East wall #Irelandisfull

[AustinPowers]

Agree with a lot  of that , Rudi

It's unfortunate the situation Ukrainians find themselves  in , but many thousands are here. And while  a lot of them may well be in sub standard accommodations,  it's a hell of a lot better  than it is for the many homeless Irish people living on the street,  and I don't see the same effort  being made to help them

[Milltown Row2]

Agree with a lot  of that , Rudi

It's unfortunate the situation Ukrainians find themselves  in , but many thousands are here. And while  a lot of them may well be in sub standard accommodations,  it's a hell of a lot better  than it is for the many homeless Irish people living on the street,  and I don't see the same effort  being made to help them

Some would say living on the street is a choice for a lot of people

[J70]

That's a talking point you hear a lot in the US too.

So are those who oppose the accommodating of asylum seekers on those grounds actually involved in helping the homeless in Ireland?

What do the homeless advocacy charities and organizations have to say about refugees?

[Rudi]

Agree with a lot  of that , Rudi

It's unfortunate the situation Ukrainians find themselves  in , but many thousands are here. And while  a lot of them may well be in sub standard accommodations,  it's a hell of a lot better  than it is for the many homeless Irish people living on the street,  and I don't see the same effort  being made to help them

I would agree to a point, a fair lot of our homeless are drug addicts who dont want to be helped or housed.
I wonder what FrPeter McVery makes of the whole situation.

[general_lee]

That's a talking point you hear a lot in the US too.

So are those who oppose the accommodating of asylum seekers on those grounds actually involved in helping the homeless in Ireland?

What do the homeless advocacy charities and organizations have to say about refugees?

I encounter a lot of homeless in Belfast and the reality is most, if not all, have a roof over their head if they so wish. a lot are suffering addiction and to score the next hit they need to be out on the streets after curfew.

[Blowitupref]

The latest Census showed 166,752 vacant properties in Ireland. Yet it's full?

[Rudi]

The latest Census showed 166,752 vacant properties in Ireland. Yet it's full?

In terms of essential resources the country is full. Many classes in schools exceeding the teacher pupil ratio of 1 : 30. Ratio of GP to patient ratio exceeded, lack of hospital beds. Ratio of Police to ordinary civilian ratio exceeded.
Our sewage / drinking water supplies are exceeded. Social workers for peoples mental health etc etc, trains, buses. Your not looking at the full picture, looking at a very small picture.
I would question whats classed as a vacant property, many of these are probably not fit for purpose & you can't force someone to rent / sell their property.
You also need social areas, gyms, swimming pools, meeting rooms, otherwise people will go mad & partake in anti social activity.

[Walter Cronc]

East Wall (and others) is FG infiltration of the working class to take attention away from the real issues!

[Milltown Row2]

A lot of things can/should be done, a simple assessment should have been carried out and people allocated to areas that could facilitate the numbers being brought in, once that was reached then unfortunately it wasn't viable for either the Ukrainians or the towns and cities to help them better

Any illegals should be interviewed and assessed, if they are genuine refugees then they should be catered for, any chancers should be given the options of going home or stay and contribute to the area, jobs, paying taxes and so on.


Ireland has thousands of people that have left this place and contributed to other countries over the years, why can't we do the same

[Blowitupref]

The latest Census showed 166,752 vacant properties in Ireland. Yet it's full?

In terms of essential resources the country is full. Many classes in schools exceeding the teacher pupil ratio of 1 : 30. Ratio of GP to patient ratio exceeded, lack of hospital beds. Ratio of Police to ordinary civilian ratio exceeded.
Our sewage / drinking water supplies are exceeded. Social workers for peoples mental health etc etc, trains, buses. Your not looking at the full picture, looking at a very small picture.
I would question whats classed as a vacant property, many of these are probably not fit for purpose & you can't force someone to rent / sell their property.
You also need social areas, gyms, swimming pools, meeting rooms, otherwise people will go mad & partake in anti social activity.

A lot of those things you outline has been a issue on this island for decades. Not near full just a poorly run country.

[AustinPowers]

That's a talking point you hear a lot in the US too.

So are those who oppose the accommodating of asylum seekers on those grounds actually involved in helping the homeless in Ireland?

What do the homeless advocacy charities and organizations have to say about refugees?

I encounter a lot of homeless in Belfast and the reality is most, if not all, have a roof over their head if they so wish. a lot are suffering addiction and to score the next hit they need to be out on the streets after curfew.

Yes I suppose a  lot of them are addict s, but some maybe lost a job/divorced etc  and couldn't afford astronomical rents  on their own

I suppose  solving the drug  crisis is another matter entirely though. 

[Milltown Row2]

That's a talking point you hear a lot in the US too.

So are those who oppose the accommodating of asylum seekers on those grounds actually involved in helping the homeless in Ireland?

What do the homeless advocacy charities and organizations have to say about refugees?

I encounter a lot of homeless in Belfast and the reality is most, if not all, have a roof over their head if they so wish. a lot are suffering addiction and to score the next hit they need to be out on the streets after curfew.

Yes I suppose a  lot of them are addict s, but some maybe lost a job/divorced etc  and couldn't afford astronomical rents  on their own

I suppose  solving the drug  crisis is another matter entirely though.

Its drugs and alcohol, not getting divorced or losing jobs

[Rudi]

The latest Census showed 166,752 vacant properties in Ireland. Yet it's full?

In terms of essential resources the country is full. Many classes in schools exceeding the teacher pupil ratio of 1 : 30. Ratio of GP to patient ratio exceeded, lack of hospital beds. Ratio of Police to ordinary civilian ratio exceeded.
Our sewage / drinking water supplies are exceeded. Social workers for peoples mental health etc etc, trains, buses. Your not looking at the full picture, looking at a very small picture.
I would question whats classed as a vacant property, many of these are probably not fit for purpose & you can't force someone to rent / sell their property.
You also need social areas, gyms, swimming pools, meeting rooms, otherwise people will go mad & partake in anti social activity.

A lot of those things you outline has been a issue on this island for decades. Not near full just a poorly run country.

But its not going to change ..........
This poor lady should not have died

https://gript.ie/where-is-the-national-outcry-over-aoife-johnstons-death-at-a-limerick-hospital/

[whitey]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone one here ever rented out a property they own?

Was your experience good, bad or neutral?

(I'm just curious as to why there's 166K vacant properties in a country with a housing shortage)

[shark]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone one here ever rented out a property they own?

Was your experience good, bad or neutral?

(I'm just curious as to why there's 166K vacant properties in a country with a housing shortage)

I did. Bought an apartment in Dublin , and lived in it. Went abroad for a while so rented it out. When I came back I moved back in with my wife, once the 5 months (I think) notice period had passed. Tenant had left the place in rag order. C'est la vie. Moved out again as we needed more space. Didn't bother renting it out for about 18 months before eventually deciding to sell it. Left money on the table , but not that much. And I just couldn't have been bothered being a landlord. Would probably make more long term sense to hold on it it ; but it's a pain in the hole.
(Also, the highest bidder - who we obviously sold to - was a Cypriot based institutional investor)