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Earlier Championship

Success
16 (33.3%)
Failure
13 (27.1%)
Too early to say
19 (39.6%)

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #90 on: May 22, 2022, 02:58:56 PM »
By "GAA" do you mean inter Co Championships or a mixture of inter Co and Club Championships?
Wasn't the operation of the latter system what had everyone moaning about fixtures, setting up CPA etc?
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The GAA brought in 2 major changes.  The shorter season and the April start. They should review the operation of both
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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #91 on: May 22, 2022, 03:02:27 PM »
Soccer is global sport thats is played throughtout the year  so gaa would be in competition with it any time of the year really and up against a major championship every 2 years (exemption this year because the world cup in november)
English soccer is what counts in Ireland. It has its close season in June, July and part of August.
The World Cup aNd Euros typically take place in June. Which would coincide with end stages of all Irelands . Which is suboptimal.
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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #92 on: May 22, 2022, 07:51:26 PM »
The hurling lads on Sunday game discussed it and said the same, it should be changed back

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #93 on: May 23, 2022, 08:05:52 AM »
Not sure what all the fuss is about. Soccer and rugby are done for the summer (after the two euro finals next Saturday). GAA has a complete monopoly on sports for June and July. Then club has top billing from August onwards. That is literally what the majority were asking for.

A lot of hullabaloo is because Tipp are out so soon in the hurling. Boo hoo, they were shite and deserved to be gone.

This is the upcoming fixture list:

May 28/29: Provincial finals and Tailteann 1st round
June 4/5: Qualifiers 1 and Tailteann QF
June 11/12: Qualifiers 2
June 19: Tailteann SF
June 25/26: All Ireland QF
July 2/3: [hurling semi finals]
July 9/10: All Ireland semis, Tailteann final, minor final (double bill each day)
July 17: All Ireland hurling final
July 24: All Ireland football final

That’s fantastic. 9 weekends in a row. And apart from the first one, GAA is the only show in town.


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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #94 on: May 23, 2022, 08:08:27 AM »
Not sure what all the fuss is about. Soccer and rugby are done for the summer (after the two euro finals next Saturday). GAA has a complete monopoly on sports for June and July. Then club has top billing from August onwards. That is literally what the majority were asking for.

A lot of hullabaloo is because Tipp are out so soon in the hurling. Boo hoo, they were shite and deserved to be gone.

This is the upcoming fixture list:

May 28/29: Provincial finals and Tailteann 1st round
June 4/5: Qualifiers 1 and Tailteann QF
June 11/12: Qualifiers 2
June 19: Tailteann SF
June 25/26: All Ireland QF
July 2/3: [hurling semi finals]
July 9/10: All Ireland semis, Tailteann final, minor final (double bill each day)
July 17: All Ireland hurling final
July 24: All Ireland football final

That’s fantastic. 9 weekends in a row. And apart from the first one, GAA is the only show in town.

Best post on this thread so far.

The number of people who’ve convinced themselves that the early rounds of the championship taking place in the month of May is a new direction for the GAA, is absolutely bewildering.

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #95 on: May 23, 2022, 09:00:53 AM »
Not sure what all the fuss is about. Soccer and rugby are done for the summer (after the two euro finals next Saturday). GAA has a complete monopoly on sports for June and July. Then club has top billing from August onwards. That is literally what the majority were asking for.

A lot of hullabaloo is because Tipp are out so soon in the hurling. Boo hoo, they were shite and deserved to be gone.

This is the upcoming fixture list:

May 28/29: Provincial finals and Tailteann 1st round
June 4/5: Qualifiers 1 and Tailteann QF
June 11/12: Qualifiers 2
June 19: Tailteann SF
June 25/26: All Ireland QF
July 2/3: [hurling semi finals]
July 9/10: All Ireland semis, Tailteann final, minor final (double bill each day)
July 17: All Ireland hurling final
July 24: All Ireland football final

That’s fantastic. 9 weekends in a row. And apart from the first one, GAA is the only show in town.

Rugby regular season is done. The playoffs are still to come over June

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #96 on: May 23, 2022, 09:20:15 AM »
Not sure what all the fuss is about. Soccer and rugby are done for the summer (after the two euro finals next Saturday). GAA has a complete monopoly on sports for June and July. Then club has top billing from August onwards. That is literally what the majority were asking for.

A lot of hullabaloo is because Tipp are out so soon in the hurling. Boo hoo, they were shite and deserved to be gone.

This is the upcoming fixture list:

May 28/29: Provincial finals and Tailteann 1st round
June 4/5: Qualifiers 1 and Tailteann QF
June 11/12: Qualifiers 2
June 19: Tailteann SF
June 25/26: All Ireland QF
July 2/3: [hurling semi finals]
July 9/10: All Ireland semis, Tailteann final, minor final (double bill each day)
July 17: All Ireland hurling final
July 24: All Ireland football final

That’s fantastic. 9 weekends in a row. And apart from the first one, GAA is the only show in town.
Only because the World Cup is in Qatar in December. FIFA corruption is a separate issue.

2024 Euros take place between 14 June – 14 July. Every 2 years this will happen because of the nature of soccer seasons.
Running the feature games of the all Ireland hurling and football between 14 June – 14 July is insane.
BTW the GAA has changed the football championship 5 times in the last 6 seasons so coherence isn't necessarily a feature.
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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #97 on: May 23, 2022, 09:51:50 AM »
Not sure what all the fuss is about. Soccer and rugby are done for the summer (after the two euro finals next Saturday). GAA has a complete monopoly on sports for June and July. Then club has top billing from August onwards. That is literally what the majority were asking for.

A lot of hullabaloo is because Tipp are out so soon in the hurling. Boo hoo, they were shite and deserved to be gone.

This is the upcoming fixture list:

May 28/29: Provincial finals and Tailteann 1st round
June 4/5: Qualifiers 1 and Tailteann QF
June 11/12: Qualifiers 2
June 19: Tailteann SF
June 25/26: All Ireland QF
July 2/3: [hurling semi finals]
July 9/10: All Ireland semis, Tailteann final, minor final (double bill each day)
July 17: All Ireland hurling final
July 24: All Ireland football final

That’s fantastic. 9 weekends in a row. And apart from the first one, GAA is the only show in town.
Only because the World Cup is in Qatar in December. FIFA corruption is a separate issue.

2024 Euros take place between 14 June – 14 July. Every 2 years this will happen because of the nature of soccer seasons.
Running the feature games of the all Ireland hurling and football between 14 June – 14 July is insane.
BTW the GAA has changed the football championship 5 times in the last 6 seasons so coherence isn't necessarily a feature.

So what? Who is more important ; the club player who actually plays the sport , or the punter who won’t go to their county’s championship game because Germany are playing Ghana on tv?
This obsession with other sports is so weird.

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #98 on: May 23, 2022, 09:57:09 AM »
Not sure what all the fuss is about. Soccer and rugby are done for the summer (after the two euro finals next Saturday). GAA has a complete monopoly on sports for June and July. Then club has top billing from August onwards. That is literally what the majority were asking for.

A lot of hullabaloo is because Tipp are out so soon in the hurling. Boo hoo, they were shite and deserved to be gone.

This is the upcoming fixture list:

May 28/29: Provincial finals and Tailteann 1st round
June 4/5: Qualifiers 1 and Tailteann QF
June 11/12: Qualifiers 2
June 19: Tailteann SF
June 25/26: All Ireland QF
July 2/3: [hurling semi finals]
July 9/10: All Ireland semis, Tailteann final, minor final (double bill each day)
July 17: All Ireland hurling final
July 24: All Ireland football final

That’s fantastic. 9 weekends in a row. And apart from the first one, GAA is the only show in town.
Only because the World Cup is in Qatar in December. FIFA corruption is a separate issue.

2024 Euros take place between 14 June – 14 July. Every 2 years this will happen because of the nature of soccer seasons.
Running the feature games of the all Ireland hurling and football between 14 June – 14 July is insane.
BTW the GAA has changed the football championship 5 times in the last 6 seasons so coherence isn't necessarily a feature.
Insane?? Talk about an over reaction. Hounds and Sharks posts are bang on.

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #99 on: May 23, 2022, 11:50:09 AM »
33 Football and 9 hurley stuff games to come.
Who couldn't be excited?
Now if we could have a new name on Sam....or at least someone whose name hasn't been on it for a long time...like 78 years....
As for hurling a Wexford win would be nice!
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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #100 on: May 23, 2022, 01:18:27 PM »
The HURLING MEN who suddenly care about Westmeath hurlers...They are talking about Westmeath hurlers on an RTÉ show that has never in my memory put them on telly live.

GPA original Donal Og is now on board for a games promotion argument in spite of the fact that players at all levels are keen on a split season.

Can anyone confirm when the Dub hurling championship is starting as I see lads on Twitter contradicting the Sept statement?

Now games promotion is the big worry even though most GAA players can't talk to media during the season bar crappy press nights. Like we lose so many youngsters every year to simply giving up and we are worried about the Premier League and Munster Rugby?!

Let's be honest the fun is only starting now!



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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #101 on: May 23, 2022, 02:08:27 PM »
The HURLING MEN who suddenly care about Westmeath hurlers...They are talking about Westmeath hurlers on an RTÉ show that has never in my memory put them on telly live.

GPA original Donal Og is now on board for a games promotion argument in spite of the fact that players at all levels are keen on a split season.

Can anyone confirm when the Dub hurling championship is starting as I see lads on Twitter contradicting the Sept statement?

Now games promotion is the big worry even though most GAA players can't talk to media during the season bar crappy press nights. Like we lose so many youngsters every year to simply giving up and we are worried that the Premier League and Munster Rugby?!

Let's be honest the fun is only starting now!

Exactly. The "other sports" argument is not based on anything real. It's a bogeyman. Idleness is the competition - not other sports.
This entire argument is being pushed really hard by RTE and others in media - it's so transparent. Pretending they give two hoots about the Westmeath hurlers, when they shot their game against Wexford through the back end of a telescope. Almost every single player on the Westmeath hurling panel is a club footballer too. The majority with senior clubs. They have, at a minimum, 11 championship games ahead of them between hurling and football. Their season is far from over.

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #102 on: May 23, 2022, 08:57:26 PM »
The HURLING MEN who suddenly care about Westmeath hurlers...They are talking about Westmeath hurlers on an RTÉ show that has never in my memory put them on telly live.

GPA original Donal Og is now on board for a games promotion argument in spite of the fact that players at all levels are keen on a split season.

Can anyone confirm when the Dub hurling championship is starting as I see lads on Twitter contradicting the Sept statement?

Now games promotion is the big worry even though most GAA players can't talk to media during the season bar crappy press nights. Like we lose so many youngsters every year to simply giving up and we are worried that the Premier League and Munster Rugby?!


Let's be honest the fun is only starting now!

Exactly. The "other sports" argument is not based on anything real. It's a bogeyman. Idleness is the competition - not other sports.
This entire argument is being pushed really hard by RTE and others in media - it's so transparent. Pretending they give two hoots about the Westmeath hurlers, when they shot their game against Wexford through the back end of a telescope. Almost every single player on the Westmeath hurling panel is a club footballer too. The majority with senior clubs. They have, at a minimum, 11 championship games ahead of them between hurling and football. Their season is far from over.

Not in June/July during a World Cup/euros. RTE sell ad space based on TAM ratings.  TV sport is competitive.
The GAA has a shop window and it's handing it over in August/September.
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« Reply #103 on: May 23, 2022, 09:24:56 PM »
The HURLING MEN who suddenly care about Westmeath hurlers...They are talking about Westmeath hurlers on an RTÉ show that has never in my memory put them on telly live.

GPA original Donal Og is now on board for a games promotion argument in spite of the fact that players at all levels are keen on a split season.

Can anyone confirm when the Dub hurling championship is starting as I see lads on Twitter contradicting the Sept statement?

Now games promotion is the big worry even though most GAA players can't talk to media during the season bar crappy press nights. Like we lose so many youngsters every year to simply giving up and we are worried that the Premier League and Munster Rugby?!


Let's be honest the fun is only starting now!

Exactly. The "other sports" argument is not based on anything real. It's a bogeyman. Idleness is the competition - not other sports.
This entire argument is being pushed really hard by RTE and others in media - it's so transparent. Pretending they give two hoots about the Westmeath hurlers, when they shot their game against Wexford through the back end of a telescope. Almost every single player on the Westmeath hurling panel is a club footballer too. The majority with senior clubs. They have, at a minimum, 11 championship games ahead of them between hurling and football. Their season is far from over.

Not in June/July during a World Cup/euros. RTE sell ad space based on TAM ratings.  TV sport is competitive.
The GAA has a shop window and it's handing it over in August/September.

Wait, I thought the “shop window” argument was about capturing the hearts and minds of the nation. About the kids who’ll otherwise spend their time playing other sports and the GAA would be fecked.
Now that I hear it’s about advertisement space. Why do the RTE panellists not make this argument? As they’d lose all credibility immediately.
GAA is a sporting organisation, not a business. The people who actually play the sport came together to make this change happen. It was long overdue.

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Re: Is the earlier Championship a success or failure?
« Reply #104 on: May 23, 2022, 11:49:26 PM »
The HURLING MEN who suddenly care about Westmeath hurlers...They are talking about Westmeath hurlers on an RTÉ show that has never in my memory put them on telly live.

GPA original Donal Og is now on board for a games promotion argument in spite of the fact that players at all levels are keen on a split season.

Can anyone confirm when the Dub hurling championship is starting as I see lads on Twitter contradicting the Sept statement?

Now games promotion is the big worry even though most GAA players can't talk to media during the season bar crappy press nights. Like we lose so many youngsters every year to simply giving up and we are worried that the Premier League and Munster Rugby?!


Let's be honest the fun is only starting now!

Exactly. The "other sports" argument is not based on anything real. It's a bogeyman. Idleness is the competition - not other sports.
This entire argument is being pushed really hard by RTE and others in media - it's so transparent. Pretending they give two hoots about the Westmeath hurlers, when they shot their game against Wexford through the back end of a telescope. Almost every single player on the Westmeath hurling panel is a club footballer too. The majority with senior clubs. They have, at a minimum, 11 championship games ahead of them between hurling and football. Their season is far from over.

Not in June/July during a World Cup/euros. RTE sell ad space based on TAM ratings.  TV sport is competitive.
The GAA has a shop window and it's handing it over in August/September.

The GAA’s shop window is the fact that thousands of towns and villages across Ireland enjoy prime location facilities, and that kids are wired into the game from an early age through family ties, civic pride, and primary school connections.

That’s our USP. Always will be. That and the fact that you can still skelp an opponent.

We cannot compete with the EPL on their terms, using their methods. It’s daft to think we can.

As described above, our competition isn’t with other sports. The challenge is to keep going, doing what we do best. Not to compete.