Brexit.

[seafoid]

He did but in a nice soft spoken Cork way.
I presume Poland is still a net beneficiary of EU funds.

the brits have been trying to separate individual countries from the EU herd in order to wangle some movement on the backstop
but Barnier is very solid

Diarmuid Ferriter

" Much of the commentary in the UK still fails to understand our motivation in seeking to avoid a hard border on this island – the welfare of those living in the North, and the maintenance of peace on the island. "

And even beyond that as Fintan O'Toole expressed well on Clare Byrne, Brexit without a backstop will devastate the agricultural industry in Ireland, as how could you stop a lorry load of hormone injected beef from entering at Larne and then crossing the border thereby introducing lower and questionable standards into the Irish market and putting our own sizable beef exports at risk. I see the EU commission have just come out and said there will be a hard border in the event of a hard brexit. Of course, there will. And there will be a hard border in a Brexit without the backstop. And really the Brits or DUP do not care about the economic consequences for Ireland.

This is really good
But they won't be the ones enforcing it will be their cry. The DUP will be loving this outbreak.

Yes but hard brexit with any sort of border and its game over for NI in the UK according to actual recent polls and not the flawed crap the DUP seem to want to believe. The DUP are playing high stakes poker with a pair of 2's against a full house and are not even bluffing.  At least if they folded they would save some dignity but nope its all in for Arlene and co.

This is really good

Hard Border with Stephen Rea

https://youtu.be/8cZe2ihEZO8

[dec]

While EU diplomats have avoided discussing the subject, many privately admit the EU would have no choice but to require Ireland to enforce checks on trade to protect the common border of the single market.Mr Varadkar's spokesman said on Tuesday that retaining an open border "would require very difficult discussions with our EU partners". Working out suitable customs and trade arrangements compatible with our EU membership will require detailed discussion with the commission, while the UK will also need to live up to its responsibilities.

There are really two borders to consider. 1) UK restrictions on people and goods crossing in to the north and 2) EU/Irish restrictions on people and goods crossing in to the south.

Despite our desire to blame the Brits for everything, at least some of the "hard border" will come in to being because of the EU.

[armaghniac]

There are really two borders to consider. 1) UK restrictions on people and goods crossing in to the north and 2) EU/Irish restrictions on people and goods crossing in to the south.

Despite our desire to blame the Brits for everything, at least some of the "hard border" will come in to being because of the EU.

Not so, the Brits are making the change from a working arrangement, the EU has only worked to eliminate borders, it is not responsible for this.

[Hardy]

I see the FT is already stockpiling paragraphs in anticipation of no-deal shortages.

[johnnycool]

There are really two borders to consider. 1) UK restrictions on people and goods crossing in to the north and 2) EU/Irish restrictions on people and goods crossing in to the south.

Despite our desire to blame the Brits for everything, at least some of the "hard border" will come in to being because of the EU.

Not so, the Brits are making the change from a working arrangement, the EU has only worked to eliminate borders, it is not responsible for this.

Irrespective of who is responsible if there's a no deal Brexit the EU will insist on a border of sorts to prevent inferior goods flooding the EU common market from UK(NI).

At the same time the Brexiteers have always wanted to control immigration so you'd expect them to have some checks there as well.
Don't know enough about the WTO arrangements to know if they could insist on the UK controlling the very same border.

[seafoid]

While EU diplomats have avoided discussing the subject, many privately admit the EU would have no choice but to require Ireland to enforce checks on trade to protect the common border of the single market.Mr Varadkar's spokesman said on Tuesday that retaining an open border "would require very difficult discussions with our EU partners". Working out suitable customs and trade arrangements compatible with our EU membership will require detailed discussion with the commission, while the UK will also need to live up to its responsibilities.

There are really two borders to consider. 1) UK restrictions on people and goods crossing in to the north and 2) EU/Irish restrictions on people and goods crossing in to the south.

Despite our desire to blame the Brits for everything, at least some of the "hard border" will come in to being because of the EU.

I don't agree.
May's red line means she ruled out the customs union

the headbangers are blackmailing May. they will only support her if she retains No deal as an option
This is an internal tory Party clusterfuck

[armaghniac]

Irrespective of who is responsible if there's a no deal Brexit the EU will insist on a border of sorts to prevent inferior goods flooding the EU common market from UK(NI).

At the same time the Brexiteers have always wanted to control immigration so you'd expect them to have some checks there as well.
Don't know enough about the WTO arrangements to know if they could insist on the UK controlling the very same border.

The WTO require the same checks at Aughnacloy as Dover, otherwise French goods would be disadvantaged compared to Irish ones.
I wouldn't worry about immigration, those checks will take place airports and ports. You could make some effort to spot HGVs on the border, but not people.

[north_antrim_hound]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/dyson-headquarters-brexit-uk-singapore-hq-move-hoover-vacuum-a8740996.html%3famp

The Rats that backed Brexit are jumping of the ship

[armaghniac]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/dyson-headquarters-brexit-uk-singapore-hq-move-hoover-vacuum-a8740996.html%3famp

The Rats that backed Brexit are jumping of the ship

Dyson 2016: Let's leave, Britain!
Dyson 2019: Let's leave Britain!

[screenexile]

Looking more and more like something will be agreed . . . certainly the market thinks so with the sterling improving a lot in the last week.

Can they put some kind of time limit on the back stop that will allow the deal to squeak through??!

[haranguerer]

Looking more and more like something will be agreed . . . certainly the market thinks so with the sterling improving a lot in the last week.

Can they put some kind of time limit on the back stop that will allow the deal to squeak through??!

What??! that polish gombeen was put up to that by the brits, you'd be better not passing heed. As was said, a time limited backstop isn't a backstop, this will not be happening 

[Rudi]

Irish will be asked to erect hard border by EU. Irish will bend over yet again and erect border.

[haranguerer]

If theres no deal they'll have no choice. Its still a border caused by brexit, ie by the british, no matter who is forced to maintain it.

[Rudi]

Is that not contrary to the Bi lateral good Friday agreement.  How will the rule of law go there?

[north_antrim_hound]

Irish will be asked to erect hard border by EU. Irish will bend over yet again and erect border.

Is that not in breach of the GFA. Read somewhere that May is looking to tweak the GFA in order to accommodate a no back stop deal can she do that. Regardless if a hard border comes this place is economically  fu.cked. The DUP gets their way