NFL Division 1 2024

[seafoid]

8pts is safety...Unless i've done my calculations wrong due to fixtures against each other it's not possible to be relegated on 8pts.

I know it's not for another 10 days or so and it'll heat up next week but i really like this Galway team and if they get a bit of steel about them they certainly have the players to win an All Ireland, I think Armagh can beat them next week but only because Galway may well have their eye on another game in the Championship. If Galway come to Armagh next week looking 2pts and hungry for them they will beat Armagh based on current form, Armagh have played none the year and I'm pleasantly surprised they have 5pts so far as their performances have been below par for me. They have a lot of injuries atm but I doubt any team is playing with their full deck at this stage as there is always someone suspended or injured. Maybe this could be the game where things click for them and both teams have a qer rattle at each other and see who can out gun the other (wishful thinking...it'll be another boring orange wall around the 45m line)

The CCCC could intervene to make sure Monaghan go down

[Rossfan]

[seafoid]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2023/0306/1360568-coulter-all-ireland-race-will-be-most-open-in-a-decade/
Down legend Benny Coulter believes that we could be set for the most open All-Ireland Senior Football Championship in a decade.

The Mayobridge man, an All-Star in 2010, retired from the inter-county scene after the 2014 campaign and the eight seasons since have seen Dublin lift the Sam Maguire six times while Tyrone and Kerry have each been crowned All-Ireland champions once.

However Coulter, manager of the Down minors and Mourne club Rostrevor, feels that the 2023 season is starting to feel like it could produce something special.

The fact that the two favourites for the All-Ireland, Kerry and Dublin, suffered league defeats at the weekend only strengthens that assertion.

"I'm looking at the likes of Armagh, Derry and teams like that. I don't think Kerry are as far ahead as people think.

"David Clifford is obviously an outstanding player, but you take Clifford out, teams like Armagh and Derry will feel that they are as good as them.

"This season is going to be an open race; you don't have to wait another two or three years. We're going to have Galway and Dublin there too.

"This new group stage format, it's new and all the teams will be going into the unknown."

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/03/06/for-the-first-time-in-gaa-some-league-games-are-as-important-as-the-championship/
The Monaghan-Tyrone game in a couple of weeks will be an interesting test of the changing climate. Having spent nine years in Division One – the second longest existing tenancy in the division, behind Kerry – Monaghan are bothered by relegation again. Despite their win over the All-Ireland champions at the weekend, Tyrone are not out of the woods either.

The league game between them on March 19th comes less than a month before they meet in the Ulster championship. Which game is more important? The answer to that question may be the same as it ever was, but the question is no longer risible.

It is inconceivable that either Monaghan or Tyrone will be sanguine about a match that is critical to their continuing status as a Division One team. The difference in temperature between a league game and a provincial championship game has been significantly reduced, not just by the condensed calendar, but by the adjusted status of both competitions. Before long, the difference might be negligible.

[An Fhairche Abu]

On review of the Peter Cooke sending off, what he done was very stupid but on TV there, it looked like the Monaghan man was holding him down with a semi head lock in the ground. No action against the Monaghan lad. Seriously what was Seal Kelly at, lying down like that.

Really poor stuff, went down ridiculously easy from barely a tap. Would hope that the likes won't be seen again.
Ref at fault for letting it get to the point it did when he could see it unfolding in front of him and not doing anything, Cooke stupid to rise to the opposition bait of course.

[tonto1888]

I say unless there a miracle Donegal and Monaghan be going down.

Monaghan have never needed miracles to beat Tyrone in the league. We can't possibly play as bad as that 2nd half performance  in Galway and notwithstanding it took Galway ages to get that game closing goal, even that had to handed on a plate to them.

Galway controlled that game handily and had it not been for a moment of madness (that the ref should've sorted far earlier) and 4/5 Beggan punts from soft frees, it probably would've been a double figure scoreline. Galway missed a gilt edged goal chance 15 mins before their actual one on 63 mins, and fisted another when a goal chance was glaring. Not sure Monaghan got within sight of a goal

Galway controlled all the second half yet it took the gifted goal near the end to put the required distance, from 2 points to 5. It was the worst half Monaghan have played this year, so I wouldnt start counting chickens just yet and considering Monaghan's shooting was much more wasteful in front of goal than Galway's. Nevertheless, we won't be relegating you this year.

Ah, that year you broke the covid rules and got rewarded with a home relegation playoff in a game of inches. A tough one to take at the time alright, but one of the best things to happen in hindsight. There's great momentum in winning, and it lasted for the vast majority of last year.

You should have nothing to be worried about as long as you're confident you'll get straight back up. I do hope Monaghan stay up though, that lengthy stretch in D1 is a great achievement

Monaghan were punished for breaking covid rules and served their time which afterwards ended up in a play off in Clones. When you are beaten fair and square on the field of play you should take it on the chin like us Monaghan folk are well used to
Just take on board  that this year you failed to beat both Roscommon and Donegal,  which we managed handily enough. The league is not a consistent affair but about who manages to stay afloat after 7 games.

8 points may not be enough for safety.

Donegal can only finish with a maximum of 7. Tyrone play monaghan and with both on 4 - I think - both cant finish on 8. 8 will keep you in div1

[westbound]

I say unless there a miracle Donegal and Monaghan be going down.

Monaghan have never needed miracles to beat Tyrone in the league. We can't possibly play as bad as that 2nd half performance  in Galway and notwithstanding it took Galway ages to get that game closing goal, even that had to handed on a plate to them.

Galway controlled that game handily and had it not been for a moment of madness (that the ref should've sorted far earlier) and 4/5 Beggan punts from soft frees, it probably would've been a double figure scoreline. Galway missed a gilt edged goal chance 15 mins before their actual one on 63 mins, and fisted another when a goal chance was glaring. Not sure Monaghan got within sight of a goal

Galway controlled all the second half yet it took the gifted goal near the end to put the required distance, from 2 points to 5. It was the worst half Monaghan have played this year, so I wouldnt start counting chickens just yet and considering Monaghan's shooting was much more wasteful in front of goal than Galway's. Nevertheless, we won't be relegating you this year.

Ah, that year you broke the covid rules and got rewarded with a home relegation playoff in a game of inches. A tough one to take at the time alright, but one of the best things to happen in hindsight. There's great momentum in winning, and it lasted for the vast majority of last year.

You should have nothing to be worried about as long as you're confident you'll get straight back up. I do hope Monaghan stay up though, that lengthy stretch in D1 is a great achievement

Monaghan were punished for breaking covid rules and served their time which afterwards ended up in a play off in Clones. When you are beaten fair and square on the field of play you should take it on the chin like us Monaghan folk are well used to
Just take on board  that this year you failed to beat both Roscommon and Donegal,  which we managed handily enough. The league is not a consistent affair but about who manages to stay afloat after 7 games.

8 points may not be enough for safety.

Donegal can only finish with a maximum of 7. Tyrone play monaghan and with both on 4 - I think - both cant finish on 8. 8 will keep you in div1

It's mathematically IMPOSSIBLE to get relegated on 8 points in an 8 team (7 match) league unless one team gets zero. Therefore 8 points is guaranteed to keep you up this year.

[Cunny Funt]

Galway are safe on 6 pts anyway, hopefully won't be too interested in collecting the points in Armagh ... sure they need to think ahead to the 2024 league and 6000 Armagh supporters landing into Salthill for the weekend, bonanza for the local economy.  Galway lads will hopefully see the bigger picture 

In what is the tightest of Division 1 campaigns teams would want to get at least 7 points to be sure of relegation.

Galway have an opportunity of reaching and winning a Div 1 title something they haven't done since 1981 and if they reach it Mayo will be the opposition whom will have more than on eye on their championship opener the following week.

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1   
   Mayo   5   3   2   0   92   73   8
2   
   Roscommon   5   3   0   2   72   68   6
3   
   Galway   5   2   2   1   66   58   6
4   
   Armagh   5   2   1   2   70   69   5
5   
   Kerry   5   2   0   3   77   76   4
6   
   Tyrone   5   2   0   3   74   81   4
7   
   Monaghan   5   2   0   3   76   84   4
8   
   Donegal   5   1   1   3   58   76   3


Next round of fixtures is as follows:

Armagh v Galway
Kerry v Roscommon
Monaghan v Tyrone
Donegal v Mayo

I think Kerry will beat Roscommon at home but the other games are all difficult to predict. Armagh and Galway will both want to guarantee their safety with a win. If Armagh lose they could go into the last game in Omagh needing points to stay up, which is definitely not ideal. The loser of Monaghan v Tyrone will also be in grave danger of relegation. Mayo are the only side guaranteed safety and subconsciously you would imagine that they are already in championship preparation mode. Donegal are playing them at a good time and they are difficult to beat in Ballybofey so it would not surprise me if Donegal won that match.

One thing for sure is that this might be the most open championship race we have had for about a decade. Kerry are probably still out in front in terms of their scoring threat and squad depth but they certainly don't look as capable of dominating as Dublin were in their pomp.   

[blanketattack]

I say unless there a miracle Donegal and Monaghan be going down.

Monaghan have never needed miracles to beat Tyrone in the league. We can't possibly play as bad as that 2nd half performance  in Galway and notwithstanding it took Galway ages to get that game closing goal, even that had to handed on a plate to them.

Galway controlled that game handily and had it not been for a moment of madness (that the ref should've sorted far earlier) and 4/5 Beggan punts from soft frees, it probably would've been a double figure scoreline. Galway missed a gilt edged goal chance 15 mins before their actual one on 63 mins, and fisted another when a goal chance was glaring. Not sure Monaghan got within sight of a goal

Galway controlled all the second half yet it took the gifted goal near the end to put the required distance, from 2 points to 5. It was the worst half Monaghan have played this year, so I wouldnt start counting chickens just yet and considering Monaghan's shooting was much more wasteful in front of goal than Galway's. Nevertheless, we won't be relegating you this year.

Ah, that year you broke the covid rules and got rewarded with a home relegation playoff in a game of inches. A tough one to take at the time alright, but one of the best things to happen in hindsight. There's great momentum in winning, and it lasted for the vast majority of last year.

You should have nothing to be worried about as long as you're confident you'll get straight back up. I do hope Monaghan stay up though, that lengthy stretch in D1 is a great achievement

Monaghan were punished for breaking covid rules and served their time which afterwards ended up in a play off in Clones. When you are beaten fair and square on the field of play you should take it on the chin like us Monaghan folk are well used to
Just take on board  that this year you failed to beat both Roscommon and Donegal,  which we managed handily enough. The league is not a consistent affair but about who manages to stay afloat after 7 games.

8 points may not be enough for safety.

Donegal can only finish with a maximum of 7. Tyrone play monaghan and with both on 4 - I think - both cant finish on 8. 8 will keep you in div1

It's mathematically IMPOSSIBLE to get relegated on 8 points in an 8 team (7 match) league unless one team gets zero. Therefore 8 points is guaranteed to keep you up this year.

Yes, the only way to get relegated on 8 points is if 7 teams finish on 8 pts and one finishes on 0 points.
It's possible to get relegated on 7 points but only if some very specific results were to happen, one of which is Tyrone and Monaghan drawing.

The likelihood of getting relegated on 7 pts is about .1%.

[Blowitupref]

1   
   Mayo   5   3   2   0   92   73   8
2   
   Roscommon   5   3   0   2   72   68   6
3   
   Galway   5   2   2   1   66   58   6
4   
   Armagh   5   2   1   2   70   69   5
5   
   Kerry   5   2   0   3   77   76   4
6   
   Tyrone   5   2   0   3   74   81   4
7   
   Monaghan   5   2   0   3   76   84   4
8   
   Donegal   5   1   1   3   58   76   3


Next round of fixtures is as follows:

Armagh v Galway
Kerry v Roscommon
Monaghan v Tyrone
Donegal v Mayo

I think Kerry will beat Roscommon at home but the other games are all difficult to predict. Armagh and Galway will both want to guarantee their safety with a win. If Armagh lose they could go into the last game in Omagh needing points to stay up, which is definitely not ideal. The loser of Monaghan v Tyrone will also be in grave danger of relegation. Mayo are the only side guaranteed safety and subconsciously you would imagine that they are already in championship preparation mode. Donegal are playing them at a good time and they are difficult to beat in Ballybofey so it would not surprise me if Donegal won that match.

One thing for sure is that this might be the most open championship race we have had for about a decade. Kerry are probably still out in front in terms of their scoring threat and squad depth but they certainly don't look as capable of dominating as Dublin were in their pomp.

Donegal have never lost i believe to Mayo in Ballybofey.

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1   
   Mayo   5   3   2   0   92   73   8
2   
   Roscommon   5   3   0   2   72   68   6
3   
   Galway   5   2   2   1   66   58   6
4   
   Armagh   5   2   1   2   70   69   5
5   
   Kerry   5   2   0   3   77   76   4
6   
   Tyrone   5   2   0   3   74   81   4
7   
   Monaghan   5   2   0   3   76   84   4
8   
   Donegal   5   1   1   3   58   76   3


Next round of fixtures is as follows:

Armagh v Galway
Kerry v Roscommon
Monaghan v Tyrone
Donegal v Mayo

I think Kerry will beat Roscommon at home but the other games are all difficult to predict. Armagh and Galway will both want to guarantee their safety with a win. If Armagh lose they could go into the last game in Omagh needing points to stay up, which is definitely not ideal. The loser of Monaghan v Tyrone will also be in grave danger of relegation. Mayo are the only side guaranteed safety and subconsciously you would imagine that they are already in championship preparation mode. Donegal are playing them at a good time and they are difficult to beat in Ballybofey so it would not surprise me if Donegal won that match.

One thing for sure is that this might be the most open championship race we have had for about a decade. Kerry are probably still out in front in terms of their scoring threat and squad depth but they certainly don't look as capable of dominating as Dublin were in their pomp.

Donegal have never lost i believe to Mayo in Ballybofey.

Donegal haven't lost to anyone in Ballybofey in the league for 12 years!!!

[J70]

Monaghan beat us in Ballybofey last year.

But yes, we were unbeaten for a decade or so before that in the league.

[StephenC]

1   
   Mayo   5   3   2   0   92   73   8
2   
   Roscommon   5   3   0   2   72   68   6
3   
   Galway   5   2   2   1   66   58   6
4   
   Armagh   5   2   1   2   70   69   5
5   
   Kerry   5   2   0   3   77   76   4
6   
   Tyrone   5   2   0   3   74   81   4
7   
   Monaghan   5   2   0   3   76   84   4
8   
   Donegal   5   1   1   3   58   76   3


Next round of fixtures is as follows:

Armagh v Galway
Kerry v Roscommon
Monaghan v Tyrone
Donegal v Mayo

I think Kerry will beat Roscommon at home but the other games are all difficult to predict. Armagh and Galway will both want to guarantee their safety with a win. If Armagh lose they could go into the last game in Omagh needing points to stay up, which is definitely not ideal. The loser of Monaghan v Tyrone will also be in grave danger of relegation. Mayo are the only side guaranteed safety and subconsciously you would imagine that they are already in championship preparation mode. Donegal are playing them at a good time and they are difficult to beat in Ballybofey so it would not surprise me if Donegal won that match.

One thing for sure is that this might be the most open championship race we have had for about a decade. Kerry are probably still out in front in terms of their scoring threat and squad depth but they certainly don't look as capable of dominating as Dublin were in their pomp.

Donegal have never lost i believe to Mayo in Ballybofey.

We lost to Mayo in Ballybofey in 2018 when Kevin McLoughlin scored a goal to get the draw and to relegate us. 

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Whoops! My mistake was reading an article from Feb 22 not Feb 23!