The Many Faces of US Politics...

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seafoid

Quote from: stew on March 24, 2018, 09:04:39 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 24, 2018, 09:00:43 PM
Quote from: stew on March 24, 2018, 08:49:17 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 24, 2018, 02:38:26 AM
I see the sc**bag has tried to implement his transgender military ban again .... at 930pm on a Friday night.


The Democrats have pulled that late night shite plenty of times too Gab, dont play that card ffs!

The man is a politician, what more would you expect? He is simply trying to do what he thinks is best for the American fighting men and women, no more no less.
He is not a politician

He bloody well is, he has been in office as POTUS for over a year, he is a politician.
He is a narcissist who can't concentrate.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

whitey

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 24, 2018, 02:38:26 AM
I see the sc**bag has tried to implement his transgender military ban again .... at 930pm on a Friday night.

Hmmm......don't think it will cost him one single solitary vote. That issue would matter to a very small percentage of the electorate imho.....and they're not the type of people who'd vote for him anyway

heganboy

Don't think Stormy interview will cost him one vote either.

Question is who is there can get get the others to cast their vote?

Also can't see much there for Meuller. Fixer maybe in a spot of bother but not a lot.

A bust you could say. Only interesting if there is actually evidence...
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

whitey

Quote from: heganboy on March 26, 2018, 01:24:33 AM
Don't think Stormy interview will cost him one vote either.

Question is who is there can get get the others to cast their vote?

Also can't see much there for Meuller. Fixer maybe in a spot of bother but not a lot.

A bust you could say. Only interesting if there is actually evidence...

If the Democrats dont smarten up and start addressing real issues, he has a good chance of beating them in 2020.   

Sorry, but most people dont give 2 fvcks that Trump congratulated Putin, or that he banged a hot blonde 12 years ago , or that gender confused people cant serve in the military, or that Trump says mankind instead of human kind, or that he did whatever else he supposedly did.

The Democrats put all the chips on the table with the collusion story and I think hes going to bat that away like a midge.

Facebook wont be able to help either candidate next time out either.

Truth doesnt matter anymore.....what people think is the truth matters

mrdeeds

The fact the PTOUS has essentially cheated on all three of his wives and he's still considered a President of family values tells you all you need to know about American Politics. It's two counties is it not.

whitey

Quote from: mrdeeds on March 26, 2018, 02:01:35 AM
The fact the PTOUS has essentially cheated on all three of his wives and he's still considered a President of family values tells you all you need to know about American Politics. It's two counties is it not.


I dont think anyone ever said he was the President of family values.  The Republicans claim to be the party of family values and he hijacked their nomination.  Either way, if family values are your thing, Trumps supreme court picks would be a heck of a lot more palatable than Hillarys

Jell 0 Biafra

Not for my family values, by a long shot.

seafoid

Quote from: heganboy on March 26, 2018, 01:24:33 AM
Don't think Stormy interview will cost him one vote either.

Question is who is there can get get the others to cast their vote?

Also can't see much there for Meuller. Fixer maybe in a spot of bother but not a lot.

A bust you could say. Only interesting if there is actually evidence...
The GOP need more than 50% of votes and that means getting women to vote for Trump. 30% comprising  déplorables and evangelicals will follow instructions no matter what happens. MAGA. Collège educated women are less tolerant of all the chaos. I bet he will try a war in 2019.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

Quote from: mrdeeds on March 26, 2018, 02:01:35 AM
The fact the PTOUS has essentially cheated on all three of his wives and he's still considered a President of family values tells you all you need to know about American Politics. It's two counties is it not.

Trump charmed the evangelicals who usually go for family values

http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-apotheosis-of-donald-j.-trump/article/2011600

There is, though, one obvious piece of evidence from the president's political career that suggests his dealmaking reputation might be deserved after all: the relationship he has with evangelical political leaders. He has lavished them with attention and let them bask in his celebrity star-power, things that they, long feeling like outsiders in American culture and politics, have badly craved. In exchange, they have thrown him their support—unconditional support, by all appearances—and with it, the backing of a political constituency vital to his success at the polls.

In The Faith of Donald J. Trump, authors David Brody and Scott Lamb provide an in-depth look at the relationship between the president and American evangelicals. Brody and Lamb—respectively a newscaster with Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network and a vice president at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University—have written what they dub a "spiritual biography," even though they come right out and say they have no intention of answering the question of whether Trump is a Christian. Instead, they hope to convey his faith through his actions.

In the process, though, Brody and Lamb inadvertently expose the corruption and moral vacuity of the political evangelical movement in the United States.

Trump only started paying attention to evangelicals once he began to consider running for president—some five or more years before the 2016 campaign. He made a show of cozying up to evangelical pastors who write books that usually don't sell well outside their own congregations. He reached out to the prosperity-gospel heretic Paula White and flattered her. He asked questions of other religious leaders.

As his ambitions grew, Trump cannily cultivated relationships with evangelicals, and they convinced themselves that those relationships must be sincere since they began before he openly started campaigning for the presidency. Once he did start openly campaigning, the outreach only became more intensive. As Brody and Lamb report, Trump would seek out the preachers to sit next to at events. He would bring his mother's Bible to meetings to show it off. Evangelicals fell for it. So deluded and distracted are they by the trappings of power, they do not even see what Brody and Lamb see. "He's the P. T. Barnum of the 21st century," an anonymous banker in the book says of Donald Trump. These evangelical leaders have yet to realize that they are the suckers.

In the end, Brody and Lamb's book exposes how the leaders of the evangelical movement, long treated as outcasts from mainstream culture because of the charlatans in their midst, now enjoy an utterly transactional relationship with Donald Trump, each using the other for an end they believe justifies the means. The long-term damage to the American evangelical movement, which has spent decades working toward respectability and intellectual seriousness, remains to be seen. And a president in need of a savior is surrounded by men and women of faith who are more interested in doing business with him than calling him to repent so that his eternal soul might be saved.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

whitey

Quote from: seafoid on March 26, 2018, 06:28:48 AM
Quote from: heganboy on March 26, 2018, 01:24:33 AM
Don't think Stormy interview will cost him one vote either.

Question is who is there can get get the others to cast their vote?

Also can't see much there for Meuller. Fixer maybe in a spot of bother but not a lot.

A bust you could say. Only interesting if there is actually evidence...
The GOP need more than 50% of votes and that means getting women to vote for Trump. 30% comprising  déplorables and evangelicals will follow instructions no matter what happens. MAGA. Collège educated women are less tolerant of all the chaos. I bet he will try a war in 2019.

College educated white women swung the tide in his favor in the 2016 swing states so it's very hard to know.  A lot depends on who the Democrats nominate

I see a civil war coming in the Democratic Party. As Conor Lamb proved, to swing the house and the senate they need centrists not extremists. There's going to be a lot of centrists elected in 2018 who will not want to get behind an extreme candidate

heganboy

Remember that the GOP does not need anywhere near 50% of the vote.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

Denn Forever

I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

J70

Quote from: Denn Forever on March 26, 2018, 11:55:49 AM
Interesting idea to pervent school shootings.  Peg rocks at the shooter.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/pennsylvania-school-district-has-a-plan-to-deal-with-a-shooter-rocks.html?utm_content=inf_994_2641_2&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=socialedge&utm_source=Facebook&tse_id=INF_f31d8810303c11e8b9d75bd203d5435d

I've been through a few active shooter trainings/exercises, and the advice is, if in the situation where you are confronted with the shooter and have no option for escape, to grab whatever the f**k is handy and throw it at him, whether its a computer monitor or stapler or whatever.

seafoid


Ari Berman

@AriBerman

Dems need to win popular vote by 11 points to take back House in 2018 because of extreme gerrymandering, according to new report by @BrennanCenter. That is insanely undemocratic (link: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/democrats-would-need-to-trounce-republicans-to-overcome-gerrymandering-and-take-the-house/) motherjones.com/politics/2018/... via @pemalevy

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

whitey

Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 07:35:25 AM

Ari Berman

@AriBerman

Dems need to win popular vote by 11 points to take back House in 2018 because of extreme gerrymandering, according to new report by @BrennanCenter. That is insanely undemocratic (link: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/democrats-would-need-to-trounce-republicans-to-overcome-gerrymandering-and-take-the-house/) motherjones.com/politics/2018/... via @pemalevy

Contrary to what Democrats will tell you, they also engage in Gerrymandering

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/06/supreme-court-gerrymandering-democrats-obsession-215686