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Re: Leo Varadkar becomes a racist
« Reply #195 on: January 24, 2023, 08:03:29 PM »
People are leaving to better themselves, itís up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then thatís on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ainít arriving on dinghyís

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

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Re: Leo Varadkar becomes a racist
« Reply #196 on: January 24, 2023, 08:09:48 PM »
People are leaving to better themselves, itís up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then thatís on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ainít arriving on dinghyís

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

Iím not saying they are refugees, they are leaving (like a lot of people) to improve their livesÖ

Itís completely down to whoever is allowing them in, like I said they ainít arriving on small inflatable boats
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

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« Reply #197 on: January 24, 2023, 08:33:45 PM »
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/ambassador-says-that-georgia-has-eu-status-of-safe-country-38657821.html


Hereís another one. Able bodied men ďfleeingĒ Georgia for asylum here.

Anyhow, the narrative is starting to change but itís still difficult to comprehend that when 90% of the population believe the present system is wrong and when 90% are against government policy that not one senior elected representative (some local councillors have tried) have put their head above the parapet and spoken out for change or some improvement.
itís amazing how scared the public is afraid of the rabid 10/20%
Not easy to shake off being called a racist or misogynistic or some other insult.
Look through all the threads on here same few people very quick to insult and label people, a worldwide problem

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Re: Leo Varadkar becomes a racist
« Reply #198 on: January 24, 2023, 09:01:20 PM »
People are leaving to better themselves, itís up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then thatís on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ainít arriving on dinghyís

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

Iím not saying they are refugees, they are leaving (like a lot of people) to improve their livesÖ

Itís completely down to whoever is allowing them in, like I said they ainít arriving on small inflatable boats
Presumably International Law requires them to be put up while being investigated?
Remember we're a noble race from a land where Kings once trod.

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« Reply #199 on: January 24, 2023, 09:06:42 PM »
People are leaving to better themselves, itís up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then thatís on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ainít arriving on dinghyís

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

Iím not saying they are refugees, they are leaving (like a lot of people) to improve their livesÖ

Itís completely down to whoever is allowing them in, like I said they ainít arriving on small inflatable boats
Presumably International Law requires them to be put up while being investigated?

If I head to the States without documentation ( how anyone is allowed through an airport without it) theyíll send me home or do they have international law?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

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« Reply #200 on: January 24, 2023, 09:19:00 PM »
People are leaving to better themselves, itís up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then thatís on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ainít arriving on dinghyís

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

Iím not saying they are refugees, they are leaving (like a lot of people) to improve their livesÖ

Itís completely down to whoever is allowing them in, like I said they ainít arriving on small inflatable boats
Presumably International Law requires them to be put up while being investigated?

If I head to the States without documentation ( how anyone is allowed through an airport without it) theyíll send me home or do they have international law?

If you cross the Southern Border without documents, my understanding is they have to let you in pending approval. Thatís why Trump implemented the ďwait in MexicoĒ  rule. (Would a peasant from a village have a passport or drivers licenseÖ.probably not)

If you land at JFK or Logan and have no identification when you present yourself at Homeland Security you would be put on the next plane back to where you came from

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« Reply #201 on: January 24, 2023, 09:23:52 PM »
People are leaving to better themselves, itís up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then thatís on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ainít arriving on dinghyís

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

Iím not saying they are refugees, they are leaving (like a lot of people) to improve their livesÖ

Itís completely down to whoever is allowing them in, like I said they ainít arriving on small inflatable boats
Presumably International Law requires them to be put up while being investigated?

If I head to the States without documentation ( how anyone is allowed through an airport without it) theyíll send me home or do they have international law?

If you cross the Southern Border without documents, my understanding is they have to let you in pending approval. Thatís why Trump implemented the ďwait in MexicoĒ  rule. (Would a peasant from a village have a passport or drivers licenseÖ.probably not)

If you land at JFK or Logan and have no identification when you present yourself at Homeland Security you would be put on the next plane back to where you came from

So itís not international law when you land at an airport that they canít send you home? So why do they allow it in Dublin??
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

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« Reply #202 on: January 24, 2023, 09:32:41 PM »
People are leaving to better themselves, itís up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then thatís on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ainít arriving on dinghyís

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

Iím not saying they are refugees, they are leaving (like a lot of people) to improve their livesÖ

Itís completely down to whoever is allowing them in, like I said they ainít arriving on small inflatable boats
Presumably International Law requires them to be put up while being investigated?

If I head to the States without documentation ( how anyone is allowed through an airport without it) theyíll send me home or do they have international law?

If you cross the Southern Border without documents, my understanding is they have to let you in pending approval. Thatís why Trump implemented the ďwait in MexicoĒ  rule. (Would a peasant from a village have a passport or drivers licenseÖ.probably not)

If you land at JFK or Logan and have no identification when you present yourself at Homeland Security you would be put on the next plane back to where you came from

So itís not international law when you land at an airport that they canít send you home? So why do they allow it in Dublin??
EU law? Or us being governed by idiots? Or both?

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« Reply #203 on: January 24, 2023, 09:40:55 PM »
People are leaving to better themselves, itís up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then thatís on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ainít arriving on dinghyís

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

Iím not saying they are refugees, they are leaving (like a lot of people) to improve their livesÖ

Itís completely down to whoever is allowing them in, like I said they ainít arriving on small inflatable boats
Presumably International Law requires them to be put up while being investigated?

If I head to the States without documentation ( how anyone is allowed through an airport without it) theyíll send me home or do they have international law?

If you cross the Southern Border without documents, my understanding is they have to let you in pending approval. Thatís why Trump implemented the ďwait in MexicoĒ  rule. (Would a peasant from a village have a passport or drivers licenseÖ.probably not)

If you land at JFK or Logan and have no identification when you present yourself at Homeland Security you would be put on the next plane back to where you came from

So itís not international law when you land at an airport that they canít send you home? So why do they allow it in Dublin??
EU law? Or us being governed by idiots? Or both?

Or is it a case that immigration authorities are not following through on sending them back on the return flight?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

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Re: Leo Varadkar becomes a racist
« Reply #204 on: January 24, 2023, 10:24:31 PM »
People are leaving to better themselves, itís up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then thatís on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ainít arriving on dinghyís

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

Iím not saying they are refugees, they are leaving (like a lot of people) to improve their livesÖ

Itís completely down to whoever is allowing them in, like I said they ainít arriving on small inflatable boats
Presumably International Law requires them to be put up while being investigated?

If I head to the States without documentation ( how anyone is allowed through an airport without it) theyíll send me home or do they have international law?

If you cross the Southern Border without documents, my understanding is they have to let you in pending approval. Thatís why Trump implemented the ďwait in MexicoĒ  rule. (Would a peasant from a village have a passport or drivers licenseÖ.probably not)

If you land at JFK or Logan and have no identification when you present yourself at Homeland Security you would be put on the next plane back to where you came from

So itís not international law when you land at an airport that they canít send you home? So why do they allow it in Dublin??

My understanding is that if you land in the States at an airport without ID they can send you back.

But if you had to fill out an ESTA, you probably wouldnít have made it that far with a fake passport. The the chances of someone presenting themselves with a fake or no passport are probably very slim

If you landed with a legit passport on a tourist visa, then claimed asylum Iíd say they would have to let you in while your case is being heard

I know a Ukrainian family who came on a tourist visa in the 90s and claimed asylum once they got here. The Marathon Bombers family did something similar

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« Reply #205 on: January 24, 2023, 10:28:11 PM »
Mate still there on a J1.. 30 years now ;D
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

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« Reply #206 on: January 24, 2023, 10:37:43 PM »
Mate still there on a J1.. 30 years now ;D

Wow-canít be easy in this day and age.

If people are coming to work and (even half way) obey the law the majority of people I know over here have little issue with illegals


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« Reply #207 on: January 25, 2023, 07:54:40 AM »
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/ambassador-says-that-georgia-has-eu-status-of-safe-country-38657821.html


Hereís another one. Able bodied men ďfleeingĒ Georgia for asylum here.

Anyhow, the narrative is starting to change but itís still difficult to comprehend that when 90% of the population believe the present system is wrong and when 90% are against government policy that not one senior elected representative (some local councillors have tried) have put their head above the parapet and spoken out for change or some improvement.

so what if they are able bodied? Are you only able to fell if you arent able bodied?

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« Reply #208 on: January 25, 2023, 07:59:24 AM »
People are leaving to better themselves, itís up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then thatís on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ainít arriving on dinghyís

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

Iím not saying they are refugees, they are leaving (like a lot of people) to improve their livesÖ

Itís completely down to whoever is allowing them in, like I said they ainít arriving on small inflatable boats
Presumably International Law requires them to be put up while being investigated?

If I head to the States without documentation ( how anyone is allowed through an airport without it) theyíll send me home or do they have international law?

If you cross the Southern Border without documents, my understanding is they have to let you in pending approval. Thatís why Trump implemented the ďwait in MexicoĒ  rule. (Would a peasant from a village have a passport or drivers licenseÖ.probably not)

If you land at JFK or Logan and have no identification when you present yourself at Homeland Security you would be put on the next plane back to where you came from

So itís not international law when you land at an airport that they canít send you home? So why do they allow it in Dublin??

in terms of asylum, the 1951 convention. If you claim asylum your claim has to be considered. Doesn't matter if you are documented or not. Some of the people who arrive with without passports wont ever have had them in their possession anyway

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« Reply #209 on: January 25, 2023, 09:13:12 AM »
People are leaving to better themselves, itís up to the Irish immigration authorities to keep anyone arriving at the airport without documents and send them home.

If immigrants see a loop hole then thatís on Customs/immigration authorities to sort out.

That goes for anyone arriving at the port, they ainít arriving on dinghyís

If people are leaving to better themselves they are economics migrants not refugees or asylum seekers

Ireland has no legal  or fiscal obligation to these people

Especially not at the expanse of the taxpayers

Iím not saying they are refugees, they are leaving (like a lot of people) to improve their livesÖ

Itís completely down to whoever is allowing them in, like I said they ainít arriving on small inflatable boats
Presumably International Law requires them to be put up while being investigated?

If I head to the States without documentation ( how anyone is allowed through an airport without it) theyíll send me home or do they have international law?

If you cross the Southern Border without documents, my understanding is they have to let you in pending approval. Thatís why Trump implemented the ďwait in MexicoĒ  rule. (Would a peasant from a village have a passport or drivers licenseÖ.probably not)

If you land at JFK or Logan and have no identification when you present yourself at Homeland Security you would be put on the next plane back to where you came from

So itís not international law when you land at an airport that they canít send you home? So why do they allow it in Dublin??

in terms of asylum, the 1951 convention. If you claim asylum your claim has to be considered. Doesn't matter if you are documented or not. Some of the people who arrive with without passports wont ever have had them in their possession anyway

Serious question

How do you arrive on a plane without a passport?