If they were all amalgamated, would the GAA not immediately be accused of not knowing what's best for the ladies game(s)?
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My boss went to pick up his all electric Audi. Dealer told him hydrogen will be ushered in quicker that people think. Replacing electric cars. (Ain't gonna be tomorrow but food for thought)
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I've always been confused why the Russian air force didn't make a bigger impact in Ukraine.
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They were saying on the news last night that the shape of Titan compared to other submersibles could have been a design flaw as the pressure wouldn't have been distributed around it evenly.
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What happens a body exposed to that pressure so quickly. Would there be anything left of them? Terrible tragedy but in one way a better way to go than waiting for days for the end.
Quote from: High Fielder on May 19, 2023, 03:41:53 PMI was shocked to read that Joe Brolly was planning to boycott the Ulster Final if RG was there. Isn't or wasn't he a barrister? I'm sure he's had to defend some unsavoury characters
Quote from: David McKeown on May 18, 2023, 07:37:08 PMQuote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 18, 2023, 05:14:05 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 17, 2023, 11:14:28 PM
Very surprised with your take on this.
My take is fairly simple. NG has been badly failed by social services and her legal representation* - not the Derry county board.
Some of the expectations on the Derry CB "investigations" of matters in this thread are wholly ludicrous.
*my natural dislike of the legal system is also probably shining through; barristers are quick enough to rake all other professions over the coals in court inquests with the benefit of hindsight and an assumption of infinite resources - so IMO what is good for the goose - how the f**k are family law practitioners not expected to identify the signs of an raise concerns with the investigating authorities in divorce/child custody cases? If there are already such expectations, will there be any action taken against NG's representatives?
**teachers are educators, yet are expected to pick up on and raise child abuse concerns.
Probably should jump in here and defend my colleagues. Not only is that a vast generalisation it also displays an ignorance of the legal system. Mistakes can and do happen and on that basis I have been very keen not to make any comment on this case because I wasn't involved. There are important general things that have to be remembered though.
Firstly and most importantly family courts are private and therefore it is impossible to know what was and what was not raised in any case but if allegations are made of a violent or sexual nature the court must conduct what is called a Re L hearing. That is a hearing to determine the truth of any allegation. That is done to the civil standard which is much lower than the criminal standard and involves a detailed and thorough investigation.
Social services will be involved and will investigate. They are notoriously conservative and will take very seriously any allegations of domestic abuse. Guardian Ad Litems will be appointed, they are specifically trained to speak to any children involved and to rely the views of those children through separate lawyers appointed by the Guardians.
Grandparents or other family members are also often separately represented.
The court will hear evidence and come to a conclusion. The test for them is not whether one parent is more suitable than the other its to determine whether either parent is suitable. These cases are usually protracted and are very thorough.
The point I am making is that we have no idea what happened in this family case and its therefore very unfair to criticise or worse lambast the whole professional
Quote from: trailer on May 18, 2023, 01:59:44 PM
Correct. And the cost is irrelevant. Who cares if it costs 500m? The money will only be spunked on something else.
Quote from: Itchy on May 17, 2023, 11:14:28 PM
Very surprised with your take on this.
Quote from: seafoid on May 16, 2023, 08:38:33 PMQuote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 16, 2023, 01:47:59 PMWhy don't you research coercive control?
Exactly.
The competent authorities are the ones who should be doing the investigating and prosecuting if appropriate. Not a volunteer board whose skillset is no more applicable to the problem than landing a man on the moon.
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Another question that is in my mind - why did (seemingly) none of this come out when custody of the children was up? Not casting doubt on the allegations, more on how did the combination of authorities/legal representation allow things to string along this far? Did NG receive extremely bad advice during the custody proceedings?
If the allegations are true, which inferring from a lack of strong denial from RG they would appear to have substance, then the systematic failure needs examined and rectified.
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on May 16, 2023, 02:03:33 PM
It would but that is a not going to be a runner and let's not get into that argument again. If it's a green field site you are after instead of Clones then the Maze site isn't it.
Quote from: smelmoth on May 16, 2023, 01:40:18 PM
And not one of those posts by me even mention a criminal investigation.
Quote from: johnnycool on May 16, 2023, 09:54:10 AMQuote from: smelmoth on May 16, 2023, 09:38:04 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2023, 09:33:12 AMQuote from: smelmoth on May 16, 2023, 09:27:10 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2023, 07:46:17 AM
So anyone can email a county board with an allegation and they must stand down the manager?
Who has actually said that?
It's not so much as said that, but people have done it and it works. The case here in question I'm totally behind Mrs Gallagher my point is that anyone can send an email or go on to social media and make claims about someone.
Would you be happy if you had allegations (true or false) made public via social media that would have wider implications on your kids and job and that would have even more implications on caring for your children should you lose your job over it?
The courts are there for a reason, to settle these issues. Court by social media though seems to be the way of the world.
Nobody is saying the courts should not do their job but right back at the beginning of this the "suspended pending investigation" route was explained and what steps you would need to take before suspending the individual.
Derry had their own decision to make and steps to take. All of which have already been set out.
Put yourself in Derry CB's position if they did get that email from Nicola's dad.
Your response would be that due to the seriousness of the allegations that he should go to the police with them.
In the meantime you'd have a duty of care to all to face Rory with what you've been informed about and as we've seen from his release, he probably told them (or would have told them) that these claims have been "dealt with" during the custody case and he's been cleared and now has custody of the children.
What do Derry CB do next?
They really can't be ignoring an email of that type all the same, that's really bad if they did.