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This site is making the over projection of a Derry v Armagh final. I rather literally take it one game at a time, this Saturday could see us out on our ass very handy,

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I've been saying all along, Donegal could knock us out in the first round.
I'd love to see us win another Ulster - but if we get beaten on Saturday it wouldn't be a huge shock.
Donegal were in the final 2 years ago and we just beat them.

Couldn't agree more. A 1 or 2 point win for Donegal in a very physical / defensive game wouldn't be a huge surprise

From Kieran taking over until the past 2 years Armagh struggled for years to get a win or two in the Ulster championship and that has been the most disappointing thing for me.  Not being able to beat teams they could/should have been beating over 6 or 7 years.  That's not all down to lack of underage success.  We have though improved markedly in terms of conditioning and tightened up a good bit at the back. Seem better organised these past 2 years but the question is still very much out on whether they can take the next step, i.e. get through tight games and win something or get further than a quarter final.

Not being disrespectful, but 2 very lop sided draws in '23 and' 24 surely helped?

Is it really? Most counties have goals at the start of the year, get promoted, avoid relegation, beat neighbours etc. do they really need a coping mechanism of devaluing competitions, I seriously doubt it.  There are about 26 counties under the new system never going win Sam, Derry don't need another Ulster but will probably win it, any other county would relish it.

I believe JoG2 was referring the fans attempting to devalue a competition as a defense mechanism for if they don't win it. Armagh will have failed this year (again) if they do not win Ulster. How anyone can think different is beyond me.

What if they lose Ulster but play in an All Ireland final. Is that a bigger failure than winning Ulster and then going out in the groups?

You're changing angles here. What is having a good year, which reaching an AI final for most teams is, got to do with questioning the value of the Anglo Celt cup which you did? A hypothetical appearance in an AI final shouldn't come into the equation.
You're Armagh yes, very surprising considering the last 15+ years winning nothing. Derry winning 2 years ago was incredible, winning back to back was, well incredible. The thought of winning a treble, well that's the stuff of dreams. Worry about any attack on a Sam after.

Armagh have shown glimpses of the 2022 championship form this year but I'd still be worried that they will slip back into last years negative mindset when faced with better opposition. The same thing happened in the League final again when the stakes were heightened and the fear of losing took over. 

The Ulster final, should we get there, could well be the defining game of the season because they won't be winning an All Ireland title. For a lot of those players it's probably the last chance saloon to try and win meaningful silverware.

Is it meaningful silverware?

It definitely is, anybody who says otherwise is deluding themselves.

Devalue everything except the one cup that's pretty much unattainable for most counties in a given year, it's a coping mechanism to avoid disappointment

Armagh have shown glimpses of the 2022 championship form this year but I'd still be worried that they will slip back into last years negative mindset when faced with better opposition. The same thing happened in the League final again when the stakes were heightened and the fear of losing took over. 

The Ulster final, should we get there, could well be the defining game of the season because they won't be winning an All Ireland title. For a lot of those players it's probably the last chance saloon to try and win meaningful silverware.

Is it meaningful silverware?

No, neither is the league, Sam is the only show in town!! 

how many counties would a train station in clones benefit?

Armagh, hoor's only have trains to Belfast and the rest of the place connecting via Dublin the critters

Has there been a bit of a sea change in general opinion? Seems to be a bit of common sense entering the debates - previously dismissed or shut down debates  imo.

The average person has common sense with these freaks. But they get called out for it so are afraid to say much.

I certainly don't view trans people as freaks. Trans rights shouldn't trump womens' rights tho (& their right to feel safe in women only areas), that seemed to be the road it was hurtling down for a long time. A section of the trans movement appear to not want to assimilate into society either. I don't care if they want to assimilate or not but I don't think society should have to put up with some of their outrageous nonsense either. They should have equality in society, they should also respect others in society.

I think this is the case. Most people would have issues with the some of the proposals put forward by the trans movement. But equally most would refrain from calling them freaks. There's people from both sides on this board and all levels in between.

Exactly, and if it was hurtling down a road it was because certain parts of the media were pushing that agenda #bogeymen

Not as nice as the current 'brown' away kit. 

Think we have a new winner, 'vomit grey'.. Deserved a 10-0 drubbing today

What are the dates for Ulster semi finals?poor show from down against a antrim team with serious injury list.

27th / 28th

Here - https://youtu.be/uKTICK54tMQ?feature=shared

Ok fair enough. Though I agree with him bout Harte... Tally as bad going to Kerry. Is why Cody didn't shake hands with Shefflin, trying to plot the downfall of his own county...

What do you agree with him about re Harte?

That there are enough good Derry men with that tradition without lining Hartes pockets... a cartel of managers doing the rounds... sure you know what he said.

Is it just the fact it's Harte and it's Derry that's really galling ? You're from Tyrone, big chance a Derry man or two has been at your club. The players, who are the most important part of all this, wanted Harte / Devlin.
Bottom line is Brolly doesn't like Harte, so with his platform, as he does with anyone he doesn't like, he let's the world know continuously. Calling a 70 something GAA coach a cnut or whatever isn't the behaviour of a mature adult. Don't buy the bullshit it's because he's an outside manager, Brolly was, by his own admission instrumental in bringing Mullans in in the 90s, the mans a walking contradiction, partly truth and partly fiction.

Kristoffersen? Is don't care who managed what team, is totally against the ethos of the GAA £££... but to go to your biggest rivals.. nah..

Emotion more than principle, not a kick in the arse of Joe's position

Here - https://youtu.be/uKTICK54tMQ?feature=shared

Ok fair enough. Though I agree with him bout Harte... Tally as bad going to Kerry. Is why Cody didn't shake hands with Shefflin, trying to plot the downfall of his own county...

What do you agree with him about re Harte?

That there are enough good Derry men with that tradition without lining Hartes pockets... a cartel of managers doing the rounds... sure you know what he said.

Which Derry manager/s do you have in mind?

That's for Derry to sort out, great GAA county it is... can't find a manager 🤷 plenty doing the rounds

But you can't name one.
 

Barry Dillon.. Conleith Gilligan... Johnny McBride

A Sigerson in 10 years isn't much of a CV for this current Derry team. Conleith for the future. Johnny, no

Here - https://youtu.be/uKTICK54tMQ?feature=shared

Ok fair enough. Though I agree with him bout Harte... Tally as bad going to Kerry. Is why Cody didn't shake hands with Shefflin, trying to plot the downfall of his own county...

What do you agree with him about re Harte?

That there are enough good Derry men with that tradition without lining Hartes pockets... a cartel of managers doing the rounds... sure you know what he said.

Is it just the fact it's Harte and it's Derry that's really galling ? You're from Tyrone, big chance a Derry man or two has been at your club. The players, who are the most important part of all this, wanted Harte / Devlin.
Bottom line is Brolly doesn't like Harte, so with his platform, as he does with anyone he doesn't like, he let's the world know continuously. Calling a 70 something GAA coach a cnut or whatever isn't the behaviour of a mature adult. Don't buy the bullshit it's because he's an outside manager, Brolly was, by his own admission instrumental in bringing Mullans in in the 90s, the mans a walking contradiction, partly truth and partly fiction.

Here - https://youtu.be/uKTICK54tMQ?feature=shared

Ok fair enough. Though I agree with him bout Harte... Tally as bad going to Kerry. Is why Cody didn't shake hands with Shefflin, trying to plot the downfall of his own county...

What do you agree with him about re Harte?

[The Mickey Harte thing is just the latest thing]

Latest podcast was a bit ott in terms of GAA exceptionalism, GAA has its share of fraud, spivs, spoofers, and wrong'uns - Joe's experience seems akin to Tom Cruise involvement in Scientology

And why so much hate for Micky Harte - referred to as 'that man' in the latest episode, a bit much

I used to find Brolly really interesting, he actually seems to be becoming slightly unhinged.

I can easily see him totally ostracised in the media world and an Ewan MacKenna type character in a few years

His podcasts are very good and popular albeit he is prone to tall tales. A far cry from Ewan McKenna.

Don't know an awful lot about McKenna or his background, but Brolly and him share a similar narcissistic trait, it's all about them and being the centre of attention even if that is offending people.

The Harte thing is Joe being Joe, saying something controversial so that he is "trending" on social media, there must be an adrenaline hit in it for people wired like Joe.

That's exactly  right.  As Oscar Wilde Said , "there's only one thing worse than being talked about , and that's not being talked about".

Brolly  has to be in the  limelight, regardless  of who suffers or who he insults.  He just needs to be centre of attention .  The Mickey Harte thing is just the latest  thing

It's fairly tiresome at this point. I see he will now not let his entrenched hatred towards Mickey Harte stop him attending games. He loves this Derry team now that they're going somewhere, the same group who told him to run on when he tried to enter the Clones changing rooms and bask in their glory after we beat Donegal 2 years ago.

You got your ticket for the All Ireland Final yet?

Quality comeback (clapping emoji)