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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #3600 on: December 06, 2017, 04:31:50 PM »
The DUP made the wrong call. Blaming LV is pathetic.
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« Reply #3601 on: December 06, 2017, 04:33:47 PM »
Back in 1998 Liz O'Donnell,  Junior Minister, Dublin 4 type PD, was involved in the talks then. Beforehand she was all blather about being nice to Unionists etc.
She changed her tune after a few dealings with them (and that was the UUP).
Good to see Leo learning a bit about the North Eastern parts of his own Country though.

He knows how to deal with intolerant feckers. An openly gay Irish nationalist Taoiseach out-manueuring them and tying the north to the south irreversibly is the stuff of nightmares for the DUP.

The post gym photo in the salmon Under Armour Vest would have absolutely horrified Arlene and Nigel.

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« Reply #3602 on: December 06, 2017, 04:35:16 PM »
Total fantasy.If a border on island of Ireland is a trade barrier so is one in the Irish Sea.
Are you deliberately refusing to understand???

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #3603 on: December 06, 2017, 04:36:08 PM »
Back in 1998 Liz O'Donnell,  Junior Minister, Dublin 4 type PD, was involved in the talks then. Beforehand she was all blather about being nice to Unionists etc.
She changed her tune after a few dealings with them (and that was the UUP).
Good to see Leo learning a bit about the North Eastern parts of his own Country though.

He knows how to deal with intolerant feckers. An openly gay Irish nationalist Taoiseach out-manueuring them and tying the north to the south irreversibly is the stuff of nightmares for the DUP.

The post gym photo in the salmon Under Armour Vest would have absolutely horrified Arlene and Nigel.

Jeffrey's wee heart may have skipped a beat though!!

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #3604 on: December 06, 2017, 04:36:14 PM »
Faisal Islam(@faisalislam)

DUP’s Paisley is now quoting the 4% GDP hit to the RoI economy as detailed in its own impact assessments of No Deal...
Note: there are no UK equivalents from which to quote


If 4%:roi could be 8% NI.  Paisley Óg is a moron
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« Reply #3605 on: December 06, 2017, 04:42:01 PM »


I don't know what news story you've been following to hold such an out there opinion but forcing the entire UK to stay in the the single market by holding firm on the border issue would be a far better outcome for Ireland than what was on offer on Monday.

This is a win-win scenario for Ireland and the government has played their hand very well so far.

Forcing the UK? Are you in this new Communications Unit?
They weren't even at the negotiations. They didn't force anything.
The UK and the EU fooled us into thinking the border was a major issue and used that to pacify both side of Brexit within the UK.

May pushed the DUP forward while at the same time Junker pushed Varadkar forward.
Both were played, though it remains to be seen how much either knew about it. Seems the DUP were well prepared for the leak while Varadkar wasn't.

Two sides set up against the red herring border issue.
One will be happy they can climb down and save face on their hard Brexit approach and the other powerless as just realizing it now.

I think you are giving the British way too much credit. Their approach has been more Basil Fawlty than anything. No doubt Ireland are in the waters with sharks, between the EU and the UK. If it wasn't all so serious, there's a certain amusement in the DUP making Ireland out to be the most vicious shark of the lot.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #3606 on: December 06, 2017, 04:42:36 PM »
Adam Fleming(@adamfleming)

President Juncker wants to support Mrs May to avoid the collapse of her government. (2)
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #3607 on: December 06, 2017, 04:53:35 PM »
Back in 1998 Liz O'Donnell,  Junior Minister, Dublin 4 type PD, was involved in the talks then. Beforehand she was all blather about being nice to Unionists etc.
She changed her tune after a few dealings with them (and that was the UUP).
Good to see Leo learning a bit about the North Eastern parts of his own Country though.

He knows how to deal with intolerant feckers. An openly gay Irish nationalist Taoiseach out-manueuring them and tying the north to the south irreversibly is the stuff of nightmares for the DUP.

The post gym photo in the salmon Under Armour Vest would have absolutely horrified Arlene and Nigel.

Jeffrey's wee heart may have skipped a beat though!!

I LOL'd at that. Good job Paul Berry is long gone from the DUP.

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #3608 on: December 06, 2017, 04:59:12 PM »
Adam Fleming(@adamfleming)

President Juncker wants to support Mrs May to avoid the collapse of her government. (2)

May’s government collapsing would probably be the best result for all. Corbyn wouldn’t have this hand-wringing about a soft Brexit and the DUP would have to take their medicine. Indeed stopping the whole exit totally would be on the table then. I doubt the EU would really be all that bothered at this stage as it must feel like negotiating with a dementia patient.

It’s hard to see this Tory government surviving the entire Brexit process anyways when even a simple border deal is eluding them.
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #3609 on: December 06, 2017, 05:03:23 PM »
SDLP rally for Europe at Belfast City Hall tonight 6pm. No regulatory convergence, you either attend the rally or join the adjacent Burger queue at the Christmas Market.You cannot do both.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2017, 05:17:47 PM by T Fearon »

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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #3610 on: December 06, 2017, 05:24:01 PM »
Back in 1998 Liz O'Donnell,  Junior Minister, Dublin 4 type PD, was involved in the talks then. Beforehand she was all blather about being nice to Unionists etc.
She changed her tune after a few dealings with them (and that was the UUP).
Good to see Leo learning a bit about the North Eastern parts of his own Country though.

He knows how to deal with intolerant feckers. An openly gay Irish nationalist Taoiseach out-manueuring them and tying the north to the south irreversibly is the stuff of nightmares for the DUP.

The post gym photo in the salmon Under Armour Vest would have absolutely horrified Arlene and Nigel.

Jeffrey's wee heart may have skipped a beat though!!

😂😂😂 what you trying to say JC
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #3611 on: December 06, 2017, 05:25:18 PM »
Faisal Islam(@faisalislam)

DUP’s Paisley is now quoting the 4% GDP hit to the RoI economy as detailed in its own impact assessments of No Deal...
Note: there are no UK equivalents from which to quote


If 4%:roi could be 8% NI.  Paisley Óg is a moron

I have first hand experience of DUP's economic studies and unless there has been a significant change in the last couple of years, there is zero interest in economic facts or trends. They start with a politically charged answer and try and find some theory or data that could possibly be construed as supportive. They then stretch the truth, make completely unethical and illogical connections to support the pre-ordained conclusion.

They can be (and have been!) completely debunked by a bunch of QUB economics undergrads.

DUP studies, contradiction in terms, unless the word Bible is in there, and to be honest- even then...



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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #3612 on: December 06, 2017, 05:30:25 PM »
SDLP rally for Europe at Belfast City Hall tonight 6pm. No regulatory convergence, you either attend the rally or join the adjacent Burger queue at the Christmas Market.You cannot do both.

Well it’s a pre-condition that has more logic than we have seen this week
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #3613 on: December 06, 2017, 05:32:42 PM »
This is class

David Blevins(@skydavidblevins)

BREAK: Michelle O'Neill, Sinn Fein leader at Stormont, tells @SkyNews"We need the Taoiseach to stand firm in the national interest" and ensure what was agreed is not retracted. #Brexit

One nation. 32 counties .

Politics daring to align with reality

https://youtu.be/yRpntHflrNo
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Re: Brexit.
« Reply #3614 on: December 06, 2017, 05:40:36 PM »
Simon Jenkins

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/05/theresa-may-dup-eu-deal-minority-party

"Fudge is good only if it tastes sweet. Theresa May’s deal with the EU on Irish border trade is apparently too bitter for Ulster’s Democratic Unionist party to stomach. Yesterday they wielded a veto. A British government at an international summit was humiliated by a minority partypursuing a minority point of view. It is why governments should never rely on extremist parties. The DUP has three days to make amends, or a terrible vengeance should be taken on them.



It does not matter that the DUP is hypocritical. Decades of Westminster indulging its political primitivism have come home to roost. Unionists have demanded separatism on education, trade, corporate taxes, abortion, homosexuality and a host of pet issues, yet they want to call themselves “British”. They are Irish."

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