Leo Varadkar becomes a racist

[armaghniac]

if ireland was to leave eu the likes ff and fg are to blame because lots of voters will just blame the eu for all immigration.

What are you on about? No party supports leaving the EU. However, there is no doubt that the EU encourages and promotes immigration.

The EU facilitates movement, which can be in either direction. EU immigrants are not a problem.

[Rossfan]

if ireland was to leave eu ....

We wouldn't have an immigration "problem" then, we'd have a major Emigration problem as we'd go back to the 1950s or become a western Albania.

There was a mass loss of people during the last recession. Wouldnt say being in the EU stopped it by any stretch.

When was that? 1980s?
We had no single market then.
Population didn't drop after the property crash in 2008.

[Milltown Row2]

Dublin, and I'm going back over 30 years ago, before the influx of refugees and illegal immigrants  was always a dangerous place around O'Connell street at night, when did it become a safe place? There were druggies all over the shop. Never hung about that area, same as any city there will always be thugs/druggies/wankers

[Eire90]

No major party supports leaving eu but if the right wing continues to grow over the years its a possibility they could make a impact and sinn fein could easily go anti eu if they think people are  becoming anti refugee.

[johnnycool]

Channel crossings: Albanian migrants recruited to the UK by gangs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63488070

Albanian drug gangs are using the migrant camps of northern France as a recruitment ground, offering to pay the passage of those prepared to work in the UK drugs industry on arrival, the BBC has been told.
Albanians account for around a third of the almost 40,000 people who have arrived in small boats.................

Just as well there's no Irish drug gangs, we're so much better than that!

Oh, and as for people smuggling, we Irish don't get involved in that either.

The island of Saints and Scholars indeed.

[Armagh18]

if ireland was to leave eu the likes ff and fg are to blame because lots of voters will just blame the eu for all immigration.

What are you on about? No party supports leaving the EU. However, there is no doubt that the EU encourages and promotes immigration.

The EU facilitates movement, which can be in either direction. EU immigrants are not a problem.

Have you been in Armagh/Dungannon/Newtown/Keady/Newry lately? More EU faces than Irish ones.

[Milltown Row2]

Channel crossings: Albanian migrants recruited to the UK by gangs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63488070

Albanian drug gangs are using the migrant camps of northern France as a recruitment ground, offering to pay the passage of those prepared to work in the UK drugs industry on arrival, the BBC has been told.
Albanians account for around a third of the almost 40,000 people who have arrived in small boats.................

Just as well there's no Irish drug gangs, we're so much better than that!

Oh, and as for people smuggling, we Irish don't get involved in that either.

The island of Saints and Scholars indeed.

Was thon lad from Armagh who had a truck load of people he was smuggling that died?

[Armagh18]

Channel crossings: Albanian migrants recruited to the UK by gangs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63488070

Albanian drug gangs are using the migrant camps of northern France as a recruitment ground, offering to pay the passage of those prepared to work in the UK drugs industry on arrival, the BBC has been told.
Albanians account for around a third of the almost 40,000 people who have arrived in small boats.................

Just as well there's no Irish drug gangs, we're so much better than that!

Oh, and as for people smuggling, we Irish don't get involved in that either.

The island of Saints and Scholars indeed.

Was thon lad from Armagh who had a truck load of people he was smuggling that died?

Driver was from the other side of Armagh who are a different kind of orangemen than us Armagh gaels lol. Owner was Armagh/Monaghan border.

[Saffrongael]

Channel crossings: Albanian migrants recruited to the UK by gangs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63488070

Albanian drug gangs are using the migrant camps of northern France as a recruitment ground, offering to pay the passage of those prepared to work in the UK drugs industry on arrival, the BBC has been told.
Albanians account for around a third of the almost 40,000 people who have arrived in small boats.................

Just as well there's no Irish drug gangs, we're so much better than that!

Oh, and as for people smuggling, we Irish don't get involved in that either.

The island of Saints and Scholars indeed.

Aye we have to keep our own unfortunately. Let's maybe put ads out for more Albanian drug gangs, we haven't enough.

[tyrone08]

if ireland was to leave eu ....

We wouldn't have an immigration "problem" then, we'd have a major Emigration problem as we'd go back to the 1950s or become a western Albania.

There was a mass loss of people during the last recession. Wouldnt say being in the EU stopped it by any stretch.

When was that? 1980s?
We had no single market then.
Population didn't drop after the property crash in 2008.

Are you serious?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20263566.html

RTE figures showed a 40% I crease in emigration in 2008.

Population may not overall have dropped that much  but there was a massive issue of young educated people leaving during this time.

[Milltown Row2]

Channel crossings: Albanian migrants recruited to the UK by gangs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63488070

Albanian drug gangs are using the migrant camps of northern France as a recruitment ground, offering to pay the passage of those prepared to work in the UK drugs industry on arrival, the BBC has been told.
Albanians account for around a third of the almost 40,000 people who have arrived in small boats.................

Just as well there's no Irish drug gangs, we're so much better than that!

Oh, and as for people smuggling, we Irish don't get involved in that either.

The island of Saints and Scholars indeed.

Was thon lad from Armagh who had a truck load of people he was smuggling that died?

Driver was from the other side of Armagh who are a different kind of orangemen than us Armagh gaels lol. Owner was Armagh/Monaghan border.

Ah well if he was from the other side then that's alright!!

So we aren't involved with people smuggling/slavery/murder..  Phew!!

[tyrone08]

Refugees are living in tents in the middle of winter here and direct provision is widely regarded as inhumane and people get stuck in that system for years on end, but you wouldn't think it reading comments here.

I always hear about rural Ireland dieing and all the young people leaving, but wouldn't think it reading about small towns being 'at capacity' apparently.

Apparently the UK is going to become overran with Muslims, and the UK percentage of muslims currently stands at around... a staggering... 4%... yes,  a whole... 4%...

History should not be lost on us as Irish people. America's nativist movements has its roots in anti-Irish and anti-Catholicism.
Many of the Irish and many other white immigrants to the US became integrated by embracing racism against blacks.

Just because the Irish abroad were treated like dirt, does not mean we should treat migrants in a similar manner. We should have perspective and empathy and think ourselves better than those who treated us so badly.

I'm taking the family home this summer for the first time in a decade (first time for my youngest, second for my wife and oldest).

I can't comment on the general topic as I have no direct knowledge of what is going on there, but I'm expecting a drastically changed, bursting at the seams society going by much of what is being alleged here.

It is amazing how quickly people forget how we have been on the other end of it though.

Let us know what you think of Dublin when you visit. Was in it this year for the first time in years. Put it this way it will be years before I am in it again.

Do explain.
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Massive amounts of homeless and beggars. Yes every major city has issues but I was taken aback at how bad it was. The streets were stinking and the smell of urine walking past the side  streets was unreal. This was around Grafton street.

[johnnycool]

Channel crossings: Albanian migrants recruited to the UK by gangs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63488070

Albanian drug gangs are using the migrant camps of northern France as a recruitment ground, offering to pay the passage of those prepared to work in the UK drugs industry on arrival, the BBC has been told.
Albanians account for around a third of the almost 40,000 people who have arrived in small boats.................

Just as well there's no Irish drug gangs, we're so much better than that!

Oh, and as for people smuggling, we Irish don't get involved in that either.

The island of Saints and Scholars indeed.

Aye we have to keep our own unfortunately. Let's maybe put ads out for more Albanian drug gangs, we haven't enough.

Are you concerned that these Albanian drug gangs "are coming over here and taking our work"?

[Rossfan]

influx of refugees and illegal immigrants  was always

Who  are "illegal immigrants"
Are they failed asylum seekers who go into hiding? Are they people who stayed beyond their visas?
Are they people who came ashore in the middle of the night?

[Armagh18]

Channel crossings: Albanian migrants recruited to the UK by gangs

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63488070

Albanian drug gangs are using the migrant camps of northern France as a recruitment ground, offering to pay the passage of those prepared to work in the UK drugs industry on arrival, the BBC has been told.
Albanians account for around a third of the almost 40,000 people who have arrived in small boats.................

Just as well there's no Irish drug gangs, we're so much better than that!

Oh, and as for people smuggling, we Irish don't get involved in that either.

The island of Saints and Scholars indeed.

Was thon lad from Armagh who had a truck load of people he was smuggling that died?

Driver was from the other side of Armagh who are a different kind of orangemen than us Armagh gaels lol. Owner was Armagh/Monaghan border.

Ah well if he was from the other side then that's alright!!

So we aren't involved with people smuggling/slavery/murder..  Phew!!

What are you on about now lol.
Looks like we've enough of our own scumbags without importing more