Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[TwoUpTwoDown]

I have no issue with Errigal fielding a team in Div3, if they have the numbers to do so then good for them.

For me there have been 2 issues this year. Firstly players that played for Errigal senior or senior reserve championship in 2017 were eligible to play for the junior reserve championship due to the fact they had not played junior championship in 2017 and the county board considered them to be two different teams, which in anybody's reckoning is a farce. The fact that they beat us so easily in the reserve championship and we are top of the reserve league tells it's own story. Many of these same players will line out for Errigal III in the junior championship too.

Secondly and on a more general note, there were several clubs who were unable to play players in the reserve championship who have played reserve league all year due to the fact that they played in the junior championship in 2017 (probably as a sub) and are now unlikely to get any championship football. This needs to be addressed by the county board as it deprives players of playing the main type of football that any player trains so hard for.

Couple of points stand out above. Are both clubs not top of the reserve league together? I think from memory that reserve league meeting between both, you drew? On top of that it was a midweek game, with a lot of Red Knight seniors playing following the game at the weekend, a bit hypocritical to be harsh of one team exploiting a rule in one competition when Beragh were guilty of the same in a separate competition, with the aim of giving their reserves a better chance of winning the league.

The system is undoubtedly flawed. Nobody is arguing that, but I think to point the finger solely at Errigal IIIs here is wrong. Every club will play eligible senior players in Reserve Championship if they did not get cup tied the previous year. A quick look at the Castlederg team photo from the other evening proves this also. The system of naming 12 starred players, that were unable to play reserve football, worked best. Stops the overstacking of teams with players that would normally be first team players.

The world is not perfect, but this negativity towards a club that is doing a fantastic job at retaining players,  is nothing short of embarrassing. 

[GJL]

Also, there's only ever been one club for the parish of Errigal Ciaran which comprises of 4 TOWNLANDS. It was previously named Ballygawley St Ciarans.

A club able to field four adult mens football teams comprised of just four townlands would be pretty damn impressive! However the parish of Errigal Kerogue has around 60 townlands if my half-arsed research is correct**. Rather there are four "areas" of the parish that haven't any official recognition but usually come about as such due to some collective factor.

Also, there has never "only ever been one club for the parish of Errigal Ciaran" as there was Ballygawley St. Ciaran's and the unaffiliated Glencull St. Malachy's from modern history, the two clubs merging to form Errigal Ciaran.  Probably some other clubs have existed in the area before, usually these are from the early decades of the 20th century when the GAA in Tyrone was commonly in a flux up until around 1932/33.



** Detractors I'm sure will point out that Errigal's effective "catchment" is a bit more than this, but they're not the only ones whose effective catchment spills out beyond parish boundaries. As an example, Seskinore lies in the same parish as Beragh but most football players from there come to Fintona as it lies closer to the village than Beragh itself.

As Trump would say.... Fake News!

[Frank_The_Tank]

Also, there's only ever been one club for the parish of Errigal Ciaran which comprises of 4 TOWNLANDS. It was previously named Ballygawley St Ciarans.

A club able to field four adult mens football teams comprised of just four townlands would be pretty damn impressive! However the parish of Errigal Kerogue has around 60 townlands if my half-arsed research is correct**. Rather there are four "areas" of the parish that haven't any official recognition but usually come about as such due to some collective factor.

Also, there has never "only ever been one club for the parish of Errigal Ciaran" as there was Ballygawley St. Ciaran's and the unaffiliated Glencull St. Malachy's from modern history, the two clubs merging to form Errigal Ciaran.  Probably some other clubs have existed in the area before, usually these are from the early decades of the 20th century when the GAA in Tyrone was commonly in a flux up until around 1932/33.



** Detractors I'm sure will point out that Errigal's effective "catchment" is a bit more than this, but they're not the only ones whose effective catchment spills out beyond parish boundaries. As an example, Seskinore lies in the same parish as Beragh but most football players from there come to Fintona as it lies closer to the village than Beragh itself.

As Trump would say.... Fake News!

Sounds like a Trump response all right - cant find a flaw with any of the points so just say Fake News

[Hereiam]

Will the thirds gain promotion to Div 2 or will they have to stay in Div 3 if they win either the league of championship

[Under Lights]

Junior championship starts this Friday night.

Division 1 and 2 won't kick a ball until the week after the AI final now.

[GJL]

Also, there's only ever been one club for the parish of Errigal Ciaran which comprises of 4 TOWNLANDS. It was previously named Ballygawley St Ciarans.

A club able to field four adult mens football teams comprised of just four townlands would be pretty damn impressive! However the parish of Errigal Kerogue has around 60 townlands if my half-arsed research is correct**. Rather there are four "areas" of the parish that haven't any official recognition but usually come about as such due to some collective factor.

Also, there has never "only ever been one club for the parish of Errigal Ciaran" as there was Ballygawley St. Ciaran's and the unaffiliated Glencull St. Malachy's from modern history, the two clubs merging to form Errigal Ciaran. Probably some other clubs have existed in the area before, usually these are from the early decades of the 20th century when the GAA in Tyrone was commonly in a flux up until around 1932/33.



** Detractors I'm sure will point out that Errigal's effective "catchment" is a bit more than this, but they're not the only ones whose effective catchment spills out beyond parish boundaries. As an example, Seskinore lies in the same parish as Beragh but most football players from there come to Fintona as it lies closer to the village than Beragh itself.

As Trump would say.... Fake News!

Sounds like a Trump response all right - cant find a flaw with any of the points so just say Fake News

Errigal Ciaran GAC is made up of exactly the same geographic area as Ballygawley GAC was previously. Officially there has only ever been one club covering that area. Was Ballygawley and renamed as Errigal Ciaran. 

[Frank_The_Tank]

Also, there's only ever been one club for the parish of Errigal Ciaran which comprises of 4 TOWNLANDS. It was previously named Ballygawley St Ciarans.

A club able to field four adult mens football teams comprised of just four townlands would be pretty damn impressive! However the parish of Errigal Kerogue has around 60 townlands if my half-arsed research is correct**. Rather there are four "areas" of the parish that haven't any official recognition but usually come about as such due to some collective factor.

Also, there has never "only ever been one club for the parish of Errigal Ciaran" as there was Ballygawley St. Ciaran's and the unaffiliated Glencull St. Malachy's from modern history, the two clubs merging to form Errigal Ciaran. Probably some other clubs have existed in the area before, usually these are from the early decades of the 20th century when the GAA in Tyrone was commonly in a flux up until around 1932/33.



** Detractors I'm sure will point out that Errigal's effective "catchment" is a bit more than this, but they're not the only ones whose effective catchment spills out beyond parish boundaries. As an example, Seskinore lies in the same parish as Beragh but most football players from there come to Fintona as it lies closer to the village than Beragh itself.

As Trump would say.... Fake News!

Sounds like a Trump response all right - cant find a flaw with any of the points so just say Fake News

Errigal Ciaran GAC is made up of exactly the same geographic area as Ballygawley GAC was previously. Officially there has only ever been one club covering that area. Was Ballygawley and renamed as Errigal Ciaran.

so there was no split at all then?  was there a Ballygawley GAC club in 1990/91/92?  It is a catchment size bigger than 3 or 4 clubs

[Under Lights]

What are clubs doing at the moment? Friendlies being played?
There will be around a 10 week gap between last league game for most.

Now we know the date that the county season ends is there a published list of fixtures of league and championship so teams can plan?

In D3 when is the second round etc pencilled in?

[Goals_Will_Come]

What are clubs doing at the moment? Friendlies being played?
There will be around a 10 week gap between last league game for most.

Now we know the date that the county season ends is there a published list of fixtures of league and championship so teams can plan?

In D3 when is the second round etc pencilled in?

Probably looking at a league game for Div 1 and 2 on the 9th September.
Then the championship will be run off.
With final two league games taking place end of october into november, with play offs to follow.

[Under Lights]

What date is the first round of Ulster Club?

[Keyboard Warrior]

What date is the first round of Ulster Club?

21st October or 4th November

[TyroneOnlooker]

Are many teams getting friendlies? with neighbouring counties in full swing with league and championship, they're not easy to come by unless you play within your own county. I doubt many div1 or 2 clubs want to play teams within their own league so then it's a matter of playing teams above or below you

[smort]

What date is the first round of Ulster Club?

21st October or 4th November

Are the all-ireland club finals before Christmas this year?

[GetOverTheBar]

Are many teams getting friendlies? with neighbouring counties in full swing with league and championship, they're not easy to come by unless you play within your own county. I doubt many div1 or 2 clubs want to play teams within their own league so then it's a matter of playing teams above or below you

Meant to be quite a few Division 1 v 2 clashes this Saturday/ Sunday.

[omagh_gael]

We played Trillick last week and Killyclogher last night.