I think this lad needs a thread of his own. He seems like mighty craic; he has the potential to have the comical genius of Willie Frazer for the years ahead!
I've listened to his 30 min testimony - he's an immature foolish young lad. He claims religion and God drive his politics but that can't be further form the case.
Has anyone got his interview from the Stephen Nolan show that can be posted?
How can anyone take a 24 year old serious? He's a chav version of Wullie?
Quote from: The Iceman on January 07, 2013, 10:13:49 PM
I've listened to his 30 min testimony - he's an immature foolish young lad. He claims religion and God drive his politics but that can't be further form the case.
Has anyone got his interview from the Stephen Nolan show that can be posted?
How can anyone take a 24 year old serious? He's a chav version of Wullie?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01pqm2g (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01pqm2g)
Is he an exception to the case of these other twits and actually work or just another deadbeat?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 07, 2013, 10:50:07 PM
Is he an exception to the case of these other twits and actually work or just another deadbeat?
Deadbeat
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-X2XzZyUCutc/UNObxdvVaMI/AAAAAAAAA5o/91fyCrODu4A/s1600/img784.jpg)
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 07, 2013, 10:50:07 PM
Is he an exception to the case of these other twits and actually work or just another deadbeat?
Appears to be a Peace funding parasite. Him and Wullie are only involved in this debacle to screw some money out of Stormont so they can keep the gravy-train running for another while. I don't think his writing royalties are going to keep him warm!
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Care in the Community was such a BAD idea
Quote from: red hander on January 08, 2013, 04:16:18 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Care in the Community was such a BAD idea
don't think you should be linking vulnerable people who need care in the community to jamie bryson. if you have a problem with him, tell us what it is instead of poking fun at the vulnerable.
Nolan had this boy tripping over himself. Surely the Protestant people don't really see this lad and the likes of Willie as representative of their views?
Quote from: The Iceman on January 08, 2013, 03:33:45 PM
Nolan had this boy tripping over himself. Surely the Protestant people don't really see this lad and the likes of Willie as representative of their views?
From looking at some PUP and UPRG tweets they don't seem to be too enamoured of him and see hime as being (like the UUP & DUP) out for himself.
Listen to Nolan cut him to shreds on that link. I thought the lad was on helium
It's funny now that the BBC/media and police all have an agenda against the 'protesters' women in their jammys getting whacked on the way home from the shop!! Aye right. Some Craig planned for this week it seems, Friday or Saturday seems a no go for anyone looking into Belfast. Glad I have nowt to do the next few weeks!!
Quote from: cadence on January 08, 2013, 08:53:34 AM
Quote from: red hander on January 08, 2013, 04:16:18 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Care in the Community was such a BAD idea
don't think you should be linking vulnerable people who need care in the community to jamie bryson. if you have a problem with him, tell us what it is instead of poking fun at the vulnerable.
Get off you high horse Mr Sensitivity, I wasn't poking fun at vulnerable people in any way or fashion, it was obviously a criticism of the concept of Care in the Community which was introduced under the Tories to slash healthcare costs (i.e raise cash for tax cuts for the rich) by forcing families to care for those vulnerable people on the cheap.
Quote from: red hander on January 08, 2013, 05:09:29 PM
Quote from: cadence on January 08, 2013, 08:53:34 AM
Quote from: red hander on January 08, 2013, 04:16:18 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Care in the Community was such a BAD idea
don't think you should be linking vulnerable people who need care in the community to jamie bryson. if you have a problem with him, tell us what it is instead of poking fun at the vulnerable.
Get off you high horse Mr Sensitivity, I wasn't poking fun at vulnerable people in any way or fashion, it was obviously a criticism of the concept of Care in the Community which was introduced under the Tories to slash healthcare costs (i.e raise cash for tax cuts for the rich) by forcing families to care for those vulnerable people on the cheap.
oh so i'm mr sensitivity because i called you out on your crass and oppressive stereotyping of people who receive community care eh? i don't believe your excuse, because what you actually did was to suggest that mr bryson had a deficit, the inference is that he has a mental deficit (please see a "joke", with a care in the community theme, in the link provided below. the care in the community stereotype being used for humour refers to mental deficit). many of us on here will know what "care in the community" stereotypes refer to. apparently, despite the care in the community stereotype being common knowledge to many, especially those who live and have experience of community care statute, i.e. the national health service and community care act 1990 (which you seem to have very little knowledge of), you expect me to believe you weren't referring to this at all, and were instead referring to conservatives slashing health care and social care costs by forcing care responsibilities onto families and inequalities in taxation policies. your ignorance of community care law and statutory community care duties in no way excuses your ignorance. it's clear to me that you're being disingenuous. and cowardly too when called on poking fun at people with mental illness. i know your kind because i work in mental health and our service users experience a lot of this type of abuse. care in the community jokes inferring those with mental illness have mental deficits that warrant poking fun at them are hurtful and really oppressive. i hope you're proud of yourself. big man that you are who can admit you were being a dick.
now, do us a favour, spare us your "criticisms" of "care in the community"...
http://www.arrse.co.uk/sick-jokes/143970-care-community.html
Quote from: cadence on January 08, 2013, 07:59:17 PM
Quote from: red hander on January 08, 2013, 05:09:29 PM
Quote from: cadence on January 08, 2013, 08:53:34 AM
Quote from: red hander on January 08, 2013, 04:16:18 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Care in the Community was such a BAD idea
don't think you should be linking vulnerable people who need care in the community to jamie bryson. if you have a problem with him, tell us what it is instead of poking fun at the vulnerable.
Get off you high horse Mr Sensitivity, I wasn't poking fun at vulnerable people in any way or fashion, it was obviously a criticism of the concept of Care in the Community which was introduced under the Tories to slash healthcare costs (i.e raise cash for tax cuts for the rich) by forcing families to care for those vulnerable people on the cheap.
oh so i'm mr sensitivity because i called you out on your crass and oppressive stereotyping of people who receive community care eh? i don't believe your excuse, because what you actually did was to suggest that mr bryson had a deficit, the inference is that he has a mental deficit (please see a "joke", with a care in the community theme, in the link provided below. the care in the community stereotype being used for humour refers to mental deficit). many of us on here will know what "care in the community" stereotypes refer to. apparently, despite the care in the community stereotype being common knowledge to many, especially those who live and have experience of community care statute, i.e. the national health service and community care act 1990 (which you seem to have very little knowledge of), you expect me to believe you weren't referring to this at all, and were instead referring to conservatives slashing health care and social care costs by forcing care responsibilities onto families and inequalities in taxation policies. your ignorance of community care law and statutory community care duties in no way excuses your ignorance. it's clear to me that you're being disingenuous. and cowardly too when called on poking fun at people with mental illness. i know your kind because i work in mental health and our service users experience a lot of this type of abuse. care in the community jokes inferring those with mental illness have mental deficits that warrant poking fun at them are hurtful and really oppressive. i hope you're proud of yourself. big man that you are who can admit you were being a dick.
now, do us a favour, spare us your "criticisms" of "care in the community"...
http://www.arrse.co.uk/sick-jokes/143970-care-community.html
Is that you lawnseed?
nope.
does this mean that you would like to discuss, for example, how the oppression of vulnerable and minority groups often manifests itself through humour, or the alternative position about how liberal political correctness has made us overly sensitive to the point that it has become a taboo to make fun jokes any more?
Some interesting reading on Slugger over the past few days:
http://sluggerotoole.com/2013/01/04/loyalist-flag-protests-meet-the-leadership/
http://sluggerotoole.com/2013/01/07/the-first-shades-of-god-jamie-bryson-unremarkable-theology-but-an-insight-into-the-mind-of-the-protest-organiser/
Only heard him speak for the first time this evening on the UTV News. I wasn't expecting that voice, spat me tea out laughing.
Quote from: cadence on January 08, 2013, 07:59:17 PM
Quote from: red hander on January 08, 2013, 05:09:29 PM
Quote from: cadence on January 08, 2013, 08:53:34 AM
Quote from: red hander on January 08, 2013, 04:16:18 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Care in the Community was such a BAD idea
don't think you should be linking vulnerable people who need care in the community to jamie bryson. if you have a problem with him, tell us what it is instead of poking fun at the vulnerable.
Get off you high horse Mr Sensitivity, I wasn't poking fun at vulnerable people in any way or fashion, it was obviously a criticism of the concept of Care in the Community which was introduced under the Tories to slash healthcare costs (i.e raise cash for tax cuts for the rich) by forcing families to care for those vulnerable people on the cheap.
oh so i'm mr sensitivity because i called you out on your crass and oppressive stereotyping of people who receive community care eh? i don't believe your excuse, because what you actually did was to suggest that mr bryson had a deficit, the inference is that he has a mental deficit (please see a "joke", with a care in the community theme, in the link provided below. the care in the community stereotype being used for humour refers to mental deficit). many of us on here will know what "care in the community" stereotypes refer to. apparently, despite the care in the community stereotype being common knowledge to many, especially those who live and have experience of community care statute, i.e. the national health service and community care act 1990 (which you seem to have very little knowledge of), you expect me to believe you weren't referring to this at all, and were instead referring to conservatives slashing health care and social care costs by forcing care responsibilities onto families and inequalities in taxation policies. your ignorance of community care law and statutory community care duties in no way excuses your ignorance. it's clear to me that you're being disingenuous. and cowardly too when called on poking fun at people with mental illness. i know your kind because i work in mental health and our service users experience a lot of this type of abuse. care in the community jokes inferring those with mental illness have mental deficits that warrant poking fun at them are hurtful and really oppressive. i hope you're proud of yourself. big man that you are who can admit you were being a dick.
now, do us a favour, spare us your "criticisms" of "care in the community"...
http://www.arrse.co.uk/sick-jokes/143970-care-community.html
I've said it before, and I'll say it again ... I wasn't poking fun at the mentally ill or vulnerable, I was poking fun at an individual loyalist bigot.
Police officer Keith Andrew Davidson 'concocted incidents'
The PSNI officer appeared before Downpatrick Crown Court
A policeman concocted 16 incidents to make it appear he was being intimidated, a court has been told.
Keith Andrew Davidson is on trial at Dowpatrick Crown Court charged with fraud and misconduct in public office.
He is accused of making a fraudulent application for the purchase of his home under the Scheme for the Purchase of Evacuated Dwellings (SPED) scheme.
Mr Davidson, whose address was given as Bangor police station, denies the charges.
A prosecution barrister told the court that in January 2008 Davidson put the house on the market with an asking price of £380,000.
At the time, the court heard, he was separating from his wife.
There were several offers to buy the property but all were turned down. It was at a time when the property market was not as strong as it had been.
In June 2008 Davidson made a SPED application which was turned down. The property was eventually sold in 2011 for £232,000.
In April 2008, the court heard, there was the first of 16 incidents, that the the prosecution said were concocted to make it look as if Davidson was being intimidated.
The first was an anonymous call to the estate agent asking if the vendor was a member of the security forces.
Another was a man who turned up for a viewing without an appointment.
One weekend 24 businesses turned up at the Davidson home. These included pizza deliveries, taxis and offers of gardening work.
The court heard that Davidson's son made a list of the callers but the list wasn't kept. The prosecution barrister said it was unconceivable that a police officer would not have kept the details.
One another occasion, the court heard, Davidson's then wife, Denise, heard a car in their drive in the middle of the night and that Davidson didn't get up to check who it was.
A local minister, Peter Murray, took an anonymous call to say there was a man lurking in the area where Mr Davidson lived.
On another occasion a call was made to the office of MLA Peter Weir to say that two policemen were to be attacked and gave the address of Mr Davidson and another police officer, Michael Hill, who happened to live a few doors away.
Mr Hill, now retired, told the court he received two letters addressed to Mr Davidson. One contained information about paying for your own funeral in advance and the other a sympathy card.
It was after these and other incidents that Mr Davidson made the SPED application.
In June, the application was turned down.
Then in July, the prosecution barrister said, Jamie Bryson of the Kilcooley Community Forum took a call from an anonymous male saying that people from the Westwinds estate in Newtownards were going to strike in Bangor and only they could stop it.
In August, Davidson's wife and son witnessed their car being stolen. The court heard it was later found burned out. It was valued at £700.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-20978609 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-20978609)
Surely not the Jamie Bryson :o
How many `forums` is this guy connected to
?
Quote from: ludermor on January 10, 2013, 09:40:44 PM
How many `forums` is this guy connected to
?
I heard he is on the gaa board forum................... Ball de beaver????????????
Quote from: theticklemister on January 10, 2013, 09:42:51 PM
Quote from: ludermor on January 10, 2013, 09:40:44 PM
How many `forums` is this guy connected to
?
I heard he is on the gaa board forum................... Ball de beaver????????????
Can't be. BDB's grammar, spelling and punctuation are far superior.
Not me. Sure I'm Willie Frazers love child. ;D
Quote from: omagh_gael on January 10, 2013, 10:14:51 PM
Can't be. BDB's grammar, spelling and punctuation are far superior.
Quote from: Ball DeBeaver on January 10, 2013, 10:32:59 PM
Not me. Sure I'm Willie Frazers love child. ;D
Still has problems with the Genative.
Quote from: theticklemister on January 10, 2013, 09:42:51 PM
Quote from: ludermor on January 10, 2013, 09:40:44 PM
How many `forums` is this guy connected to
?
I heard he is on the gaa board forum................... Ball de beaver????????????
BdB's more likely Nelson McCausland and the lost childer of Israel.
Quote from: Ball DeBeaver on January 10, 2013, 10:32:59 PM
Not me. Sure I'm Willie Frazers love child. ;D
Maybe this explains why Israeli munitions were supplied to loyalists in that neck of the woods!
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Quote from: All of a Sludden on January 11, 2013, 10:08:01 PM
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Brilliant! :D
And which one is Mr Iscariot?
Quote from: norabeag on January 11, 2013, 10:14:02 PM
And which one is Mr Iscariot?
The one whose eyes are closest together.
According to the IFA's recently published Disciplinary List,Jamie's violent behaviour is not confined to the streets!
http://www.irishfa.com/domestic/disciplinary/
What has he been doing from he left Coronation street until now?
Quote from: LeoMc on January 17, 2013, 09:03:45 AM
What has he been doing from he left Coronation street until now?
Inhaling even more helium.
Thought GK handled him well last night, though in fairness with his incoherent ranting it would not be difficult.
Shows the depth of hatred that his generation of young Protestants have been brought up with, that didnt even witness the troubles. Indoctrination.
A few years ago, when my niece was in her mid teens, she had a young protestant friend from East Belfast. Once, while visiting her, the young lady's grandmother, on discovering a kefflick in the house, immediately whipped out the Good Book and commenced "witnessing" to my niece, much to the horrow of her young acquaintance. My niece wouldn't know a hail mary from a hail stone by the way.
Now this was not a ghetto area, but if that's the level of anti catholicism in the plushier confines of East Belfast, God only knows what the ghettoes are like.
And to think poor Mary McAleese was almost hung drawn and quartered for her comment that "some people ....are brought up to hate Catholics"
Quote from: Rossfan on January 17, 2013, 01:10:40 PM
And to think poor Mary McAleese was almost hung drawn and quartered for her comment that "some people ....are brought up to hate Catholics"
We all knew see wasn't far wrong
Quote from: T Fearon on January 17, 2013, 11:53:41 AM
A few years ago, when my niece was in her mid teens, she had a young protestant friend from East Belfast. Once, while visiting her, the young lady's grandmother, on discovering a kefflick in the house, immediately whipped out the Good Book and commenced "witnessing" to my niece, much to the horrow of her young acquaintance. My niece wouldn't know a hail mary from a hail stone by the way.
Now this was not a ghetto area, but if that's the level of anti catholicism in the plushier confines of East Belfast, God only knows what the ghettoes are like.
Tony there are ejets like that on both sides. I hate these wee stories; dont tar everyone with the same brush.
Quote from: theticklemister on January 17, 2013, 02:13:32 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on January 17, 2013, 11:53:41 AM
A few years ago, when my niece was in her mid teens, she had a young protestant friend from East Belfast. Once, while visiting her, the young lady's grandmother, on discovering a kefflick in the house, immediately whipped out the Good Book and commenced "witnessing" to my niece, much to the horrow of her young acquaintance. My niece wouldn't know a hail mary from a hail stone by the way.
Now this was not a ghetto area, but if that's the level of anti catholicism in the plushier confines of East Belfast, God only knows what the ghettoes are like.
Tony there are ejets like that on both sides. I hate these wee stories; dont tar everyone with the same brush.
But Tickler there's more of themmun's then there is of ussens and themmun's are worser than ussens.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 17, 2013, 02:19:34 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on January 17, 2013, 02:13:32 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on January 17, 2013, 11:53:41 AM
A few years ago, when my niece was in her mid teens, she had a young protestant friend from East Belfast. Once, while visiting her, the young lady's grandmother, on discovering a kefflick in the house, immediately whipped out the Good Book and commenced "witnessing" to my niece, much to the horrow of her young acquaintance. My niece wouldn't know a hail mary from a hail stone by the way.
Now this was not a ghetto area, but if that's the level of anti catholicism in the plushier confines of East Belfast, God only knows what the ghettoes are like.
Tony there are ejets like that on both sides. I hate these wee stories; dont tar everyone with the same brush.
But Tickler there's more of themmun's then there is of ussens and themmun's are worser than ussens.
Dr. Seuss?
Jamie Bryson @JamieBrysonCPNI
"Pwease don't be twowing any bwicks ow wocks when pwotesting on the wing woad"
Is that not a Jamie Allister tweet? ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on January 17, 2013, 01:10:40 PM
And to think poor Mary McAleese was almost hung drawn and quartered for her comment that "some people ....are brought up to hate Catholics"
Unfortunately it's most likely that it was funding which her husband acquired for loyalist areas that was used to train young Jamie as a community worker in the first place
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on January 17, 2013, 09:47:41 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 17, 2013, 01:10:40 PM
And to think poor Mary McAleese was almost hung drawn and quartered for her comment that "some people ....are brought up to hate Catholics"
Unfortunately it's most likely that it was funding which her husband acquired for loyalist areas that was used to train young Jamie as a community worker in the first place
Good point.
Bitter hatred can't be good for you. Bryson looks about mid thirties and is apparently only 24. Pastie baps aren't good for you either judging by the rest of the audience on the Nolan show.
Quote from: hardstation on January 17, 2013, 10:48:12 PM
Fcuk, I thought he looked about 17.
Arthur was looking at Jim Wilson.
Laughed at Lindy Mc Dowell, in Belfast Telegraph this week. Referring to Jamie, she says Unionism needs quality experienced leadership, not young X Factor wannabees like Jamie, and described his mix of religion and politics as a "Bryson Recycling Company Limited of Big Ian!" ;D
Quote from: T Fearon on January 18, 2013, 09:32:12 AM
Laughed at Lindy Mc Dowell, in Belfast Telegraph this week. Referring to Jamie, she says Unionism needs quality experienced leadership, not young X Factor wannabees like Jamie, and described his mix of religion and politics as a "Bryson Recycling Company Limited of Big Ian!" ;D
Jamie brysons big acting bweak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lc86JUAwwg
Jaime Bryson sounds like Barry Kripke lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n61MeRilF5s pity he dosen't have the intelligence of some of the Big Bang Theory characters though!
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It cant be, can it?
WTF???
The hurl is address to 'to Mehmet'
Does that shed any light on it for anyone?
Dont think so muppet. Apparently jamie is living a double life in Ardoyne if you look closely at the hurl.
Maybe he is infiltrating nationalists in north belfast??
His holiday pics taken in Gumbet, Turkey, apparently!
Low-brow knuckle-dragging fleg-waving sister-shagging school-skipping orange-marching road-blocking literacy-challenged OWCers ain't gonna be happy about this, so they aren't.
o sweet, it'll be good to see how wullie reacts to this!!!!
I'd say those were taken in the good old days when Jamie was being trained in the art of community thanks to funding which the Dept of Foreign Affairs was putting into loyalist areas
Proud to be a Paddy in anywhere but Ireland; he'll be seeing a hurley fairly soon again I'd say, though it'll be nowhere near his hands (marvelling at the dexterity of his erstwhile roadblock confreres).
Is that definitely him?
I had to laugh at Nolan last night saying that he had more hairs on his big toe than Jamie got votes!
Quote from: muppet on January 31, 2013, 08:19:29 PM
The hurl is address to 'to Mehmet'
Does that shed any light on it for anyone?
Maybe Mehmet is the Turk in the Irish top who runs the bar, and was given the hurl as a gift from some previous holidaymakers and for whatever reason Bryson and his woman are posing with it.
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 01, 2013, 10:00:07 AM
Quote from: muppet on January 31, 2013, 08:19:29 PM
The hurl is address to 'to Mehmet'
Does that shed any light on it for anyone?
Maybe Mehmet is the Turk in the Irish top who runs the bar, and was given the hurl as a gift from some previous holidaymakers and for whatever reason Bryson and his woman are posing with it.
Seriously? ::)
Award for stating the obvious goes too............................
;D
Quote from: NAG1 on February 01, 2013, 10:04:54 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 01, 2013, 10:00:07 AM
Quote from: muppet on January 31, 2013, 08:19:29 PM
The hurl is address to 'to Mehmet'
Does that shed any light on it for anyone?
Maybe Mehmet is the Turk in the Irish top who runs the bar, and was given the hurl as a gift from some previous holidaymakers and for whatever reason Bryson and his woman are posing with it.
Seriously? ::)
Award for stating the obvious goes too............................
;D
To or too?
Was it Johnny Adair that said he enjoyed all the attention of being 'Irish' when abroad. These people are funny.
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 01, 2013, 12:18:04 PM
Was it Johnny Adair that said he enjoyed all the attention of being 'Irish' when abroad. These people are funny.
Funny? Funny how? We make you laugh?
Do we amuse you? Funny how....
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 01, 2013, 10:00:07 AM
Quote from: muppet on January 31, 2013, 08:19:29 PM
The hurl is address to 'to Mehmet'
Does that shed any light on it for anyone?
Maybe Mehmet is the Turk in the Irish top who runs the bar, and was given the hurl as a gift from some previous holidaymakers and for whatever reason Bryson and his woman are posing with it.
I'm wondering what the odds are on Ball DeBeaver being in that photo.
I know a guy who knows him, and supposedly he's not like he is on TV at all, he's got loads of Catholic mates etc and is always joking around with them about his hardline stance. Supposedly he wants to be a politician and he thinks this is the best route, but most of it is a bit of a show. I suppose that would be the same for a lot of politicans.
Quote from: Mario on February 01, 2013, 02:07:23 PM
I know a guy who knows him, and supposedly he's not like he is on TV at all, he's got loads of Catholic mates etc and is always joking around with them about his hardline stance. Supposedly he wants to be a politician and he thinks this is the best route, but most of it is a bit of a show. I suppose that would be the same for a lot of politicans.
Read some of his articles then or does he publish stuff that he doesnt believe in just for the craic ???
Just watched a video of him on Facebook cheering and punching the air as the front window of a house in the Short Strand is smashed.
Quote from: Mario on February 01, 2013, 02:07:23 PM
I know a guy who knows him, and supposedly he's not like he is on TV at all, he's got loads of Catholic mates etc and is always joking around with them about his hardline stance. Supposedly he wants to be a politician and he thinks this is the best route, but most of it is a bit of a show. I suppose that would be the same for a lot of politicans.
I know a lad who knows Danny Di Vito. Apparently he's not really short in real life.
Quote from: Ulick on February 01, 2013, 03:13:49 PM
Just watched a video of him on Facebook cheering and punching the air as the front window of a house in the Short Strand is smashed.
Link?
Quote from: Lecale2 on February 01, 2013, 03:59:43 PM
Quote from: Mario on February 01, 2013, 02:07:23 PM
I know a guy who knows him, and supposedly he's not like he is on TV at all, he's got loads of Catholic mates etc and is always joking around with them about his hardline stance. Supposedly he wants to be a politician and he thinks this is the best route, but most of it is a bit of a show. I suppose that would be the same for a lot of politicans.
I know a lad who knows Danny Di Vito. Apparently he's not really short in real life.
Danny looks tall to me.
I see according to the Irish News that he and Willie have fallen out. No real surprise there. Both self publicists on a huge ego trip and there was never going to be a town big enough for both of them
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on February 01, 2013, 05:23:02 PM
I see according to the Irish News that he and Willie have fallen out. No real surprise there. Both self publicists on a huge ego trip and there was never going to be a town big enough for both of them
Probably
a pay off funding coming and the bag of money isn't big enough for the both of them.
Quote from: Ulick on February 01, 2013, 03:13:49 PM
Just watched a video of him on Facebook cheering and punching the air as the front window of a house in the Short Strand is smashed.
Just saw it myself. Sure did we expect any different?
Sums that crowd up when they see this fool bastard as one of their leaders. Let them carry on, making absolute tits of themselves
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Quote from: EC Unique on February 01, 2013, 05:01:14 PM
Quote from: Ulick on February 01, 2013, 03:13:49 PM
Just watched a video of him on Facebook cheering and punching the air as the front window of a house in the Short Strand is smashed.
Link?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4GSrWEDRTD8
The NI media will hopefully be all over this and his stance against violence will be clear for all to see.
Quote from: southdown on February 02, 2013, 12:04:08 AM
The NI media will hopefully be all over this and his stance against violence will be clear for all to see.
Is it him for defs?????
Bad timing as Nolan would have been sure to play it the other night.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 02, 2013, 12:14:00 AM
Bad timing as Nolan would have been sure to play it the other night.
Do ye think Wullie will bring this up, ye know now with this bitter feud which about to ensue??
Pretty sure it's him alright. His message is confused and vague. Now he has been shown cheering violence while pretending to be against violence.
It doesn't mater what's showed in the video, the Nationalists had him sussed from the start, after his holiday photos his own are seeing him for what he is. Bryson is finished he'll end up in the PUP for a year or two then never be seen again.
L.A.D.T.V. Presents: Jamie Bryson in "Life of Jamie"
Jamie Bryson Sings: Always look on the Brightside of Life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzkvAsRSBFA&feature=youtu.be
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 01, 2013, 11:56:37 PM
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Quote from: Ulick on February 01, 2013, 03:13:49 PM
Just watched a video of him on Facebook cheering and punching the air as the front window of a house in the Short Strand is smashed.
Link?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4GSrWEDRTD8
Is that Bryson shouting "Dennis, c'mon control this" at 0:28?
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on February 02, 2013, 05:12:32 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 01, 2013, 11:56:37 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 01, 2013, 05:01:14 PM
Quote from: Ulick on February 01, 2013, 03:13:49 PM
Just watched a video of him on Facebook cheering and punching the air as the front window of a house in the Short Strand is smashed.
Link?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4GSrWEDRTD8
Is that Bryson shouting "Dennis, c'mon control this" at 0:28?
Should be easy enough to figuwe out!
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Doing the rounds on Facebook
Holy. Good. Fu*k.
Quote from: Ball DeBeaver on February 03, 2013, 04:59:55 AM
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Doing the rounds on Facebook
Holy. Good. f**k.
there are no words quite strong enough. This is beyond parody.
Fight fire with fire.
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Should that be plural or have they melted into one form?
I think it's a mystery like the holy trinity, so we're not allowed to understand it. Just follow Jedward.
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
Bryson may not be the brightest bulb in the set, but does at least emit a dull glow, and the rest of the zombies follow the light.
Jamie Bryson was football mascot
Jamie Bryson played the role of Northern Ireland's football mascot just weeks before emerging as chairman of the Ulster People's Forum, amid the ongoing flags dispute.
Jamie Bryson at a flag protest and dressed as the NI football mascot. (© Pacemaker)
Mr Bryson donned the costume of 'Footie' for the World Cup qualifier against Azerbaijan in November and paraded around Windsor Park clapping and waving at supporters.
The Irish FA said the 22-year-old, who had previously been on work placement with the association, had filled in as a last minute replacement for the regular mascot, who was unavailable.
A statement stressed that it was a one-off and added that Mr Bryson had never been involved in any of the IFA's community relations projects.
"The Irish FA can confirm that Jamie Bryson was Footie mascot at the Northern Ireland v Azerbaijan game on 14 November 2012," it read.
"The regular mascot was unavailable for the game and his replacement took unwell on the afternoon of the game and Mr Bryson stood in at the last minute. This was a one-off."
Mr Bryson emerged as a leader of the loyalist Ulster People's Forum in the wake of the dispute over Belfast City Hall's flag policy.
The council voted to restrict the flying of the Union Flag to 18 designated days last December, prompting a series of protests across Northern Ireland, many of which have been followed by violence on the streets.
Footie the mascot is used by the IFA to promote local football and for a number of public relations events, including its cross-community Football For All campaign.
The costume is usually worn at matches by Ian Hughes, brother of Fulham and NI defender Aaron Hughes, but he was unavailable ahead of the Azerbaijan game.
When his replacement took ill the IFA sought a work placement volunteer and Mr Bryson, who is understood to have been going to watch the match, took up the role.
The statement from the football body continued: "Mr Bryson is not involved in, or has ever been involved in any of the Association's Community Relations projects."
When asked about the incident on Twitter, Mr Bryson replied: "Does it really matter?"
Well trasna man................. He was there when his country needed him.
QuoteFootie the mascot is used by the IFA to promote local football and for a number of public relations events, including its cross-community Football For All campaign.
You really could not f**king make this up!!
Quote from: theticklemister on January 07, 2013, 07:35:47 PM
I think this lad needs a thread of his own. He seems like mighty craic; he has the potential to have the comical genius of Willie Frazer for the years ahead!
Quote from: Lecale2 on February 07, 2013, 05:08:31 PM
QuoteFootie the mascot is used by the IFA to promote local football and for a number of public relations events, including its cross-community Football For All campaign.
You really could not f**king make this up!!
Look at my original piece when opening this thread; he is comedy gold!!
Football For All, indeed ... wonder what Uncle Tom Armstrong makes of it all
I love the idea that he stood in when the understudy took ill. Reminds me of the line in Blackadder 3 when Balderick stood for Parliament. ' and we are all grateful to Mr E Blackadder for stepping in at the last moment when the previous Returning Officer accidentally brutally stabbed himself in the stomach when shaving
On a related note, is it just me or do a fierce number of people from Belfast talk in this helium voice? I've heard it on both sides of the city.
"Hi bie! What's the matter wih yie?"
Quote from: Lecale2 on February 07, 2013, 05:08:31 PM
QuoteFootie the mascot is used by the IFA to promote local football and for a number of public relations events, including its cross-community Football For All campaign.
You really could not f**king make this up!!
Never heard of him but you can see his potential clearly.
Quote from: red hander on February 07, 2013, 06:09:27 PM
Football For All, indeed ... wonder what Uncle Tom Armstrong makes of it all
Ah, where the feck is sammyg and sbe when ye need them.
The IFA must be proud to have muppets like this running around in their ranks! :-[ ::) ??? :o :( :-X :'(
Armstrong is not an uncle Tom, he has a right to his opinion and played for the north, why is that such a bad thing?
I could not agree with him less but he has the right to believe what he wants, no harm in that at all at all.
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Quote from: Ball DeBeaver on February 07, 2013, 07:47:45 PM
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There are probably tons more mucker. Take yer pick.
This should be good...
QuoteJamie Bryson @JamieBrysonCPNI 4h
Good to see my friend Willie Frazer today who will be assisting my Euro campaign. He will also run in Newtownards in upcoming elections.
Quote from: Maguire01 on November 11, 2013, 08:04:11 PM
This should be good...
QuoteJamie Bryson @JamieBrysonCPNI 4h
Good to see my friend Willie Frazer today who will be assisting my Euro campaign. He will also run in Newtownards in upcoming elections.
sounds like something from Fawlty Towers
Would surely make a great fly-on-the-wall documentary.
Quote from: theticklemister on November 11, 2013, 08:41:28 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on November 11, 2013, 08:04:11 PM
This should be good...
QuoteJamie Bryson @JamieBrysonCPNI 4h
Good to see my friend Willie Frazer today who will be assisting my Euro campaign. He will also run in Newtownards in upcoming elections.
sounds like something from Fawlty Towers
Why doesn't BBC do a series on these lads ? Free entertainment. And they''re brilliant comedians.
Better news for Jamie today -
Charges against union flag protester Jamie Bryson withdrawn
Incitement charges brought against high-profile union flag protestor Jamie Bryson have been withdrawn.
Prosecutors confirmed they were no longer proceeding with the two most serious allegations he was facing.
Mr Bryson, who is still accused of taking part in unlawful processions and obstructing traffic, now wants a ban on making public speeches lifted.
His barrister told Belfast Magistrates' Court there was no longer any need for the prohibition.
Mr Bryson, 23, from Rosepark, Donaghadee, County Down, could have faced two separate trials over his alleged involvement in illegal demonstrations surrounding the decision to restrict the flying of the union flag at Belfast City Hall.
The two most serious charges against him involved claims that he encouraged or assisted offences by addressing public gatherings.
Those alleged offences, under the Serious Crime Act, would have been dealt with in the Crown Court where heavier sentences could be imposed on conviction.
But it was confirmed on Friday that both of these charges have been withdrawn.
It keeps geting better for Jamie -
Ban lifted on Jamie Bryson making speeches Jamie Bryson is no longer banned from making speeches or giving interviews about flags protests Continue reading the main story
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Flag protester charges are withdrawn
High-profile union flag protester Jamie Bryson is no longer banned from making public speeches, a judge has ruled.
A prohibition on using social media and giving press interviews has also been lifted.
The restrictions were removed following an earlier decision to withdraw incitement charges against him.
Police objected to the application for bail terms to be varied, arguing that Mr Bryson has a leadership role in protests.
Concerns
The 23-year-old, from Rosepark, Donaghadee, County Down, is still accused of taking part in unlawful processions and obstructing traffic during demonstrations over the decision to fly the union flag at Belfast City Hall on designated days only.
Last week the two most serious charges against him were dropped. They involved claims that he encouraged or assisted offences by addressing public gatherings.
Those alleged offences, under the Serious Crime Act, would have been dealt with in the Crown Court where heavier sentences could be imposed on conviction.
He faces four counts of participating in an un-notified public procession and obstructing traffic on Belfast's Newtownards Road in January.
The police voiced concerns about a parade planned for the end of November to mark the first anniversary of the protests.
The district judge granted the applications for both variations of bail terms.
However, Mr Bryson is still barred from going within a mile of any parade or demonstration.
His case was adjourned for two weeks when a date for a hearing will be fixed.
Surly this paves the way for "The Willie & Jamie Show" to hit our screens in the summer.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 07, 2013, 06:38:37 PM
On a related note, is it just me or do a fierce number of people from Belfast talk in this helium voice? I've heard it on both sides of the city.
"Hi bie! What's the matter wih yie?"
wee bit late but.... Eamon, aren't you from Lurgan? I think taking the piss out of accents is a bit rich :)) ::)
Jamie calling for province wide protests on December the 3rd. Great. Here we go again.
Hopefully they do lock him up this time. Him and Wullie can't be real characters - they can't be.
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 20, 2013, 09:17:43 AM
Jamie calling for province wide protests on December the 3rd. Great. Here we go again.
Hopefully they do lock him up this time. Him and Wullie can't be real characters - they can't be.
Did you watch spotlight last night? Business owners saying recession is not a problem in Belfast but these 'protests' are wrecking the city. They should all be f**king locked up the moment they set their foot on a road! >:(
Quote from: EC Unique on November 20, 2013, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 20, 2013, 09:17:43 AM
Jamie calling for province wide protests on December the 3rd. Great. Here we go again.
Hopefully they do lock him up this time. Him and Wullie can't be real characters - they can't be.
Did you watch spotlight last night? Business owners saying recession is not a problem in Belfast but these 'protests' are wrecking the city. They should all be f**king locked up the moment they set their foot on a road! >:(
Queen's highway ?.
Quote from: orangeman on November 20, 2013, 09:29:19 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 20, 2013, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 20, 2013, 09:17:43 AM
Jamie calling for province wide protests on December the 3rd. Great. Here we go again.
Hopefully they do lock him up this time. Him and Wullie can't be real characters - they can't be.
Did you watch spotlight last night? Business owners saying recession is not a problem in Belfast but these 'protests' are wrecking the city. They should all be f**king locked up the moment they set their foot on a road! >:(
Queen's highway ?.
They should be done for treason for undermining the Queen's (as they would see it) economy and reducing the Queen's taxes.
Quote from: muppet on November 20, 2013, 10:52:12 AM
Quote from: orangeman on November 20, 2013, 09:29:19 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 20, 2013, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 20, 2013, 09:17:43 AM
Jamie calling for province wide protests on December the 3rd. Great. Here we go again.
Hopefully they do lock him up this time. Him and Wullie can't be real characters - they can't be.
Did you watch spotlight last night? Business owners saying recession is not a problem in Belfast but these 'protests' are wrecking the city. They should all be f**king locked up the moment they set their foot on a road! >:(
Queen's highway ?.
They should be done for treason for undermining the Queen's (as they would see it) economy and reducing the Queen's taxes.
That would be hilarious. They are clearly ruining business in Belfast. Who is going to shop in Belfast on a day when about 5 or 10k of them descend on the place and you can't even guarantee your own safety? Only an eejit. 560 arrested and 200 preosecuted - not even nearly enough!!
The Parades Commission have`nt the guts to face down these fcukers. They should make them pay compensation to the traders,pay for the PSNI to steward it,pay for the cleanup afterwards. The organisers of this crap are allowed to remain unknown,as it would breach the data protection act.Only in this dump of a place would this be able to happen.
Quote from: JUst retired on November 20, 2013, 09:16:35 PM
The Parades Commission have`nt the guts to face down these fcukers. They should make them pay compensation to the traders,pay for the PSNI to steward it,pay for the cleanup afterwards. The organisers of this crap are allowed to remain unknown,as it would breach the data protection act.Only in this dump of a place would this be able to happen.
I don't believe the Parades Commission have the power do do what you suggest, so probably not a case of 'not having the guts'.
UVF looking another pay off. That is all this is
Quote from: cadhlancian on November 20, 2013, 03:17:00 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 07, 2013, 06:38:37 PM
On a related note, is it just me or do a fierce number of people from Belfast talk in this helium voice? I've heard it on both sides of the city.
"Hi bie! What's the matter wih yie?"
wee bit late but.... Eamon, aren't you from Lurgan? I think taking the piss out of accents is a bit rich :)) ::)
Outside Lurgan. Emphasis on the "outside."
More Comedy Gold from Jamie Bwyson!
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Bryson to picket GAA sponsors
28 November 2013
Loyalist activist Jamie Bryson is planning to picket businesses in the North that sponsor GAA teams because he claims the organisation "supports terrorists".
The 23-year-old, who has attracted much media attention as a leading figure in the Belfast City Hall flag protests, has vowed to place uniformed loyalist bandsmen outside their premises.
"I will be asking (loyalists) to go to the places that sponsor the GAA," he told the Irish News.
"I think the GAA is supportive of terrorists and people who sponsor the GAA support the glorification of terrorists. My campaign against the appeasement process is a peaceful civil rights campaign. I'm not driving car bombs into Belfast."
Ironically, Bryson has been pictured in the past holding a hurl and the Erin go Bragh flag which has been seen at Ireland soccer matches in recent years.
Ulster Council spokesman John Connolly refused to be drawn on Bryson's plans.
"We are non-political and we are not getting into that," he said.
This B*****d is no longer amusing and is venturing into the dangerous category.
I was listening to Frank Mitchell interviewing Bryson this morning about the GAA and it was very annoying to listen to. Then a fella 'D' from Ardoyne (said he played for Kickhams) came on and he made me even more annoyed than Bryson with his views on the GAA.
I know that NEITHER of them were speaking about the people i know involved in GAA but they were given the air time and if i was a person who knew nothing about the organisation i would be loathe to get involved after listening to them. Lots of people phoned, texted, tweeted etc to the programme to convey their anger but those two got more time to put their points across and they were both very extreme (they should put them both on a pitch with a hurl and hockey stick and let them kick lumps out of eachother!!!!!). :)
Quote from: The Trap on November 28, 2013, 02:55:40 PM
I was listening to Frank Mitchell interviewing Bryson this morning about the GAA and it was very annoying to listen to. Then a fella 'D' from Ardoyne (said he played for Kickhams) came on and he made me even more annoyed than Bryson with his views on the GAA.
I know that NEITHER of them were speaking about the people i know involved in GAA but they were given the air time and if i was a person who knew nothing about the organisation i would be loathe to get involved after listening to them. Lots of people phoned, texted, tweeted etc to the programme to convey their anger but those two got more time to put their points across and they were both very extreme (they should put them both on a pitch with a hurl and hockey stick and let them kick lumps out of eachother!!!!!). :)
Mitchell knows all about the GAA and should have nailed Bwyson!!
Quote from: trueblue1234 on November 28, 2013, 02:42:54 PM
This B*****d is no longer amusing and is venturing into the dangerous category.
exactly, him and his mate wullie would be funny if they weren't so dangerous in the way they are whipping up sectarian hatred
Mitchell is an uncle Tom, and wouldn't want to be seen sticking up for the GAA, because it's not the done thing in letsgetalongerist society. Why can't everyone just support the Belfast Giants ice skating team.
Quote from: Feckitt on November 28, 2013, 02:58:49 PM
Mitchell is an uncle Tom, and wouldn't want to be seen sticking up for the GAA, because it's not the done thing in letsgetalongerist society. Why can't everyone just support the Belfast Giants ice skating team.
Love it.
I listened to bits of it this morning and have to say Frank stood up for and promoted the GAA very well.
The more air time Bryson and his ilk get the more damage they do to loyalism and OWCism.
He will have a section of muppets who will follow him but the simple fact is they will have even less brains than him, they have no insight to where they are going, how to get there or even what they want. They dont even have the brain power to put together any kind of strategy, they are a product of the big house unionists using them and discarding them every time they were needed.
Quote from: rashCharacter on November 28, 2013, 03:16:55 PM
I listened to bits of it this morning and have to say Frank stood up for and promoted the GAA very well.
By inviting scumbags onto his show to spew horrible sectarian lies about the GAA ::)
I don't understand why they give him any airtime. The only attention the fella should get is ridicule. That LAD site had some funny stuff after he was exposed for *allegedly* doing the double.
The guy has nothing to add to society. Whatever class he was in at school he was more than likely near the bottom of it.
I would agree he is getting towards being dangerous though. He adds nothing to society and for anyone to think he is a leader - well it says a lot about them.
I noticed on twitter a while ago he was likening gay marriage to some guy marrying a dolphin. That was the strength of hit argument against gay marriage - if we allow it where do we stop. Took a while for someone to explain that maybe consent was a rather large factor. It about sums up the level of intelligence the guy has.
I'm all for these muppets (sorry muppet!) making apes of themselves with their lunacy, but that sort of poison is dangerous. Normal people might laugh it off, but how much of this would it take for some of those flegger idiots to firebomb a GAA ground, or assault one of our members or worse. If there is such a law up there as incitement to hatred, then this dickhead should be done for it.
Doubtless if one of his neanderthal 'followers' does something stupid, he'll be the first to say he only condones peaceful protests. A dangerous, hateful little p***k.
It's a bit like if the protests go bad, and they probably will on saturday, guys like him who encouraged people out onto the street will take no responsibility.
The internet gives idiots like him a voice. Pre social networks you'd not have seen or heard of this boy. Hopefully he will get put in jail at some stage and some stage soon.
Someone here (I hope) must know someone of the unionist persuasion in the North. If so, can you please confirm that people on the ground despair at the way that the likes of Jamie Bryson are allowed to speak on behalf of all of them without anyone shouting him down. The alternative - that people on the ground are so outraged over The Fleg that they quietly hope that he'll give Prods more traction in the zero-sum game with the Taigs - doesn't bear thinking about.
It's the former.
The PUP seem to be pushing these protests too. They voted for the flag to come down. Anyone with any wit isn't involved - the DUP started it to get ALliance out of east belfast, the UVF etc jumped on board and then "opportunists" like the PUP and Bryson came on board. It's all a crock of shit and anyone with any sense knows it.
I imagine a few boys will be scoping outside the BarOne out in Dundalk, hoping and praying... ;)
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 28, 2013, 03:50:22 PM
It's the former.
The PUP seem to be pushing these protests too. They voted for the flag to come down. Anyone with any wit isn't involved - the DUP started it to get ALliance out of east belfast, the UVF etc jumped on board and then "opportunists" like the PUP and Bryson came on board. It's all a crock of shit and anyone with any sense knows it.
Yes, but do you know anyone who is willing to say in private that's it's a crock of shit?
heard bryson on radio this mornin.. anyone who supports the gaa- supports terrorism aswell as any sponsorship of anythin to do with the gaa-supports terrorism. f mitchell then mentioned some of the top sponsors eg. ulster bank, super valu, bushmills, vodafone,02, canal court, o neills etc etc then frank goes are they sponsoring terrorism and jamie goes..... yes!
Also. it's not the guys with an ounce of sense I'm worried about, it's the morons with no sense other than a sense that they are being betrayed by their own government, and are spoiling for a fight. Some of the comments on facebook that you'd see on the LAD page, from presumably real loyalists are absolutely unreal, and if they are told the GAA is an enemy, I can almost guarantee the GAA will get another touch soon enough.
Quote from: deiseach on November 28, 2013, 03:54:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 28, 2013, 03:50:22 PM
It's the former.
The PUP seem to be pushing these protests too. They voted for the flag to come down. Anyone with any wit isn't involved - the DUP started it to get ALliance out of east belfast, the UVF etc jumped on board and then "opportunists" like the PUP and Bryson came on board. It's all a crock of shit and anyone with any sense knows it.
Yes, but do you know anyone who is willing to say in private that's it's a crock of shit?
Careful between the difference of Unionists and Loyalists.
The Unionists by and large wash their hands of these protesters.
Quote from: deiseach on November 28, 2013, 03:43:09 PM
Someone here (I hope) must know someone of the unionist persuasion in the North. If so, can you please confirm that people on the ground despair at the way that the likes of Jamie Bryson are allowed to speak on behalf of all of them without anyone shouting him down. The alternative - that people on the ground are so outraged over The Fleg that they quietly hope that he'll give Prods more traction in the zero-sum game with the Taigs - doesn't bear thinking about.
It's not that black and white. It's not simply people who back Bryson and those who silently despise him. A lot of them would not support him by going to protests or would not advocate his action in public either. But at the same time they wouldn't openly disparage him to a Catholic neighbour or whilst in public. Deep down a vast majority of them feel their traditions and culture are being diluted to appease a Catholic mass who not too long ago where under cosh. It's an upset to the status quo and it irks a lot of them to a small degree.
Not that I blame them, I mean whilst I would question the naming of some trophies and grounds after IRA members amongst my friends, family and indeed on this site, I wouldn't allow the same liberalism to infiltrate a conversation with a protestant from home. I wouldn't want to be seen to be seeking to appease the likes of Byrson, Fraizer and Donaldson by removing references to some of our own. It's about sticking up for your own side and all that.
It's a different thing up here, looking in isn't the same as living in.
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Quote from: deiseach on November 28, 2013, 03:54:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 28, 2013, 03:50:22 PM
It's the former.
The PUP seem to be pushing these protests too. They voted for the flag to come down. Anyone with any wit isn't involved - the DUP started it to get ALliance out of east belfast, the UVF etc jumped on board and then "opportunists" like the PUP and Bryson came on board. It's all a crock of shit and anyone with any sense knows it.
Yes, but do you know anyone who is willing to say in private that's it's a crock of shit?
Careful between the difference of Unionists and Loyalists.
The Unionists by and large wash their hands of these protesters.
I'm aware of the difference. But no matter how hard I look (and i look a lot), I can't see any evidence of a silent majority of Unionists who think Jamie Bryson is damaging to their cause. Which makes me think that they might not be out there. I'm willing to be proven wrong. Heck, even a silent minority would be nice so that I can dispel the lingering feeling that they'd all side with Jamie rather than be giving an inch to the Fenians.
Quote from: sensethetone on November 28, 2013, 03:57:43 PM
heard bryson on radio this mornin.. anyone who supports the gaa- supports terrorism aswell as any sponsorship of anythin to do with the gaa-supports terrorism. f mitchell then mentioned some of the top sponsors eg. ulster bank, super valu, bushmills, vodafone,02, canal court, o neills etc etc then frank goes are they sponsoring terrorism and jamie goes..... yes!
The UVF are not terrorists too according to Jamie!
Deiseach I know various people, protestant and catholic, who quite openly say it's a crock of shit. I know several that I'm best not talking to about it too mind.
Quote from: trileacman on November 28, 2013, 04:00:37 PM
It's not that black and white. It's not simply people who back Bryson and those who silently despise him. A lot of them would not support him by going to protests or would not advocate his action in public either. But at the same time they wouldn't openly disparage him to a Catholic neighbour or whilst in public. Deep down a vast majority of them feel their traditions and culture are being diluted to appease a Catholic mass who not too long ago where under cosh. It's an upset to the status quo and it irks a lot of them to a small degree.
Not that I blame them, I mean whilst I would question the naming of some trophies and grounds after IRA members amongst my friends, family and indeed on this site, I wouldn't allow the same liberalism to infiltrate a conversation with a protestant from home. I wouldn't want to be seen to be seeking to appease the likes of Byrson, Fraizer and Donaldson by removing references to some of our own. It's about sticking up for your own side and all that.
It's a different thing up here, looking in isn't the same as living in.
Thanks for the considered response. The thing is, you're basically saying that I'm right - no one would ever speak out against Bryson, even in private, for fear of letting the side down. There are no depths to which he can not plunge the North before people from his side will denounce him because you are with themmuns or agin 'em. And I don't think there are two sides to this story. There was widespread and vocal opposition to the Provos right throughout the Troubles from Nationalists. There is no comparable constituency in Unionism. You don't see the various OWCers here saying that Bryson doesn't speak for anyone because the fact of the matter is that he does, or at least they would choose to tolerate him rather say anything against him. That's not to say that the individual contributors think this way, just that they couldn't say with a straight face that he represents a completely extermist viewpoint. Faced with that, it does make me wonder (and ironically I'll probably regret saying this) whether the Shinner apologists on here have a point, i.e. that the Brits and Unionists couldn't have been brought to a compromise until they had been bombed to one.
Quote from: deiseach on November 28, 2013, 04:15:59 PM
Quote from: trileacman on November 28, 2013, 04:00:37 PM
It's not that black and white. It's not simply people who back Bryson and those who silently despise him. A lot of them would not support him by going to protests or would not advocate his action in public either. But at the same time they wouldn't openly disparage him to a Catholic neighbour or whilst in public. Deep down a vast majority of them feel their traditions and culture are being diluted to appease a Catholic mass who not too long ago where under cosh. It's an upset to the status quo and it irks a lot of them to a small degree.
Not that I blame them, I mean whilst I would question the naming of some trophies and grounds after IRA members amongst my friends, family and indeed on this site, I wouldn't allow the same liberalism to infiltrate a conversation with a protestant from home. I wouldn't want to be seen to be seeking to appease the likes of Byrson, Fraizer and Donaldson by removing references to some of our own. It's about sticking up for your own side and all that.
It's a different thing up here, looking in isn't the same as living in.
Thanks for the considered response. The thing is, you're basically saying that I'm right - no one would ever speak out against Bryson, even in private, for fear of letting the side down. There are no depths to which he can not plunge the North before people from his side will denounce him because you are with themmuns or agin 'em. And I don't think there are two sides to this story. There was widespread and vocal opposition to the Provos right throughout the Troubles from Nationalists. There is no comparable constituency in Unionism. You don't see the various OWCers here saying that Bryson doesn't speak for anyone because the fact of the matter is that he does, or at least they would choose to tolerate him rather say anything against him. That's not to say that the individual contributors think this way, just that they couldn't say with a straight face that he represents a completely extermist viewpoint. Faced with that, it does make me wonder (and ironically I'll probably regret saying this) whether the Shinner apologists on here have a point, i.e. that the Brits and Unionists couldn't have been brought to a compromise until they had been bombed to one.
Bingo!
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 28, 2013, 04:14:19 PM
Deiseach I know various people, protestant and catholic, who quite openly say it's a crock of shit. I know several that I'm best not talking to about it too mind.
After my previous rant, that makes me feel a little better. Good to know.
Quote from: deiseach on November 28, 2013, 03:54:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 28, 2013, 03:50:22 PM
It's the former.
The PUP seem to be pushing these protests too. They voted for the flag to come down. Anyone with any wit isn't involved - the DUP started it to get ALliance out of east belfast, the UVF etc jumped on board and then "opportunists" like the PUP and Bryson came on board. It's all a crock of shit and anyone with any sense knows it.
Yes, but do you know anyone who is willing to say in private that's it's a crock of shit?
I'd know a right few and this guy would not even come into a conversation, laughable at best, he is targeting the estates where the level of intelligence is 20% below his...
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 28, 2013, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 28, 2013, 03:54:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 28, 2013, 03:50:22 PM
It's the former.
The PUP seem to be pushing these protests too. They voted for the flag to come down. Anyone with any wit isn't involved - the DUP started it to get ALliance out of east belfast, the UVF etc jumped on board and then "opportunists" like the PUP and Bryson came on board. It's all a crock of shit and anyone with any sense knows it.
Yes, but do you know anyone who is willing to say in private that's it's a crock of shit?
I'd know a right few and they this guy would not even come into a conversation, laughable at best, he is targeting the estates where the level of intelligence is 20% below his...
Yeah and they're easy pickings as the ruling Unionists only need them for their votes come election time and forget about them the rest of the time or when they need to stir a hornets nest.
The loyalist working class have only ever had David Irvine as a true leader who knew what was going on and could represent them in a meaningful way.5 years or so after his death they've fallen back into the play things of the DUP who don't give a shít for them.
The likes of Wullie and Jamie to us are morons but if you've nobody else even remotely on the same wavelength then its a 'f**k it, you'll do' scenario.
Quote from: deiseach on November 28, 2013, 04:15:59 PM
Quote from: trileacman on November 28, 2013, 04:00:37 PM
It's not that black and white. It's not simply people who back Bryson and those who silently despise him. A lot of them would not support him by going to protests or would not advocate his action in public either. But at the same time they wouldn't openly disparage him to a Catholic neighbour or whilst in public. Deep down a vast majority of them feel their traditions and culture are being diluted to appease a Catholic mass who not too long ago where under cosh. It's an upset to the status quo and it irks a lot of them to a small degree.
Not that I blame them, I mean whilst I would question the naming of some trophies and grounds after IRA members amongst my friends, family and indeed on this site, I wouldn't allow the same liberalism to infiltrate a conversation with a protestant from home. I wouldn't want to be seen to be seeking to appease the likes of Byrson, Fraizer and Donaldson by removing references to some of our own. It's about sticking up for your own side and all that.
It's a different thing up here, looking in isn't the same as living in.
Thanks for the considered response. The thing is, you're basically saying that I'm right - no one would ever speak out against Bryson, even in private, for fear of letting the side down. There are no depths to which he can not plunge the North before people from his side will denounce him because you are with themmuns or agin 'em. And I don't think there are two sides to this story. There was widespread and vocal opposition to the Provos right throughout the Troubles from Nationalists. There is no comparable constituency in Unionism. You don't see the various OWCers here saying that Bryson doesn't speak for anyone because the fact of the matter is that he does, or at least they would choose to tolerate him rather say anything against him. That's not to say that the individual contributors think this way, just that they couldn't say with a straight face that he represents a completely extermist viewpoint. Faced with that, it does make me wonder (and ironically I'll probably regret saying this) whether the Shinner apologists on here have a point, i.e. that the Brits and Unionists couldn't have been brought to a compromise until they had been bombed to one.
Aw you're still over-reading it though. There are very few OWCers on here so it's no barometer of general opposition, likewise comparing Nationalist opposition to the IRA and Unionist opposition to Byrson isn't right either. As of yet Byrson isn't going round setting off car bombs killing 15 a time so the prods aren't as pushed to go openly denouncing him. A few w**kers standing round the Ormeau Road isn't going to get them to break ranks.
When himself and Willie were arrested and put up on charges you'd have heard a pin drop, I can't recall any of the major parties getting worked up about it or anyone in my part of the world, they didn't really give a shit. You can't say that they'd continue their silence should Byrson actually start actively killing and maiming people. The DUP created a monster here but have had to wash their hands of it since Fraizer and Byrson got involved.
I mean alot of Unionist would openly tell you the UDA/UVF are nothing more than criminal scum and regard them in the same way the RIRA in Dublin are thought of. So there's a difference in equating Byrson and the IRA up to this point.
QuoteThe thing is, you're basically saying that I'm right - no one would ever speak out against Bryson, even in private, for fear of letting the side down. There are no depths to which he can not plunge the North before people from his side will denounce him because you are with themmuns or agin 'em.
No you're wrong. There is a limit to which they will tolerate him and should he seek to drag us back to civil war then the state will lock him up and the Unionists will denounce him. This is all shadow games up here, we can't go around bombing and shooting so it's march and counter-march, we honour the hunger strikers, they want a flag, we march for St Patricks, they march for the 12th etc, etc.
30 years ago, Bryson would be a 23 year old with an armalite yelling "trick or treat", today's he's armed with a twitter account, a rangers top and a rudimentary grasp of the written language. It's all vestiges of a violent past and the trick is to prevent it escalating when tempers fray.
Quote from: trileacman on November 28, 2013, 05:01:25 PM
Aw you're still over-reading it though. There are very few OWCers on here so it's no barometer of general opposition, likewise comparing Nationalist opposition to the IRA and Unionist opposition to Byrson isn't right either. As of yet Byrson isn't going round setting off car bombs killing 15 a time so the prods aren't as pushed to go openly denouncing him. A few w**kers standing round the Ormeau Road isn't going to get them to break ranks.
When himself and Willie were arrested and put up on charges you'd have heard a pin drop, I can't recall any of the major parties getting worked up about it or anyone in my part of the world, they didn't really give a shit. You can't say that they'd continue their silence should Byrson actually start actively killing and maiming people. The DUP created a monster here but have had to wash their hands of it since Fraizer and Byrson got involved.
I mean alot of Unionist would openly tell you the UDA/UVF are nothing more than criminal scum and regard them in the same way the RIRA in Dublin are thought of. So there's a difference in equating Byrson and the IRA up to this point.
Fair comment.
Remember, a lot of leafy unionist suburbs are within stones throw of the the loyalist hoi polloi so silence is golden. If Bryson & Frazier do become a genuine threat to the peace process then you will see the shadows come out to play and reign them in. Remember Paul Berry.
Quote from: sensethetone on November 28, 2013, 03:57:43 PM
heard bryson on radio this mornin.. anyone who supports the gaa- supports terrorism aswell as any sponsorship of anythin to do with the gaa-supports terrorism. f mitchell then mentioned some of the top sponsors eg. ulster bank, super valu, bushmills, vodafone,02, canal court, o neills etc etc then frank goes are they sponsoring terrorism and jamie goes..... yes!
I guess Jamie and his fcukwit followers will be looking for a new electricity supplier (other than PowerNI), new mobile phone provider (other than 3, O2 or Vodafone...although they're all probably with Orange anyway), a new supermarket to shop in other than Tesco, Supervalu (and any other that allows GAA clubs to pack bags for shoppers), a new bank, whisky, pint, Bookmaker etc.
That's alot of businesses to boycott. Good luck with that, ya fcukwits!
this little fuckwit knows nothing of the troubles. says how pathetic loyalism is , when some people actually listen to this fool and see him as some sort of leading light for the lower loyalist classes, anybody with a brain wouldn't be seen near this sorry lot. Again i say if they had to do a days work, instead of f**king about with nothing to do during the day, they wouldn't have time for this crap. You got little to live for if u spend u days worried about a flag, rangers in the lower tiers of Scottish soccer, whats the Catholics are doing, and how British we can be to offend people. Then again anybody sensible from unionist point of view like Basil McCrea is lambasted for been a turn coat and a traitor
Quote from: trileacman on November 28, 2013, 04:00:37 PM
Deep down a vast majority of them feel their traditions and culture are being diluted to appease a Catholic mass who not too long ago where under cosh. It's an upset to the status quo and it irks a lot of them to a small degree.
When your tradition and culture is about displaying a lack of respect to those of a different religious conviction, then your culture and traditions are fcuked up. Hate fueled numpties running the show it would seem
Quote from: Bingo on November 28, 2013, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 28, 2013, 04:20:07 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 28, 2013, 04:18:44 PM
Bingo!
What about him?
I'll get my coat...
I turn my back for one minute and......
Sure we all know you set up all those dodgy cross border companies for the money making men to dry clean all their stuff!!! Complicit! :P
Quote from: trileacman on November 28, 2013, 04:00:37 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 28, 2013, 03:43:09 PM
Someone here (I hope) must know someone of the unionist persuasion in the North. If so, can you please confirm that people on the ground despair at the way that the likes of Jamie Bryson are allowed to speak on behalf of all of them without anyone shouting him down. The alternative - that people on the ground are so outraged over The Fleg that they quietly hope that he'll give Prods more traction in the zero-sum game with the Taigs - doesn't bear thinking about.
It's not that black and white. It's not simply people who back Bryson and those who silently despise him. A lot of them would not support him by going to protests or would not advocate his action in public either. But at the same time they wouldn't openly disparage him to a Catholic neighbour or whilst in public. Deep down a vast majority of them feel their traditions and culture are being diluted to appease a Catholic mass who not too long ago where under cosh. It's an upset to the status quo and it irks a lot of them to a small degree.
Not that I blame them, I mean whilst I would question the naming of some trophies and grounds after IRA members amongst my friends, family and indeed on this site, I wouldn't allow the same liberalism to infiltrate a conversation with a protestant from home. I wouldn't want to be seen to be seeking to appease the likes of Byrson, Fraizer and Donaldson by removing references to some of our own. It's about sticking up for your own side and all that.
It's a different thing up here, looking in isn't the same as living in.
It seems that there are quite a few people on this board who have little or no real contact with anyone from a unionist background. If you did, you'd be aware that most average unionists think Jamie and Willie are a couple of wankers. And they say so, quite loudly, to anyone who happens to be listening. Even on OWC, the prevailing view would be that the pair are complete dickheads. I haven't posted on that board for quite a while, but I'd still go on now and again to read what's been said and I can assure you that most people on OWC regard Jamie and Willie as comedy gold.
Quote from: BennyCake on November 28, 2013, 06:57:57 PM
Quote from: sensethetone on November 28, 2013, 03:57:43 PM
heard bryson on radio this mornin.. anyone who supports the gaa- supports terrorism aswell as any sponsorship of anythin to do with the gaa-supports terrorism. f mitchell then mentioned some of the top sponsors eg. ulster bank, super valu, bushmills, vodafone,02, canal court, o neills etc etc then frank goes are they sponsoring terrorism and jamie goes..... yes!
I guess Jamie and his fcukwit followers will be looking for a new electricity supplier (other than PowerNI), new mobile phone provider (other than 3, O2 or Vodafone...although they're all probably with Orange anyway), a new supermarket to shop in other than Tesco, Supervalu (and any other that allows GAA clubs to pack bags for shoppers), a new bank, whisky, pint, Bookmaker etc.
That's alot of businesses to boycott. Good luck with that, ya fcukwits!
A lot of ordinary Protestant people would have no idea that GAA is as big as it is, and would be surprised to hear that the likes of PowerNI, Tesco, Ulster Bank, Vodafone, 02 etc would be sponsoring them.
If you read the Newsletter or The Sun - No GAA
If you read the Belfast Telegraph or the Daily Mirror - GAA is hidden away out of sight of the ordinary decent prods.
If you live in the Greater Belfast Area,(but not Nationalist West Belfast) you might never really see GAA pitches.
If you listen to
any Northern Ireland radio station, GAA will
never be mentioned in ordinary conversation, In fact the only time GAA will ever be mentioned on non-sports news is when Unionist Politicians are invited on to slander it. ( Like this morning with Uncle Tom, Frank Mitchell)
Quote from: Myles Na G. on November 28, 2013, 07:54:35 PM
Quote from: trileacman on November 28, 2013, 04:00:37 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 28, 2013, 03:43:09 PM
Someone here (I hope) must know someone of the unionist persuasion in the North. If so, can you please confirm that people on the ground despair at the way that the likes of Jamie Bryson are allowed to speak on behalf of all of them without anyone shouting him down. The alternative - that people on the ground are so outraged over The Fleg that they quietly hope that he'll give Prods more traction in the zero-sum game with the Taigs - doesn't bear thinking about.
It's not that black and white. It's not simply people who back Bryson and those who silently despise him. A lot of them would not support him by going to protests or would not advocate his action in public either. But at the same time they wouldn't openly disparage him to a Catholic neighbour or whilst in public. Deep down a vast majority of them feel their traditions and culture are being diluted to appease a Catholic mass who not too long ago where under cosh. It's an upset to the status quo and it irks a lot of them to a small degree.
Not that I blame them, I mean whilst I would question the naming of some trophies and grounds after IRA members amongst my friends, family and indeed on this site, I wouldn't allow the same liberalism to infiltrate a conversation with a protestant from home. I wouldn't want to be seen to be seeking to appease the likes of Byrson, Fraizer and Donaldson by removing references to some of our own. It's about sticking up for your own side and all that.
It's a different thing up here, looking in isn't the same as living in.
It seems that there are quite a few people on this board who have little or no real contact with anyone from a unionist background. If you did, you'd be aware that most average unionists think Jamie and Willie are a couple of w**kers. And they say so, quite loudly, to anyone who happens to be listening. Even on OWC, the prevailing view would be that the pair are complete d**kheads. I haven't posted on that board for quite a while, but I'd still go on now and again to read what's been said and I can assure you that most people on OWC regard Jamie and Willie as comedy gold.
While what you say is true to a point, they still appeal to a worrying type of character who would think nothing of filling a can full of petrol and burning a GAA hall down. They need to be starved of publicity but the fact that the mainstream politicians, not the average Joe Public Protestant, sit back and allow them to spew their nonsense to my mind shows a certain element of complicity as they are happy for Jamie and Willie to have a real good cut off themmuns.
Quote from: deiseach on November 28, 2013, 04:02:40 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 28, 2013, 03:58:29 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 28, 2013, 03:54:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 28, 2013, 03:50:22 PM
It's the former.
The PUP seem to be pushing these protests too. They voted for the flag to come down. Anyone with any wit isn't involved - the DUP started it to get ALliance out of east belfast, the UVF etc jumped on board and then "opportunists" like the PUP and Bryson came on board. It's all a crock of shit and anyone with any sense knows it.
Yes, but do you know anyone who is willing to say in private that's it's a crock of shit?
Careful between the difference of Unionists and Loyalists.
The Unionists by and large wash their hands of these protesters.
I'm aware of the difference. But no matter how hard I look (and i look a lot), I can't see any evidence of a silent majority of Unionists who think Jamie Bryson is damaging to their cause. Which makes me think that they might not be out there. I'm willing to be proven wrong. Heck, even a silent minority would be nice so that I can dispel the lingering feeling that they'd all side with Jamie rather than be giving an inch to the Fenians.
Deiseach, there is 6 prods in our work, one an orange lodge grand master and all of them had openly expressed to me about how disgusted they were with the flag protests. Maybe in derry it's not as bitter. There flag protest here got about 20 odd scumbags and that was it.
Quote from: Feckitt on November 28, 2013, 08:01:22 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 28, 2013, 06:57:57 PM
Quote from: sensethetone on November 28, 2013, 03:57:43 PM
heard bryson on radio this mornin.. anyone who supports the gaa- supports terrorism aswell as any sponsorship of anythin to do with the gaa-supports terrorism. f mitchell then mentioned some of the top sponsors eg. ulster bank, super valu, bushmills, vodafone,02, canal court, o neills etc etc then frank goes are they sponsoring terrorism and jamie goes..... yes!
I guess Jamie and his fcukwit followers will be looking for a new electricity supplier (other than PowerNI), new mobile phone provider (other than 3, O2 or Vodafone...although they're all probably with Orange anyway), a new supermarket to shop in other than Tesco, Supervalu (and any other that allows GAA clubs to pack bags for shoppers), a new bank, whisky, pint, Bookmaker etc.
That's alot of businesses to boycott. Good luck with that, ya fcukwits!
A lot of ordinary Protestant people would have no idea that GAA is as big as it is, and would be surprised to hear that the likes of PowerNI, Tesco, Ulster Bank, Vodafone, 02 etc would be sponsoring them.
If you read the Newsletter or The Sun - No GAA
If you read the Belfast Telegraph or the Daily Mirror - GAA is hidden away out of sight of the ordinary decent prods.
If you live in the Greater Belfast Area,(but not Nationalist West Belfast) you might never really see GAA pitches.
If you listen to any Northern Ireland radio station, GAA will never be mentioned in ordinary conversation, In fact the only time GAA will ever be mentioned on non-sports news is when Unionist Politicians are invited on to slander it. ( Like this morning with Uncle Tom, Frank Mitchell)
It's different up East. In my rural area they'd all have a fair idea when Tyrone were going well and winning stuff with many of them tuning in for the final to see what the fuss is/how we do.
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on November 28, 2013, 06:47:08 PM
Remember, a lot of leafy unionist suburbs are within stones throw of the the loyalist hoi polloi so silence is golden. If Bryson & Frazier do become a genuine threat to the peace process then you will see the shadows come out to play and reign them in. Remember Paul Berry.
Was Paul just not partial to a rub of the relic ?
Quote from: Myles Na G. on November 28, 2013, 07:54:35 PM
Quote from: trileacman on November 28, 2013, 04:00:37 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 28, 2013, 03:43:09 PM
Someone here (I hope) must know someone of the unionist persuasion in the North. If so, can you please confirm that people on the ground despair at the way that the likes of Jamie Bryson are allowed to speak on behalf of all of them without anyone shouting him down. The alternative - that people on the ground are so outraged over The Fleg that they quietly hope that he'll give Prods more traction in the zero-sum game with the Taigs - doesn't bear thinking about.
It's not that black and white. It's not simply people who back Bryson and those who silently despise him. A lot of them would not support him by going to protests or would not advocate his action in public either. But at the same time they wouldn't openly disparage him to a Catholic neighbour or whilst in public. Deep down a vast majority of them feel their traditions and culture are being diluted to appease a Catholic mass who not too long ago where under cosh. It's an upset to the status quo and it irks a lot of them to a small degree.
Not that I blame them, I mean whilst I would question the naming of some trophies and grounds after IRA members amongst my friends, family and indeed on this site, I wouldn't allow the same liberalism to infiltrate a conversation with a protestant from home. I wouldn't want to be seen to be seeking to appease the likes of Byrson, Fraizer and Donaldson by removing references to some of our own. It's about sticking up for your own side and all that.
It's a different thing up here, looking in isn't the same as living in.
It seems that there are quite a few people on this board who have little or no real contact with anyone from a unionist background. If you did, you'd be aware that most average unionists think Jamie and Willie are a couple of w**kers. And they say so, quite loudly, to anyone who happens to be listening. Even on OWC, the prevailing view would be that the pair are complete d**kheads. I haven't posted on that board for quite a while, but I'd still go on now and again to read what's been said and I can assure you that most people on OWC regard Jamie and Willie as comedy gold.
The problem is that with the comments he's making against the GAA he is no longer comedy. He is becoming dangerous.
when the sole purpose of your 'culture' is hating someone else's this leaves you in a seriously messed position and JB is a product of this.
Quote from: NAG1 on November 29, 2013, 08:50:44 AM
when the sole purpose of your 'culture' is hating someone else's this leaves you in a seriously messed position and JB is a product of this.
thats how ye be "british" in the north ;)
Quote from: sensethetone on November 29, 2013, 08:59:59 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 29, 2013, 08:50:44 AM
when the sole purpose of your 'culture' is hating someone else's this leaves you in a seriously messed position and JB is a product of this.
thats how ye be "british" in the north ;)
Thats how you be British anywhere.
Quote from: trileacman on November 28, 2013, 05:01:25 PM
Quote from: deiseach on November 28, 2013, 04:15:59 PM
The thing is, you're basically saying that I'm right - no one would ever speak out against Bryson, even in private, for fear of letting the side down. There are no depths to which he can not plunge the North before people from his side will denounce him because you are with themmuns or agin 'em.
No you're wrong. There is a limit to which they will tolerate him and should he seek to drag us back to civil war then the state will lock him up and the Unionists will denounce him. This is all shadow games up here, we can't go around bombing and shooting so it's march and counter-march, we honour the hunger strikers, they want a flag, we march for St Patricks, they march for the 12th etc, etc.
30 years ago, Bryson would be a 23 year old with an armalite yelling "trick or treat", today's he's armed with a twitter account, a rangers top and a rudimentary grasp of the written language. It's all vestiges of a violent past and the trick is to prevent it escalating when tempers fray.
I'm genuinely glad to see someone tell me I'm wrong on this and I bow to your superior knowledge of the situation - I asked the questions in the hope that someone would provide me with some answers. I would say though that history tells us over and over again that waiting for those engaging in shadow games to do something that isn't a shadow game before putting them down is a very dangerous game. The authorities all over Europe were only too happy when Gavrilo Princip stopped engaging in a shadow game by shooting Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
Quote from: orangeman on November 29, 2013, 12:51:45 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on November 28, 2013, 06:47:08 PM
Remember, a lot of leafy unionist suburbs are within stones throw of the the loyalist hoi polloi so silence is golden. If Bryson & Frazier do become a genuine threat to the peace process then you will see the shadows come out to play and reign them in. Remember Paul Berry.
Was Paul just not partial to a rub of the relic ?
That Paul Berry was as bitter as they come. I still have a laugh from time to time when I think about how the DUP got rid of him when he was caught with a male hooker.
Anyone know what he is at now?
Quote from: Keepthefaith93 on November 29, 2013, 09:15:54 AM
Quote from: orangeman on November 29, 2013, 12:51:45 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on November 28, 2013, 06:47:08 PM
Remember, a lot of leafy unionist suburbs are within stones throw of the the loyalist hoi polloi so silence is golden. If Bryson & Frazier do become a genuine threat to the peace process then you will see the shadows come out to play and reign them in. Remember Paul Berry.
Was Paul just not partial to a rub of the relic ?
That Paul Berry was as bitter as they come. I still have a laugh from time to time when I think about how the DUP got rid of him when he was caught with a male hooker.
Anyone know what he is at now?
The same thing probably.
Quote from: orangeman on November 29, 2013, 10:04:41 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith93 on November 29, 2013, 09:15:54 AM
Quote from: orangeman on November 29, 2013, 12:51:45 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on November 28, 2013, 06:47:08 PM
Remember, a lot of leafy unionist suburbs are within stones throw of the the loyalist hoi polloi so silence is golden. If Bryson & Frazier do become a genuine threat to the peace process then you will see the shadows come out to play and reign them in. Remember Paul Berry.
Was Paul just not partial to a rub of the relic ?
That Paul Berry was as bitter as they come. I still have a laugh from time to time when I think about how the DUP got rid of him when he was caught with a male hooker.
Anyone know what he is at now?
The same thing probably.
;D ;D Probably.
Never seen anyone go off the scene like it.
Quote from: Keepthefaith93 on November 29, 2013, 10:06:56 AM
Quote from: orangeman on November 29, 2013, 10:04:41 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith93 on November 29, 2013, 09:15:54 AM
Quote from: orangeman on November 29, 2013, 12:51:45 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on November 28, 2013, 06:47:08 PM
Remember, a lot of leafy unionist suburbs are within stones throw of the the loyalist hoi polloi so silence is golden. If Bryson & Frazier do become a genuine threat to the peace process then you will see the shadows come out to play and reign them in. Remember Paul Berry.
Was Paul just not partial to a rub of the relic ?
That Paul Berry was as bitter as they come. I still have a laugh from time to time when I think about how the DUP got rid of him when he was caught with a male hooker.
Anyone know what he is at now?
The same thing probably.
;D ;D Probably.
Never seen anyone go off the scene like it.
He is on council,elected in 2011 as an independent Unionist,heard him on radio two weeks ago.Still at the Gospel singing and still married but would think he is getting the odd rub down for all those sports injuries he has.
Can't understand why the Irish News gives any publicity to these imbeciles....they are getting more and more like the Sun/Mirror.
Quote from: Keepthefaith93 on November 29, 2013, 10:06:56 AM
Never seen anyone go off the scene like it.
Gary McMichael. Though that was just due to the party going defunct, but still, he just vanished from public life fairly instantly.
Quote from: Count 10 on November 29, 2013, 10:34:05 AM
Can't understand why the Irish News gives any publicity to these imbeciles....they are getting more and more like the Sun/Mirror.
Totally agree - stopped buying it a long time ago.
Can't understand why the Irish News gives any publicity to these imbeciles....they are getting more and more like the Sun/Mirror.
for the same reason why he has his own thread here. of him on here. Any sewer rat can make a name for himself these day by being portrayed as the most bigoted of all on TV/Radio/Social media so long as they are savvy enough not to condone violence. Can't understand why the media give him so much publicity tho. The National Front are not afforded any media time in NE England but there's plenty who would spout the same sort of crap over there if they got the chance.
Ignore and he'll go away eventually. Deleting thread would be a good start.
Bryson and his like will always be the noisy minority. They can easily gather some headlines with over the top statements like this and hold the odd protest that will have a handful of participants but create alot of headlines and hassle.
500 people on a protest can be alot of harm. In addition you'll have the anti-social teenagers who would be only too happy to have a cause to channel their anti-social behaviour.
If they manage to drag 1,000 "supporters" along to their protest that is 99,000 others from the same backround sitting at home shaking their head.
Ignore them and they soon lose numbers and go back to their normal routine.
Quote from: Bingo on November 29, 2013, 11:03:59 AM
Bryson and his like will always be the noisy minority. They can easily gather some headlines with over the top statements like this and hold the odd protest that will have a handful of participants but create alot of headlines and hassle.
500 people on a protest can be alot of harm. In addition you'll have the anti-social teenagers who would be only too happy to have a cause to channel their anti-social behaviour.
If they manage to drag 1,000 "supporters" along to their protest that is 99,000 others from the same backround sitting at home shaking their head.
Ignore them and they soon lose numbers and go back to their normal routine.
This sort of thing is normal for bigots like him.
Id bet he comes on here for a wee browse reading this thread! (Yankin the plank probably)
In fact if you google him it's on the first page, so it's a cert.
In all seriousness, what life experiences has he had at 23 to be so bitter? The GFA was signed 15 years ago when he'd have been about 8!
If brwson & wee wullie wounder are the future of loyalism I'm happy enough. Comedy Gold, & there not a brain cell nor backbone between them.
The CNR / PUL war has been won. We've achieved equality in the north that 40 years ago would have been unimaginable. Regards a united ireland - our future is in our own hands. Rising catholic population, declining Protestant population, and the legislation is there for a referendum. The irony after all the fighting is that many of us now may be happy enough to remain in the UK!
Bitter pills like Jaymay Brwson are there to be enjoyed though. I love listening to him for a good cackle and that's why the likes of the Irish news report on him
I'm a bit worried that the attitude towards him is so blasé. We all know that rational people will not take comments like this too seriously, but in fairness it appears that a lot of the people out on the streets or who listen to this lad are not exactly bastions of common sense and tolerance. You don't have to be a rational person to light up an auld molatov cocktail.
If some of these tulips take his comments about the GAA at face value, then that's bad news and I don't think we can afford to say 'Ah sure anyone with half a brain knows he's an idiot'.
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 29, 2013, 11:47:49 AM
You don't have to be a rational person to light up an auld molatov cocktail.
Stuck in the heart of a mob, even an otherwise rational person might reach for the bottle. "Now let it work. Mischief, thou art afoot. Take thou what course thou wilt!" (h/t to Google and some Tudor/Jacobean hack).
Jamie has left himself wide open to a defamation action by several large companies who sponsor the GAA by his totally unfounded claims.
He is no longer funny or to be pitied, he is now a danger.
Quote from: deiseach on November 29, 2013, 11:56:11 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 29, 2013, 11:47:49 AM
You don't have to be a rational person to light up an auld molatov cocktail.
Stuck in the heart of a mob, even an otherwise rational person might reach for the bottle. "Now let it work. Mischief, thou art afoot. Take thou what course thou wilt!" (h/t to Google and some Tudor/Jacobean hack).
The biggest problem AZ is that he is given airtime. He is gold for sensationalist media types like Nolan and to be honest the likes of the Irish News has descended very far down that same road too.
Sane people will ignore him and those who aren't won't. i don't know how you get rid of him - it's the fault of the media.
Get him to go on X factor, they seem to disappear shortly after that.
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 29, 2013, 02:15:10 PM
Get him to go on X factor, they seem to disappear shortly after that.
tell him that the X factor is sponsoring the northern ireland gaa team... i'd like to see that picket
Can see him tripped up soon enough.
He'll be exposed in the papers for doing something or someone he shouldn't and will be a figure of mockery after it.
See Billy Hutchinson was complaining about loyalists being treated like white trash...
Well, maybe if loyalists stopped behaving like white trash then people would stop treating them like white trash, it isn't rocket science you double-murdering fuckwit
BBC estimates that 1,500 (so that means about half of that) took part in march today. A complete joke.
Quote from: southdown on November 29, 2013, 01:12:06 PM
Jamie has left himself wide open to a defamation action by several large companies who sponsor the GAA by his totally unfounded claims.
He is no longer funny or to be pitied, he is now a danger.
What we need now is for a member of the Royal Family to sponsor jerseys for the London Gaa team, or something like that.
I honestly think Bryson and Wullie represent the suffocating hatred wing of Loyalism, and the only oxygen they get is our reaction.
Just laugh at them.
Quote from: AQMP on November 30, 2013, 09:14:38 PM
BBC estimates that 1,500 (so that means about half of that) took part in march today. A complete joke.
They were expecting 5000 participants and 5000 hangers on. Unfortunately in this shithole it only takes 1 eejit.
Clipped two policemen which is sure to win them great favours with the powers that be.
Seriously lads, delete this thread FFS ;D giving a wee w**ker like that a platform is exactly what he wants. IGNORE
Byson is an OWC activist isn't he?
He appears top accurately reflects the views of many loyalists including Myles na Lies, that the GAA is this terror sporting group and that bunch of bigots. Just they are too lazy/uninterested to do anything on a social protest level about it. Instead they cringe in embarrassment and try to distance themselves from their own prejudices, by labelling Jamie and his followers as white trash.
It's hard to tell these days which trash is which and decide which is good trash, middling trash and pure trash.
Should unionists not embrace Jamie for telling it like it is?
Quote from: Main Street on December 01, 2013, 09:14:11 AM
Byson is an OWC activist isn't he?
He appears top accurately reflects the views of many loyalists including Myles na Lies, that the GAA is this terror sporting group and that bunch of bigots. Just they are too lazy/uninterested to do anything on a social protest level about it. Instead they cringe in embarrassment and try to distance themselves from their own prejudices, by labelling Jamie and his followers as white trash.
It's hard to tell these days which trash is which and decide which is good trash, middling trash and pure trash.
Should unionists not embrace Jamie for telling it like it is?
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For the last time Muppet, Mary McAleese was not a terrorist, she was just born in Ulster.
And whilst we still remember Crossmaglen etc, that image of the Royal family at CP just goes to show that the GAA still has a warm heart and hasn't forgotten its manners.
It's funny how numbers are counted, the Sunday Life today said there was 3000 at it but I'd heard reports that there was 1500 at it. Irish News will have a 1000 at it in tomorrows edition
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Great to see that bloke getting applause for "picking something up".
Tune in next week to see him "setting something down"
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2013, 09:06:52 PM
It's funny how numbers are counted, the Sunday Life today said there was 3000 at it but I'd heard reports that there was 1500 at it. Irish News will have a 1000 at it in tomorrows edition
I think the peelers had it at 1500. Would have said they have more of a clue on the Sunday Life, which no doubt inflated their figures to keep their Orange readership happy.
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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2013, 09:06:52 PM
It's funny how numbers are counted, the Sunday Life today said there was 3000 at it but I'd heard reports that there was 1500 at it. Irish News will have a 1000 at it in tomorrows edition
I think the peelers had it at 1500. Would have said they have more of a clue on the Sunday Life, which no doubt inflated their figures to keep their Orange readership happy.
Aye I thought that, oh i read it while standing in a queue in shop, I wouldn't buy a paper, don't think Ive bought one in over 10 years. Are they still popular
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Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2013, 09:17:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2013, 09:06:52 PM
It's funny how numbers are counted, the Sunday Life today said there was 3000 at it but I'd heard reports that there was 1500 at it. Irish News will have a 1000 at it in tomorrows edition
I think the peelers had it at 1500. Would have said they have more of a clue on the Sunday Life, which no doubt inflated their figures to keep their Orange readership happy.
Aye I thought that, oh i read it while standing in a queue in shop, I wouldn't buy a paper, don't think Ive bought one in over 10 years. Are they still popular
20 years ago there would have been about 50,000 there. Forty years ago the power stations would have been shut down and bread would have been rationed! This sort of street protest is backfiring. It's obvious they can't get a crowd out.
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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2013, 09:21:52 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2013, 09:17:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2013, 09:06:52 PM
It's funny how numbers are counted, the Sunday Life today said there was 3000 at it but I'd heard reports that there was 1500 at it. Irish News will have a 1000 at it in tomorrows edition
I think the peelers had it at 1500. Would have said they have more of a clue on the Sunday Life, which no doubt inflated their figures to keep their Orange readership happy.
Aye I thought that, oh i read it while standing in a queue in shop, I wouldn't buy a paper, don't think Ive bought one in over 10 years. Are they still popular
20 years ago there would have been about 50,000 there. Forty years ago the power stations would have been shut down and bread would have been rationed! This sort of street protest is backfiring. It's obvious they can't get a crowd out.
Dying kick form them,all we need to do is keep the pressure on.I just wish everyone could see this and not still think its 1798.The fight is almost won.
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It's not that black and white. It's not simply people who back Bryson and those who silently despise him. A lot of them would not support him by going to protests or would not advocate his action in public either. But at the same time they wouldn't openly disparage him to a Catholic neighbour or whilst in public. Deep down a vast majority of them feel their traditions and culture are being diluted to appease a Catholic mass who not too long ago where under cosh. It's an upset to the status quo and it irks a lot of them to a small degree.
Not that I blame them, I mean whilst I would question the naming of some trophies and grounds after IRA members amongst my friends, family and indeed on this site, I wouldn't allow the same liberalism to infiltrate a conversation with a protestant from home. I wouldn't want to be seen to be seeking to appease the likes of Byrson, Fraizer and Donaldson by removing references to some of our own. It's about sticking up for your own side and all that.
It's a different thing up here, looking in isn't the same as living in.
Thanks for the considered response. The thing is, you're basically saying that I'm right - no one would ever speak out against Bryson, even in private, for fear of letting the side down. There are no depths to which he can not plunge the North before people from his side will denounce him because you are with themmuns or agin 'em. And I don't think there are two sides to this story. There was widespread and vocal opposition to the Provos right throughout the Troubles from Nationalists. There is no comparable constituency in Unionism. You don't see the various OWCers here saying that Bryson doesn't speak for anyone because the fact of the matter is that he does, or at least they would choose to tolerate him rather say anything against him. That's not to say that the individual contributors think this way, just that they couldn't say with a straight face that he represents a completely extermist viewpoint. Faced with that, it does make me wonder (and ironically I'll probably regret saying this) whether the Shinner apologists on here have a point, i.e. that the Brits and Unionists couldn't have been brought to a compromise until they had been bombed to one.
Bingo!
Tehy wouldn't have been bombed into it, they were reluctantly pressured into it by HM Government who in turn were bombed to that position. That's why they don't really face up to the reality of the GFA.
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20 years ago there would have been about 50,000 there. Forty years ago the power stations would have been shut down and bread would have been rationed! This sort of street protest is backfiring. It's obvious they can't get a crowd out.
How many were at the Ulster Club final? Which will get the greater attention on UTV?
We needy organise a sit down with wee Jamie and rugby legend & Ulster protestant Willie Anderson. Willie will give the wee hooer a few home truths about the GAA and why the association is good enough for his kids
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20 years ago there would have been about 50,000 there. Forty years ago the power stations would have been shut down and bread would have been rationed! This sort of street protest is backfiring. It's obvious they can't get a crowd out.
How many were at the Ulster Club final? Which will get the greater attention on UTV?
The paper says there were only 6,000 at the match but there had to be more than that the queue for traffic was fecking unreal!! THe stand was full and a fair part of the terrace on the far side as well!
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20 years ago there would have been about 50,000 there. Forty years ago the power stations would have been shut down and bread would have been rationed! This sort of street protest is backfiring. It's obvious they can't get a crowd out.
How many were at the Ulster Club final? Which will get the greater attention on UTV?
The paper says there were only 6,000 at the match but there had to be more than that the queue for traffic was fecking unreal!! THe stand was full and a fair part of the terrace on the far side as well!
Ulster council keeping the VAT returns down I'd say.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2013, 09:06:52 PM
It's funny how numbers are counted, the Sunday Life today said there was 3000 at it but I'd heard reports that there was 1500 at it. Irish News will have a 1000 at it in tomorrows edition
Had to laugh when I saw the front of the IN today...they did indeed quote the figure as being slightly over 1000.
Quote from: screenexile on December 02, 2013, 03:11:43 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 02, 2013, 01:44:18 PM
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20 years ago there would have been about 50,000 there. Forty years ago the power stations would have been shut down and bread would have been rationed! This sort of street protest is backfiring. It's obvious they can't get a crowd out.
How many were at the Ulster Club final? Which will get the greater attention on UTV?
The paper says there were only 6,000 at the match but there had to be more than that the queue for traffic was fecking unreal!! THe stand was full and a fair part of the terrace on the far side as well!
There was plenty of space in the stand from the TV footage.
From Jamies facebook page
If PPS don't get their act together and make a decision then as a responsible British citizen I will be obliged to make a citizens arrest of Bomber Kelly to prevent any further breaches of the British law
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Jamie and willie the gift that keeps on giving!
Would love to see him attempt this. Gerry would have some laugh..
He will be flanked by Saffrongael and Dixie should be some Craic :P :P
I'm sure Gerry is upping his security detail as we speak. The wee p***k would shit himself if Kelly looked sideways at him.
Does monday suit him or does he "sign on" that day. I would say he has a very hectic schedule.
I haven't read the piece in the paper but don't you have to witness/suspect a crime is being committed to make a citizen's arrest?? Detaining another individual is, in itself, an offence.
But Jamie is now a legal adviser, he will know the law inside out!
He's going to look some pr!ck now when he does nothing! :D
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 03, 2014, 04:29:49 PM
He's going to look some pr!ck now when he does nothing! :D
Nah, he reached that stage a long time ago, the lisping little p***k
Dog sex video man Wayne Bryson spared jail term
A man whose ex-girlfriend found a video showing him having sex with her dog has escaped a custodial sentence.
Wayne Bryson, 19, of Harvey's Lane, Louth, admitted performing an act of sexual penetration with a Staffordshire bull terrier in January, contrary to the Sexual Offences Act.
Bryson was handed a four-month sentence suspended for two years at Skegness Magistrates' Court.
He was also placed on the sex offenders register for seven years.
Quote from: under the bar on March 06, 2014, 03:15:51 PM
Dog sex video man Wayne Bryson spared jail term
A man whose ex-girlfriend found a video showing him having sex with her dog has escaped a custodial sentence.
Wayne Bryson, 19, of Harvey's Lane, Louth, admitted performing an act of sexual penetration with a Staffordshire bull terrier in January, contrary to the Sexual Offences Act.
Bryson was handed a four-month sentence suspended for two years at Skegness Magistrates' Court.
He was also placed on the sex offenders register for seven years.
And the dog would be considered "dangerous"
QuoteStatement regarding European Election:
Given the recent speculation that TUV leader Jim Allister intends to run in the European Election, and given UKIP have already confirmed they are standing, I wish to announce that I will be withdrawing from this particular race, focusing instead on local Council and Stormont elections this year and next.
I believe that with potentially both Jim Allister and Henry Reilly on the ballot paper, Unionists have a chance to vote for either of these two men and receive strong representation in Europe.
I believe Jim Allister has a strong track record in Europe and is the only Stormont MLA to hold Sinn Fein/IRA to account. He has been a thorn in the side of the DUP and literally has them On The Run!
I urge Jim Allister to take this fight to the polls; many within Ulster will rally behind you!
Whilst I disagree with Jim's definition of loyalist combatants as terrorists, aside from this there is little that I would disagree with him on. I share his view of the Stormont institutions and the mandatory veto granted to Sinn Fein/IRA. I, like Jim, am also a fierce opponent of the iniquitous Belfast Agreement which is now implemented in all its glory by the DUP!
Henry Reilly is also a strong candidate who has already confirmed he is standing and UKIP are a growing party within the United Kingdom as a whole. Henry was a strong supporter of the Union Flag protests and again provides the Protestant, Unionist & Loyalist community with a good choice on the ballot paper.
Both men also hold fast to a traditional Protestant ethos and uphold Biblical principles.
I would urge all within the PUL community to put your faith in either Jim Allister (if he stands) or Henry Reilly in the European Election.
My personal decision to withdraw is based upon a number of factors.
Firstly I believe that the two above mentioned candidates have a better chance than I of reaching the required quota, therefore I believe it is for the greater good of our community to rally behind them.
I must also say that raising £5,000 plus Election expenses, on top of the money required for the local Council campaign, is a big ask for any individual without a party behind them.
It must be noted that I am only one individual; therefore the challenge of raising funds is much more difficult.
I thank all those who have donated to my campaign, either online through Go Fund Me, through private donations or memorabilia to be auctioned.
The money raised so far will go towards my Local Council campaign. If anyone wishes to look at the recorded list of donations they may do so.
A list of expenses will also be submitted to the Electoral Commission, as per requirements, following the completion of the Election.
Whilst the black propaganda campaign waged by a co-ordinated group of internet trolls, media outlets and puppets of OFMDFM has undoubtedly been a challenge, it has failed and will continue to fail.
These puppets of the 'process' fail to understand the bonds of friendship, that can't be broken by a concerted campaign of vilification, and they also fail to grasp that no matter what, they will not change me. Their strategy with people who oppose the system is three fold.
They seek to direct such a vicious campaign of intense pressure and vilification against you that you buckle; they seek to criminalise your political dissent by abusing the justice system so as to restrict your ability to politically challenge the status quo and running parallel to this they always hold out hope that they can buy you and thus absorb you into the system that you once so venomously opposed.
They have failed on all counts. I just wonder what their next desperate step is to silence political dissent.
If anyone has witnessed firsthand the criminalisation attempts and laughable, albeit quite desperate, PSNI attempts within the Courtroom to have conditions placed upon me that would restrict any political activity, they will have no doubt as to just how far the system will go to protect the 'process'; a process built upon Murder, Lies and Appeasement!
I look forward to fighting the local Government election and whether elected or not, I will continue to politically campaign against the current process of appeasement using all lawful means available to me.
I thank all those who continue to support me.
Our cause is not founded upon a desire for financial gain or power, but instead upon the fundamental principles of the reformed faith and a love for our Country and the freedoms that our forefathers fought and died to maintain.
There are three things that cannot be long hidden; The Sun, the Moon and the Truth!
No Surrender!
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And LAD donated a fiver. This a) gives me hope and b) begs the question "Why do we even know this gimp's name?"
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 31, 2014, 04:38:06 PM
And LAD donated a fiver.
I think it was actually more than that.
He disagrees with Jim Allisters view that loyalist combatants are terrorists! So how would he classify the 100 strong mob who wrecked 3 houses in Larne last night?
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 31, 2014, 07:00:27 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 31, 2014, 04:38:06 PM
And LAD donated a fiver.
I think it was actually more than that.
£20 and Jamie changed it from a public to anonymous donation.
See Mr. Bryson on holiday in Turkey with his friends. Genuinely confused here, what the f**k are they doing? Did they really bring flags and drums to Turkey so they could march up and down and sing the Sash?
They are a very strange group of people.
http://t.co/Jxz3hbb7Jt
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
See Mr. Bryson on holiday in Turkey with his friends. Genuinely confused here, what the f**k are they doing? Did they really bring flags and drums to Turkey so they could march up and down and sing the Sash?
They are a very strange group of people.
http://t.co/Jxz3hbb7Jt
Probably just trying to make amends with the fellow fleggers after letting the side down so badly on his last trip to Turkey.
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Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
See Mr. Bryson on holiday in Turkey with his friends. Genuinely confused here, what the f**k are they doing? Did they really bring flags and drums to Turkey so they could march up and down and sing the Sash?
They are a very strange group of people.
http://t.co/Jxz3hbb7Jt
This surely belongs in the WTF thread, that is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen.
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
See Mr. Bryson on holiday in Turkey with his friends. Genuinely confused here, what the f**k are they doing? Did they really bring flags and drums to Turkey so they could march up and down and sing the Sash?
They are a very strange group of people.
http://t.co/Jxz3hbb7Jt
Likely got a grant/funding for it.
did you notice the lad making a lunge at the turkish lad walking past him. Ignorant ****. They just can't help themselves.(About 1.22 in)
Tidy wee blonde piece walking alongside him, bird in the green hat looks tidy from behind too.
Quote from: Bingo on June 19, 2014, 02:34:08 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
See Mr. Bryson on holiday in Turkey with his friends. Genuinely confused here, what the f**k are they doing? Did they really bring flags and drums to Turkey so they could march up and down and sing the Sash?
They are a very strange group of people.
http://t.co/Jxz3hbb7Jt
Likely got a grant/funding for it.
Whatever happened that money that was raised for his "election campaign?"
ah balls...I had forgotten about that wee pillock
Quote from: NAG1 on June 19, 2014, 02:33:26 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
See Mr. Bryson on holiday in Turkey with his friends. Genuinely confused here, what the f**k are they doing? Did they really bring flags and drums to Turkey so they could march up and down and sing the Sash?
They are a very strange group of people.
http://t.co/Jxz3hbb7Jt
They only know 1 verse of any song, even i know at least 5 verses of the sash fs! Spose he would say it was a loyalist medley to give the Turks a flavour of Orange fest.
This surely belongs in the WTF thread, that is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen.
That is cringe material! Grown men and women jumping about shouting bouncy bouncy bouncy ffs.
Jesus H. Christ,
How can he go to Turkey on the dole ?
;D ;D sad but sure they can't sing it in many laces now so good luck to the Turks.They should give CARA a call
Quote from: Kidder81 on June 19, 2014, 09:58:23 PM
How can he go to Turkey on the dole ?
Probably got a grant.
I know that you shouldn't wish ill on anyone but I would love to see c***ts like him looked up in a Turkish jail and left to the the devices of big Amir!!!
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Would someone not get him a new sash...so he doesn't have to wear his Da's?
Do these lads actually pack flags and flag poles to bring away on holidays? Wierdos.
Quote from: hardstation on June 20, 2014, 12:04:08 AM
LAD's use of 'are' instead of 'our' annoys the shite out of me.
Our LADs in Crumlin Jail.
Are LADs in Crumlin Jail?
Aye but themmuns use it for "our". Respect are culture.
I've seen many things. I've seen this. My brain is processing this. Don't expect a result for some time.
From reading on here, some of the LADS are unemployed.
'They can afford it' is the usual argument to increase taxes on workers. This argument always comes without supporting evidence. Well obviously these LADS can afford a cut to their benefits if holidaying in Turkey is within their unearned budget.
Quote from: Itchy on June 19, 2014, 11:42:53 PM
Do these lads actually pack flags and flag poles to bring away on holidays? Wierdos.
I remember going to Thailand and we were booked in to a high-rise hotel on the beach that was surrounded by similar hotels. We went in to our room for the first time and I made for the balcony to take in the view. Scanning the beautiful vista, my eye was caught by something purple hanging from a neighbouring hotel balcony, a big f**k-off UVF flag ... even thousands of miles away these scum can't help themselves from practically cocking their hind legs and marking out territory.
Quote from: red hander on June 20, 2014, 05:08:47 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 19, 2014, 11:42:53 PM
Do these lads actually pack flags and flag poles to bring away on holidays? Wierdos.
I remember going to Thailand and we were booked in to a high-rise hotel on the beach that was surrounded by similar hotels. We went in to our room for the first time and I made for the balcony to take in the view. Scanning the beautiful vista, my eye was caught by something purple hanging from a neighbouring hotel balcony, a big f**k-off UVF flag ... even thousands of miles away these scum can't help themselves from practically cocking their hind legs and marking out territory.
That is the inherent 'colonial' attitude in them, but don't fool yourself that they are on their own. There are enough tricolours etc hung out with 'such and such On Tour' and it is par for the course with some. I wouldn't reckon though that you would have West Belfast on Tour singing and marching in Corfu to celebrate the 15th August!
I know of a couple of families from over here who were in Benidorm over the 12th holidays and had a beach bonfire on the 11 the night and a wee parade next day
Quote from: hardstation on June 20, 2014, 12:04:08 AM
LAD's use of 'are' instead of 'our' annoys the shite out of me.
Our LADs in Crumlin Jail.
Are LADs in Crumlin Jail?
And thats the reason why today they keep ARE lads in Crumlin Jail
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
See Mr. Bryson on holiday in Turkey with his friends. Genuinely confused here, what the f**k are they doing? Did they really bring flags and drums to Turkey so they could march up and down and sing the Sash?
They are a very strange group of people.
http://t.co/Jxz3hbb7Jt
That's class. Fair play til them. Harmless oul craic.
Quote from: hardstation on June 20, 2014, 12:04:08 AM
LAD's use of 'are' instead of 'our' annoys the shite out of me.
Our LADs in Crumlin Jail.
Are LADs in Crumlin Jail?
LAD used to be funny/interesting. Self important wankers now
Quote from: Kidder81 on June 21, 2014, 12:00:09 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 20, 2014, 12:04:08 AM
LAD's use of 'are' instead of 'our' annoys the shite out of me.
Our LADs in Crumlin Jail.
Are LADs in Crumlin Jail?
LAD used to be funny/interesting. Self important w**kers now
A lot of the stuff they post is pure rubbish, but they still provide an important role. They expose a lot of stuff that the mainstream media won't go near until they are forced too. The most recent case being Pastor McConnell.and the fall-out over it.
Quote from: ziggysego on June 21, 2014, 12:05:16 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on June 21, 2014, 12:00:09 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 20, 2014, 12:04:08 AM
LAD's use of 'are' instead of 'our' annoys the shite out of me.
Our LADs in Crumlin Jail.
Are LADs in Crumlin Jail?
LAD used to be funny/interesting. Self important w**kers now
A lot of the stuff they post is pure rubbish, but they still provide an important role. They expose a lot of stuff that the mainstream media won't go near until they are forced too. The most recent case being Pastor McConnell.and the fall-out over it.
Indeed - they're doing the leg work for the local media. The Ivory Coast fleg issue as well - posted on LAD, next thing it's on the front of The Irish News.
Quote from: ziggysego on June 19, 2014, 11:21:13 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=260049020866723&set=vb.167750270096599&type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=260049020866723&set=vb.167750270096599&type=2&theater)
Sewer rats they really are the lowest form of human life
Quote from: Hardy on June 20, 2014, 12:55:10 AM
I've seen many things. I've seen this. My brain is processing this. Don't expect a result for some time.
Still on it ...
I see Seamy has a new tattoo
(http://i.imgur.com/myDrwL5.png)
"The Elementawy Wight Implanted in Evewy Man.......The Wight if you Awe Attacked to Defend Youwself"
Id say the tattoo artist had a quare giggle at thon
Seen some ropey tattoos in my time but that is definitely up there with the best.
I see that he is going to become a father as well ::) ::)
Well, half-wit though he is, he would know something about the elementary Right.
Why are the capital letters so arbitrary?
Well at least the words are spelt correctly which is a step up for him.
Do tattoo artists not have white ink?
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 11, 2014, 02:38:39 PM
I see Seamy has a new tattoo
(http://i.imgur.com/myDrwL5.png)
What a tool.
Wee f**ker on Nolan . . .
Getting nailed as well!!!!
He said he would stand by a democratic vote. So what about protesting over the fleg thing, despite it being a democratic vote?
I can see where he's going with that tattoo. When the closest you've come to a real job is the desk in a taxi depot you'll develop the mindset that thinks it's an expression of what you aspire to...the checkout in Tesco.
Quote from: billabong on September 11, 2014, 03:13:36 PM
I see that he is going to become a father as well ::) ::)
Still up for grabs on that score, wullie was taking care of her as well! ;)
Lucky lassie😍😍
Was itching for Seamie to drop the line about Nolan being gay last night but the wee f**ker never bit lol
Quote from: screenexile on October 28, 2015, 11:01:26 PM
Wee f**ker on Nolan . . .
Getting nailed as well!!!!
Yes but when he threatened to redden Nolan's face about his personal life Nolan soon shut up...the sooner he comes out the better
Quote from: illdecide on October 29, 2015, 08:39:35 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 28, 2015, 11:01:26 PM
Wee f**ker on Nolan . . .
Getting nailed as well!!!!
Yes but when he threatened to redden Nolan's face about his personal life Nolan soon shut up...the sooner he comes out the better
Theres an injunction in to stop anyone declaring it until his mother has passed I believe.
Who gives a f**k if Nolan is gay, wee Seamie could be his butch maybe!!! As fur his other secrets, I'd love to be a voyeur under the wall if that ever came out!!
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 29, 2015, 09:07:49 AM
Who gives a f**k if Nolan is gay
In the North, lots of people.
Ulster and Israel.. I just don't know anymore... I would take pity on Jamie's blind stupidity but people are being massacred.
Quote from: illdecide on October 29, 2015, 08:39:35 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 28, 2015, 11:01:26 PM
Wee f**ker on Nolan . . .
Getting nailed as well!!!!
Yes but when he threatened to redden Nolan's face about his personal life Nolan soon shut up...the sooner he comes out the better
Maybe but Wee Jamie can't go around advocating that Gay marriage is against the Bible and then write an open letter saying that he's had a child out of wedlock... Nolan was right to pull him and it was hypocrisy of the highest order.
f**king tube Bryson should have known better even if he is buck stupid!!
Quote from: MoChara on October 29, 2015, 08:33:59 AM
Was itching for Seamie to drop the line about Nolan being gay last night but the wee f**ker never bit lol
He was dropping heavy hints about it and thought he was going to.
Quote from: screenexile on October 29, 2015, 10:16:33 AM
Quote from: illdecide on October 29, 2015, 08:39:35 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 28, 2015, 11:01:26 PM
Wee f**ker on Nolan . . .
Getting nailed as well!!!!
Yes but when he threatened to redden Nolan's face about his personal life Nolan soon shut up...the sooner he comes out the better
Maybe but Wee Jamie can't go around advocating that Gay marriage is against the Bible and then write an open letter saying that he's had a child out of wedlock... Nolan was right to pull him and it was hypocrisy of the highest order.
f**king tube Bryson should have known better even if he is buck stupid!!
This is the bit that really gets me with these arguments. I'm not religious or overly into politics but they are talking about making gay marriage lawful, not making certain religions agree to it. Surely what's written in the bible shouldn't have anything to do with our laws, not everyone is of the same religion or of any religion at all in some cases.
I get that the bible gets some things right, not stealing but the bible says it's ok to have slaves elsewhere so surely it isn't something we should be using when making laws?
P.S. Agree that Nolan was right to pull him, he did write it in an open letter and he was being hypocritical.
Quote from: screenexile on October 29, 2015, 10:16:33 AM
Maybe but Wee Jamie can't go around advocating that Gay marriage is against the Bible and then write an open letter saying that he's had a child out of wedlock... Nolan was right to pull him and it was hypocrisy of the highest order.
f**king tube Bryson should have known better even if he is buck stupid!!
Watching the evangelical wing of American politics, which has roots in Ulster-Scots migrations, you can see a common thread between Jamie Bryson and the likes of Kim Davis. As long as you are One Of Us, no amount of hypocritical behaviour will ever be held against you.
I don't think too many call him one of their own though.
I really don't understand how or why this guy is in the public eye.
He's a f**king moron full of his own self importance. Acting as a de facto representative of the fleggers is the only reason I can see for the media obsession with him.
The main people who seem to give him press is the irish news. I wish they would stop. It's pretty reflective of where it is as a paper that it is doing that anyway.
Them and whoever from the inside fed him all that NAMA stuff.
Quote from: MoChara on October 29, 2015, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: illdecide on October 29, 2015, 08:39:35 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 28, 2015, 11:01:26 PM
Wee f**ker on Nolan . . .
Getting nailed as well!!!!
Yes but when he threatened to redden Nolan's face about his personal life Nolan soon shut up...the sooner he comes out the better
Theres an injunction in to stop anyone declaring it until his mother has passed I believe.
The injunction has got absolutely nothing to do with his sexuality or 'protecting' his mother.
Quote from: red hander on October 29, 2015, 06:44:23 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 29, 2015, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: illdecide on October 29, 2015, 08:39:35 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 28, 2015, 11:01:26 PM
Wee f**ker on Nolan . . .
Getting nailed as well!!!!
Yes but when he threatened to redden Nolan's face about his personal life Nolan soon shut up...the sooner he comes out the better
Theres an injunction in to stop anyone declaring it until his mother has passed I believe.
The injunction has got absolutely nothing to do with his sexuality or 'protecting' his mother.
Is it a mere injunction or a super-
injunct thingy which can't be mentioned, or anything about it mentioned?
Quote from: red hander on October 29, 2015, 06:44:23 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 29, 2015, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: illdecide on October 29, 2015, 08:39:35 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 28, 2015, 11:01:26 PM
Wee f**ker on Nolan . . .
Getting nailed as well!!!!
Yes but when he threatened to redden Nolan's face about his personal life Nolan soon shut up...the sooner he comes out the better
Theres an injunction in to stop anyone declaring it until his mother has passed I believe.
The injunction has got absolutely nothing to do with his sexuality or 'protecting' his mother.
Well in some ways it is, it all depends how you view it, it's all in the eye of the voyeur.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 29, 2015, 07:26:21 PM
Quote from: red hander on October 29, 2015, 06:44:23 PM
Quote from: MoChara on October 29, 2015, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: illdecide on October 29, 2015, 08:39:35 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 28, 2015, 11:01:26 PM
Wee f**ker on Nolan . . .
Getting nailed as well!!!!
Yes but when he threatened to redden Nolan's face about his personal life Nolan soon shut up...the sooner he comes out the better
Theres an injunction in to stop anyone declaring it until his mother has passed I believe.
The injunction has got absolutely nothing to do with his sexuality or 'protecting' his mother.
Well in some ways it is, it all depends how you view it, it's all in the eye of the voyeur.
Indeed ;D
Has this little p***k been arrested?? Could we finally be rid of him?
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 16, 2018, 07:32:08 PM
Has this little p***k been arrested?? Could we finally be rid of him?
Tell me this is true
It appears it's him who has been arrested after a PSNI raid in relation to UVF activity in E. Belfast/N. Down. He'll have his legal team i.e. him, on it asap.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 17, 2018, 01:20:19 AM
QuoteWoyalist blogger Jwamie Bwyson awested by powice
The loyalist blogger Jamie Bryson has claimed he was the man arrested and later released by the PSNI on Thursday.
The PSNI said the arrest was connected to an investigation into criminality linked to the UVF in east Belfast.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45213991
An yet that fat mess Nolan gives him air time!!
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 17, 2018, 01:20:19 AM
QuoteWoyalist blogger Jwamie Bwyson awested by powice
The loyalist blogger Jamie Bryson has claimed he was the man arrested and later released by the PSNI on Thursday.
The PSNI said the arrest was connected to an investigation into criminality linked to the UVF in east Belfast.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45213991
"They said the 28-year-old man, arrested in north Down, was being questioned on suspicion of unlawfully supplying door staff following searches in Bangor, Donaghadee and Newtownards."
Supplying door staff, what does that even mean?
Here, put this dodgy bouncer on the payroll???
Quote from: johnnycool on August 17, 2018, 08:43:29 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 17, 2018, 01:20:19 AM
QuoteWoyalist blogger Jwamie Bwyson awested by powice
The loyalist blogger Jamie Bryson has claimed he was the man arrested and later released by the PSNI on Thursday.
The PSNI said the arrest was connected to an investigation into criminality linked to the UVF in east Belfast.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45213991
"They said the 28-year-old man, arrested in north Down, was being questioned on suspicion of unlawfully supplying door staff following searches in Bangor, Donaghadee and Newtownards."
Supplying door staff, what does that even mean?
Here, put this dodgy bouncer on the payroll???
Basically - Some paramilitary 'owned' clubs in the city using members as bouncers, Racketeering basically..
Aye, all door staff are supposed to be officially trained and licensed these days. Can't imagine too many of Jamie's gorilla friends have been through the process.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 17, 2018, 08:29:06 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 17, 2018, 01:20:19 AM
QuoteWoyalist blogger Jwamie Bwyson awested by powice
The loyalist blogger Jamie Bryson has claimed he was the man arrested and later released by the PSNI on Thursday.
The PSNI said the arrest was connected to an investigation into criminality linked to the UVF in east Belfast.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45213991
An yet that fat mess Nolan gives him air time!!
And that utter cnut Kate Hoey is up his hole. Wonder will the little scrote launch another 2-hour hunger strike if he's done
I see the (normally sensible) Doug Beattie has said he'd "like to know what's going on"
Since when did MLAs have any jurisdiction in relation to ongoing police investigations?
'War hero' Doug's 'Oh I'm so moderate' mask slips ... he'd sicken your shite
Doug is a p***k
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 09:16:38 PM
So, what exactly was the story here?
It appears very strange.
Jamie thinks he was arrested under false pretences so he's lodged a complaint with the Ombudsman. He's been accused of being part of a company that supplies non registered/unqualified doormen as a front for the East Belfast UVF but was released without charge even though they seized his laptop and phones etc.
He claims they were seized illegally because he has journalistic priveliges so now there's a row with the NUJ members as to whether he should get their support or not.
I hope the police have something on him otherwise this will be embarrassing as f**k for them and the last thing we need is that wee p***k being right about anything and given some credibility!!