Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

Started by Joxer, October 06, 2010, 02:42:28 PM

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armaghniac

If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Evil Genius

Quote from: armaghniac on April 27, 2022, 09:20:34 PM
Don't worry, Naomi will engineer it
https://twitter.com/BelTel_Sport/status/1518987015210946561
The new plan needs £110m (and counting!), while only £62m, plus the GAA's own £15m, was allocated originally. So at a time when ordinary people are struggling to pay their electricity bills etc, where is the extra £33m (and counting) going to come from?

You'd almost think there was an election due...
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Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

If last weeks game v Cavan is anything to go by why is needed?

Rossfan

We're there even  300 Antrim people there?
Just build what the available funds will allow.
A 5k seated stand and some terracing on the other 3 sides will be more than adequate..... unless of course this soccer tourney thing happens.
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Wildweasel74

Does Antrim not deserve their own stadium, what was wrong with building a 25k seater anyway, concentrate on the Gaa and f**k the concerts, something like Armagh had was suffice. Place totally unsuitable for concerts The Rugby and Soccer upgrades never looked at concert provision. I prefer Clones anyway.

Saffrongael

This has nothing to do with Antrim want/need, it's always been political. Sinn Fein are hell bent on delivering this, not just to save face but also for their own means as their subsidiaries will more than likely be based in it. The big Feile events will be in it, which obviously benefits Sinn Fein
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Kickham csc

Usually stay quiet on this issues but I'm getting frustrated on this topic so here goes.

1) the size and capacity for this stadium has nothing to do  with Antrim, it's an Ulster council project and they are planning for semi finals / finals, and 34,000 is what they want
2) The Ulster council are following a standard global stadium business model, where they want to maximize the facility economic potential, therefore conferences, concerts etc need to be considered. This is important, if you can develop alternative funding streams that lessen the load on your current revenue sources you would be an idiot not to do it.
3) Antrim signed Casement over to the UC because the stand needed to be demolished and rebuilt and the Ulster council stepped in, took ownership of the site and responsibility to the demolition etc
4) Ulster council were too arrogant, assuming approval was a certanity, and Antrim board were too naive, believing the Ulster council knew what they were talking about
5) The design problems center around the design concept of traditional stadium bowl. It might have been easier to have private boxes, conference facilities focused on the Andytown road and the existing stand location with the other two sides single tier with support facilities. This would have eliminated the concern of residents about the height of the stadium. (Reading FC, NASCAR stadiums are designed like this   

rosnarun

What kinda of area is Casement Park in.
are conferences, concerts other buiness ventures etc a viable Idea for a cross section of the Belfast population  . which a conference centre would need
The idea of private boxes seemes a bit daft considering how few major games itll probably hold.
what the gaa needs is a smallish (25K) stadium built to high modern standard for may be all ireland semis or league finals , ladies matches ETC.
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Rossfan

From memory of my last visit there it's mostly residential.
There were around 600 people at the match and I had to go to the end of a road to find a parking space between 2 gateways to houses.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Antrim Coaster

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 29, 2022, 07:45:38 AM
Why did the stand have to be demolished?

It's a bit mad that they gave away their ground, worth a hell of a lot of money because a stand for a couple of hundred people "needed demolished".

A stand, by the way, that still hasn't been demolished and that still houses a functioning social club.

Very strange.

Antrim never gave away their ground although pressure was exerted by the Ulster Council to sign it over to them.

Antrim Coaster

Quote from: Kickham csc on April 29, 2022, 12:21:11 AM
Usually stay quiet on this issues but I'm getting frustrated on this topic so here goes.

1) the size and capacity for this stadium has nothing to do  with Antrim, it's an Ulster council project and they are planning for semi finals / finals, and 34,000 is what they want
2) The Ulster council are following a standard global stadium business model, where they want to maximize the facility economic potential, therefore conferences, concerts etc need to be considered. This is important, if you can develop alternative funding streams that lessen the load on your current revenue sources you would be an idiot not to do it.
3) Antrim signed Casement over to the UC because the stand needed to be demolished and rebuilt and the Ulster council stepped in, took ownership of the site and responsibility to the demolition etc
4) Ulster council were too arrogant, assuming approval was a certanity, and Antrim board were too naive, believing the Ulster council knew what they were talking about
5) The design problems center around the design concept of traditional stadium bowl. It might have been easier to have private boxes, conference facilities focused on the Andytown road and the existing stand location with the other two sides single tier with support facilities. This would have eliminated the concern of residents about the height of the stadium. (Reading FC, NASCAR stadiums are designed like this   

That didnt happen.

Wildweasel74

Why was the current pitch not kept in use to actual planning for a new stadium was approved?

armaghniac

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 30, 2022, 11:03:11 PM
Why was the current pitch not kept in use to actual planning for a new stadium was approved?

This is the $100,000,000 question. Even if certain parts of the stand had structural problems you had all the terraces and the floodlights etc and the pitch itself which should have been used all along. It makes no sense and nobody has been called out about this.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Milltown Row2

Quote from: armaghniac on April 30, 2022, 11:08:16 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 30, 2022, 11:03:11 PM
Why was the current pitch not kept in use to actual planning for a new stadium was approved?

This is the $100,000,000 question. Even if certain parts of the stand had structural problems you had all the terraces and the floodlights etc and the pitch itself which should have been used all along. It makes no sense and nobody has been called out about this.

Didn't want to pay the insurance I believe was the reason it closed thinking it was getting knocked down that winter
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