39 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 12:01:07 PMConfirmed
Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm - Referee: Martin McNally
St Joseph's Donaghmore V St Patrick's Academy Dungannon - Carrickmore 27/1/24 - 2:00pm - Referee: Paul Falloon

Not sure why but the Omagh and Magherafelt game has been changed to Monday 22nd at 12:00, still in Coalisland.
Very disappointing to see a MacRory Cup Semi Final being played at such a time.

Cheers again GWC good man. That is bizzare, but I seen Niall Kelly (Donaghmore manager) interviewed after their Quarter Final and he had mentioned that particular game being moved to the Thursday night due to a ski trip the Donaghmore lads were on. Just shows you the vast number of reasons a school game would potentially need moved.

Even still, Monday at 12 surely not the answer.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: GTP on January 18, 2024, 03:25:33 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 02:58:39 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 12:01:07 PMConfirmed
Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm - Referee: Martin McNally
St Joseph's Donaghmore V St Patrick's Academy Dungannon - Carrickmore 27/1/24 - 2:00pm - Referee: Paul Falloon

Not sure why but the Omagh and Magherafelt game has been changed to Monday 22nd at 12:00, still in Coalisland.
Very disappointing to see a MacRory Cup Semi Final being played at such a time.

Ulster Schools GAA X (Twitter) account still has it at 7:30pm on Friday 26 January at Coalisland. McLarnon Cup Q Finals listed for 12pm Monday 22 January.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Onthe40 on January 18, 2024, 03:51:36 PM
there's no way the ulster colleges committee will play that game at 12 on a Monday...that would attract 4-5000 next Friday night..too big a purse to lose out on
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: TwoUpTwoDown on January 18, 2024, 04:45:29 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on January 18, 2024, 03:51:36 PMthere's no way the ulster colleges committee will play that game at 12 on a Monday...that would attract 4-5000 next Friday night..too big a purse to lose out on
Yeah not a hope it is being played on Monday. Even if they went a midweek night it would attract a decent crowd. I see they have Markey Cup final for a midweek day too, I thought all finals in senior levels had to be evening or weekend?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 04:49:26 PM
Quote from: GTP on January 18, 2024, 03:25:33 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 02:58:39 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 12:01:07 PMConfirmed
Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm - Referee: Martin McNally
St Joseph's Donaghmore V St Patrick's Academy Dungannon - Carrickmore 27/1/24 - 2:00pm - Referee: Paul Falloon

Not sure why but the Omagh and Magherafelt game has been changed to Monday 22nd at 12:00, still in Coalisland.
Very disappointing to see a MacRory Cup Semi Final being played at such a time.

Ulster Schools GAA X (Twitter) account still has it at 7:30pm on Friday 26 January at Coalisland. McLarnon Cup Q Finals listed for 12pm Monday 22 January.
Post about Omagh and Magherafelt on the Monday has since been deleted. Must have been a mix up in the graphics department.
In saying that Ulster Colleges could do with reforming their website. Very poor fixtures and results pages at all levels.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: TwoUpTwoDown on January 18, 2024, 04:58:05 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 04:49:26 PM
Quote from: GTP on January 18, 2024, 03:25:33 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 02:58:39 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 18, 2024, 12:01:07 PMConfirmed
Omagh CBS V St Mary's Magherafelt - Coalisland 26/1/24 - 7:30pm - Referee: Martin McNally
St Joseph's Donaghmore V St Patrick's Academy Dungannon - Carrickmore 27/1/24 - 2:00pm - Referee: Paul Falloon

Not sure why but the Omagh and Magherafelt game has been changed to Monday 22nd at 12:00, still in Coalisland.
Very disappointing to see a MacRory Cup Semi Final being played at such a time.

Ulster Schools GAA X (Twitter) account still has it at 7:30pm on Friday 26 January at Coalisland. McLarnon Cup Q Finals listed for 12pm Monday 22 January.
Post about Omagh and Magherafelt on the Monday has since been deleted. Must have been a mix up in the graphics department.
In saying that Ulster Colleges could do with reforming their website. Very poor fixtures and results pages at all levels.
Yeah have been saying this for years. Surely a simple list of weekly fixtures shouldn't be hard to put together? There's a lot of school fixtures every week and I'm sure a few  neutrals would love to go see some of them.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on January 18, 2024, 06:36:02 PM
I understand that earlier rounds in competitions are played on a ad-hoc basis, primarily around pitch availabilty etc.

But from quarter-finals on, they should be pencilled in on the website.

I'd say the Ulster Colleges GAA PR etc. is voluntary. I wouldn't think they have any paid employess, have they?

S. Mc Aleenan does a great job with the reports for the media. Really good across all grades or all codes and really knowledgeable also.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on January 18, 2024, 07:26:44 PM
I rarely go to the website, twitter is normally pretty good
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ranch on January 19, 2024, 06:12:21 PM
Anywhere to find fixtures for the upcoming D'alton cup?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Onthe40 on January 19, 2024, 10:10:16 PM
Good to see St Malachys back playing a level colleges.. any reports how they getting on in the Oisin McGrath? 
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 19, 2024, 10:17:02 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on January 19, 2024, 10:10:16 PMGood to see St Malachys back playing a level colleges.. any reports how they getting on in the Oisin McGrath? 
Be interesting. They won the C competition last year which they should never have been in and decided to entirely bypass the B competition.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: GTP on January 26, 2024, 08:44:31 AM
For tonight's semi final does Coalisland have a covered stand or terracing for spectators?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on January 26, 2024, 08:46:58 AM
Quote from: GTP on January 26, 2024, 08:44:31 AMFor tonight's semi final does Coalisland have a covered stand or terracing for spectators?

Small covered stand.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: square_ball on January 26, 2024, 08:59:08 AM
Quote from: GTP on January 26, 2024, 08:44:31 AMFor tonight's semi final does Coalisland have a covered stand or terracing for spectators?

You'd also be as well parking at the bottom of the hill at the hall there or in the town and dandering up. It was mayhem around the pitch for the quarter final held there a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: GTP on January 26, 2024, 11:04:49 AM
Thanks for the information
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wolfetones on January 26, 2024, 11:04:31 PM
Omagh just about get over the line again and didn't play particularly well. Magherafelt missed a few goal chances that came back to haunt them in the end. Although 3 points down around the 60 minutes mark and everyone behind the ball maybe they didn't deserve anything from the game.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: GTP on January 27, 2024, 09:26:09 AM
Quote from: Wolfetones on January 26, 2024, 11:04:31 PMOmagh just about get over the line again and didn't play particularly well. Magherafelt missed a few goal chances that came back to haunt them in the end. Although 3 points down around the 60 minutes mark and everyone behind the ball maybe they didn't deserve anything from the game.
They scored two points and missed a good enough opportunity to equalise from that position. Omagh sat back to defend  their lead high balls in or throwing men forward may have worked but given the way the game was going more likely Omagh turnover the ball eat up time and maybe grab another score. Hindsight would say pop the ball over the bar for a point with some of the goal chances but at the time it looked like St Mary's needed a goal to get back into the game. The two conceded will hurt as well.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 27, 2024, 10:54:15 AM
An issue with injury time?
Heard that Magherafelt line were roaring on to their players that there were 4 minutes to be played but it was blown up after 2.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: NotedObserver on January 27, 2024, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 27, 2024, 10:54:15 AMAn issue with injury time?
Heard that Magherafelt line were roaring on to their players that there were 4 minutes to be played but it was blown up after 2.

Tv I think showed that there was 4 mins played
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on January 27, 2024, 02:39:51 PM
1.5 to 0.6 to Dungannon at ht, late goal gives them the lead, but with my unbiased Armagh eye I think Donaghmore look like they have a lot more about them than Dungannon, still have to get it over the line tho. Donaghmore to have a breeze in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: reddgnhand on January 27, 2024, 03:11:46 PM
Referee trying his best to ruin yhe game. Let it flow ye bollocks.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on January 27, 2024, 03:14:35 PM
He is a tube

Edit: ref is a total bollix. Buying everything
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: square_ball on January 27, 2024, 03:26:07 PM
Co-commentator some tube as well.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on January 27, 2024, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: square_ball on January 27, 2024, 03:26:07 PMCo-commentator some tube as well.

Mattie McGleenan.

Dungannon a bit cuter when it counted. I'd be sore with the ref if I was a Donaghmore  supporter, some serious soft frees.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: square_ball on January 27, 2024, 04:06:37 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 27, 2024, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: square_ball on January 27, 2024, 03:26:07 PMCo-commentator some tube as well.

Mattie McGleenan.

Dungannon a bit cuter when it counted. I'd be sore with the ref if I was a Donaghmore  supporter, some serious soft frees.

Few near the end were very soft. Also played an advantage for a foul on Grimes were Donaghmore didn't get any advantage whatsoever and didn't get bring it back.

In saying that I only seen the 2nd half and thought Dungannon were just about the better team from what I seen.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Mikhailov on January 27, 2024, 04:38:12 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 27, 2024, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: square_ball on January 27, 2024, 03:26:07 PMCo-commentator some tube as well.

Mattie McGleenan.

Dungannon a bit cuter when it counted. I'd be sore with the ref if I was a Donaghmore  supporter, some serious soft frees.

Referee shocking for both teams. Donaghmore got some very handy frees in first half then Dungannon got them second half

The advantage rule is a nightmare and the referee application of it differs from game to game.

Sometimes they pull it back, sometimes they let it go with (no advantage accruing) - crazy.

Today, referee gave arm up signal in the second half for Dungannon, player played on and played great pass to a player on edge of the D. Ref pulls it back to outside the 45' !!!

Then the Grimes one as mentioned above was poor decision as well at a vital part of the game

Hopefully he is not refereeing a league game tomorrow somewhere - he blew every bit of contact all day long - stop start and no flow to the game at all
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: statto on January 27, 2024, 04:42:21 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on January 27, 2024, 04:38:12 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 27, 2024, 03:33:12 PM
Quote from: square_ball on January 27, 2024, 03:26:07 PMCo-commentator some tube as well.

Mattie McGleenan.

Dungannon a bit cuter when it counted. I'd be sore with the ref if I was a Donaghmore  supporter, some serious soft frees.

Referee shocking for both teams. Donaghmore got some very handy frees in first half then Dungannon got them second half

The advantage rule is a nightmare and the referee application of it differs from game to game.

Sometimes they pull it back, sometimes they let it go with (no advantage accruing) - crazy.

Today, referee gave arm up signal in the second half for Dungannon, player played on and played great pass to a player on edge of the D. Ref pulls it back to outside the 45' !!!

Then the Grimes one as mentioned above was poor decision as well at a vital part of the game

Hopefully he is not refereeing a league game tomorrow somewhere - he blew every bit of contact all day long - stop start and no flow to the game at all
Big win for Dungannon as Donaghmore would have been more impressive coming into the game.Was always going to be tight given the familiarity between the players.Would expect Omagh be warm favourites for two in a row.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on January 29, 2024, 10:16:27 AM
Felt the ref very fussy in SPAD V SJD game. Far, far to whistle happy and gave some very soft frees. Hughes in MF had a monster game for SPAD. Young Grimes probably the pick of the SJD players. A real threat and one to watch for the future.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: God14 on January 29, 2024, 01:47:29 PM
Both Academy midfielders were excellent - Hughes was a prominent threat, reliable from frees, but i thought their No. 9 was even better. Cant mind his name now. Lost count of how many clean kick outs he won, always an outlet on the Academy kickouts. Liam McGeary showed very well too in the SPAD attack
Agree on Noah Grimes, fantastic prospect. One to watch with Tyrone U20s this year

It was a really enjoyable semi final - especially when you consider that not that long ago, both these sets of players would have in all likelihood have been playing for the Academy. If Omagh CBS do indeed lift this years McRory cup, the emergence of Donaghmore convent taking boys in has cost the Academy a McRory.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on January 29, 2024, 03:02:10 PM
Quote from: God14 on January 29, 2024, 01:47:29 PMBoth Academy midfielders were excellent - Hughes was a prominent threat, reliable from frees, but i thought their No. 9 was even better. Cant mind his name now. Lost count of how many clean kick outs he won, always an outlet on the Academy kickouts. Liam McGeary showed very well too in the SPAD attack
Agree on Noah Grimes, fantastic prospect. One to watch with Tyrone U20s this year

It was a really enjoyable semi final - especially when you consider that not that long ago, both these sets of players would have in all likelihood have been playing for the Academy. If Omagh CBS do indeed lift this years McRory cup, the emergence of Donaghmore convent taking boys in has cost the Academy a McRory.
Hughes has a fantastic strike on him for free kicks. Massive asset having a player who can do that. He played the majority of the game as full forward, so disagree with his impact at midfield. The number nine Dillon O'Neill had a very good game but shades of Holy Trinity last year as he is 19 years old playing against players one or two years younger than himself. Grimes is a great prospect but he will have better days on the football field, his 1-01 showcased his talent but he was also guilty of some very poor shots throughout the game. Ultimately what cost Donaghmore was the number 15 Corrigan blazing a goal chance over the bar when he had a simple chance to square the ball for a palm to the empty net second half, he puts that across and Donaghmore go three up they would've pushed clear. Joey Clarke the best for Donaghmore, even though the referee was very very harsh on him. CBS have a great chance of back to back MacRory's but they have struggled with teams who have superior size and Dungannon would be quite a bit bigger than Omagh, so 50/50 game.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on January 29, 2024, 03:49:56 PM
Quote from: God14 on January 29, 2024, 01:47:29 PMBoth Academy midfielders were excellent - Hughes was a prominent threat, reliable from frees, but i thought their No. 9 was even better. Cant mind his name now. Lost count of how many clean kick outs he won, always an outlet on the Academy kickouts. Liam McGeary showed very well too in the SPAD attack
Agree on Noah Grimes, fantastic prospect. One to watch with Tyrone U20s this year

It was a really enjoyable semi final - especially when you consider that not that long ago, both these sets of players would have in all likelihood have been playing for the Academy. If Omagh CBS do indeed lift this years McRory cup, the emergence of Donaghmore convent taking boys in has cost the Academy a McRory.

Very true RE: the emergence of SJD. HTC as well. Historically those lads would all have been open to SPAD and certainly Father Faul would have ensured any talented players got a "football scholarship"
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PM
Abbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:36:09 PM
I wouldn't have thought so no... what makes you say that? If they were they'd win a lot more than they do at ulster level.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Mikhailov on January 29, 2024, 06:01:22 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on January 29, 2024, 03:02:10 PM
Quote from: God14 on January 29, 2024, 01:47:29 PMBoth Academy midfielders were excellent - Hughes was a prominent threat, reliable from frees, but i thought their No. 9 was even better. Cant mind his name now. Lost count of how many clean kick outs he won, always an outlet on the Academy kickouts. Liam McGeary showed very well too in the SPAD attack
Agree on Noah Grimes, fantastic prospect. One to watch with Tyrone U20s this year

It was a really enjoyable semi final - especially when you consider that not that long ago, both these sets of players would have in all likelihood have been playing for the Academy. If Omagh CBS do indeed lift this years McRory cup, the emergence of Donaghmore convent taking boys in has cost the Academy a McRory.
Hughes has a fantastic strike on him for free kicks. Massive asset having a player who can do that. He played the majority of the game as full forward, so disagree with his impact at midfield. The number nine Dillon O'Neill had a very good game but shades of Holy Trinity last year as he is 19 years old playing against players one or two years younger than himself. Grimes is a great prospect but he will have better days on the football field, his 1-01 showcased his talent but he was also guilty of some very poor shots throughout the game. Ultimately what cost Donaghmore was the number 15 Corrigan blazing a goal chance over the bar when he had a simple chance to square the ball for a palm to the empty net second half, he puts that across and Donaghmore go three up they would've pushed clear. Joey Clarke the best for Donaghmore, even though the referee was very very harsh on him. CBS have a great chance of back to back MacRory's but they have struggled with teams who have superior size and Dungannon would be quite a bit bigger than Omagh, so 50/50 game.

Agree on Joey Clarke. I felt he was the best player on the pitch and the referee was sore on him particularly on one occasion mid way through the second half at a crucial stage.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnnycool on January 30, 2024, 12:59:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

12 of the starting 15 were four masters and another 8 in the subs.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: J70 on February 06, 2024, 09:20:11 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 30, 2024, 12:59:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

12 of the starting 15 were four masters and another 8 in the subs.

AVS would draw most of their student body from Four Masters and parts of the St Nauls and Naomh Brid clubs. Usually I'd be surprised there's not more St Nauls players in there, but Four Masters have an extremely strong minor set-up at the moment, as anyone watching the Ulster club underage the last couple of years would know.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?

Nope - same ages.

There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: johnnycool on February 06, 2024, 05:02:36 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?

Nope - same ages.

There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)

I think it's down as an U19 competition but realistically unless someone is doing a resit most upper 6th or whatever it's called now would be U18.5
Could be the same in the 26, I don't know
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on February 07, 2024, 09:33:08 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on February 06, 2024, 05:02:36 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?

Nope - same ages.

There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)

I think it's down as an U19 competition but realistically unless someone is doing a resit most upper 6th or whatever it's called now would be U18.5
Could be the same in the 26, I don't know


Its Under 19 for that reason and they rejigged the playing rules for the MacRory this year, regarding Yr 15 students (Repeat U6th students). 
If you have decided to repeat your final year in secondary school, you can only play MacRory Cup football if you are returning to the same school that you completed the previous 7 years in. Cuts out any school recruiting students/footballers who have left school, but could still play another year of MacRory Cup.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: clarshack on February 07, 2024, 10:11:07 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?

Nope - same ages.

There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)

can remember Dungannon Academy in 1991 losing players for the Hogan Semi due to a 6 month difference rule.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2024, 10:17:15 AM
Maghera lost a few late 90s too. (Plus suspensions from that bug fight too haha)
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Taylor on February 07, 2024, 10:18:15 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?

Nope - same ages.

There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)

Maybe my mind is playing tricks but I always thought the rule DIDNT favour Ulster teams and they used to lose players when they went to the Hogan
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on February 07, 2024, 10:20:59 AM
Quote from: Taylor on February 07, 2024, 10:18:15 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?

Nope - same ages.

There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)

Maybe my mind is playing tricks but I always thought the rule DIDNT favour Ulster teams and they used to lose players when they went to the Hogan
Yes,definitely used to be that way, not sure when it was equalised.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: the_daddy on February 07, 2024, 10:25:52 AM
MacRory was u18.5 & Hogan was minor for many years but they all when to 18.5 at some stage and I'm not sure when it changed, presumably the 90s. The transition year in the South gives three years in the leaving cert cycle in some cases so this is why there's the perception of them having the year extra.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ClubScene13 on February 07, 2024, 11:16:50 AM
How heavy are Omagh CBS favoured on Sunday? Are they just edging it or are they expected to win by 4 or 5+?

It's a long time from the Academy made any noise at MacRory, only getting badly beaten in the 2015 final since the great generation from 2008-2011
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: barelegs on February 07, 2024, 12:48:10 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 07, 2024, 11:16:50 AMHow heavy are Omagh CBS favoured on Sunday? Are they just edging it or are they expected to win by 4 or 5+?

It's a long time from the Academy made any noise at MacRory, only getting badly beaten in the 2015 final since the great generation from 2008-2011

Was just thinking about the 2015 final earlier. Academy team had Michael McKernan, Brian Kennedy, Conn Kilpatrick, Ciaran Higgins (Armagh) and a number of former county panelists Liam Rafferty, Daniel Kerr, Ryan Coleman and beat a decent Maghera team in the semi final in Ballinderry but didn't turn up for the final.

Omagh probably deserving favourites and have players that have been there and done it. Might be a year early for Dungannon but you never know. This year's Rannafast team would be fancied to make an impression over next two years.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ClubScene13 on February 07, 2024, 04:03:54 PM
Quote from: barelegs on February 07, 2024, 12:48:10 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 07, 2024, 11:16:50 AMHow heavy are Omagh CBS favoured on Sunday? Are they just edging it or are they expected to win by 4 or 5+?

It's a long time from the Academy made any noise at MacRory, only getting badly beaten in the 2015 final since the great generation from 2008-2011

Was just thinking about the 2015 final earlier. Academy team had Michael McKernan, Brian Kennedy, Conn Kilpatrick, Ciaran Higgins (Armagh) and a number of former county panelists Liam Rafferty, Daniel Kerr, Ryan Coleman and beat a decent Maghera team in the semi final in Ballinderry but didn't turn up for the final.

Omagh probably deserving favourites and have players that have been there and done it. Might be a year early for Dungannon but you never know. This year's Rannafast team would be fancied to make an impression over next two years.


I think Paul Donaghy and Armagh's Ben Crealey were on the bench for that team as well. In fairness, most the lads you named were a year young in 2015. It's 2016 were they really missed the boat, losing a semi narrowly to Maghera
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on February 07, 2024, 08:32:29 PM
I think Aidan & Steffan Forker of Maghery both went to the Academy as well, could have been around 08-11 era.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: onefineday on February 08, 2024, 01:38:29 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 06, 2024, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 29, 2024, 05:18:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2024, 05:10:19 PMAbbey winning 16-3 in the mclarnon. They're supposed to be backboned by four masters players so are probably very strong.

Are the schools in the 26, kids a year older?

Nope - same ages.

There used to be a 6 month difference years back that favoured Ulster (all nine from what I recall/not just the six)
Free state secondary only needs to be 5 years after 8 years primary. That was the norm until probably 10-15 years ago, now majority of secondary is 6 years as they include transition year, which is an additional year thrown in to mess around in and find themselves after junior cert and before the leaving cert syllabus starts - seems like great craic tbf

Anyway, long and short of it is that it's now pretty even and we rarely see 16yo Donegal students as college freshers anymore.

!
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ClubScene13 on February 09, 2024, 09:47:31 AM
Omagh's best player a Loughmacrory man for the second year in a row, that's a club making big strides
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on February 09, 2024, 10:38:01 AM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 09, 2024, 09:47:31 AMOmagh's best player a Loughmacrory man for the second year in a row, that's a club making big strides
Omagh's best player is an Omagh man. Callum Daly at Centre Half Back is their best player followed by Ruairi McCullagh, Charlie Donnelly, Eoin Donaghy and Nathan Farry, strong argument could be made that he was also their best player last year. McElholm certainly had the biggest reputation last year but their were a number of players who outperformed him over the course of the season - Owens, Daly, McCullagh, Donnelly, Donaghy, Farry all had better campaigns.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Mikhailov on February 11, 2024, 01:59:16 PM
What tv channel is the game on?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: square_ball on February 11, 2024, 03:09:46 PM
Camera angle is all over the place on BBC. Just use the wide camera angle.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on February 11, 2024, 03:30:07 PM
Entertaining game so far, Falloon  letting it flow
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ClubScene13 on February 11, 2024, 03:37:35 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on February 09, 2024, 10:38:01 AM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 09, 2024, 09:47:31 AMOmagh's best player a Loughmacrory man for the second year in a row, that's a club making big strides
Omagh's best player is an Omagh man. Callum Daly at Centre Half Back is their best player followed by Ruairi McCullagh, Charlie Donnelly, Eoin Donaghy and Nathan Farry, strong argument could be made that he was also their best player last year. McElholm certainly had the biggest reputation last year but their were a number of players who outperformed him over the course of the season - Owens, Daly, McCullagh, Donnelly, Donaghy, Farry all had better campaigns.

Yeah it looks like Ruairi McCullagh from where I'm sitting
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Mikhailov on February 11, 2024, 03:56:34 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 11, 2024, 03:37:35 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on February 09, 2024, 10:38:01 AM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 09, 2024, 09:47:31 AMOmagh's best player a Loughmacrory man for the second year in a row, that's a club making big strides
Omagh's best player is an Omagh man. Callum Daly at Centre Half Back is their best player followed by Ruairi McCullagh, Charlie Donnelly, Eoin Donaghy and Nathan Farry, strong argument could be made that he was also their best player last year. McElholm certainly had the biggest reputation last year but their were a number of players who outperformed him over the course of the season - Owens, Daly, McCullagh, Donnelly, Donaghy, Farry all had better campaigns.

Yeah it looks like Ruairi McCullagh from where I'm sitting

Farry, Daly and Donnelly have been very impressive. McCullagh has been wasteful, appears to be very greedy but this only my second time seeing him play so I will reserve judgment
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on February 11, 2024, 03:56:59 PM
Where did the commentary go??
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ClubScene13 on February 11, 2024, 03:59:57 PM
Embarrassing from BBCSNI from start to finish here.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on February 11, 2024, 04:00:40 PM
Sack that Dan bollix
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Mikhailov on February 11, 2024, 04:21:18 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 11, 2024, 04:00:40 PMSack that Dan bollix

😃😃
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: skeog on February 11, 2024, 04:36:19 PM
Callum Daly looks a prospect cool calm and collected as they say.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: RedHand88 on February 11, 2024, 05:26:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 11, 2024, 03:56:59 PMWhere did the commentary go??

Don't know if it was technical difficulties but there seemed to be big periods of silence.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on February 11, 2024, 06:15:38 PM
Omagh pulled away at the end but I didn't think they were streets ahead of Dungannon as Niblock and Morgan constantly were laying on thick, DG got level with about 10 to go then a goalkeeping error let Omagh back in front and really killed DG.

Fair play to young Holmes on the DG side, a great performance,the same lad was carried off in the semi with an injury I thought looked bad (obviously not that bad). The other wing back Neeson had a great game too, but you could have driven a bus down the Dungannon CHB channel for most of the game. Overall i thought it was a quality contest but still plenty of mistakes from both sides.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on February 11, 2024, 09:11:27 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 11, 2024, 05:26:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 11, 2024, 03:56:59 PMWhere did the commentary go??

Don't know if it was technical difficulties but there seemed to be big periods of silence.

Yeah they said technical difficulties and apologised for it. You could even faintly hear the commentary in the background.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on February 12, 2024, 09:15:47 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 11, 2024, 06:15:38 PMOmagh pulled away at the end but I didn't think they were streets ahead of Dungannon as Niblock and Morgan constantly were laying on thick, DG got level with about 10 to go then a goalkeeping error let Omagh back in front and really killed DG.

Fair play to young Holmes on the DG side, a great performance,the same lad was carried off in the semi with an injury I thought looked bad (obviously not that bad). The other wing back Neeson had a great game too, but you could have driven a bus down the Dungannon CHB channel for most of the game. Overall i thought it was a quality contest but still plenty of mistakes from both sides.

Good game. Felt Dgn def closer but the goal they conceded was a killer. Holmes probably best on show for Dgn with 6 also putting in a good shift. Young McKeown(?) from Ardboe no. 12 had a good game as well. Dgn missed a open goal in 1st half and that might have put a different complexion on the game.
Omagh have some very talented lads. 6 definitely one for the future. 8 also had an excellent game. They worked the same kickout over and over and Dgn still couldn't stop it. Picked off their points well.

If you put those two teams and Donaghmore together there is some talent in Tyrone. Hopefully the county can bring them through.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: God14 on February 12, 2024, 09:59:01 AM
Quote from: trailer on February 12, 2024, 09:15:47 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 11, 2024, 06:15:38 PMOmagh pulled away at the end but I didn't think they were streets ahead of Dungannon as Niblock and Morgan constantly were laying on thick, DG got level with about 10 to go then a goalkeeping error let Omagh back in front and really killed DG.

Fair play to young Holmes on the DG side, a great performance,the same lad was carried off in the semi with an injury I thought looked bad (obviously not that bad). The other wing back Neeson had a great game too, but you could have driven a bus down the Dungannon CHB channel for most of the game. Overall i thought it was a quality contest but still plenty of mistakes from both sides.

Good game. Felt Dgn def closer but the goal they conceded was a killer. Holmes probably best on show for Dgn with 6 also putting in a good shift. Young McKeown(?) from Ardboe no. 12 had a good game as well. Dgn missed a open goal in 1st half and that might have put a different complexion on the game.
Omagh have some very talented lads. 6 definitely one for the future. 8 also had an excellent game. They worked the same kickout over and over and Dgn still couldn't stop it. Picked off their points well.

If you put those two teams and Donaghmore together there is some talent in Tyrone. Hopefully the county can bring them through.

yeah, two years in succession we have had 3 semi finalists from Tyrone schools.
The addition of Diarmaid McNulty to the county U20 coaching set up seems like a good move as well.
The U20's isnt straight knoackout anymore, its moved to a league format. I think this will suit too
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Onthe40 on February 12, 2024, 10:22:41 AM
Decent game, Omagh always looked as if they were in control despite the goal chances Dungannon had which should've been taken and could've very much changed the outcome
Dungannon scoring threat was bit limited up front
Though you'd have to think their in with a big shout in the next few years with the good rannafast Squad coming through and the strong 4th year squad below that

though that is no guarantee as it was interesting to hear that particular Omagh year group won nothing the whole way through their school journey until now

Omagh though could begin to dominate now with the catchment area they have  and a non academic path into the school available.. Dungannon, Cookstown, Donaghmore now pulling from same area and ballygawley pulling in lads too that maybe previously went to dungannon

Overall though the tyrone schools are getting better

Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: rrhf on February 12, 2024, 01:16:27 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 11, 2024, 03:59:57 PMEmbarrassing from BBCSNI from start to finish here.
Maybe its the move from St Patricks day for the MacRory cup but whole BBC presentation and build up was poor.  Having been so good in the past at previewing and covering the final, how and why has the ball been dropped. This used to be a live TV event..
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ClubScene13 on February 12, 2024, 02:53:57 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on February 12, 2024, 10:22:41 AMDecent game, Omagh always looked as if they were in control despite the goal chances Dungannon had which should've been taken and could've very much changed the outcome
Dungannon scoring threat was bit limited up front
Though you'd have to think their in with a big shout in the next few years with the good rannafast Squad coming through and the strong 4th year squad below that

though that is no guarantee as it was interesting to hear that particular Omagh year group won nothing the whole way through their school journey until now

Omagh though could begin to dominate now with the catchment area they have  and a non academic path into the school available.. Dungannon, Cookstown, Donaghmore now pulling from same area and ballygawley pulling in lads too that maybe previously went to dungannon

Overall though the tyrone schools are getting better



Is this true? Jesus, the catchment area is already giant without that being the case. I think St Pat's Maghera is the same though not 100%. They obviously have St Mary's to compete with at least, Omagh have free reign from Greencastle to Trillick
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Onthe40 on February 12, 2024, 04:03:37 PM
yep both Omagh grammars (girls & boys) have that option
don't know details on criteria/numbers etc but there is a path
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 04:05:14 PM
Listening to that podcast and you hear the numbers etc. 85 looking to get in the squad - mad amount. Also the setup sounds incredibly professional and probably is in a lo of other schools too. Shows you what the schools who aren't competing need to do and what they are up against.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on February 12, 2024, 04:07:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 04:05:14 PMListening to that podcast and you hear the numbers etc. 85 looking to get in the squad - mad amount. Also the setup sounds incredibly professional and probably is in a lo of other schools too. Shows you what the schools who aren't competing need to do and what they are up against.

What podcast was that?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 04:23:07 PM
The GAA social. They interviewed 3 omagh boys (at a bit of length) and had a long enough interview with the Omagh coach McNulty.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on February 12, 2024, 04:27:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 12, 2024, 04:23:07 PMThe GAA social. They interviewed 3 omagh boys (at a bit of length) and had a long enough interview with the Omagh coach McNulty.

Cheers
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bogball88 on February 12, 2024, 04:34:04 PM
Quote from: rrhf on February 12, 2024, 01:16:27 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 11, 2024, 03:59:57 PMEmbarrassing from BBCSNI from start to finish here.
Maybe its the move from St Patricks day for the MacRory cup but whole BBC presentation and build up was poor.  Having been so good in the past at previewing and covering the final, how and why has the ball been dropped. This used to be a live TV event..
The team lineouts displayed over a soccer graphic has become a favourite of mine as of late  ;D
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on February 12, 2024, 05:06:33 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on February 12, 2024, 10:22:41 AMthough that is no guarantee as it was interesting to hear that particular Omagh year group won nothing the whole way through their school journey until now

Maghera won D'alton, Corn Na Nog and Rannafast in this particular year group. Omagh were beat in the CNN final by Maghera. Believe it was Cavan and Macartans that lost in the other respective finals.

Think Dungannon and Omagh MacRory finals could become more frequent in the next couple of years (if they don't take the other out) as they have dominated further down the schools competitions.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bannside on February 12, 2024, 06:50:56 PM
Tyrone schools football at an all time high. Must be serious work going on in clubs, then schools pick up the mantle in year 8.

Holy Trinity & St Joseph's Donaghmore both stepping up in recent years too...

Only show in town amongst the bushes...fair play.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: LeoMc on February 12, 2024, 10:08:24 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 12, 2024, 06:50:56 PMTyrone schools football at an all time high. Must be serious work going on in clubs, then schools pick up the mantle in year 8.

Holy Trinity & St Joseph's Donaghmore both stepping up in recent years too...

Only show in town amongst the bushes...fair play.
The Dean managed a Markey cup last year and were competing in grade 1 on down the years reaching the Dalton (?) final.
Holy Cross Strabane also reached a Markey cup final this year.
St Ciarans Ballygawley seems to have slipped off the radar.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 12, 2024, 10:56:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 12, 2024, 06:50:56 PMTyrone schools football at an all time high. Must be serious work going on in clubs, then schools pick up the mantle in year 8.

Holy Trinity & St Joseph's Donaghmore both stepping up in recent years too...

Only show in town amongst the bushes...fair play.
Undoubtedly. Though it's important not to forget the influences these lads are experiencing in their homes, where a Gaelic Games culture is being instilled into them and where succeeding on the Gaelic football field is highly valued.
It's often overlooked but without it, the clubs and schools can find themselves behind the black ball before they begin. It is the vital cog.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 13, 2024, 12:40:28 AM
Do Trillick players now go to Omagh? Was there not a history of them going to Enniskillen? Think the Donnelly's n Brennan's went there?

If so is this something Tyrone GAA are pushing. Keeping players within the county? St Pius' doesn't seem to attract loughshore players like it once used to. All seem to go to Holy Trinity now.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trailer on February 13, 2024, 08:51:47 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 13, 2024, 12:40:28 AMDo Trillick players now go to Omagh? Was there not a history of them going to Enniskillen? Think the Donnelly's n Brennan's went there?

If so is this something Tyrone GAA are pushing. Keeping players within the county? St Pius' doesn't seem to attract loughshore players like it once used to. All seem to go to Holy Trinity now.

Dunno if it that sort of conscious decision at 11 years old. Schools can go through popularity cycles. I know where I live it fluctuates between SPAD and Armagh. Certainly Omagh winning back to back MacRory will have done them no harm in attracting children interested in football.
Someone said it above it is the parents who start the love of the game. But Schools and Clubs are doing fantastic work bringing them on.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Estimator on February 13, 2024, 09:21:15 AM
Catchment areas for secondary schools are an interesting one. St Pats Maghera have a huge catchment, but there are plenty of other secondary schools within that area. You've the likes of Ballinascreen, Dungiven, Clady/Kilrea and Magherafelt all with their own schools and no need for a transfer test.

From my own parish, there would've traditionally been an even split between Maghera and Magherafelt (from those that did the transfer), but that has changed dramatically and the numbers heading to Maghera have been in and around single figures over the last 3/4 years. With an increase in the Convent numbers.

They are also under pressure from the likes of Gaelcholáiste Dhoire, who are probably taking a good few students who would have went to Maghera.

Also I never thought I'd see a day where St Mary's in Magherafelt, would have had Slaughtneil and Glen players in the same starting line up for MacRory match.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: the onion bag on February 13, 2024, 09:41:52 AM
Quote from: trailer on February 13, 2024, 08:51:47 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 13, 2024, 12:40:28 AMDo Trillick players now go to Omagh? Was there not a history of them going to Enniskillen? Think the Donnelly's n Brennan's went there?

If so is this something Tyrone GAA are pushing. Keeping players within the county? St Pius' doesn't seem to attract loughshore players like it once used to. All seem to go to Holy Trinity now.

Dunno if it that sort of conscious decision at 11 years old. Schools can go through popularity cycles. I know where I live it fluctuates between SPAD and Armagh. Certainly Omagh winning back to back MacRory will have done them no harm in attracting children interested in football.
Someone said it above it is the parents who start the love of the game. But Schools and Clubs are doing fantastic work bringing them on.
Trillick seems to be a case of families having a preference for certain schools. I think the Corry lads on last year's Tyrone minor panel this year went to Enniskillen like their fathers.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Aaron Boone on February 13, 2024, 10:45:54 AM
Omagh's catchment area has been pretty constant over the generations, but it hasn't been diminished in the last 20 years by the newer/ambitious/rival schools.

It's a big school but not huge like St Columb's Derry.

St Michael's Enniskillen has equally wide catchment.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: TwoUpTwoDown on February 13, 2024, 11:04:01 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on February 13, 2024, 10:45:54 AMOmagh's catchment area has been pretty constant over the generations, but it hasn't been diminished in the last 20 years by the newer/ambitious/rival schools.

It's a big school but not huge like St Columb's Derry.

St Michael's Enniskillen has equally wide catchment.

CBS feels like its getting smaller if anything? The last two panels have had nobody from Errigal Ciaran etc. While during the noughties I remember a lot of players from that area. Ronan McRroy and Peter Harte captained them in finals. I think Harte's team had 6 or 7 Errigal lads. Where are they going? St Ciarán's haven't been tearing up any trees in the period in-between.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trueblue1234 on February 13, 2024, 05:02:13 PM
I've a girl going through the transfer this year and from talking to parents and the schools, both the convent and the CBS are struggling to hit their intake numbers. Both are 50 / 50 wrt academic selection vs criteria. Sacred Heart seems to be pulling in more and more. May just be a couple of years were numbers have dipped but seems more than a few parents are preferring the mixed school environment.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bogball88 on February 13, 2024, 05:52:31 PM
Quote from: TwoUpTwoDown on February 13, 2024, 11:04:01 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on February 13, 2024, 10:45:54 AMOmagh's catchment area has been pretty constant over the generations, but it hasn't been diminished in the last 20 years by the newer/ambitious/rival schools.

It's a big school but not huge like St Columb's Derry.

St Michael's Enniskillen has equally wide catchment.

CBS feels like its getting smaller if anything? The last two panels have had nobody from Errigal Ciaran etc. While during the noughties I remember a lot of players from that area. Ronan McRroy and Peter Harte captained them in finals. I think Harte's team had 6 or 7 Errigal lads. Where are they going? St Ciarán's haven't been tearing up any trees in the period in-between.
I think he moved from St Ciarans in 6th year
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on February 13, 2024, 06:23:05 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 12, 2024, 10:56:32 PM
Quote from: bannside on February 12, 2024, 06:50:56 PMTyrone schools football at an all time high. Must be serious work going on in clubs, then schools pick up the mantle in year 8.

Holy Trinity & St Joseph's Donaghmore both stepping up in recent years too...

Only show in town amongst the bushes...fair play.
Undoubtedly. Though it's important not to forget the influences these lads are experiencing in their homes, where a Gaelic Games culture is being instilled into them and where succeeding on the Gaelic football field is highly valued.
It's often overlooked but without it, the clubs and schools can find themselves behind the black ball before they begin. It is the vital cog.

Very true.

Starts in the family, then primary school.

Secondary schools can only work with what's coming through their doors in first year.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: statto on February 14, 2024, 07:00:45 AM
Quote from: TwoUpTwoDown on February 13, 2024, 11:04:01 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on February 13, 2024, 10:45:54 AMOmagh's catchment area has been pretty constant over the generations, but it hasn't been diminished in the last 20 years by the newer/ambitious/rival schools.

It's a big school but not huge like St Columb's Derry.

St Michael's Enniskillen has equally wide catchment.

CBS feels like its getting smaller if anything? The last two panels have had nobody from Errigal Ciaran etc. While during the noughties I remember a lot of players from that area. Ronan McRroy and Peter Harte captained them in finals. I think Harte's team had 6 or 7 Errigal lads. Where are they going? St Ciarán's haven't been tearing up any trees in the period in-between.
McNulty said they had 86 at trials then cut it to 45 initially so must be doing ok.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Onthe40 on March 01, 2024, 04:01:44 PM
Omagh beat Dungannon in the McGrath semi today, into another final..... jet
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lurganblue on March 01, 2024, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on March 01, 2024, 04:01:44 PMOmagh beat Dungannon in the McGrath semi today, into another final..... jet

Omagh is the strongest at that age group.  The play a decent Abbey team in the final but they'd be expected to win.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Onthe40 on March 01, 2024, 04:19:03 PM
hadn't been much in it between them and academy in last 2 finals at that age but seemed one sided today
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Blowitupref on March 08, 2024, 05:31:04 PM
All-Ireland Post Primary Schools B Football Final (Paddy Drummond Cup)

Ashbourne Community School v Abbey Vocational School

Tomorrow at 2pm in Clones.

https://www.youtube.com/live/XlfChGAzwM8?si=bb8jiKBQWdXN74Hv


All-Ireland Post Primary Schools C Final

Tomorrow at 2pm.Cullen Park

Tarbert Comprehensive School v St Malachy's Castlewellan


https://www.youtube.com/live/r7LbklULKAU?si=nD-7ReNVHcrDNQAm

All-Ireland Post Primary Schools D Football Final (Brother Edmund Ignatius Rice Cup)

Tomorrow at 2pm. Markievicz Park

https://www.youtube.com/live/zvNWQC_WiEk?si=nAlbEOrPvXxY6rcP

Hogan cup final A All-Ireland final is on March 16th in Croke Park at 3pm.


Mercy Mount hawk v Omagh CBS.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 08, 2024, 08:42:19 PM
Some name for a school.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: gallsman on March 09, 2024, 01:55:22 PM
?
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Blowitupref on March 09, 2024, 02:47:29 PM
Half time scores

Ashbourne Community School 0-3 Abbey Vocational School 0-10

Tarbert Comprehensive School 1-5 St Malachy's Castlewellan 0-8

Gallen Community School Ferbane 0-3 Scoil Mhuire Buncrana 1-3

Results
Ashbourne Community School 0-9 Abbey Vocational School 1-15
Tarbert Comprehensive School 2-15 St Malachy's Castlewellan 4-9  (extra time to be played)
Gallen Community School Ferbane 0-9 Scoil Mhuire Buncrana 1-5

Result after extra time

Tarbert Comprehensive School 3-19 St Malachy's Castlewellan 4-13
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Wolfetones on March 15, 2024, 03:31:06 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 01, 2024, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on March 01, 2024, 04:01:44 PMOmagh beat Dungannon in the McGrath semi today, into another final..... jet

Omagh is the strongest at that age group.  The play a decent Abbey team in the final but they'd be expected to win.

CBS 5-18 Abbey 0-10
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bennydorano on March 15, 2024, 09:12:05 PM
What year / age group is Dalton Cup these days? I see St Pats Armagh in the semi v Colmans. Cavan v Maghera the other.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 15, 2024, 09:12:56 PM
2nd year
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: yellowcard on March 16, 2024, 01:10:21 PM
Omagh going for back to back Hogan Cups today would be a big achievement for an Ulster school. Live on TG4 3.00pm.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: bannside on March 16, 2024, 02:53:22 PM
Well done St Killians (Garron Tower) comfortable winners All Ireland B Colleges.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: snoopdog on March 16, 2024, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 16, 2024, 01:10:21 PMOmagh going for back to back Hogan Cups today would be a big achievement for an Ulster school. Live on TG4 3.00pm.

St Colmans did it 2010, 2011.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: snoopdog on March 16, 2024, 02:56:56 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on March 16, 2024, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 16, 2024, 01:10:21 PMOmagh going for back to back Hogan Cups today would be a big achievement for an Ulster school. Live on TG4 3.00pm.

St Colmans did it 2010, 2011.
Maghera also 89 90.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: lurganblue on March 16, 2024, 03:48:48 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 15, 2024, 09:12:05 PMWhat year / age group is Dalton Cup these days? I see St Pats Armagh in the semi v Colmans. Cavan v Maghera the other.

2 touch rule applies in it too.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: gallsman on March 16, 2024, 04:02:12 PM
Omagh playing all the football and only a point up at the half. Stupid fool for the black card.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: RedHand2022 on March 16, 2024, 04:07:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on March 16, 2024, 04:02:12 PMOmagh playing all the football and only a point up at the half. Stupid fool for the black card.
They have been playing against 16 men the entire first half
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: gallsman on March 16, 2024, 04:08:15 PM
Wise up.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Blowitupref on March 16, 2024, 04:26:05 PM
Goal for Omagh CBS 1-9 to 0-6 now.  A 2nd goal for Omagh that should be it 2-9 to 0-7.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: gallsman on March 16, 2024, 04:32:29 PM
Calamity of errors at the back there for a second Omagh goal. 7 points up with 15 mins to go. Vastly superior team.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: reddgnhand on March 16, 2024, 04:34:04 PM
Quote from: RedHand2022 on March 16, 2024, 04:07:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on March 16, 2024, 04:02:12 PMOmagh playing all the football and only a point up at the half. Stupid fool for the black card.
They have been playing against 16 men the entire first half

And now the second.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Onthe40 on March 16, 2024, 04:37:17 PM
Poor Kerry outfit.. limited fwd line
Omagh in control
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 16, 2024, 04:44:56 PM
CBS defence very strong. Very good in possession and tactical seem to be way ahead. Bit anticlimactic now.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: gallsman on March 16, 2024, 04:47:52 PM
The two lads in the FF line looked decent (that mark as good a catch as you'll see all year) but other than that they had nothing.

Very, very strong Omagh side. Terrific achievement.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: Blowitupref on March 16, 2024, 04:49:15 PM
Back to back Hogan Cups for Omagh school thanks to a strong 2nd half display.  FT CBS Omagh 3-14 Mercy Mounthawk 0-11
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: ONeill on March 16, 2024, 04:55:09 PM
Two big wins in both their Hogans.
Title: Re: Ulster Colleges
Post by: marty34 on March 16, 2024, 05:13:26 PM
Well done Omagh. Plenty of talent coming through.