HOW WOULD YOU VOTE IN A BORDER POLL?

Started by RedHand88, March 20, 2021, 02:56:58 PM

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Would you back unity if a border poll was held tomorrow?

Yes (Northerner)
No (Northerner)
Yes (Southener)
No (Southener)

Angelo

Quote from: seafoid on March 21, 2021, 08:13:38 AM
It should be done in stages with Fermanagh rejoining first  because Fermanagh had voted allegiance to Dáil Éireann pre 1921.

Throne would be next , then Derry, followed by Armagh
Maybe Down could be digested in stages.

And Antrim, with Larne at the end.

Rejoining?

This isn't about rejoining.

This is about a new and free United Ireland.

There seems to be this arrogance from free staters that they are letting us in for some reason.
GAA FUNDING CHEATS CHEAT US ALL

snoopdog

Any party rushing a referendum is on a road to failure.  I think 20 years is realistic and discussions should begin on a blueprint on what a new ireland would look like. It is always going to hit people in the pocket. But health service is the big one.

Tubberman

I think each nordie should have to apply to join individually.
Weed out the trouble makers.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Louther

Quote from: Angelo on March 21, 2021, 08:16:56 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 21, 2021, 08:13:38 AM
It should be done in stages with Fermanagh rejoining first  because Fermanagh had voted allegiance to Dáil Éireann pre 1921.

Throne would be next , then Derry, followed by Armagh
Maybe Down could be digested in stages.

And Antrim, with Larne at the end.

Rejoining?

This isn't about rejoining.

This is about a new and free United Ireland.

There seems to be this arrogance from free staters that they are letting us in for some reason.

I'm sure if you get a platform to speak on the subject like the above it will be a done deal.

ned

Quote from: Angelo on March 21, 2021, 08:16:56 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 21, 2021, 08:13:38 AM
It should be done in stages with Fermanagh rejoining first  because Fermanagh had voted allegiance to Dáil Éireann pre 1921.

Throne would be next , then Derry, followed by Armagh
Maybe Down could be digested in stages.

And Antrim, with Larne at the end.

Rejoining?

This isn't about rejoining.

This is about a new and free United Ireland.

There seems to be this arrogance from free staters that they are letting us in for some reason.

A new and free UI is all well and good but I'm all for Larne and it's environs remaining a British enclave like Gibraltar.  Otherwise all bets are off.

Rossfan

Excellent idea Ned.
Sammy Wilson could be their Chief Minister😃.
As regards "free staters(sic)" letting "Nordies" in....
Of course that will be the case as we have to vote on it too.
The new AI entity won't be a 1 party SF dictatorship as envisaged by some.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

charlieTully

Quote from: seafoid on March 21, 2021, 08:13:38 AM
It should be done in stages with Fermanagh rejoining first  because Fermanagh had voted allegiance to Dáil Éireann pre 1921.

Throne would be next , then Derry, followed by Armagh
Maybe Down could be digested in stages.

And Antrim, with Larne at the end.

Right seafoid that's you banned from county down. 😒

clonadmad

Quote from: Angelo on March 21, 2021, 08:16:56 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 21, 2021, 08:13:38 AM
It should be done in stages with Fermanagh rejoining first  because Fermanagh had voted allegiance to Dáil Éireann pre 1921.

Throne would be next , then Derry, followed by Armagh
Maybe Down could be digested in stages.

And Antrim, with Larne at the end.

Rejoining?

This isn't about rejoining.

This is about a new and free United Ireland.

There seems to be this arrogance from free staters that they are letting us in for some reason.

You seemed to have missed the bit where we have a vote to decide if we actually want ye

If we do

There will have be a holding pen for your ilk on the border followed by a re education camp to introduce you to gainful employment and not the notion of a socialist ie Handout Republic .

dublin7

Quote from: Rossfan on March 21, 2021, 11:07:56 AM
Excellent idea Ned.
Sammy Wilson could be their Chief Minister😃.
As regards "free staters(sic)" letting "Nordies" in....
Of course that will be the case as we have to vote on it too.
The new AI entity won't be a 1 party SF dictatorship as envisaged by some.

SF are the self proclaimed only party interested in a united Ireland. Once hat's achieved I assume they'll disband.

That's a great reason to vote for a united Ireland on it's own

Angelo

Quote from: clonadmad on March 21, 2021, 11:18:12 AM
Quote from: Angelo on March 21, 2021, 08:16:56 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 21, 2021, 08:13:38 AM
It should be done in stages with Fermanagh rejoining first  because Fermanagh had voted allegiance to Dáil Éireann pre 1921.

Throne would be next , then Derry, followed by Armagh
Maybe Down could be digested in stages.

And Antrim, with Larne at the end.

Rejoining?

This isn't about rejoining.

This is about a new and free United Ireland.

There seems to be this arrogance from free staters that they are letting us in for some reason.

You seemed to have missed the bit where we have a vote to decide if we actually want ye

If we do

There will have be a holding pen for your ilk on the border followed by a re education camp to introduce you to gainful employment and not the notion of a socialist ie Handout Republic .

No.

The problem with Free Staters like yourself is that you seem to be under the illusion that ye are going to be housing northerners.

It's about a the cessation of two failed statelets, one denigrated by sectarianism and oppression, the other by political corruption and private business interests.

Your comments say it all, you have utter contempt for nothern nationalists but this is going to happen in spite of how much you resist. The days of a FFG dominated FS are numbered, they have destroyed future generations of young people and they won't vote for those parties any more. Putting the bankers, Larry Goodman, Denis O'Brien and the property developers ahead of the citizen has brought it to this endgame.

It's the DUP/FF/FG who are actually accelerating this inevitability despite the fact none of these parties wanting it.
GAA FUNDING CHEATS CHEAT US ALL

Angelo

Quote from: dublin7 on March 21, 2021, 11:37:21 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 21, 2021, 11:07:56 AM
Excellent idea Ned.
Sammy Wilson could be their Chief Minister😃.
As regards "free staters(sic)" letting "Nordies" in....
Of course that will be the case as we have to vote on it too.
The new AI entity won't be a 1 party SF dictatorship as envisaged by some.

SF are the self proclaimed only party interested in a united Ireland. Once hat's achieved I assume they'll disband.

That's a great reason to vote for a united Ireland on it's own

They will have delivered their mandate if they have delivered a United Ireland.

It's important then for the 32 to move to a more leftist society. Not where FFG can service wealthy billionaires at the detriment of its citizens.
GAA FUNDING CHEATS CHEAT US ALL

Armagh18

Quote from: snoopdog on March 20, 2021, 05:31:34 PM
My view on a border poll is quite simplistic really. If any man or woman who currently calls themselves Irish votes against a united Ireland then are they really Irish?? Not in my book.
I've lived in the south long enough to know that most southerners dont really care about the north.
Nail on head. If you're voting no you are not Irish.

Tubberman

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 21, 2021, 12:24:12 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on March 20, 2021, 05:31:34 PM
My view on a border poll is quite simplistic really. If any man or woman who currently calls themselves Irish votes against a united Ireland then are they really Irish?? Not in my book.
I've lived in the south long enough to know that most southerners dont really care about the north.
Nail on head. If you're voting no you are not Irish.

What are you?
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

clonadmad

Quote from: Angelo on March 21, 2021, 11:43:37 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on March 21, 2021, 11:18:12 AM
Quote from: Angelo on March 21, 2021, 08:16:56 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 21, 2021, 08:13:38 AM
It should be done in stages with Fermanagh rejoining first  because Fermanagh had voted allegiance to Dáil Éireann pre 1921.

Throne would be next , then Derry, followed by Armagh
Maybe Down could be digested in stages.

And Antrim, with Larne at the end.

Rejoining?

This isn't about rejoining.

This is about a new and free United Ireland.

There seems to be this arrogance from free staters that they are letting us in for some reason.

You seemed to have missed the bit where we have a vote to decide if we actually want ye

If we do

There will have be a holding pen for your ilk on the border followed by a re education camp to introduce you to gainful employment and not the notion of a socialist ie Handout Republic .

No.

The problem with Free Staters like yourself is that you seem to be under the illusion that ye are going to be housing northerners.

It's about a the cessation of two failed statelets, one denigrated by sectarianism and oppression, the other by political corruption and private business interests.

Your comments say it all, you have utter contempt for nothern nationalists but this is going to happen in spite of how much you resist. The days of a FFG dominated FS are numbered, they have destroyed future generations of young people and they won't vote for those parties any more. Putting the bankers, Larry Goodman, Denis O'Brien and the property developers ahead of the citizen has brought it to this endgame.

It's the DUP/FF/FG who are actually accelerating this inevitability despite the fact none of these parties wanting it.


Socialism is great till you run out of others peoples money

I've contempt for no one on here bar you.

Actually a SF led government in the Republic would soften their cough when they  have to implement the Austerity that's coming down the tracks 


Rossfan

In any All Ireland set up the State will be run by those elected by the voters.
That will rule out loonylefties being in any kind of power.
If Sinn Féin still exist then they will be a Centrist catch all populist party. They're already heading that way with their 2 abortion positions, not to mention their everything free but cut taxes too.
Calling the 26Cos a "failed statelet(sic)" is the language of the 1950s and is now only used by brainwashed eejits.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM