Dubs v Westmeath 25 June

[macdanger2]

You think there's a good standard of pundit on TSG? 

[Syferus]

You think there's a good standard of pundit on TSG? 

I think there is no pundit in existsence this forum won't whine about. The closest we got was TG4's GAA clip shows and that's mainly because no one actually watched it - if they had he'd know the likes of Sean Ban are just as petty and shite as any RTÉ pundit you care to mention.

[macdanger2]

You think there's a good standard of pundit on TSG? 

I think there is no pundit in existsence this forum won't whine about. The closest we got was TG4's GAA clip shows and that's mainly because no one actually watched it,

So because we can't get someone that everyone would be happy with, we shouldn't complain about what we do have??

Had to turn the twats off when brolly started shiting on about "anarchy".

[From the Bunker]

Punditry is an entertainment Business. How do you think O'Rourke, Spillane and Brolly are still in the Hot seats? Most people who watch Football don't care or know what is going on in a game. They look at the scores, they look at 'Controversial' decisions they look at characters. A real analyst would more than likely be boring to the status quo. Sunday Game Analysis are a bit like X-factor Judges, they know the sound bytes of the Business. They'll talk up who they want to talk up and in equal measure they'll put down who they want to put down. It's Punch and Judy! Good Cop, Bad Cop! It's all about the story - the competitor is the sub-plot to the headline. Look at the last couple of weeks - Bernard Flynn, Pat Spillane and the usual Brolly rant all in the headlines. All wanting the headline. RTE are only glad of this, they are selling a TV show. Just like X-factor are selling a TV show. If you get a Star singer or a good game that's a bonus.

[macdanger2]

That shit is largely gone or going in other sports though - hook is gone, Giles gone, dunphy not always on. Cunningham and Sadlier are decent and put a bit of effort in their analysis instead of just clichés. Same with Horgan & O'gara (although I wouldn't know enough about rugby to really judge them). On TSG, it's just bland (Dolan, plamas, Carr, etc) or bullshit (brolly, Spillane, o'rourke, etc)

[Gael85]

Speaking of red lines...

No one from outside  seems able to accept that at the moment Dublin have a batch of players that are once in a lifetime talented.

The fact that Aer Lingus sponsors them doesnt make Cluxton the player he is.

The likes of him and a few others will never come around again.

They will (started already) fade and whats coming down the line is no where near as special - Kildare are already beating Dublin at underage.

Arrra, g'wan outa that!
No one from the inside seems to accept that the same "once in a lifetime players talented players" got stuffed in the Leinster semi final in 2010 by the most piss-poor Meath team of all time - an embarrassment to the great Meath warriors that went before them. Remember they became Leinster champions thanks to a certain Mr. Sludden. Prior to that game Dublin had clocked up a string of Leinsters but were not serious AI contenders in any of them.
In the wake of that defeat, the "Blue Flag" initiative was undertaken and the rest is history by now. Many of those who played on that fateful day against Meath are still chugging away and if you count in those who have retired since, the number who went on to starting bagging Celtic Crosses in 2011 and subsequent years  covers just about everyone who lost that game.
So much for the talent of the players.
If talent alone was all that was needed, why are Dublin spending so much on team preparation?
Sure, I've heard the mantra that once those super players retire, they can never be replaced and Dublin will slip back into the pack once again.
Tell me, where have McCaffrey, McCarthy, Small, Fenton, Kilkenny and Costello come from? They were hardly found under a stone, were they?

Them players were already on the scene before the Blue Wave initiative which had nothing to do with Meath result. McCarthy was on bench in 2010,McCaffrey, Kilkenny, Small were first year minors, Costello was on 16s. Gilroy tweaked the training that year to peak later in season. The back door wins against Armagh and Tyrone especially gave the team huge confidence to bring us to the next level.