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Title: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on March 27, 2023, 12:39:36 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41101834.html

Predictable
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: LeoMc on March 27, 2023, 11:57:22 AM
The only thing predictable is your jumping on a GAA bashing story.

GAA should be non-political, where do you draw the line on what is an acceptable cause.
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: Rossfan on March 27, 2023, 12:09:31 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on March 27, 2023, 11:57:22 AM
The only thing predictable is your jumping on a GAA bashing story.

GAA should be non-political, where do you draw the line on what is an acceptable cause.

+1
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: From the Bunker on March 27, 2023, 12:11:23 PM
Have to say I commend the GAA on this. Stay the feck away from anything that can open a can of worms. Keep things simple.
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: RedHand88 on March 27, 2023, 12:34:23 PM
Other sports have been completely hijacked in recent years.  Good to see the GAA take this stand.
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on March 27, 2023, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on March 27, 2023, 11:57:22 AM
The only thing predictable is your jumping on a GAA bashing story.

GAA should be non-political, where do you draw the line on what is an acceptable cause.

How is this GAA bashing you nut?
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on March 27, 2023, 12:50:29 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 27, 2023, 12:11:23 PM
Have to say I commend the GAA on this. Stay the feck away from anything that can open a can of worms. Keep things simple.

Agreed. But how much did Dublin raise for the Aoibheann pink tie charity? Surely there is something in the middle short of an outright charity ban? This appears to ban black armbands - harsh
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: Mourne Red on March 27, 2023, 12:52:08 PM
I agree and disagree on this.. My own club we have cancer research on a training jersey then there's club who support heart foundation, opt for life and then Kevin Bell Trust too. I do know why they're doing it, avoid any political or ideological disagreements down the road but disappointing that health charities couldn't get an exception.

Also they ripped the arse out of GAA jerseys with the Easter rising, proclamations etc Seems a bit contradictory
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: LeoMc on March 27, 2023, 02:08:49 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on March 27, 2023, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on March 27, 2023, 11:57:22 AM
The only thing predictable is your jumping on a GAA bashing story.

GAA should be non-political, where do you draw the line on what is an acceptable cause.

How is this GAA bashing you nut?
So you are not putting up the story because you think it shows the GAA in a bad light, you agree with it?
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: general_lee on March 27, 2023, 02:36:26 PM
A fair few clubs have charities as their sponsors. Surely they could give some discretion to clubs?
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: thewobbler on March 27, 2023, 02:41:06 PM
I sincerely doubt this ban will apply to primary shirt sponsorship; that would be practically unworkable.

I imagine it's focused more on preventing the creation of additional advertising spaces on a jersey.
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: blanketattack on March 27, 2023, 02:55:28 PM
GAA: "We want to remain non-political"
GAA: *allows clubs to be named after hunger strikers and allows GAA grounds to hold hunger strike commemorations*
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 27, 2023, 02:59:47 PM
Can bring this in, but still can't sort out the gaa rulebook (priorities). They hardly non-political in relation the the North.
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: NAG1 on March 27, 2023, 03:05:01 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on March 27, 2023, 12:52:08 PM
I agree and disagree on this.. My own club we have cancer research on a training jersey then there's club who support heart foundation, opt for life and then Kevin Bell Trust too. I do know why they're doing it, avoid any political or ideological disagreements down the road but disappointing that health charities couldn't get an exception.

Also they ripped the arse out of GAA jerseys with the Easter rising, proclamations etc Seems a bit contradictory

Pretty sure these were an O'Neills corporate thing and not strictly affiliated to the GAA? was never a fan of them in general.

But yeah I think a sensible decision to curtail it, which doesnt mean that these charities wont be supported in the usual ways by GAA clubs it just will avoid a conflict of interest.
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: Mourne Red on March 27, 2023, 03:21:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 27, 2023, 03:05:01 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on March 27, 2023, 12:52:08 PM
I agree and disagree on this.. My own club we have cancer research on a training jersey then there's club who support heart foundation, opt for life and then Kevin Bell Trust too. I do know why they're doing it, avoid any political or ideological disagreements down the road but disappointing that health charities couldn't get an exception.

Also they ripped the arse out of GAA jerseys with the Easter rising, proclamations etc Seems a bit contradictory

Pretty sure these were an O'Neills corporate thing and not strictly affiliated to the GAA? was never a fan of them in general.

But yeah I think a sensible decision to curtail it, which doesnt mean that these charities wont be supported in the usual ways by GAA clubs it just will avoid a conflict of interest.

They were O'Neills cash grab you are right but surely they'd have still needed GAA approval to use the "GAA" logo on the chest.. copyright or whatever laws
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: Brendan on March 27, 2023, 07:31:52 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 27, 2023, 02:55:28 PM
GAA: "We want to remain non-political"
GAA: *allows clubs to be named after hunger strikers and allows GAA grounds to hold hunger strike commemorations*

Is it just the hunger strikers that is the problem or will we rename all the Pearses and Clarkes clubs?
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: blanketattack on March 27, 2023, 11:44:05 PM
Quote from: Brendan on March 27, 2023, 07:31:52 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 27, 2023, 02:55:28 PM
GAA: "We want to remain non-political"
GAA: *allows clubs to be named after hunger strikers and allows GAA grounds to hold hunger strike commemorations*

Is it just the hunger strikers that is the problem or will we rename all the Pearses and Clarkes clubs?

It's the hypocrisy of claiming to be non-political when it suits that's the problem.
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 27, 2023, 11:49:05 PM
Did the new Pres not say an objective of his time in office was improving relations with the unionists, drop national anthem etc
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: RedHand88 on March 28, 2023, 09:06:31 AM
https://www.newstalk.com/news/joe-brolly-genuine-rage-among-gaa-supporters-over-ban-on-charities-1450138 (https://www.newstalk.com/news/joe-brolly-genuine-rage-among-gaa-supporters-over-ban-on-charities-1450138)

Not sure I agree with Joe on this when he says the GAA could look at requests on a case by case basis. Who gets to decide what is politically acceptable?
Would for example, Help for Heroes be acceptable for an English club?
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: clarshack on March 28, 2023, 09:23:08 AM
It's the correct call by the GAA on this.
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: johnnycool on March 28, 2023, 09:51:46 AM
Quote from: Mourne Red on March 27, 2023, 03:21:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 27, 2023, 03:05:01 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on March 27, 2023, 12:52:08 PM
I agree and disagree on this.. My own club we have cancer research on a training jersey then there's club who support heart foundation, opt for life and then Kevin Bell Trust too. I do know why they're doing it, avoid any political or ideological disagreements down the road but disappointing that health charities couldn't get an exception.

Also they ripped the arse out of GAA jerseys with the Easter rising, proclamations etc Seems a bit contradictory

Pretty sure these were an O'Neills corporate thing and not strictly affiliated to the GAA? was never a fan of them in general.

But yeah I think a sensible decision to curtail it, which doesnt mean that these charities wont be supported in the usual ways by GAA clubs it just will avoid a conflict of interest.

They were O'Neills cash grab you are right but surely they'd have still needed GAA approval to use the "GAA" logo on the chest.. copyright or whatever laws

I don't think the GAA logo is on those jerseys.
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: RedHand88 on March 28, 2023, 10:10:43 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 28, 2023, 09:51:46 AM
Quote from: Mourne Red on March 27, 2023, 03:21:27 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 27, 2023, 03:05:01 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on March 27, 2023, 12:52:08 PM
I agree and disagree on this.. My own club we have cancer research on a training jersey then there's club who support heart foundation, opt for life and then Kevin Bell Trust too. I do know why they're doing it, avoid any political or ideological disagreements down the road but disappointing that health charities couldn't get an exception.

Also they ripped the arse out of GAA jerseys with the Easter rising, proclamations etc Seems a bit contradictory

Pretty sure these were an O'Neills corporate thing and not strictly affiliated to the GAA? was never a fan of them in general.

But yeah I think a sensible decision to curtail it, which doesnt mean that these charities wont be supported in the usual ways by GAA clubs it just will avoid a conflict of interest.

They were O'Neills cash grab you are right but surely they'd have still needed GAA approval to use the "GAA" logo on the chest.. copyright or whatever laws

I don't think the GAA logo is on those jerseys.

No GAA logo,  just the oneills logo.
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: Taylor on March 28, 2023, 11:08:12 AM
The Easter Rising, proclamation & all of the farming/tractor jerseys are abominations
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 28, 2023, 01:05:30 PM
Quote from: Taylor on March 28, 2023, 11:08:12 AM
The Easter Rising, proclamation & all of the farming/tractor jerseys are abominations

I don't mind the tractor one. The dog and cat ones tho......

People must buy them. O'Neills aren't stupid.
I believe the ploughing championship jerseys are one of O'Neills biggest sellers. 
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: Snapchap on March 29, 2023, 09:22:18 AM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 27, 2023, 02:55:28 PM
GAA: "We want to remain non-political"
GAA: *allows clubs to be named after hunger strikers and allows GAA grounds to hold hunger strike commemorations*

Or allows a recently retired Mayo footballer to launch his Fine Gael election campaign with a video of himself kicking a ball around an empty McHale Park in a full Mayo kit?

Or allows GAA club to host a Fine Gael BBQ?
Title: Re: Ban on Charity Kit
Post by: seafoid on March 29, 2023, 09:39:05 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on March 27, 2023, 12:39:36 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41101834.html

Predictable
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/03/29/curbs-of-charity-logos-on-gaa-jerseys-causes-confusion/
The GAA say charity logos will still be allowed to appear on jerseys – but only if they are registered as a designated shirt sponsor at the start of the year.

However, counties will no longer be permitted to accede to requests for one-off changes mid-season to promote a charity or local cause.