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Title: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Dire Ear on November 26, 2018, 04:58:45 PM
Well, a foregone conclusion?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on November 26, 2018, 05:09:44 PM
Us and Cyaavan hot favourites for the drop.
With us having a late managerial appointment , trying out new players and sorting out some team organisation and defensive system we're certainties
Dublin v Galway or Tyrone for the final.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on November 26, 2018, 05:16:52 PM
D1 is a good opportunity to try out new players. Especially with corofin in the effin club championship.
Last year Galway played quite well but were still well off the pace in the all Ireland semi so narrowing that gap has to be the focus for next year.
Apart from the Empire none of the teams are much to write home about, to be honesht. 

I would like to see the Rossies staying up

https://youtu.be/I_izvAbhExY
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 26, 2018, 05:29:14 PM
Need to start off by saying the these experimental rules is going to make a mess of the league and such experiments should only be used in December,January challenges and the FBD,McKenna,O'Byrne cups.

It looks like Dublin's league to lose again but i have a strong feeling Mayo could win or at least strongly challenge for a league title in 2019. Horan back on board and he'll be looking to hit the ground running, months to train and prepare for the league campaign unlike previous years and time is running out for the 30 years olds to win a national title.

At the other end of the table it looks like Cavan,Roscommon will be relegated but i feel one of them will stay up by the skin of their teeth and maybe someone like Kerry in deep transition could fall through the trap door.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 26, 2018, 07:07:59 PM
I doubt we'll back in the final next year anyway. We have a much tougher schedule of fixtures. Only 3 games at home to the two promoted sides and Kerry and 4 away games to Dublin, Mayo, Tyrone and Monaghan. Corofin players will be missing again also. If we can manage mid table mediocrity that would be grand. Should manage a couple of wins at home and maybe one on the road that would keep them up.

Dubs to reach the final yet again and maybe Mayo to join them if they get a new manager bounce from Horan.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 26, 2018, 09:21:10 PM
What is It, 4 years in a row last day relegation candidates? Have to raise the standard of home games and win a few, because travelling to Kerry, Tyrone and Dublin won't garner many points imo.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on November 26, 2018, 11:35:55 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 26, 2018, 05:29:14 PM
Need to start off by saying the these experimental rules is going to make a mess of the league and such experiments should only be used in December,January challenges and the FBD,McKenna,O'Byrne cups.


They mentioned that on the radio earlier - these rules will make a mess of the league, how can a team train for one set of rules for the league and then revert back for the championship? The handpass one in particular
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on November 26, 2018, 11:42:02 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on November 26, 2018, 07:07:59 PM
I doubt we'll back in the final next year anyway. We have a much tougher schedule of fixtures. Only 3 games at home to the two promoted sides and Kerry and 4 away games to Dublin, Mayo, Tyrone and Monaghan. Corofin players will be missing again also. If we can manage mid table mediocrity that would be grand. Should manage a couple of wins at home and maybe one on the road that would keep them up.

Dubs to reach the final yet again and maybe Mayo to join them if they get a new manager bounce from Horan.

I see that Scotstown have 5 (?) Monaghan starters so if they win the Ulster club on Sunday you'd expect Monaghan to struggle.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 27, 2018, 12:06:14 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on November 26, 2018, 11:35:55 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 26, 2018, 05:29:14 PM
Need to start off by saying the these experimental rules is going to make a mess of the league and such experiments should only be used in December,January challenges and the FBD,McKenna,O'Byrne cups.


They mentioned that on the radio earlier - these rules will make a mess of the league, how can a team train for one set of rules for the league and then revert back for the championship? The handpass one in particular

Yes very daft but those at the top in suits knows best and what does it matter what the players think  ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on November 27, 2018, 12:22:43 AM
It never mattered what mere players think.
Young buicíns in their 20s with semi developed brains.
What would they know compared to the wise old elders?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on November 27, 2018, 09:58:56 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 27, 2018, 12:22:43 AM
It never mattered what mere players think.
Young buicíns in their 20s with semi developed brains.
What would they know compared to the wise old elders?

One of the most trenchant critics of the hoor in the White House is a Rossie.
You can take the man out of Ros but you can't take Ros out of the man.
I think the parents cane from Boyle

John O. Brennan
@JohnBrennan
·
8h
Your feelings of inferiority, insecurity, vulnerability, and culpability are loud & clear. You remind me of how many corrupt authoritarian leaders abroad behaved before they were deposed. Bob Mueller's name will be revered in the annals of U.S. history; your name will be scorned.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 27, 2018, 11:09:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 27, 2018, 09:58:56 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 27, 2018, 12:22:43 AM
It never mattered what mere players think.
Young buicíns in their 20s with semi developed brains.
What would they know compared to the wise old elders?

One of the most trenchant critics of the hoor in the White House is a Rossie.
You can take the man out of Ros but you can't take Ros out of the man.
I think the parents cane from Boyle

John O. Brennan
@JohnBrennan
·
8h
Your feelings of inferiority, insecurity, vulnerability, and culpability are loud & clear. You remind me of how many corrupt authoritarian leaders abroad behaved before they were deposed. Bob Mueller's name will be revered in the annals of U.S. history; your name will be scorned.

What has that post got to do with this thread?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Unlaoised on November 27, 2018, 11:31:04 PM
Dublin very kerry final

Dublin by 6
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on November 28, 2018, 07:04:31 AM
Did I hear correctly that Clifford is gone for the league? Some type of op?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on November 28, 2018, 08:57:47 AM
Quote from: Hound on November 28, 2018, 07:04:31 AM
Did I hear correctly that Clifford is gone for the league? Some type of op?

That's what you get throwing a young lad in at the deep end early. He'll be finished as a player at 27.

The rule on the under 20's is the wrong way around. Under 20's should not be allowed to play senior.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: timmyot501 on November 28, 2018, 09:21:32 AM
Beggan, the 2 Hughes and Conor McCarthy when all fit are certain starters for Monaghan and would be a huge loss for the league should Scotstown win on Sunday.  Shane Carey also starts most games but is always battling for a spot with another couple of players that can do a similar job.  And then the county sub keeper, Conor Forde, is also the sub keeper for Scotstown so he'd be out too.......

That said I hope they win.  Might as well try and unearth another couple of players during the league anyway (even if Scotstown lose and these players are available)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2018, 12:08:04 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 28, 2018, 08:57:47 AM
Quote from: Hound on November 28, 2018, 07:04:31 AM
Did I hear correctly that Clifford is gone for the league? Some type of op?

That's what you get throwing a young lad in at the deep end early. He'll be finished as a player at 27.

The rule on the under 20's is the wrong way around. Under 20's should not be allowed to play senior.

The GAA haven't a clue how to manage players. From young lads playing u16 and minor in the Summer and u15 and u17 in the Winter to u20s playing club, Sigerson and County in 12 months.. I had to pull my 10 year old daughter from Camoige as they are training through the winter, she will return in April. Lip service...
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on November 29, 2018, 04:56:20 PM
Stick to Division 2 you :P
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2018, 05:21:40 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 29, 2018, 04:56:20 PM
Stick to Division 2 you :P

We just can't find a settled home..
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 30, 2018, 04:08:27 AM
I have a sneaky feeling Cavan might just survive in Division 1 by the skin of our teeth. We have a lot of seasoned performers and some returning AFAIK, a new manager bounce and a guy that seems to be going about things the right way, as well as experience in the top flight two seasons ago when we didn't do overly poorly, all things considered. I wouldn't write us off just yet. We might even completely realign the stars and beat Roscommon.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on December 05, 2018, 11:23:08 AM
Mark Bradley taking a year out, big blow to Tyrone?

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Dire Ear on December 05, 2018, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on December 05, 2018, 11:23:08 AM
Mark Bradley taking a year out, big blow to Tyrone?
Yes, would be- we don't have that many forwards that actually play as forwards, so we need the good ones that we have!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 17, 2019, 10:45:13 AM
Is Galway v Cavan confirmed for Salthill?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 17, 2019, 10:54:06 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2018, 05:21:40 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 29, 2018, 04:56:20 PM
Stick to Division 2 you :P

We just can't find a settled home..

Ros, Kildare and Cavan are on similar orbits but in different time zones

When they are up they are up
and when they are down they are down
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 17, 2019, 11:12:46 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 17, 2019, 10:45:13 AM
Is Galway v Cavan confirmed for Salthill?

Yes it's confirmed for Pearse Stadium along with the Roscommon league game. Match against Kerry is the one scheduled for Tuam.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 17, 2019, 11:25:05 AM
Quote from: seafoid on January 17, 2019, 10:54:06 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2018, 05:21:40 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 29, 2018, 04:56:20 PM
Stick to Division 2 you :P

We just can't find a settled home..
Took Galway a long time to get it up and it was the Tally viagra that kept ye up, I reakon ye will fall down this year ;D

Ros, Kildare and Cavan are on similar orbits but in different time zones

When they are up they are up
and when they are down they are down
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 17, 2019, 11:43:10 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on January 17, 2019, 11:12:46 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 17, 2019, 10:45:13 AM
Is Galway v Cavan confirmed for Salthill?

Yes it's confirmed for Pearse Stadium along with the Roscommon league game. Match against Kerry is the one scheduled for Tuam.

Doh, cheers

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 17, 2019, 12:01:33 PM
Very difficult to predict again this year. Galway & Kerry missing a lot of players through Crokes & Corofin and both teams are missing several players through injuries too.

Dublin 8/15
Kerry 13/2
Tyrone 8/1
Mayo 9/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Roscommon 40/1
Cavan 50/1

Don't get Monaghan's odds, along with Tyrone I can't see them going down; Either side don't appear to be missing many players.

I think Roscommon & Cavan will go down but don't think its as clear cut as some seem to think.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 17, 2019, 12:30:44 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 17, 2019, 12:01:33 PM
Very difficult to predict again this year. Galway & Kerry missing a lot of players through Crokes & Corofin and both teams are missing several players through injuries too.

Dublin 8/15
Kerry 13/2
Tyrone 8/1
Mayo 9/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Roscommon 40/1
Cavan 50/1

Don't get Monaghan's odds, along with Tyrone I can't see them going down; Either side don't appear to be missing many players.

I think Roscommon & Cavan will go down but don't think its as clear cut as some seem to think.
It all depends whether or not counties are arsed in the League
Kerry have to pull all the stops out to stop the 5 in a row in September so may not be focused on February
You wouldn't know about Tyrone
Mayo are rebuilding
Galway might have less "intinsity" than last year

I would be surprised if any of Ros and Cavan or both stayed up
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on January 17, 2019, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 17, 2019, 12:01:33 PM
Very difficult to predict again this year. Galway & Kerry missing a lot of players through Crokes & Corofin and both teams are missing several players through injuries too.

Dublin 8/15
Kerry 13/2
Tyrone 8/1
Mayo 9/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Roscommon 40/1
Cavan 50/1

Don't get Monaghan's odds, along with Tyrone I can't see them going down; Either side don't appear to be missing many players.

I think Roscommon & Cavan will go down but don't think its as clear cut as some seem to think.

Monaghan definitely the value bet
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 17, 2019, 09:43:24 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 17, 2019, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 17, 2019, 12:01:33 PM
Very difficult to predict again this year. Galway & Kerry missing a lot of players through Crokes & Corofin and both teams are missing several players through injuries too.

Dublin 8/15
Kerry 13/2
Tyrone 8/1
Mayo 9/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Roscommon 40/1
Cavan 50/1

Don't get Monaghan's odds, along with Tyrone I can't see them going down; Either side don't appear to be missing many players.

I think Roscommon & Cavan will go down but don't think its as clear cut as some seem to think.

Monaghan definitely the value bet

Monaghan don't have the squad dept for to give the League a go and then have a go at the Ulster Championship! 16/1 is about right!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 17, 2019, 10:33:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 17, 2019, 09:43:24 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 17, 2019, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 17, 2019, 12:01:33 PM
Very difficult to predict again this year. Galway & Kerry missing a lot of players through Crokes & Corofin and both teams are missing several players through injuries too.

Dublin 8/15
Kerry 13/2
Tyrone 8/1
Mayo 9/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Roscommon 40/1
Cavan 50/1

Don't get Monaghan's odds, along with Tyrone I can't see them going down; Either side don't appear to be missing many players.

I think Roscommon & Cavan will go down but don't think its as clear cut as some seem to think.

Monaghan definitely the value bet

Monaghan don't have the squad dept for to give the League a go and then have a go at the Ulster Championship! 16/1 is about right!

I don't think 16/1 is right for a team that finished 3rd in the league last year and just inches away from reaching the AI final. Kerry odds are far too short, Weren't that convincing in the league or championship last year and are in full blown transition now. New manager and loads of new and young players introduced into the team. No Crokes players will make things more difficult for them.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on January 17, 2019, 11:00:23 PM
In last 4 years cavan have played Galway twice in the league, once in salthill and once in Breffni. Cavan won both. The Breffni game was winner gets promoted to Div1. It's unfortunate we will be short gearoid McKiernan and a few others as I'd have fancied our chances with a full team.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 18, 2019, 06:26:14 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 17, 2019, 11:00:23 PM
In last 4 years cavan have played Galway twice in the league, once in salthill and once in Breffni. Cavan won both. The Breffni game was winner gets promoted to Div1. It's unfortunate we will be short gearoid McKiernan and a few others as I'd have fancied our chances with a full team.
The second time was a straight fight for promotion iirc. I think Galway did better staying down another year because they clearly weren't up to scratch later in the year. They needed more time.
Last year was a pleasant surprise and the super 8's went well even if we are still a good bit behind the Dubs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 18, 2019, 07:36:03 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 18, 2019, 06:26:14 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 17, 2019, 11:00:23 PM
In last 4 years cavan have played Galway twice in the league, once in salthill and once in Breffni. Cavan won both. The Breffni game was winner gets promoted to Div1. It's unfortunate we will be short gearoid McKiernan and a few others as I'd have fancied our chances with a full team.
The second time was a straight fight for promotion iirc. I think Galway did better staying down another year because they clearly weren't up to scratch later in the year. They needed more time.
Last year was a pleasant surprise and the super 8's went well even if we are still a good bit behind the Dubs.
and a long long way behind Monaghan as well as lucky to beat Kildare.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 18, 2019, 07:38:43 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 18, 2019, 06:26:14 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 17, 2019, 11:00:23 PM
In last 4 years cavan have played Galway twice in the league, once in salthill and once in Breffni. Cavan won both. The Breffni game was winner gets promoted to Div1. It's unfortunate we will be short gearoid McKiernan and a few others as I'd have fancied our chances with a full team.
The second time was a straight fight for promotion iirc. I think Galway did better staying down another year because they clearly weren't up to scratch later in the year. They needed more time.
Last year was a pleasant surprise and the super 8's went well even if we are still a good bit behind the Dubs.

These things are all cycles. :)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 19, 2019, 08:18:16 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 17, 2019, 10:33:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 17, 2019, 09:43:24 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 17, 2019, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 17, 2019, 12:01:33 PM
Very difficult to predict again this year. Galway & Kerry missing a lot of players through Crokes & Corofin and both teams are missing several players through injuries too.

Dublin 8/15
Kerry 13/2
Tyrone 8/1
Mayo 9/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Roscommon 40/1
Cavan 50/1

Don't get Monaghan's odds, along with Tyrone I can't see them going down; Either side don't appear to be missing many players.

I think Roscommon & Cavan will go down but don't think its as clear cut as some seem to think.

Monaghan definitely the value bet

Monaghan don't have the squad dept for to give the League a go and then have a go at the Ulster Championship! 16/1 is about right!

I don't think 16/1 is right for a team that finished 3rd in the league last year and just inches away from reaching the AI final. Kerry odds are far too short, Weren't that convincing in the league or championship last year and are in full blown transition now. New manager and loads of new and young players introduced into the team. No Crokes players will make things more difficult for them.
I'd hang on to my money. It's a tough draw for Monaghan, even if they beat Dublin at home in the first game which is a tough ask, there are 4 away games where we'd be doing very good to win 2.
Tyrone look to be in a much better position with 4 home games, to finish in the top 2.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 20, 2019, 04:08:45 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 19, 2019, 08:18:16 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 17, 2019, 10:33:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 17, 2019, 09:43:24 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 17, 2019, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 17, 2019, 12:01:33 PM
Very difficult to predict again this year. Galway & Kerry missing a lot of players through Crokes & Corofin and both teams are missing several players through injuries too.

Dublin 8/15
Kerry 13/2
Tyrone 8/1
Mayo 9/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Roscommon 40/1
Cavan 50/1

Don't get Monaghan's odds, along with Tyrone I can't see them going down; Either side don't appear to be missing many players.

I think Roscommon & Cavan will go down but don't think its as clear cut as some seem to think.

Monaghan definitely the value bet

Monaghan don't have the squad dept for to give the League a go and then have a go at the Ulster Championship! 16/1 is about right!

I don't think 16/1 is right for a team that finished 3rd in the league last year and just inches away from reaching the AI final. Kerry odds are far too short, Weren't that convincing in the league or championship last year and are in full blown transition now. New manager and loads of new and young players introduced into the team. No Crokes players will make things more difficult for them.
I'd hang on to my money. It's a tough draw for Monaghan, even if they beat Dublin at home in the first game which is a tough ask, there are 4 away games where we'd be doing very good to win 2.
Tyrone look to be in a much better position with 4 home games, to finish in the top 2.
An béal Bocht
Shur Monaghan have 3 all stars
And didn't Tyrone lose the first 3 in a row last year? Wasn't it great ould entertainment in a cold February?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on January 20, 2019, 04:27:14 AM
Beal bocht me arse , 2019 now ,dubs heading for total dominance ,mcAffrey shiftin young fellas and still people think they will be stopped , the end is nigh ,once  the jacks realised they could win all before and after ,twas over . County game is finished as we know it ,only a matter of time . When is enough enough ,five all Irelands ,six seven ? Tell me when
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 20, 2019, 01:37:57 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 20, 2019, 04:27:14 AM
Beal bocht me arse , 2019 now ,dubs heading for total dominance ,mcAffrey shiftin young fellas and still people think they will be stopped , the end is nigh ,once  the jacks realised they could win all before and after ,twas over . County game is finished as we know it ,only a matter of time . When is enough enough ,five all Irelands ,six seven ? Tell me when
G'man, Larry looks like you had the few scoops last night by the looks of it and fair play to ye!   ;D
When will enough be enough? It will be enough when Croke Park is sold to some venture capitalists or vultures as us culchies would say. The 'For Sale' signs will be up on every GAA ground in the land.
What with the way the Dubs are steamrolling all around them and ordinary punters are forced to cough up €20 to go see some mickey mouse league game in January you don't need Specsavers to tell you yer eyesight is banjaxed if you don't see trouble ahead.
The Dubs will never give up or grow tired of winning everything is sight as long as they have a steady stream of talented young fellas snapping at the heels of boyos fighting like frig to hang on to their places.
The rest of us can go suck the hind tit, this is worse than the backstop!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mouview on January 20, 2019, 07:07:56 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 17, 2019, 11:00:23 PM
In last 4 years cavan have played Galway twice in the league, once in salthill and once in Breffni. Cavan won both. The Breffni game was winner gets promoted to Div1. It's unfortunate we will be short gearoid McKiernan and a few others as I'd have fancied our chances with a full team.

Given Galway's turgid display today, allied to the amount of players who will be unavailable, I'd say Cavan will be a good bet to continue that winning run.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 22, 2019, 08:14:34 AM
Odds via Oddschecker

Dubs           4/7
Kerry          7/1
Throne        8/1
MGHU         10/1
Herrins        12/1
Monaghan    16/1
Ros             50/1
Cavan          100/1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 22, 2019, 12:59:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 22, 2019, 08:14:34 AM
Odds via Oddschecker

Dubs           4/7
Kerry          7/1
Throne        8/1
MGHU         10/1
Herrins        12/1
Monaghan    16/1
Ros             50/1
Cavan          100/1

And the relegation odds

Roscommon 8/15
Cavan 4/7
Monaghan 11/4
Galway 7/2
Mayo 4/1
Kerry 6/1
Tyrone 11/2
Dublin 33/1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on January 22, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 22, 2019, 09:43:40 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 22, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.
Jaysus larrin, are you still doing the lotto?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 22, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 22, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 22, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 22, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 22, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.

It's definitely not about the Journey if you are a Dublin supporter!  ;) You go ahead and hide behind your blind love of the game. As a spectacle and as as a competition the game is dead. The GAA Authorities don't know what to do. Look at the odds for the National League! Jesus wept!

Dads Army are done and dusted. The final nail is the Super 8! Two extra games for a group that now have a long list of injuries, wear and tear.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 23, 2019, 05:02:58 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 22, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 22, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.

It's definitely not about the Journey if you are a Dublin supporter!  ;) You go ahead and hide behind your blind love of the game. As a spectacle and as as a competition the game is dead. The GAA Authorities don't know what to do. Look at the odds for the National League! Jesus wept!

Dads Army are done and dusted. The final nail is the Super 8! Two extra games for a group that now have a long list of injuries, wear and tear.

It's a structural crisis made up of

The gap between the Dubs and the rest. Competition is gone
Attendances /TV numbers
Numbers of players giving up
Funding imbalances
The game is not football any more. It is something else
The GAA is not on top of things
Rule chaos

It is not going to improve without radical change

Thank god for Mullinalaghta
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 23, 2019, 08:40:58 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 22, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 22, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.

It's definitely not about the Journey if you are a Dublin supporter!  ;) You go ahead and hide behind your blind love of the game. As a spectacle and as as a competition the game is dead. The GAA Authorities don't know what to do. Look at the odds for the National League! Jesus wept!

Dads Army are done and dusted. The final nail is the Super 8! Two extra games for a group that now have a long list of injuries, wear and tear.

Yea maybe. If Horan gives youth a chance then who knows. But this is a thread about the league. I would be happy if Mayo started to not let teams back into games if they have a good lead at half time, I'm sure this is a more pressing issue at training. Or I hope it would be.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 23, 2019, 03:52:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 22, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 22, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.

It's definitely not about the Journey if you are a Dublin supporter!  ;) You go ahead and hide behind your blind love of the game. As a spectacle and as as a competition the game is dead. The GAA Authorities don't know what to do. Look at the odds for the National League! Jesus wept!

Dads Army are done and dusted. The final nail is the Super 8! Two extra games for a group that now have a long list of injuries, wear and tear.
Do you honestly think anyone if going to buy that poor mouth last sentence? As spectacle the league is the most enjoyable competition the GAA have and those at the top use it as a trial ground for new rules that won't be used in the championship this summer. Anyway we'll see how dead it is by the attendance for Saturday night's game in MacHale Park.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 23, 2019, 03:57:33 PM
Is Mickey Graham double jobbing at the moment ?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 23, 2019, 03:57:33 PM
Is Mickey Graham double jobbing at the moment ?

Yes and Anthony Cunningham double jobbed with Garrycastle and Galway senior hurlers in 2012 and led both to All Ireland finals. If Mickey can get the same type of desire,commitment and work rate out of Cavan as he did Mullinalaghta they should stay up in Div one against the odds.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 23, 2019, 06:04:35 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 23, 2019, 03:57:33 PM
Is Mickey Graham double jobbing at the moment ?

Yes and Anthony Cunningham double jobbed with Garrycastle and Galway senior hurlers in 2012 and led both to All Ireland finals. If Mickey can get the same type of desire,commitment and work rate out of Cavan as he did Mullinalaghta they should stay up in Div one against the odds.
He is a very good manager. That is a big plus for Cavan
I think Mayo might be vulnerable
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 10:11:52 PM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 23, 2019, 10:28:42 PM
Roscommon have used something like 55 players in 3/4 years.
How is that sustainable?
They are drifting away from the game, even at club level.

No jobs in likes of Roscommon
No pitches to train on
No free cars, holidays, clothing that a select few counties seem to get
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 23, 2019, 10:54:23 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 23, 2019, 10:28:42 PM
Roscommon have used something like 55 players in 3/4 years.
How is that sustainable?
They are drifting away from the game, even at club level.

No jobs in likes of Roscommon
No pitches to train on
No free cars, holidays, clothing that a select few counties seem to get

There was a dream there (in Roscommon) for a few years. Great work was done at underage in the '00. It looked like it was only a matter of time and Roscommon would be dining at the top table. Success was always followed by a huge downer, once the Rossie got in with the big boys.

The dream is over for a lot of the present bunch. They know the standard they know how far away they are from it. They know how much better off the bigger guns are. It's easier to walk away than to prolong the pain, put your youth on hold and still get ridiculed at the end!

The GAA are not going to come up with a plan and money for Roscommon to help their Clubs and encourage more people away from Soccer and Rugby. And in turn to have a good intercounty team.  Why? Because Roscommon fans base is small and the GAA don't really care about small counties.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 23, 2019, 11:03:23 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 10:11:52 PM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris

Not a million miles off full strength bar one or two in the forwards.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 11:30:40 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 23, 2019, 11:03:23 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 10:11:52 PM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris

Not a million miles off full strength bar one or two in the forwards.

McLoughlin,O'Connor,Barrett will be first 15 probably replacing Diskin,Regan and O'Donoghue. Others such as A Moran,S O Shea,Clarke may have to settle for a place on the bench this year given their age.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on January 24, 2019, 12:06:58 AM
Nice to see ye're naming a MAYO team ;)
Keep that up and he might have Sam by year end.
As for Saturday...handy win for Ros.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on January 24, 2019, 12:16:35 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 10:11:52 PM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris

Midfield not great , Vaughan not proven in that position . OAP subs bench very worrying ,Aido fitness levels expected to be ridiculously low , Boyler will be at fault for a goal ,Higgins will be roasted best days are behind him . Reape and diskin could be chewed up in the intense battle expected sat night but will need the experience.

You never know on the night but I have a bad feeLing ros will sneak this one as they are in great shape .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 24, 2019, 12:21:14 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 24, 2019, 12:16:35 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 10:11:52 PM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris

Midfield not great , Vaughan not proven in that position . OAP subs bench very worrying ,Aido fitness levels expected to be ridiculously low , Boyler will be at fault for a goal ,Higgins will be roasted best days are behind him . Reape and diskin could be chewed up in the intense battle expected sat night but will need the experience.

You never know on the night but I have a bad feeLing ros will sneak this one as they are in great shape .

I'd say truthfully Larry you are expecting Mayo to wrap up this contest against a patched up Roscommon team by half time.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on January 24, 2019, 01:15:54 AM
Truthfully I wouldn't back Mayo nor against them.  There is a bit of the unknown to mayo on two levels can our battle hardened seasoned lads produce one more good year like 16/17 and how our newbies take to the real stuff . I suspect we could be negative on both but who really knows till the action starts,  sure someone like Evan Regan might start bursting the net sat night out of nowhere but all we can form our opinion on is form and ours has been on a downward spiral since all Ireland final day 2017,let's be honest .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 24, 2019, 08:52:46 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 24, 2019, 12:16:35 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 10:11:52 PM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris

Midfield not great , Vaughan not proven in that position . OAP subs bench very worrying ,Aido fitness levels expected to be ridiculously low , Boyler will be at fault for a goal ,Higgins will be roasted best days are behind him . Reape and diskin could be chewed up in the intense battle expected sat night but will need the experience.

You never know on the night but I have a bad feeLing ros will sneak this one as they are in great shape .

You're been lenient on Vaughan in midfield, he has proven himself unable to play there in my opinion. Hopefully Reape and Diskin can prove they're up to county standard. Worried about who'll take the frees, will Hennelly continue to take them?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Randy on January 24, 2019, 10:50:42 AM
Regan gets some amount of chances and has yet to deliver on any stage in my opinion. I hope that this year he finally starts to add some scores to his game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 24, 2019, 11:16:42 AM
Quote from: Randy on January 24, 2019, 10:50:42 AM
Regan gets some amount of chances and has yet to deliver on any stage in my opinion. I hope that this year he finally starts to add some scores to his game.
Mayo have been short on scoring forwards since 2012 which is very strange
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 24, 2019, 11:56:53 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 24, 2019, 12:16:35 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 10:11:52 PM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris

Midfield not great , Vaughan not proven in that position . OAP subs bench very worrying ,Aido fitness levels expected to be ridiculously low , Boyler will be at fault for a goal ,Higgins will be roasted best days are behind him . Reape and diskin could be chewed up in the intense battle expected sat night but will need the experience.

You never know on the night but I have a bad feeLing ros will sneak this one as they are in great shape .

Your dream full forward line of Regan & Reape!

That team will beat Roscommon. Don't be taking too much notice of the FBD.

I have my doubt whether we'll ever see the best of Keegan, his athleticism is a big part of his game and he's had 2 very serious injuries in the last 18 months.

Mayo have an issue at full back but Harrison may solve that, looks like midfield is going to a bit of a problem though. Reape & Diskin might shoot the lights out and that might change your negativity.




Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mouview on January 24, 2019, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 23, 2019, 06:04:35 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 23, 2019, 03:57:33 PM
Is Mickey Graham double jobbing at the moment ?

Yes and Anthony Cunningham double jobbed with Garrycastle and Galway senior hurlers in 2012 and led both to All Ireland finals. If Mickey can get the same type of desire,commitment and work rate out of Cavan as he did Mullinalaghta they should stay up in Div one against the odds.
He is a very good manager. That is a big plus for Cavan
I think Mayo might be vulnerable

I think a refreshed and very experienced Mayo could well go deep into the season this year, given the vacuum of any real decent teams out there, save you-know-who.
I think Galway will be very vulnerable this year; they won't have a full squad to pick from until late in the league and the manager's caution and limitations will ultimately fetter the team again I greatly fear.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 24, 2019, 04:10:10 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 24, 2019, 11:56:53 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 24, 2019, 12:16:35 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 10:11:52 PM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris

Midfield not great , Vaughan not proven in that position . OAP subs bench very worrying ,Aido fitness levels expected to be ridiculously low , Boyler will be at fault for a goal ,Higgins will be roasted best days are behind him . Reape and diskin could be chewed up in the intense battle expected sat night but will need the experience.

You never know on the night but I have a bad feeLing ros will sneak this one as they are in great shape .

Your dream full forward line of Regan & Reape!

That team will beat Roscommon. Don't be taking too much notice of the FBD.

I have my doubt whether we'll ever see the best of Keegan, his athleticism is a big part of his game and he's had 2 very serious injuries in the last 18 months.

Mayo have an issue at full back but Harrison may solve that, looks like midfield is going to a bit of a problem though. Reape & Diskin might shoot the lights out and that might change your negativity.
I would be worrying about Cavan if I was you maroon mac, rhubarbs and rossie will look after their own corner, Cavan have turned ye over the last few times ye have played them and I would give them a fighting chance Sunday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 24, 2019, 04:44:21 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 24, 2019, 11:16:42 AM
Quote from: Randy on January 24, 2019, 10:50:42 AM
Regan gets some amount of chances and has yet to deliver on any stage in my opinion. I hope that this year he finally starts to add some scores to his game.
Mayo have been short on scoring forwards since 2012 which is very strange
Mayo were never noted for natural scoring forwards as far back as I can remember. There were a few okay but they were few and some were mighty good but by comparison with other position from goal out to midfield, fro goal out to midfield they were incredibly scarce.
Horan overcame that to a large extent by altering the way the team played as a unit and with everyone expected to muck in and, but for a truly bizarre run of poxy luck, they'd have a couple of All Irelands by now.
Dunno what James will come up with this year but I place a lot of confidence in him- after all what he did after the carnage in Longford back in 2010 was nothing short of a miracle.
This year it appears all the old hands are ready for another go and I don't think Horan would have gone back of he didnt see some spark still left in his reliables. We've been writing the whole lot of them off for years now and they still haven't shown any signs of having had enough.
Short term is hard to call and I dunno what will happen versus the sheep shaggers next week as it's early days yet. But the likes of Diskin, Plunkeet and Reape are showing early promise. On the downside, there are a few others who have been neither on nor off the team for a couple of seasons now and for them, it's surely make yer mind up time.
Regan is one and Conor Loftus is another- both showed they have great potential but both are iffy where reliability is concerned. The likes of Crowe, Coen, Kirby and Nally are a few of the others and you could include Fergal Boland as well. This could be their year and even if half of them step up to the mark, we could be motoring again.
Keep the faith!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 24, 2019, 06:02:17 PM
Quote from: mouview on January 24, 2019, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 23, 2019, 06:04:35 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 23, 2019, 03:57:33 PM
Is Mickey Graham double jobbing at the moment ?

Yes and Anthony Cunningham double jobbed with Garrycastle and Galway senior hurlers in 2012 and led both to All Ireland finals. If Mickey can get the same type of desire,commitment and work rate out of Cavan as he did Mullinalaghta they should stay up in Div one against the odds.
He is a very good manager. That is a big plus for Cavan
I think Mayo might be vulnerable

I think a refreshed and very experienced Mayo could well go deep into the season this year, given the vacuum of any real decent teams out there, save you-know-who.
I think Galway will be very vulnerable this year; they won't have a full squad to pick from until late in the league and the manager's caution and limitations will ultimately fetter the team again I greatly fear.
Pretty standard end of January Mouview there ;).
I think they kicked or maybe hand passed on a bit last year. Cavan didn't but then again they have a good manager now
I was surprised at how easily teams rolled over in front of the maroon juggernaut last year in D1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Aaron Boone on January 24, 2019, 07:12:46 PM
Kerry and Mayo have flirted with relegation the last 3 years, so one should go through the trapdoor this year. Tyrone have been more yo-yo this decade, used to be a sound bet for 8 or 10 points every year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 25, 2019, 10:55:19 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on January 24, 2019, 07:12:46 PM
Kerry and Mayo have flirted with relegation the last 3 years, so one should go through the trapdoor this year. Tyrone have been more yo-yo this decade, used to be a sound bet for 8 or 10 points every year.
I was thinking along those lines as well
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 25, 2019, 11:03:29 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on January 24, 2019, 07:12:46 PM
Kerry and Mayo have flirted with relegation the last 3 years, so one should go through the trapdoor this year. Tyrone have been more yo-yo this decade, used to be a sound bet for 8 or 10 points every year.

Saturday night will tell a lot about how Mayo are fixed for relegation. I think the three Connacht teams will struggle in Division One.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 25, 2019, 12:05:38 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 25, 2019, 11:03:29 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on January 24, 2019, 07:12:46 PM
Kerry and Mayo have flirted with relegation the last 3 years, so one should go through the trapdoor this year. Tyrone have been more yo-yo this decade, used to be a sound bet for 8 or 10 points every year.

Saturday night will tell a lot about how Mayo are fixed for relegation. I think the three Connacht teams will struggle in Division One.
Last year there was a clear split between the strong teams and the weak ones. Almost every match between a strong team and a weak one was won by the strong team
Dubs, Galway, Tyrone and Monaghan ended up in the AI SF

Kerry were weak and didn't make it out of the super 8. Mayo didn't even get that far. Kildare did well to make the last 8 . Donegal improved somewhat

So it depends how much Kerry and Mayo have improved and whether Ros and Cavan can kick on
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 25, 2019, 12:13:22 PM
An odd request but I'm over for the weekend with no transport. Anyone on Galway/Mayo border that would have space in the car for a lift into Galway for the match? More than happy to contribute towards fuel or pay for a ticket.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 25, 2019, 09:03:45 PM
Predictions?

Mayo and Ros to draw.
Kerry to beat Tyrone.
Galway to struggle past Cavan.
Monaghan to beat the Dubs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 25, 2019, 09:12:19 PM
The Galway team to play Cavan.

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Cumann Peile Naomh Anna)
4. David Wynne (Cumann Peile Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Seán Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciaran Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Fintan Cooney (St. James')
11. Johnny Duane (St. James')
12. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
13. Danny Cummins (Claregalway)
14. Eoin Finnerty (Mountbellew Moylough)
15. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)

I think all bar two has started in Connacht finals?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on January 25, 2019, 09:25:00 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 25, 2019, 09:12:19 PM
The Galway team to play Cavan.

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Cumann Peile Naomh Anna)
4. David Wynne (Cumann Peile Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Seán Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciaran Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Fintan Cooney (St. James')
11. Johnny Duane (St. James')
12. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
13. Danny Cummins (Claregalway)
14. Eoin Finnerty (Mountbellew Moylough)
15. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)

I think all bar two has started in Connacht finals?
That's a poor forward unit is all I can say.
Duane and Heaney are backs, Cooney & Finnerty not up to that level imo.
David Wynne an extremely weak link in the fb line.
Walsh and Danny the only real scoring threats.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 25, 2019, 09:28:01 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 25, 2019, 09:12:19 PM
The Galway team to play Cavan.

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Cumann Peile Naomh Anna)
4. David Wynne (Cumann Peile Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Seán Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciaran Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Fintan Cooney (St. James')
11. Johnny Duane (St. James')
12. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
13. Danny Cummins (Claregalway)
14. Eoin Finnerty (Mountbellew Moylough)
15. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)

I think all bar two has started in Connacht finals?

So Heaney is the only one who made it from the four injured in the FBD final. M Daly, Kyne and McDaid all missing unless one or two are on the bench. Some of the NUIG lads missing as they played last Wednesday and play again next Wednesday presumably.

I will say that Walsh has some fascination with putting defenders in the half-forward line. Constantly does it. I know his choices are limited this week but still.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 25, 2019, 09:42:42 PM
Johnny Duane at CHF?! I'll be very interested who is on the subs bench on the programme Sunday to see who is missing out if that's where we are at, some injuries to deal with granted, but still...
I've an open mind on the likes of Cooney and Finnerty, we'll see how it goes for them. When was the last time Danny Cummins started a match for Galway? He'll need to hit the ground running the way things are shaping up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 09:47:57 PM
Not exactly going to be an open free flowing game then, how many defenders can you name on one team!  :-\ Bradshaw, Duggan, Cooney had stinkers last week, lets hope things improve Sunday. Both Dalys must be carrying injuries. That said, I wonder is Sigerson a contributing factor here? A lot of lads played this week and they're out again next week. Can't see that team beating Cavan to be honest and this is one game we really need 2 points from.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on January 25, 2019, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on January 25, 2019, 09:42:42 PM
Johnny Duane at CHF?! I'll be very interested who is on the subs bench on the programme Sunday to see who is missing out if that's where we are at, some injuries to deal with granted, but still...
I've an open mind on the likes of Cooney and Finnerty, we'll see how it goes for them. When was the last time Danny Cummins started a match for Galway? He'll need to hit the ground running the way things are shaping up.
McHugh is dropped presumably?
Cunningham not going to get a look in by the looks of it at this stage given how many forwards are out already.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on January 25, 2019, 09:52:20 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 09:47:57 PM
Not exactly going to be an open free flowing game then, how many defenders can you name on one team!  :-\ Bradshaw, Duggan, Cooney had stinkers last week, lets hope things improve Sunday. Both Dalys must be carrying injuries. That said, I wonder is Sigerson a contributing factor here? A lot of lads played this week and they're out again next week. Can't see that team beating Cavan to be honest and this is one game we really need 2 points from.
John Daly tweaked his hamstring in the Mayo game.
Did not tog for NUIG in Sigerson.
We could struggle for scores on Sunday.
It's hard to know what Cavan are like.
Shane Walsh the only freetaker in the team too with McHugh not selected.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 09:58:28 PM
McHugh injured too according to Galway Bay this evening. Surely there's a couple of half decent forwards that were in the training squad or are we that stuck that we need to be naming defenders in the forwards? The sooner Corofin finish their club campaign the better!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrdeeds on January 25, 2019, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: galwayman on January 25, 2019, 09:52:20 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 09:47:57 PM
Not exactly going to be an open free flowing game then, how many defenders can you name on one team!  :-\ Bradshaw, Duggan, Cooney had stinkers last week, lets hope things improve Sunday. Both Dalys must be carrying injuries. That said, I wonder is Sigerson a contributing factor here? A lot of lads played this week and they're out again next week. Can't see that team beating Cavan to be honest and this is one game we really need 2 points from.
John Daly tweaked his hamstring in the Mayo game.
Did not tog for NUIG in Sigerson.
We could struggle for scores on Sunday.
It's hard to know what Cavan are like.
Shane Walsh the only freetaker in the team too with McHugh not selected.

We don't know what we're like. Gearoid obviously huge loss and we have a lot of new panellists in who are very young and light.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 25, 2019, 10:00:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 09:47:57 PM
Not exactly going to be an open free flowing game then, how many defenders can you name on one team!  :-\ Bradshaw, Duggan, Cooney had stinkers last week, lets hope things improve Sunday. Both Dalys must be carrying injuries. That said, I wonder is Sigerson a contributing factor here? A lot of lads played this week and they're out again next week. Can't see that team beating Cavan to be honest and this is one game we really need 2 points from.

I'm not a betting man but Cavan at 11/4 is looking serious value, coming in from 3-1 at start of the week.
Midfield will have to absolutely boss the game for Galway to get enough chances to kick any reasonable score I think.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 25, 2019, 10:00:49 PM
Why not give Cunningham a go in the corner and move Shane Walsh to 11? I mean you probably learn more from that than sticking more defenders up front.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on January 25, 2019, 10:06:15 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 25, 2019, 10:00:49 PM
Why not give Cunningham a go in the corner and move Shane Walsh to 11? I mean you probably learn more from that than sticking more defenders up front.
Yeah Cunningham well capable of playing 11 also. Lethal pace.
Look he may or may not be up to the required standard - I would say there are question marks about his workrate and physicality for that level of football - but the only way to find out is to give him a start and see how he does.
Not 5-10 mins at the end of a game - you learn nothing.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 10:06:53 PM
Cunningham looked lively when he came on last week, he deserves a chance at this stage. Don't know what to make of the inclusion of Danny Cummins, hadn't kicked a ball in over a year until last Sunday and didn't cover himself in glory. Duane at 11 is a ridiculous move, big pressure on Finnerty too, he's being thrown in the deep end. This is a day Shane Walsh needs to shine, we'll see. I'd hope we'd see Comer and Daly on the subs bench. Daly led the come back against Mayo in the FBD.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 25, 2019, 10:12:18 PM
I had expected to see Cunnigham get a run in the league this year after playing very well for the Juniors last year and being in the overall Galway setup during the year. As his clubman said there if he's not up to it then fine but give the chance in from the start at least.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on January 25, 2019, 10:12:55 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 10:06:53 PM
Cunningham looked lively when he came on last week, he deserves a chance at this stage. Don't know what to make of the inclusion of Danny Cummins, hadn't kicked a ball in over a year until last Sunday and didn't cover himself in glory. Duane at 11 is a ridiculous move, big pressure on Finnerty too, he's being thrown in the deep end. This is a day Shane Walsh needs to shine, we'll see. I'd hope we'd see Comer and Daly on the subs bench. Daly led the come back against Mayo in the FBD.
He is injured though. Didn't play for NUIG on Wednesday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 10:23:29 PM
Presumably McDaid is still carrying that hamstring injury he picked up last weekend also.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Gael85 on January 25, 2019, 10:25:41 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 25, 2019, 10:00:49 PM
Why not give Cunningham a go in the corner and move Shane Walsh to 11? I mean you probably learn more from that than sticking more defenders up front.

Is that the lad who played soccer with Galway Utd?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 10:26:15 PM
That's him.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrdeeds on January 25, 2019, 11:16:09 PM
TEAM NEWS: Panel to play Galway Announced.

Mickey Graham & his management have named the panel for this Sunday's Allianz Football League Round 1 game v Galway. Throw in is 2.30pm in Pearse Stadium, Salthill.

This game is part of a double header with Galway playing Laois in Allianz Hurling League at 12.30pm.

The team sees league debuts set for Crosserlough club mates Conor Rehill and Pierce Smith.

Panel v Galway
1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
5. Niall Murray (Cavan Gaels)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Conor Rehill (Crosserlough)
8. Michael Argue (Bailieborough)
9. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
10. Pierce Smith (Crosserlough)
11. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
12. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
13. Jack Brady (Ramor United)
14. Thomas Galligan (Lacken)
15. Conor Madden (Gowna)

16. Liam Brady (Ramor United)
17. Barry Fortune (Cavan Gaels)
18. Stephen Murray (Cavan Gaels)
19. Paul Graham (Cavan Gaels)
20. Stephen Smith (Crosserlough)
21. Luke Fortune (Cavan Gaels)
22. Killian Brady (Mullahoran)
23. James Galligan (Lacken)
24. Oisin Pierson (Gowna)
25. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
26. Kevin Tierney (Ballyhaise)

http://cavangaa.ie/2019/01/senior-panel-play-galway/
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 11:34:24 PM
Isn't it great to see a panel announcement rather than a team announcement, we're always being told it's a panel game, name your panel then managers!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrdeeds on January 25, 2019, 11:35:55 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 11:34:24 PM
Isn't it great to see a panel announcement rather than a team announcement, we're always being told it's a panel game, name your panel then managers!

Well you have to name your 26 by Wednesday or you're fined.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on January 25, 2019, 11:51:02 PM
Listen cavan are in with a shout but Galway are still favourites and it's a midfield they could win this game. Clarke won't play there, so you'll have Thomas galligan and argue who are untested at this level.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Westside on January 26, 2019, 10:26:22 AM
Cavan have a puncher's chance here but not much more. Gearoid is a massive loss. We have players who aren't proven at this level, our bench is inexperienced and Galway have been operating at a level we haven't gotten close to in years.

That said, happy with the team as named. If they gel well together I expect them to give a decent account of themselves
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 26, 2019, 02:06:36 PM
Im hearing Andy Moran is starting for the rhubarbs this evening, good to see them giving youth a chance 8)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 26, 2019, 02:10:27 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on January 26, 2019, 02:06:36 PM
Im hearing Andy Moran is starting for the rhubarbs this evening, good to see them giving youth a chance 8)
No surprise if that happens. Probably would have started Barrett,McLoughlin,O'Connor if they were available and fit to start also. Horan laying down a marker that Mayo are taking the league very serious this year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 26, 2019, 02:50:42 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 26, 2019, 02:10:27 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on January 26, 2019, 02:06:36 PM
Im hearing Andy Moran is starting for the rhubarbs this evening, good to see them giving youth a chance 8)
No surprise if that happens. Probably would have started Barrett,McLoughlin,O'Connor if they were available and fit to start also. Horan laying down a marker that Mayo are taking the league very serious this year.

It'll be taken as serious by him as he took the FBD! This time of the year is all about getting back from injury or not getting injured in the first place!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 26, 2019, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 26, 2019, 02:50:42 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 26, 2019, 02:10:27 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on January 26, 2019, 02:06:36 PM
Im hearing Andy Moran is starting for the rhubarbs this evening, good to see them giving youth a chance 8)
No surprise if that happens. Probably would have started Barrett,McLoughlin,O'Connor if they were available and fit to start also. Horan laying down a marker that Mayo are taking the league very serious this year.

It'll be taken as serious by him as he took the FBD! This time of the year is all about getting back from injury or not getting injured in the first place!

FBD line ups were half strength and tonight is close to championship starting team. Now can be debated is there a need to be starting so many seasoned campaigners at this time of year with loads of mileage on the clock but as i said in page 1 of this thread time is running out for the older players to win national title.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 26, 2019, 03:11:00 PM
So if Mayo dont win a competition they are not taking it seriously, taking that into account what competitions have they taken seriously these last few years ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 26, 2019, 04:01:25 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on January 26, 2019, 02:06:36 PM
Im hearing Andy Moran is starting for the rhubarbs this evening, good to see them giving youth a chance 8)

In place of Who?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 26, 2019, 04:16:10 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 26, 2019, 04:01:25 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on January 26, 2019, 02:06:36 PM
Im hearing Andy Moran is starting for the rhubarbs this evening, good to see them giving youth a chance 8)

In place of Who?

Conor Diskin is the rumour. 

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Solo_run on January 26, 2019, 07:22:03 PM
Entertaining game so far Ros 0-5 Mayo 0-1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 26, 2019, 07:22:36 PM
20 mins played. Mayo 0-1 Roscommon 0-5. Dreadful weather conditions Roscommon have the strong wind in this half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: clarshack on January 26, 2019, 07:31:53 PM
 Donnie smith should be embarrassed there.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Solo_run on January 26, 2019, 07:32:58 PM
Quote from: clarshack on January 26, 2019, 07:31:53 PM
Donnie smith should be embarrassed there.

Very cynical
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Solo_run on January 26, 2019, 07:38:34 PM
Mayo 0-1(scored a free in 3rd minute)
Roscommon 0-5 (17 mins since last score/6 wides)

36mins
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 07:40:14 PM
Mayo are a horrible cynical side. Pulling and dragging.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on January 26, 2019, 07:41:37 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 07:40:14 PM
Mayo are a horrible cynical side. Pulling and dragging.

Lovely eye gouge by the Rossies
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 07:44:52 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 26, 2019, 07:45:41 PM
Rob Hennelly is an accident waiting to happen. Donie Smith deserves a serious ban for that, Higgins did well to hold his temper.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on January 26, 2019, 07:46:01 PM
Turns out Donie Smith is a big diver.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2019, 07:49:32 PM
Usual cynical old Connacht football.

I'd say Cunningham is trying to toughen up the Roscommon lads alright. He did the same with the Galway hurlers initially. But he probably didn't have in mind what Donie Smith did.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on January 26, 2019, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 07:44:52 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can't be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you've been shot)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 26, 2019, 07:51:12 PM
Awful night for football looks near impossible to score against that wind from play.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 07:53:35 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2019, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 07:44:52 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can't be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you've been shot)

It was a shite thing to do and no doubt will get an adequate ban.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: brianboru00 on January 26, 2019, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2019, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 07:44:52 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can't be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you've been shot)

Are you with eir sport?

Smith should have seen red 100% anf deserves a ban . But why did the tv slow mo that part of the incident and not the possible head butt ??
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on January 26, 2019, 07:56:24 PM
Expect mayo to make dog shite of the Rossies in second half with that wind.


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2019, 07:59:06 PM
The camera in the stand must have blown away. We're getting the pitch side camera for the 2nd half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on January 26, 2019, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: brianboru00 on January 26, 2019, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2019, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 07:44:52 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can't be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you've been shot)

Are you with eir sport?

Smith should have seen red 100% anf deserves a ban . But why did the tv slow mo that part of the incident and not the possible head butt ??

Showed it at half time and the (Dublin) analyst said there was nothing in it
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: brianboru00 on January 26, 2019, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2019, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: brianboru00 on January 26, 2019, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2019, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 07:44:52 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can't be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you've been shot)

Are you with eir sport?

Smith should have seen red 100% anf deserves a ban . But why did the tv slow mo that part of the incident and not the possible head butt ??

Showed it at half time and the (Dublin) analyst said there was nothing in it

Yes. Thats my point .
From what I saw it was a head butt. But it wasn t scrutinised . It absolutely should have been
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on January 26, 2019, 08:08:37 PM
Quote from: brianboru00 on January 26, 2019, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2019, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: brianboru00 on January 26, 2019, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2019, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 07:44:52 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can't be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you've been shot)

Are you with eir sport?

Smith should have seen red 100% anf deserves a ban . But why did the tv slow mo that part of the incident and not the possible head butt ??

Showed it at half time and the (Dublin) analyst said there was nothing in it

Yes. Thats my point .
From what I saw it was a head butt. But it wasn t scrutinised . It absolutely should have been

His pathetic dive in an attempt to get a man red carded should be scrutinised.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Solo_run on January 26, 2019, 08:16:26 PM
Donal Shine Eye gouge

https://gph.is/2RQor6J (https://gph.is/2RQor6J)

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 08:27:28 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on January 26, 2019, 08:16:26 PM
Donnie Shine Eye gouge

https://gph.is/2RQor6J (https://gph.is/2RQor6J)

Donnie Shine hasn't played in years
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Solo_run on January 26, 2019, 08:36:22 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/7NLy6guV1A8twSx8A0/giphy.gif
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2019, 08:37:00 PM
Roscommon needed a bigger lead at the break. The wind was getting progressively worse as the game went on. Expected result though. Mayo had not far off their strongest side out.

Classic January football.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 08:39:50 PM
Ref rode us too. 10 steps for Mayo goal. DOC not a nice fella.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on January 26, 2019, 08:41:59 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 08:39:50 PM
Ref rode us too. 10 steps for Mayo goal. DOC not a nice fella.

I didn't know it was April 1st
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on January 26, 2019, 08:46:46 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 08:39:50 PM
Ref rode us too. 10 steps for Mayo goal. DOC not a nice fella.

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Solo_run on January 26, 2019, 08:47:38 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/nzZbK3M/Capture.png) (https://ibb.co/zGjrt8V)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 26, 2019, 08:54:40 PM
Mayo had to win that one this evening. That takes a bit of pressure off staying in the Division.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 26, 2019, 08:59:04 PM
Couldn't have a worse night for a game of football. Just 1 point separated the sides in the end and Roscommon will be kicking themselves that they only managed 0-5 1st half with that very strong wind. Mayo will hardly care, wasn't pretty but they had the experience to grind out the win.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 26, 2019, 09:01:20 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 26, 2019, 08:08:37 PM
Quote from: brianboru00 on January 26, 2019, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2019, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: brianboru00 on January 26, 2019, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2019, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 07:44:52 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can't be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you've been shot)

Are you with eir sport?

Smith should have seen red 100% anf deserves a ban . But why did the tv slow mo that part of the incident and not the possible head butt ??

Showed it at half time and the (Dublin) analyst said there was nothing in it

Yes. Thats my point .
From what I saw it was a head butt. But it wasn t scrutinised . It absolutely should have been

His pathetic dive in an attempt to get a man red carded should be scrutinised.
Judging by his face clutching and pathetic dive you'd swear he just had his hair lightly ruffled.

Apart from that I thought the  Rossies were more hard done by the ref, who turned a blind eye to foot blocks, dragging etc inflicted against them  and seemed to concede to every physicality inflicted against Mayo
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: cornetto on January 26, 2019, 09:11:12 PM
Were people able to stream eir sport tonight?
Tried mobdro and firstone TV to no avail. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 26, 2019, 09:13:16 PM
I could stream it fine using vaders iptv.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: brianboru00 on January 26, 2019, 09:31:43 PM
Probably a fair result . Roscommon far closer to mayo than two years ago at the same venue and similar conditions.  AC can take credit for that with far more organisation particularly in defence. .
How much of that closeness is mayo going back v ros going torward is another matter .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 26, 2019, 09:35:36 PM
Just in, and changed and slightly warmed up. The only thing that can be got from that game was the 2 points which Mayo will be happy to take. Terrible game in horrendous conditions.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oliverkelly on January 26, 2019, 09:44:13 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 26, 2019, 09:01:20 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 26, 2019, 08:08:37 PM
Quote from: brianboru00 on January 26, 2019, 08:05:25 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2019, 08:00:03 PM
Quote from: brianboru00 on January 26, 2019, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2019, 07:49:57 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 07:44:52 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can't be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you've been shot)

Are you with eir sport?

Smith should have seen red 100% anf deserves a ban . But why did the tv slow mo that part of the incident and not the possible head butt ??

Showed it at half time and the (Dublin) analyst said there was nothing in it

Yes. Thats my point .
From what I saw it was a head butt. But it wasn t scrutinised . It absolutely should have been

His pathetic dive in an attempt to get a man red carded should be scrutinised.
Judging by his face clutching and pathetic dive you'd swear he just had his hair lightly ruffled.

Apart from that I thought the  Rossies were more hard done by the ref, who turned a blind eye to foot blocks, dragging etc inflicted against them  and seemed to concede to every physicality inflicted against Mayo

Ref was a disgrace rode roscommon for 70 minutes. Donie smith should be banned for the eye gouge cant be at that. N
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: SCFC on January 26, 2019, 10:25:03 PM
How many steps did Reape take for his goal? 10, 12? Refs keep missing that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 26, 2019, 10:27:30 PM
Quote from: SCFC on January 26, 2019, 10:25:03 PM
How many steps did Reape take for his goal? 10, 12? Refs keep missing that.
Ah, but the forward has to get the advantage
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 26, 2019, 10:30:07 PM
Considering the team that mayo had out i think Roscommon will be very happy.
Mayo are worth at least 5/6 home town calls by the ref in most games
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oliverkelly on January 26, 2019, 10:32:35 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 26, 2019, 10:27:30 PM
Quote from: SCFC on January 26, 2019, 10:25:03 PM
How many steps did Reape take for his goal? 10, 12? Refs keep missing that.
Ah, but the forward has to get the advantage
Advantage?? What the f you on about? He wasnt fouled took about 10 steps and scored a peach of a goal. Should have been a free out for over carrying. But cassidy has been a disgrace any game he has done involving Roscommon last few years. Mayo got frees for nothing the whole game was embarrassing one sided by the clown
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 26, 2019, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: brianboru00 on January 26, 2019, 09:31:43 PM
Probably a fair result . Roscommon far closer to mayo than two years ago at the same venue and similar conditions.  AC can take credit for that with far more organisation particularly in defence. .
How much of that closeness is mayo going back v ros going torward is another matter .
I don't think either side did enough to deserve a win tonight, the Reape goal was decisive and it could easily have been pulled up for steps. The 2011 Connacht final was a similar match played in similar conditions and Mayo kicked on after that win.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: JoG2 on January 26, 2019, 10:47:27 PM
Huge credit to both teams for a serious battle in attrocious conditions, conditions which make the game a bit of a lottery. Its funny reading posts and the sheer bias for or against a certain county is plain to see. The ref didn't overly 'ride' either team imo. Both teams were cynical at times, players from both over carried at times etc etc...,

Is there a specific ban for an eye gouge does anyone know? D Smith deserves a very hefty ban for that carryon, nasty.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 26, 2019, 11:00:56 PM
Back to more serious matters, much more serious than a mere eye gouge. The Dubs will be  landing in a nearby Clones airfield on Sunday midday (in some drumlin free location)  to resume hostilities with Monaghan. Dubs manager Gavin has picked his strongest available team, such is his desperation not to get beaten by Monaghan yet again.
It's hard to tell where Monaghan are at right now, if the Tyrone McKenna cup is anything to go by then they're in for a hiding, but on the other hand it's hard to imagine that the Monaghan players  will not be xxx motivated.  McManus is named as a sub, however that does not mean he will not start.  I'll back Monaghan regardless, follow proceedings on TG4.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oliverkelly on January 26, 2019, 11:06:58 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 26, 2019, 10:47:27 PM
Huge credit to both teams for a serious battle in attrocious conditions, conditions which make the game a bit of a lottery. Its funny reading posts and the sheer bias for or against a certain county is plain to see. The ref didn't overly 'ride' either team imo. Both teams were cynical at times, players from both over carried at times etc etc...,

Is there a specific ban for an eye gouge does anyone know? D Smith deserves a very hefty ban for that carryon, nasty.
Dont know what game you were observing if you think ref made bade decisions for both sides that wasnt the case what so ever one side clearly got a helping hand by the ref.
On the gouging deserves a long ban not a nice action but similar imcidents like donaghy and mcmahon got off for simular incidents so be interesting see the outcome during the week
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 26, 2019, 11:23:12 PM
Great goal by Reape, especially with the Roscommon Messi hanging out of him.

Awful conditions, really awful, hard to describe how bad
The final score certainly gave it a gloss for Roscommon that wasn't there in person, they are headed straight down if this is anything to go by.
First half they had nobody to shoot from distance like Doc did in the second half. Smith missed some awful handy frees when there were other lads looking to take them.
Mayo won the game in two spells, the first in the first half when they held the ball for a solid five minutes, great skill in awful conditions. Without ever threatening to score keeping the ball was enough.
For 10 minutes in the second half they swarmed the middle, won dirty ball and got the scores to go ahead.

The eye gouge may not have been intentional. There's certainly a case for that.

Not sure what match the rossies on here were watching, maybe it looked different on the telly
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 26, 2019, 11:38:13 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 26, 2019, 11:23:12 PM
Great goal by Reape, especially with the Roscommon Messi hanging out of him.

Awful conditions, really awful, hard to describe how bad
The final score certainly gave it a gloss for Roscommon that wasn't there in person, they are headed straight down if this is anything to go by.
First half they had nobody to shoot from distance like Doc did in the second half. Smith missed some awful handy frees when there were other lads looking to take them.
Mayo won the game in two spells, the first in the first half when they held the ball for a solid five minutes, great skill in awful conditions. Without ever threatening to score keeping the ball was enough.
For 10 minutes in the second half they swarmed the middle, won dirty ball and got the scores to go ahead.

The eye gouge may not have been intentional. There's certainly a case for that.

Not sure what match the rossies on here were watching, maybe it looked different on the telly
I recall at least two of their first half scores as long distance ones however only scoring 5 times from 14 attempts 1st half proved costly not to mention the open goal chance kicked wide.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on January 27, 2019, 10:49:09 AM
Good competitive tough game in absolutely appalling conditions.
Mayowestros were better at scoring than we were :o which was the deciding factor.
Mind you it also helped that they had the vast majority of the possession.
Our new found meanness and hardness got another outing as did our new defensive organised game plan.
I believe we only had 4 of the Connacht Final team on duty yet we still put it up to them and lost due to an appallingly illegal goal -15 steps, 20.....?

While the supporters may feel positive enough with the attitude and performance no doubt management will be looking at the many things we got wrong and will set about righting them.
Which is what management is all about.


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on January 27, 2019, 11:13:39 AM
10 steps allowed for mayo players
Considering the strength of the two teams I would have thought mayo would win that easier
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 27, 2019, 12:12:34 PM
There were a number of times Roscommon players took more than 4 steps last night too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on January 27, 2019, 12:42:55 PM
Most players of all teams do but that episode leading to the goal was appalling.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 27, 2019, 12:43:10 PM
No comment from the rossies on yer wing forwards constant, and I mean constant, provoking of Keegan for the nite? Maybe if he spent time playing even a little bit of football ye'd do better.
I'm sure Rudi or some other lad will come back with "well there was two of them at it", there wasn't, it was him solidly for the first half trying to get a rise out of Keegan, right in front of the linesman too. If Keegan has reacted the same linesman would have been straight up with the flag
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on January 27, 2019, 01:06:23 PM
Arrah Boo Hoo .
I suspect Keegan has had much worse to deal with in training.
And how many times did "Leroy" turn round and keep pushing little Kilroy in the chest".
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 27, 2019, 01:13:25 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 27, 2019, 01:06:23 PM
Arrah Boo Hoo .
I suspect Keegan has had much worse to deal with in training.
And how many times did "Leroy" turn round and keep pushing little Kilroy in the chest".

;D he was trying to push the little buckeen out of the way.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on January 27, 2019, 01:42:56 PM
No changes to the Monaghan team, very unlike Malachy. I definitely expected McManus to come in anyway, big day for the younger forwards like Bannigan and Garland to step up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: SouthDublinBro on January 27, 2019, 02:15:02 PM
Quality goal. There will be a few red cards for the Monaghan boys today if Mcgoldrick does his job properly.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2019, 02:33:27 PM
Brutal refereeing
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 27, 2019, 02:40:43 PM
Good open game of football the ref not having his best of games but at least he is letting it flow.  HT Monaghan 0-8 Dublin 1-7
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on January 27, 2019, 02:50:37 PM
Both black cards very harsh. Not deliberate pull downs, so yellow was appropriate colour.
Although I would have allowed the McCarron goal.
Monaghan did very well to get right back into the game after a very good opening quarter from the Dubs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 27, 2019, 02:56:56 PM
Paudie Hughes on for the second half!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on January 27, 2019, 02:58:50 PM
Decent game for it being the first round and a good few players missing. A bit of bite about it and both sides are up for the fight. I've no problem with that at all, even if Coldrick isn't having his best showing.

I really feared for Monaghan when I seen there'd be no changes and seeing the start we made against a sharp Dubs side. A few inexperienced lads looked a little lost and the more experienced lads looked rusty and were making sloppy mistakes. But they've grown into the game more and that's not a bad score at HT at all. Tasty second half in store
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 27, 2019, 03:08:19 PM
Cracking goal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: yellowcard on January 27, 2019, 03:09:20 PM
That was some goal by the Monaghan sub.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 27, 2019, 03:10:58 PM
A lot of changes to the Galway team. A surprise that Corofin players are playing. Half time Galway 0-5 Cavan 0-5
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx7K6vkXcAY4aXP.jpg:large
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 27, 2019, 03:12:13 PM
Oh look, another goal

Even though he threw it in
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on January 27, 2019, 03:15:37 PM
Serious impact off the bench from McManus and O'Hanlon. No surprise with McManus of course, but great to see O'Hanlon doing so well immediately on his league debut. He had a cracking season for the club last year and alot of people were excited to see how he'd do when called up for the county.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: yellowcard on January 27, 2019, 03:24:44 PM
O'Hanlon has had some impact, looks a very direct player just goes straight for goal similar in style to David Clifford.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Godsown on January 27, 2019, 03:30:08 PM
Coldrick had nightmare 1st half . Did Gavin sub him at half time?  Hughes even worse in second half
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2019, 03:32:32 PM
Johnny Cooper can be a bit of a thug at times. Hard to like him.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2019, 03:35:59 PM
 ;D Pretty much yeah.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on January 27, 2019, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 27, 2019, 03:32:32 PM
Johnny Cooper can be a bit of a thug at times. Hard to like him.

McManus putting him on his hole after they tangled might be the best thing that happened today!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: lenny on January 27, 2019, 03:41:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 27, 2019, 03:32:32 PM
Johnny Cooper can be a bit of a thug at times. Hard to like him.

Used to really like watching jack mccarron but he let himself down today with a few pieces of blatant playacting.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 27, 2019, 03:41:35 PM
Quote from: Godsown on January 27, 2019, 03:30:08 PM
Coldrick had nightmare 1st half . Did Gavin sub him at half time?  Hughes even worse in second half

Hughes seemed to have no notion of the Advantage rule.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2019, 03:41:43 PM
Yeah though I thought I might have got a black card for that. Cooper notorious for that - it's what he goaded Seamus o'shea into in the ai final.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: yellowcard on January 27, 2019, 03:42:24 PM
Good win for Monaghan, I think they are realistic AI contenders. Dublin were well outplayed today apart from the first 15 minutes, they don't lose too many games so it is a big feather in Monaghans cap to beat them in consecutive League campaigns.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 27, 2019, 03:43:19 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on January 27, 2019, 03:42:24 PM
Good win for Monaghan, I think they are realistic AI contenders. Dublin were well outplayed today apart from the first 15 minutes, they don't lose too many games so it is a big feather in Monaghans cap to beat them in consecutive League campaigns.

;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: joemamas on January 27, 2019, 03:44:35 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 27, 2019, 03:41:35 PM
Quote from: Godsown on January 27, 2019, 03:30:08 PM
Coldrick had nightmare 1st half . Did Gavin sub him at half time?  Hughes even worse in second half

Hughes seemed to have no notion of the Advantage rule.

He is a shit refereee, and to make it worse he needs to be the center of attention.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 27, 2019, 03:45:24 PM
Well done Monaghan. Beating Dublin is becoming a habit for Monaghan.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 27, 2019, 04:06:43 PM
Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11 FT
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 27, 2019, 04:07:26 PM
Galway kick on at the end. They spent long enough doing the apprenticeship

A good shtart

Calling Mouview


67 mins Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-08

Shane Walsh extends Galway's lead to five at Pearse Stadium.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: shantygael on January 27, 2019, 04:07:33 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 27, 2019, 03:45:24 PM
Well done Monaghan. Beating Dublin is becoming a habit for Monaghan.
At the wrong end of the season
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 27, 2019, 04:08:29 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on January 27, 2019, 04:11:27 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 27, 2019, 04:08:29 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.
Decent win all things considered and could be an important 2 points.
Into the lions den now next week and you'd imagine Burke & Silke won't be allowed play so it will be a weaker side than today.
Was happy to see Podge Cunningham get a start.
Working today so could only follow it on twitter from time to time but talking to a friend it seems he did reasonably well.
2 points from play and drew a few frees.
Hopefully he'll see more action over the next few weeks.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 27, 2019, 04:38:13 PM
Quote from: galwayman on January 27, 2019, 04:11:27 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 27, 2019, 04:08:29 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.
Decent win all things considered and could be an important 2 points.
Into the lions den now next week and you'd imagine Burke & Silke won't be allowed play so it will be a weaker side than today.
Was happy to see Podge Cunningham get a start.
Working today so could only follow it on twitter from time to time but talking to a friend it seems he did reasonably well.
2 points from play and drew a few frees.
Hopefully he'll see more action over the next few weeks.
Cavan only scored once between 48 and 67 mins
They are not as cute as Galway yet but they did well otherwise.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 27, 2019, 04:44:55 PM
 The Dubs were too fast to up the physicalities in the middle of the first half considering they were already  6 points ahead and strolling it, the main effect of that was to wake up Monaghan from a slumber. Monaghan's discipline was good in response, didn't back down, met the physical challenge  and started to play football.  Though it was out of character for the Dubs to fizzle out in the last 1/4, a beaten team.

Jack McCarron had a very good game, he has grown in stature, an immense presence in the 2nd half,  of course O'Hanlon's league debut was spectacular.
And yeah that touch of class from McManus in felling Johnny Cooper,  an early contender for the best value yellow card of the year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 27, 2019, 06:28:39 PM
Second Monaghan Goal looked like a Joe Sheridan effort. Monaghan player clearly held the ball and then palmed it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on January 27, 2019, 06:43:58 PM
No more than the overcarrying they all do that with the 2 handed "push".
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Boycey on January 27, 2019, 06:54:18 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 27, 2019, 06:28:39 PM
Second Monaghan Goal looked like a Joe Sheridan effort. Monaghan player clearly held the ball and then palmed it.

I was at match and didn't see anything wrong he in real time and granted it was only a tweet I've seen on my phone since but didn't look like it on that either. Interesting to see people on here giving out about both refs, at the match I thought both did reasonably ok. In January conditions allowances are sometimes made.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: twohands!!! on January 27, 2019, 07:25:34 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 27, 2019, 06:54:18 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 27, 2019, 06:28:39 PM
Second Monaghan Goal looked like a Joe Sheridan effort. Monaghan player clearly held the ball and then palmed it.

I was at match and didn't see anything wrong he in real time and granted it was only a tweet I've seen on my phone since but didn't look like it on that either. Interesting to see people on here giving out about both refs, at the match I thought both did reasonably ok. In January conditions allowances are sometimes made.

Have to remember that the refs are often blowing out the dirty diesel at this time of year as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on January 27, 2019, 07:56:41 PM
Expect Donie Smith to be banned for two games and Keith Higgins for one. Gas to see mayo fans reaction to Smith on social media. You have the O'Connor brothers last 3 years smashing opposition players with elbows and closed fists and nothing said about that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 27, 2019, 07:56:57 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 25, 2019, 09:03:45 PM
Predictions?

Mayo and Ros to draw.
Kerry to beat Tyrone.
Galway to struggle past Cavan.
Monaghan to beat the Dubs.

3 outta 4 ain't bad. Bonus to have got the first one wrong.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:04:57 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 27, 2019, 04:08:29 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.

Cavan also had a goal chance in 1st half but  made a mess of it.

Referree deserve a mention, atrocious. Two of Cavans blacks were terrible calls. Galway also should have seen red for a forearm challenge on Cavan midfielder. Galway were much improved in the 2nd half. Cavan fitness looked way off where it needs to be too. I think Galway will struggle against the better teams and I am afraid I will have to re-assess our chances as I struggle to see us win against anyone after watching that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 27, 2019, 08:18:15 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 27, 2019, 07:56:57 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 25, 2019, 09:03:45 PM
Predictions?

Mayo and Ros to draw.
Kerry to beat Tyrone.
Galway to struggle past Cavan.
Monaghan to beat the Dubs.

3 outta 4 ain't bad. Bonus to have got the first one wrong.
Sometimes it's okay to blow your trumpet,  but did Galway really struggle? :)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: tonto1888 on January 27, 2019, 08:20:03 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 27, 2019, 06:54:18 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 27, 2019, 06:28:39 PM
Second Monaghan Goal looked like a Joe Sheridan effort. Monaghan player clearly held the ball and then palmed it.

I was at match and didn't see anything wrong he in real time and granted it was only a tweet I've seen on my phone since but didn't look like it on that either. Interesting to see people on here giving out about both refs, at the match I thought both did reasonably ok. In January conditions allowances are sometimes made.

Was hard to tell on tele but you'd give him the benefit of the doubt
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on January 27, 2019, 08:24:44 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:04:57 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 27, 2019, 04:08:29 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.

Cavan also had a goal chance in 1st half but  made a mess of it.

Referree deserve a mention, atrocious. Two of Cavans blacks were terrible calls. Galway also should have seen red for a forearm challenge on Cavan midfielder. Galway were much improved in the 2nd half. Cavan fitness looked way off where it needs to be too. I think Galway will struggle against the better teams and I am afraid I will have to re-assess our chances as I struggle to see us win against anyone after watching that.

The ref was atrocious but not sure how a Cavan person could see him in a negative light given the string of ridiculous calls in the first half giving Cavan scoreable frees. Shafted Galway until the half. 2 black cards were for tit for tat messing, one to either player, so which black cards did you have issue with? Surely not the one to your midfielder taking Shane Walsh out off the ball? The one for the contested catch was on the harsh side alright. Galway had a fairly legitimate penalty claim denied late on
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:25:39 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan's win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what's going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 27, 2019, 08:34:07 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:25:39 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan's win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what's going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.
Cooper trying his normal dirty tactics to take out the opposition's marquee player
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: twohands!!! on January 27, 2019, 08:35:00 PM
Quote from: TheMaster on January 27, 2019, 07:56:41 PM
Expect Donie Smith to be banned for two games and Keith Higgins for one. Gas to see mayo fans reaction to Smith on social media. You have the O'Connor brothers last 3 years smashing opposition players with elbows and closed fists and nothing said about that.

If he has any sort of competent defence team they will simply submit footage of McMahon's eye-gouging of Donaghy and the fact that he got a one game ban.

I just looked at the footage from McMahon's incident again and his hand being around Donaghy eyes was even more blatant in the footage.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:37:13 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on January 27, 2019, 08:24:44 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:04:57 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 27, 2019, 04:08:29 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.

Cavan also had a goal chance in 1st half but  made a mess of it.

Referree deserve a mention, atrocious. Two of Cavans blacks were terrible calls. Galway also should have seen red for a forearm challenge on Cavan midfielder. Galway were much improved in the 2nd half. Cavan fitness looked way off where it needs to be too. I think Galway will struggle against the better teams and I am afraid I will have to re-assess our chances as I struggle to see us win against anyone after watching that.

The ref was atrocious but not sure how a Cavan person could see him in a negative light given the string of ridiculous calls in the first half giving Cavan scoreable frees. Shafted Galway until the half. 2 black cards were for tit for tat messing, one to either player, so which black cards did you have issue with? Surely not the one to your midfielder taking Shane Walsh out off the ball? The one for the contested catch was on the harsh side alright. Galway had a fairly legitimate penalty claim denied late on

Black card 1 - Galway player trips cavan man in front of ref with his hand. Stone wall black.

Black card 2- Galway player puts ball over Martin Reilly and intentionally runs into him and jumps on ground roaring. Not a black card but maybe replay will change my view.

Black card 3 and 4 - cavan and Galway player jostling and pulling off the ball, cavan player tries to run away and is tripped. Definite blsck card for galway player, no black card offense committed by cavan player but if the jostling was an issue it should have been a yellow.

Black card no 5- definite black to cavan player.

Peno was not a peno and you are not allowed pull jerseys, even in salthill so that's where the frees came from.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on January 27, 2019, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:25:39 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan's win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what's going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I thought McCarron's yellow should have been a straight red and McManus should have been black carded.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:52:40 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on January 27, 2019, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:25:39 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan's win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what's going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I thought McCarron's yellow should have been a straight red and McManus should have been black carded.

McCarron's was accidental I felt. And in fact should've been a Monaghan free rather than a Dublin one, but the Dublin players theatrics conned a very weak ref.
McManus was 100% in the right. Cooper initiated that wrestling match he should have been ordered off. As I said both officials very sympathetic to Dublin.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 27, 2019, 08:57:50 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on January 27, 2019, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:25:39 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan's win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what's going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I thought McCarron's yellow should have been a straight red and McManus should have been black carded.
Under what part of the rule should McManus have been black carded? He tripped up an opponent away from the action in a "tete la tete" confrontation. That's a yellow card offence. You  need to acquaint yourself better with the rules
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on January 27, 2019, 09:14:50 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:25:39 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan's win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what's going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I can understand that you might find it difficult to be gracious in defeat, but surely you could manage to be gracious in victory.  ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on January 27, 2019, 09:17:27 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:52:40 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on January 27, 2019, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:25:39 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan's win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what's going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I thought McCarron's yellow should have been a straight red and McManus should have been black carded.

McCarron's was accidental I felt. And in fact should've been a Monaghan free rather than a Dublin one, but the Dublin players theatrics conned a very weak ref.
McManus was 100% in the right. Cooper initiated that wrestling match he should have been ordered off. As I said both officials very sympathetic to Dublin.

Christ you're bitter when it comes to Dublin. Scully gets taken out and you want a free to Monaghan!!!

Dublin's lack of fitness told in the 2nd half and playing with 14 men for 20 minutes told as well. Should bring them on a long way for Galway next week. McCarron played well, but he ran riot 2 years ago as well in Clones against the dubs and did nothing come championship. Needs to do it more consistently
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: trailer on January 27, 2019, 09:17:59 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on January 27, 2019, 09:14:50 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:25:39 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan's win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what's going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I can understand that you might find it difficult to be gracious in defeat, but surely you could manage to be gracious in victory.  ::)

Sorry. I'm actually a neutral.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: greatpoint on January 27, 2019, 09:19:42 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 27, 2019, 08:57:50 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on January 27, 2019, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:25:39 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan's win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what's going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I thought McCarron's yellow should have been a straight red and McManus should have been black carded.
Under what part of the rule should McManus have been black carded? He tripped up an opponent away from the action in a "tete la tete" confrontation. That's a yellow card offence. You  need to acquaint yourself better with the rules

A head the head confrontation?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on January 27, 2019, 09:22:35 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 09:17:59 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on January 27, 2019, 09:14:50 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:25:39 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan's win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what's going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I can understand that you might find it difficult to be gracious in defeat, but surely you could manage to be gracious in victory.  ::)

Sorry. I'm actually a neutral.

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on January 27, 2019, 09:23:05 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 09:17:59 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on January 27, 2019, 09:14:50 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:25:39 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan's win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what's going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I can understand that you might find it difficult to be gracious in defeat, but surely you could manage to be gracious in victory.  ::)

Sorry. I'm actually a neutral.

Apologies - I'd never have thought it.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on January 27, 2019, 09:24:03 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on January 27, 2019, 08:35:00 PM
Quote from: TheMaster on January 27, 2019, 07:56:41 PM
Expect Donie Smith to be banned for two games and Keith Higgins for one. Gas to see mayo fans reaction to Smith on social media. You have the O'Connor brothers last 3 years smashing opposition players with elbows and closed fists and nothing said about that.

If he has any sort of competent defence team they will simply submit footage of McMahon's eye-gouging of Donaghy and the fact that he got a one game ban.

I just looked at the footage from McMahon's incident again and his hand being around Donaghy eyes was even more blatant in the footage.

McMahon should got 6 months
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on January 27, 2019, 09:31:01 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 27, 2019, 09:17:27 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:52:40 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on January 27, 2019, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:25:39 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan's win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what's going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I thought McCarron's yellow should have been a straight red and McManus should have been black carded.

McCarron's was accidental I felt. And in fact should've been a Monaghan free rather than a Dublin one, but the Dublin players theatrics conned a very weak ref.
McManus was 100% in the right. Cooper initiated that wrestling match he should have been ordered off. As I said both officials very sympathetic to Dublin.

Christ you're bitter when it comes to Dublin. Scully gets taken out and you want a free to Monaghan!!!

Dublin's lack of fitness told in the 2nd half and playing with 14 men for 20 minutes told as well. Should bring them on a long way for Galway next week. McCarron played well, but he ran riot 2 years ago as well in Clones against the dubs and did nothing come championship. Needs to do it more consistently

Though wylie was the best player on the pitch. Lots of bad decisions both ways I thought. Just before mcmanus cooper incident cooper had both arms around him but no free ? Monaghan's 2nd goal looked dodgy. Scully had a sneaky push for his goal. Not mad about the new mark rule but i'll give it a few games before deciding if i like it or not. 2 good teams and both short starters.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 27, 2019, 09:31:47 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on January 27, 2019, 09:19:42 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 27, 2019, 08:57:50 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on January 27, 2019, 08:45:44 PM
Quote from: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:25:39 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan's win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what's going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I thought McCarron's yellow should have been a straight red and McManus should have been black carded.
Under what part of the rule should McManus have been black carded? He tripped up an opponent away from the action in a "tete la tete" confrontation. That's a yellow card offence. You  need to acquaint yourself better with the rules

A head the head confrontation?
No smart ass,  a private conversation.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: tonto1888 on January 27, 2019, 10:05:41 PM
Regarding McManus I think the yellow was the right decision. However, could you imagine the uproar if cooper had have tripped him in the same way?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2019, 10:13:21 PM
McManus couldn't have got cooper off him without doing that though. Same wouldn't have happened the other way.

The letter of the law is a trip is a black card which is why McManus was lucky to avoid a card. Cooper has goaded people into this before. Unless I am mistaken and where the play is is relevant but I didn't think so?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 27, 2019, 10:16:18 PM
Get rid of the Black card - All Black and Yellow cards should be Yellow card offences and 10 minutes in the Sin Bin! Cuts out all this Bullshit Grey area between the two!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2019, 10:58:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 27, 2019, 10:13:21 PM
McManus couldn't have got cooper off him without doing that though. Same wouldn't have happened the other way.

The letter of the law is a trip is a black card which is why McManus was lucky to avoid a card. Cooper has goaded people into this before. Unless I am mistaken and where the play is is relevant but I didn't think so?

Makes no difference where the trip is, if someone deliberately pulls down trips or up ends an player it's a black card..
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Ball Hopper on January 27, 2019, 11:16:44 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2019, 10:58:26 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 27, 2019, 10:13:21 PM
McManus couldn't have got cooper off him without doing that though. Same wouldn't have happened the other way.

The letter of the law is a trip is a black card which is why McManus was lucky to avoid a card. Cooper has goaded people into this before. Unless I am mistaken and where the play is is relevant but I didn't think so?

Makes no difference where the trip is, if someone deliberately pulls down trips or up ends an player it's a black card..

Not so sure about that one...
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 27, 2019, 11:24:31 PM
In relation to a black card offence, it's blatantly obvious that it matters where the infraction takes place. McManus upending a player on the ball, versus a provoked McManus upending a player away from the action is not the same officiating scenario in the GAA. Both Cooper and McManus were involved in an off the ball incident, a tumble in the grass. If the ref deemed it serious enough, it was either a yellow or red card offence. The ref dealt with the incident appropriately and in accordance with the rules.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyCake on January 27, 2019, 11:33:45 PM
Roscommon's Smith should get a year for that eye gouging.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 27, 2019, 11:50:33 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 27, 2019, 11:33:45 PM
Roscommon's Smith should get a year for that eye gouging.

Doubt it, after all there was no year bans for James McCarthy or Philly McMahon for similar eye gouging incidents.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 28, 2019, 12:13:25 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:37:13 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on January 27, 2019, 08:24:44 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:04:57 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 27, 2019, 04:08:29 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.

Cavan also had a goal chance in 1st half but  made a mess of it.

Referree deserve a mention, atrocious. Two of Cavans blacks were terrible calls. Galway also should have seen red for a forearm challenge on Cavan midfielder. Galway were much improved in the 2nd half. Cavan fitness looked way off where it needs to be too. I think Galway will struggle against the better teams and I am afraid I will have to re-assess our chances as I struggle to see us win against anyone after watching that.

The ref was atrocious but not sure how a Cavan person could see him in a negative light given the string of ridiculous calls in the first half giving Cavan scoreable frees. Shafted Galway until the half. 2 black cards were for tit for tat messing, one to either player, so which black cards did you have issue with? Surely not the one to your midfielder taking Shane Walsh out off the ball? The one for the contested catch was on the harsh side alright. Galway had a fairly legitimate penalty claim denied late on

Black card 1 - Galway player trips cavan man in front of ref with his hand. Stone wall black.

Black card 2- Galway player puts ball over Martin Reilly and intentionally runs into him and jumps on ground roaring. Not a black card but maybe replay will change my view.

Black card 3 and 4 - cavan and Galway player jostling and pulling off the ball, cavan player tries to run away and is tripped. Definite blsck card for galway player, no black card offense committed by cavan player but if the jostling was an issue it should have been a yellow.

Black card no 5- definite black to cavan player.

Peno was not a peno and you are not allowed pull jerseys, even in salthill so that's where the frees came from.

Just on the black cards, McDaid got a fully deserved one, and it was a stupid one to get as Galway were on the attack on the other side of the pitch, instead it resulted in a throw ball that Cavan won and Galway a man down for nothing. At least some of the Cavan cards were taking an attacking player out of it. Duggan got a yellow but it wasn't a black card offence, could have been a red.
Cavan could have easily have got another black card for a deliberate trip in the first half but it would be foolish to point to the black cards as the decisive factor in this match, Galway didn't exactly rack up the scores during the time when Cavan were down by one or two men, while Cavan had the man advantage after McDaid got the line for 10 minutes at the start of the second half and did nothing much with it.
Aside from not moving into a dominant position with the man advantage at the start of the second half where Cavan really torpedoed themselves was in the first 25 minutes when they were the better team out there, they had numerous chances to push themselves even further than 3 ahead but hit some dodgy wides and also in the first half had a few very poor free attempts, some them should really have been gimmes at this level.

Galway were very slow out of the blocks and poor in general in the first half. Some of the inaccurate aimless ball played into the FF line was hard to fathom, even Galway's top players like Burke and Walsh weren't immune to some hospital passes.

McDaid really looked a lad who had been away from top level football for a while, one good run in the first half but ended up going straight into traffic, his black card was a poor one to get but there's a lesson there for all Galway players in terms of when to take a black card. Overall didn't really get into the game but he's a big unit now compared to his U21 days and his ability at that level was unquestionable.

Sean Andy was unusually tentative on a number of high balls that he was really the favourite for, didn't cleanly catch or break it out where he wanted it to go. Nothing major happened as a result but against better opposition it could be a problem, something to watch as the league moves forward particularly with the defensive mark in play.

Bradshaw played well and the Galway turnaround began shortly after he was introduced which I don't think was a coincidence.

Flynn has turned into a much more consistent presence on the pitch compared to a few years ago, he turned it around last summer and I hope that he maintains that level into the rest of 2019. Cooke had a decent match without doing anything spectacular.

Heaney and Kelly played fairly well although Heaney should have buried his goal chance. Shane Walsh is going to get some more lads black carded with his direct running, if he's gone past it's either let him go or foul, there's no catching him.

I liked what I saw from Cunningham, deceptively quick and he got into some great positions. He fluffed a very easy point chance in the first half and really should have stuck his goal chance in the second but that bit more composure required will hopefully come with more game time moving forward. He's the type of player that Galway need to put the hand up this league campaign.

I assume that the Corofin lads will be gone for the duration of the club championship after yesterday but it was good to see them out there today, Silke will add a lot to that team this year, very steady.

Overall Galway were pedestrian enough even when they got going in the match but it was a game they ground out, once they got 3 points up I thought it was pretty much over as a contest. Cavan got the last 3 points and Galway didn't look great trying to see the match out in injury time truth be told. Galway tried a couple of killer passes to setup goals in the second half, none of which came off, given the way the match was playing out they would have been better off just sticking the ball over the bar.

McKiernan is clearly a big loss for Cavan at the moment but based on what I saw today Cavan will struggle to stay up unless they bring something very different or improve greatly in the subsequent league rounds.
It might be no different for ourselves in the long run but we've at least got the first must win game in the bag, it's a free shot match against the Dubs away next Saturday, anything out of it will be a very unexpected bonus.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: NetNitrate on January 28, 2019, 01:25:35 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 27, 2019, 11:50:33 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 27, 2019, 11:33:45 PM
Roscommon's Smith should get a year for that eye gouging.

Doubt it, after all there was no year bans for James McCarthy or Philly McMahon for similar eye gouging incidents.

You are forgetting about the unwritten GAA rule:
"If it's a smaller GAA county, be sure to make an example of them."
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on January 28, 2019, 03:46:51 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on January 28, 2019, 12:13:25 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:37:13 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on January 27, 2019, 08:24:44 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:04:57 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 27, 2019, 04:08:29 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.

Cavan also had a goal chance in 1st half but  made a mess of it.

Referree deserve a mention, atrocious. Two of Cavans blacks were terrible calls. Galway also should have seen red for a forearm challenge on Cavan midfielder. Galway were much improved in the 2nd half. Cavan fitness looked way off where it needs to be too. I think Galway will struggle against the better teams and I am afraid I will have to re-assess our chances as I struggle to see us win against anyone after watching that.

The ref was atrocious but not sure how a Cavan person could see him in a negative light given the string of ridiculous calls in the first half giving Cavan scoreable frees. Shafted Galway until the half. 2 black cards were for tit for tat messing, one to either player, so which black cards did you have issue with? Surely not the one to your midfielder taking Shane Walsh out off the ball? The one for the contested catch was on the harsh side alright. Galway had a fairly legitimate penalty claim denied late on

Black card 1 - Galway player trips cavan man in front of ref with his hand. Stone wall black.

Black card 2- Galway player puts ball over Martin Reilly and intentionally runs into him and jumps on ground roaring. Not a black card but maybe replay will change my view.

Black card 3 and 4 - cavan and Galway player jostling and pulling off the ball, cavan player tries to run away and is tripped. Definite blsck card for galway player, no black card offense committed by cavan player but if the jostling was an issue it should have been a yellow.

Black card no 5- definite black to cavan player.

Peno was not a peno and you are not allowed pull jerseys, even in salthill so that's where the frees came from.

Just on the black cards, McDaid got a fully deserved one, and it was a stupid one to get as Galway were on the attack on the other side of the pitch, instead it resulted in a throw ball that Cavan won and Galway a man down for nothing. At least some of the Cavan cards were taking an attacking player out of it. Duggan got a yellow but it wasn't a black card offence, could have been a red.
Cavan could have easily have got another black card for a deliberate trip in the first half but it would be foolish to point to the black cards as the decisive factor in this match, Galway didn't exactly rack up the scores during the time when Cavan were down by one or two men, while Cavan had the man advantage after McDaid got the line for 10 minutes at the start of the second half and did nothing much with it.
Aside from not moving into a dominant position with the man advantage at the start of the second half where Cavan really torpedoed themselves was in the first 25 minutes when they were the better team out there, they had numerous chances to push themselves even further than 3 ahead but hit some dodgy wides and also in the first half had a few very poor free attempts, some them should really have been gimmes at this level.

Galway were very slow out of the blocks and poor in general in the first half. Some of the inaccurate aimless ball played into the FF line was hard to fathom, even Galway's top players like Burke and Walsh weren't immune to some hospital passes.

McDaid really looked a lad who had been away from top level football for a while, one good run in the first half but ended up going straight into traffic, his black card was a poor one to get but there's a lesson there for all Galway players in terms of when to take a black card. Overall didn't really get into the game but he's a big unit now compared to his U21 days and his ability at that level was unquestionable.

Sean Andy was unusually tentative on a number of high balls that he was really the favourite for, didn't cleanly catch or break it out where he wanted it to go. Nothing major happened as a result but against better opposition it could be a problem, something to watch as the league moves forward particularly with the defensive mark in play.

QuoteBradshaw played well and the Galway turnaround began shortly after he was introduced which I don't think was a coincidence.
Flynn has turned into a much more consistent presence on the pitch compared to a few years ago, he turned it around last summer and I hope that he maintains that level into the rest of 2019. Cooke had a decent match without doing anything spectacular.

Heaney and Kelly played fairly well although Heaney should have buried his goal chance. Shane Walsh is going to get some more lads black carded with his direct running, if he's gone past it's either let him go or foul, there's no catching him.

I liked what I saw from Cunningham, deceptively quick and he got into some great positions. He fluffed a very easy point chance in the first half and really should have stuck his goal chance in the second but that bit more composure required will hopefully come with more game time moving forward. He's the type of player that Galway need to put the hand up this league campaign.

I assume that the Corofin lads will be gone for the duration of the club championship after yesterday but it was good to see them out there today, Silke will add a lot to that team this year, very steady.

Overall Galway were pedestrian enough even when they got going in the match but it was a game they ground out, once they got 3 points up I thought it was pretty much over as a contest. Cavan got the last 3 points and Galway didn't look great trying to see the match out in injury time truth be told. Galway tried a couple of killer passes to setup goals in the second half, none of which came off, given the way the match was playing out they would have been better off just sticking the ball over the bar.

McKiernan is clearly a big loss for Cavan at the moment but based on what I saw today Cavan will struggle to stay up unless they bring something very different or improve greatly in the subsequent league rounds.
It might be no different for ourselves in the long run but we've at least got the first must win game in the bag, it's a free shot match against the Dubs away next Saturday, anything out of it will be a very unexpected bonus.
Is there a more underrated player on that Galway team?
Honestly I don't get the flak that comes Brads way from a lot of people.
He's been a top quality player since he was a minor.
Was Wynne injured or was it a tactical switch?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on January 28, 2019, 09:00:30 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on January 28, 2019, 12:13:25 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:37:13 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on January 27, 2019, 08:24:44 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:04:57 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 27, 2019, 04:08:29 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.

Cavan also had a goal chance in 1st half but  made a mess of it.

Referree deserve a mention, atrocious. Two of Cavans blacks were terrible calls. Galway also should have seen red for a forearm challenge on Cavan midfielder. Galway were much improved in the 2nd half. Cavan fitness looked way off where it needs to be too. I think Galway will struggle against the better teams and I am afraid I will have to re-assess our chances as I struggle to see us win against anyone after watching that.

The ref was atrocious but not sure how a Cavan person could see him in a negative light given the string of ridiculous calls in the first half giving Cavan scoreable frees. Shafted Galway until the half. 2 black cards were for tit for tat messing, one to either player, so which black cards did you have issue with? Surely not the one to your midfielder taking Shane Walsh out off the ball? The one for the contested catch was on the harsh side alright. Galway had a fairly legitimate penalty claim denied late on

Black card 1 - Galway player trips cavan man in front of ref with his hand. Stone wall black.

Black card 2- Galway player puts ball over Martin Reilly and intentionally runs into him and jumps on ground roaring. Not a black card but maybe replay will change my view.

Black card 3 and 4 - cavan and Galway player jostling and pulling off the ball, cavan player tries to run away and is tripped. Definite blsck card for galway player, no black card offense committed by cavan player but if the jostling was an issue it should have been a yellow.

Black card no 5- definite black to cavan player.

Peno was not a peno and you are not allowed pull jerseys, even in salthill so that's where the frees came from.

Just on the black cards, McDaid got a fully deserved one, and it was a stupid one to get as Galway were on the attack on the other side of the pitch, instead it resulted in a throw ball that Cavan won and Galway a man down for nothing. At least some of the Cavan cards were taking an attacking player out of it. Duggan got a yellow but it wasn't a black card offence, could have been a red.
Cavan could have easily have got another black card for a deliberate trip in the first half but it would be foolish to point to the black cards as the decisive factor in this match, Galway didn't exactly rack up the scores during the time when Cavan were down by one or two men, while Cavan had the man advantage after McDaid got the line for 10 minutes at the start of the second half and did nothing much with it.
Aside from not moving into a dominant position with the man advantage at the start of the second half where Cavan really torpedoed themselves was in the first 25 minutes when they were the better team out there, they had numerous chances to push themselves even further than 3 ahead but hit some dodgy wides and also in the first half had a few very poor free attempts, some them should really have been gimmes at this level.

Galway were very slow out of the blocks and poor in general in the first half. Some of the inaccurate aimless ball played into the FF line was hard to fathom, even Galway's top players like Burke and Walsh weren't immune to some hospital passes.

McDaid really looked a lad who had been away from top level football for a while, one good run in the first half but ended up going straight into traffic, his black card was a poor one to get but there's a lesson there for all Galway players in terms of when to take a black card. Overall didn't really get into the game but he's a big unit now compared to his U21 days and his ability at that level was unquestionable.

Sean Andy was unusually tentative on a number of high balls that he was really the favourite for, didn't cleanly catch or break it out where he wanted it to go. Nothing major happened as a result but against better opposition it could be a problem, something to watch as the league moves forward particularly with the defensive mark in play.

Bradshaw played well and the Galway turnaround began shortly after he was introduced which I don't think was a coincidence.

Flynn has turned into a much more consistent presence on the pitch compared to a few years ago, he turned it around last summer and I hope that he maintains that level into the rest of 2019. Cooke had a decent match without doing anything spectacular.

Heaney and Kelly played fairly well although Heaney should have buried his goal chance. Shane Walsh is going to get some more lads black carded with his direct running, if he's gone past it's either let him go or foul, there's no catching him.

I liked what I saw from Cunningham, deceptively quick and he got into some great positions. He fluffed a very easy point chance in the first half and really should have stuck his goal chance in the second but that bit more composure required will hopefully come with more game time moving forward. He's the type of player that Galway need to put the hand up this league campaign.

I assume that the Corofin lads will be gone for the duration of the club championship after yesterday but it was good to see them out there today, Silke will add a lot to that team this year, very steady.

Overall Galway were pedestrian enough even when they got going in the match but it was a game they ground out, once they got 3 points up I thought it was pretty much over as a contest. Cavan got the last 3 points and Galway didn't look great trying to see the match out in injury time truth be told. Galway tried a couple of killer passes to setup goals in the second half, none of which came off, given the way the match was playing out they would have been better off just sticking the ball over the bar.

McKiernan is clearly a big loss for Cavan at the moment but based on what I saw today Cavan will struggle to stay up unless they bring something very different or improve greatly in the subsequent league rounds.
It might be no different for ourselves in the long run but we've at least got the first must win game in the bag, it's a free shot match against the Dubs away next Saturday, anything out of it will be a very unexpected bonus.

I think that is fair. BTW - I am not saying the cards lost Cavan the game, they were not good enough on the day and I am worried about the very poor fitness levels they have.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2019, 09:36:17 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 27, 2019, 11:33:45 PM
Roscommon's Smith should get a year for that eye gouging.

Not at all. Sure he didn't make eye contact at all, a total non-issue.

According to those on stolensheep.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on January 28, 2019, 09:39:31 AM
Well done to Monaghan, great win, decent folk up there too. Thought the crowd was a bit on small side.

In the long term, the defeat will benefit Dublin more than Monaghan, it will make them remember what it is like to lose and hopefully push on next week, long term its a long way off August!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on January 28, 2019, 09:44:23 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2019, 09:36:17 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on January 27, 2019, 11:33:45 PM
Roscommon's Smith should get a year for that eye gouging.

Not at all. Sure he didn't make eye contact at all, a total non-issue.

According to those on stolensheep.

According to 1 poster Farr. I don't think it was intentional but that doesn't excuse the fact that his hand was in that position. 1/2 game ban for me. There were incidents similar to this and no bans but that's no reason not to to this time.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on January 28, 2019, 09:46:31 AM
Revised odds to win the league after week 1, Dublin probably the value bet now:

Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 17, 2019, 12:01:33 PM
Dublin 8/15 11/10
Kerry 13/2 11/4
Tyrone 8/1 14/1
Mayo 9/1 6/1
Galway 10/1 8/1
Monaghan 16/1 7/1
Roscommon 40/1 150/1
Cavan 50/1 150/1



And to be relegated:

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 22, 2019, 12:59:47 PM
And the relegation odds

Roscommon 8/15 2/9
Cavan 4/7 2/9
Monaghan 11/4 15/2
Galway 7/2 7/1
Mayo 4/1 8/1
Kerry 6/1 20/1
Tyrone 11/2 3/1
Dublin 33/1 20/1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on January 28, 2019, 09:52:19 AM
Was just looking at the winning margins there across the four leagues:

D1: 2.5 points
D2: 1.75 points
D3: 4 points
D4: 4 points (skewed a bit by a 13 point win for Leitrim)

It's a much better competition than the championship for the most part and should really be linked to the championship in some way
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 28, 2019, 09:56:46 AM
The league is only a distraction. The big clash this year is Kerry vs  Dubs in the championship
Can Kerry stop the dubs becoming the greatest team ever ?
The biggest match since 1982 
Could they know each other out and them Monaghan sneak up and win Sam ?
That would also be acceptable.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/fault-lines-appear-for-kerry-in-a-kingdom-under-pressure-1.3769567

Fault lines appear for Kerry in a kingdom under pressure

Prospects of a Dublin five-in-a-row loom large over Kerry where winning is everything


Sat, Jan 26, 2019, 08:00


 
Keith Duggan

It's different for Kerry. The county moves further past the Ó Sé era of its history with a kaleidoscope of questions filling the sky. But in Kerry, all football questions boil down to one question: Can they win it this year?

The answer below in Kingdom country, thought if not voiced, is: we must.

Last September, in the days after Dublin sauntered through the closing minutes of their fourth successive All-Ireland win, Tomás Ó Sé put his thoughts together for his weekly column in the Irish Independent. His reflections were a de facto acknowledgement that the world in which he had grown up had vanished. Dublin had fallen into a 0-5 to 0-1 hole against Tyrone in that final. But in the end they had swatted the Ulster men away. Their wins over Mayo had been narrow, enthralling, incident laden. Here was proof of the new dispensation.

"I'd never go so far as to predict, six, seven, or eight All-Ireland finals in a row," Ó Sé wrote – a line that contained the inference that such a prospect is unthinkable rather than impossible – "but the fear is now, for anyone outside the capital at least, that there isn't a team emerging that can consistently beat them. They simply look unstoppable."

Few players-turned-analysts have been as consistently admiring of Dublin as Ó Sé: he likes how they play and how they keep their mouths shut. Under-statement is Ó Sé's calling card. If he wouldn't "predict" that Dublin can go eight years unbeaten, it doesn't mean he doesn't privately fear it. What if he nailed a truth that day? What if Dublin are simply unstoppable?

Dublin's transformation from 1970s nostalgia act to unprecedented juggernaut has forced Kerry football people – all Kerry people, in other words – to think differently about themselves. The old certainties have been stripped away with bewildering haste.


Mental barricades

Go back to that gripping day up in Clones last year if you want to feel, again, the moment when those mental barricades were stormed. Monaghan were hosting Kerry and loving every minute of it; champagne football, confidence to burn and a home crowd who had been waiting their entire lives for that hour. That Kerry salvaged a draw had as much to do with Monaghan blinking at the critical second.

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It proved to be Kieran Donaghy's last hour in a Kerry dressingroom. And it would mark the end of Eamonn Fitzmaurice's term in charge of Kerry football. After he stepped down, it became obvious that during last season, Fitzmaurice realised that he simply wouldn't be given sufficient time and breathing space to construct a team capable of matching Dublin.

If 2014's All-Ireland victory was one of the great Kerry guerrilla raids – it's very rare that you see a championship winning side materialising in such a short space of time – then the subsequent years were defined by the public anxiety over what Kerry could and should do about Dublin. Last summer, that nervousness was acute.

In Kerry, the pressure on managers to win has always been relentless and, at times, merciless. But not since the Mick O'Dwyer era has any Kerry manager been confronted with such an onslaught of excellence from Dublin. For three decades, the general rule was that if Kerry didn't win it, then some other county would. The joy was diffuse and, therefore, disappointment in Kerry was more palatable.

In the past four years, that has changed. Dublin aren't just building something in their dominance: they are also knocking down truths that were self-evident. Kerry's near-miss with the mythical five-in-a-row, denied by Séamus Darby's late All-Ireland final goal for Offaly in 1982, has always been a tolerable and even romantic failure because, until this year, only Kerry could come that close.
Kerry players celebrate after their All-Ireland minor football championship final win over Galway last year – their fifth title in a row at the grade. Photograph: Tommy Dickson/Inpho Kerry players celebrate after their All-Ireland minor football championship final win over Galway last year – their fifth title in a row at the grade. Photograph: Tommy Dickson/Inpho   
They were denied by what has become the most famous football goal of them all, along with a dash of hubris and interference from the gods. All of those comforts will be washed away if Dublin sweeps the board this year.

"For me, the only team with the potential to beat Dublin is Kerry," Ó Sé said in that same column. "The question is: will the Kerry team be ready next year? And are they going to get their houses in order and build a defensive unit that makes it hard to score?"

There, in a nutshell, was the prospect facing whoever the next Kerry manager would be. Peter Keane wasn't officially appointed until early October. His guidance of three Kerry minor teams to the All-Irelands titles of 2016, '17 and '18 completed a stunning five-in-a-row for Kerry at that grade. Now, his task is to somehow cobble together a team capable of preventing Dublin of doing just that at senior grade.

Tyrone, the All-Ireland finalists and recent McKenna Cup winners, visit Killarney on Sunday. You can bet they will be in a mood to test the credentials of the new Kerry set-up. David Clifford, the one dazzling light for Kerry last year, heads a substantial injury list and won't be seen until halfway through the league. David Moran, the senior partner on Kerry's unsettled midfield board, is away on honeymoon. Kieran Donaghy is playing basketball for good now. The Dr Crokes contingent are still in club competition.

Retaining values

At best, Keane will be fielding a deeply inexperienced senior side to face Tyrone. They meet Dublin in Tralee as soon as February 9th for what will be a hotly anticipated Saturday night match. Even then, they will be looking for a sign that Kerry will be up to the task in summer.


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But in Kerry, it is always different. In a terrific interview with Radio Kerry before Christmas, the three-time All-Ireland winner Dara Ó Cinnéide identified the fine line between merely winning and retaining values.

"First and foremost, the game is more important than the players; the game is more important than the infrastructure around it. It is not attractive to people of an older generation specifically. It is not as attractive to me. I still love to watch the game. In Kerry we are playing some very nice football. Maybe not successful . . . I see Eamonn Fitzmaurice recently was asked to give advice to Peter Keane. His own word of advice was – 'win'."

That's the dilemma facing Kerry as the new season begins. They are second favourites for the All-Ireland, even if it is a distant second right now. They feel morally obliged to uphold the tradition of expansive, kick-passing, attacking football. But the need to win – the need to beat Dublin in a championship match –has become paramount. The five-in-a-row song is coming back to haunt them. Again.

Either way, 2019 will be a fault line year for Kerry football.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on January 28, 2019, 10:32:07 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:37:13 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on January 27, 2019, 08:24:44 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:04:57 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 27, 2019, 04:08:29 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.

Cavan also had a goal chance in 1st half but  made a mess of it.

Referree deserve a mention, atrocious. Two of Cavans blacks were terrible calls. Galway also should have seen red for a forearm challenge on Cavan midfielder. Galway were much improved in the 2nd half. Cavan fitness looked way off where it needs to be too. I think Galway will struggle against the better teams and I am afraid I will have to re-assess our chances as I struggle to see us win against anyone after watching that.

The ref was atrocious but not sure how a Cavan person could see him in a negative light given the string of ridiculous calls in the first half giving Cavan scoreable frees. Shafted Galway until the half. 2 black cards were for tit for tat messing, one to either player, so which black cards did you have issue with? Surely not the one to your midfielder taking Shane Walsh out off the ball? The one for the contested catch was on the harsh side alright. Galway had a fairly legitimate penalty claim denied late on

Black card 1 - Galway player trips cavan man in front of ref with his hand. Stone wall black.

Black card 2- Galway player puts ball over Martin Reilly and intentionally runs into him and jumps on ground roaring. Not a black card but maybe replay will change my view.

Black card 3 and 4 - cavan and Galway player jostling and pulling off the ball, cavan player tries to run away and is tripped. Definite blsck card for galway player, no black card offense committed by cavan player but if the jostling was an issue it should have been a yellow.

Black card no 5- definite black to cavan player.

Peno was not a peno and you are not allowed pull jerseys, even in salthill so that's where the frees came from.

You can hardly have written that last line with a straight face given the penalty incident was a jersey pull for about 5 yards. The frees were all of the soft variety, all 50/50 decisions but every single one went against Galway and we were lucky ye missed a few of them. I'll take your word on the trip for black card 3 and 4, I didnt see a trip and it looked like just the usual wrestling you see by both to me
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 28, 2019, 10:36:33 AM
Quote from: galwayman on January 28, 2019, 03:46:51 AM
Was Wynne injured or was it a tactical switch?

He didn't look injured leaving the field and wasn't involved in any heavy collision prior to the switch, you'd have to assume it was a tactical move made by the sideline.

Quote from: Itchy on January 28, 2019, 09:00:30 AM
I think that is fair. BTW - I am not saying the cards lost Cavan the game, they were not good enough on the day and I am worried about the very poor fitness levels they have.

I definitely wasn't trying to insinuate that either to be honest, just pointing out for people not at the match that although the headlines will make the Cavan 12 men in the 2nd period look like the clear reason for the defeat, it was more down to Cavan not clinically building a bigger lead when they had multiple opportunities in the first half. Galway improved and played better after HT but for most of the initial period they were not really at the races, the likes of a Dublin or Monaghan would have put that game to bed before the half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mouview on January 28, 2019, 11:37:42 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on January 28, 2019, 10:36:33 AM
Quote from: galwayman on January 28, 2019, 03:46:51 AM
Was Wynne injured or was it a tactical switch?

He didn't look injured leaving the field and wasn't involved in any heavy collision prior to the switch, you'd have to assume it was a tactical move made by the sideline.

Quote from: Itchy on January 28, 2019, 09:00:30 AM
I think that is fair. BTW - I am not saying the cards lost Cavan the game, they were not good enough on the day and I am worried about the very poor fitness levels they have.

I definitely wasn't trying to insinuate that either to be honest, just pointing out for people not at the match that although the headlines will make the Cavan 12 men in the 2nd period look like the clear reason for the defeat, it was more down to Cavan not clinically building a bigger lead when they had multiple opportunities in the first half. Galway improved and played better after HT but for most of the initial period they were not really at the races, the likes of a Dublin or Monaghan would have put that game to bed before the half.

It was much better overall than v Roscommon last week. Agree with your summation. Galway have the pace to create incisive moves that open up defences, and should look to play like this all the time, instead of going lateral so often. Cunningham did plenty to suggest he'll get a few more chances. Sean Kelly good again, Flynn in fairness is now starting to show what he can do. Cooke is better and more mobile than Duggan but his distribution is often poor.

A vital 2 points. I'd say KW did a bit of horse-trading with Corofin beforehand to get the 2 players released.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 28, 2019, 12:00:05 PM
Quote from: mouview on January 28, 2019, 11:37:42 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on January 28, 2019, 10:36:33 AM
Quote from: galwayman on January 28, 2019, 03:46:51 AM
Was Wynne injured or was it a tactical switch?

He didn't look injured leaving the field and wasn't involved in any heavy collision prior to the switch, you'd have to assume it was a tactical move made by the sideline.

Quote from: Itchy on January 28, 2019, 09:00:30 AM
I think that is fair. BTW - I am not saying the cards lost Cavan the game, they were not good enough on the day and I am worried about the very poor fitness levels they have.

I definitely wasn't trying to insinuate that either to be honest, just pointing out for people not at the match that although the headlines will make the Cavan 12 men in the 2nd period look like the clear reason for the defeat, it was more down to Cavan not clinically building a bigger lead when they had multiple opportunities in the first half. Galway improved and played better after HT but for most of the initial period they were not really at the races, the likes of a Dublin or Monaghan would have put that game to bed before the half.

It was much better overall than v Roscommon last week. Agree with your summation. Galway have the pace to create incisive moves that open up defences, and should look to play like this all the time, instead of going lateral so often. Cunningham did plenty to suggest he'll get a few more chances. Sean Kelly good again, Flynn in fairness is now starting to show what he can do. Cooke is better and more mobile than Duggan but his distribution is often poor.

A vital 2 points. I'd say KW did a bit of horse-trading with Corofin beforehand to get the 2 players released.

The footballers are exciting when the forwards start moving towards the goal with pace
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheClubman on January 28, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on January 28, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: TheClubman on January 28, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 28, 2019, 03:37:41 PM
Tyrone are favs to beat Mayo

Does that sound right?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 28, 2019, 03:49:26 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 28, 2019, 03:37:41 PM
Tyrone are favs to beat Mayo

Does that sound right?

Probably playing at home and beat Mayo well last year in Castlebar.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: imtommygunn on January 28, 2019, 03:50:42 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 28, 2019, 03:37:41 PM
Tyrone are favs to beat Mayo

Does that sound right?

Yes.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on January 28, 2019, 03:57:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 28, 2019, 03:37:41 PM
Tyrone are favs to beat Mayo

Does that sound right?

In fairness to Tyrone they have beaten us in 4 out of the last 5 meetings in the league so they should be favorites. They hammered us in McHale park last year in the league.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on January 28, 2019, 04:30:08 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 28, 2019, 03:37:41 PM
Tyrone are favs to beat Mayo

Does that sound right?

The odds are saying the two teams are near equal. Home adv...
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 28, 2019, 04:38:01 PM
Armagh could easily have beaten Tyrone in the McKenna cup final and Kerry gave them a good beating yesterday. I also believe Mayo beat Tyrone in Omagh on their last visit. Mayo to win by 1-3 pts at 7/2 are tasty odds.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on January 28, 2019, 04:41:10 PM
We were steeped in luck to beat Roscommon , goal was never a goal ,the over carrying was ridiculous . Not a hope we will manage Tyrone, be very lucky to keep it down to single digit defeat .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: TheClubman on January 28, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 28, 2019, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: TheClubman on January 28, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
He did a Joe Sheridan on it.
Threw it into the goal
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 28, 2019, 08:01:27 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 28, 2019, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: TheClubman on January 28, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
He did a Joe Sheridan on it.
Threw it into the goal

Definitely looked like he briefly caught and chucked it rather than palmed or punched it in.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on January 28, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: TheClubman on January 28, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 08:49:40 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: TheClubman on January 28, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 28, 2019, 09:02:33 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on January 28, 2019, 10:36:33 AM
Quote from: galwayman on January 28, 2019, 03:46:51 AM
Was Wynne injured or was it a tactical switch?

He didn't look injured leaving the field and wasn't involved in any heavy collision prior to the switch, you'd have to assume it was a tactical move made by the sideline

Did he not get tangled with Lavelle and one of the Cavan forwards a few minutes before he came off? That's what I had presumed but maybe it was just tactical. Great to get the 2 points, with the team named Friday night I wasn't too optimistic but when the changes were announced things started to look up. On the positive side O'Donnell, Flynn, Burke and Silke all played well along with Heaney and Sean Kelly. On the negative our backs did a serious amount of fouling, any time SA Ceallaigh went to tackle he fouled the man, we lack a consistent free taker, Shane Walsh was extremely wasteful again yesterday. Duggan also seems to be having second season syndrome, he's lucky he didn't see red yesterday. Kerin also needs to learn to shut up and mind his business. Our sideline don't seem to have moved on from last year at all, were at the same slow, snails pace build up instead of using the speed of lads like Kelly, Heaney, Walsh, McDaid we're passing laterally around midfield or worse again backwards. We'll hardly see the Corofin lads next weekend I'd say, we badly need Comer and Daly back in.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Dubhaltach on January 28, 2019, 09:20:46 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 27, 2019, 11:24:31 PM
In relation to a black card offence, it's blatantly obvious that it matters where the infraction takes place. McManus upending a player on the ball, versus a provoked McManus upending a player away from the action is not the same officiating scenario in the GAA. Both Cooper and McManus were involved in an off the ball incident, a tumble in the grass. If the ref deemed it serious enough, it was either a yellow or red card offence. The ref dealt with the incident appropriately and in accordance with the rules.

As far as I know, there is no stipulation in either the 'deliberate pull down' or the 'trip' black card rule that the offence be on the ball or even that the offence be anywhere near the play.

Seamie O Shea got a black card half way through an All-Ireland Semi final even though the ball was nowhere near the incident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soMVvRJCnvQ
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: timmyot501 on January 28, 2019, 10:12:45 PM
At least this time Cooper had a reason to hit the deck unlike croke park a couple of years ago when he tried to get McManus sent off by pretending he got a slap. Ref dealt with it fine with the 2 yellows
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 29, 2019, 08:01:48 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 08:49:40 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: TheClubman on January 28, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
The Dubs couldn't complain about a palmed goal as they score so many of them themselves
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 08:59:38 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 29, 2019, 08:01:48 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 08:49:40 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: TheClubman on January 28, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
The Dubs couldn't complain about a palmed goal as they score so many of them themselves

Jim Gavin's quotes about the new rules and this year's league were interesting and he clearly has no interest in incorporating the new rules into training as in his words sure they only there for 6 more games, what's the point.

Should make the league interesting this year for everyone else as it looks as though Gavin is only focusing on championship this year
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Keyser soze on January 29, 2019, 09:50:06 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 08:59:38 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 29, 2019, 08:01:48 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 08:49:40 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: TheClubman on January 28, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

Its only people on here who think the league is a better competition than the championship  ;)

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
The Dubs couldn't complain about a palmed goal as they score so many of them themselves

Jim Gavin's quotes about the new rules and this year's league were interesting and he clearly has no interest in incorporating the new rules into training as in his words sure they only there for 6 more games, what's the point.

Should make the league interesting this year for everyone else as it looks as though Gavin is only focusing on championship this year
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 10:07:09 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 08:59:38 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 29, 2019, 08:01:48 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 08:49:40 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: TheClubman on January 28, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
The Dubs couldn't complain about a palmed goal as they score so many of them themselves

Jim Gavin's quotes about the new rules and this year's league were interesting and he clearly has no interest in incorporating the new rules into training as in his words sure they only there for 6 more games, what's the point.

Should make the league interesting this year for everyone else as it looks as though Gavin is only focusing on championship this year

You would too if you had the once in a century chance to knock Kerry off their f**king perch (Copyright A Ferguson)
This year is massive in the history of Gaelic football
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 11:17:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 10:07:09 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 08:59:38 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 29, 2019, 08:01:48 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 08:49:40 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: TheClubman on January 28, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
The Dubs couldn't complain about a palmed goal as they score so many of them themselves

Jim Gavin's quotes about the new rules and this year's league were interesting and he clearly has no interest in incorporating the new rules into training as in his words sure they only there for 6 more games, what's the point.

Should make the league interesting this year for everyone else as it looks as though Gavin is only focusing on championship this year

You would too if you had the once in a century chance to knock Kerry off their f**king perch (Copyright A Ferguson)
This year is massive in the history of Gaelic football

Ferguson was talking about surpassing Liverpool's 18 league titles. For Dublin to do likewise they would need to win another 10 All Ireland's and hope Kerry win none.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 11:40:32 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 11:17:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 10:07:09 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 08:59:38 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 29, 2019, 08:01:48 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 08:49:40 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: TheClubman on January 28, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
The Dubs couldn't complain about a palmed goal as they score so many of them themselves

Jim Gavin's quotes about the new rules and this year's league were interesting and he clearly has no interest in incorporating the new rules into training as in his words sure they only there for 6 more games, what's the point.

Should make the league interesting this year for everyone else as it looks as though Gavin is only focusing on championship this year

You would too if you had the once in a century chance to knock Kerry off their f**king perch (Copyright A Ferguson)
This year is massive in the history of Gaelic football

Ferguson was talking about surpassing Liverpool's 18 league titles. For Dublin to do likewise they would need to win another 10 All Ireland's and hope Kerry win none.
That doesn't seem to be how they see it in Kerry

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/fault-lines-appear-for-kerry-in-a-kingdom-under-pressure-1.3769567

Dublin's transformation from 1970s nostalgia act to unprecedented juggernaut has forced Kerry football people – all Kerry people, in other words – to think differently about themselves. The old certainties have been stripped away with bewildering haste.If 2014's All-Ireland victory was one of the great Kerry guerrilla raids – it's very rare that you see a championship winning side materialising in such a short space of time – then the subsequent years were defined by the public anxiety over what Kerry could and should do about Dublin. Last summer, that nervousness was acute.
In Kerry, the pressure on managers to win has always been relentless and, at times, merciless. But not since the Mick O'Dwyer era has any Kerry manager been confronted with such an onslaught of excellence from Dublin. For three decades, the general rule was that if Kerry didn't win it, then some other county would. The joy was diffuse and, therefore, disappointment in Kerry was more palatable.
In the past four years, that has changed. Dublin aren't just building something in their dominance: they are also knocking down truths that were self-evident. Kerry's near-miss with the mythical five-in-a-row, denied by Séamus Darby's late All-Ireland final goal for Offaly in 1982, has always been a tolerable and even romantic failure because, until this year, only Kerry could come that close.
That's the dilemma facing Kerry as the new season begins. They are second favourites for the All-Ireland, even if it is a distant second right now. They feel morally obliged to uphold the tradition of expansive, kick-passing, attacking football. But the need to win – the need to beat Dublin in a championship match –has become paramount. The five-in-a-row song is coming back to haunt them. Again.
Either way, 2019 will be a fault line year for Kerry football.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 11:44:12 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 11:17:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 10:07:09 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 08:59:38 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 29, 2019, 08:01:48 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 08:49:40 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 28, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
Quote from: TheClubman on January 28, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
The Dubs couldn't complain about a palmed goal as they score so many of them themselves

Jim Gavin's quotes about the new rules and this year's league were interesting and he clearly has no interest in incorporating the new rules into training as in his words sure they only there for 6 more games, what's the point.

Should make the league interesting this year for everyone else as it looks as though Gavin is only focusing on championship this year

You would too if you had the once in a century chance to knock Kerry off their f**king perch (Copyright A Ferguson)
This year is massive in the history of Gaelic football

Ferguson was talking about surpassing Liverpool's 18 league titles. For Dublin to do likewise they would need to win another 10 All Ireland's and hope Kerry win none.

Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 11:44:12 AM
Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.

No he's not spot on.  "Massive" year in the history of the GAA is getting caught up in the hype. Winning 5 in a row is just doing something that Kerry didn't. A bit of bragging rights. They will remain a good number of All Ireland titles off Kerry.

Flynn,Brogan great players at their peak though already fazed out and replaced in the starting team, are you serious by throwing O'Gara in there? Life without Cluxton; McMahon,O’Sullivan,McCarthy was seen last Sunday and they all have big boots to fill once gone.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 29, 2019, 12:35:44 PM
Dublin had 21 All Ireland titles to Kerry's 36 pre-2011. That count now is 28 to 37! Dublin are quickly eating away at that lead!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on January 29, 2019, 12:41:49 PM
Should All Irelands from the pre all County selection days be counted at all?
It was Club teams only for the first 20 or so years.
Bray won one as Dublin Champions.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 11:44:12 AM
Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.

No he's not spot on.  "Massive" year in the history of the GAA is getting caught up in the hype. Winning 5 in a row is just doing something that Kerry didn't. A bit of bragging rights. They will remain a good number of All Ireland titles off Kerry.

Flynn,Brogan great players at their peak though already fazed out and replaced in the starting team, are you serious by throwing O'Gara in there? Life without Cluxton; McMahon,O'Sullivan,McCarthy was seen last Sunday and they all have big boots to fill once gone.
I don't agree, Cunny.
GAA is not the same as English soccer.

5 in a row has never been done in either sport. There have been great teams but greatness has until now been confined to 4 in a row
If the Dubs did it everything would be different down in Kerry 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 11:44:12 AM
Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.

No he's not spot on.  "Massive" year in the history of the GAA is getting caught up in the hype. Winning 5 in a row is just doing something that Kerry didn't. A bit of bragging rights. They will remain a good number of All Ireland titles off Kerry.

Flynn,Brogan great players at their peak though already fazed out and replaced in the starting team, are you serious by throwing O'Gara in there? Life without Cluxton; McMahon,O'Sullivan,McCarthy was seen last Sunday and they all have big boots to fill once gone.
I don't agree, Cunny.
GAA is not the same as English soccer.

5 in a row has never been done in either sport. There have been great teams but greatness has until now been confined to 4 in a row
If the Dubs did it everything would be different down in Kerry

Yet you used a quote from a former English football manager.
Great teams retains titles. Different era so can't compare and it doesn't look like Dublin this year have a challenger as good or focused as Offaly was in 1982.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 29, 2019, 01:01:38 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 29, 2019, 12:35:44 PM
Dublin had 21 All Ireland titles to Kerry's 36 pre-2011. That count now is 28 to 37! Dublin are quickly eating away at that lead!

Hope they overtake them.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 29, 2019, 01:17:34 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 29, 2019, 01:40:07 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 29, 2019, 12:41:49 PM
Should All Irelands from the pre all County selection days be counted at all?
It was Club teams only for the first 20 or so years.
Bray won one as Dublin Champions.

From what i heard,  The era of where Club Champions represented the County was a bit of a farce. Once the county championship was over, good players from other clubs within the county were canvassed to play for the county Champions in the Provincial and AI series. This was rife among all counties and was the reason the game changed to pure inter-county.

To be fair if you look at pre-WW2 records the Provincial and All Ireland Championship looked a mess with appeals and complaints.

1925 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship was a case in fact.

The 1925 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship

''The championship has become known for the farcical manner in which the play-offs took place. The Connaught final was not held in time to produce a team that could compete against the other three provinces in the semi-finals. Mayo was therefore nominated to represent the province. Mayo beat Wexford in the semi final. Kerry beat Cavan in the other semi-final. However, both Kerry and Cavan were disqualified for fielding illegal players. This meant that Mayo were declared champions without the need for a final. However, in the meantime, Galway had defeated Mayo in the Connaught final and this put the GAA in a bind. They withdrew their nomination of Mayo to represent Connaught, and chose Galway as rightful Connaught champions. Thus, Galway became All-Ireland champions.

However, this was deemed unsatisfactory by all. So the GAA ordered the semi-finals to be replayed with Galway taking the rightful place of Connaught champions. However, Kerry complained that their semi-final victory over Cavan should stand. When the GAA insisted that it should not stand, Kerry withdrew, leaving Cavan to automatically proceed to the final. Galway defeated Cavan in the final. The farce went on so long that the final was not played until January 10, 1926. Cavan, despite having previously been disqualified, finished with a silver medal. Mayo, despite having previously been declared champions, were eliminated. Galway, despite having previously been removed from the tournament, were champions.''
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 01:40:31 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 11:44:12 AM
Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.

No he's not spot on.  "Massive" year in the history of the GAA is getting caught up in the hype. Winning 5 in a row is just doing something that Kerry didn't. A bit of bragging rights. They will remain a good number of All Ireland titles off Kerry.

Flynn,Brogan great players at their peak though already fazed out and replaced in the starting team, are you serious by throwing O'Gara in there? Life without Cluxton; McMahon,O'Sullivan,McCarthy was seen last Sunday and they all have big boots to fill once gone.
I don't agree, Cunny.
GAA is not the same as English soccer.

5 in a row has never been done in either sport. There have been great teams but greatness has until now been confined to 4 in a row
If the Dubs did it everything would be different down in Kerry

Yet you used a quote from a former English football manager.
Great teams retains titles. Different era so can't compare and it doesn't look like Dublin this year have a challenger as good or focused as Offaly was in 1982.
It takes an exceptional team to win 3 in a row.
4 in a row is even more exclusive
It does look like the Dubs will do it but you would have said the same about the Cats in 2010.
They were very nervous
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 01:40:31 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 11:44:12 AM
Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.

No he's not spot on.  "Massive" year in the history of the GAA is getting caught up in the hype. Winning 5 in a row is just doing something that Kerry didn't. A bit of bragging rights. They will remain a good number of All Ireland titles off Kerry.

Flynn,Brogan great players at their peak though already fazed out and replaced in the starting team, are you serious by throwing O'Gara in there? Life without Cluxton; McMahon,O'Sullivan,McCarthy was seen last Sunday and they all have big boots to fill once gone.
I don't agree, Cunny.
GAA is not the same as English soccer.

5 in a row has never been done in either sport. There have been great teams but greatness has until now been confined to 4 in a row
If the Dubs did it everything would be different down in Kerry

Yet you used a quote from a former English football manager.
Great teams retains titles. Different era so can't compare and it doesn't look like Dublin this year have a challenger as good or focused as Offaly was in 1982.
It takes an exceptional team to win 3 in a row.
4 in a row is even more exclusive
It does look like the Dubs will do it but you would have said the same about the Cats in 2010.
They were very nervous

Sorry CF, but if the dubs win this year they do something no one else has ever done. Do you think anyone honestly will care this year that winning the all Ireland this year gets them 1 closer to Kerry's total. It's football immortality and legendary status in the history in the game. You can try and knock their achievements all you want but this is the one year teams ESPECIALLY Kerry will want to beat the dubs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyCake on January 29, 2019, 02:05:52 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 29, 2019, 01:01:38 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 29, 2019, 12:35:44 PM
Dublin had 21 All Ireland titles to Kerry's 36 pre-2011. That count now is 28 to 37! Dublin are quickly eating away at that lead!

Hope they overtake them.

I hope they both win no more, and the rest (except Tyrone) catch up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 03:52:27 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 29, 2019, 01:01:38 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 29, 2019, 12:35:44 PM
Dublin had 21 All Ireland titles to Kerry's 36 pre-2011. That count now is 28 to 37! Dublin are quickly eating away at that lead!

Hope they overtake them.

Typical Mayo ;)

Would you not want Mayo to win a few of them ?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on January 29, 2019, 04:25:49 PM
I think you are all forgetting yourselves above with all this positivity for Dublin. Back to Dub hating with you all.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 29, 2019, 04:30:21 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 03:52:27 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 29, 2019, 01:01:38 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 29, 2019, 12:35:44 PM
Dublin had 21 All Ireland titles to Kerry's 36 pre-2011. That count now is 28 to 37! Dublin are quickly eating away at that lead!

Hope they overtake them.

Typical Mayo ;)

Would you not want Mayo to win a few of them ?
Of course. Once we overtake both it'll be mighty altogether.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 29, 2019, 04:49:12 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 29, 2019, 01:17:34 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on January 29, 2019, 04:59:50 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on January 29, 2019, 04:49:12 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 29, 2019, 01:17:34 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.

I dont think the referee paid much head to it, he didnt blow his whistle for a number of clear marks for either team and as a result they just played on.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 06:28:05 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 01:40:31 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 11:44:12 AM
Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.

No he's not spot on.  "Massive" year in the history of the GAA is getting caught up in the hype. Winning 5 in a row is just doing something that Kerry didn't. A bit of bragging rights. They will remain a good number of All Ireland titles off Kerry.

Flynn,Brogan great players at their peak though already fazed out and replaced in the starting team, are you serious by throwing O'Gara in there? Life without Cluxton; McMahon,O’Sullivan,McCarthy was seen last Sunday and they all have big boots to fill once gone.
I don't agree, Cunny.
GAA is not the same as English soccer.

5 in a row has never been done in either sport. There have been great teams but greatness has until now been confined to 4 in a row
If the Dubs did it everything would be different down in Kerry

Yet you used a quote from a former English football manager.
Great teams retains titles. Different era so can't compare and it doesn't look like Dublin this year have a challenger as good or focused as Offaly was in 1982.
It takes an exceptional team to win 3 in a row.
4 in a row is even more exclusive
It does look like the Dubs will do it but you would have said the same about the Cats in 2010.
They were very nervous

Sorry CF, but if the dubs win this year they do something no one else has ever done. Do you think anyone honestly will care this year that winning the all Ireland this year gets them 1 closer to Kerry's total. It's football immortality and legendary status in the history in the game. You can try and knock their achievements all you want but this is the one year teams ESPECIALLY Kerry will want to beat the dubs.

Kerry in transition won't be beating Dublin in the championship this summer. The four in a row Kerry team used around 20 players. Dublin in the last 4 years used over 40 different players in those finals, so Dublin's achievement has been done with teams and that 4 in a row Kerry achievement was with one team.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Sportacus on January 29, 2019, 06:48:41 PM
Monaghan exposed Dublin's only weakness, unsteady under the high ball into the square.  Often wonder would Mayo have won Sam if they'd put Barry Moran on the square in one of those replays and used him all day.   Also wonder why more teams don't do this to Dublin, when you think Kerry had Donaghy and didn't really use him.  Tactics don't have to be rocket science.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 29, 2019, 07:33:14 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 29, 2019, 06:48:41 PM
Monaghan exposed Dublin's only weakness, unsteady under the high ball into the square.  Often wonder would Mayo have won Sam if they'd put Barry Moran on the square in one of those replays and used him all day.   Also wonder why more teams don't do this to Dublin, when you think Kerry had Donaghy and didn't really use him.  Tactics don't have to be rocket science.

How many of the Dublin Full back line v Monaghan were All Ireland starters? Has there been an offensive mark in the last 8 All Ireland finals?

There are loads of great ideas of how to beat this Dublin team. But no one has done it in an All Ireland final in 8 years. Only Mayo and Donegal have managed it at the semi-final stage, and you would guess Dublin were at the early stage of knowing how to celebrate All Ireland wins and took both for granted before both games.

Barry Moran was just not good enough for the FF role against Dublin - maybe other teams but not Dublin. O'Shea has played there as well v Dublin and was lost, bullied and got nothing from various referees. Players could do what they liked against him. Pull, drag, shove. There was never a free or a Card. There was a blind spot there from referees.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 29, 2019, 07:44:37 PM
Quote from: Dubhaltach on January 28, 2019, 09:20:46 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 27, 2019, 11:24:31 PM
In relation to a black card offence, it's blatantly obvious that it matters where the infraction takes place. McManus upending a player on the ball, versus a provoked McManus upending a player away from the action is not the same officiating scenario in the GAA. Both Cooper and McManus were involved in an off the ball incident, a tumble in the grass. If the ref deemed it serious enough, it was either a yellow or red card offence. The ref dealt with the incident appropriately and in accordance with the rules.

As far as I know, there is no stipulation in either the 'deliberate pull down' or the 'trip' black card rule that the offence be on the ball or even that the offence be anywhere near the play.

Seamie O Shea got a black card half way through an All-Ireland Semi final even though the ball was nowhere near the incident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soMVvRJCnvQ
Yeah fair enough, at least one  ref interpreted the black card in that way for an incident off the ball som 3 and half years ago. I would argue that this was not a literal interpretation, I'd say that was an incorrect interpretation. Id hazard a guess that most onlookers  would have expected the ref to give a yellow to O'Shea.  And it would also be reasonable to guess that Cooper had barged into O'Shea in an attempt to provoke him into a reaction just as he did with McManus  :) 
That was an off the ball altercation, O'Shea just reacted  but not cynically, a yellow card would have fitted that crime.
A cynical trip?  Rock's black card for the hand trip (once deemed deliberate).
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 30, 2019, 08:46:53 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 06:28:05 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 01:40:31 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 11:44:12 AM
Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.

No he's not spot on.  "Massive" year in the history of the GAA is getting caught up in the hype. Winning 5 in a row is just doing something that Kerry didn't. A bit of bragging rights. They will remain a good number of All Ireland titles off Kerry.

Flynn,Brogan great players at their peak though already fazed out and replaced in the starting team, are you serious by throwing O'Gara in there? Life without Cluxton; McMahon,O'Sullivan,McCarthy was seen last Sunday and they all have big boots to fill once gone.
I don't agree, Cunny.
GAA is not the same as English soccer.

5 in a row has never been done in either sport. There have been great teams but greatness has until now been confined to 4 in a row
If the Dubs did it everything would be different down in Kerry

Yet you used a quote from a former English football manager.
Great teams retains titles. Different era so can't compare and it doesn't look like Dublin this year have a challenger as good or focused as Offaly was in 1982.
It takes an exceptional team to win 3 in a row.
4 in a row is even more exclusive
It does look like the Dubs will do it but you would have said the same about the Cats in 2010.
They were very nervous

Sorry CF, but if the dubs win this year they do something no one else has ever done. Do you think anyone honestly will care this year that winning the all Ireland this year gets them 1 closer to Kerry's total. It's football immortality and legendary status in the history in the game. You can try and knock their achievements all you want but this is the one year teams ESPECIALLY Kerry will want to beat the dubs.

Kerry in transition won't be beating Dublin in the championship this summer. The four in a row Kerry team used around 20 players. Dublin in the last 4 years used over 40 different players in those finals, so Dublin's achievement has been done with teams and that 4 in a row Kerry achievement was with one team.

That may be so but in 40 years' time when curious 10 year olds are looking at the record books to learn about the past of the game they love there won't be any detail about how many players were used .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on January 30, 2019, 10:41:56 AM
I see Smith got a one match ban for the eye gouging incident.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on January 30, 2019, 10:51:40 AM
What did Higgins get for the headbutt?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on January 30, 2019, 10:54:11 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 29, 2019, 06:48:41 PM
Monaghan exposed Dublin's only weakness, unsteady under the high ball into the square.  Often wonder would Mayo have won Sam if they'd put Barry Moran on the square in one of those replays and used him all day.   Also wonder why more teams don't do this to Dublin, when you think Kerry had Donaghy and didn't really use him.  Tactics don't have to be rocket science.
Yep, Dublin haven't had a full back since O'Carroll went down under. Full back line made up of corner backs, feisty, tough, reasonably pacey, but none what you'd call "very good" under a high ball.

One year Mayo gave O'Shea a decent spell in FF against us, and he won every ball. But tactics were awful afterwards. Instead of laying it off he always turned and tried to bulldoze his way through. I could see him doing a lot of damage against us with this rule.
Post O'Carroll, Donaghy has always caused us problems when played at FF. Bizarrely he'd often wander out the field against us, where he's near useless. And when in FF, Kerry rarely used him as their primary tactic. But you could imagine an on-song Geaney and Clifford having a field day.

With our current full back line, the new mark rule definitely doesn't suit us, and I'm relieved it can't be in for 2019 championship. Also, we've not much in the way of fielding full forwards either. O'Gara, on his day, is a very good fielder, but being able to kick the ball over the bar after making a mark would be another question! Bernard is a much under-rated fielder, and obviously well able to kick the ball over, so I think he'd thrive with it. But he'll be retired by the time the mark is in for championship.

Against Monaghan, Dean Rock made a run from full forward in a diagonal line towards the LHF position. He caught a 20 yard pop pass. In normal circumstances his only real option would have been to try and find a runner, as the full back was up behind him and if Rock tried to turn he'd be swallowed up. Instead a mark was called and he'd a easy point from just outside the D.

I think that's a big weakness in the new rule. Unlike a high catch by a full forward under pressure from defenders, I don't think what Rock did deserved a handy tap over point.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: JoG2 on January 30, 2019, 11:55:10 AM
Quote from: TheMaster on January 30, 2019, 10:51:40 AM
What did Higgins get for the headbutt?

Don't be an ass (repeatedly) ffs. At this stage there should be a specific ban for an eye gouge so there's no ambiguity (there's unfortunately been a few in recent years) of a year ban. 1 match ban is nothing short of a disgrace
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 30, 2019, 12:11:01 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2019, 11:55:10 AM
Quote from: TheMaster on January 30, 2019, 10:51:40 AM
What did Higgins get for the headbutt?

Don't be an ass (repeatedly) ffs. At this stage there should be a specific ban for an eye gouge so there's no ambiguity (there's unfortunately been a few in recent years) of a year ban. 1 match ban is nothing short of a disgrace

The GAA are well known for change but this was one such incident that was always likely to stay with a one match ban after previous similar incidents so no surprise at all.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Tubberman on January 30, 2019, 12:19:48 PM
Quote from: TheMaster on January 30, 2019, 10:51:40 AM
What did Higgins get for the headbutt?

A clap on the back for the restraint he showed.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on January 30, 2019, 12:21:33 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 30, 2019, 10:41:56 AM
I see Smith got a one match ban for the eye gouging incident.

It was for endangerment. No mention of "eye gouging".

It seems retaliation isn't an offence any more though.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: JoG2 on January 30, 2019, 12:46:48 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 30, 2019, 12:21:33 PM
Quote from: straightred on January 30, 2019, 10:41:56 AM
I see Smith got a one match ban for the eye gouging incident.

It was for endangerment. No mention of "eye gouging".

It seems retaliation isn't an offence any more though.

Another 'gobeen' has his say. No shortage in Roscommon by the looks of it
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on January 30, 2019, 12:46:48 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 30, 2019, 12:19:48 PM
Quote from: TheMaster on January 30, 2019, 10:51:40 AM
What did Higgins get for the headbutt?

A clap on the back for the restraint he showed.

That what referee is for. Smith should got 6 months. So next time  one of the Galway lads gets elbow from oconnors will a Galway lad be allowed hit him back?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 30, 2019, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on January 29, 2019, 04:49:12 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 29, 2019, 01:17:34 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.

No point in putting any effort into it considering it won't be around come championship.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on January 30, 2019, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 30, 2019, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on January 29, 2019, 04:49:12 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 29, 2019, 01:17:34 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.

No point in putting any effort into it considering it won't be around come championship.

There were 3 or 4 clear mark's by Galway that the ref didnt blow for. It's like he wasnt aware of the rule, although he may just not have whistled in play on opportunities such as Heaney's goal chance. Cooke was attempting to "play quarterback" and set up marks with kicks in but badly misjudged them on a couple of occasions straight to defenders. Comer/Burke, with Conroy providing, would look made for winning marks but as you say i'd say Walsh has put zero stock on the new rules with championship getting the full focus this year
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 30, 2019, 01:37:46 PM
Is charging with the elbow straight out in front not endangerment as is constantly done by Aiden O Shea but he is never pulled for it, or maybe his elbow has a soft centre like the rest of this rhubarb team ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyCake on January 30, 2019, 01:54:43 PM
Quote from: TheMaster on January 30, 2019, 12:46:48 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on January 30, 2019, 12:19:48 PM
Quote from: TheMaster on January 30, 2019, 10:51:40 AM
What did Higgins get for the headbutt?

A clap on the back for the restraint he showed.

That what referee is for. Smith should got 6 months. So next time  one of the Galway lads gets elbow from oconnors will a Galway lad be allowed hit him back?

I'd go further. I'd give a year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on January 30, 2019, 02:04:51 PM
Thankfully you and the baying mob aren't in charge of disciplinary issues.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: JoG2 on January 30, 2019, 02:06:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 30, 2019, 02:04:51 PM
Thankfully you and the baying mob aren't in charge of disciplinary issues.

Will say no more, you Rossie's are hitting it out of the park all by yourselves.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 30, 2019, 02:23:48 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on January 30, 2019, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 30, 2019, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on January 29, 2019, 04:49:12 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 29, 2019, 01:17:34 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.

No point in putting any effort into it considering it won't be around come championship.

There were 3 or 4 clear mark's by Galway that the ref didnt blow for. It's like he wasnt aware of the rule, although he may just not have whistled in play on opportunities such as Heaney's goal chance. Cooke was attempting to "play quarterback" and set up marks with kicks in but badly misjudged them on a couple of occasions straight to defenders. Comer/Burke, with Conroy providing, would look made for winning marks but as you say i'd say Walsh has put zero stock on the new rules with championship getting the full focus this year

I like Cooke but he gives the ball away too easily, I've seen him kick scores with both feet from huge distances but then again I've seen him miss right in front of the posts like he did against Kerry last July. Playing Sigerson is getting in the way too. Kieran Molloy too can be a bit wasteful in possession too, needs to cut that out as he's got every attribute to be a brilliant wing back.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 30, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Predictions for the weekend ?

Dublin  v Galway
Ros v Monaghan
Cavan v Kerry
Tyrone v Mayo
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyCake on January 30, 2019, 02:38:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 30, 2019, 02:04:51 PM
Thankfully you and the baying mob aren't in charge of disciplinary issues.

It's not a Roscommon thing. Any player who does it, 1 year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Aaron Boone on January 30, 2019, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 30, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Predictions for the weekend ?

Dublin  v Galway
Ros v Monaghan
Cavan v Kerry
Tyrone v Mayo
I'm going for the four favourites: Dublin/Monakhan/Kerry/Tyrone.  Almost a 3/1 accumulator.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 30, 2019, 04:06:02 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2019, 02:06:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 30, 2019, 02:04:51 PM
Thankfully you and the baying mob aren't in charge of disciplinary issues.

Will say no more, you Rossie's are hitting it out of the park all by yourselves.

For a northern man you are more concerned about this than any Mayo poster is on here. The CCCC studied the video evidence and delivered their verdict and punishment. Onto to round 2 now where I think Monaghan,Kerry,Dublin should win and Mayo Tyrone could be a draw.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 30, 2019, 04:37:26 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 30, 2019, 02:23:48 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on January 30, 2019, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 30, 2019, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on January 29, 2019, 04:49:12 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 29, 2019, 01:17:34 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.

No point in putting any effort into it considering it won't be around come championship.

There were 3 or 4 clear mark's by Galway that the ref didnt blow for. It's like he wasnt aware of the rule, although he may just not have whistled in play on opportunities such as Heaney's goal chance. Cooke was attempting to "play quarterback" and set up marks with kicks in but badly misjudged them on a couple of occasions straight to defenders. Comer/Burke, with Conroy providing, would look made for winning marks but as you say i'd say Walsh has put zero stock on the new rules with championship getting the full focus this year

I like Cooke but he gives the ball away too easily, I've seen him kick scores with both feet from huge distances but then again I've seen him miss right in front of the posts like he did against Kerry last July. Playing Sigerson is getting in the way too. Kieran Molloy too can be a bit wasteful in possession too, needs to cut that out as he's got every attribute to be a brilliant wing back.

Cooke is super talented. Can fetch high ball and kick huge points with both feet. Fairly mobile too. Can get up and down the field. Just a bit lax at times with his distribution but easy to forget that these are still young lads and have a few rough edges to knock off yet.

I think his ceiling is probably higher than any other Galway midfielder because of his natural ability. I mean Tom Flynn (who has been great the past year) can't kick scores like Cooke can. Just up to him to put in the work now.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 30, 2019, 04:57:58 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 30, 2019, 04:37:26 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 30, 2019, 02:23:48 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on January 30, 2019, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 30, 2019, 01:03:36 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on January 29, 2019, 04:49:12 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 29, 2019, 01:17:34 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.

No point in putting any effort into it considering it won't be around come championship.

There were 3 or 4 clear mark's by Galway that the ref didnt blow for. It's like he wasnt aware of the rule, although he may just not have whistled in play on opportunities such as Heaney's goal chance. Cooke was attempting to "play quarterback" and set up marks with kicks in but badly misjudged them on a couple of occasions straight to defenders. Comer/Burke, with Conroy providing, would look made for winning marks but as you say i'd say Walsh has put zero stock on the new rules with championship getting the full focus this year

I like Cooke but he gives the ball away too easily, I've seen him kick scores with both feet from huge distances but then again I've seen him miss right in front of the posts like he did against Kerry last July. Playing Sigerson is getting in the way too. Kieran Molloy too can be a bit wasteful in possession too, needs to cut that out as he's got every attribute to be a brilliant wing back.

Cooke is super talented. Can fetch high ball and kick huge points with both feet. Fairly mobile too. Can get up and down the field. Just a bit lax at times with his distribution but easy to forget that these are still young lads and have a few rough edges to knock off yet.

I think his ceiling is probably higher than any other Galway midfielder because of his natural ability. I mean Tom Flynn (who has been great the past year) can't kick scores like Cooke can. Just up to him to put in the work now.

I agree although I'm a huge fan of D'Arcy too, he's 2 younger than Cooke and and is more mobile although not as tall. Midfield was a huge problem for Galway a few years ago but now have plenty of options. Flynn has really improved the last 12 months and his performances have become very consistent, when you look at that goal against Kerry in 2014 he just doesn't do enough of that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 30, 2019, 06:11:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 30, 2019, 02:04:51 PM
Thankfully you and the baying mob aren't in charge of disciplinary issues.
Quite so,  a one match ban v Monaghan and available for last 5 games sounds about right to me.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 30, 2019, 06:51:03 PM
You cannot give one player a ban for doing something and then not examine other incidents in the same game
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on January 30, 2019, 07:15:19 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 30, 2019, 06:51:03 PM
You cannot give one player a ban for doing something and then not examine other incidents in the same game

Agreed. I heard from someone who was there that AOS was getting belted off the ball all night long
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 30, 2019, 07:22:29 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 30, 2019, 07:15:19 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 30, 2019, 06:51:03 PM
You cannot give one player a ban for doing something and then not examine other incidents in the same game

Agreed. I heard from someone who was there that AOS was getting belted off the ball all night long
some fella called Leroy was at his usual antics too, I heard
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2019, 07:34:43 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 30, 2019, 07:22:29 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 30, 2019, 07:15:19 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 30, 2019, 06:51:03 PM
You cannot give one player a ban for doing something and then not examine other incidents in the same game

Agreed. I heard from someone who was there that AOS was getting belted off the ball all night long
some fella called Leroy was at his usual antics too, I heard
Which was What? ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on January 30, 2019, 07:40:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2019, 07:34:43 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 30, 2019, 07:22:29 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 30, 2019, 07:15:19 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 30, 2019, 06:51:03 PM
You cannot give one player a ban for doing something and then not examine other incidents in the same game

Agreed. I heard from someone who was there that AOS was getting belted off the ball all night long
some fella called Leroy was at his usual antics too, I heard
Which was What? ::)

Being molested by the Roscommon wing forward all through the first half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 30, 2019, 08:22:02 PM
Wing forward molesting leeroy ;D as elmer fudd said it aint no fun when the wabbitt gets the gun.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on January 30, 2019, 08:33:42 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on January 30, 2019, 08:22:02 PM
Wing forward molesting leeroy ;D as elmer fudd said it aint no fun when the wabbitt gets the gun.

:) :D ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: JoG2 on January 30, 2019, 08:59:41 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 30, 2019, 04:06:02 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2019, 02:06:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 30, 2019, 02:04:51 PM
Thankfully you and the baying mob aren't in charge of disciplinary issues.

Will say no more, you Rossie's are hitting it out of the park all by yourselves.

For a northern man you are more concerned about this than any Mayo poster is on here. The CCCC studied the video evidence and delivered their verdict and punishment. Onto to round 2 now where I think Monaghan,Kerry,Dublin should win and Mayo Tyrone could be a draw.

GAA man, doesn't matter a jot what part I live in
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on January 31, 2019, 12:22:15 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 30, 2019, 04:37:26 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 30, 2019, 02:23:48 PM
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Quote from: Maroon Manc on January 29, 2019, 01:17:34 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.

No point in putting any effort into it considering it won't be around come championship.

There were 3 or 4 clear mark's by Galway that the ref didnt blow for. It's like he wasnt aware of the rule, although he may just not have whistled in play on opportunities such as Heaney's goal chance. Cooke was attempting to "play quarterback" and set up marks with kicks in but badly misjudged them on a couple of occasions straight to defenders. Comer/Burke, with Conroy providing, would look made for winning marks but as you say i'd say Walsh has put zero stock on the new rules with championship getting the full focus this year

I like Cooke but he gives the ball away too easily, I've seen him kick scores with both feet from huge distances but then again I've seen him miss right in front of the posts like he did against Kerry last July. Playing Sigerson is getting in the way too. Kieran Molloy too can be a bit wasteful in possession too, needs to cut that out as he's got every attribute to be a brilliant wing back.

Cooke is super talented. Can fetch high ball and kick huge points with both feet. Fairly mobile too. Can get up and down the field. Just a bit lax at times with his distribution but easy to forget that these are still young lads and have a few rough edges to knock off yet.

I think his ceiling is probably higher than any other Galway midfielder because of his natural ability. I mean Tom Flynn (who has been great the past year) can't kick scores like Cooke can. Just up to him to put in the work now.

Flynn's a much better player than he's given credit for, have seen him at Intermediate kicking incredible scores and he was a speedy natural forward when younger apparently. It's like he's told not to shoot for Galway. Granted probably not as much natural football ability as Cooke, who's somewhat similar to Conroy, for better and worse
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on January 31, 2019, 10:05:15 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on January 30, 2019, 01:37:46 PM
Is charging with the elbow straight out in front not endangerment as is constantly done by Aiden O Shea but he is never pulled for it, or maybe his elbow has a soft centre like the rest of this rhubarb team ::)

Same Soft centre that's beat your hardy bucks everytime in both league and championship.  Shameful record
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on January 31, 2019, 11:44:36 PM
The times they are a changing
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 01, 2019, 09:37:00 PM
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Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 01, 2019, 09:38:51 PM
3 changes to the Galway team that started against Cavan. Out Ruairí Lavelle,Liam Silke,Ian Burke and In Maghnus Breathnach,Gareth Bradshaw,Barry McHugh
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 01, 2019, 09:45:16 PM
Surprised Cooke is starting. He must be wrecked. Been playing midweek and weekend for the past few weeks.

Wynne is a worry. Not sure he's quite up to this level of football but limited options with players unavailable. Hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 01, 2019, 09:51:21 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 01, 2019, 09:45:16 PM
Surprised Cooke is starting. He must be wrecked. Been playing midweek and weekend for the past few weeks.

Wynne is a worry. Not sure he's quite up to this level of football but limited options with players unavailable. Hope I'm wrong.
Agreed he's not an intercounty standard defender unfortunately.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 01, 2019, 10:16:39 PM
Not convinced by Duggan either to be honest, he was functional last year but that's about it. Hopefully Breathnach has one of his good games, he's capable of having absolute stinkers. Think we'll see changes to be honest. McHugh wasn't fit enough for the bench last week but he's ready to start against the Dubs this week? Could be a change there.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mouview on February 02, 2019, 01:45:46 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on February 01, 2019, 10:16:39 PM
Not convinced by Duggan either to be honest, he was functional last year but that's about it. Hopefully Breathnach has one of his good games, he's capable of having absolute stinkers. Think we'll see changes to be honest. McHugh wasn't fit enough for the bench last week but he's ready to start against the Dubs this week? Could be a change there.

What did Lavelle do wrong to lose his place? Given his most recent big game appearance, Magnus doesn't inspire total confidence. As usual, that Galway team is so mixed up they might actually confuse the Dubs so much into defeat.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 02, 2019, 09:12:45 AM
Quote from: mouview on February 02, 2019, 01:45:46 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on February 01, 2019, 10:16:39 PM
Not convinced by Duggan either to be honest, he was functional last year but that's about it. Hopefully Breathnach has one of his good games, he's capable of having absolute stinkers. Think we'll see changes to be honest. McHugh wasn't fit enough for the bench last week but he's ready to start against the Dubs this week? Could be a change there.

What did Lavelle do wrong to lose his place? Given his most recent big game appearance, Magnus doesn't inspire total confidence. As usual, that Galway team is so mixed up they might actually confuse the Dubs so much into defeat.
Pretty sure it's a case of giving Breathnach a chance as opposed to Lavelle being dropped.
O Beolain played against the Dubs in Pearse last year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 02, 2019, 10:47:53 AM
I suppose we have very little hope of overturning Monaghan.
Especially with Donie Smith out leaving us without our 3 class forwards of the last few years.
Hopefully with our emerging defensive improvenents we can keep McManus from running riot but we'll likely fall short at the other end.
Just saw on stolen-sheep we're without 17 players who played in last year's Championship between injury, retirement,  travel, hurling and maybe not invited back.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 02:03:09 PM
Dublin

1. Evan Comerford (Ballymun Kickhams)
2. Eric Lowndes (St Peregrine's)
3. Michael Fitzsimons (Cuala)
4. Eoin Murchan (Na Fianna)
5. James McCarthy (Ballymun Kickhams)
6. Jonny Cooper (Na Fianna)
7. John Small (Ballymun Kickhams)
8. Brian Fenton (Raheny)
9. Michael Darragh Macauley (Ballyboden St Enda's)
10. Brian Howard (Raheny)
11. Cormac Costello (Whitehall Colmcille)
12. Niall Scully (Templeogue Synge Street)
13. Paul Mannion (Kilmacud Crokes)
14. Dean Rock (Ballymun Kickhams)
15. Ryan Basquel (Ballyboden St Enda's)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 06:58:26 PM
Macauley,Howard not starting for Dublin, Bugler,Flatman starting instead.  Galway Duane,Darcy starting for Galway instead of McHugh,Wynne.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 02, 2019, 07:11:56 PM
Great start by the tribesmen, playing great football.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 07:17:22 PM
Galway tactically well set up so far. 15 mins played Dublin 0-2 Galway 0-3
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 02, 2019, 07:21:50 PM
Cunningham should have buried that goal!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 07:39:13 PM
HT Dublin 0-6 Galway 0-5.
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 07:45:21 PM
Low scoring but a better game than the score line would suggest.

Cormac Costello drifting into space to kick 0-3 so far.

Cunningham should probably have buried his goal chance.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 02, 2019, 07:50:04 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 07:45:21 PM
Low scoring but a better game than the score line would suggest.

Cormac Costello drifting into space to kick 0-3 so far.

Cunningham should probably have buried his goal chance.
Yeah should have stuck it.
Did well to beat the defender on the end line but dragged his shot.
Very little direct ball going into the ff line.
We're hanging in there but Dubs look dangerous every time they attack whereas we are more labored.
4 excellent scores from play by McDaid & Cooke
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 07:57:33 PM
Dublin led by 2 points at half time last weekend. Can Galway do as Monaghan did 2nd half against Dublin?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 08:03:32 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 07:57:33 PM
Dublin led by 2 points at half time last weekend. Can Galway do as Monaghan did 2nd half against Dublin?

Not as easy in CP I fear.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 02, 2019, 08:06:14 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 08:03:32 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 07:57:33 PM
Dublin led by 2 points at half time last weekend. Can Galway do as Monaghan did 2nd half against Dublin?

Not as easy in CP I fear.
Why Cunningham's mark not given there?
We have to work very hard to create any scoring chances
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 08:07:04 PM
Dublin can be as defensive as anyone but they always put pressure on the ball carrier. Galway still too often stand off attackers and let them take a free shot.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 08:07:58 PM
Quote from: galwayman on February 02, 2019, 08:06:14 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 08:03:32 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 07:57:33 PM
Dublin led by 2 points at half time last weekend. Can Galway do as Monaghan did 2nd half against Dublin?

Not as easy in CP I fear.
Why Cunningham's mark not given there?
We have to work very hard to create any scoring chances

Was kicked from just inside the 45.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 08:16:56 PM
55 mins gone Dublin 0-11 Galway 0-6. The Dubs finding more space to shoot in this 2nd half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: sligoman2 on February 02, 2019, 08:17:40 PM
Can't watch it anymore, just switched to hurling.
Football is in a very sad state, very low entertainment value....
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 02, 2019, 08:21:19 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 08:07:04 PM
Dublin can be as defensive as anyone but they always put pressure on the ball carrier. Galway still too often stand off attackers and let them take a free shot.
Agreed having a system is one thing but we do stand off the shooter far too much.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 08:22:07 PM
60 mins gone Dublin 1-13 Galway 0-7. Breathnach should have done better on that goal.
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Post by: galwayman on February 02, 2019, 08:26:31 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 08:22:07 PM
60 mins gone Dublin 1-13 Galway 0-7. Breathnach should have done better on that goal.
He's a disaster waiting to happen always has been.
Had a great season at club level but huge step up
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 02, 2019, 08:29:55 PM
Monaghan team for tomorrow:

Beggan
Duffy
Boyle
R Wylie
Ward
Kerr
Walshe
Hughes
McAdam
Kelly
Malone
Doogan
McCarthy
McCarron
Bannigan

Subs:
S Garland
D Wylie
O'Connell
Corey
Mone
Carey
McAnespie
D Garland
McManus
O'Hanlon
McGinn
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 02, 2019, 08:30:51 PM
Will be the expected result based on the players available to us right now.  Very poor overall. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 08:35:05 PM
FT Dublin 1-15 Galway 0-7. The tribesmen fell away badly in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 08:37:30 PM
Some game from Costello. Dublin a different beast inside CP. Annoying how few mistakes they make when you see our own lads making crazy passes or trying low percentage shots. Dublin decision making is usually top class. They are as defensive as anyone when they want to be though but counter attack very efficiently.

0-7 wont win many games needless to say.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 02, 2019, 09:14:51 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 08:35:05 PM
FT Dublin 1-15 Galway 0-7. The tribesmen fell away badly in the 2nd half.

These things come in cycles. Galway just have to hang around until this Dublin cycle finishes.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 02, 2019, 09:18:01 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 02, 2019, 08:17:40 PM
Can't watch it anymore, just switched to hurling.
Football is in a very sad state, very low entertainment value....

Unless you have a dog in the fight, football is a very hard watch alright.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 02, 2019, 09:36:54 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 02, 2019, 09:18:01 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 02, 2019, 08:17:40 PM
Can't watch it anymore, just switched to hurling.
Football is in a very sad state, very low entertainment value....

Unless you have a dog in the fight, football is a very hard watch alright.
Did the same as Sligo.
Nearly impossible to watch a game as a neutral any more.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 02, 2019, 09:53:02 PM
Big crowd of 14,502. The Dubs were out in numbers tonight! Big travelling support from Galway as well.

Division One football is where it is at. And the numbers prove it!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: sligoman2 on February 02, 2019, 10:06:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 02, 2019, 09:36:54 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 02, 2019, 09:18:01 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 02, 2019, 08:17:40 PM
Can't watch it anymore, just switched to hurling.
Football is in a very sad state, very low entertainment value....

Unless you have a dog in the fight, football is a very hard watch alright.
Did the same as Sligo.
Nearly impossible to watch a game as a neutral any more.

I thought all lockouts had to land outside the 50 yard line?  The short kick outs are terrible, put it out past the 50 and at least let there be a chance of the other team getting the ball.  Sorry I don't mean to start another rant on the demise of football but it is depressing.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: sligoman2 on February 02, 2019, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 02, 2019, 10:06:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 02, 2019, 09:36:54 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 02, 2019, 09:18:01 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on February 02, 2019, 08:17:40 PM
Can't watch it anymore, just switched to hurling.
Football is in a very sad state, very low entertainment value....

Unless you have a dog in the fight, football is a very hard watch alright.
Did the same as Sligo.
Nearly impossible to watch a game as a neutral any more.

I thought all kickouts had to land outside the 50 yard line?  The short kick outs are terrible, put it out past the 50 and at least let there be a chance of the other team getting the ball.  Sorry I don't mean to start another rant on the demise of football but it is depressing.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 02, 2019, 10:16:13 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 02, 2019, 09:53:02 PM
Big crowd of 14,502.
Poor turn out for Croker.
Could have played it in Parnell Park.
Sligo -that requiremt for kick outs to go beyond the 45 was dropped at an early stage.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 02, 2019, 10:18:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 02, 2019, 10:16:13 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 02, 2019, 09:53:02 PM
Big crowd of 14,502.
Poor turn out for Croker.
Could have played it in Parnell Park.
Sligo -that requiremt for kick outs to go beyond the 45 was dropped at an early stage.

Yeah, the spring series has lost its appeal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 10:25:20 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 02, 2019, 09:53:02 PM
Big crowd of 14,502. The Dubs were out in numbers tonight! Big travelling support from Galway as well.

Division One football is where it is at. And the numbers prove it!
I presume that attendance was for the 3 games played in Croke Park
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rodney trotter on February 02, 2019, 10:35:05 PM
Dublin attendances have been on the slide, bar the All Ireland  final last year the crowds not as big previous years.
There wasn't going to be a big tonight, with the Rugby only finishing a while before and only beginning of February.
Dublin bring good crowds to away games. The supporters possibly bored of Croke Park, knowing Dublin will stroll to a win. After so many Leinster and League titles
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 02, 2019, 10:39:33 PM
Whatever team you have out you should be able to get more than two scores in a half. Score difference could be the difference between staying up and relegation so not a good night at all for Galway, another very tough match coming up next weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 10:52:02 PM
Cooke and McDaid probably Galway's two best players in the first half. McDaid off injured at half time and Cooke was absolutely bollocksed not long after playing 3 games in 6 days. 

Not his fault they lost but Bhreathnach seems involved in too many dodgy goals for my tastes.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: cornetto on February 02, 2019, 10:59:50 PM
Not a great night between rugby and football,hey first half not bad we were competitive but yes the dubs took over in second half and gave us a right beating.it's not all despair, they are the benchmark and only have three or more to come back!😀
Would you believe instead of a night in coppers,a galway selection will play corofin tomorrow,now that's co- operation!!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 02, 2019, 11:33:18 PM
At least the rubby crowd are gone very quiet tonight.
The East Brits must have won ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 03, 2019, 12:04:57 AM
I had a feeling Dubs would do that to Galway, Cavan are very ordinary and Galway looked just as ordinary last week.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2019, 12:45:30 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 03, 2019, 12:04:57 AM
I had a feeling Dubs would do that to Galway, Cavan are very ordinary and Galway looked just as ordinary last week.

Galway have a lot of good players to come back yet but that still won't challenge Dublin in the summer without a change of approach.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 03, 2019, 09:04:16 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2019, 12:45:30 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 03, 2019, 12:04:57 AM
I had a feeling Dubs would do that to Galway, Cavan are very ordinary and Galway looked just as ordinary last week.

Galway have a lot of good players to come back yet but that still won't challenge Dublin in the summer without a change of approach.

Unfortunately there are 30 counties in the same boat as Galway.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 03, 2019, 10:14:24 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2019, 12:45:30 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 03, 2019, 12:04:57 AM
I had a feeling Dubs would do that to Galway, Cavan are very ordinary and Galway looked just as ordinary last week.

Galway have a lot of good players to come back yet but that still won't challenge Dublin in the summer without a change of approach.

Agreed, I know it's not your strongest team. Point I was making was ye are pretty weak at the moment and that beating was expected by me. Also agree anyone playing very defensive like Galway will not beat Dublin.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrdeeds on February 03, 2019, 02:15:37 PM
Good start for Cavan. 5 2 up. Kerry playing very negatively. All 15 in their own half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 02:22:10 PM
One change to Monaghan's named team - Carey in for McAdam. I was expecting a couple more changes considering the strength of the named bench. At least we'll have a few good options for impacts subs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrdeeds on February 03, 2019, 02:27:43 PM
7 6 Cavan now. Kerry haven't scored from play.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 02:38:51 PM
Listening to the Cavan game on Northern Sound as I wait on some word of the Monaghan game. Cavan up 4 now, Kerry sound like they're absolute muck.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrdeeds on February 03, 2019, 02:40:27 PM
Cavan 11 7 Ht and should be more. One Kerry point from play. They are so negative and defensive.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2019, 02:46:48 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 03, 2019, 02:40:27 PM
Cavan 11 7 Ht and should be more. One Kerry point from play. They are so negative and defensive.

Jesus! How did they beat Tyrone so well and throwing up that muck! Makes you wonder how Tyrone are
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on February 03, 2019, 02:56:45 PM
Quote from: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 02:38:51 PM
Listening to the Cavan game on Northern Sound as I wait on some word of the Monaghan game. Cavan up 4 now, Kerry sound like they're absolute muck.

Roscommon 4-3 up 22 mins
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 03:15:38 PM
Quote from: straightred on February 03, 2019, 02:56:45 PM
Quote from: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 02:38:51 PM
Listening to the Cavan game on Northern Sound as I wait on some word of the Monaghan game. Cavan up 4 now, Kerry sound like they're absolute muck.

Roscommon 4-3 up 22 mins

6-4 HT. Monaghan been very poor and Roscommon had a rake of wides as well as missing a one on one against Beggan. Hopefully a similar 2nd half performance and bench impact as last week.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrdeeds on February 03, 2019, 03:17:22 PM
12 11 Cavan now. Kerry couple more scores from play.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: clarshack on February 03, 2019, 03:22:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2019, 02:46:48 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 03, 2019, 02:40:27 PM
Cavan 11 7 Ht and should be more. One Kerry point from play. They are so negative and defensive.

Jesus! How did they beat Tyrone so well and throwing up that muck! Makes you wonder how Tyrone are

Based on what I've seen so far in Healy park, Tyrone are brutal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrdeeds on February 03, 2019, 03:26:29 PM
Kerry one up. Nearly time up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 03:27:32 PM
Cavan throwing away a golden opportunity by the sounds of it. Had a man advantage for 10 minutes but didn't score in that period and let Kerry into the lead.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 03:28:40 PM
McManus on for Bannigan at half time.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 03:33:35 PM
7-6 to Monaghan in Dr Hyde after 5 minutes of the 2nd half, sounds like a different team. Hopefully they keep it up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 03, 2019, 03:35:32 PM
Cavan and Ros playing well
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrdeeds on February 03, 2019, 03:38:20 PM
Kerry win 16 13.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 03, 2019, 04:08:48 PM
Great win for Mayo

Tyrone a start like last year
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 04:11:51 PM
After a promising start to the half by Monaghan, they fell away and didn't push on. Roscommon fully deserving of the win. Penalty the difference in the end. Some change to the hype after the Dubs win, for O'Hanlon too - from being the match winner to getting sent off.

Very disappointing but not the end of the world at this time of the year. As long as they regroup and learn for the rest of the league and especially the championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oakleafgael on February 03, 2019, 04:27:12 PM
Tyrone awful again. Only Peter Harte making an impact. Andy Moran brilliant for Mayo. Aidan O'Shea letting himself down again with the amateur dramatics again.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 03, 2019, 04:38:23 PM
What a fantastic win for the Rossies. Big scalp
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2019, 04:56:39 PM
That was pure muck by Tyrone, long winter, short summer based on that
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: J70 on February 03, 2019, 05:51:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2019, 04:56:39 PM
That was pure muck by Tyrone, long winter, short summer based on that

Yes, but it is probably NOT going to be based on what happens at the end of January/beginning of February, is it?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 03, 2019, 05:57:39 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 03, 2019, 04:38:23 PM
What a fantastic win for the Rossies. Big scalp
That's it in a nutshell, every team will want to beat the team that beat the Dubs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2019, 05:57:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2019, 04:56:39 PM
That was pure muck by Tyrone, long winter, short summer based on that

Not unusual for Tyrone to start the year slow though. Admittedly they are not usually quite this poor.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 03, 2019, 06:06:05 PM
Healy Park looked to be in its usual shite condition. What do they use the ground for during the week? mud wrestling?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2019, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2019, 05:57:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2019, 04:56:39 PM
That was pure muck by Tyrone, long winter, short summer based on that

Not unusual for Tyrone to start the year slow though. Admittedly they are not usually quite this poor.

Never seen the game v Kerry,  but to score just 3 points up to the 42 minute at home, will tell you all you need to know.

The free taker was dreadful, fielding was awful.. Mikey would have a lot of work to improve that!

Kieth Higgins goal brilliant and the oldest man on the pitch the best player
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: spuds on February 03, 2019, 06:12:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2019, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2019, 05:57:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2019, 04:56:39 PM
That was pure muck by Tyrone, long winter, short summer based on that

Not unusual for Tyrone to start the year slow though. Admittedly they are not usually quite this poor.

Never seen the game v Kerry,  but to score just 3 points up to the 42 minute at home, will tell you all you need to know.

The free taker was dreadful, fielding was awful.. Mikey would have a lot of work to improve that!

Kieth Higgins goal brilliant and the oldest man on the pitch the best player
Higgins 34 shortly. Andy Moran 36 at end of year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 03, 2019, 07:28:25 PM
Ah the NFL with its thrills and spills, the sooner those the top realize this is the tiered competition they seek the better.

Very impressive win for Mayo must be record win for them in Omagh? and more than makes up for their 12 point home defeat last year. Not just two defeats for Tyrone but just 0-7,0-10 the last two weekends is very poor.

Cavan with another competitive showing in Div 1 but Kerry like Galway last week had that little bit extra to grab the victory.

The rossies up and running with a win against the odds. The 2nd AI semi finalist they have beaten in the last 3 weekends and holding teams to low scores. Monaghan's lack of consistency strikes again though.

Roll on week 3.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 03, 2019, 07:45:48 PM
A right humdinger in the Hyde as we overcame all sorts of handicaps to beat mighty Monaghan.
2 men in the sin bin at the same time, too many wides, Conor McManus, Harney hobbling, an Ulster Ref, our best forward suspended....... 16 of last year's panel not available
Amazing what organisation, attitude and organised defending can achieve.
Helps when you have a Manager who picks the best available players and then sets about making them competitive Inter County footballers.
Dalys massive today and Killoran continues to excel (at the right time today).
Very positive day and we should have a right cut at staying in Div 1 now.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: SouthDublinBro on February 03, 2019, 08:02:01 PM
Kevin McStay was holding back that Roscommon team for years.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 03, 2019, 08:15:05 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 03, 2019, 07:45:48 PM
A right humdinger in the Hyde as we overcame all sorts of handicaps to beat mighty Monaghan.
2 men in the sin bin at the same time, too many wides, Conor McManus, Harney hobbling, an Ulster Ref, our best forward suspended....... 16 of last year's panel not available
Amazing what organisation, attitude and organised defending can achieve.
Helps when you have a Manager who picks the best available players and then sets about making them competitive Inter County footballers.
Dalys massive today and Killoran continues to excel (at the right time today).
Very positive day and we should have a right cut at staying in Div 1 now.
No forwards playing in defence helps
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oliverkelly on February 03, 2019, 08:19:39 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 03, 2019, 08:15:05 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 03, 2019, 07:45:48 PM
A right humdinger in the Hyde as we overcame all sorts of handicaps to beat mighty Monaghan.
2 men in the sin bin at the same time, too many wides, Conor McManus, Harney hobbling, an Ulster Ref, our best forward suspended....... 16 of last year's panel not available
Amazing what organisation, attitude and organised defending can achieve.
Helps when you have a Manager who picks the best available players and then sets about making them competitive Inter County footballers.
Dalys massive today and Killoran continues to excel (at the right time today).
Very positive day and we should have a right cut at staying in Div 1 now.
No forwards playing in defence helps
Quote from: Rossfan on February 03, 2019, 07:45:48 PM
A right humdinger in the Hyde as we overcame all sorts of handicaps to beat mighty Monaghan.
2 men in the sin bin at the same time, too many wides, Conor McManus, Harney hobbling, an Ulster Ref, our best forward suspended....... 16 of last year's panel not available
Amazing what organisation, attitude and organised defending can achieve.
Helps when you have a Manager who picks the best available players and then sets about making them competitive Inter County footballers.
Dalys massive today and Killoran continues to excel (at the right time today).
Very positive day and we should have a right cut at staying in Div 1 now.

The at the right time re killoran is right. That he was average for 50 minutes and could have been taken off then finished unreal caught two unreal balls set up kilroy and maybe luckily set up Harney for the penalty. Dalys and all defenders excellent. Great win and fully deserved. Taught ref was hard on us. Cox was quite from play and done a lot of tracking back. Cox some outragous frees with the outside of the boot
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 03, 2019, 09:19:59 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on February 03, 2019, 04:27:12 PM
Tyrone awful again. Only Peter Harte making an impact. Andy Moran brilliant for Mayo. Aidan O'Shea letting himself down again with the amateur dramatics again.
That was a straight red all day long, cheap, cowardly shot
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 03, 2019, 09:56:40 PM
Galway were shocking yesterday, no imagination, no common sense and looked like they had decided before the game that Dublin were going to win this, what's the point of trying. Breathnach wasn't the answer in goal 4 years ago, he still isn't. SA O Ceallaigh can't defend without fouling, our half back line can't defend. Midfield was a disaster, Duggan isn't a shadow of the player he was last year, putting Tom Flynn in the FF line showed a bit of outside the box thinking but then they don't kick in any long ball into him  ::) Cooke, McDaid and Sean Kelly were the only ones to show a bit of fight yesterday. Shane Walsh, yet again, flattered to deceive, when the pressure came on he didn't want to know. Johnny Duane in the forward line is another ridiculous decision. There's plenty of excuses being offered for the pathetic performance between club commitments, injuries, fitness levels etc but that wasn't good enough. 

Quote from: cornetto on February 02, 2019, 10:59:50 PM
Would you believe instead of a night in coppers,a galway selection will play corofin tomorrow,now that's co- operation!!!

I wouldn't call that cooperation, I'd call that flogging players who have a busy enough schedule without adding extra matches. Peter Cooke in particular has had a seriously demanding month and he's not finished yet.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 03, 2019, 10:24:14 PM
I think it's going to be a struggle to stay up with tough away matches to come (I don't think Tyrone will be as bad by the time Round 7 comes along), realistically Galway have to win both remaining home games and see if that's enough. The way they are playing at the moment I don't see any points to be had in Monaghan next weekend.
It's not great at the minute but we'll have to reserve judgement until the summer is over, no point getting too up or down in the first week of February.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 03, 2019, 10:26:52 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 03, 2019, 10:24:14 PM
I think it's going to be a struggle to stay up with tough away matches to come (I don't think Tyrone will be as bad by the time Round 7 comes along), realistically Galway have to win both remaining home games and see if that's enough. The way they are playing at the moment I don't see any points to be had in Monaghan next weekend.
It's not great at the minute but we'll have to reserve judgement until the summer is over, no point getting too up or down in the first week of February.

Enough going on to set alarm bells ringing though! We also don't have a consistent free taker, Shane Walsh misses as many as he scores, in all likelihood McHugh won't be playing come championship and he's inconsistent enough with them too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 03, 2019, 10:36:19 PM
I didn't expect anything different from the league this year for Galway then what's transpired so far, as a result I'm not ready to sound the alarm bells just yet but obviously performances like Saturday night are not good enough at all at this level.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2019, 10:38:26 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on February 03, 2019, 10:26:52 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 03, 2019, 10:24:14 PM
I think it's going to be a struggle to stay up with tough away matches to come (I don't think Tyrone will be as bad by the time Round 7 comes along), realistically Galway have to win both remaining home games and see if that's enough. The way they are playing at the moment I don't see any points to be had in Monaghan next weekend.
It's not great at the minute but we'll have to reserve judgement until the summer is over, no point getting too up or down in the first week of February.

Enough going on to set alarm bells ringing though! We also don't have a consistent free taker, Shane Walsh misses as many as he scores, in all likelihood McHugh won't be playing come championship and he's inconsistent enough with them too.

Not sure we'll be able to read much from the league to be honest bar Kevin Walsh is not going to change. We might have 4 possibly 5 different forwards on the field in the Summer than we had against Dublin. A few more changes further back.

Think we have to win our two remaining home games because I don't see us picking up any points on the road.

Felt for Cooke the last day. Very good in the first half but was running on fumes by half time. Only for all the players unavailable I'm sure Walsh probably wouldn't be using him so much given his schedule.

McDaid and Sean Andy injury doubts now for Monaghan as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 04, 2019, 11:41:49 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 03, 2019, 05:57:39 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 03, 2019, 04:38:23 PM
What a fantastic win for the Rossies. Big scalp
That's it in a nutshell, every team will want to beat the team that beat the Dubs.
Especially Cavan

EPIC by PATRICK KAVANAGH, 1938

I have lived in important places, times
When great events were decided : who owned
That half a rood of rock, a no-man's land
Surrounded by our pitchfork-armed claims.

I heard the Duffys shouting "Damn your soul"
And old McCabe stripped to the waist, seen
Step the plot defying blue cast-steel -
"Here is the march along these iron stones."

That was the year of the Munich bother. Which
Was most important ? I inclined
To lose my faith in Ballyrush and Gortin
Till Homer's ghost came whispering to my mind.
He said : I made the Iliad from such
A local row. Gods make their own importance.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 04, 2019, 11:45:24 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2019, 10:38:26 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on February 03, 2019, 10:26:52 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 03, 2019, 10:24:14 PM
I think it's going to be a struggle to stay up with tough away matches to come (I don't think Tyrone will be as bad by the time Round 7 comes along), realistically Galway have to win both remaining home games and see if that's enough. The way they are playing at the moment I don't see any points to be had in Monaghan next weekend.
It's not great at the minute but we'll have to reserve judgement until the summer is over, no point getting too up or down in the first week of February.

Enough going on to set alarm bells ringing though! We also don't have a consistent free taker, Shane Walsh misses as many as he scores, in all likelihood McHugh won't be playing come championship and he's inconsistent enough with them too.




Not sure we'll be able to read much from the league to be honest bar Kevin Walsh is not going to change. We might have 4 possibly 5 different forwards on the field in the Summer than we had against Dublin. A few more changes further back.

Think we have to win our two remaining home games because I don't see us picking up any points on the road.

Felt for Cooke the last day. Very good in the first half but was running on fumes by half time. Only for all the players unavailable I'm sure Walsh probably wouldn't be using him so much given his schedule.

McDaid and Sean Andy injury doubts now for Monaghan as well.

Sure it's only the league

Mayo on 4
5 teams on 2
Tyrone and Cavan on zero

apart from the dubs the teams are mediocre enough. Aithnionn ciarog ciarog eile


https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/dublin-open-up-the-engine-and-leave-galway-standing-still-1.3780604
   "We were still well in the game at 0-9 to 0-6, but had 12 kicked turnovers in the second half, which is just unacceptable. Allowing Dublin counter-attack by kicking away so many stupid balls is going to put you under pressure. I'd be very unhappy with that, and also there was a stage when the goal went in, the reaction to that wouldn't have been that pleasing. We allowed them fetch a lot of ball in the air as well without contesting properly.

"We'll take the learnings from this. It's important that we look and say, 'What did we do well and what did we do poorly?' When the goal went in I have to say we wouldn't be happy that maybe defeat was accepted at that time. Maybe fatigue kicked in a bit, as I said we haven't as much work done, and losing Cillian McDaid at half-time was a big loss."
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 04, 2019, 12:43:19 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2019, 10:38:26 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on February 03, 2019, 10:26:52 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 03, 2019, 10:24:14 PM
I think it's going to be a struggle to stay up with tough away matches to come (I don't think Tyrone will be as bad by the time Round 7 comes along), realistically Galway have to win both remaining home games and see if that's enough. The way they are playing at the moment I don't see any points to be had in Monaghan next weekend.
It's not great at the minute but we'll have to reserve judgement until the summer is over, no point getting too up or down in the first week of February.

Enough going on to set alarm bells ringing though! We also don't have a consistent free taker, Shane Walsh misses as many as he scores, in all likelihood McHugh won't be playing come championship and he's inconsistent enough with them too.

Not sure we'll be able to read much from the league to be honest bar Kevin Walsh is not going to change. We might have 4 possibly 5 different forwards on the field in the Summer than we had against Dublin. A few more changes further back.

Think we have to win our two remaining home games because I don't see us picking up any points on the road.

Felt for Cooke the last day. Very good in the first half but was running on fumes by half time. Only for all the players unavailable I'm sure Walsh probably wouldn't be using him so much given his schedule.

McDaid and Sean Andy injury doubts now for Monaghan as well.

Once I saw the team and the bench I didn't expect anything else then a drubbing. Its the league and we all knew it would be a struggle with the players that are missing and where Galways fitness is at compared to last year. Duggan, Cooke & D'Arcy all played full games during the week and all ran out of steam early in the 2nd half.

Player wise there were a couple of positives in Cooke & McDaid. If Cooke continues to play like he did in the first half he has to start come the championship as does McDaid. McDaid needs games but given what I saw I think he can be a big player come the summer.

Duggan was woeful & Shane Walsh was far too quiet but it did look like they paid him special attention. O'Donnell looked far too slow when in possession whilst Cunningham looks like he can win his own ball but not overly comfortable when he has it, he's another one who needs a lot more matches.

Armstrong, Cunnane & Cooney are making up the numbers and won't be near the panel come the summer so it was nice touch bringing them all on in Croke Park.

Tactically if he's going to continue to play this way I just don't understand why more pressure isn't applied to the opposition when they head inside Galway's 45m line. There's no way near enough pressure applied to the man with the ball.

Whatever happens during the league I'll reserve judgement until the championship but I do think this is a very good panel when everyone is fit. When you consider McDaid & Silke and even Dylan Wall are back and the likes of Cooke & Molloy are a year older all combined with the year they had last year Galway then I expect them do better in the championship than in 2018. There's a lot of quality on the panel and the vast majority of the best players are aged under 25/26
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 04, 2019, 03:05:23 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 04, 2019, 03:08:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 04, 2019, 11:45:24 AM
Sure it's only the league

Fair enough but I guarantee it won't feel like that if we go back down into Division Two. Galway need to be showing a lot better by the 24th when Kerry come to Tuam.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 04, 2019, 05:14:49 PM
Ros v Tyrone next Sunday Páirc de hÍde 2pm.
That will be 3 of last year's All Ireland semi Finalists plus the 2nd best team in Ireland in 4 successive weeks.
Heady days.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: highorlow on February 04, 2019, 05:17:45 PM
QuoteRos v Tyrone next Sunday Páirc de hÍde 2pm.
That will be 3 of last year's All Ireland semi Finalists plus the 2nd best team in Ireland in 4 successive weeks.
Heady days.

When was the Ross A v B match?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Ball Hopper on February 04, 2019, 05:54:50 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 04, 2019, 11:45:24 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2019, 10:38:26 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on February 03, 2019, 10:26:52 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 03, 2019, 10:24:14 PM
I think it's going to be a struggle to stay up with tough away matches to come (I don't think Tyrone will be as bad by the time Round 7 comes along), realistically Galway have to win both remaining home games and see if that's enough. The way they are playing at the moment I don't see any points to be had in Monaghan next weekend.
It's not great at the minute but we'll have to reserve judgement until the summer is over, no point getting too up or down in the first week of February.

Enough going on to set alarm bells ringing though! We also don't have a consistent free taker, Shane Walsh misses as many as he scores, in all likelihood McHugh won't be playing come championship and he's inconsistent enough with them too.





Sure it's only the league

Mayo on 4
5 teams on 2
Tyrone and Cavan on zero

apart from the dubs the teams are mediocre enough. Aithnionn ciarog ciarog eile


Count again, economics boy.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 04, 2019, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on February 04, 2019, 05:54:50 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 04, 2019, 11:45:24 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2019, 10:38:26 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on February 03, 2019, 10:26:52 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 03, 2019, 10:24:14 PM
I think it's going to be a struggle to stay up with tough away matches to come (I don't think Tyrone will be as bad by the time Round 7 comes along), realistically Galway have to win both remaining home games and see if that's enough. The way they are playing at the moment I don't see any points to be had in Monaghan next weekend.
It's not great at the minute but we'll have to reserve judgement until the summer is over, no point getting too up or down in the first week of February.

Enough going on to set alarm bells ringing though! We also don't have a consistent free taker, Shane Walsh misses as many as he scores, in all likelihood McHugh won't be playing come championship and he's inconsistent enough with them too.





Sure it's only the league

Mayo on 4
5 teams on 2
Tyrone and Cavan on zero

apart from the dubs the teams are mediocre enough. Aithnionn ciarog ciarog eile


Count again, economics boy.
good man yourself
Doesn't change the fact that the teams are mediocre
Football is a mess
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 04, 2019, 07:59:06 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 04, 2019, 11:41:49 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 03, 2019, 05:57:39 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 03, 2019, 04:38:23 PM
What a fantastic win for the Rossies. Big scalp
That's it in a nutshell, every team will want to beat the team that beat the Dubs.
Especially Cavan

EPIC by PATRICK KAVANAGH, 1938

I have lived in important places, times
When great events were decided : who owned
That half a rood of rock, a no-man's land
Surrounded by our pitchfork-armed claims.

I heard the Duffys shouting "Damn your soul"
And old McCabe stripped to the waist, seen
Step the plot defying blue cast-steel -
"Here is the march along these iron stones."

That was the year of the Munich bother. Which
Was most important ? I inclined
To lose my faith in Ballyrush and Gortin
Till Homer's ghost came whispering to my mind.
He said : I made the Iliad from such
A local row. Gods make their own importance.
However, it's Galway not Cavan who will be coming to fortress Gratton Park, Inniskeen, birth place of the great bard. The list of those counties who have come a cropper in Inniskeen is mighty, now its Galway's turn to face the epic chop.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 04, 2019, 08:53:54 PM
Fair play Roscommon though needed the kerryman to dig them out of a hole yesterday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 04, 2019, 09:15:18 PM
Just an accident of birth. Pure Roscommon stock.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 04, 2019, 09:48:08 PM
Fergal Gavin's (Galway and Mountbellew Moylough) son Darren came on for Dublin on Saturday night actually, I believe he's fairly highly rated in Dublin according to reports locally.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Gael85 on February 04, 2019, 10:09:54 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on February 04, 2019, 09:48:08 PM
Fergal Gavin's (Galway and Mountbellew Moylough) son Darren came on for Dublin on Saturday night actually, I believe he's fairly highly rated in Dublin according to reports locally.

Yes Darren plays with Lucan Sarsfields. A bit of late developer. Came off the bench against Galway in u21 final two years and won man of the match award. Has plenty of pace but probably needs to fill out more. Could be a long term replacement for MDMA.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 08:13:47 AM
The Dubs haven't been using the mark as Gavin knows come the championship they can handpass and solo teams to death on the break
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 05, 2019, 08:27:57 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 04, 2019, 07:59:06 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 04, 2019, 11:41:49 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 03, 2019, 05:57:39 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 03, 2019, 04:38:23 PM
What a fantastic win for the Rossies. Big scalp
That's it in a nutshell, every team will want to beat the team that beat the Dubs.
Especially Cavan

EPIC by PATRICK KAVANAGH, 1938

I have lived in important places, times
When great events were decided : who owned
That half a rood of rock, a no-man's land
Surrounded by our pitchfork-armed claims.

I heard the Duffys shouting "Damn your soul"
And old McCabe stripped to the waist, seen
Step the plot defying blue cast-steel -
"Here is the march along these iron stones."

That was the year of the Munich bother. Which
Was most important ? I inclined
To lose my faith in Ballyrush and Gortin
Till Homer's ghost came whispering to my mind.
He said : I made the Iliad from such
A local row. Gods make their own importance.
However, it's Galway not Cavan who will be coming to fortress Gratton Park, Inniskeen, birth place of the great bard. The list of those counties who have come a cropper in Inniskeen is mighty, now its Galway's turn to face the epic chop.

Who can forget this classic the last time ye brought us to one of your many shitholes...

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0212/852087-monaghan-and-cavan-play-out-uninspiring-stalemate/
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 05, 2019, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 08:13:47 AM
The Dubs haven't been using the mark as Gavin knows come the championship they can handpass and solo teams to death on the break

Teams  are resorting to hand passing as teams like Roscommon  sticking 15 bodies behind with little ambition of attacking. If you  ever played football you know pointless into 3 full forwards against 14 full backs. Hard to implement zoning players in a half and wouldn't at club level.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 05, 2019, 10:31:57 AM
Quote from: TheMaster on February 05, 2019, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 08:13:47 AM
The Dubs haven't been using the mark as Gavin knows come the championship they can handpass and solo teams to death on the break

Teams  are resorting to hand passing as teams like Roscommon  sticking 15 bodies behind with little ambition of attacking. If you  ever played football you know pointless into 3 full forwards against 14 full backs. Hard to implement zoning players in a half and wouldn't at club level.

Kerry regularly had 15 men behind the ball last Sunday and Cavan worked a number of great marks against them resulting in scores. This then had the effect of Kerry keep more men closer to the FF which then allowed us to run the ball through them. Worked a treat with the wind. Obviously a lot harder against the wind.

Its ideal if you practice on it as the forward just needs to make the catch, without the mark you make the catch turn around and are confronted by 5 defenders and you pass it back out again. I believe Monaghan did something similar against Dublin in Rd 1. Its a shame it isn't being left in place for championship in my opinion.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 04, 2019, 03:05:23 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 11:22:00 AM
Quote from: TheMaster on February 05, 2019, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 08:13:47 AM
The Dubs haven't been using the mark as Gavin knows come the championship they can handpass and solo teams to death on the break

Teams  are resorting to hand passing as teams like Roscommon  sticking 15 bodies behind with little ambition of attacking. If you  ever played football you know pointless into 3 full forwards against 14 full backs. Hard to implement zoning players in a half and wouldn't at club level.
you get the ball up the field quicker than they can drop 15 behind the ball
I have coached to quite a high level
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 05, 2019, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 11:22:00 AM
Quote from: TheMaster on February 05, 2019, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 08:13:47 AM
The Dubs haven't been using the mark as Gavin knows come the championship they can handpass and solo teams to death on the break

Teams  are resorting to hand passing as teams like Roscommon  sticking 15 bodies behind with little ambition of attacking. If you  ever played football you know pointless into 3 full forwards against 14 full backs. Hard to implement zoning players in a half and wouldn't at club level.
you get the ball up the field quicker than they can drop 15 behind the ball
I have coached to quite a high level

I doubt that know. Majority of teams keep at least 10 bodies behind ball regardless if defending or attacking.  Kerry have the best footballers and they can't beat blanket defence
Donegal and Tyrone won sam Maguire with blanket defence but  they had top inside forwards .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: weareros on February 05, 2019, 11:58:57 AM
Quote from: TheMaster on February 05, 2019, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 08:13:47 AM
The Dubs haven't been using the mark as Gavin knows come the championship they can handpass and solo teams to death on the break

Teams  are resorting to hand passing as teams like Roscommon  sticking 15 bodies behind with little ambition of attacking. If you  ever played football you know pointless into 3 full forwards against 14 full backs. Hard to implement zoning players in a half and wouldn't at club level.

In our two league games to date, Roscommon created more scoring chances than both Mayo and Monaghan, and more goal chances too. New manager has been only in the gig since mid November and is dealing with a huge turnover and injuries. I expect when players like Diarmuid Murtagh get back to full fitness, we will see that increase. But the above is fairly lazy analysis that you'd hear on a podcast like GAA Hour.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 05, 2019, 12:08:06 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 04, 2019, 03:05:23 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought in which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 05, 2019, 01:01:12 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 05, 2019, 12:08:06 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 04, 2019, 03:05:23 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.

I don't think an All Ireland final against the Dubs did Tyrone any good . Big tankings in CP on the big day are very hard psychologically
Galway should be thinking about positioning themselves for the post Dubs era
Clare won a handy all Ireland in 2013 when KK got dumped out of the championship early
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 05, 2019, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 05, 2019, 01:01:12 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 05, 2019, 12:08:06 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 04, 2019, 03:05:23 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.

I don't think an All Ireland final against the Dubs did Tyrone any good . Big tankings in CP on the big day are very hard psychologically
Galway should be thinking about positioning themselves for the post Dubs era
Clare won a handy all Ireland in 2013 when KK got dumped out of the championship early

Yes, these things come in cycles. This Dublin cycle should be over in about 5 years, going by their age profile (and them blooding feck all players in the mean time  ;D ). Better for Galway to sit on their hands for now, win Connacht titles and just qualify for the Super 8 (hopefully on the opposite side of the draw to Dublin).  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 05, 2019, 01:16:40 PM
Dublin are gone 2 years past their end of cycle date so or did they start a new one in 2017?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 05, 2019, 01:32:01 PM
GK   1   Stephen Cluxton   
CB   2   Michael Fitzsimons   
FB   3   Rory O'Carroll   
CB   4   Cian O'Sullivan   
WB   5   James McCarthy      
HB   6   Ger Brennan   
WB   7   Kevin Nolan   
MF   8   Denis Bastick   
MF   9   Michael Darragh MacAuley   
WF   10   Paul Flynn      
HF   11   Barry Cahill   
WF   12   Bryan Cullen (c)   
CF   13   Alan Brogan   
FF   14   Diarmuid Connolly   
CF   15   Bernard Brogan

Above is the 2011 AI starting team! The lads in Bold are the players who started the 2018 All Ireland final!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 05, 2019, 01:46:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 05, 2019, 08:27:57 AM

Who can forget this classic the last time ye brought us to one of your many shitholes...

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0212/852087-monaghan-and-cavan-play-out-uninspiring-stalemate/
Blaney could be perceived as a shithole but at least it's not Cavan.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 05, 2019, 01:56:22 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 05, 2019, 01:46:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 05, 2019, 08:27:57 AM

Who can forget this classic the last time ye brought us to one of your many shitholes...

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0212/852087-monaghan-and-cavan-play-out-uninspiring-stalemate/
Blaney could be perceived as a shithole but at least it's not Cavan.

Ah main Street. You will be very welcome to Cavan in the summer to sit in the oldest ground in Ulster, steeped in wonderful history, with its brand new prunty pitch and it wonderful flood lights. You can go out the back and see pictures of famous Cavan all Ireland winners on the walls. Outside the ground you can view the exciting plans for a new centre of excellence. It will be a real treat for you and the travelling Monaghan supporters.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 02:40:23 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 05, 2019, 12:08:06 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 04, 2019, 03:05:23 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought in which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.

Wouldn't be as harsh on Kevin Walsh as some others, will reserve judgment until the championship but can see why others are getting a bit frustrated. I think Galway have the players to play in a more attacking way once everyone is fit although if Galway had opened up against them on Saturday the scoreline would have been a lot more embarrassing then it was given the players available.

I'd like to see Kevin Walsh be a little less pragmatic in his approach, only time will whether he can be.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 05, 2019, 03:32:18 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 02:40:23 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 05, 2019, 12:08:06 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 04, 2019, 03:05:23 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought in which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.

Wouldn't be as harsh on Kevin Walsh as some others, will reserve judgment until the championship but can see why others are getting a bit frustrated. I think Galway have the players to play in a more attacking way once everyone is fit although if Galway had opened up against them on Saturday the scoreline would have been a lot more embarrassing then it was given the players available.

I'd like to see Kevin Walsh be a little less pragmatic in his approach, only time will whether he can be.

Kevin is an accountant so it's no wonder he's so fond of mentioning the bloody end of year accounts so often. Most accountants I know would be fairly risk averse so I wouldn't expect him to change. He replaced Tally with Kevin Stritch who is probably best known for his work with Castleknock in Dublin and they were a very defensive outfit. I think Walsh is who he is at this point. A conservative coach.

That said due to circumstances it's probably unfair to judge him on the league this year. He's pretty much come out and said they are well behind last year's work and are only looking to stay up by any means necessary. Still if they go down there will be serious pressure on them to perform in the Summer. You have John Divilly up at UCD and PJ with the U-20's so there are some of his former teammates knocking around that might become more attractive propositions if he has a bad year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 05, 2019, 04:07:34 PM
We can lament the defensive setup (KW rightly gets some flak however anyone who was up in Antrim in 2012, had to witness the Mayo shellacking in 2013 or one of the many, many one point championship defeats etc. needs to admit that at least the county team is no longer in the gutter) but a bigger issue is that Galway's chance conversion rate simply isn't good enough, lot of talk about the "potential" of the forwards but the fact is they require way too many chances to kick a winning score total, that must change for Galway to in any way improve on last year. Look at the Kerry game last year, they should have beaten them out the gate well before the injury time goal sealed it.
In comparison Dublin are a model of economy with their shot to score ratio on top of all the other great things they do.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 05:25:09 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 05, 2019, 04:07:34 PM
We can lament the defensive setup (KW rightly gets some flak however anyone who was up in Antrim in 2012, had to witness the Mayo shellacking in 2013 or one of the many, many one point championship defeats etc. needs to admit that at least the county team is no longer in the gutter) but a bigger issue is that Galway's chance conversion rate simply isn't good enough, lot of talk about the "potential" of the forwards but the fact is they require way too many chances to kick a winning score total, that must change for Galway to in any way improve on last year. Look at the Kerry game last year, they should have beaten them out the gate well before the injury time goal sealed it.
In comparison Dublin are a model of economy with their shot to score ratio on top of all the other great things they do.
Dubs skill level is much higher than most teams
Kick with both feet, pass off either hand, step off either foot

Plus maximise every advantage going - 3/4 steps extra while bouncing the ball, cutting in front of chasing player while soloing or running, setting screens to get space to shoot.
All highly coachable
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: TheMaster on February 05, 2019, 11:42:48 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 11:22:00 AM
Quote from: TheMaster on February 05, 2019, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 08:13:47 AM
The Dubs haven't been using the mark as Gavin knows come the championship they can handpass and solo teams to death on the break

Teams  are resorting to hand passing as teams like Roscommon  sticking 15 bodies behind with little ambition of attacking. If you  ever played football you know pointless into 3 full forwards against 14 full backs. Hard to implement zoning players in a half and wouldn't at club level.
you get the ball up the field quicker than they can drop 15 behind the ball
I have coached to quite a high level

I doubt that know. Majority of teams keep at least 10 bodies behind ball regardless if defending or attacking.  Kerry have the best footballers and they can't beat blanket defence
Donegal and Tyrone won sam Maguire with blanket defence but  they had top inside forwards .
Fair enough.
Not many teams winning titles with 15 lads behind the ball though, like you said
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: sans pessimism on February 06, 2019, 11:06:28 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 05, 2019, 03:32:18 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 02:40:23 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 05, 2019, 12:08:06 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 04, 2019, 03:05:23 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought in which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.

Wouldn't be as harsh on Kevin Walsh as some others, will reserve judgment until the championship but can see why others are getting a bit frustrated. I think Galway have the players to play in a more attacking way once everyone is fit although if Galway had opened up against them on Saturday the scoreline would have been a lot more embarrassing then it was given the players available.

I'd like to see Kevin Walsh be a little less pragmatic in his approach, only time will whether he can be.

Kevin is an accountant so it's no wonder he's so fond of mentioning the bloody end of year accounts so often. Most accountants I know would be fairly risk averse so I wouldn't expect him to change. He replaced Tally with Kevin Stritch who is probably best known for his work with Castleknock in Dublin and they were a very defensive outfit. I think Walsh is who he is at this point. A conservative coach.

That said due to circumstances it's probably unfair to judge him on the league this year. He's pretty much come out and said they are well behind last year's work and are only looking to stay up by any means necessary. Still if they go down there will be serious pressure on them to perform in the Summer. You have John Divilly up at UCD and PJ with the U-20's so there are some of his former teammates knocking around that might become more attractive propositions if he has a bad year.
I thought he is an ex-Garda that sells insurance?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: spuds on February 06, 2019, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: sans pessimism on February 06, 2019, 11:06:28 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 05, 2019, 03:32:18 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 02:40:23 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 05, 2019, 12:08:06 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 04, 2019, 03:05:23 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought in which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.

Wouldn't be as harsh on Kevin Walsh as some others, will reserve judgment until the championship but can see why others are getting a bit frustrated. I think Galway have the players to play in a more attacking way once everyone is fit although if Galway had opened up against them on Saturday the scoreline would have been a lot more embarrassing then it was given the players available.

I'd like to see Kevin Walsh be a little less pragmatic in his approach, only time will whether he can be.

Kevin is an accountant so it's no wonder he's so fond of mentioning the bloody end of year accounts so often. Most accountants I know would be fairly risk averse so I wouldn't expect him to change. He replaced Tally with Kevin Stritch who is probably best known for his work with Castleknock in Dublin and they were a very defensive outfit. I think Walsh is who he is at this point. A conservative coach.

That said due to circumstances it's probably unfair to judge him on the league this year. He's pretty much come out and said they are well behind last year's work and are only looking to stay up by any means necessary. Still if they go down there will be serious pressure on them to perform in the Summer. You have John Divilly up at UCD and PJ with the U-20's so there are some of his former teammates knocking around that might become more attractive propositions if he has a bad year.
I thought he is an ex-Garda that sells insurance?
Ex builder also?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 06, 2019, 12:36:12 PM
Quote from: spuds on February 06, 2019, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: sans pessimism on February 06, 2019, 11:06:28 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 05, 2019, 03:32:18 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 02:40:23 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 05, 2019, 12:08:06 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 04, 2019, 03:05:23 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought in which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.

Wouldn't be as harsh on Kevin Walsh as some others, will reserve judgment until the championship but can see why others are getting a bit frustrated. I think Galway have the players to play in a more attacking way once everyone is fit although if Galway had opened up against them on Saturday the scoreline would have been a lot more embarrassing then it was given the players available.

I'd like to see Kevin Walsh be a little less pragmatic in his approach, only time will whether he can be.

Kevin is an accountant so it's no wonder he's so fond of mentioning the bloody end of year accounts so often. Most accountants I know would be fairly risk averse so I wouldn't expect him to change. He replaced Tally with Kevin Stritch who is probably best known for his work with Castleknock in Dublin and they were a very defensive outfit. I think Walsh is who he is at this point. A conservative coach.

That said due to circumstances it's probably unfair to judge him on the league this year. He's pretty much come out and said they are well behind last year's work and are only looking to stay up by any means necessary. Still if they go down there will be serious pressure on them to perform in the Summer. You have John Divilly up at UCD and PJ with the U-20's so there are some of his former teammates knocking around that might become more attractive propositions if he has a bad year.
I thought he is an ex-Garda that sells insurance?
Ex builder also?

He was both a Garda then a builder/developer but is now a QFA not an accountant, QFA qualification is for anyone involved in selling/advising on retail financial products so fair play to him to still be pursuing career opportunities outside of the GAA.
Anyway in my opinion it has sweet f**k all to do with whether he is a good/bad/conservative/expansive manager.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 07, 2019, 01:48:33 PM
Could any Monaghan poster give a steer on the car parking situation in Inniskeen on Sunday?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Boycey on February 07, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 07, 2019, 01:48:33 PM
Could any Monaghan poster give a steer on the car parking situation in Inniskeen on Sunday?

Huge car park at ground will probably cater for the expected crowd I'd say. Also side of road parking and you won't have to walk far. If youre in the back of carpark it could take 15/20 mins to get away but nothing major.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 07, 2019, 09:43:20 PM
Mayo team for Saturday night.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
9. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy(C)
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
15. Colm Moran - Westport
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Randy on February 07, 2019, 10:16:52 PM
Interesting line up. I thought Colm moran was excellent a blow in carrick in the FBD but he's a few years of S&C ahead of him before he will be ready for serious football. Good prospect though. Conor loftus must be dropped altogether is he?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 07, 2019, 10:47:42 PM
2 or 3 last chance saloon players there. Hopefully they realise it before the saloon takes off. Maybe Coen is better off in the corner back position. Maybe Caff will come good, maybe Regan will shoot the lights out and it won't be a once off. Happy with the rest though. I'm happy with the captaincy decision for the night also.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 07, 2019, 11:42:49 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 07, 2019, 10:47:42 PM
2 or 3 last chance saloon players there. Hopefully they realise it before the saloon takes off. Maybe Coen is better off in the corner back position. Maybe Caff will come good, maybe Regan will shoot the lights out and it won't be a once off. Happy with the rest though. I'm happy with the captaincy decision for the night also.

If only there was a credible option to Clarkie and then all of you out in bandit country would be happy even though you couldn't do what the mighty men from the Stephenites did in 2005?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 07, 2019, 11:53:57 PM
I'm getting worried about Sunday as the Tymoanies are all gone very quiet ???
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 08, 2019, 07:16:28 AM
Quote from: Crete Boom on February 07, 2019, 11:42:49 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 07, 2019, 10:47:42 PM
2 or 3 last chance saloon players there. Hopefully they realise it before the saloon takes off. Maybe Coen is better off in the corner back position. Maybe Caff will come good, maybe Regan will shoot the lights out and it won't be a once off. Happy with the rest though. I'm happy with the captaincy decision for the night also.

If only there was a credible option to Clarkie and then all of you out in bandit country would be happy even though you couldn't do what the mighty men from the Stephenites did in 2005?  ;D ;D

;D yere an awful sensitive bunch altogether across the little streameen. I gave up defending Caff until he came back from injury, although in fairness you gotta give him massive credit for sticking with it. As I said, I hope they all have blinders.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: tonto1888 on February 08, 2019, 08:02:38 AM
Connolly back for Dublin. Sherlock gone. Are these reports true?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 08, 2019, 08:32:35 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on February 08, 2019, 08:02:38 AM
Connolly back for Dublin. Sherlock gone. Are these reports true?
Sherlock gone does seem to be true.

Mossy Quinn publicising a picture of himself with Connolly attending Croker last weekend was an interesting one. Does seem like it's a toe in the water of Connolly coming back. He's not back training with the group yet, but I'd say the chances have gone from bleak to 50/50.

Although I believe himself and Gavin just don't get on, so still have to put that hurdle behind them and Connolly may have to accept role as super sub (or unused sub at times). So I wouldnt put the house on it just yet.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: tonto1888 on February 08, 2019, 09:39:43 AM
Quote from: Hound on February 08, 2019, 08:32:35 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on February 08, 2019, 08:02:38 AM
Connolly back for Dublin. Sherlock gone. Are these reports true?
Sherlock gone does seem to be true.

Mossy Quinn publicising a picture of himself with Connolly attending Croker last weekend was an interesting one. Does seem like it's a toe in the water of Connolly coming back. He's not back training with the group yet, but I'd say the chances have gone from bleak to 50/50.

Although I believe himself and Gavin just don't get on, so still have to put that hurdle behind them and Connolly may have to accept role as super sub (or unused sub at times). So I wouldnt put the house on it just yet.

From the outside looking in Sherlock going seems like a shock. Would that be the case
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 08, 2019, 09:58:33 AM
Cillian McDaid and Declan Kyne are out for the remainder for national league according to @TribesmenGAA twitter.
This injury situation is only going from bad to worse for Galway and the likes of Peter Cooke are getting flogged with the number of matches every week - some fringe players really need to make a big step up in the remaining league rounds.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2019, 10:21:11 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 08, 2019, 09:58:33 AM
Cillian McDaid and Declan Kyne are out for the remainder for national league according to @TribesmenGAA twitter.
This injury situation is only going from bad to worse for Galway and the likes of Peter Cooke are getting flogged with the number of matches every week - some fringe players really need to make a big step up in the remaining league rounds.

Just saw that. Down to the bare bones at this stage.

Pity about McDaid. He probably needs to play as much football as he can having been away for a year. 0-2 in the first half against Dublin before his injury showed what he's capable of. Just needs more game time. He won't get that now but at least he'll be fit in time for the championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 08, 2019, 10:45:54 AM
 Any one leaving a 4 in a row set up is a shock unless it's something from private life.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 08, 2019, 12:39:21 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2019, 10:21:11 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 08, 2019, 09:58:33 AM
Cillian McDaid and Declan Kyne are out for the remainder for national league according to @TribesmenGAA twitter.
This injury situation is only going from bad to worse for Galway and the likes of Peter Cooke are getting flogged with the number of matches every week - some fringe players really need to make a big step up in the remaining league rounds.

Just saw that. Down to the bare bones at this stage.
Yeah, options getting thin on the ground at this stage.  McDaid is a big loss in so far as he needs loads of football after his year in Australia.  He started well against the Dubs last weekend but obviously picked up a bad knock before HT.  Looks like the Sigerson lads will be in action so again this weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2019, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on February 08, 2019, 12:39:21 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2019, 10:21:11 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 08, 2019, 09:58:33 AM
Cillian McDaid and Declan Kyne are out for the remainder for national league according to @TribesmenGAA twitter.
This injury situation is only going from bad to worse for Galway and the likes of Peter Cooke are getting flogged with the number of matches every week - some fringe players really need to make a big step up in the remaining league rounds.

Just saw that. Down to the bare bones at this stage.
Yeah, options getting thin on the ground at this stage.  McDaid is a big loss in so far as he needs loads of football after his year in Australia.  He started well against the Dubs last weekend but obviously picked up a bad knock before HT.  Looks like the Sigerson lads will be in action so again this weekend.

Sean Andy out for a few weeks now as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on February 08, 2019, 04:04:10 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 07, 2019, 11:53:57 PM
I'm getting worried about Sunday as the Tymoanies are all gone very quiet ???

7/4 for Roscommon at home seems like a decent price in the context of the results last weekend
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 08, 2019, 09:30:14 PM
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Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 08, 2019, 09:47:48 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2019, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on February 08, 2019, 12:39:21 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2019, 10:21:11 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 08, 2019, 09:58:33 AM
Cillian McDaid and Declan Kyne are out for the remainder for national league according to @TribesmenGAA twitter.
This injury situation is only going from bad to worse for Galway and the likes of Peter Cooke are getting flogged with the number of matches every week - some fringe players really need to make a big step up in the remaining league rounds.

Just saw that. Down to the bare bones at this stage.
Yeah, options getting thin on the ground at this stage.  McDaid is a big loss in so far as he needs loads of football after his year in Australia.  He started well against the Dubs last weekend but obviously picked up a bad knock before HT.  Looks like the Sigerson lads will be in action so again this weekend.

Sean Andy out for a few weeks now as well.

We'll be lucky to field a team on Sunday at all on Sunday with all these injuries, it's crazy. To look on the bright side, Johnny Duane might be named in the defence this weekend instead of centre forward 🙄
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2019, 10:00:37 PM
Galway starting XV to face Monaghan
(2019 NFL Div.1, Rd.3)

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Johnny Duane (St. James')
4. David Wynne (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciarán Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)
11. Peter Cooke (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
12. Sean Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
13. Padraig Cunningham (Headford)
14. Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
15. Antoine Ó Laoi (C.L.G. An Spidéal)

Some of the NUIG lads starting. Probably has no other choice really but Cooke was goosed by half time last weekend. Another midfielder up full forward.

I'd love to see who's left to sit on the bench.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 08, 2019, 10:10:23 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2019, 10:00:37 PM
Galway starting XV to face Monaghan
(2019 NFL Div.1, Rd.3)

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Johnny Duane (St. James')
4. David Wynne (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciarán Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)
11. Peter Cooke (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
12. Sean Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
13. Padraig Cunningham (Headford)
14. Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
15. Antoine Ó Laoi (C.L.G. An Spidéal)

Some of the NUIG lads starting. Probably has no other choice really but Cooke was goosed by half time last weekend. Another midfielder up full forward.

I'd love to see who's on the bench.

For all those missing that is still team with i think 12 players that has started championship games.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 08, 2019, 10:14:54 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2019, 10:00:37 PM
Galway starting XV to face Monaghan
(2019 NFL Div.1, Rd.3)

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Johnny Duane (St. James')
4. David Wynne (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciarán Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)
11. Peter Cooke (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
12. Sean Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
13. Padraig Cunningham (Headford)
14. Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
15. Antoine Ó Laoi (C.L.G. An Spidéal)

Some of the NUIG lads starting. Probably has no other choice really but Cooke was goosed by half time last weekend. Another midfielder up full forward.

I'd love to see who's left to sit on the bench.

Cooke has some mileage put in the last few weeks, the schedule is crazy. Corofin's club run is really affecting us this year, more than I can ever remember. Good luck to the lads playing, not feeling too optimistic but hopefully they'll do themselves justice. Good to see Lavelle back in goal, Our full forward line is vey green, not a championship game between them. I'm guessing we're either going to go for a few marks with Darcy in there or else he'll be in the backs trying to prevent Monaghan catching too many.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2019, 10:32:02 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on February 08, 2019, 10:14:54 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2019, 10:00:37 PM
Galway starting XV to face Monaghan
(2019 NFL Div.1, Rd.3)

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Johnny Duane (St. James')
4. David Wynne (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciarán Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)
11. Peter Cooke (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
12. Sean Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
13. Padraig Cunningham (Headford)
14. Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
15. Antoine Ó Laoi (C.L.G. An Spidéal)

Some of the NUIG lads starting. Probably has no other choice really but Cooke was goosed by half time last weekend. Another midfielder up full forward.

I'd love to see who's left to sit on the bench.

Cooke has some mileage put in the last few weeks, the schedule is crazy. Corofin's club run is really affecting us this year, more than I can ever remember. Good luck to the lads playing, not feeling too optimistic but hopefully they'll do themselves justice. Good to see Lavelle back in goal, Our full forward line is vey green, not a championship game between them. I'm guessing we're either going to go for a few marks with Darcy in there or else he'll be in the backs trying to prevent Monaghan catching too many.

Would this team of "unavailables" beat the availables? Think they would beat them handily to be honest.

Power
Kyne
Sean Andy
Silke
Molloy
J Daly
Wall
Conroy
O'Curraoin
Brannigan
M Daly
McDaid
Varley
Comer
Burke
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 08, 2019, 10:36:14 PM
Imagine Sunday's half back line on that half forward line, they'd win it on their own!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 08, 2019, 10:37:53 PM
Any reason why Danny Cummins has fell so out of favour? Was a regular starter for Walsh when he first arrived and now he can't get a start when the likes of M Daly,D Comer,I Burke are out.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 08, 2019, 10:42:01 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 08, 2019, 10:37:53 PM
Any reason why Danny Cummins has fell so out of favour? Was a regular starter for Walsh when he first arrived and now he can't get a start when the likes of M Daly,D Comer,I Burke are out.

His finishing let him down an awful lot, constantly got into good positions but would more often than not fluff his final shot. That said he was injured most of last year and will probably be on the bench Sunday. He came on against the Dubs last Saturday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 09, 2019, 01:47:46 PM
Monaghan squad for tomorrow:

Rory Beggan
Kieran Duffy
Drew Wylie
Ryan Wylie
Dessie Ward
Barry Kerr
Colin Walshe
Darren Hughes
Neil McAdam
Ryan McAnespie
Dermot Malone
Fintan Kelly
Shane Carey
Jack McCarron
Micheal Bannigan.

Subs:
Shane Garland
Vincent Corey
Dessie Mone
James Mealiff
Owen Duffy
Thomas Kerr
Gavin Doogan
Conor McCarthy
Conor McManus
David Garland
Barry McGinn

Anyone know if Boyle or O'Connell picked up knocks last week? Strange they're not there otherwise.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 09, 2019, 02:46:36 PM
Quote from: Schkite on February 09, 2019, 01:47:46 PM
Monaghan squad for tomorrow:

Rory Beggan
Kieran Duffy
Drew Wylie
Ryan Wylie
Dessie Ward
Barry Kerr
Colin Walshe
Darren Hughes
Neil McAdam
Ryan McAnespie
Dermot Malone
Fintan Kelly
Shane Carey
Jack McCarron
Micheal Bannigan.

Subs:
Shane Garland
Vincent Corey
Dessie Mone
James Mealiff
Owen Duffy
Thomas Kerr
Gavin Doogan
Conor McCarthy
Conor McManus
David Garland
Barry McGinn

Anyone know if Boyle or O'Connell picked up knocks last week? Strange they're not there otherwise.

Looking at the match report from last weekend. Boyle was subbed off after 14 mins and O'Connell on 54 mins which would suggest both picked up injuries. Why is Conor McManus a sub for the 3rd game in a row?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 09, 2019, 03:16:10 PM
Irish Times previews

Roscommon v Tyrone Dr Hyde Park [Deferred, TG4] – On available form the home side will fancy themselves here. Last week's win over Monaghan was a tenacious day's work and a creditable follow-up to their competitive opener in Castlebar. Former Kerry player Conor Cox played a big role in the win, including scoring the winner. Tyrone find themselves rooted to the bottom of the table, surprisingly after another good pre-season in the McKenna Cup. Mickey Harte has a solid enough team named – whatever about who takes the field – for what will be a demanding assignment in front of a buzzed-up home support and the instinct is that they will rediscover enough form to take the points here.Verdict: Tyrone

Monaghan v Galway, Inniskeen [Live, TG4] – Two teams with a 50-50 record to date and a fair bit of recent history. The evening Galway's progressive 2018 went off the rails was when Monaghan arrived in Salthill for the last of the All-Ireland quarter-final round robins. The home side's performance was astonishingly poor and it was downhill from there. Against Dublin they flattered to deceive and have now been further reduced by injuries to Cillian McDaid, who was impressive early on last week but now needs surgery on his foot, former All Star nominee Declan Kyne (ankle injury), and full back Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (shoulder). At home Monaghan will want to get back on the track that led them to beat Dublin on opening day. Verdict: Monaghan


I thought Galway did not want to get hammered by the Dubs in the
AIF at this stage of their development and left the pleasure to the winners of
Monaghan v Tyrone in the other semi.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 09, 2019, 03:35:45 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 09, 2019, 02:46:36 PM
Quote from: Schkite on February 09, 2019, 01:47:46 PM
Monaghan squad for tomorrow:

Rory Beggan
Kieran Duffy
Drew Wylie
Ryan Wylie
Dessie Ward
Barry Kerr
Colin Walshe
Darren Hughes
Neil McAdam
Ryan McAnespie
Dermot Malone
Fintan Kelly
Shane Carey
Jack McCarron
Micheal Bannigan.

Subs:
Shane Garland
Vincent Corey
Dessie Mone
James Mealiff
Owen Duffy
Thomas Kerr
Gavin Doogan
Conor McCarthy
Conor McManus
David Garland
Barry McGinn

Anyone know if Boyle or O'Connell picked up knocks last week? Strange they're not there otherwise.

Looking at the match report from last weekend. Boyle was subbed off after 14 mins and O'Connell on 54 mins which would suggest both picked up injuries. Why is Conor McManus a sub for the 3rd game in a row?

I remember them coming off alright but haven't heard anything since regarding how long they'd be out. Hopefully nothing long term.

On McManus, I've no issues with him playing alot less in the league, starting a few and being used as an impact sub in others. He's an awful lot of football played over the years and we'll have to manage him well if we want him to to keep on going at his usual standard for a few championships yet, he won't do that if he's playing every minute of the league. It also gives more of a chance to the younger forwards to make a claim for a place.

Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up starting this one, Malachy is usually good for a late change or two to the named team. If McManus doesn't start, I'd prefer to see one of McCarthy/McGinn/Garland start and pull McCarron back to the 40. The named forward line is a bit too workmanlike and not enough scorers for my liking.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 04:11:18 PM
Kerry will beat the jackeens. Will want to lay down marker for later in year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: clarshack on February 09, 2019, 07:39:17 PM
Maurice Deegan doesn't seem to know that players are only supposed to take 4 steps
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Harold Disgracey on February 09, 2019, 07:40:29 PM
A very enjoyable game so far between Kerry and Dublin.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: sid waddell on February 09, 2019, 07:45:22 PM
It's high time Gaelic football became a winter sport.

A Saturday night, a full house in a tight stadium, live free to air English language television coverage, and some beers watching a savage game of football.

This is the Premier League of Gaelic football. This is the future.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 07:47:22 PM
Kerry will win this easy. Have the window in second half. Stuck 50 on them to win at 4/1 as well as my accumulator. #easymoney
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 09, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 09, 2019, 08:01:38 PM
Not exactly breaking news but Cluxton is an absolutely huge loss when he's not in the team
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 09, 2019, 08:25:40 PM
Think it's the quietest game I've ever seen Fenton have.

And as I type he kicks a point in the 66th minute.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 09, 2019, 08:26:16 PM
Amount of steps lads are allowed take is ridiculous
Also, most players fouling the ball when they go to pick it up
Foot must play the ball first but most lads stick their hands onto the ball at same time as the foot arrives
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 09, 2019, 08:34:15 PM
Some comeback by the 14 man Dublin, the Kerry winner was like the Meath winner in 1991.  Great game credit to both sides.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: clarshack on February 09, 2019, 08:38:04 PM
it was a good entertaining game of football.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 09, 2019, 08:38:38 PM
Just goes to show that Dublin can beat anybody outside of Croke Park. Croke Park gives them no advantage.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Sportacus on February 09, 2019, 08:40:20 PM
Great game.  I've said it before, the problem with football generally is the bullshit negative coaching.  Not tonight though, two teams attacking until they were ready to drop. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Watcher on February 09, 2019, 08:40:53 PM
Tyrone started that row there.  Shame in on them
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 08:42:23 PM
The drinks are on. The Ging bar in Carrick tonight for a drink if anyone about. :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 08:42:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 09, 2019, 08:38:38 PM
Just goes to show that Dublin can beat anybody outside of Croke Park. Croke Park gives them no advantage.
+1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Armagh18 on February 09, 2019, 08:43:47 PM
Great game, two super teams going at it. Clear from watching that game that new kickout rule needs to stay offensive mark needs to go.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 09, 2019, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 08:42:23 PM
The drinks are on. The Ging bar in Carrick tonight for a drink if anyone about. :) :) :) :) :)
Good man - helping the Riscommon economy.
Exciting stuff from Tralee, nearly as good as the Hyde last Sunday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 09, 2019, 08:49:44 PM
Solid, unspectacular, almost boring win from Mayo
Thought Ruane had a good game, Colm Moran looked a bit over awed, great point from Reape.
Some phenomenal tackling, it's been a real constant this year from us.
The line up against the dubs will be interesting, could nearly field a full team of the kids

Edit: delighted for Caff, great game, top quality back play
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: twohands!!! on February 09, 2019, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 09, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401

I'd have given it as a free out for a blatant foul on the keeper.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 09, 2019, 09:36:37 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 09, 2019, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 09, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401

I'd have given it as a free out for a blatant foul on the keeper.
Did he not get his fist to ball first before he clattered into the goalie?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Tubberman on February 09, 2019, 09:39:09 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 09, 2019, 09:36:37 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 09, 2019, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 09, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401

I'd have given it as a free out for a blatant foul on the keeper.
Did he not get his fist to ball first before he clattered into the goalie?

Whichever way it should have gone, it wasn't blatant.
poor camera angle makes it hard to know whar actually happened.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 09, 2019, 09:48:26 PM
Good win for Mayo this evening. Once they went ahead, there was going to be 1 winner.

I thought Clarke was poor on kickouts. Full back line were good, especially Caff - heard he got motm, fully deserved in my opinion. Halfback line was consistent, Plunkett didn't do anything wrong. Midfield is a worry, not enough primary possession or breaking ball won in that sector. Half forwards were good too, Doherty could feel aggrieved not to get motm, I thought he did very well. Colm Moran as Mayo4Sam was a bit overawed. The subs were Good, Vaughan scored a great point, McLoughlin was his usual busy self around the middle. As for Regan, I criticised him earlier in the week, he did well. Pity if he's injured again.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 09, 2019, 09:49:25 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 09, 2019, 09:36:37 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 09, 2019, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 09, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401

I'd have given it as a free out for a blatant foul on the keeper.
Did he not get his fist to ball first before he clattered into the goalie?
He did, the ball was there to be won.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Randy on February 09, 2019, 09:57:25 PM
He was excellent Mayoforsam. Won every ball that went in on him I'd say. Thoughts Clarke's kicksouts were poor. What did you think?

Regan done well I thought. Hope his injury isn't to serious, Hand I think. You would swear Macloughlin was never away. Fitted right back in when he came on.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on February 09, 2019, 10:10:35 PM
Probably survive now , very helpful to get three wins in the first three games. I dread to think of the hammering the dubs will dish out to us though.  They could cut through us for a half dozen goals , caff the hero tonight but gawd help him the next day . Oh sufferin jeez I don't think I'll even go to it.

Mayo have been alright but two bad sides in Tyrone and Cavan and Ros had us only for a ridiculous goal which was over carried by twice the steps allowed.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 09, 2019, 10:30:49 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 09, 2019, 08:38:38 PM
Just goes to show that Dublin can beat anybody outside of Croke Park. Croke Park gives them no advantage.
Comment on Dublin and no comment on Mayo. Typical, even the proper Mayo lads calling you out as a complete arsehole
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 10:32:21 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 09, 2019, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 08:42:23 PM
The drinks are on. The Ging bar in Carrick tonight for a drink if anyone about. :) :) :) :) :)
Good man - helping the Riscommon economy.
Exciting stuff from Tralee, nearly as good as the Hyde last Sunday.

Sure we gave ye the Smiths. Good Leitrim Gaels men before they went to the dark side.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 09, 2019, 10:37:55 PM
Kerry impressive today. Feckers didnt know how to kick the ball wide!
Thought we had them when we got back level at the end. A great 5 minutes for us, but it was a really superbly worked point from Kerry to get the winner. Fento a bit hasty with that last gasp chance, but wouldn't be saying that if it had gone over.

Looking like a Mayo v Kerry final, even if we beat Mayo the next day. Hopefully turn it around, would not like to give up the league title. Although if Mayo beat us, we'll be, bizarrely, in a relegation battle! Although I'm sure we'll come  through it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 09, 2019, 10:41:06 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 09, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401

Of course it should not have stood but what can you do when a ref looks at that and thinks it's ok. You can't make contact with keeper in small box and galligan got barged into the net.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 09, 2019, 11:39:21 PM
Quote from: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 10:32:21 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 09, 2019, 08:46:26 PM
Quote from: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 08:42:23 PM
The drinks are on. The Ging bar in Carrick tonight for a drink if anyone about. :) :) :) :) :)
Good man - helping the Riscommon economy.
Exciting stuff from Tralee, nearly as good as the Hyde last Sunday.

Sure we gave ye the Smiths. Good Leitrim Gaels men before they went to the dark side.
They were in their arse.
Parents from Boyle, grandparents Corrigeenroe and Tuam.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 11:45:08 PM
Mike Smith will tell u different . Orinalk6 Leitrim village but not far from football. Should be with Michaels instead of the Townseys. Thankfully young Beirne won't going near ye despite the offer.



Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: RedHand88 on February 09, 2019, 11:50:06 PM
Is it too soon for Dublin to be considered "in a relegation battle"?  ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Armagh18 on February 09, 2019, 11:52:30 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 09, 2019, 08:26:16 PM
Amount of steps lads are allowed take is ridiculous
Also, most players fouling the ball when they go to pick it up
Foot must play the ball first but most lads stick their hands onto the ball at same time as the foot arrives

The steps rule needs update, realistically no one takes only four steps and an extra couple doesn't do any harm as players are moving that quick they've taken the ateps in no time. Should increase the number slightly but then enforce it properly to stop the lads taking the piss.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 09, 2019, 11:56:16 PM
Quote from: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 11:45:08 PM
Mike Smith will tell u different . Orinalk6 Leitrim village but not far from football. Should be with Michaels instead of the Townseys. Thankfully young Beirne won't going near ye despite the offer.
Would you not be concentrating on Div 4 instead of drinking on the Ros side of the river and interfering in Division 1. >:(
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: David McKeown on February 10, 2019, 12:09:48 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 09, 2019, 10:41:06 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 09, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401

Of course it should not have stood but what can you do when a ref looks at that and thinks it's ok. You can't make contact with keeper in small box and galligan got barged into the net.

I didn't see anything wrong with it. The protection for keepers in the rule book is simply that they can't be charged. I know most refs give considerably more protection than that but they are wrong. That goal wasn't a charge but was two players competiting for the ball. Anywhere else on the pitch it's not a foul so it wasn't a foul on the keeper.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 10, 2019, 12:18:36 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 09, 2019, 11:56:16 PM
Quote from: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 11:45:08 PM
Mike Smith will tell u different . Orinalk6 Leitrim village but not far from football. Should be with Michaels instead of the Townseys. Thankfully young Beirne won't going near ye despite the offer.
Would you not be concentrating on Div 4 instead of drinking on the Ros side of the river and interfering in Division 1. >:(

Yerra when the rossies are throwing the insults they must be rattled .Sure we be meeting ye on the way down when the money  is gone paying all the imports. Sure the 3 dalys should be be playing with Mohil until family jumped ship. Their uncle George Dugdale was great footballer with Leitrim. Beat ye in 94. You might remind last time ye Galway and Mayo in same year.???o1 doesn't count with the skullduggery wit Ray Connelly
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: joemamas on February 10, 2019, 12:22:49 AM
Quote from: TheMaster on February 10, 2019, 12:18:36 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 09, 2019, 11:56:16 PM
Quote from: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 11:45:08 PM
Mike Smith will tell u different . Orinalk6 Leitrim village but not far from football. Should be with Michaels instead of the Townseys. Thankfully young Beirne won't going near ye despite the offer.
Would you not be concentrating on Div 4 instead of drinking on the Ros side of the river and interfering in Division 1. >:(

Yerra when the rossies are throwing the insults they must be rattled .Sure we be meeting ye on the way down when the money  is gone paying all the important. Sure the 3 days should be be playing with Mohil until family jumped ship. Their uncle George Dugdale was great footballer with Leitrim. Beat ye in 94. You might remind last time ye Galway and Mayo in same year.???o1 doesn't count with the skullduggery wit Ray Connelly

Just go back to  hoganstand with your infantile commentary.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on February 10, 2019, 12:30:14 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 09, 2019, 08:38:38 PM
Just goes to show that Dublin can beat anybody outside of Croke Park. Croke Park gives them no advantage.

Pathetic troll. I guess the charitable reaction to your bile-filled postings has to be sympathy.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 10, 2019, 12:37:38 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on February 10, 2019, 12:30:14 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 09, 2019, 08:38:38 PM
Just goes to show that Dublin can beat anybody outside of Croke Park. Croke Park gives them no advantage.

Pathetic troll. I guess the charitable reaction to your bile-filled postings has to be sympathy.

Ah, the poor Dub is all upset to get a bite of reality. Did you travel down to Kerry? Or did you realise the Dart, the Luas or Dublin Bus don't go that far!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on February 10, 2019, 12:42:20 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 10, 2019, 12:37:38 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on February 10, 2019, 12:30:14 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 09, 2019, 08:38:38 PM
Just goes to show that Dublin can beat anybody outside of Croke Park. Croke Park gives them no advantage.

Pathetic troll. I guess the charitable reaction to your bile-filled postings has to be sympathy.

Ah, the poor Dub is all upset to get a bite of reality. Did you travel down to Kerry? Or did you realise the Dart, the Luas or Dublin Bus don't go that far!

As I say - pathetic troll.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 10, 2019, 11:58:59 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 09, 2019, 09:49:25 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 09, 2019, 09:36:37 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on February 09, 2019, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 09, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401

I'd have given it as a free out for a blatant foul on the keeper.
Did he not get his fist to ball first before he clattered into the goalie?
He did, the ball was there to be won.

He never touched the ball, i was right in line with it - just collided with the keeper who had is hands on the ball for a split second before being hit. Mayo were the best team and wouldve won anyway but when a ref missed such a blatant foul it is maddening. Always seems to be happening to the underdogs in these games too. Cavans fitness and conditioning is way off for Div1 but I am hoping this year the focus is being put on trying to get optimal fitness for Monaghan in the championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 01:47:21 PM
2 changes for Monaghan - Vinny in for McAdam and McManus in for Bannigan
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 02:33:46 PM
Ros are beating Tyrone at the moment

Monaghan are more accurate with their shooting than Galway
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 02:35:46 PM
An awful lot of players missing yes but I'm not sure I can stick watching much more of a Kevin Walsh, Galway side.

A gale behind them and they don't score until the 20th minute and it's the full back that has to go up to kick it.

That said they've somehow still managed to blow 3 great goal chances.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 02:38:49 PM
Bad aul wind in Inniskeen, Monaghan doing well to go in ahead playing against it. Beggan struggled with his kickouts against it as did the lads shooting for points. Hopefully an improvement with the wind at our backs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 02:40:48 PM
35 mins Roscommon 0-10 Tyrone 0-03

H/T: Monaghan 0-05 Galway 0-04
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on February 10, 2019, 02:41:16 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 02:35:46 PM
An awful lot of players missing yes but I'm not sure I can stick watching much more of a Kevin Walsh, Galway side.

A gale behind them and they don't score until the 20th minute and it's the full back that has to go up to kick it.

That said they've somehow still managed to blow 3 great goal chances.

Monaghan missed a sitter too although the keeper did save it. Galway #4 blazed his chance wide. Tough conditions
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 02:41:59 PM
Jaysus lads what's going on with Tyrone
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 02:45:26 PM
Quote from: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 02:41:59 PM
Jaysus lads what's going on with Tyrone
Getting to the all Ireland final was a curse
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oliverkelly on February 10, 2019, 02:49:46 PM
Tyrone will be playing second half with a very strong wind. Far from over yet
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: omagh_gael on February 10, 2019, 02:51:47 PM
Roscommon seem to be getting all their scores from long range with a big wind at their backs. We're also getting cleaned out in midfield with the breeze.

Hopefully we pick it up in second half or we could be condemned to div 2 already!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 10, 2019, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 02:35:46 PM
An awful lot of players missing yes but I'm not sure I can stick watching much more of a Kevin Walsh, Galway side.

A gale behind them and they don't score until the 20th minute and it's the full back that has to go up to kick it.

That said they've somehow still managed to blow 3 great goal chances.

Could have written this myself. Extremely frustrating to watch. Yet somehow we're level  ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on February 10, 2019, 03:03:53 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on February 10, 2019, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 02:35:46 PM
An awful lot of players missing yes but I'm not sure I can stick watching much more of a Kevin Walsh, Galway side.

A gale behind them and they don't score until the 20th minute and it's the full back that has to go up to kick it.

That said they've somehow still managed to blow 3 great goal chances.

Could have written this myself. Extremely frustrating to watch. Yet somehow we're level  ::)
Monaghan are awful. Actually both sides are  :-\
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2019, 03:11:00 PM
Does that Galway lad know this is on tv? He went down and stayed down like someone shot him! Embarrassing
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 03:11:32 PM
Kelly going off early was a big blow to Monaghan, McAdam has been awful.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:14:39 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 26, 2018, 05:09:44 PM
Us and Cyaavan hot favourites for the drop.
With us having a late managerial appointment , trying out new players and sorting out some team organisation and defensive system we're certainties
Dublin v Galway or Tyrone for the final.

Doesn't look like ye will be yoyoing
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:15:43 PM
Quote from: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 03:11:32 PM
Kelly going off early was a big blow to Monaghan, McAdam has been awful.

Galway look a bit better in the second half
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:17:36 PM
RTÉ :

"ROSCOMMON GOAL

Ultan Harney the scorer after Tyrone keeper Niall Morgan lost possession. A dagger in the Tyrone (heart? )after they started the game well. 1-10 to 0-06 after 44 mins "

Fág an bealach
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 03:19:28 PM
What was the Monaghan defence at there  ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2019, 03:20:01 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:15:43 PM
Quote from: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 03:11:32 PM
Kelly going off early was a big blow to Monaghan, McAdam has been awful.

Galway look a bit better in the second half

Better? It's rotten football the whole way through! Thank feck the hurlers from Monaghan put up a better show
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 03:22:22 PM
We've been absolutely septic in the second half. At least in the first half we had the excuse of a bad wind but we've been even worse in the second half. Sloppy in defence, ponderous around the middle third and a strange reluctance to let the ball in to the forwards.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: SouthDublinBro on February 10, 2019, 03:24:45 PM
Monaghan no.11 got away with murder there. He knew what he was doing.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on February 10, 2019, 03:26:51 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on February 10, 2019, 03:24:45 PM
Monaghan no.11 got away with murder there. He knew what he was doing.

galway #6 looking for an oscar?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on February 10, 2019, 03:28:46 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on February 10, 2019, 03:24:45 PM
Monaghan no.11 got away with murder there. He knew what he was doing.
You're some clown. It was a short lineball to him. Is he not allowed to go for the ball ?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 03:32:20 PM
Quote from: straightred on February 10, 2019, 03:28:46 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on February 10, 2019, 03:24:45 PM
Monaghan no.11 got away with murder there. He knew what he was doing.
You're some clown. It was a short lineball to him. Is he not allowed to go for the ball ?

Ignore him, he only pops up every so often to give out about Monaghan.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:33:24 PM
Ros winning by a point 29 mins into 2nd half
Character building
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 03:36:21 PM
f**king hell, we should have gotten something out of that, only ourselves to blame
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 03:37:45 PM
Tom Flynn was mighty towards the end there. Won two kick outs and a hop ball which Kerin almost immediately gave away to give McManus one last chance to equalise.

Fair play to them. They toughed it out. Not much of a spectacle. We weren't great. Monaghan might have been slightly worse.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:39:39 PM
"FT Monaghan 0-11 Galway 1-09

Good win for the Connacht side missing 18 squad players at the moment."

70+2 Roscommon 1-10 Tyrone 1-10

I
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:40:23 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 03:37:45 PM
Tom Flynn was mighty towards the end there. Won two kick outs and a hop ball which Kerin almost immediately gave away to give McManus one last chance to equalise.

Fair play to them. They toughed it out. Not much of a spectacle. We weren't great. Monaghan might have been slightly worse.
That is a very good win
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: omagh_gael on February 10, 2019, 03:48:52 PM
Niall Morgan with a monster point from play to draw us level. He had an opportunity to go for the winner but laid it off and it was missed. Ros given handy free to win it but ball then thrown up due to a push on Morgan after free was given.

Potentially big point for Tyrone there. Going to be a big scrap between Ros, Mon and Tyr to avoid the drop. Cavan look like goners already.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:55:30 PM
Very good Rossie show there


Cunningham got a good start
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2019, 03:56:31 PM
Can't believe Roscommon didn't beat a Tyrone side in complete disarray.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: omagh_gael on February 10, 2019, 04:01:20 PM
No joke, Morgan should be playing out the field. He shows more attacking intent than anyone on our team.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Godsown on February 10, 2019, 04:19:42 PM
Can't wait to see this guy Conor Cox in the flesh. Not only is he really a Kerry man but according to Frankie Dolan on the wireless this afternoon he has 2 great left feet as well!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 10, 2019, 04:26:09 PM
Great to get the win, fair play to them, not much was expected from them today. Shocking to watch though, I've often criticised Shane Walsh for not looking interested or not getting stuck in but it must be so frustrating for a player of his talent and flair to have to play in a system like that. The constant short passing and passing backwards is painful. Bradshaw bursts himself so often to get forward, gets a pass and then turns and kicks it backwards, dreadful stuff. Our backs can't defend, constantly fouling. That said Johnny Duane and John Daly did play quite well. Great to see Michael Daly back also. The week off might see some of our injuries clear up hopefully.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 05:04:36 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 10, 2019, 03:48:52 PM
Niall Morgan with a monster point from play to draw us level. He had an opportunity to go for the winner but laid it off and it was missed. Ros given handy free to win it but ball then thrown up due to a push on Morgan after free was given.

Potentially big point for Tyrone there. Going to be a big scrap between Ros, Mon and Tyr to avoid the drop. Cavan look like goners already.

Ros might only need 2 more points to stay up. If they match Tyrone over the next 4 they are ok

Tyrone need to beat 2 from
Monaghan, Cavan, Dublin, Galway

Ros have
Cavan , Dublin, Galway, Kerry

For relegation Tyrone are 13/8
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: omagh_gael on February 10, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Just saw Morgan's equalising point. What an effort. Get him into the HB line!

Shite performance over though, early days yet so hopefully it's a case of not putting a massive effort into the league.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 10, 2019, 05:21:43 PM
Quote from: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 03:36:21 PM
f**king hell, we should have gotten something out of that, only ourselves to blame
If we had gotten something out of that game, it would have been an act of thievery.

Tragic mix up to allow the move for their goal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on February 10, 2019, 05:25:48 PM
Roscommon must be sick with the last free getting overturned. Could prove costly in the end.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 05:31:44 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 10, 2019, 05:21:43 PM
Quote from: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 03:36:21 PM
f**king hell, we should have gotten something out of that, only ourselves to blame
If we had gotten something out of that game, it would have been an act of thievery.

Tragic mix up to allow the move for their goal.

Yep we didn't deserve to get anything out of it based on performance, but we still had the opportunity, as bad as we were.

The goal was absolutely criminal, have no idea what the defence was thinking. We were brutal the whole game, but if we hadn't fell asleep that one time we would have given ourselves a better chance. From beating the Dubs on day one, we're sucked into the relegation battle now, Omagh in 2 weeks is massive.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 10, 2019, 05:36:01 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:33:24 PM
Ros winning by a point 29 mins into 2nd half
Character building
You are obsessed with Roscommon for some reason
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 10, 2019, 06:56:26 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on February 10, 2019, 05:25:48 PM
Roscommon must be sick with the last free getting overturned. Could prove costly in the end.

Only themselves to blame -- criminal indiscipline from Parsons.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 07:10:59 PM
Table heading into the 2 week break


Mayo    3    3    0    0    15    6

Kerry    3    3    0    0    8    6

Galway    3    2    0    1    -8    4

Roscommon   3    1    1    1    1    3

Dublin    3    1    0    2    7    2

Monaghan    3    1    0    2    0    2

Tyrone    3    0    1    2    -13    1

Cavan    3    0    0    3    -10    0


Some big games in the next round of fixtures

Dublin v Mayo

Tyrone v Monaghan

Galway v Kerry

Cavan v Roscommon
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: lenny on February 10, 2019, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 10, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Just saw Morgan's equalising point. What an effort. Get him into the HB line!

Shite performance over though, early days yet so hopefully it's a case of not putting a massive effort into the league.

He should be ashamed of himself for his antics at the end. Deliberately sticks his knee on the back of the Roscommon forwards head and then when he's pushed in the chest he goes down holding his face as if he's been hit. Shameful behaviour but I'm sure some of the Tyrone fans on here will stick up for him and won't see any issues with it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 10, 2019, 07:29:21 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 07:10:59 PM
Table heading into the 2 week break


Mayo    3    3    0    0    15    6

Kerry    3    3    0    0    8    6

Galway    3    2    0    1    -8    4

Roscommon   3    1    1    1    1    3

Dublin    3    1    0    2    7    2

Monaghan    3    1    0    2    0    2

Tyrone    3    0    1    2    -13    1

Cavan    3    0    0    3    -10    0


Some big games in the next round of fixtures

Dublin v Mayo

Tyrone v Monaghan

Galway v Kerry

Cavan v Roscommon

If Cavan could beat Roscommon and Tyrone beat Monaghan it would really make the bottom interesting!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: twohands!!! on February 10, 2019, 07:42:02 PM
Quote from: Godsown on February 10, 2019, 04:19:42 PM
Can't wait to see this guy Conor Cox in the flesh. Not only is he really a Kerry man but according to Frankie Dolan on the wireless this afternoon he has 2 great left feet as well!

Does this make him a good dancer or a bad dancer?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 10, 2019, 07:50:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 10, 2019, 03:56:31 PM
Can't believe Roscommon didn't beat a Tyrone side in complete disarray.
But for Morgan's sly knee and silly reaction by Harney Tyrone would have lost. Roscommon i might add were the ones in disarray. Well beaten in all super 8 matches,manager walked and have lost a number of starters due to travel,retirement and injury.

Result of the day was that away win for Galway, Kevin Walsh has played a blinder to the media about the injury crisis when about 9 of today's team will likely start come championship time and regardless what players Galway are missing they stick to their system which has produced just two league defeats in two years and both of those defeats was against Dublin.


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 10, 2019, 07:51:30 PM
Quote from: lenny on February 10, 2019, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 10, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Just saw Morgan's equalising point. What an effort. Get him into the HB line!

Shite performance over though, early days yet so hopefully it's a case of not putting a massive effort into the league.

He should be ashamed of himself for his antics at the end. Deliberately sticks his knee on the back of the Roscommon forwards head and then when he's pushed in the chest he goes down holding his face as if he's been hit. Shameful behaviour but I'm sure some of the Tyrone fans on here will stick up for him and won't see any issues with it.

lenny now thinks we're certs to stay up, sláinte ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 10, 2019, 07:57:34 PM
Quote from: lenny on February 10, 2019, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 10, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Just saw Morgan's equalising point. What an effort. Get him into the HB line!

Shite performance over though, early days yet so hopefully it's a case of not putting a massive effort into the league.

He should be ashamed of himself for his antics at the end. Deliberately sticks his knee on the back of the Roscommon forwards head and then when he's pushed in the chest he goes down holding his face as if he's been hit. Shameful behaviour but I'm sure some of the Tyrone fans on here will stick up for him and won't see any issues with it.
That's preposterous,  a utopian request. Feeling shame is not an option. Reaping great reward from face clutching antics is the stuff that merdals of honour are awarded for in Tyrone.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: tonto1888 on February 10, 2019, 08:00:23 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 10, 2019, 07:57:34 PM
Quote from: lenny on February 10, 2019, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 10, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Just saw Morgan's equalising point. What an effort. Get him into the HB line!

Shite performance over though, early days yet so hopefully it's a case of not putting a massive effort into the league.

He should be ashamed of himself for his antics at the end. Deliberately sticks his knee on the back of the Roscommon forwards head and then when he's pushed in the chest he goes down holding his face as if he's been hit. Shameful behaviour but I'm sure some of the Tyrone fans on here will stick up for him and won't see any issues with it.
That's preposterous,  a utopian request. Feeling shame is not an option. Reaping great reward from face clutching antics is the stuff that merdals of honour are awarded for in Tyrone.

Not just Tyrone. Clare number 2 was at it last week. Probably see it in a lot of games
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 10, 2019, 08:11:02 PM
Bradshaw did it for galway near end if match today, his was so pathetic it was a full 10 seconds after the "contact"
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 08:22:25 PM
Dubs playing it very cute in the 5 in a row attempt. Lose a few league matches optionally so no need to bother with a league final. Leave a few crumbs for striving Kerry or rebuilding Mayo, god love them. Put the media off the trail in April/May

An easy run through Leinster without breaking sweat and 3 super 8 matches to fine tune the machine
And then see if anyone has closed the gap.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2019, 08:25:33 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 08:22:25 PM
Dubs playing it very cute in the 5 in a row attempt. Lose a few league matches optionally so no need to bother with a league final. Leave a few crumbs for striving Kerry or rebuilding Mayo, god love them. Put the media off the trail in April/May

An easy run through Leinster without breaking sweat and 3 super 8 matches to fine tune the machine
And then see if anyone has closed the gap.

+1 plus finding new talent along the way
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mayo.mick on February 10, 2019, 08:35:38 PM
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Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 08:38:02 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 10, 2019, 07:50:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 10, 2019, 03:56:31 PM
Can't believe Roscommon didn't beat a Tyrone side in complete disarray.
But for Morgan's sly knee and silly reaction by Harney Tyrone would have lost. Roscommon i might add were the ones in disarray. Well beaten in all super 8 matches,manager walked and have lost a number of starters due to travel,retirement and injury.

Result of the day was that away win for Galway, Kevin Walsh has played a blinder to the media about the injury crisis when about 9 of today's team will likely start come championship time and regardless what players Galway are missing they stick to their system which has produced just two league defeats in two years and both of those defeats was against Dublin.

I think it'll be more like 6 or 7 will be starting but it's hard to tell this far out with form and injury playing a large part. Lavelle, Kerin, Bradshaw (might hang in there for another year), Heaney, Flynn, Walsh. Maybe Kelly. Maybe Cooke. But they could as easily be on the bench.

I don't think Duggan will be starting. Or O'Donnell. If everyone was available. On the plus side the Daly's made a surprise come back today having not even played for NUIG for a month.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 10, 2019, 08:47:09 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 08:38:02 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 10, 2019, 07:50:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 10, 2019, 03:56:31 PM
Can't believe Roscommon didn't beat a Tyrone side in complete disarray.
But for Morgan's sly knee and silly reaction by Harney Tyrone would have lost. Roscommon i might add were the ones in disarray. Well beaten in all super 8 matches,manager walked and have lost a number of starters due to travel,retirement and injury.

Result of the day was that away win for Galway, Kevin Walsh has played a blinder to the media about the injury crisis when about 9 of today's team will likely start come championship time and regardless what players Galway are missing they stick to their system which has produced just two league defeats in two years and both of those defeats was against Dublin.

I think it'll be more like 6 or 7 will be starting but it's hard to tell this far out with form and injury playing a large part. Lavelle, Kerin, Bradshaw (might hang in there for another year), Heaney, Flynn, Walsh. Maybe Kelly. Maybe Cooke. But they could as easily be on the bench.

I don't think Duggan will be starting. Or O'Donnell. If everyone was available. On the plus side the Daly's made a surprise come back today having not even played for NUIG for a month.

Walsh is full of surprises, keeps all guessing including his own supporters.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 10, 2019, 09:40:41 PM
Well that was a bolx at the end today as the blind Ulster officials combined to ensure dirt by Morgan went unpunished while a naive reaction by our man resulted in the free being overturned.
Anyway such is GAAlife.
A heroic battling backs to the wall performance by our lads in the 2nd half and did well to prevent Tyrone going on to win it.
Great block by young Lyons to save the day.
Some excellent points by us in our purple patch before half time.

At least we didn't concede 4-24,.
If someone told me before Christmas that we'd be disappointed to draw with Tyrone, would beat Monaghan and coulda mighta have drawn with Mayowestros , would concede 2-31 in 3 games and would have an organised defensive structure.....I'd have said give me some of your tablets.

Shows what happens when you have a Manager.
2 months of Cunningham - 3 years his predecessor.
Compare and contrast.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Tubberman on February 10, 2019, 09:44:20 PM
where's the heretofore ubiquitous Rossie?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on February 10, 2019, 09:45:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 10, 2019, 09:40:41 PM
Well that was a bolx at the end today as the blind Ulster officials combined to ensure dirt by Morgan went unpunished while a naive reaction by our man resulted in the free being overturned.
Anyway such is GAAlife.
A heroic battling backs to the wall performance by our lads in the 2nd half and did well to prevent Tyrone going on to win it.
Great block by young Lyons to save the day.
Some excellent points by us in our purple patch before half time.

At least we didn't concede 4-24,.
If someone told me before Christmas that we'd be disappointed to draw with Tyrone, would beat Monaghan and coulda mighta have drawn with Mayowestros , would concede 2-31 in 3 games and would have an organised defensive structure.....I'd have said give me some of your tablets.

Shows what happens when you have a Manager.
2 months of Cunningham - 3 years his predecessor.
Compare and contrast.

we got to a d1 semi with the predecesor. hopefully ac can do similar.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 09:56:10 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 10, 2019, 08:47:09 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 08:38:02 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 10, 2019, 07:50:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 10, 2019, 03:56:31 PM
Can't believe Roscommon didn't beat a Tyrone side in complete disarray.
But for Morgan's sly knee and silly reaction by Harney Tyrone would have lost. Roscommon i might add were the ones in disarray. Well beaten in all super 8 matches,manager walked and have lost a number of starters due to travel,retirement and injury.

Result of the day was that away win for Galway, Kevin Walsh has played a blinder to the media about the injury crisis when about 9 of today's team will likely start come championship time and regardless what players Galway are missing they stick to their system which has produced just two league defeats in two years and both of those defeats was against Dublin.

I think it'll be more like 6 or 7 will be starting but it's hard to tell this far out with form and injury playing a large part. Lavelle, Kerin, Bradshaw (might hang in there for another year), Heaney, Flynn, Walsh. Maybe Kelly. Maybe Cooke. But they could as easily be on the bench.

I don't think Duggan will be starting. Or O'Donnell. If everyone was available. On the plus side the Daly's made a surprise come back today having not even played for NUIG for a month.

Walsh is full of surprises, keeps all guessing including his own supporters.
I thought the media favouring Monaghan was a bit off . Losing to the Dubs was no shame
Galway aren't too shabby and have good forwards.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 10, 2019, 09:59:45 PM
Was it just me or did the Galway sub pick the ball clean off the ground for the goal?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 10, 2019, 10:19:17 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on February 10, 2019, 09:45:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 10, 2019, 09:40:41 PM
Well that was a bolx at the end today as the blind Ulster officials combined to ensure dirt by Morgan went unpunished while a naive reaction by our man resulted in the free being overturned.
Anyway such is GAAlife.
A heroic battling backs to the wall performance by our lads in the 2nd half and did well to prevent Tyrone going on to win it.
Great block by young Lyons to save the day.
Some excellent points by us in our purple patch before half time.

At least we didn't concede 4-24,.
If someone told me before Christmas that we'd be disappointed to draw with Tyrone, would beat Monaghan and coulda mighta have drawn with Mayowestros , would concede 2-31 in 3 games and would have an organised defensive structure.....I'd have said give me some of your tablets.

Shows what happens when you have a Manager.
2 months of Cunningham - 3 years his predecessor.
Compare and contrast.

we got to a d1 semi with the predecesor. hopefully ac can do similar.

No semi finals now and wasn't that the work of a joint management team? i think Roscommon staying up this year will be a bigger achievement than 2016 when you consider the amount of last years panel no longer there or injured. Could have done with the two points today i feel though and won't get many better chances to beat Tyrone.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 10, 2019, 10:54:46 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 10, 2019, 09:59:45 PM
Was it just me or did the Galway sub pick the ball clean off the ground for the goal?
It's going on in every game
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: cornetto on February 11, 2019, 08:13:04 AM
League results are so hard to forecast,it is impossible to gauge a teams true worth.All teams are at different stages of training,I for one was not expecting a result against Monaghan who had beaten the dubs who thrashed galway.the rossi's on the other hand go out and beat Monaghan and were dissapointed with a draw against Tyrone.The dubs are hurting,they will probably still go on to contest the final with kerry or mayo.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 08:19:00 AM
Quote from: cornetto on February 11, 2019, 08:13:04 AM
League results are so hard to forecast,it is impossible to gauge a teams true worth.All teams are at different stages of training,I for one was not expecting a result against Monaghan who had beaten the dubs who thrashed galway.the rossi's on the other hand go out and beat Monaghan and were dissapointed with a draw against Tyrone.The dubs are hurting,they will probably still go on to contest the final with kerry or mayo.

The Dubs don't seem to be interested in the League so I don't think they are hurting
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 08:42:30 AM
Quote from: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 05:31:44 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 10, 2019, 05:21:43 PM
Quote from: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 03:36:21 PM
f**king hell, we should have gotten something out of that, only ourselves to blame
If we had gotten something out of that game, it would have been an act of thievery.

Tragic mix up to allow the move for their goal.

Yep we didn't deserve to get anything out of it based on performance, but we still had the opportunity, as bad as we were.

The goal was absolutely criminal, have no idea what the defence was thinking. We were brutal the whole game, but if we hadn't fell asleep that one time we would have given ourselves a better chance. From beating the Dubs on day one, we're sucked into the relegation battle now, Omagh in 2 weeks is massive.
It's a huge match
It would be a pity to beat the Dubs on the first day out and then get relegated
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 11, 2019, 08:57:02 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on February 10, 2019, 09:44:20 PM
where's the heretofore ubiquitous Rossie?
Careful what you wish for Tubber.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 11, 2019, 09:28:29 AM
Quote from: Itchy on February 10, 2019, 07:29:21 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 07:10:59 PM
Table heading into the 2 week break


Mayo    3    3    0    0    15    6

Kerry    3    3    0    0    8    6

Galway    3    2    0    1    -8    4

Roscommon   3    1    1    1    1    3

Dublin    3    1    0    2    7    2

Monaghan    3    1    0    2    0    2

Tyrone    3    0    1    2    -13    1

Cavan    3    0    0    3    -10    0


Some big games in the next round of fixtures

Dublin v Mayo

Tyrone v Monaghan

Galway v Kerry

Cavan v Roscommon

If Cavan could beat Roscommon and Tyrone beat Monaghan it would really make the bottom interesting!
Then if Mayo beat the Dubs, we'd be joint bottom! Epic relegation battle coming up  :D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 11, 2019, 09:43:11 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 08:22:25 PM
Dubs playing it very cute in the 5 in a row attempt. Lose a few league matches optionally so no need to bother with a league final. Leave a few crumbs for striving Kerry or rebuilding Mayo, god love them. Put the media off the trail in April/May

An easy run through Leinster without breaking sweat and 3 super 8 matches to fine tune the machine
And then see if anyone has closed the gap.
It's nonsense to say we're not trying in the league.

We're without Cluxton and Kilkenny and they are two key players (although Clifford just as important for Kerry, they were missing Moran for most of the game too, and JOD could even struggle to get back into the team!)

But every Dub there was doing his absolute best as they know it's key to retaining their place come championship. It's nonsense to say we're less interested in the league than previous years just because we're going for the 5 in a row.

We beat Galway comfortably (they play too defensive to cause up trouble) and it took really good performances from Kerry and Monaghan to beat us.
There was been some commentary that we lost to Kerry because they are ahead of us in fitness. I don't know enough to say whether that's true or not, but in the last 10 minutes with us down to 14, we were the ones that finished the strongest.

Kerry did look stronger and more athletic than in previous years. Their style reminded me of Mayo. Their defence looked much improved, and their scoretaking was a bit scary! As usual, Dubs look shaky defending a high ball. Dublin's star forwards Mannion, Con and Costello all had flashes of brilliance, but were inconsistent.

Looking forward to Mayo now, and seeing what they're like this year in the flesh. If we beat them, and Kerry beat them, then we should be able to make it to a league final and give Kerry another go. But if Mayo beat us, then we are literally in a relegation battle! Although hard to see Cavan or Tyrone taking points off us.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 11, 2019, 09:51:52 AM
Quote from: Hound on February 11, 2019, 09:43:11 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 08:22:25 PM
Dubs playing it very cute in the 5 in a row attempt. Lose a few league matches optionally so no need to bother with a league final. Leave a few crumbs for striving Kerry or rebuilding Mayo, god love them. Put the media off the trail in April/May

An easy run through Leinster without breaking sweat and 3 super 8 matches to fine tune the machine
And then see if anyone has closed the gap.
It's nonsense to say we're not trying in the league.

We're without Cluxton and Kilkenny and they are two key players (although Clifford just as important for Kerry, they were missing Moran for most of the game too, and JOD could even struggle to get back into the team!)

But every Dub there was doing his absolute best as they know it's key to retaining their place come championship. It's nonsense to say we're less interested in the league than previous years just because we're going for the 5 in a row.

We beat Galway comfortably (they play too defensive to cause up trouble) and it took really good performances from Kerry and Monaghan to beat us.
There was been some commentary that we lost to Kerry because they are ahead of us in fitness. I don't know enough to say whether that's true or not, but in the last 10 minutes with us down to 14, we were the ones that finished the strongest.

Kerry did look stronger and more athletic than in previous years. Their style reminded me of Mayo. Their defence looked much improved, and their scoretaking was a bit scary! As usual, Dubs look shaky defending a high ball. Dublin's star forwards Mannion, Con and Costello all had flashes of brilliance, but were inconsistent.

Looking forward to Mayo now, and seeing what they're like this year in the flesh. If we beat them, and Kerry beat them, then we should be able to make it to a league final and give Kerry another go. But if Mayo beat us, then we are literally in a relegation battle! Although hard to see Cavan or Tyrone taking points off us.
so you're writing off the the trip to the Hyde already?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 11, 2019, 09:55:40 AM
Quote from: cornetto on February 11, 2019, 08:13:04 AM
League results are so hard to forecast,it is impossible to gauge a teams true worth.All teams are at different stages of training,I for one was not expecting a result against Monaghan who had beaten the dubs who thrashed galway.the rossi's on the other hand go out and beat Monaghan and were dissapointed with a draw against Tyrone.The dubs are hurting,they will probably still go on to contest the final with kerry or mayo.

It's a big if but, if Mayo beat Dublin in a two weeks time the Dubs won't be contesting another league final, Mayo will have 8 points and the head to head. Kerry already have the head to head over them.

With respect to Galway, not a huge lot to say about the match in Inniskeen yesterday apart from the fact that it's a massive win in the context of staying up in Division One, even just picking up another win should be enough to stay up given that Tyrone, Cavan and Monaghan all have to play each other still plus Cavan and Tyrone have yet to play Dublin who will be improving their performance a bit as the league goes on.

First twenty minutes it was as bad a Galway start to a match as I can remember, loose on the Monaghan players despite flooding the defence, lazy tackling technique giving handy frees away, poor usage of the wind (although Monaghan suffered from the same affliction in the second period), bad shot selection/execution (the missed goal chances were horror shows), hard to pick out anything positive. Got going a bit towards the end of the half with Shane Walsh becoming influential but to be honest I thought I'd be able to leave early in the second half as I couldn't see anything but a Monaghan win with the advantage of the elements to come.
Credit to Galway in that they upped it significantly in the second half but really it was a tough ground out win, the goal was obviously the crucial score in the match. Tom Flynn was immense down the stretch and played well in general, Duane and Sean Kelly (unreal engine on the lad) had effective games, Walsh was obviously a cut above the other players when he got going. Cunningham gets himself into great positions but he isn't there yet by any means with his overall finishing, could (probably should to be honest) have scored a goal in every league game so far, in mitigation he was clearly fouled in the first half yesterday when going through on goal but still.

A lot of criticism being heaped on Galway, some justified, but entertainment value is certainly not a metric that would bother me in early February. There is plenty of work to be done but (with all due respect to Sligo and London we are at nothing if we can't win those two championship matches) this year it's all about retaining Division One status while getting the squad and team primed for the 16th of June and hopefully deep into July and August.
For all the hyperbole about the match Saturday night, and it was a great game to watch, it's just a Round 3 match in February, I don't buy the "laying down a marker for the year" narrative for a second, Kerry have done that a few times in recent league campaigns against Dublin only to be well short come the summer. The way Galway are playing right now won't beat Dublin and KW will have to come up with something at least a bit different or it'll be groundhog day if we can get far enough to play Dublin again but rehearsed lines about "football purgatory" or lamenting Galway a la Eamonn Sweeney this morning at this time of year is daft.

It would be remiss not to comment on the super facilities that are in place in Inniskeen, especially for what seems a small enough club, it's a credit to the locals. No hassle to get in/out of and the pitch was in immaculate condition for this time of year as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 10:21:10 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 11, 2019, 09:55:40 AM
Quote from: cornetto on February 11, 2019, 08:13:04 AM
League results are so hard to forecast,it is impossible to gauge a teams true worth.All teams are at different stages of training,I for one was not expecting a result against Monaghan who had beaten the dubs who thrashed galway.the rossi's on the other hand go out and beat Monaghan and were dissapointed with a draw against Tyrone.The dubs are hurting,they will probably still go on to contest the final with kerry or mayo.

It's a big if but, if Mayo beat Dublin in a two weeks time the Dubs won't be contesting another league final, Mayo will have 8 points and the head to head. Kerry already have the head to head over them.

With respect to Galway, not a huge lot to say about the match in Inniskeen yesterday apart from the fact that it's a massive win in the context of staying up in Division One, even just picking up another win should be enough to stay up given that Tyrone, Cavan and Monaghan all have to play each other still plus Cavan and Tyrone have yet to play Dublin who will be improving their performance a bit as the league goes on.

First twenty minutes it was as bad a Galway start to a match as I can remember, loose on the Monaghan players despite flooding the defence, lazy tackling technique giving handy frees away, poor usage of the wind (although Monaghan suffered from the same affliction in the second period), bad shot selection/execution (the missed goal chances were horror shows), hard to pick out anything positive. Got going a bit towards the end of the half with Shane Walsh becoming influential but to be honest I thought I'd be able to leave early in the second half as I couldn't see anything but a Monaghan win with the advantage of the elements to come.
Credit to Galway in that they upped it significantly in the second half but really it was a tough ground out win, the goal was obviously the crucial score in the match. Tom Flynn was immense down the stretch and played well in general, Duane and Sean Kelly (unreal engine on the lad) had effective games, Walsh was obviously a cut above the other players when he got going. Cunningham gets himself into great positions but he isn't there yet by any means with his overall finishing, could (probably should to be honest) have scored a goal in every league game so far, in mitigation he was clearly fouled in the first half yesterday when going through on goal but still.

A lot of criticism being heaped on Galway, some justified, but entertainment value is certainly not a metric that would bother me in early February. There is plenty of work to be done but (with all due respect to Sligo and London we are at nothing if we can't win those two championship matches) this year it's all about retaining Division One status while getting the squad and team primed for the 16th of June and hopefully deep into July and August.
For all the hyperbole about the match Saturday night, and it was a great game to watch, it's just a Round 3 match in February, I don't buy the "laying down a marker for the year" narrative for a second, Kerry have done that a few times in recent league campaigns against Dublin only to be well short come the summer. The way Galway are playing right now won't beat Dublin and KW will have to come up with something at least a bit different or it'll be groundhog day if we can get far enough to play Dublin again but rehearsed lines about "football purgatory" or lamenting Galway a la Eamonn Sweeney this morning at this time of year is daft.

It would be remiss not to comment on the super facilities that are in place in Inniskeen, especially for what seems a small enough club, it's a credit to the locals. No hassle to get in/out of and the pitch was in immaculate condition for this time of year as well.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/both-teams-play-better-into-the-wind-as-galway-beat-monaghan-1.3788828

Walsh, pleased to have got the trauma of the previous week's cuffing in Croke Park out of their system, was frank when asked afterwards about the concept of a team's duty to entertain.
"With the amount of work that goes into this now, people are pushing the rules to the limits to the areas where you can take it to - I'm not talking about physicality here, I'm talking about the rules. That's life, if the opinion is that you just want to entertain then that's fine too but you have to try and get results."
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 10:32:49 AM
Quote from: Hound on February 11, 2019, 09:43:11 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 08:22:25 PM
Dubs playing it very cute in the 5 in a row attempt. Lose a few league matches optionally so no need to bother with a league final. Leave a few crumbs for striving Kerry or rebuilding Mayo, god love them. Put the media off the trail in April/May

An easy run through Leinster without breaking sweat and 3 super 8 matches to fine tune the machine
And then see if anyone has closed the gap.
It's nonsense to say we're not trying in the league.

We're without Cluxton and Kilkenny and they are two key players (although Clifford just as important for Kerry, they were missing Moran for most of the game too, and JOD could even struggle to get back into the team!)

But every Dub there was doing his absolute best as they know it's key to retaining their place come championship. It's nonsense to say we're less interested in the league than previous years just because we're going for the 5 in a row.

We beat Galway comfortably (they play too defensive to cause up trouble) and it took really good performances from Kerry and Monaghan to beat us.
There was been some commentary that we lost to Kerry because they are ahead of us in fitness. I don't know enough to say whether that's true or not, but in the last 10 minutes with us down to 14, we were the ones that finished the strongest.

Kerry did look stronger and more athletic than in previous years. Their style reminded me of Mayo. Their defence looked much improved, and their scoretaking was a bit scary! As usual, Dubs look shaky defending a high ball. Dublin's star forwards Mannion, Con and Costello all had flashes of brilliance, but were inconsistent.

Looking forward to Mayo now, and seeing what they're like this year in the flesh. If we beat them, and Kerry beat them, then we should be able to make it to a league final and give Kerry another go. But if Mayo beat us, then we are literally in a relegation battle! Although hard to see Cavan or Tyrone taking points off us.

Plamas

The Dubs don't care about this league. 2 losses out of 3 says it all.
The relentless focus is on the 5 in a row

All the muppets who backed the machine at 4/7 in early January will get hosed.   
Tyrone have also been undercooked 

D1 Odds via Oddschecker
19.1

Dubs           4/7
Kerry          7/1
Tyrone        8/1
Mayo       10/1
Galway        12/1
Monaghan    16/1
Ros             50/1
Cavan          100/1

10/2

Kerry 7/4
Dubs 9/4
Mayo 11/4
Galway 8/1
Monaghan 40/1
Tyrone 50/1
Ros     66/1
Cavan 500/1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 11, 2019, 11:28:40 AM
Good man seafoid. Clueless as always.
Dubs don't want a distraction of a league final so deliberately lost to Kerry. Threw Flynn and Macauley on to make sure we wouldnt come back. Accidentally clawed it back to level, but gave them a handy point to win it, and Fento blazed the last one wide rather than try to work it into an easier position, just to make sure Kerry took all 2 points.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 11, 2019, 11:49:28 AM
Most probably (with any degree of certainity) only the addition of Cluxton to the line up would have swung that game Dublin's way. Though Dublin did finish strong, Kerry held them up and had something extra left in the tank in the final minutes.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 11:54:30 AM
Quote from: Hound on February 11, 2019, 11:28:40 AM
Good man seafoid. Clueless as always.
Dubs don't want a distraction of a league final so deliberately lost to Kerry. Threw Flynn and Macauley on to make sure we wouldnt come back. Accidentally clawed it back to level, but gave them a handy point to win it, and Fento blazed the last one wide rather than try to work it into an easier position, just to make sure Kerry took all 2 points.

The Dubs are at least 5 or 6 points better than Kerry when they can be arsed, Hound
They don't care  about the league.
Flynn and Macauley get a bit of game time but the result is irrelevant. 

All Ireland Senior  Football Championship

Dublin 8/13
Kerry 6/1

Fento blazing one wide wouldn't account for the gap , would it  ?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 01:53:37 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 11, 2019, 02:03:29 PM
Dubs are back at their home ground again - SORRY not their home ground. Their rented home, that's located in the same county and within view of their home ground.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 11, 2019, 02:08:29 PM
Do the Dubs have to pay rent to use CP?

Somehow I imagine there's a virtual red carpet laid from their training ground to CP.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2019, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 01:53:37 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 11, 2019, 02:47:18 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2019, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 01:53:37 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League and Championship since 2012. That's nearly 7 years.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 02:53:39 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 11, 2019, 02:47:18 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2019, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 01:53:37 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League and Championship since 2012. That's nearly 7 years.
It depends which Dubs turn up really, doesn't it? It may be the non contact Dubs where Fento misses in the last minute

3 Connacht teams in the top 4 and the bottom 3 are the 3 Ulster teams
#Jaysus
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 11, 2019, 02:47:18 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2019, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 01:53:37 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League and Championship since 2012. That's nearly 7 years.

Would that be case if James Horan had remained manager all this time? Horan has beaten Dublin in both league and championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on February 11, 2019, 08:23:49 PM
Yes that would be the case , Dublin were that little bit better than us , possibly had them in 16 if bastick had of been pulled for the clear off the ground pick up with the hands , it was a free in to win the all Ireland ,cillian had just scored a screamer to level it from about 40yrds out , absolute shoe in to score from a 21 free.  Anyway them days are past now . So I don't believe Horan would of made any difference ,to answer your question.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 11, 2019, 09:08:30 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 11, 2019, 08:23:49 PM
Yes that would be the case , Dublin were that little bit better than us , possibly had them in 16 if bastick had of been pulled for the clear off the ground pick up with the hands , it was a free in to win the all Ireland ,cillian had just scored a screamer to level it from about 40yrds out , absolute shoe in to score from a 21 free.  Anyway them days are past now . So I don't believe Horan would of made any difference ,to answer your question.

You'll never get those tight calls in an away fixture.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 11, 2019, 09:18:20 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 11, 2019, 02:47:18 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2019, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 01:53:37 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League and Championship since 2012. That's nearly 7 years.

Would that be case if James Horan had remained manager all this time? Horan has beaten Dublin in both league and championship.
Ah, if only me auntie... ;D ;D
We will never know. It could help to pass a few cold winter nights in front of a blazing fire and sitting on a high stoll with a pint in yer hand and a few earlier ones settling down nicely but other than that, it's of no relevance now.
But if I was sitting on the stool beside you, I'd be inclined to bet that Horan wouldn't have won an AI in his first term.
Maybe he is older and wiser now. Hope so anyway.
He proved to be awfully slow to make running changes in the course of games and by all accounts was one obstinate hoor to deal with- my way o the high way- ask James Nallen or Kieran Shannon about that.
For my money, there was sweet FA between the Dublin and Mayo in recent games and all could have gone the other way. But, it wasn't just a case of Dublin having the rub of the green every time either. If they had lost any of those games, their fans would be bitching about borderline decisions or blind bleedin' refs or whatever.
For me, the  essential little nudge Dublin got to take the over the line each time came from the bench.
They had and will have an inexhaustible supply of talented young players coming through all the time.
For Horan, it was a case of all fur coat and no knickers every year. He had a super first fifteen but the backup talent needed to win just wasn't there.
This year is starting to look good and I'm beginning to hope again- maybe not this year but next one might be interesting.
I mean there are a lot of young players about now that look as if they could be useful to downright brilliant in the not-too-distant future.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 11, 2019, 10:04:09 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on February 11, 2019, 09:18:20 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 11, 2019, 02:47:18 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2019, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 01:53:37 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League and Championship since 2012. That's nearly 7 years.

Would that be case if James Horan had remained manager all this time? Horan has beaten Dublin in both league and championship.
Ah, if only me auntie... ;D ;D
We will never know. It could help to pass a few cold winter nights in front of a blazing fire and sitting on a high stoll with a pint in yer hand and a few earlier ones settling down nicely but other than that, it's of no relevance now.
But if I was sitting on the stool beside you, I'd be inclined to bet that Horan wouldn't have won an AI in his first term.
Maybe he is older and wiser now. Hope so anyway.
He proved to be awfully slow to make running changes in the course of games and by all accounts was one obstinate hoor to deal with- my way o the high way- ask James Nallen or Kieran Shannon about that.
For my money, there was sweet FA between the Dublin and Mayo in recent games and all could have gone the other way. But, it wasn't just a case of Dublin having the rub of the green every time either. If they had lost any of those games, their fans would be bitching about borderline decisions or blind bleedin' refs or whatever.
For me, the  essential little nudge Dublin got to take the over the line each time came from the bench.
They had and will have an inexhaustible supply of talented young players coming through all the time.
For Horan, it was a case of all fur coat and no knickers every year. He had a super first fifteen but the backup talent needed to win just wasn't there.
This year is starting to look good and I'm beginning to hope again- maybe not this year but next one might be interesting.
I mean there are a lot of young players about now that look as if they could be useful to downright brilliant in the not-too-distant future.

May have my blinkers on, but I cannot think of any Referee decision or piece of good fortune that fell to Mayo in any of the Dublin/Mayo Championship games since 2012! Cannot think of any rub of the green.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 11, 2019, 10:16:58 PM
Maybe New Roscommon will put ye out of ye're misery at th'end o' May😀
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on February 11, 2019, 10:28:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 11, 2019, 10:16:58 PM
Maybe New Roscommon will put ye out of ye're misery at th'end o' May😀

"New Roscommon"? Is that to account for the diaspora that's now in ye're ranks?  ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on February 11, 2019, 10:58:55 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2019, 10:28:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 11, 2019, 10:16:58 PM
Maybe New Roscommon will put ye out of ye're misery at th'end o' May😀

"New Roscommon"? Is that to account for the diaspora that's now in ye're ranks?  ;D
Is that the diaspora as Tom Parsons {Sligo} and Andy Moran {Roscommon}
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 11, 2019, 11:02:16 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2019, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 01:53:37 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

I just can't imagine James Horan is even remotely interested in winning the league.
Equally there is no strongest team in reserve for a special gig v the Dubs. I expect another bit of development in this game and see how it goes. In his first term, league games V Dublin, Horan played it fast and loose and so did the Dubs. They don't anymore and teams can t get a run on them anymore either. They are more interested in controlling games these days than killing teams. They are in transition as well (a winning transition!) and would be no shock if Mayo beat them.
The thing is, it doesn't matter how it pans out. Dublin probably have greater need for points and that should do it. Doesn't matter though. A good football game would be the best outcome.

On a completely unrelated topic, it is surprising really it has taken this long to discover - I'm talking RTE here really - what a great product a Saturday night game in a provincial ground is.
,
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 11, 2019, 11:08:43 PM
A Moysider, they got lucky, if Monaghan v Galway had been Saturday nite we'd be wondering what they were at. There's a case to never show another Galway match ever though, even as highlights. But Kerry v Cavan the previous week was poor too. It's hit and miss with the league. 


As an occasion for supporters it's one of my favourites, the Down Mayo game a few years ago in Castlebar that ended in a draw and the Armagh match above there where O'Shea flittered their midfielder with a shoulder being two highlights
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: blast05 on February 11, 2019, 11:27:13 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 11, 2019, 11:02:16 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2019, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 01:53:37 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

I just can't imagine James Horan is even remotely interested in winning the league.
Equally there is no strongest team in reserve for a special gig v the Dubs. I expect another bit of development in this game and see how it goes. In his first term, league games V Dublin, Horan played it fast and loose and so did the Dubs.
,

True.
But i'm giddy with excitement at the prospect of Ryan O'Donoghue eventually being given a game and ripping up defences with his pace !!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 11, 2019, 11:32:59 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2019, 10:28:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 11, 2019, 10:16:58 PM
Maybe New Roscommon will put ye out of ye're misery at th'end o' May😀

"New Roscommon"?
A team with a defence, steel and a Manager.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: highorlow on February 11, 2019, 11:42:52 PM
What's the expected attendance for Dublin v Mayo? 30k plus?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 11, 2019, 11:51:08 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 11, 2019, 11:08:43 PM
A Moysider, they got lucky, if Monaghan v Galway had been Saturday nite we'd be wondering what they were at. There's a case to never show another Galway match ever though, even as highlights. But Kerry v Cavan the previous week was poor too. It's hit and miss with the league. 


As an occasion for supporters it's one of my favourites, the Down Mayo game a few years ago in Castlebar that ended in a draw and the Armagh match above there where O'Shea flittered their midfielder with a shoulder being two highlights

I take the point about being lucky for sure. But it has huge potential to grow the game as well. Dublin v Mayo could be a spectacle but will be swamped in a big ground.
As for Galway v Monaghan and others? Sooner rather than later the penny has to drop that there is an entertainment requirement that has to be addressed. Likes of Galway messing about playing anti-football is pathetic - no easy way to put it.
On the other hand likes of Cork getting beaten by Clare every other week is very satisfying!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 11, 2019, 11:53:21 PM
Quote from: blast05 on February 11, 2019, 11:27:13 PM
Quote from: moysider on February 11, 2019, 11:02:16 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2019, 02:32:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 01:53:37 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

I just can't imagine James Horan is even remotely interested in winning the league.
Equally there is no strongest team in reserve for a special gig v the Dubs. I expect another bit of development in this game and see how it goes. In his first term, league games V Dublin, Horan played it fast and loose and so did the Dubs.
,

True.
But i'm giddy with excitement at the prospect of Ryan O'Donoghue eventually being given a game and ripping up defences with his pace !!

Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 12, 2019, 12:02:30 AM
Quote from: highorlow on February 11, 2019, 11:42:52 PM
What's the expected attendance for Dublin v Mayo? 30k plus?

You serious?! Why that many?
Castlebar would get 15-18 maybe ..... maybe?
How would there be 30+ in Dublin?
I think there should be though!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: highorlow on February 12, 2019, 12:19:07 AM
I'd expect the Dublin supporters to show up in force for this one. 7k in Tralee must equate to 20 or more at home.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 12, 2019, 12:50:13 AM
Quote from: highorlow on February 12, 2019, 12:19:07 AM
I'd expect the Dublin supporters to show up in force for this one. 7k in Tralee must equate to 20 or more at home.

In fairness to the true Dubs, they love the away games and the core have always travelled.
Hope you are right about this one though. I think it could be a great Saturday night league game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 12, 2019, 08:19:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 11, 2019, 11:32:59 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2019, 10:28:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 11, 2019, 10:16:58 PM
Maybe New Roscommon will put ye out of ye're misery at th'end o' May😀

"New Roscommon"?
A team with a defence, steel and a Manager.
Lookit

I remember 2012 and the Leinster Final. Cunningham's first year
They did a cull of the non performers the previous autumn and built up from scratch with an u21 team that wasn't used to losing

www.youtu.be/rb52kJeCzoA

It was wonderful after 20 plus years largely of shite and inconsistency
They could have won the all Ireland that year but didn't have the cuteness and KK were very strong
The work they started eventually led to the all Ireland in 2017 

It is good to see the neighbours doing well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 12, 2019, 09:47:15 AM
Thanks Seafóidín.
We've improved by 3-14 against Tyrone anyways.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on February 12, 2019, 11:08:18 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 12, 2019, 09:47:15 AM
Thanks Seafóidín.
We've improved by 3-14 against Tyrone anyways.

Maybe we've got worse by 3-14?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 12, 2019, 11:57:40 AM
What did the Galway posters make of Antaine O'Laoi? I thought he played well, certainly is too light but certainly has the pace and skillset to trouble a good defender. Cunnigham is very frustrating but its too be expected given he's played very little football for 5 years; No problem in winning the ball but its hard to know whats going to happen when he gets it, scored a good point against the wind with his weaker foot and should have scored a goal but lacked composure. Just think its might be another year to two before we see the best of him.

John Daly looks the part although he's got work to do on his strength but thats to be expected given he's still u21. Wynne is mobile enough but is just not a good enough defender of good enough on the ball to be playing. O'Donnell looks like he's coming to the end, pace wise he's never been quick but looks to have slowed down from last year; Duane isn't that quick either but has overtaken O'Donnell if it was up to me. Cooke looked shattered after 5 minutes, thankfully he has no game mid week.

Delighted to get the result, really didn't see it coming with all the lads missing. Galway certainly hit more than any other team in div 1 with injuries and then there's the Corofin lads missing too.

Galway excellent against the wind but woeful with it, thats got to change. That first 15 minutes was dreadful stuff, appalling to watch.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on February 12, 2019, 12:25:38 PM
Fair play to Kerry, good game of ball, good atmosphere around the town afterwards.

There is nothing like a couple of defeats to put the sting in the tail for the Dubs, the only thing that matters is the Super 8s onwards.

Mayo Kerry league final would be welcomed.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 12, 2019, 12:56:58 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 12, 2019, 12:25:38 PM
Fair play to Kerry, good game of ball, good atmosphere around the town afterwards.

There is nothing like a couple of defeats to put the sting in the tail for the Dubs, the only thing that matters is the Super 8s onwards.

Mayo Kerry league final would be welcomed.

Gavin definitely had to tailor your season to build fitness towards the championship more than recent years as the physical and mental strain would probably have been too much on the journey to the drive for five if you went all out to dominate the league, and you can see lads like Mannion, Cooper, Fenton, McAuley, Rock, Howard etc.. are getting sharper with every game.
It will be interesting to see how our new boys will get on against the All Ireland champs Sat week in Croker. I think the wider faster pitch compared to the McHale Park sanded bog will better suit our style under Horan and it will be intriguing to see if this plus the obvious extra work our lads have over the Dubs at the moment will be enough to bridge the huge gap between us in previous league meetings.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: weareros on February 12, 2019, 02:19:34 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 12, 2019, 12:25:38 PM
Mayo Kerry league final would be welcomed.

By Jim Gavin most of all.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 12, 2019, 04:10:43 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on February 12, 2019, 12:56:58 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 12, 2019, 12:25:38 PM
Fair play to Kerry, good game of ball, good atmosphere around the town afterwards.

There is nothing like a couple of defeats to put the sting in the tail for the Dubs, the only thing that matters is the Super 8s onwards.

Mayo Kerry league final would be welcomed.

Gavin definitely had to tailor your season to build fitness towards the championship more than recent years as the physical and mental strain would probably have been too much on the journey to the drive for five if you went all out to dominate the league, and you can see lads like Mannion, Cooper, Fenton, McAuley, Rock, Howard etc.. are getting sharper with every game.
It will be interesting to see how our new boys will get on against the All Ireland champs Sat week in Croker. I think the wider faster pitch compared to the McHale Park sanded bog will better suit our style under Horan and it will be intriguing to see if this plus the obvious extra work our lads have over the Dubs at the moment will be enough to bridge the huge gap between us in previous league meetings.
It's far from make or break, but I still think Gavin would prefer Dubs to be in a league final. It's a competitive game, which is great preparation and you learn more from competitive games than any other. And while come August, many might not care who had won the league, on the day every single player on both sides will be doing their best to win.

In the 90s winning the league was seen in a similar fashion to winning the Par 3 in Augusta. There was only 1 double in a 13 year period.
Whereas from 2003 onwards there's been 9 doubles done.
A lot of people think that Dubs learning to beat Tyrone and Kerry in the league, helped us learn how to finally beat them in the championship, after years of being nearlymen.

The last year the Dubs didn't make the league final, 2012, we didn't win Sam. There was the 2011 hangover, so maybe not the biggest surprise. But in hindsight getting to a competitive league final, which I'd say we most likely would have lost, would have been the best thing that could have happened to us. Instead the first really competitive game we had, we were knocked out of the championship.

Certainly getting to a league final has never hurt us under the Gilroy/Gavin years, so while Jim won't lose any sleep over it, I'd be pretty sure he'd prefer to stick with the winning formula and get that extra competitive game in. Unless, maybe he thinks we'll get it against Meath for a change in Leinster!

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 12, 2019, 04:25:48 PM
Quote from: Hound on February 12, 2019, 04:10:43 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on February 12, 2019, 12:56:58 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 12, 2019, 12:25:38 PM
Fair play to Kerry, good game of ball, good atmosphere around the town afterwards.

There is nothing like a couple of defeats to put the sting in the tail for the Dubs, the only thing that matters is the Super 8s onwards.

Mayo Kerry league final would be welcomed.

Gavin definitely had to tailor your season to build fitness towards the championship more than recent years as the physical and mental strain would probably have been too much on the journey to the drive for five if you went all out to dominate the league, and you can see lads like Mannion, Cooper, Fenton, McAuley, Rock, Howard etc.. are getting sharper with every game.
It will be interesting to see how our new boys will get on against the All Ireland champs Sat week in Croker. I think the wider faster pitch compared to the McHale Park sanded bog will better suit our style under Horan and it will be intriguing to see if this plus the obvious extra work our lads have over the Dubs at the moment will be enough to bridge the huge gap between us in previous league meetings.
It's far from make or break, but I still think Gavin would prefer Dubs to be in a league final. It's a competitive game, which is great preparation and you learn more from competitive games than any other. And while come August, many might not care who had won the league, on the day every single player on both sides will be doing their best to win.

In the 90s winning the league was seen in a similar fashion to winning the Par 3 in Augusta. There was only 1 double in a 13 year period.
Whereas from 2003 onwards there's been 9 doubles done.
A lot of people think that Dubs learning to beat Tyrone and Kerry in the league, helped us learn how to finally beat them in the championship, after years of being nearlymen.

The last year the Dubs didn't make the league final, 2012, we didn't win Sam. There was the 2011 hangover, so maybe not the biggest surprise. But in hindsight getting to a competitive league final, which I'd say we most likely would have lost, would have been the best thing that could have happened to us. Instead the first really competitive game we had, we were knocked out of the championship.

Certainly getting to a league final has never hurt us under the Gilroy/Gavin years, so while Jim won't lose any sleep over it, I'd be pretty sure he'd prefer to stick with the winning formula and get that extra competitive game in. Unless, maybe he thinks we'll get it against Meath for a change in Leinster!

https://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=24931.0
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on February 12, 2019, 05:31:40 PM
I can't understand this craic of thinking Dublin are out of the running to win the league , do ye not think they are capable of winning all their remaining games ? Personally I think they will win it out and in style too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 12, 2019, 05:38:16 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 12, 2019, 05:31:40 PM
I can't understand this craic of thinking Dublin are out of the running to win the league , do ye not think they are capable of winning all their remaining games ? Personally I think they will win it out and in style too.

The top two teams in Division 1 contest the National Football League final. The bottom two teams are relegated to Division 2.

If 2 teams end on one loss each and the Dubs win the next 4 games and have 2 losses they won't qualify

Mayo, Kerry, Galway and Ros all have superior losses to the Dubs . I don't think the Dubs are interested in the League this year
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 12, 2019, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 12, 2019, 05:31:40 PM
I can't understand this craic of thinking Dublin are out of the running to win the league , do ye not think they are capable of winning all their remaining games ? Personally I think they will win it out and in style too.

I expect them to win all their remaining games, whether thats enough to get them to a league final I don't know.

I'm surprised at the ex Kerry players the last few days, cute Kerry hoorism appears to have disappeared and they've got a bit carried away. Then there's the media, in the last 3 weeks they've got carried away with Monaghan, Mayo and now Kerry. I've not seen anything from anyone to suggest they could get within a few scores of Dublin, Kerry in particular conceded 2 goals against Dublin; Peter Keane will certainly be alarmed at how easy both goals were.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 12, 2019, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 12, 2019, 05:38:16 PM
The top two teams in Division 1 contest the National Football League final. The bottom two teams are relegated to Division 2.

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Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 12, 2019, 06:35:11 PM
I was just looking at the odds there
Tyrone have drifted out from 8/1 to 50/1
The bookies obviously hate Tyrone as well
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: tonto1888 on February 12, 2019, 09:01:39 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 12, 2019, 05:38:16 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on February 12, 2019, 05:31:40 PM
I can't understand this craic of thinking Dublin are out of the running to win the league , do ye not think they are capable of winning all their remaining games ? Personally I think they will win it out and in style too.

The top two teams in Division 1 contest the National Football League final. The bottom two teams are relegated to Division 2.

If 2 teams end on one loss each and the Dubs win the next 4 games and have 2 losses they won't qualify

Mayo, Kerry, Galway and Ros all have superior losses to the Dubs . I don't think the Dubs are interested in the League this year

Superior losses?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Ringfort on February 12, 2019, 10:18:42 PM
I've really enjoyed the league again this year, three rounds in, plenty of stories and intrigue. The super 8s were introduced to try and improve the structural mess of the championship and there is constant talk of tiered championships. Maybe the powers that be were over complicating things. The perfect tiered competition is staring them in the face and more and more people are open about the league being the best competition we have. How about we just improve what we have???

Give the league more prominence.
Cut out the flab out of the championshiip.

I would run the league and championship concurrently. Three league divisions of 10,10,12 played from March to June. Championship starting in April and an open draw straight knockout played in between league games much like the soccer in England does the FA Cup. League semis and finals in July. AI final August bank holiday weekend.

Provincial championships played in Jan/Feb as stand alone competitions directly replacing FBD, McGrath cup etc.

Crucially, club leagues run in tandem with the county season from March to July. WITHOUT county panelists unless deliberately released by county management. Club championship played with full panel when county season over in August, Sept and October.

I know this is a bit off topic but I've just been thinking of ways to improve the league as you still get the very top teams (Kerry, Dublin ) giving it the "arra it's only the league we won't be getting excited" and "we're only back 4 weeks ie we don't give a shit" when for everyone else it's the best competition they have yet isn't given the full respect it deserves.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oliverkelly on February 12, 2019, 10:18:56 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 12, 2019, 06:35:11 PM
I was just looking at the odds there
Tyrone have drifted out from 8/1 to 50/1
The bookies obviously hate Tyrone as well

Wouldnt say that just reckon they've copped there operating at a way lower level and had a terrible ref not gave them multiple favourable decisions they woukd have one less point
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 13, 2019, 01:05:51 AM
That Mooney fella did them no harm anyway.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Soju on February 13, 2019, 03:05:17 AM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on February 13, 2019, 08:12:22 AM
Quote from: Ringfort on February 12, 2019, 10:18:42 PM
I've really enjoyed the league again this year, three rounds in, plenty of stories and intrigue. The super 8s were introduced to try and improve the structural mess of the championship and there is constant talk of tiered championships. Maybe the powers that be were over complicating things. The perfect tiered competition is staring them in the face and more and more people are open about the league being the best competition we have. How about we just improve what we have???

Give the league more prominence.
Cut out the flab out of the championshiip.

I would run the league and championship concurrently. Three league divisions of 10,10,12 played from March to June. Championship starting in April and an open draw straight knockout played in between league games much like the soccer in England does the FA Cup. League semis and finals in July. AI final August bank holiday weekend.

Provincial championships played in Jan/Feb as stand alone competitions directly replacing FBD, McGrath cup etc.

Crucially, club leagues run in tandem with the county season from March to July. WITHOUT county panelists unless deliberately released by county management. Club championship played with full panel when county season over in August, Sept and October.

I know this is a bit off topic but I've just been thinking of ways to improve the league as you still get the very top teams (Kerry, Dublin ) giving it the "arra it's only the league we won't be getting excited" and "we're only back 4 weeks ie we don't give a shit" when for everyone else it's the best competition they have yet isn't given the full respect it deserves.

As Dublin fan and from a Dublin perspective, the league is a much better competition and worth more winning that the Leinster championship which is a dead competition and Dublin have 3 pre knock stage friendlies before the Super 8S, Lets be honest. Meath joint top of Div is a small hope.

The home and away format of the league is the way forward for the championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 08:59:37 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 13, 2019, 08:12:22 AM
Quote from: Ringfort on February 12, 2019, 10:18:42 PM
I've really enjoyed the league again this year, three rounds in, plenty of stories and intrigue. The super 8s were introduced to try and improve the structural mess of the championship and there is constant talk of tiered championships. Maybe the powers that be were over complicating things. The perfect tiered competition is staring them in the face and more and more people are open about the league being the best competition we have. How about we just improve what we have???

Give the league more prominence.
Cut out the flab out of the championshiip.

I would run the league and championship concurrently. Three league divisions of 10,10,12 played from March to June. Championship starting in April and an open draw straight knockout played in between league games much like the soccer in England does the FA Cup. League semis and finals in July. AI final August bank holiday weekend.

Provincial championships played in Jan/Feb as stand alone competitions directly replacing FBD, McGrath cup etc.

Crucially, club leagues run in tandem with the county season from March to July. WITHOUT county panelists unless deliberately released by county management. Club championship played with full panel when county season over in August, Sept and October.

I know this is a bit off topic but I've just been thinking of ways to improve the league as you still get the very top teams (Kerry, Dublin ) giving it the "arra it's only the league we won't be getting excited" and "we're only back 4 weeks ie we don't give a shit" when for everyone else it's the best competition they have yet isn't given the full respect it deserves.

As Dublin fan and from a Dublin perspective, the league is a much better competition and worth more winning that the Leinster championship which is a dead competition and Dublin have 3 pre knock stage friendlies before the Super 8S, Lets be honest. Meath joint top of Div is a small hope.

The home and away format of the league is the way forward for the championship.
dead competition because ye play all the games at home
last time ye were in longford in 2006 ye barely got out of there and ye didn't have to play another game outside Croker for 10 years
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: northsideboy on February 13, 2019, 09:23:24 AM
Quote from: Soju on February 13, 2019, 03:05:17 AM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
There is plenty that could be said about that writer. Interesting isn't the term that I would use though.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 09:25:05 AM
Quote from: northsideboy on February 13, 2019, 09:23:24 AM
Quote from: Soju on February 13, 2019, 03:05:17 AM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
There is plenty that could be said about that writer. Interesting isn't the term that I would use though.
attack the writer, classic deflection
why not debate the issues?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on February 13, 2019, 09:53:27 AM
Quote from: northsideboy on February 13, 2019, 09:23:24 AM
Quote from: Soju on February 13, 2019, 03:05:17 AM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
There is plenty that could be said about that writer. Interesting isn't the term that I would use though.

I've little time for McKenna generally but ffs, how can you argue against the points raised in this article? The GAA set up committees to make endless baffling changes to the rules, under the guise of saving the game, whilst they continue to actively fund, promote and facilitate its biggest killer. Its unreal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 13, 2019, 09:53:53 AM
Predicting the league this year is hard
Irish Times from Saturday

Monaghan v Galway, Inniskeen [Live, TG4] – Two teams with a 50-50 record to date and a fair bit of recent history. The evening Galway's progressive 2018 went off the rails was when Monaghan arrived in Salthill for the last of the All-Ireland quarter-final round robins. The home side's performance was astonishingly poor and it was downhill from there. Against Dublin they flattered to deceive and have now been further reduced by injuries to Cillian McDaid, who was impressive early on last week but now needs surgery on his foot, former All Star nominee Declan Kyne (ankle injury), and full back Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (shoulder). At home Monaghan will want to get back on the track that led them to beat Dublin on opening day. Verdict: Monaghan
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Tubberman on February 13, 2019, 09:58:31 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 13, 2019, 09:53:53 AM
Predicting the league this year is hard
Irish Times from Saturday

Monaghan v Galway, Inniskeen [Live, TG4] – Two teams with a 50-50 record to date and a fair bit of recent history. The evening Galway's progressive 2018 went off the rails was when Monaghan arrived in Salthill for the last of the All-Ireland quarter-final round robins. The home side's performance was astonishingly poor and it was downhill from there. Against Dublin they flattered to deceive and have now been further reduced by injuries to Cillian McDaid, who was impressive early on last week but now needs surgery on his foot, former All Star nominee Declan Kyne (ankle injury), and full back Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (shoulder). At home Monaghan will want to get back on the track that led them to beat Dublin on opening day. Verdict: Monaghan

Hindsight is you've engaged in there.
The league is always difficult to predict, that's why people enjoy it. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 11:14:09 AM
The biggest issue in Dublin  is not enough clubs
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on February 13, 2019, 11:38:33 AM
Was there much discussion of the schemozzle on RTÉ on Saturday night? It was passed over completely on Sunday evening by the Dolan & Brolly. Tbh, I've no problem with that as I don't think there was a lot in it but hopefully they'll be consistent when it's two other counties.....
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: northsideboy on February 13, 2019, 12:12:22 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 09:25:05 AM
Quote from: northsideboy on February 13, 2019, 09:23:24 AM
Quote from: Soju on February 13, 2019, 03:05:17 AM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
There is plenty that could be said about that writer. Interesting isn't the term that I would use though.
attack the writer, classic deflection
why not debate the issues?
When a writer is so embittered as he is, he best left ignored
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 13, 2019, 12:18:57 PM
Quote from: northsideboy on February 13, 2019, 12:12:22 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 09:25:05 AM
Quote from: northsideboy on February 13, 2019, 09:23:24 AM
Quote from: Soju on February 13, 2019, 03:05:17 AM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
There is plenty that could be said about that writer. Interesting isn't the term that I would use though.
attack the writer, classic deflection
why not debate the issues?
When a writer is so embittered as he is, he best left ignored

When i seen "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche" it shows he definitely reads GAABOARD. ;)

A great concise piece. There are a growing amount of us bitters. And for good reason. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 13, 2019, 12:19:18 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.

Whilst we're on about Mayo I read the other day that there charging $25000 for a table of 10 at a fundraiser in the states!! If they can sell all those tables for that amount then you'd have to take your hat off to them. I can't understand their county board though, they've a huge diaspora which is probably bigger than anyone elses that they could take more advantage off. Their lack of a commercial manager is baffling, they should have been taking advantage of this team since 2012.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: weareros on February 13, 2019, 01:34:40 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 13, 2019, 12:19:18 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.

Whilst we're on about Mayo I read the other day that there charging $25000 for a table of 10 at a fundraiser in the states!! If they can sell all those tables for that amount then you'd have to take your hat off to them. I can't understand their county board though, they've a huge diaspora which is probably bigger than anyone elses that they could take more advantage off. Their lack of a commercial manager is baffling, they should have been taking advantage of this team since 2012.

Was there some brouhaha with the Mayo county board trying to get the team attend a function right before the championship match in NY, and the team rightly declined. Or was that us the Rossies. I can never remember which county board annoys their supporters the most.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 13, 2019, 02:44:19 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 13, 2019, 12:19:18 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.

Whilst we're on about Mayo I read the other day that there charging $25000 for a table of 10 at a fundraiser in the states!! If they can sell all those tables for that amount then you'd have to take your hat off to them. I can't understand their county board though, they've a huge diaspora which is probably bigger than anyone elses that they could take more advantage off. Their lack of a commercial manager is baffling, they should have been taking advantage of this team since 2012.

Don't worry Manc most of us don't understand the county board either!! The lack of a commercial manager is probably about control and the executive don't want to give up any power (even if it would in reality make their lives easier!!) as it would weaken their own little patch and may hurt aspirations of officers on gaining and or keeping their influence!!
They did announce around the time of the Rochford firing debacle broke taht they would be seeking to appoint a commercial manager but there hasn't been any news since and I guess they are going to try and long finger that appointment for as long as possible!!
The New York fundraiser is being organised by a prominent New Yooker who is the son of a Mayowoman which is welcome compared to the poor attempts by this county board at fundraising from the last trip ( I thin they raised $6,000).
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 13, 2019, 02:52:01 PM
Quote from: weareros on February 13, 2019, 01:34:40 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 13, 2019, 12:19:18 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.

Whilst we're on about Mayo I read the other day that there charging $25000 for a table of 10 at a fundraiser in the states!! If they can sell all those tables for that amount then you'd have to take your hat off to them. I can't understand their county board though, they've a huge diaspora which is probably bigger than anyone elses that they could take more advantage off. Their lack of a commercial manager is baffling, they should have been taking advantage of this team since 2012.

Was there some brouhaha with the Mayo county board trying to get the team attend a function right before the championship match in NY, and the team rightly declined. Or was that us the Rossies. I can never remember which county board annoys their supporters the most.

No that was our crowd weareros , a shabby organised event where the county board wanted the team to turn up at a bar owned by an ex-Mayo player on the night before the game and mingle around with well oiled supporters who had to pay a high cover charge for entry. Horan said get stuffed as he had a game to play the next day. The bar owner still packed the place out and the county board had a big biscuit tin at the door which only netted $6,000 out of all the money paid into said biscuit tin!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 13, 2019, 03:24:25 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 13, 2019, 12:19:18 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.
What was the tweet?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 03:36:06 PM
You might have a large diaspora abroad but most of them want to contribute nothing
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on February 13, 2019, 03:41:58 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 13, 2019, 03:24:25 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 13, 2019, 12:19:18 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.
What was the tweet?

He has a hard on for him (no messing).
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on February 13, 2019, 03:43:34 PM
Quote from: northsideboy on February 13, 2019, 12:12:22 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 09:25:05 AM
Quote from: northsideboy on February 13, 2019, 09:23:24 AM
Quote from: Soju on February 13, 2019, 03:05:17 AM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
There is plenty that could be said about that writer. Interesting isn't the term that I would use though.
attack the writer, classic deflection
why not debate the issues?
When a writer is so embittered as he is, he best left ignored

Wolves do not concern themselves with the opinion  of sheep.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 13, 2019, 03:51:37 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 13, 2019, 03:41:58 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 13, 2019, 03:24:25 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 13, 2019, 12:19:18 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.
What was the tweet?

He has a hard on for him (no messing).

Who has a hard on for who?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rosnarun on February 13, 2019, 04:00:17 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on February 13, 2019, 02:52:01 PM
Quote from: weareros on February 13, 2019, 01:34:40 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 13, 2019, 12:19:18 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.

Whilst we're on about Mayo I read the other day that there charging $25000 for a table of 10 at a fundraiser in the states!! If they can sell all those tables for that amount then you'd have to take your hat off to them. I can't understand their county board though, they've a huge diaspora which is probably bigger than anyone elses that they could take more advantage off. Their lack of a commercial manager is baffling, they should have been taking advantage of this team since 2012.

Was there some brouhaha with the Mayo county board trying to get the team attend a function right before the championship match in NY, and the team rightly declined. Or was that us the Rossies. I can never remember which county board annoys their supporters the most.

No that was our crowd weareros , a shabby organised event where the county board wanted the team to turn up at a bar owned by an ex-Mayo player on the night before the game and mingle around with well oiled supporters who had to pay a high cover charge for entry. Horan said get stuffed as he had a game to play the next day. The bar owner still packed the place out and the county board had a big biscuit tin at the door which only netted $6,000 out of all the money paid into said biscuit tin!!
I heard a private whip round for the players made a lot more than that delivered in to them in a dunes store bag. the spirit is will but there too much resentment towards the county board for them to do it them selves
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 13, 2019, 05:25:32 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 13, 2019, 03:24:25 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 13, 2019, 12:19:18 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.
What was the tweet?

Something like he wants to interview him more than anybody else.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 13, 2019, 07:44:32 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 13, 2019, 11:38:33 AM
Was there much discussion of the schemozzle on RTÉ on Saturday night? It was passed over completely on Sunday evening by the Dolan & Brolly. Tbh, I've no problem with that as I don't think there was a lot in it but hopefully they'll be consistent when it's two other counties.....
Location,
it wasn't in Omagh.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 13, 2019, 07:51:49 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 11:14:09 AM
The biggest issue in Dublin  is not enough clubs

look at a county that has had relative success at underage for their size without a huge development money spend

eg Roscommon.
they reached something like 8 U21 finals in Connacht in a row and reached two All Ireland U21 finals (met the Dublin juggernaut on both occasions).
most of the Roscommon players on those teams are no longer playing county football and in fact a lot of them are no longer playing club football!
Why? they haven't got the opportunity to study/work/live near home and travelling long distances for games and training isn't feasible.

Roscommon have had a huge turnover of players in the last 5 years alone, as most young players cannot give the commitment needed.
The county is hugely economically disadvantaged as they cannot pull in huge team or individual sponsorships to help with team costs.

and that is a team that reached the last 8 last summer and is Division 1. if they are in that boat, how are the counties outside the top 10 teams meant to compete?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 08:25:21 PM
Quote from: TheMaster on February 13, 2019, 07:51:49 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 11:14:09 AM
The biggest issue in Dublin  is not enough clubs

look at a county that has had relative success at underage for their size without a huge development money spend

eg Roscommon.
they reached something like 8 U21 finals in Connacht in a row and reached two All Ireland U21 finals (met the Dublin juggernaut on both occasions).
most of the Roscommon players on those teams are no longer playing county football and in fact a lot of them are no longer playing club football!
Why? they haven't got the opportunity to study/work/live near home and travelling long distances for games and training isn't feasible.

Roscommon have had a huge turnover of players in the last 5 years alone, as most young players cannot give the commitment needed.
The county is hugely economically disadvantaged as they cannot pull in huge team or individual sponsorships to help with team costs.

and that is a team that reached the last 8 last summer and is Division 1. if they are in that boat, how are the counties outside the top 10 teams meant to compete?
What's that got to do with clubs in Dublin?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: priceyreilly on February 13, 2019, 11:19:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 13, 2019, 12:18:57 PM
Quote from: northsideboy on February 13, 2019, 12:12:22 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 09:25:05 AM
Quote from: northsideboy on February 13, 2019, 09:23:24 AM
Quote from: Soju on February 13, 2019, 03:05:17 AM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
There is plenty that could be said about that writer. Interesting isn't the term that I would use though.
attack the writer, classic deflection
why not debate the issues?
When a writer is so embittered as he is, he best left ignored

When i seen "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche" it shows he definitely reads GAABOARD. ;)

A great concise piece. There are a growing amount of us bitters. And for good reason.

He basically stole all of DONT MATTERS material and made a career out of it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 14, 2019, 03:38:32 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 13, 2019, 05:25:32 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 13, 2019, 03:24:25 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 13, 2019, 12:19:18 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.
What was the tweet?

Something like he wants to interview him more than anybody else.

In one way but he was certainly alluding to something, he always does. Look at some of the replies to his tweet that he 'liked' and convinced of that given he's deleted it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rosnarun on February 14, 2019, 03:56:08 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 22, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 22, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.
why do you think the Mayo support has held up as well as it has if we idnt appreciate the journey . don't pay any attention to the moanbags on here from mayo some have ben predicting the end of the world since  horan came last time if not before.
some of mayo best matches have been ones they  ended up losing im thinking of Kerry in limerick  in particular and they lost  no glory or honour  and won a lot of fans in the process.
I would rather mayo lose with their dignity intact rather than go down the route of galway and try and bore every one to death despite possibly having the best set of forwards in the county
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 14, 2019, 04:09:28 PM
Galway had to go down the "bore" route as the other style of play had got them nowhere for years and they had become a established Div 2 team that couldn't win Connacht.   Kerry and Dublin have the best set of forwards in country and that includes subs forwards to bring on. Are Galway best forwards Burke,Walsh,Comer really better than Mayo's best the O'Connor brothers,Moran?

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: joemamas on February 14, 2019, 04:31:03 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 14, 2019, 04:09:28 PM
Galway had to go down the "bore" route as the other style of play had got them nowhere for years and they had become a established Div 2 team that couldn't win Connacht.   Kerry and Dublin have the best set of forwards in country and that includes subs forwards to bring on.
Are Galway best forwards Burke,Walsh,Comer and(Daly) really better than Mayo's best the O'Connor brothers (btw, one plays midfield),Moran?
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Unfortunately yes is the answer
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 14, 2019, 04:42:21 PM
Quote from: joemamas on February 14, 2019, 04:31:03 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 14, 2019, 04:09:28 PM
Galway had to go down the "bore" route as the other style of play had got them nowhere for years and they had become a established Div 2 team that couldn't win Connacht.   Kerry and Dublin have the best set of forwards in country and that includes subs forwards to bring on.
Are Galway best forwards Burke,Walsh,Comer and(Daly) really better than Mayo's best the O'Connor brothers (btw, one plays midfield),Moran?
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Unfortunately yes is the answer

Daly due to injury hasn't become a established Galway senior forward yet. Diarmuid O'Connor is only given a trial run in midfield at the moment, Mayo's best forwards in the last few years was those three players in the terms of scoring and creating.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 14, 2019, 05:01:22 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 14, 2019, 04:09:28 PM
Galway had to go down the "bore" route as the other style of play had got them nowhere for years and they had become a established Div 2 team that couldn't win Connacht.   Kerry and Dublin have the best set of forwards in country and that includes subs forwards to bring on. Are Galway best forwards Burke,Walsh,Comer really better than Mayo's best the O'Connor brothers,Moran?

We have a far better overall standard of player now that we had back them IMO when we were losing to Antrim and the likes. Granted it doesn't seem like that at times because Kevin Walsh's style of football often comes down to winning ugly so even when you win you don't look great. I 100% think the players are there to win playing more expansively but are we going to see that under the current management? I have my doubts. He seems wedded to his system for good or bad and in fairness to him he has really steadied the ship as Barry Cullinane said on Second Captains this week, a few years back it seemed Galway football was headed the same way as Cork.

It might take somebody else to take them further though.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 14, 2019, 05:16:22 PM
Quote from: joemamas on February 14, 2019, 04:31:03 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 14, 2019, 04:09:28 PM
Galway had to go down the "bore" route as the other style of play had got them nowhere for years and they had become a established Div 2 team that couldn't win Connacht.   Kerry and Dublin have the best set of forwards in country and that includes subs forwards to bring on.
Are Galway best forwards Burke,Walsh,Comer and(Daly) really better than Mayo's best the O'Connor brothers (btw, one plays midfield),Moran?
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Unfortunately yes is the answer

Someone from Mayo told me recently that Mayo haven't been producing decent forwards for a good while 
I was watching the 99 Connacht Final the other day and even then the forwards were missing the bit of je ne sais quoi

Whereas we always had fellas  like Shane Walsh,  P Joyce, M Meehan , Ja, Donnellan , Val Daly, Stephen Joyce going back 30 years
I wonder why there is such a difference 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 14, 2019, 05:26:22 PM
I heard a rumour that Galway might be moving the Ros game to Tuam.
Any truth or just wishful thinking by one of our crew???
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: joemamas on February 14, 2019, 05:44:04 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 14, 2019, 05:16:22 PM
Quote from: joemamas on February 14, 2019, 04:31:03 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 14, 2019, 04:09:28 PM
Galway had to go down the "bore" route as the other style of play had got them nowhere for years and they had become a established Div 2 team that couldn't win Connacht.   Kerry and Dublin have the best set of forwards in country and that includes subs forwards to bring on.
Are Galway best forwards Burke,Walsh,Comer and(Daly) really better than Mayo's best the O'Connor brothers (btw, one plays midfield),Moran?
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Unfortunately yes is the answer

Someone from Mayo told me recently that Mayo haven't been producing decent forwards for a good while 
I was watching the 99 Connacht Final the other day and even then the forwards were missing the bit of je ne sais quoi

Whereas we always had fellas  like Shane Walsh,  P Joyce, M Meehan , Ja, Donnellan , Val Daly, Stephen Joyce going back 30 years
I wonder why there is such a difference

Shit coaching/skill developement
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 14, 2019, 06:17:39 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on February 14, 2019, 03:56:08 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 22, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 22, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.
why do you think the Mayo support has held up as well as it has if we idnt appreciate the journey . don't pay any attention to the moanbags on here from mayo some have ben predicting the end of the world since  horan came last time if not before.
some of mayo best matches have been ones they  ended up losing im thinking of Kerry in limerick  in particular and they lost  no glory or honour  and won a lot of fans in the process.
I would rather mayo lose with their dignity intact rather than go down the route of galway and try and bore every one to death despite possibly having the best set of forwards in the county
Not disputing we aren't the most exciting to watch at times but don't tell me you would give a flying f**k if Mayo won the AI playing similarly.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on February 14, 2019, 07:56:22 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 14, 2019, 05:01:22 PM

It might take somebody else to take them further though.

I think you're right there. There's a ceiling to Walsh's way of playing
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 14, 2019, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: galwayman on February 14, 2019, 06:17:39 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on February 14, 2019, 03:56:08 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 22, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 22, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.
why do you think the Mayo support has held up as well as it has if we idnt appreciate the journey . don't pay any attention to the moanbags on here from mayo some have ben predicting the end of the world since  horan came last time if not before.
some of mayo best matches have been ones they  ended up losing im thinking of Kerry in limerick  in particular and they lost  no glory or honour  and won a lot of fans in the process.
I would rather mayo lose with their dignity intact rather than go down the route of galway and try and bore every one to death despite possibly having the best set of forwards in the county
Not disputing we aren't the most exciting to watch at times but don't tell me you would give a flying f**k if Mayo won the AI playing similarly.

Galway went the Fancy Dan way for the guts of 15 years and had some really embarrassing years.  Many awful results went under the radar because they happened in obscure grounds in the backdoor.

It may be muck to watch, but Galway have got more big game experience in the last 3 years than they got in the 10 years before that. I suppose the issue is when do you come out of this shell?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 15, 2019, 01:59:12 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 14, 2019, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: galwayman on February 14, 2019, 06:17:39 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on February 14, 2019, 03:56:08 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 22, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 22, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.
why do you think the Mayo support has held up as well as it has if we idnt appreciate the journey . don't pay any attention to the moanbags on here from mayo some have ben predicting the end of the world since  horan came last time if not before.
some of mayo best matches have been ones they  ended up losing im thinking of Kerry in limerick  in particular and they lost  no glory or honour  and won a lot of fans in the process.
I would rather mayo lose with their dignity intact rather than go down the route of galway and try and bore every one to death despite possibly having the best set of forwards in the county
Not disputing we aren't the most exciting to watch at times but don't tell me you would give a flying f**k if Mayo won the AI playing similarly.

Galway went the Fancy Dan way for the guts of 15 years and had some really embarrassing years.  Many awful results went under the radar because they happened in obscure grounds in the backdoor.

It may be muck to watch, but Galway have got more big game experience in the last 3 years than they got in the 10 years before that. I suppose the issue is when do you come out of this shell?

Ní uasal agus íseal ach thuas seal agus thíos seal

We didn't have the players a lot of the time. Meath and Down
would be in that situation now
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mouview on February 15, 2019, 12:38:35 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 14, 2019, 05:26:22 PM
I heard a rumour that Galway might be moving the Ros game to Tuam.
Any truth or just wishful thinking by one of our crew???

I'd also heard a rumour that the venues for the Kerry and Ros games were going to be swapped around, as the dressing rooms mightn't be ready for the Kerry match. There should have been an announcement by now though to allow Kerry travelling fans the chance to make/change accommodation arrangements. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 15, 2019, 02:05:45 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 14, 2019, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: galwayman on February 14, 2019, 06:17:39 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on February 14, 2019, 03:56:08 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 22, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 22, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.
why do you think the Mayo support has held up as well as it has if we idnt appreciate the journey . don't pay any attention to the moanbags on here from mayo some have ben predicting the end of the world since  horan came last time if not before.
some of mayo best matches have been ones they  ended up losing im thinking of Kerry in limerick  in particular and they lost  no glory or honour  and won a lot of fans in the process.
I would rather mayo lose with their dignity intact rather than go down the route of galway and try and bore every one to death despite possibly having the best set of forwards in the county
Not disputing we aren't the most exciting to watch at times but don't tell me you would give a flying f**k if Mayo won the AI playing similarly.

Galway went the Fancy Dan way for the guts of 15 years and had some really embarrassing years.  Many awful results went under the radar because they happened in obscure grounds in the backdoor.

It may be muck to watch, but Galway have got more big game experience in the last 3 years than they got in the 10 years before that. I suppose the issue is when do you come out of this shell?

I think its highly unlikely Galway change from last year, Kevin Walsh will be confident of beating everyone apart from Dublin playing this way. Galway did apply more pressure to Cluxton's kickout in the first half of the semi last year then they had done in the previous matches but Galway were out on their feet in the 2nd half.

We'll see what happens throughout the summer but I'm very confident that the panel is a lot stronger than last year, whether thats enough to go further I haven't a clue.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 15, 2019, 03:20:31 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 15, 2019, 02:05:45 PM

I think its highly unlikely Galway change from last year, Kevin Walsh will be confident of beating everyone apart from Dublin playing this way. Galway did apply more pressure to Cluxton's kickout in the first half of the semi last year then they had done in the previous matches but Galway were out on their feet in the 2nd half.

We'll see what happens throughout the summer but I'm very confident that the panel is a lot stronger than last year, whether thats enough to go further I haven't a clue.

Is the only correct answer to the questions raised about teams and how they are going to fare in 2019. The amount of overreaction to the early league results (both good and bad) is crazy, it's mid February.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 15, 2019, 09:24:16 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 14, 2019, 07:56:22 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 14, 2019, 05:01:22 PM

It might take somebody else to take them further though.

I think you're right there. There's a ceiling to Walsh's way of playing

He has given them a high floor to build off for whoever follows him in the job which didn't exist when he took over!
It is a fair achievement when you look at what happened to the likes of Cork and Meath when they let things drift!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 15, 2019, 11:24:31 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on February 14, 2019, 03:56:08 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 22, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 10:51:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on January 22, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.
why do you think the Mayo support has held up as well as it has if we idnt appreciate the journey . don't pay any attention to the moanbags on here from mayo some have ben predicting the end of the world since  horan came last time if not before.
some of mayo best matches have been ones they  ended up losing im thinking of Kerry in limerick  in particular and they lost  no glory or honour  and won a lot of fans in the process.
I would rather mayo lose with their dignity intact rather than go down the route of galway and try and bore every one to death despite possibly having the best set of forwards in the county
Bang on Ross, stuff the begrudgers!
Mayo have shag all money to spend on anything bar travelling expenses. So they spent over €580,000 one year that's listed under travelling expenses. (Was it last year?)
But that'snot the full story- not by a long shot.
Sometimes they hold collective sessions come championship in Mayo. (Bekan?) At other times, they train in Dublin and that means renting a pitch and paying hotel costs for those travelling up. And to cap it all, they have also rented a pitch somewhere in the midlands. Now, I am certain that only applies to the senior panel and is one of the main reasons why Mayo can't be arsed with the league. No helicopters on call for our hardy bucks.  ;D;D
Can all this be true?
Well, that's what I read in my copy of the Indo on Wednesday anyway.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 16, 2019, 09:44:24 AM
The Dubs will never understand the logistics in getting U20 players home from college to train and senior panellists home who go to college and work in Dublin

and the costs involved.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 16, 2019, 11:08:18 AM
Not to mention the odd lad in Carlow or Dundalk or Limerick.....
They don't need to understand fundraising either with their AIG, "official partners" " official cars" etc etc
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on February 16, 2019, 08:08:43 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 16, 2019, 09:44:24 AM
The Dubs will never understand the logistics in getting U20 players home from college to train and senior panellists home who go to college and work in Dublin

and the costs involved.

This thread started out ostensibly as the place at which the 2019 NFL Division 1 might be discussed - and with this being the most open Div. 1 for a number of years you'd think there'd be plenty to discuss. But surprise, surprise like so many threads on this board begrudgery takes over.

Remember lads Dublin are sitting in sixth position in Division 1. Surely that alone should encourage more positive discussion and less of the "poor us" whinging.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 16, 2019, 08:21:20 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on February 16, 2019, 08:08:43 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 16, 2019, 09:44:24 AM
The Dubs will never understand the logistics in getting U20 players home from college to train and senior panellists home who go to college and work in Dublin

and the costs involved.

This thread started out ostensibly as the place at which the 2019 NFL Division 1 might be discussed - and with this being the most open Div. 1 for a number of years you'd think there'd be plenty to discuss. But surprise, surprise like so many threads on this board begrudgery takes over.

Remember lads Dublin are sitting in sixth position in Division 1. Surely that alone should encourage more positive discussion and less of the "poor us" whinging.

You are saying that we should take some solace from a the fact that not one of the Dublin squad togged out for the O'Byrne Cup. And that they have half arsed their way in the League so far. It's like the lesser Clubs in England getting excited about the Man Utd, Liverpools, Man City and Spurs putting out half arsed teams in the League Cup and FA Cup and calling it a giant killing when they fall!

You have only two more away games left until the end of the season.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 16, 2019, 09:24:54 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on February 16, 2019, 08:08:43 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 16, 2019, 09:44:24 AM
The Dubs will never understand the logistics in getting U20 players home from college to train and senior panellists home who go to college and work in Dublin

and the costs involved.

This thread started out ostensibly as the place at which the 2019 NFL Division 1 might be discussed - and with this being the most open Div. 1 for a number of years you'd think there'd be plenty to discuss. But surprise, surprise like so many threads on this board begrudgery takes over.

Remember lads Dublin are sitting in sixth position in Division 1. Surely that alone should encourage more positive discussion and less of the "poor us" whinging.
I agree with you - on this one at any rate. I generally don't go in for moaning either. I don't blame the Dubs for being so far in front of every other team in the and. You will recall that I once said turkeys can't be expected to vote for Christmas or something along those lines.
If dudes from other counties object, the people to get onto are their own county boards and find out why they are prepared to be pushed aside without a whimper.
There are a good few Dublin heads who need a reality check also. Some keep on asking the same f***ing questions over and over.
Take yer man Jell O Biafra for example. I mentioned the figures involved if Dublin was to be split in four- along modern county lines. So he comes back with something like where was my concern for players who were denied  chance to play at intercounty level when Dublin wasn't winning all around them?
What the  feck has that got to do with what I wrote?
I didn't express my opinion, neither good nor bad. Anyone could use the same basic arithmetic and would have to come to the same conclusion as I did.
I'm not mad or anything like that but I am confused. It seems a good few Dublin heads didn't learn English as their first language and that for once is my personal opinion.
They don't have a total monopoly on stupidity on here either but that's irrelevant also. ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on February 16, 2019, 10:33:58 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 16, 2019, 08:21:20 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on February 16, 2019, 08:08:43 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 16, 2019, 09:44:24 AM
The Dubs will never understand the logistics in getting U20 players home from college to train and senior panellists home who go to college and work in Dublin

and the costs involved.

This thread started out ostensibly as the place at which the 2019 NFL Division 1 might be discussed - and with this being the most open Div. 1 for a number of years you'd think there'd be plenty to discuss. But surprise, surprise like so many threads on this board begrudgery takes over.

Remember lads Dublin are sitting in sixth position in Division 1. Surely that alone should encourage more positive discussion and less of the "poor us" whinging.

You are saying that we should take some solace from a the fact that not one of the Dublin squad togged out for the O'Byrne Cup. And that they have half arsed their way in the League so far. It's like the lesser Clubs in England getting excited about the Man Utd, Liverpools, Man City and Spurs putting out half arsed teams in the League Cup and FA Cup and calling it a giant killing when they fall!

You have only two more away games left until the end of the season.

I'd like to be as optimistic about Dublin's prospects for the rest of this year as you seem to be yourself.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 16, 2019, 11:06:18 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on February 16, 2019, 10:33:58 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 16, 2019, 08:21:20 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on February 16, 2019, 08:08:43 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 16, 2019, 09:44:24 AM
The Dubs will never understand the logistics in getting U20 players home from college to train and senior panellists home who go to college and work in Dublin

and the costs involved.

This thread started out ostensibly as the place at which the 2019 NFL Division 1 might be discussed - and with this being the most open Div. 1 for a number of years you'd think there'd be plenty to discuss. But surprise, surprise like so many threads on this board begrudgery takes over.

Remember lads Dublin are sitting in sixth position in Division 1. Surely that alone should encourage more positive discussion and less of the "poor us" whinging.

You are saying that we should take some solace from a the fact that not one of the Dublin squad togged out for the O'Byrne Cup. And that they have half arsed their way in the League so far. It's like the lesser Clubs in England getting excited about the Man Utd, Liverpools, Man City and Spurs putting out half arsed teams in the League Cup and FA Cup and calling it a giant killing when they fall!

You have only two more away games left until the end of the season.

I'd like to be as optimistic about Dublin's prospects for the rest of this year as you seem to be yourself.

Well the Bookies are optimistic - they have you at 1/2!

Next favourite is Kerry at 11/2!

Dads Army are at 11/1!

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 17, 2019, 09:05:58 PM
The double is on,
div 3A
Tyrone 2-13 Monaghan 4-12.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 18, 2019, 10:01:57 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 16, 2019, 11:06:18 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on February 16, 2019, 10:33:58 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 16, 2019, 08:21:20 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on February 16, 2019, 08:08:43 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 16, 2019, 09:44:24 AM
The Dubs will never understand the logistics in getting U20 players home from college to train and senior panellists home who go to college and work in Dublin

and the costs involved.

This thread started out ostensibly as the place at which the 2019 NFL Division 1 might be discussed - and with this being the most open Div. 1 for a number of years you'd think there'd be plenty to discuss. But surprise, surprise like so many threads on this board begrudgery takes over.

Remember lads Dublin are sitting in sixth position in Division 1. Surely that alone should encourage more positive discussion and less of the "poor us" whinging.

You are saying that we should take some solace from a the fact that not one of the Dublin squad togged out for the O'Byrne Cup. And that they have half arsed their way in the League so far. It's like the lesser Clubs in England getting excited about the Man Utd, Liverpools, Man City and Spurs putting out half arsed teams in the League Cup and FA Cup and calling it a giant killing when they fall!

You have only two more away games left until the end of the season.

I'd like to be as optimistic about Dublin's prospects for the rest of this year as you seem to be yourself.

Well the Bookies are optimistic - they have you at 1/2!

Next favourite is Kerry at 11/2!

Dads Army are at 11/1!

The Dubs should be 50/1 really with only 2 points after 3 games
Fento missed a free at the end so they have been putting in a huge effort, bud. 
Mayo should be 50/1 on
Bleedin culchies
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 18, 2019, 04:27:15 PM
Damien Comer is out for the entirety of the league for a Galway due to surgery on his ankle.
That is in the months recovery timeframe you'd imagine, will he be even right for the start of the championship? Not an injury you'd want to be rushing back from.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 18, 2019, 04:42:37 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 18, 2019, 04:27:15 PM
Damien Comer is out for the entirety of the league for a Galway due to surgery on his ankle.
That is in the months recovery timeframe you'd imagine, will he be even right for the start of the championship? Not an injury you'd want to be rushing back from.

Corofin are some team and the players missing from the county side are significant.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 18, 2019, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 18, 2019, 04:27:15 PM
Damien Comer is out for the entirety of the league for a Galway due to surgery on his ankle.
That is in the months recovery timeframe you'd imagine, will he be even right for the start of the championship? Not an injury you'd want to be rushing back from.
Unlikely to be available for the London game I would think - has time on his side if the Op goes well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 18, 2019, 07:49:35 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 18, 2019, 04:27:15 PM
Damien Comer is out for the entirety of the league for a Galway due to surgery on his ankle.
That is in the months recovery timeframe you'd imagine, will he be even right for the start of the championship? Not an injury you'd want to be rushing back from.

I imagine he'll be fit alright for championship but he won't have any football done whatsoever. Whether that means he'll be nice and fresh or badly lacking match sharpness who knows?

Seems like they thought his injury would heal without surgery at first but now they have to go back and get it done.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 19, 2019, 07:35:23 AM
My Mayo v Dublin  prediction is a narrow Dublin win.

Oh and by the way...let's stick to predicting based on football please. Yes FtB, looking firmly at you.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 19, 2019, 09:46:34 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 19, 2019, 07:35:23 AM
My Mayo v Dublin  prediction is a narrow Dublin win.

Oh and by the way...let's stick to predicting based on football please. Yes FtB, looking firmly at you.
If Mayo win the Dubs are definitely out of contention for the League final
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 19, 2019, 10:32:43 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 18, 2019, 07:49:35 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 18, 2019, 04:27:15 PM
Damien Comer is out for the entirety of the league for a Galway due to surgery on his ankle.
That is in the months recovery timeframe you'd imagine, will he be even right for the start of the championship? Not an injury you'd want to be rushing back from.

I imagine he'll be fit alright for championship but he won't have any football done whatsoever. Whether that means he'll be nice and fresh or badly lacking match sharpness who knows?

Seems like they thought his injury would heal without surgery at first but now they have to go back and get it done.

There's 4 months to the Connacht final, think its unlikely we see the best of Comer by the middle of June if at all this summer.

He's admitted himself he suffered a lot with injuries and had the tendency to do too much work in the gym to compensate and with the type of injury he's reported to have its going to be difficult to get back to where he was last summer.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 19, 2019, 10:43:04 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 19, 2019, 07:35:23 AM
My Mayo v Dublin  prediction is a narrow Dublin win.

Oh and by the way...let's stick to predicting based on football please. Yes FtB, looking firmly at you.

I am thinking the same, Mayo put it up to them then the superior Duns bench put us away in the last 10 or 15 mins so the Dubs by 4 or 5.
Although we could struggle in midfield so maybe the Dubs open up a bit more in the second half and the margin could be greater but I still think we will keep it more interesting than recent years!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on February 19, 2019, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 19, 2019, 07:35:23 AM
My Mayo v Dublin  prediction is a narrow Dublin win.

Oh and by the way...let's stick to predicting based on football please. Yes FtB, looking firmly at you.

On the face of it Mayo have to be favourites. They've made a blistering start to the league while Dublin have been slow off the blocks. I think James Horan would like to end the Dubs' narrow dominance over Mayo in Croker and I suspect that he will send out a team to do that. On the other hand Jim Gavin will probably want to stem the flow of losses and will certainly want to maintain the Dubs' stranglehold over Mayo in Croker.

A lot of uncertainty about how this game will pan out, as there always is at this time of the year.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on February 19, 2019, 01:51:44 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on February 19, 2019, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 19, 2019, 07:35:23 AM
My Mayo v Dublin  prediction is a narrow Dublin win.

Oh and by the way...let's stick to predicting based on football please. Yes FtB, looking firmly at you.

On the face of it Mayo have to be favourites. They've made a blistering start to the league while Dublin have been slow off the blocks. I think James Horan would like to end the Dubs' narrow dominance over Mayo in Croker and I suspect that he will send out a team to do that. On the other hand Jim Gavin will probably want to stem the flow of losses and will certainly want to maintain the Dubs' stranglehold over Mayo in Croker.

A lot of uncertainty about how this game will pan out, as there always is at this time of the year.

How many meaningful games have Dublin lost in Croke Park over the last few years? The league final against Kerry is the only one I can think of since 2014.

Dublin are rightly favourites for this game. Bookies are saying 3 points is the handicap.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 20, 2019, 04:41:25 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on February 19, 2019, 01:51:44 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on February 19, 2019, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 19, 2019, 07:35:23 AM
My Mayo v Dublin  prediction is a narrow Dublin win.

Oh and by the way...let's stick to predicting based on football please. Yes FtB, looking firmly at you.

On the face of it Mayo have to be favourites. They've made a blistering start to the league while Dublin have been slow off the blocks. I think James Horan would like to end the Dubs' narrow dominance over Mayo in Croker and I suspect that he will send out a team to do that. On the other hand Jim Gavin will probably want to stem the flow of losses and will certainly want to maintain the Dubs' stranglehold over Mayo in Croker.

A lot of uncertainty about how this game will pan out, as there always is at this time of the year.

How many meaningful games have Dublin lost in Croke Park over the last few years? The league final against Kerry is the only one I can think of since 2014.

Dublin are rightly favourites for this game. Bookies are saying 3 points is the handicap.
That's the only one I remember too, regardless of location!

Really looking forward to this. Especially what we do with O'Connor at midfield.
I think the Dubs will really go for it. Even though it's not going to count for a whole lot, it will give Mayo a little edge for the summer if they beat us. And Jim won't want that, I guess. I definitely don't want it!

Tactics will be fascinating, given they won't want to give away their full hand, but will want to win. Should be attacking policies from both sides.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 20, 2019, 10:37:16 PM

I expect Horan will see this as just another league game and keep looking at some new players. See what happens.
There is no pressure for points in this one because of good start and there is no concern about winning the league or anything.
I wouldn't rule out a Mayo win but it would be of no significance if we did - for what might happen later in the year that is. Losing would not be of any great significance either,
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on February 21, 2019, 02:03:46 AM
Agree with that.  Though given that a Mayo win  would eliminate Dublin from a league final, and give Mayo a clear shot at a national title, I wonder whether that would be motivation enough?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on February 21, 2019, 02:23:41 AM

Here's what you said, Lar:

How many Dublin club players drop out of the game before they would wish because of the lack of opportunity to advance to at least one higher level?
IMO, that's the real tragedy.

Here's what I said back:

All this concern for Dublin players who drop out because of sheer numbers is very touching.  Not sure how I managed to miss it all back when we weren't  winning.


Neither one of us mentioned the county game in regards to when players drop out.

You said 'tragedy', about Dublin players dropping out.  If that isn't expressing an opinion, then I give up.  Maybe English isn't your first language?



There's lots of good arguments to be had about Dublin's advantages, but this one--players losing out-- is just disingenuous.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 21, 2019, 07:12:55 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on February 21, 2019, 02:23:41 AM

Here's what you said, Lar:

How many Dublin club players drop out of the game before they would wish because of the lack of opportunity to advance to at least one higher level?
IMO, that's the real tragedy.

Here's what I said back:

All this concern for Dublin players who drop out because of sheer numbers is very touching.  Not sure how I managed to miss it all back when we weren't  winning.


Neither one of us mentioned the county game in regards to when players drop out.

You said 'tragedy', about Dublin players dropping out.  If that isn't expressing an opinion, then I give up.  Maybe English isn't your first language?



There's lots of good arguments to be had about Dublin's advantages, but this one--players losing out-- is just disingenuous.

Ah here, I did say to discuss the match based on footballing ability. ;) I expect Mayo to name their starting 15 tonight sometime. We'll see exactly what's on Horan's mind then. I'd be happy enough to see what Horan described in his first coming as consistently competitive. If we can compete on Saturday night, then that'll do me.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 21, 2019, 02:59:07 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on February 21, 2019, 02:23:41 AM

Here's what you said, Lar:

How many Dublin club players drop out of the game before they would wish because of the lack of opportunity to advance to at least one higher level?
IMO, that's the real tragedy.

Here's what I said back:

All this concern for Dublin players who drop out because of sheer numbers is very touching.  Not sure how I managed to miss it all back when we weren't  winning.


Neither one of us mentioned the county game in regards to when players drop out.

You said 'tragedy', about Dublin players dropping out.  If that isn't expressing an opinion, then I give up.  Maybe English isn't your first language?



There's lots of good arguments to be had about Dublin's advantages, but this one--players losing out-- is just disingenuous.
You are dead right; I did express a fairly definite opinion but that was in the post you replied to and your response missed my points completely. When you said "Not sure how I managed to miss it all back when we weren't  winning," I gave up.
I thought I had gone to sufficient lengths to say what would happen if Dublin was split into its constituent counties and the benefits in player involvement that would mean to the GAA. I was careful to avoid saying I was sorry for anyone- either Dublin players or the rest of the country.
I thought I was using elementary maths and that there was no scope for error i n my conclusions. Of all culchies on this board, I have emphasised again and again that I have no time for moaning about Dublin's share of the development funding or any other advantages Dublin have, some real and some imagined, over all others.
The place to do this is at county board level. I also believe that it is unrealistic to expect Dublin to cede anything- turkeys don't vote for Christmas and all that....
I don't have concern for DUblin players losing out and never said I had --I was just giving figureds and it's up to everyone else to draw their own conclusions.
However, on the personal front, concentrating on quality at the expense f quantity is the opposite of everything I believe in and this is definitely what club football in Dublin is designed for.
I am coming from a background of decades of involvement with primary schools' football in Dublin and I have had first hand experience of what I am talking about. Talking about great things to come as GDO coaches go out to entice kids to get involved in GAA activities is like trying to teach yer granny to suck eggs. It's well intentioned but extremely naive. If teachers on the ground in every boys' school in Dublin couldn't manage to widen the playing base, then what's the odds that outsiders can succeed where the likes of me failed.
I mentioned before about the time my sixth class felt Gah was a pansy's game and they could bate the socks off any team they'd take on. A few played for the school team but most hadn't a clue about the game and cared even less either..
However with a few basic ground rules, they were ready to take on all comers.
In short, they plastered the other sixth class, then the school team and every other school in the parish that accepted the challenge. Then they wanted to have a go at the Isles u-12s and no bother to my gang, they knew sweet damn all about packed defences or playing sweepers or that sort of stuff.
They played for the sheer enjoyment and the fun of playing with their pals and every single one of the 30 in the class had some part to play, if you'll pardon the pun. They were fast running out of opposition as the end of the school year was coming up so I asked the manager of the Whitehall club to accept  a challenge. We knocked the smirk off his face without a bother!
They were playing with their pales and they knew and trusted their manager and they played for the sheer fun of it. Not a single one opted to play football with Isles or any other Gaelic club after they finished primary school and if I couldn't persuade anyone to stay at the game, I don't fancy the odds of any outsider doing better.There was a strong bond of friendship and trust between everyone and playing the game was played for the right reasons.
Now, when I say I see problems with the way the GDO system is organised, I am speaking from experience. Furthermore when I talk about Dublin losing its market share of the player and spectator market, I am not talking about bums on seats in Croker.
If you go by census returns, ( here I go again!) the population of Dublin increased by 21% over a 20 year period from 1996 to 2016. Has the numbers playing increased by the same amount? Has the numbers involved at club level increased by 21% either?
If the senior side wasn't grabbing the highlights now, there's be a lot less than there was 20 years ago.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 21, 2019, 07:44:21 PM
Six changes to the Mayo team published for Saturday night but will that team start as selected?

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis(C)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Ciaran Treacy - Ballina Stephenites
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: thejuice on February 21, 2019, 08:29:26 PM
A strong side for mayo. Definitely looking to get an elusive win against the Dubs and sink their league hopes in the process. Still give Dublin the edge as they're getting back to full fitness but without Clinton and the injured lads they're vulnerable.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 21, 2019, 08:43:43 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 21, 2019, 07:44:21 PM
Six changes to the Mayo team published for Saturday night but will that team start as selected?

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis(C)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Ciaran Treacy - Ballina Stephenites
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole

Happy enough with that team. Should have a cut at the Dubs at least.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on February 21, 2019, 08:52:22 PM
Surprised Diarmuid and Kevin McLoughlin aren't there assuming they're fit? I would have kept Michael Plunkett at centre half back as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 21, 2019, 09:37:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 21, 2019, 07:44:21 PM
Six changes to the Mayo team published for Saturday night but will that team start as selected?

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis(C)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Ciaran Treacy - Ballina Stephenites
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole

Interesting team and I hope Caff can prove me wrong again as he did against Cavan as I thought he was finished at this level because of injuries.
I hope Hennelly can prove me wrong because I am always worried with him in the team! He just seems to have a fatal mistake in his locker every big game when the pressure is on and I think his kickouts are stylish looking but overrated!! I don't care that Clarkie's kickouts look like he hits them with a shovel, they tend to get to the man in Green and Red more often than not!
Will be watching how Ruane goes in the middle and I am really looking forward to how McDonagh, Reap and Treacy get on in the wide open spaces of Croker!!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on February 21, 2019, 11:02:31 PM
Decent enough team named but I think we will struggle in this one, the dubs have their holiday well out of their system by now and rarely lose at home. We have nothing to match Fenton/Howard in the middle even without cluxton to supply them. Hope I'm wrong but I can see us losing by 5-8 points
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 21, 2019, 11:03:06 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on February 21, 2019, 09:37:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 21, 2019, 07:44:21 PM
Six changes to the Mayo team published for Saturday night but will that team start as selected?

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis(C)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Ciaran Treacy - Ballina Stephenites
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole

Interesting team and I hope Caff can prove me wrong again as he did against Cavan as I thought he was finished at this level because of injuries.
I hope Hennelly can prove me wrong because I am always worried with him in the team! He just seems to have a fatal mistake in his locker every big game when the pressure is on and I think his kickouts are stylish looking but overrated!! I don't care that Clarkie's kickouts look like he hits them with a shovel, they tend to get to the man in Green and Red more often than not!
Will be watching how Ruane goes in the middle and I am really looking forward to how McDonagh, Reap and Treacy get on in the wide open spaces of Croker!!!

Yeah. Be interesting to see how this goes.

On the goalkeeping thing, I'd say Horan is trading off Hennelly's gaffs against maybe better control of games with kick-outs and the long range frees. He's probably also hoping that with experience Bob might not make any more clangers!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Never beat the deeler on February 21, 2019, 11:10:29 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on February 21, 2019, 08:52:22 PM
Surprised Diarmuid and Kevin McLoughlin aren't there assuming they're fit? I would have kept Michael Plunkett at centre half back as well.

Surely Horan will still have his customary 2-3 changes before throw-in
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 22, 2019, 12:03:58 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on February 21, 2019, 11:10:29 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on February 21, 2019, 08:52:22 PM
Surprised Diarmuid and Kevin McLoughlin aren't there assuming they're fit? I would have kept Michael Plunkett at centre half back as well.

Surely Horan will still have his customary 2-3 changes before throw-in

Ya Horan is well known for that at this stage and I'll be surprised if he starts 4 inexperienced players against Dublin in Croke Park.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 22, 2019, 12:13:47 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on February 21, 2019, 11:10:29 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on February 21, 2019, 08:52:22 PM
Surprised Diarmuid and Kevin McLoughlin aren't there assuming they're fit? I would have kept Michael Plunkett at centre half back as well.

Surely Horan will still have his customary 2-3 changes before throw-in
He probably will and I still don't see why he should persist with this as there are few changes he could make anyway. On the positive side, he seems to be happy with the progress of the four relative newcomers.
All of them appear to be made of the right stuff too and, for the first time in years, Mayo appear to have some serious new talent emerging. Hope they keep up the good work!
Interesting also that none of them are backs.  Good forwards and hen's teeth are about equal in number when scarcity is mentioned.  I'd expect the Dubs to win once again but it's  really hard to predict what Mayo are capable of.
The backs are the old reliables but age may be a problem here. The same applies to Donie at midfield. So we will be heavily dependent on the forward, some old and some new, very new.
Hope Bob can avoid his customary clanger. I tend to keep the cheeks of me arse clenched from start to finish whenever he plays.  ;D
Arra, we will just have to wait and see...
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 22, 2019, 12:24:50 AM
Quote from: moysider on February 21, 2019, 11:03:06 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on February 21, 2019, 09:37:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 21, 2019, 07:44:21 PM
Six changes to the Mayo team published for Saturday night but will that team start as selected?

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis(C)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Ciaran Treacy - Ballina Stephenites
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole

Interesting team and I hope Caff can prove me wrong again as he did against Cavan as I thought he was finished at this level because of injuries.
I hope Hennelly can prove me wrong because I am always worried with him in the team! He just seems to have a fatal mistake in his locker every big game when the pressure is on and I think his kickouts are stylish looking but overrated!! I don't care that Clarkie's kickouts look like he hits them with a shovel, they tend to get to the man in Green and Red more often than not!
Will be watching how Ruane goes in the middle and I am really looking forward to how McDonagh, Reap and Treacy get on in the wide open spaces of Croker!!!

Yeah. Be interesting to see how this goes.

On the goalkeeping thing, I'd say Horan is trading off Hennelly's gaffs against maybe better control of games with kick-outs and the long range frees. He's probably also hoping that with experience Bob might not make any more clangers!

I understand the logic Moy but honestly  I think his kickouts are way overrated and so far in clutch situations he has crumbled a lot going back to minor!! I am thinking  back to Dublin 2013, Kerry 2014, Dublin replay 2015 & 2016!! All those days when the pressure was on his kickouts went south and I am not talking about one or two missed kickouts either!! Then he is soo vulnerable under the high ball too!!
The key for me is Clarkie hit a terrible kickout straight to Diarmuid  Connolly in 2016 the first day and bang a point the dubs go two ahead with 70 on the clock!! 3 mins later Connolly hits a wide and Clarkie threads the ball out on the 45 to a Mayoman with the Dubs pressed right up, pressure on All Ireland on the line and he finds his man which results in the equalising point!! Clarke misses pressure kickouts but he recovers Robbie unfortunately tightens up and regresses with pressure and teams all know that!! Robbies free are average enough and I wonder what his hit rate is? If I had to guess I would say it is 40%!! If Clarkie is done cause Horan can't  live with his kickouts then I would have rather seen O'Malley or Flanagan get a shot!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 22, 2019, 12:54:19 AM
Quote from: Crete Boom on February 22, 2019, 12:24:50 AM
Quote from: moysider on February 21, 2019, 11:03:06 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on February 21, 2019, 09:37:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 21, 2019, 07:44:21 PM
Six changes to the Mayo team published for Saturday night but will that team start as selected?

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis(C)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Ciaran Treacy - Ballina Stephenites
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole

Interesting team and I hope Caff can prove me wrong again as he did against Cavan as I thought he was finished at this level because of injuries.
I hope Hennelly can prove me wrong because I am always worried with him in the team! He just seems to have a fatal mistake in his locker every big game when the pressure is on and I think his kickouts are stylish looking but overrated!! I don't care that Clarkie's kickouts look like he hits them with a shovel, they tend to get to the man in Green and Red more often than not!
Will be watching how Ruane goes in the middle and I am really looking forward to how McDonagh, Reap and Treacy get on in the wide open spaces of Croker!!!

Yeah. Be interesting to see how this goes.

On the goalkeeping thing, I'd say Horan is trading off Hennelly's gaffs against maybe better control of games with kick-outs and the long range frees. He's probably also hoping that with experience Bob might not make any more clangers!

I understand the logic Moy but honestly  I think his kickouts are way overrated and so far in clutch situations he has crumbled a lot going back to minor!! I am thinking  back to Dublin 2013, Kerry 2014, Dublin replay 2015 & 2016!! All those days when the pressure was on his kickouts went south and I am not talking about one or two missed kickouts either!! Then he is soo vulnerable under the high ball too!!
The key for me is Clarkie hit a terrible kickout straight to Diarmuid  Connolly in 2016 the first day and bang a point the dubs go two ahead with 70 on the clock!! 3 mins later Connolly hits a wide and Clarkie threads the ball out on the 45 to a Mayoman with the Dubs pressed right up, pressure on All Ireland on the line and he finds his man which results in the equalising point!! Clarke misses pressure kickouts but he recovers Robbie unfortunately tightens up and regresses with pressure and teams all know that!! Robbies free are average enough and I wonder what his hit rate is? If I had to guess I would say it is 40%!! If Clarkie is done cause Horan can't  live with his kickouts then I would have rather seen O'Malley or Flanagan get a shot!!

Or Schlingermann? Unless he's been signed up by Boca Junior or something!
Look Crete, you don't need to explain it to me at all. Horan is going down this road though and he has seen what we all have seen. He's calling it. Not sure I would call it that way, but he is the man.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on February 22, 2019, 10:30:28 AM
I am sure the Mayo men would love a win here. 13 attempts an no wins, a poor return.

No matter the result, its arse boxing, only thing that matters is the super 8s onwards.

Hopefully an entertaining attacking game, which it usually is.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on February 22, 2019, 10:41:07 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 22, 2019, 10:30:28 AM
I am sure the Mayo men would love a win here. 13 attempts an no wins, a poor return.

No matter the result, its arse boxing, only thing that matters is the super 8s onwards.

Hopefully an entertaining attacking game, which it usually is.

Maybe for Dublin and Kerry. The provincial championships mean a lot to other counties.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 22, 2019, 11:22:01 AM
In Connacht and Ulster.
Meanwhile sadly Kerry and Dublin sleepwalk through a series of Challenge games officially titled as Munster and Leinster Championships.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on February 22, 2019, 11:27:31 AM
Quote from: MayoBuck on February 22, 2019, 10:41:07 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 22, 2019, 10:30:28 AM
I am sure the Mayo men would love a win here. 13 attempts an no wins, a poor return.

No matter the result, its arse boxing, only thing that matters is the super 8s onwards.

Hopefully an entertaining attacking game, which it usually is.

Maybe for Dublin and Kerry. The provincial championships mean a lot to other counties.

That's what I meant, from a Dublin fan perspective anyway, the league is more important, enjoyable and competitive than Leinster.

If Mayo win, it only benefits Dublin later in the year, more sting in the tail.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rosnarun on February 22, 2019, 11:46:06 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 22, 2019, 11:22:01 AM
In Connacht and Ulster.
Meanwhile sadly Kerry and Dublin sleepwalk through a series of Challenge games officially titled as Munster and Leinster Championships.
there are a lot of counties in leinster who would love a Provinciall title at this stage
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 22, 2019, 11:52:53 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 22, 2019, 10:30:28 AM
I am sure the Mayo men would love a win here. 13 attempts an no wins, a poor return.

No matter the result, its arse boxing, only thing that matters is the super 8s onwards.

Hopefully an entertaining attacking game, which it usually is.

It probably goes to show how over rated this Mayo team are/were having had such a long losing streak.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 22, 2019, 01:36:28 PM
Massive game for Cavan on Sunday. If we are to have any chink of light to escape relegation we have to do what we have really struggled to do in the last number of years and beat Roscommon. Good news is Gerry Smith is likely to play some part, probably the best player on any of those U21 teams but who hasnt really had a consistent run at senior. Gearoid McKiernan and Caoimhin O Reilly back training too after injury. We've put in respectable enough performances for 30 mins in each of our 1st 3 matches, now its time to really go for it. I hope it is in them to do that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 22, 2019, 01:50:27 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 22, 2019, 01:36:28 PM
Massive game for Cavan on Sunday. If we are to have any chink of light to escape relegation we have to do what we have really struggled to do in the last number of years and beat Roscommon. Good news is Gerry Smith is likely to play some part, probably the best player on any of those U21 teams but who hasnt really had a consistent run at senior. Gearoid McKiernan and Caoimhin O Reilly back training too after injury. We've put in respectable enough performances for 30 mins in each of our 1st 3 matches, now its time to really go for it. I hope it is in them to do that.
And you have the full attention of the manager for this first time
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 22, 2019, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 22, 2019, 01:50:27 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 22, 2019, 01:36:28 PM
Massive game for Cavan on Sunday. If we are to have any chink of light to escape relegation we have to do what we have really struggled to do in the last number of years and beat Roscommon. Good news is Gerry Smith is likely to play some part, probably the best player on any of those U21 teams but who hasnt really had a consistent run at senior. Gearoid McKiernan and Caoimhin O Reilly back training too after injury. We've put in respectable enough performances for 30 mins in each of our 1st 3 matches, now its time to really go for it. I hope it is in them to do that.
And you have the full attention of the manager for this first time

Ah I wouldn't use that as an excuse to be honest.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 22, 2019, 02:48:53 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 22, 2019, 11:52:53 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 22, 2019, 10:30:28 AM
I am sure the Mayo men would love a win here. 13 attempts an no wins, a poor return.

No matter the result, its arse boxing, only thing that matters is the super 8s onwards.

Hopefully an entertaining attacking game, which it usually is.

It probably goes to show how over rated this Mayo team are/were having had such a long losing streak.


Horan v Dublin

Played 7 won 2 lost 4 and 1 draw

Last meeting 2014 in Croke Park was a draw.

Mayo with ten same starters tomorrow maybe more if Mcloughlin starts.

Robbie Hennelly; Tom Cunniffe, Ger Cafferkey, Brendan Harrison; Lee Keegan, Donal Vaughan , Colm Boyle; Aidan O'Shea, Jason Gibbons; Kevin McLoughlin , Keith Higgins, Jason Doherty; Andy Moran, Alan Freeman, Cillian O'Connor.

The likes of Hennelly,Cafferkey seem to be his first choices regardless of fan opinion?

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rosnarun on February 22, 2019, 04:10:38 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 22, 2019, 02:48:53 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 22, 2019, 11:52:53 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 22, 2019, 10:30:28 AM
I am sure the Mayo men would love a win here. 13 attempts an no wins, a poor return.

No matter the result, its arse boxing, only thing that matters is the super 8s onwards.

Hopefully an entertaining attacking game, which it usually is.

It probably goes to show how over rated this Mayo team are/were having had such a long losing streak.


Horan v Dublin

Played 7 won 2 lost 4 and 1 draw

Last meeting 2014 in Croke Park was a draw.

Mayo with ten same starters tomorrow maybe more if Mcloughlin starts.

Robbie Hennelly; Tom Cunniffe, Ger Cafferkey, Brendan Harrison; Lee Keegan, Donal Vaughan , Colm Boyle; Aidan O’Shea, Jason Gibbons; Kevin McLoughlin , Keith Higgins, Jason Doherty; Andy Moran, Alan Freeman, Cillian O’Connor.

The likes of Hennelly,Cafferkey seem to be his first choices regardless of fan opinion?


not sure they are 1st choice but they have put their names in the ring and are playing for their place as are boyle  Harrison and maybe any Moran esp as a starter when mclouglin and Cillian and parsons/seamie o sé ( allowing diarmaid go forward ) come back some will have to be left out .
shame if it weas just the new lads
like wise in the full back line Chris barret and Eoin o Donoghue will be gunning for places
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 22, 2019, 06:40:09 PM
Liking forward to Sunday's trip to Breifne.
Hoping we can keep up our good record of recent times v these bucks......but they must be due a win against us soon.
Hopefully not Sunday and that we'll almost secure another year in Div 1.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 22, 2019, 08:58:56 PM
Kerry team for the trip to Tuam.

Shane Ryan
Peter Crowley
Jack Sherwood
Shane Enright
Gavin Crowley
Paul Murphy
Tom O'Sullivan
Jack Barry
Mark Griffin
Diarmuid O'Connor
Sean O'Shea
Gavin O'Brien
Dara Moynihan
Tommy Walsh
Stephen O'Brien.

Subs: Brian Kelly, Jonathan Lyne, Michael Geaney, Tadhg Morley, Kevin McCarthy, Graham O'Sullivan, Conor Geaney, Tomas O Se, Jason Foley, Killian Spillane, Denis Daly.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 22, 2019, 09:39:07 PM
Galway team. Strong rumours going around that a few Corofin players will start so changes expected before throw in.

1 Ruairi Lavelle
2 Eoghan Kerin
3 Jonny Duane
4 David Wynne
5 Gary O'Donnell
6 Gareth Bradshaw
7 Johnny Heaney
8 Thomas Flynn
9 Ciaran Duggan
10 Shane Walsh
11 Peter Cooke
12 Sean Kelly
13 Padraig Cunningham
14 Cein D'Arcy
15 Antaine O'Laoi
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 22, 2019, 10:50:18 PM
There's been changes to every Galway starting 15 named in the league so far, whether the Corofin lads are available or not I expect that it'll be the same on Sunday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2019, 03:38:57 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 22, 2019, 10:50:18 PM
There's been changes to every Galway starting 15 named in the league so far, whether the Corofin lads are available or not I expect that it'll be the same on Sunday.

Bit of a joke really. No way that team takes the field I imagine.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 23, 2019, 12:11:02 PM
Any sign of a Dublin panel for us who aren't attending later on?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 23, 2019, 12:54:11 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 22, 2019, 10:50:18 PM
There's been changes to every Galway starting 15 named in the league so far, whether the Corofin lads are available or not I expect that it'll be the same on Sunday.
It depends on who is available I think.
Would have thought both Daly's will start though regardless unless they are carrying an injury.
That fullback line would give you nightmares 🙈
Duane didn't play fb the last day though despite wearing number 3.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: spuds on February 23, 2019, 01:03:31 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 22, 2019, 09:39:07 PM
Galway team. Strong rumours going around that a few Corofin players will start so changes expected before throw in.

1 Ruairi Lavelle
2 Eoghan Kerin
3 Jonny Duane
4 David Wynne
5 Gary O'Donnell
6 Gareth Bradshaw
7 Johnny Heaney
8 Thomas Flynn
9 Ciaran Duggan
10 Shane Walsh
11 Peter Cooke
12 Sean Kelly
13 Padraig Cunningham
14 Cein D'Arcy
15 Antaine O'Laoi
Be interesting to see who will pick up Tommy Walsh if he starts at 14. See David Cunnane replaced Seán Andy v Dublin but looks bit off county standard.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 23, 2019, 01:07:39 PM
Quote from: spuds on February 23, 2019, 01:03:31 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 22, 2019, 09:39:07 PM
Galway team. Strong rumours going around that a few Corofin players will start so changes expected before throw in.

1 Ruairi Lavelle
2 Eoghan Kerin
3 Jonny Duane
4 David Wynne
5 Gary O'Donnell
6 Gareth Bradshaw
7 Johnny Heaney
8 Thomas Flynn
9 Ciaran Duggan
10 Shane Walsh
11 Peter Cooke
12 Sean Kelly
13 Padraig Cunningham
14 Cein D'Arcy
15 Antaine O'Laoi
Be interesting to see who will pick up Tommy Walsh if he starts at 14. See David Cunnane replaced Seán Andy v Dublin but looks bit off county standard.
Yeah we wouldn't be overflowing with big strong backs for sure.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 02:56:21 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 22, 2019, 02:48:53 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 22, 2019, 11:52:53 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 22, 2019, 10:30:28 AM
I am sure the Mayo men would love a win here. 13 attempts an no wins, a poor return.

No matter the result, its arse boxing, only thing that matters is the super 8s onwards.

Hopefully an entertaining attacking game, which it usually is.

It probably goes to show how over rated this Mayo team are/were having had such a long losing streak.


Horan v Dublin

Played 7 won 2 lost 4 and 1 draw

Last meeting 2014 in Croke Park was a draw.

Mayo with ten same starters tomorrow maybe more if Mcloughlin starts.

Robbie Hennelly; Tom Cunniffe, Ger Cafferkey, Brendan Harrison; Lee Keegan, Donal Vaughan , Colm Boyle; Aidan O'Shea, Jason Gibbons; Kevin McLoughlin , Keith Higgins, Jason Doherty; Andy Moran, Alan Freeman, Cillian O'Connor.

The likes of Hennelly,Cafferkey seem to be his first choices regardless of fan opinion?

God, you are harking back to results that are 5 years or older. And the best you can come up with is a draw.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 02:58:52 PM
Dublin team named and probably won't start as selected.

Evan Comerford
David Byrne
Mick Fitzsimons
Eoin Murchan
James McCarthy
Jonny Cooper
Jack McCaffrey
Brian Fenton
Darren Gavin
Brian Howard
Cormac Costello
Niall Scully
Paul Mannion
Dean Rock
Con O'Callaghan
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 23, 2019, 03:04:07 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 02:56:21 PM
God, you are harking back to results that are 5 years or older. And the best you can come up with is a draw.
Are you a bit lost? Its Horan's record against Dublin and the last meeting Horan had v Dublin ended in a draw in Croke Park.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 04:10:17 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 23, 2019, 03:04:07 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 02:56:21 PM
God, you are harking back to results that are 5 years or older. And the best you can come up with is a draw.
Are you a bit lost? Its Horan's record against Dublin and the last meeting Horan had v Dublin ended in a draw in Croke Park.

No, I'm not lost! You are referring to results that are 5 years or older. Half a decade against a more than likely an almost completely different Dublin team.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 23, 2019, 04:44:38 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 04:10:17 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 23, 2019, 03:04:07 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 02:56:21 PM
God, you are harking back to results that are 5 years or older. And the best you can come up with is a draw.
Are you a bit lost? Its Horan's record against Dublin and the last meeting Horan had v Dublin ended in a draw in Croke Park.

No, I'm not lost! You are referring to results that are 5 years or older. Half a decade against a more than likely an almost completely different Dublin team.

I was referring to Horan's results against Dublin and that tonights Mayo team contains 10 same starters from the 2014 game. If Mayo win tonight, Horan will adjust his cap and likely say to the media lookit i have beaten Dublin before and move on to talking up the new/young players.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 04:53:35 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 23, 2019, 04:44:38 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 04:10:17 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 23, 2019, 03:04:07 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 02:56:21 PM
God, you are harking back to results that are 5 years or older. And the best you can come up with is a draw.
Are you a bit lost? Its Horan's record against Dublin and the last meeting Horan had v Dublin ended in a draw in Croke Park.

No, I'm not lost! You are referring to results that are 5 years or older. Half a decade against a more than likely an almost completely different Dublin team.

I was referring to Horan's results against Dublin and that tonights Mayo team contains 10 same starters from the 2014 game. If Mayo win tonight, Horan will adjust his cap and likely say to the media lookit i have beaten Dublin before and move on to talking up the new/young players.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 05:31:35 PM
Mayo bench for tonight according to the program.

D Clarke
C Barrett
D Drake
M Plunkett
J McCormack
S Coen
J Kelly
S O Shea
F Boland
K McLoughlin
C Loftus
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: highorlow on February 23, 2019, 06:27:31 PM
Time to put down a marker.

We will do it by 3
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: bennydorano on February 23, 2019, 06:43:04 PM
Any links plz
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 06:52:34 PM
Two changes to the Dublin team, Dean Rock and James McCarty ruled out through injury Cian O'Sullivan and Ciarán Kilkenny start.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: on the sideline on February 23, 2019, 07:04:57 PM
Any streams for tonight's games?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 07:13:40 PM
Defences on top so far. Dublin 0-2 Mayo 0-0 14 mins gone.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2019, 07:18:53 PM
Don't often see Higgins skinned like that. Nifty footwork from Costello.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rudi on February 23, 2019, 07:19:02 PM
McManus on fire for Monaghan
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 07:21:47 PM
22 mins played Dublin 1-3 Mayo 0-2
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2019, 07:25:43 PM
Cian O'Sullivan has some moustache on display.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 07:30:21 PM
30 mins played Dublin 1-5 Mayo 0-2. Rob Hennelly keeping Mayo in the game with a number of one on one saves.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2019, 07:39:37 PM
Mayo blessed to be only 6 down at the break. Dublin have missed 3 (or was it 4?) clear goal chances. Hennelly keeping them in it just about.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 07:40:41 PM
Dublin 1-6 Mayo 0-3 HT. Mayo missed a penalty but are lucky to be only 6 down at the break.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rudi on February 23, 2019, 07:42:47 PM
Tyrone 3 up at half time. Decent game last 4 mins aside
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: themac_23 on February 23, 2019, 07:43:31 PM
So yeah the end of the Tyrone Monaghan first half just showed exactly what the sin bin adds to the game.... zero
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 23, 2019, 07:45:10 PM
Beat sick in every position out field. Only for Hennelly, it could be 5 or 6-6 to Dublin.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2019, 08:02:39 PM
Hennelly earning his corn tonight. Another good save.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 08:11:00 PM
50 mins played Dublin 1-8 Mayo 0-5
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 23, 2019, 08:13:31 PM
How the f**k was that a black? And Cooper getting a yellow?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2019, 08:16:00 PM
Umpire poleaxed. Cart coming out for him.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on February 23, 2019, 08:17:13 PM
This refereeing performance is in Cormac Reilly territory
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2019, 08:19:55 PM
Gas that someone in the sin bin can miss feck all play if there is a serious injury while he's off. Clock just keeps on ticking.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 23, 2019, 08:21:11 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 23, 2019, 08:13:31 PM
How the f**k was that a black? And Cooper getting a yellow?
SOS was a hand trip. Clear as day a black, Fenton was away clear and tripped. Pure stupid by O'Shea in fairness.

Cooper was a pull back, not a pull down. Rule not written correctly in that regard, but that is the way it's written.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Over the Bar on February 23, 2019, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 23, 2019, 08:13:31 PM
How the f**k was that a black? And Cooper getting a yellow?

Probably 'cos Dublin give referees brown envelopes for behind closed doors lessons in cheating.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2019, 08:28:15 PM
Second half has been a bit of a non event. Lots of stoppages and horrendous wides from both teams.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: thejuice on February 23, 2019, 08:31:19 PM
Mayo shooting has been poor but they don't look out of it physically.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 23, 2019, 08:33:16 PM
Quote from: thejuice on February 23, 2019, 08:31:19 PM
Mayo shooting has been poor but they don't look out of it physically.
Rinse and repeat
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 08:38:45 PM
FT Dublin 1-12 Mayo 0-7. Dublin good value for that 8 point win. Poor quality 2nd half viewing that was.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 23, 2019, 08:41:14 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 08:38:45 PM
FT Dublin 1-12 Mayo 0-7. Dublin good value for that 8 point win. Poor quality 2nd half viewing that was.
Mayo dreadful.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: Hound on February 23, 2019, 08:41:14 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 08:38:45 PM
FT Dublin 1-12 Mayo 0-7. Dublin good value for that 8 point win. Poor quality 2nd half viewing that was.
Mayo dreadful.
Yes 14 wides and a defence that was lucky they didn't concede about 4-15. It's a while since i seen Dublin as wasteful. 2nd half was 0-6 to 0-4 a very error ridden and stop start half of football.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Over the Bar on February 23, 2019, 08:54:07 PM
By the look of the tv footage not many Dublin players or fans know the words of amhran na bhfiann :o
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 08:54:48 PM
Well done Dublin! I don't know how ye do it (actually I do know)!

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2019, 08:55:08 PM
What does a goalkeeper have to do to get man of the match? Hennelly made 5 or 6 one on one saves and still didn't get it.

And kicked 2 frees as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 08:57:03 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2019, 08:55:08 PM
What does a goalkeeper have to do to get man of the match? Hennelly made 5 or 6 one on one saves and still didn't get it.

And kicked 2 frees as well.

Being on the winning team helps as well!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 08:58:40 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2019, 08:55:08 PM
What does a goalkeeper have to do to get man of the match? Hennelly made 5 or 6 one on one saves and still didn't get it.

And kicked 2 frees as well.

He was clear stand out player tonight.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 09:01:30 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 08:58:40 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2019, 08:55:08 PM
What does a goalkeeper have to do to get man of the match? Hennelly made 5 or 6 one on one saves and still didn't get it.

And kicked 2 frees as well.

He was clear stand out player tonight.

If you are just including Mayo - then that was not hard. He has endured a tough time, Hope he holds this form when the real stuff begins.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 23, 2019, 09:03:17 PM
Outclassed all over. A right bang down to Earth reality check for the summer. Will the young guns learn? Hope they can, the forwards (which I honestly thought were good enough) were awful.
Poor 2nd half. Hennelly the only Mayo player to prove his worth. Clarke will have a job to get back again.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on February 23, 2019, 09:09:15 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2019, 08:55:08 PM
What does a goalkeeper have to do to get man of the match? Hennelly made 5 or 6 one on one saves and still didn't get it.

And kicked 2 frees as well.

Now he must know how Stephen Cluxton felt so many times.

BTW: Well done Dubs,
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 23, 2019, 09:11:32 PM
I thought Fenton was clear man of the match. Cooper great, as usual, and Davy Byrne was very good considering it was his first game in so long.

Costello got a great goal and is a super talent of course, but he'd be better if he was less greedy. I wouldn't have given him man of the match.
He's definitely not good enough on long range frees to take over from Rock.

Very happy with Evan Comerford. That was his best game for the Dubs I thought
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oliverkelly on February 23, 2019, 09:25:36 PM
Not sure what all the talk about Reape is. Apart from scoring a goal after taking about 12 steps against Roscommon hes been terrible from what i have seen. Rochford was probably right on not to rate him
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 09:31:02 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on February 23, 2019, 09:09:15 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2019, 08:55:08 PM
What does a goalkeeper have to do to get man of the match? Hennelly made 5 or 6 one on one saves and still didn't get it.

And kicked 2 frees as well.

Now he must know how Stephen Cluxton felt so many times.

BTW: Well done Dubs,

I'm sure Cluxo is worried about MOTM awards!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on February 23, 2019, 09:45:05 PM
The likes of Higgins & Moran really struggled tonight. Father Time is saying hello. Didn't have the legs. Disappointed in Dublin. Normally they are ruthless. Only for Hennelly it would have been a slaughter
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 10:03:06 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 23, 2019, 09:45:05 PM
The likes of Higgins & Moran really struggled tonight. Father Time is saying hello. Didn't have the legs. Disappointed in Dublin. Normally they are ruthless. Only for Hennelly it would have been a slaughter

Dublin are holding back. The second half proved that. No point in hammering Mayo and bringing the spotlight back on them.

Been saying this before - Mayo in 2017 is the last time anybody seen Mayo in real Championship. That will be two years ago this summer. two years is a fair bit of time for lads in their 30's. Lads who have been on the go for the guts of a decade or more.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 24, 2019, 12:20:07 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 23, 2019, 09:45:05 PM
The likes of Higgins & Moran really struggled tonight. Father Time is saying hello. Didn't have the legs. Disappointed in Dublin. Normally they are ruthless. Only for Hennelly it would have been a slaughter

Higgins did very well in scrambled defence. Andy did ok apart from product and legs had nothing to do with that. Higgins still has legs to spare and Andy was never about legs ever.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 24, 2019, 12:41:41 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 10:03:06 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 23, 2019, 09:45:05 PM
The likes of Higgins & Moran really struggled tonight. Father Time is saying hello. Didn't have the legs. Disappointed in Dublin. Normally they are ruthless. Only for Hennelly it would have been a slaughter

Dublin are holding back. The second half proved that. No point in hammering Mayo and bringing the spotlight back on them.

Been saying this before - Mayo in 2017 is the last time anybody seen Mayo in real Championship. That will be two years ago this summer. two years is a fair bit of time for lads in their 30's. Lads who have been on the go for the guts of a decade or more.

Ah, relax a bit Bunker.
Tonight was not championship. We've got chasings before in league and wouldn't be surprised if we got one in 2017 as well but cant recall. It doesn't matter. I do remember we got hammered by Donegal in Ballyshannon in league in 2012 even though we had a player advantage for guts of an hour.
We are usually completely dysfunctional this time of year so nothing new there.
Tonight was team a that has a process pretty much perfected v a cobbled together effort. The lad, mostly talking to Horan on sideline. on the telly. is the Dublin based selector/trainer. 
Dublin do not have to cope with those logistical issues. Imagine Dublin having players trained in Mayo/Connacht/wherever?
This is not about age or miles or shite. Talent even. It's about logistics/ organisation and coaching in a sympathetic environment.
We are up against it I know but we have had a decent cut at it a few summers. Forget about tonight.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 24, 2019, 01:06:18 AM
Quote from: moysider on February 24, 2019, 12:41:41 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 10:03:06 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 23, 2019, 09:45:05 PM
The likes of Higgins & Moran really struggled tonight. Father Time is saying hello. Didn't have the legs. Disappointed in Dublin. Normally they are ruthless. Only for Hennelly it would have been a slaughter

Dublin are holding back. The second half proved that. No point in hammering Mayo and bringing the spotlight back on them.

Been saying this before - Mayo in 2017 is the last time anybody seen Mayo in real Championship. That will be two years ago this summer. two years is a fair bit of time for lads in their 30's. Lads who have been on the go for the guts of a decade or more.

Ah, relax a bit Bunker.
Tonight was not championship. We've got chasings before in league and wouldn't be surprised if we got one in 2017 as well but cant recall. It doesn't matter. I do remember we got hammered by Donegal in Ballyshannon in league in 2012 even though we had a player advantage for guts of an hour.
We are usually completely dysfunctional this time of year so nothing new there.
Tonight was team a that has a process pretty much perfected v a cobbled together effort. The lad, mostly talking to Horan on sideline. on the telly. is the Dublin based selector/trainer. 
Dublin do not have to cope with those logistical issues. Imagine Dublin having players trained in Mayo/Connacht/wherever?
This is not about age or miles or shite. Talent even. It's about logistics/ organisation and coaching in a sympathetic environment.
We are up against it I know but we have had a decent cut at it a few summers. Forget about tonight.

Don't  forget the time the freak fog bank that descended on McHale Park in Feb 2012 that saved us from an almighty hammering from the Dubs!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Gold on February 24, 2019, 03:01:57 AM
Quote from: moysider on February 24, 2019, 12:20:07 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 23, 2019, 09:45:05 PM
The likes of Higgins & Moran really struggled tonight. Father Time is saying hello. Didn't have the legs. Disappointed in Dublin. Normally they are ruthless. Only for Hennelly it would have been a slaughter

Higgins did very well in scrambled defence. Andy did ok apart from product and legs had nothing to do with that. Higgins still has legs to spare and Andy was never about legs ever.

Totally agree. Some people haven't a clue
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on February 24, 2019, 09:50:31 AM
Quote from: moysider on February 24, 2019, 12:20:07 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 23, 2019, 09:45:05 PM
The likes of Higgins & Moran really struggled tonight. Father Time is saying hello. Didn't have the legs. Disappointed in Dublin. Normally they are ruthless. Only for Hennelly it would have been a slaughter

Higgins did very well in scrambled defence. Andy did ok apart from product and legs had nothing to do with that. Higgins still has legs to spare and Andy was never about legs ever.

The only time Higgins seen Costello was for the throw ins at the start of each half. The rest of the time was spent chasing shadows or dealing with the rebounds after yet another goal chance/save by Hennelly.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: spuds on February 24, 2019, 11:26:57 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 24, 2019, 09:50:31 AM
Quote from: moysider on February 24, 2019, 12:20:07 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 23, 2019, 09:45:05 PM
The likes of Higgins & Moran really struggled tonight. Father Time is saying hello. Didn't have the legs. Disappointed in Dublin. Normally they are ruthless. Only for Hennelly it would have been a slaughter

Higgins did very well in scrambled defence. Andy did ok apart from product and legs had nothing to do with that. Higgins still has legs to spare and Andy was never about legs ever.

The only time Higgins seen Costello was for the throw ins at the start of each half. The rest of the time was spent chasing shadows or dealing with the rebounds after yet another goal chance/save by Hennelly.
Exaggerations don't prove damn all. Costello had a very good night and is having a fine league after bench warming for last 5 years plus injuries. He got away with 8/9 steps before he played the ball once he had caught it leading up to his goal, do you not think this caused Higgins to slip as any decent defender is waiting on the attacker to play the ball and then pounce?

Mayo played mostly with no spare man back so was 1-on-1 stuff. Result and performance dampens down the early league gains but as Moysider rightly says it is early days and poor league displays have preceded good championship runs previously. Time to regroup and have a cut at the bad recent record with our neighbours to the south.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on February 24, 2019, 11:37:36 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 24, 2019, 09:50:31 AM
Quote from: moysider on February 24, 2019, 12:20:07 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 23, 2019, 09:45:05 PM
The likes of Higgins & Moran really struggled tonight. Father Time is saying hello. Didn't have the legs. Disappointed in Dublin. Normally they are ruthless. Only for Hennelly it would have been a slaughter

Higgins did very well in scrambled defence. Andy did ok apart from product and legs had nothing to do with that. Higgins still has legs to spare and Andy was never about legs ever.

The only time Higgins seen Costello was for the throw ins at the start of each half. The rest of the time was spent chasing shadows or dealing with the rebounds after yet another goal chance/save by Hennelly.

The point is if Higgins doesn't have the legs then 95% of backs have the same issue. He's a great player but has always been a bit loose when left 1 on 1 against top forwards. Andy won a decent amount of ball in front of Fitzsimons and even turned him at one point in the 1st half. Just had an off night with the finishing. I suppose if you keep saying their legs are gone for long enough, you'll be right eventually...

An 8 point defeat is pretty bad but it's broadly in line with Dublin's last few games in Croker. They beat Galway by 11 a few weeks ago, Tyrone by 6 in the final last year, Galway by 9 in the semi-final, Roscommon by 14 and Donegal by a mere 5 in the super 8s. Even Kerry were beat by 12 in the league last year.

We will improve from our showing last night but won't be winning an All Ireland any time soon.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Sportacus on February 24, 2019, 02:06:05 PM
Mayo just hadn't the composure up front, otherwise they could have made a game of it.  Missing the penalty summed up their night up front.  They went man to man for parts of the game and played a man down for twenty minutes, so it was all a bit of struggle when you don't bring your shooting boots.  Just leave O'Shea on the edge of the square for gods sake, and use him when it suits.  Plenty of pace in their half forwards as well.  There'll be a kick in Mayo this summer.   
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on February 24, 2019, 02:37:10 PM
Quote from: spuds on February 24, 2019, 11:26:57 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 24, 2019, 09:50:31 AM
Quote from: moysider on February 24, 2019, 12:20:07 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on February 23, 2019, 09:45:05 PM
The likes of Higgins & Moran really struggled tonight. Father Time is saying hello. Didn't have the legs. Disappointed in Dublin. Normally they are ruthless. Only for Hennelly it would have been a slaughter

Higgins did very well in scrambled defence. Andy did ok apart from product and legs had nothing to do with that. Higgins still has legs to spare and Andy was never about legs ever.

The only time Higgins seen Costello was for the throw ins at the start of each half. The rest of the time was spent chasing shadows or dealing with the rebounds after yet another goal chance/save by Hennelly.
Exaggerations don't prove damn all. Costello had a very good night and is having a fine league after bench warming for last 5 years plus injuries. He got away with 8/9 steps before he played the ball once he had caught it leading up to his goal, do you not think this caused Higgins to slip as any decent defender is waiting on the attacker to play the ball and then pounce?

Mayo played mostly with no spare man back so was 1-on-1 stuff. Result and performance dampens down the early league gains but as Moysider rightly says it is early days and poor league displays have preceded good championship runs previously. Time to regroup and have a cut at the bad recent record with our neighbours to the south.

Absolutely correct re steps

He knew himself he had overplayed it...you can tell by the way he dropped it to the ground just as he took off.

Mayo didn't lose because of the ref, but he gave everything to Dublin last night
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 24, 2019, 03:13:08 PM
Bad Day at Healy Park but despite the scoreboard discrepancy, a  low intensity mistake ridden performance, I thought there were a few bright notes for Monaghan. Plenty of improvement needed but not dead yet.
At least not as dead as the black card sin bin experiment.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: highorlow on February 24, 2019, 03:15:04 PM
Aiden O'Shea yet again wasted in half forwards. We tried a long ball game in the first half that didn't work. He ought to have been in FF to at least open more space for Andy Moran. You'd have to question why he takes a sideline ball late in the 1st half instead of going inside to win it? No one from the bench came over to advise him. It's a bit of a worry and Horan needs to buck up imo. Team and management got a wake up call last night.

Frustrated with the ref, black card all day long and the goalie was 3 yards off his line for the penalty.

The new sideline rule is a cod. It favors the team that don't have the line ball.

We were ok in the 2nd half but very poor decision making cost us. Should have started Drake to stop McCaffery, hope he gets a start in the league, he deserves it, anyone that saw him against Breaffy in the club championship would agree with me. They got 1-2 off McCafferys counter attacks in the 1st half, that was when the game was won.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 24, 2019, 04:36:02 PM
Disappointing one point defeat in Tuam.  Should have taken a draw at least out of that game but a couple of black cards and inaccuracy early in the second half were our downfall.  I know we are missing a few key players but we are setting up too defensive, Kevin needs to trust his personnel more.  On to Castlebar we go next weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 24, 2019, 04:48:30 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on February 24, 2019, 04:36:02 PM
Disappointing one point defeat in Tuam.  Should have taken a draw at least out of that game but a couple of black cards and inaccuracy early in the second half were our downfall.  I know we are missing a few key players but we are setting up too defensive, Kevin needs to trust his personnel more.  On to Castlebar we go next weekend.

Getting off to some very slow starts but that's what can happen when you are so defensive and passive and invite teams to attack you. Kerry were 5 or 6 points up before they decided to start playing a bit. Probably unlucky to not get a draw out of it in the end but you just want them to be a bit more proactive. The first instinct is to pass the ball sideways or even backwards and it's all coming from the management.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 24, 2019, 05:03:39 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 24, 2019, 04:48:30 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on February 24, 2019, 04:36:02 PM
Disappointing one point defeat in Tuam.  Should have taken a draw at least out of that game but a couple of black cards and inaccuracy early in the second half were our downfall.  I know we are missing a few key players but we are setting up too defensive, Kevin needs to trust his personnel more.  On to Castlebar we go next weekend.

Getting off to some very slow starts but that's what can happen when you are so defensive and passive and invite teams to attack you. Kerry were 5 or 6 points up before they decided to start playing a bit. Probably unlucky to not get a draw out of it in the end but you just want them to be a bit more proactive. The first instinct is to pass the ball sideways or even backwards and it's all coming from the management.
Agreed, it's very frustrating to watch.  Flynn's black came just after we went a point up and it proved very costly in the end. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 24, 2019, 05:13:39 PM
Frustrating.
The amount of stupid turnovers that led directly to Kerry scores seconds later was something else.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on February 24, 2019, 06:47:37 PM
Galway a bit unlucky at the end there. Lyne should have been black carded when the scores were level. Blatant body check.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrdeeds on February 24, 2019, 06:54:35 PM
Cavan were full value for win and probably should have won by more with over 15 wides and dropped a few short. Nice to beat the boogie team.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 24, 2019, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: galwayman on February 24, 2019, 05:13:39 PM
Frustrating.
The amount of stupid turnovers that led directly to Kerry scores seconds later was something else.

Didn't notice at the game but just saw the replay of the winner in injury time there. Took about 10 steps at one stage.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 24, 2019, 07:30:11 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 24, 2019, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: galwayman on February 24, 2019, 05:13:39 PM
Frustrating.
The amount of stupid turnovers that led directly to Kerry scores seconds later was something else.

Didn't notice at the game but just saw the replay of the winner in injury time there. Took about 10 steps at one stage.
4 x10 steps I thought, but he pedaled faster than I could count.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 24, 2019, 07:41:36 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2019, 07:30:11 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 24, 2019, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: galwayman on February 24, 2019, 05:13:39 PM
Frustrating.
The amount of stupid turnovers that led directly to Kerry scores seconds later was something else.

Didn't notice at the game but just saw the replay of the winner in injury time there. Took about 10 steps at one stage.
4 x10 steps I thought, but he pedaled faster than I could count.

He must have got away with it because they were only little ones.  ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 24, 2019, 07:42:34 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 24, 2019, 06:54:35 PM
Cavan were full value for win and probably should have won by more with over 15 wides and dropped a few short. Nice to beat the boogie team.
Didn't know our boys were dancers :D

Yeah Cavan on top from start to finish except may a few minutes after half time.
Only for that lorry load of wides we'd have been bet home by half time.
Someone said Cavan had 16 wides to our 3.
We were very flat today and lacked any cutting or intensity and some ill  discipline too.
One red but 2 other lads were lucky enough not to follow.
Goals we gave away were bad ones . The 2 second half ones wouldn't be scored if Lavin was there imo.
We're back in the relegation sh1te after that result but the performance was more worrying.
Still it's only Dublin next Sunday ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 24, 2019, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2019, 03:13:08 PM
Bad Day at Healy Park but despite the scoreboard discrepancy, a  low intensity mistake ridden performance, I thought there were a few bright notes for Monaghan. Plenty of improvement needed but not dead yet.
At least not as dead as the black card sin bin experiment.

Normal service in the process of being restored, keep calm and carry on :)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrdeeds on February 24, 2019, 07:48:35 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 24, 2019, 07:42:34 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 24, 2019, 06:54:35 PM
Cavan were full value for win and probably should have won by more with over 15 wides and dropped a few short. Nice to beat the boogie team.
Didn't know our boys were dancers :D

Yeah Cavan on top from start to finish except may a few minutes after half time.
Only for that lorry load of wides we'd have been bet home by half time.
Someone said Cavan had 16 wides to our 3.
We were very flat today and lacked any cutting or intensity and some I'll discipline too.
One red but 2 other lads were lucky enough not to follow.
Goals we gave away were bad ones . The 2 second half ones wouldn't be scored if Lavin was there imo.
We're back in the relegation sh1te after that result but the performance was more worrying.
Still it's only Dublin next Sunday ::)

Ah sure you can't blame it on sunshine or moonlight.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 24, 2019, 08:05:06 PM
Black cards cost Galway the match today, think Kerry scored 8 points whilst Galway were down to 14 whilst scoring 1 in return. Kerry really struggled when Galway had 15 on the pitch. Anyone any idea what McHugh's black card was for? Just before McHugh got one Crowley got a yellow for what looked like a deliberate trip which I thought was a black card offence? Then there was the clear black card Lynne should have got when the game was level for a deliberate collision with Heaney. Time and time again Stephen O'Brien overdoes it with the steps and gets away with it, has been doing it for years yets never ever gets pulled up on it.

McQuillan did Galway no favours but Galway certainly going to have to cope better with going a man down in future, that was a dreadul 8 minutes at the end of the first half when Kerry scored 5 points. Walsh very poor today, didn't look interested and his decision making was appalling. Bradshaw too, worst I've seen him play in a long long time. Cunningham & Cummins both made very positive impacts when they came on. O'Donnell showing signs of ageing too, never been the quickest but looks to have lost a bit of pace since last year.

edit: Just seen their 2nd to last score, how has McQuillan not noticed he's taken 16 steps.

Kerry a good few weeks ahead of Galway so can't be too disappointed but Galway were certainly a hard watch during the 1st half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 24, 2019, 08:29:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 24, 2019, 07:42:34 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 24, 2019, 06:54:35 PM
Cavan were full value for win and probably should have won by more with over 15 wides and dropped a few short. Nice to beat the boogie team.
Didn't know our boys were dancers :D

Yeah Cavan on top from start to finish except may a few minutes after half time.
Only for that lorry load of wides we'd have been bet home by half time.
Someone said Cavan had 16 wides to our 3.
We were very flat today and lacked any cutting or intensity and some ill  discipline too.
One red but 2 other lads were lucky enough not to follow.
Goals we gave away were bad ones . The 2 second half ones wouldn't be scored if Lavin was there imo.
We're back in the relegation sh1te after that result but the performance was more worrying.
Still it's only Dublin next Sunday ::)

3-13 conceded and 16 wides to Cavan i can't even imagine what Dublin will score if the rossies defend as poorly. Fair play to Cavan impressive win and a little unlucky they didn't get something out of their 3 other games.

A hard earned away win for Kerry a case of who plays them in the final now?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 24, 2019, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 24, 2019, 08:05:06 PM

edit: Just seen their 2nd to last score, how has McQuillan not noticed he's taken 16 steps.


The enforcement of this specific fundamental rule by referees, and Mc Quillan is far from unique here, is generally atrocious. How refs of the 'highest standard' don't have that 5-steps/5-seconds rule running subconsciously at all times escapes me.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 24, 2019, 09:20:52 PM
What really struck me today was when Liam Silke came on and got his hands on the ball his instinct is go forward, support the man in possession and take responsibility for the attack if needed yet when he gave the pass to anyone today their first instinct was to turn sideways or back to give the next one, meanwhile Liam has gone forward waiting for the next pass to come his way which is what Corofin do and it never comes. This defensive crap is really gone too far now and our game management is shocking. That free on the half back line towards the end of the game when Lavelle came up to receive the kick, we lost possession and ended up with a Kerry point which levelled the game, the next point came from a kick out over the side line. Silly stuff that shouldn't happen at this level. Did McHugh's black card come after a tangle in around the goal when Daly scored the point after Duane dispossessed the keeper?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Gold on February 24, 2019, 10:38:32 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 24, 2019, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 24, 2019, 08:05:06 PM

edit: Just seen their 2nd to last score, how has McQuillan not noticed he's taken 16 steps.


The enforcement of this specific fundamental rule by referees, and Mc Quillan is far from unique here, is generally atrocious. How refs of the 'highest standard' don't have that 5-steps/5-seconds rule running subconsciously at all times escapes me.

At least 16. Ridiculous
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 24, 2019, 10:49:06 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 24, 2019, 10:38:32 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 24, 2019, 09:10:50 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 24, 2019, 08:05:06 PM

edit: Just seen their 2nd to last score, how has McQuillan not noticed he's taken 16 steps.


The enforcement of this specific fundamental rule by referees, and Mc Quillan is far from unique here, is generally atrocious. How refs of the 'highest standard' don't have that 5-steps/5-seconds rule running subconsciously at all times escapes me.

At least 16. Ridiculous

Boys on Sunday Game didn't even mention it despite looking at replays of it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 24, 2019, 11:40:25 PM
Very annoying not to get some form of a result in the finish but given the poor first half performance from Galway and on the overall balance of play Kerry just about deserved the two points although seeing the amount of steps taken by O'Sé for that lead Kerry point I'm tempted to argue with that.

In the first half Galway were so ponderous and some of the ball played into the forward line was absolutely dire, not even 50/50 and with two men around a Galway player at times, even the likes of Comer wouldn't win them.
Contrast with the first score for O'Laoi (which he finished beautifully) when it was a ball into space where the forward would have to make a hames of it to not claim possession. We didn't see enough of this today.
Sean Kelly's goal chance was a big moment in the match, he had way more time than he realised, looked like he swung straight away on the turn, putting it high and wide when he could have composed himself for a better effort. For all the talk about boring or overly defence systems the biggest issue with Galway is that our chance conversion rate consistently isn't high enough, although it possibly wasn't deserved we had more than enough chances to get at least a draw from that match.

The end of the first half when McHugh got the black was the losing of this match in truth, it was far too easy for Kerry at that point and they really made hay to get a sizeable 5 point lead.
Overall in the first half, Kerry were much better in the tackle, had a much quicker and more efficient transition from their defensive setup to attack than Galway, especially when they had their man advantage. Better usage of the ball in general although some of the aimless ball kicked in the Kerry FF line which went wide was puzzling. Their press on every Galway player in possession was very effective also, Sean Andy (who I thought had a reasonably good game tbf although he is still not confidently fetching high balls like he did at U21 level) and a couple of other players were very lucky not to get badly caught out on numerous occasions.

Better performance in the second half with the bit of wind but the game intelligence wasn't at the top level, a lot of the wrong options taken handing hard won possession straight back to Kerry, a quick free inside the 45 which wasn't to hand and should have been left to McHugh for a shot at the posts, passes going well astray from intended targets and some of the shot selection was way off. Kerin in injury time running into a tackle and losing the ball leading to the lead Kerry score - not the first time we've seen these mental errors. Not being able to hold the lead for any decent length of time after Cummins pretty fortunate goal (Kerry keeper about 90% to blame) was also disappointing.

I'm hoping that Galway are in a different place with regards to training compared to this time 12 months ago as they definitely looked a bit sluggish at times and some of their touches, both hand passing and kick passing, is definitely well off what it should be.

By Round 4 of the league you'd expect them to be motoring better than in the early rounds but in the Cavan, Monaghan and Kerry matches the first half performances have been well below the requisite standard for Division One, after an acceptable first half against the Dubs the second half was a horror show so there's a pattern there of only playing for one half. We'll need to see a more consistent 70+ minute performance next Saturday against Mayo in what's a big match for both. Horan and Mayo will want to reestablish dominance in Connacht and also look for a bounce back from the poor display in the Dublin match, there will be no league final this year for the maroon but Galway need a win to keep out of relegation danger and maintain the current good run against Mayo.

I haven't watched the match back yet but McQuillan did Galway some disservice not producing a black card for that Lyne body check, it was right in front of him, I couldn't believe my eyes when he did nothing. The lack of consistency in the application of the rules affecting team numbers during this league is infuriating, black cards cost Galway badly today and a cast iron black isn't given to the opposition at an absolutely crucial time in the match? McHugh hit off the ball as well in the second half and nothing happened either. Jokeshop.

The Kerry supporters were there in great numbers and were utterly partisan for their team. As a result there were some fairly entitled one eyed Kerry gombeens on the terrace that you'd wonder were they watching the same match as yourself but you couldn't fault their passion for their team.
Now as for the Galway support in Tuam today, we hear plenty of North Galway folk going on about how tough it is to get in and out of Pearse and that's the reason they don't travel, Tuam is the real "home of football" where matches should be played etc. Where were they today? It was 50/50 between the two counties and the opposition support drove all the way from Kerry, a fine, dry day as well - there should have been a bigger Galway crowd there. Hurlers were out at the same time as well but in a match against Offaly that they were always going to win and in the Galway football heartlands the preference should surely be the big ball. Excuses about the quality of Galway's play and issues with Kevin Walsh will no doubt be trotted out this time around but the Galway support is just so flaky, it's no wonder the refs don't feel under any pressure from the home support to give a few homer decisions that might swing a tight match.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 25, 2019, 10:09:33 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 24, 2019, 11:40:25 PM
Very annoying not to get some form of a result in the finish but given the poor first half performance from Galway and on the overall balance of play Kerry just about deserved the two points although seeing the amount of steps taken by O'Sé for that lead Kerry point I'm tempted to argue with that.

In the first half Galway were so ponderous and some of the ball played into the forward line was absolutely dire, not even 50/50 and with two men around a Galway player at times, even the likes of Comer wouldn't win them.
Contrast with the first score for O'Laoi (which he finished beautifully) when it was a ball into space where the forward would have to make a hames of it to not claim possession. We didn't see enough of this today.
Sean Kelly's goal chance was a big moment in the match, he had way more time than he realised, looked like he swung straight away on the turn, putting it high and wide when he could have composed himself for a better effort. For all the talk about boring or overly defence systems the biggest issue with Galway is that our chance conversion rate consistently isn't high enough, although it possibly wasn't deserved we had more than enough chances to get at least a draw from that match.

The end of the first half when McHugh got the black was the losing of this match in truth, it was far too easy for Kerry at that point and they really made hay to get a sizeable 5 point lead.
Overall in the first half, Kerry were much better in the tackle, had a much quicker and more efficient transition from their defensive setup to attack than Galway, especially when they had their man advantage. Better usage of the ball in general although some of the aimless ball kicked in the Kerry FF line which went wide was puzzling. Their press on every Galway player in possession was very effective also, Sean Andy (who I thought had a reasonably good game tbf although he is still not confidently fetching high balls like he did at U21 level) and a couple of other players were very lucky not to get badly caught out on numerous occasions.

Better performance in the second half with the bit of wind but the game intelligence wasn't at the top level, a lot of the wrong options taken handing hard won possession straight back to Kerry, a quick free inside the 45 which wasn't to hand and should have been left to McHugh for a shot at the posts, passes going well astray from intended targets and some of the shot selection was way off. Kerin in injury time running into a tackle and losing the ball leading to the lead Kerry score - not the first time we've seen these mental errors. Not being able to hold the lead for any decent length of time after Cummins pretty fortunate goal (Kerry keeper about 90% to blame) was also disappointing.

I'm hoping that Galway are in a different place with regards to training compared to this time 12 months ago as they definitely looked a bit sluggish at times and some of their touches, both hand passing and kick passing, is definitely well off what it should be.

By Round 4 of the league you'd expect them to be motoring better than in the early rounds but in the Cavan, Monaghan and Kerry matches the first half performances have been well below the requisite standard for Division One, after an acceptable first half against the Dubs the second half was a horror show so there's a pattern there of only playing for one half. We'll need to see a more consistent 70+ minute performance next Saturday against Mayo in what's a big match for both. Horan and Mayo will want to reestablish dominance in Connacht and also look for a bounce back from the poor display in the Dublin match, there will be no league final this year for the maroon but Galway need a win to keep out of relegation danger and maintain the current good run against Mayo.

I haven't watched the match back yet but McQuillan did Galway some disservice not producing a black card for that Lyne body check, it was right in front of him, I couldn't believe my eyes when he did nothing. The lack of consistency in the application of the rules affecting team numbers during this league is infuriating, black cards cost Galway badly today and a cast iron black isn't given to the opposition at an absolutely crucial time in the match? McHugh hit off the ball as well in the second half and nothing happened either. Jokeshop.

The Kerry supporters were there in great numbers and were utterly partisan for their team. As a result there were some fairly entitled one eyed Kerry gombeens on the terrace that you'd wonder were they watching the same match as yourself but you couldn't fault their passion for their team.
Now as for the Galway support in Tuam today, we hear plenty of North Galway folk going on about how tough it is to get in and out of Pearse and that's the reason they don't travel, Tuam is the real "home of football" where matches should be played etc. Where were they today? It was 50/50 between the two counties and the opposition support drove all the way from Kerry, a fine, dry day as well - there should have been a bigger Galway crowd there. Hurlers were out at the same time as well but in a match against Offaly that they were always going to win and in the Galway football heartlands the preference should surely be the big ball. Excuses about the quality of Galway's play and issues with Kevin Walsh will no doubt be trotted out this time around but the Galway support is just so flaky, it's no wonder the refs don't feel under any pressure from the home support to give a few homer decisions that might swing a tight match.

A comprehensive review of the game as usual. Anyone any idea what McHugh's black card was for?

Turnover wise Kerin was unlucky when O'Brien dispossessed him near the end, it was a clear foul before O'Se literally got the ball and just ran with it. Duane got caught in the first half, after his good game the last day I thought he was poor enough yesterday. Duggan every match so far has been turned over in the middle of the pitch, would like to see Cooke given a chance to partner Flynn before the end of the league. Walsh had one of those days where he gave it away too much but in fairness he was trying to make things happen as opposed to the other turnovers we suffered. Duggan, O'Donnell & Duane find themselves all too often on the ball in the middle 3rd and their all a bit one paced and one dimensional on the ball; I'm fairly confident to state that only one of them at most would be starting come the height of summer should Galway get that far. Then when you add in Kerin's limitations on the ball and Wynne's too it doesn't make a great mix especially when you consider the way Galway play. I don't think yesterday will have done anything to deter Kevin Walsh on Galways pattern of play, Kerry took advantage when they had the man extra but when it was 15 on 15 they really struggled to make any sort of inroads.

We all know what to expect from Galway in terms of style but finding only performing in one half is even more frustrating at this stage, with all the injuries and with the Corofin players missing it really it is likely going to be June 16th before we know where Galway are at.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 25, 2019, 10:53:33 AM
Delighted with the Cavan performance yesterday although still plenty of improvement possible as we kicked a huge amount of wides. Played into the wind in the 1st half and were the better team but Ros kept in it with some great point taking. Then Maddens fantastic  goal before half time set us up well. Ros had their purple patch just after half time and got back in front but only to be undone by Maddens 2nd goal against the run of play at the time. What a ball from Murray to Madden for that one. Harney sending off killed Ros, I was right beside it and while he didnt make a strong contact with Brady he did strike out at him into his face. Stupid stuff, right in front of the linesman and Gough was watching them too following a seperate incident a few seconds before. I doubt they will succeed in overturning that. For Cavan Killiam Clarke was massive at midfield, winning his contest with Enda Smith. I though Murray and Moyagh were excellent also as was McVitty who is really potentially one of the best players in Ireland in my opinion. Great to see Gerry Smith back, a guy who I would have put above McVitty in those U21 teams - really hope he can get up to speed quickly and fulfil his potential.  Ross have a lot of good players, didnt happen for them yesterday and they seemed very dodgy under the high ball especially. Still its league football and you dont know what training is happening. Realistically we are still hot favourites for the drop and we possibly need 3 points from our games away to Tyrone and Monaghan. The last game at home to Dublin likely a write off. Still feels good to produce a very good performance in the top tier.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 25, 2019, 11:06:08 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 25, 2019, 10:09:33 AM
Anyone any idea what McHugh's black card was for?

No more than myself no one around me at the match seemed to see what happened there. I thought McQuillan was initially going to go back to book/card a Kerry player who upended Duggan in the previous passage of play but the McHugh card has to be for something off the ball, although it surely wasn't an illegal body check anyway given that Lyne got away scot free with that down the stretch  ::)

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Duggan every match so far has been turned over in the middle of the pitch, would like to see Cooke given a chance to partner Flynn before the end of the league.

I think he needs to make a change up here also or revert to playing another genuine midfielder in the half forward line as he did in most games last year. One of the key takeaways from yesterday was when Galway absolutely had to get possession from their own kickout during injury time that we don't seem to have the set plays that put players into a position where they are an 80:20 favourite for the ball. Even with 14 players there should be something in the locker that can be called upon when badly needed. This has been an ongoing issue and while the restarts have certainly improved a bit since KW came in, Galway's setup for kickouts by bunching one side of the pitch with the midfielders and the rest of the players going for the breaks is - while effective enough - completely predictable at this point so teams will have well planned out how to they can best set themselves up to combat it. Some refinement is absolutely required here for the championship.

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I don't think yesterday will have done anything to deter Kevin Walsh on Galways pattern of play, Kerry took advantage when they had the man extra but when it was 15 on 15 they really struggled to make any sort of inroads.

We all know what to expect from Galway in terms of style but finding only performing in one half is even more frustrating at this stage, with all the injuries and with the Corofin players missing it really it is likely going to be June 16th before we know where Galway are at.

I think you're spot on there to be honest. The general pattern of play is not certainly not going to change but if the transition speed and the attacking impetus when on the ball improves then in a one off match with a full deck I think Kevin Walsh genuinely believes that system will put Galway in a position to beat any team not named Dublin. The reality of that is certainly open to question however.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 25, 2019, 12:55:49 PM
Some good posts there lads.
I don't have an issue with us getting bodies back - but when we win the ball back we don't break at pace and give any early ball inside.
Someone always turns back or sideways and slows it all down.
Some recurring issues...
1. As per above - the speed or lack thereof in our counter attacking play.
2. Some of our backs' discomfort in possession is hurting us.
Kerin got caught yesterday yes - but every time Seán Andy carries the ball he looks like he is either going to give a bad pass away or get bottled up and turn it over.
These two guys simply  have to pop off a short ball before  they attract traffic.
They're costing us scores.
Brads and Duane got caught a few times also yesterday but it's less of a recurring issue for these lads.
3. Our chance conversion ratio is terrible.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mouview on February 25, 2019, 04:04:13 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 24, 2019, 11:40:25 PM

The end of the first half when McHugh got the black was the losing of this match in truth, it was far too easy for Kerry at that point and they really made hay to get a sizeable 5 point lead.
Overall in the first half, Kerry were much better in the tackle, had a much quicker and more efficient transition from their defensive setup to attack than Galway, especially when they had their man advantage. Better usage of the ball in general although some of the aimless ball kicked in the Kerry FF line which went wide was puzzling. Their press on every Galway player in possession was very effective also, Sean Andy (who I thought had a reasonably good game tbf although he is still not confidently fetching high balls like he did at U21 level) and a couple of other players were very lucky not to get badly caught out on numerous occasions.


The Kerry supporters were there in great numbers and were utterly partisan for their team. As a result there were some fairly entitled one eyed Kerry gombeens on the terrace that you'd wonder were they watching the same match as yourself but you couldn't fault their passion for their team.
Now as for the Galway support in Tuam today, we hear plenty of North Galway folk going on about how tough it is to get in and out of Pearse and that's the reason they don't travel, Tuam is the real "home of football" where matches should be played etc. Where were they today? It was 50/50 between the two counties and the opposition support drove all the way from Kerry, a fine, dry day as well - there should have been a bigger Galway crowd there. Hurlers were out at the same time as well but in a match against Offaly that they were always going to win and in the Galway football heartlands the preference should surely be the big ball. Excuses about the quality of Galway's play and issues with Kevin Walsh will no doubt be trotted out this time around but the Galway support is just so flaky, it's no wonder the refs don't feel under any pressure from the home support to give a few homer decisions that might swing a tight match.

Given that Galway typically set up very defensively, I don't think the black card for McHugh (a forward), was necessarily the turning of the game. It was more due to Kerry settling into the match (with the breeze) I think, and exposing our poor FB line, even if SAOC had one of his better outings. Not a good day for the Annaghdown contingent; both got caught badly by bringing the ball into contact, and Kerins and his mouth got a good chasing by O'Brien et al.

There wasn't an awfully bad home crowd there, but it's not an excuse to say that few are attracted to see this Galway team play. They are desperately hard to watch and I wouldn't have gone to see them play in Salthill, had it been there.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 25, 2019, 04:12:06 PM
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2019, 04:04:13 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 24, 2019, 11:40:25 PM

The end of the first half when McHugh got the black was the losing of this match in truth, it was far too easy for Kerry at that point and they really made hay to get a sizeable 5 point lead.
Overall in the first half, Kerry were much better in the tackle, had a much quicker and more efficient transition from their defensive setup to attack than Galway, especially when they had their man advantage. Better usage of the ball in general although some of the aimless ball kicked in the Kerry FF line which went wide was puzzling. Their press on every Galway player in possession was very effective also, Sean Andy (who I thought had a reasonably good game tbf although he is still not confidently fetching high balls like he did at U21 level) and a couple of other players were very lucky not to get badly caught out on numerous occasions.


The Kerry supporters were there in great numbers and were utterly partisan for their team. As a result there were some fairly entitled one eyed Kerry gombeens on the terrace that you'd wonder were they watching the same match as yourself but you couldn't fault their passion for their team.
Now as for the Galway support in Tuam today, we hear plenty of North Galway folk going on about how tough it is to get in and out of Pearse and that's the reason they don't travel, Tuam is the real "home of football" where matches should be played etc. Where were they today? It was 50/50 between the two counties and the opposition support drove all the way from Kerry, a fine, dry day as well - there should have been a bigger Galway crowd there. Hurlers were out at the same time as well but in a match against Offaly that they were always going to win and in the Galway football heartlands the preference should surely be the big ball. Excuses about the quality of Galway's play and issues with Kevin Walsh will no doubt be trotted out this time around but the Galway support is just so flaky, it's no wonder the refs don't feel under any pressure from the home support to give a few homer decisions that might swing a tight match.

Given that Galway typically set up very defensively, I don't think the black card for McHugh (a forward), was necessarily the turning of the game. It was more due to Kerry settling into the match (with the breeze) I think, and exposing our poor FB line, even if SAOC had one of his better outings. Not a good day for the Annaghdown contingent; both got caught badly by bringing the ball into contact, and Kerins and his mouth got a good chasing by O'Brien et al.

There wasn't an awfully bad home crowd there, but it's not an excuse to say that few are attracted to see this Galway team play. They are desperately hard to watch and I wouldn't have gone to see them play in Salthill, had it been there.
Kerry owned the Galway kickouts at the start and the runners didn't get a look in.
It's great to be in Division 1 for that kind of experience if they can learn from it. Winning is all about learning.

As regards the fans I remember maybe 1993 when Tomas Mannion's sister was complaining that nobody
was going to see them. And who was to know what would later transpire ?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 25, 2019, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2019, 04:04:13 PM
There wasn't an awfully bad home crowd there, but it's not an excuse to say that few are attracted to see this Galway team play. They are desperately hard to watch and I wouldn't have gone to see them play in Salthill, had it been there.

Look it's just my own personal opinion/frustration about the generally piss poor Galway support, felt more like a Kerry home match at times yesterday.
I've heard plenty of different reasons for this down through the years, always seems to be something and it was the same way when Galway played the nice traditional stuff as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 25, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
Have ye still got just 90 (Ninety) season ticket holders???
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 25, 2019, 04:55:49 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 25, 2019, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2019, 04:04:13 PM
There wasn't an awfully bad home crowd there, but it's not an excuse to say that few are attracted to see this Galway team play. They are desperately hard to watch and I wouldn't have gone to see them play in Salthill, had it been there.

Look it's just my own personal opinion/frustration about the generally piss poor Galway support, felt more like a Kerry home match at times yesterday.
I've heard plenty of different reasons for this down through the years, always seems to be something and it was the same way when Galway played the nice traditional stuff as well.
It's always been the way as far as I can remember and I've been going to Galway matches for the best part of 40 years, notable exception being late 90s and early 00s for obvious reasons.  The hurling support had actually dwindled quite a lot in the late 90s so it's not surprising to see it all linked to relative success I guess.  Anyway, it is what is right now but hopeful of it growing in the next couple of years! 😉
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 25, 2019, 05:05:38 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on February 25, 2019, 04:55:49 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 25, 2019, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2019, 04:04:13 PM
There wasn't an awfully bad home crowd there, but it's not an excuse to say that few are attracted to see this Galway team play. They are desperately hard to watch and I wouldn't have gone to see them play in Salthill, had it been there.

Look it's just my own personal opinion/frustration about the generally piss poor Galway support, felt more like a Kerry home match at times yesterday.
I've heard plenty of different reasons for this down through the years, always seems to be something and it was the same way when Galway played the nice traditional stuff as well.
It's always been the way as far as I can remember and I've been going to Galway matches for the best part of 40 years, notable exception being late 90s and early 00s for obvious reasons.  The hurling support had actually dwindled quite a lot in the late 90s so it's not surprising to see it all linked to relative success I guess.  Anyway, it is what is right now but hopeful of it growing in the next couple of years! 😉
Hurlers have had the same over the years.
When it looks like they might do something the crowds will come out - otherwise they stay away.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 25, 2019, 05:32:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 25, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
Have ye still got just 90 (Ninety) season ticket holders???

Might even be fewer people since ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 25, 2019, 06:08:10 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 25, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
Have ye still got just 90 (Ninety) season ticket holders???

Never heard that. I'd be surprised if it's true despite the limited entertainment value of Walsh ball.

The hurlers season ticket was completely sold out this year. I know a fair few people who couldn't even get one.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on February 25, 2019, 06:44:12 PM
Galway support has always been relatively poor but Roscommon support is exaggerated too , many championship games I can recall in recent years with rossie numbers way down on what they'd have today.But qf two years ago was the most I ever witnessed , I'd guess it's a record per population ,had to be 35k ros there that day. Mayo probably the most consistent but again exaggerated as in the league games for example these last few years has been phenomenal compared to when I was young ,Christ you could nearly count them at away games back in the 90s, nowadays it's near 5k plus no matter where we go  .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: southtyronegael on February 25, 2019, 09:17:34 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on February 25, 2019, 04:55:49 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 25, 2019, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2019, 04:04:13 PM
There wasn't an awfully bad home crowd there, but it's not an excuse to say that few are attracted to see this Galway team play. They are desperately hard to watch and I wouldn't have gone to see them play in Salthill, had it been there.

Look it's just my own personal opinion/frustration about the generally piss poor Galway support, felt more like a Kerry home match at times yesterday.
I've heard plenty of different reasons for this down through the years, always seems to be something and it was the same way when Galway played the nice traditional stuff as well.
It's always been the way as far as I can remember and I've been going to Galway matches for the best part of 40 years, notable exception being late 90s and early 00s for obvious reasons.  The hurling support had actually dwindled quite a lot in the late 90s so it's not surprising to see it all linked to relative success I guess.  Anyway, it is what is right now but hopeful of it growing in the next couple of years! 😉
i remember us playing galway in the 1995 semi final and out of an attendance of 37k there was def less than 5k from galway. was shocking. they won the ai 3 years later and had plenty of supporters.lol
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 26, 2019, 01:16:08 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 24, 2019, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2019, 03:13:08 PM
Bad Day at Healy Park but despite the scoreboard discrepancy, a  low intensity mistake ridden performance, I thought there were a few bright notes for Monaghan. Plenty of improvement needed but not dead yet.
At least not as dead as the black card sin bin experiment.

Normal service in the process of being restored, keep calm and carry on :)
Tyrone are one trick pony,  a one trick which came good on the the night,  however I have faith in the more honest, expansive and creative game which Monaghan will employ to good effect by the time the championship comes around. You see,  part of the the challenge for Monaghan  is to  meet the  intensity of  lesser teams who can effectively compensate for the absence of brain with an abundance of brawn  Monaghan just need to up the intensity, not an impossible task for us as it is a part of the our  football dna, but Tyrone would need to discover a plan B,  and just how far do you think  a team of robots can go in the direction of creativity and ingenuity.

Even with your black card ,where  a Tyrone player gets tackled around the chest area, a yellow card  at best even to a gullible ref, but the tyrone player swings around violently and hits  the ground clutching his face as if he's been poleaxed by a clothesline tackle. This I presume is just the well funded theatrical  training kicking in,  but by some  queer happenstance he injures his shoulder in the fall. And thar on he lied on the floor writhing in agony, the poor fecker.  All of a sudden the deathly face injury did not matter any more.
And that's how Tyrone swing games into their favour. May the heroic team of '86 not be besmirched by the antics of these inferiors.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on February 26, 2019, 07:03:11 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 26, 2019, 01:16:08 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 24, 2019, 07:46:55 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2019, 03:13:08 PM
Bad Day at Healy Park but despite the scoreboard discrepancy, a  low intensity mistake ridden performance, I thought there were a few bright notes for Monaghan. Plenty of improvement needed but not dead yet.
At least not as dead as the black card sin bin experiment.

Normal service in the process of being restored, keep calm and carry on :)
Tyrone are one trick pony,  a one trick which came good on the the night,  however I have faith in the more honest, expansive and creative game which Monaghan will employ to good effect by the time the championship comes around. You see,  part of the the challenge for Monaghan  is to  meet the  intensity of  lesser teams who can effectively compensate for the absence of brain with an abundance of brawn  Monaghan just need to up the intensity, not an impossible task for us as it is a part of the our  football dna, but Tyrone would need to discover a plan B,  and just how far do you think  a team of robots can go in the direction of creativity and ingenuity.

Even with your black card ,where  a Tyrone player gets tackled around the chest area, a yellow card  at best even to a gullible ref, but the tyrone player swings around violently and hits  the ground clutching his face as if he's been poleaxed by a clothesline tackle. This I presume is just the well funded theatrical  training kicking in,  but by some  queer happenstance he injures his shoulder in the fall. And thar on he lied on the floor writhing in agony, the poor fecker.  All of a sudden the deathly face injury did not matter any more.
And that's how Tyrone swing games into their favour. May the heroic team of '86 not be besmirched by the antics of these inferiors.

"We just need to up the intensity" The most bollocksy of all bollocksy GAA phrases. Strange how a county who has "intensity" as part of their DNA ( ;D) have always been found wanting when the games have been at their most intense against Tyrone in recent years at the business end of the championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2019, 09:26:00 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 25, 2019, 09:17:34 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on February 25, 2019, 04:55:49 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 25, 2019, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2019, 04:04:13 PM
There wasn't an awfully bad home crowd there, but it's not an excuse to say that few are attracted to see this Galway team play. They are desperately hard to watch and I wouldn't have gone to see them play in Salthill, had it been there.

Look it's just my own personal opinion/frustration about the generally piss poor Galway support, felt more like a Kerry home match at times yesterday.
I've heard plenty of different reasons for this down through the years, always seems to be something and it was the same way when Galway played the nice traditional stuff as well.
It's always been the way as far as I can remember and I've been going to Galway matches for the best part of 40 years, notable exception being late 90s and early 00s for obvious reasons.  The hurling support had actually dwindled quite a lot in the late 90s so it's not surprising to see it all linked to relative success I guess.  Anyway, it is what is right now but hopeful of it growing in the next couple of years! 😉
i remember us playing galway in the 1995 semi final and out of an attendance of 37k there was def less than 5k from galway. was shocking. they won the ai 3 years later and had plenty of supporters.lol
I dunno
Maybe if Tyrone had a few more all Irelands the attendance patterns might be different.  :o
Tyrone had zero all Irelands in 95 and Galway had a few passengers on the team. 
History gives a different perspective on mediocrity. Tyrone are at a different stage of development. 

Ni uasal agus iseal ach thuas seal agus thios seal   
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 26, 2019, 09:56:00 AM
Watched the game again, Galway were really dealt with harshly from McQuillan. McHugh must have got a black card for something he said unless it was something off the ball the camera's didn't pick up. Galway were on the wrong end of 4 very poor decisions which cost Galway, Kerry should have had 2 black cards for Crowley & Lynne and O'Shea scored from a free when Heaney was pulled for steps when he only took 4. Flynn's black card was very harsh too. Then you've got O'Se's score which is just a joke.

Flynn didn't have a great game defensively, a few scores came far too easily from the loose marking. I thought Kerin had an average game at the time but he had a great game. O'Brien fouled him when for O'Se's score, the only mistake he made all day was been turned too easily when O'Brien got away leading up to  Flynn's black card. He's clearly limited on the ball there's not many Galway defenders who can make turnovers like him when one on one with an opponent. Sean Andy had a good game apart from the first 15 minutes when he gave it away twice, looked a bit rusty.

Kickouts were a disappointment but Lavelle is completely blameless, seen enough of him the last 12 months to know he's improved his accuracy and more than capable of finding a team mate but the movement in front of him just wasn't there, don't know the stats but would assume Kerry retained a good deal more of their own kickouts then Galway did.

Kerry were just that more fluent on the ball, attacked with a bit more pace which is probably to be expected given so many of the players Galway have missing are quick. Would like to see John Daly get more time on the pitch, he offers a lot more going forward then O'Donnell & Duane; Sunday was just a combination of far too many players lacking pace around the middle 3rd. There was a noticeable difference when the quicker lads got on the ball when Galway transitioned and when Cunningham came on and added a physical presence to the full forward line. Got 2 balls, scored from one and won a free with the other.

The black cards were certainly the losing of the game, Kerry had 3 points in the first 27 minutes with a win and looked completely clueless had to break Galway down until McHugh's black card. So many times they just pumped an aimless ball into the full forward line that came to nothing;Galway clearly got to deal with going a man down a lot better.

Kevin Walsh will watch it and be even more determined to keep with the current tactics, that game will have done nothing to change his mind.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on February 26, 2019, 11:00:06 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 26, 2019, 09:26:00 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 25, 2019, 09:17:34 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on February 25, 2019, 04:55:49 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 25, 2019, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2019, 04:04:13 PM
There wasn't an awfully bad home crowd there, but it's not an excuse to say that few are attracted to see this Galway team play. They are desperately hard to watch and I wouldn't have gone to see them play in Salthill, had it been there.

Look it's just my own personal opinion/frustration about the generally piss poor Galway support, felt more like a Kerry home match at times yesterday.
I've heard plenty of different reasons for this down through the years, always seems to be something and it was the same way when Galway played the nice traditional stuff as well.
It's always been the way as far as I can remember and I've been going to Galway matches for the best part of 40 years, notable exception being late 90s and early 00s for obvious reasons.  The hurling support had actually dwindled quite a lot in the late 90s so it's not surprising to see it all linked to relative success I guess.  Anyway, it is what is right now but hopeful of it growing in the next couple of years! 😉
i remember us playing galway in the 1995 semi final and out of an attendance of 37k there was def less than 5k from galway. was shocking. they won the ai 3 years later and had plenty of supporters.lol
I dunno
Maybe if Tyrone had a few more all Irelands the attendance patterns might be different.  :o
Tyrone had zero all Irelands in 95 and Galway had a few passengers on the team. 
History gives a different perspective on mediocrity. Tyrone are at a different stage of development. 

Ni uasal agus iseal ach thuas seal agus thios seal   

Yeah, Galway supporters in 1995 must have been blasé about winning Sam Maguire given the fact that they won it 29 years previously.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2019, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 26, 2019, 11:00:06 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 26, 2019, 09:26:00 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 25, 2019, 09:17:34 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on February 25, 2019, 04:55:49 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 25, 2019, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2019, 04:04:13 PM
There wasn't an awfully bad home crowd there, but it's not an excuse to say that few are attracted to see this Galway team play. They are desperately hard to watch and I wouldn't have gone to see them play in Salthill, had it been there.

Look it's just my own personal opinion/frustration about the generally piss poor Galway support, felt more like a Kerry home match at times yesterday.
I've heard plenty of different reasons for this down through the years, always seems to be something and it was the same way when Galway played the nice traditional stuff as well.
It's always been the way as far as I can remember and I've been going to Galway matches for the best part of 40 years, notable exception being late 90s and early 00s for obvious reasons.  The hurling support had actually dwindled quite a lot in the late 90s so it's not surprising to see it all linked to relative success I guess.  Anyway, it is what is right now but hopeful of it growing in the next couple of years! 😉
i remember us playing galway in the 1995 semi final and out of an attendance of 37k there was def less than 5k from galway. was shocking. they won the ai 3 years later and had plenty of supporters.lol
I dunno
Maybe if Tyrone had a few more all Irelands the attendance patterns might be different.  :o
Tyrone had zero all Irelands in 95 and Galway had a few passengers on the team. 
History gives a different perspective on mediocrity. Tyrone are at a different stage of development. 

Ni uasal agus iseal ach thuas seal agus thios seal   

Yeah, Galway supporters in 1995 must have been blasé about winning Sam Maguire given the fact that they won it 29 years previously.

You know when the team isn't good enough. Nobody expected to win that semi as far as I was concerned. It was good to win Connacht and we had a good day out in Dublin.
But I remember talking to my father's uncles about the football when I was a teenager. And he said that when they got a good team together down past Clonberne they could beat anyone .
And that has a pedigree. Donnellan was on the 98 team. His father and grandfather won all Irelands before him.

So you might find Mayo posters laughing about how shite Galway have been over the last 15 years. And they have been abysmal
But when they get a team going they can go all the way. And not many other counties can say that. Down can also do it.  The Galway hurlers can't do it BTW
Mayo leave it behind them as well.

It remains to be seen if Tyrone can deliver on demand 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 26, 2019, 11:34:09 AM
And BTW Benny I think Galway lost the super 8 match against Monaghan because they didn't want to play the Dubs in the final. They knew the team wasn't ready.
Tyrone got all excited about being in the final and got pasted. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 26, 2019, 11:43:52 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 26, 2019, 11:34:09 AM
And BTW Benny I think Galway lost the super 8 match against Monaghan because they didn't want to play the Dubs in the final. They knew the team wasn't ready.
Tyrone got all excited about being in the final and got pasted.

Smart move by Galway holding back last year. Much better to get a paisting in a semi-final.  :P

Are Galway ready this year? Or will they throw a few more games to avoid getting to an All Ireland final v the Dubs?  ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on February 26, 2019, 12:42:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 26, 2019, 11:34:09 AM
And BTW Benny I think Galway lost the super 8 match against Monaghan because they didn't want to play the Dubs in the final. They knew the team wasn't ready.
Tyrone got all excited about being in the final and got pasted.

Great thinking from a proud GAA county. 😂
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on February 26, 2019, 03:49:01 PM
Stop embarrassing us with that nonsense Seafoid.

Galway's support is dodgy because the city is the ultimate transient town, filled with blow in's and students, that somehow has to try split support out amongst 4 separate teams, one of which (Rugby) is newly in vogue. Go into the hurling or football areas, which basically don't overlap whatsoever, and there isnt actually that many people there. Add in that we've an exciting top class hurling team which the county now follows heavily (including football fans), and add in that hurling people wouldn't watch a football game if it was in the next field. Then we've Galway being the festival capital of Ireland during the height of GAA season, with something constantly going on. Many factors behind a poor support.

Semi final versus Dublin, which the lack of attracted much criticism, is a perfect example. Few made the obvious connection that it was a few days removed from race week in the city, and that we'd a hurling All ireland final a weekend later. It's understandable how peoples pockets, time and social energy were well used up to be going up to Dublin watching a game as rank outsiders. Galways attendances have always dipped in late July and early August with so much going on
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 26, 2019, 04:26:45 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on February 26, 2019, 03:49:01 PM
Stop embarrassing us with that nonsense Seafoid.

Galway's support is dodgy because the city is the ultimate transient town, filled with blow in's and students, that somehow has to try split support out amongst 4 separate teams, one of which (Rugby) is newly in vogue. Go into the hurling or football areas, which basically don't overlap whatsoever, and there isnt actually that many people there. Add in that we've an exciting top class hurling team which the county now follows heavily (including football fans), and add in that hurling people wouldn't watch a football game if it was in the next field. Then we've Galway being the festival capital of Ireland during the height of GAA season, with something constantly going on. Many factors behind a poor support.

Semi final versus Dublin, which the lack of attracted much criticism, is a perfect example. Few made the obvious connection that it was a few days removed from race week in the city, and that we'd a hurling All ireland final a weekend later. It's understandable how peoples pockets, time and social energy were well used up to be going up to Dublin watching a game as rank outsiders. Galways attendances have always dipped in late July and early August with so much going on

There is a kernal of truth in this. Galway is a big county but the hurling half of the county have next to no interest in football. They might shout for Galway if they are watching them on telly but the vast majority of them wouldn't dream of paying into a football game. You could walk around Galway city and you'd probably meet more non Galweigans than locals. The football support is drawn almost exclusively from the north and the west of the county and the west in particular is sparsely enough populated despite being a large area on the map.

That said it should be better but it rises and falls depending on the fortunes of the team. And the current product is not enticing too many floating voters in through the gate.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 26, 2019, 05:48:16 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 26, 2019, 12:42:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 26, 2019, 11:34:09 AM
And BTW Benny I think Galway lost the super 8 match against Monaghan because they didn't want to play the Dubs in the final. They knew the team wasn't ready.
Tyrone got all excited about being in the final and got pasted.

Great thinking from a proud GAA county. 😂
Oh for the love of God stop seafoid - such nonsense talk.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 27, 2019, 08:10:39 AM
Fair play to the Galway bucks. Kinda putting the game on Saturday night in the background. Thankfully.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Tubberman on February 27, 2019, 08:55:54 AM
Kerry would have won the All-Ireland last year only it started raining.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/osullivan-i-genuinely-thought-wed-win-allireland-37859374.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/osullivan-i-genuinely-thought-wed-win-allireland-37859374.html)

Quote
"Coming through Munster I was like, this team has what it takes to win an All-Ireland.

"I thought we were never as well prepared in terms of what we needed, we couldn't have asked for more with the back room team, medical team, nutritionists and then we hit a stumbling block.

"We prepared unbelievably well for Galway but we got to Croke Park and it started to rain.

"Now it's a funny thing to blame rain in Ireland but when your game-plan is based around playing a certain way and you get to Croke Park and you can't do that because of the skid off the ball ... we just didn't adapt.

"You go to Clones then, a place you haven't played championship before, and are chasing a result against a strong Monaghan team and the doubt just crept in to fellas."
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 27, 2019, 09:33:16 AM
Merciful hour that is about as weak an excuse as you'd get, Monaghan threw away a win against them as well.
I think the "stumbling block" last year's Kerry team hit in the Super 8's was the fact they weren't lining out against an abject Cork team in every match.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 27, 2019, 10:46:25 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on February 27, 2019, 08:55:54 AM
Kerry would have won the All-Ireland last year only it started raining.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/osullivan-i-genuinely-thought-wed-win-allireland-37859374.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/osullivan-i-genuinely-thought-wed-win-allireland-37859374.html)

Quote
"Coming through Munster I was like, this team has what it takes to win an All-Ireland.

"I thought we were never as well prepared in terms of what we needed, we couldn't have asked for more with the back room team, medical team, nutritionists and then we hit a stumbling block.

"We prepared unbelievably well for Galway but we got to Croke Park and it started to rain.

"Now it's a funny thing to blame rain in Ireland but when your game-plan is based around playing a certain way and you get to Croke Park and you can't do that because of the skid off the ball ... we just didn't adapt.

"You go to Clones then, a place you haven't played championship before, and are chasing a result against a strong Monaghan team and the doubt just crept in to fellas."

Aw poor old Kerry. Losing two years in a row to Connacht teams.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 27, 2019, 02:20:27 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on February 27, 2019, 08:55:54 AM
Kerry would have won the All-Ireland last year only it started raining.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/osullivan-i-genuinely-thought-wed-win-allireland-37859374.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/osullivan-i-genuinely-thought-wed-win-allireland-37859374.html)

Quote
"Coming through Munster I was like, this team has what it takes to win an All-Ireland.

"I thought we were never as well prepared in terms of what we needed, we couldn't have asked for more with the back room team, medical team, nutritionists and then we hit a stumbling block.

"We prepared unbelievably well for Galway but we got to Croke Park and it started to rain.

"Now it's a funny thing to blame rain in Ireland but when your game-plan is based around playing a certain way and you get to Croke Park and you can't do that because of the skid off the ball ... we just didn't adapt.

"You go to Clones then, a place you haven't played championship before, and are chasing a result against a strong Monaghan team and the doubt just crept in to fellas."

O'Sullivan just a bit deluded. Kerry were hopeless in defence last year and would probably that faced a record championship defeat to Dublin if they played them last summer.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on February 27, 2019, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 27, 2019, 08:10:39 AM
Fair play to the Galway bucks. Kinda putting the game on Saturday night in the background. Thankfully.

Last saturday or this?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 27, 2019, 04:07:48 PM
This weekend predictions

Tyrone v Cavan - Tyrone by 2 points
Mayo v Galway - Draw
Roscommon v Dublin - Dublin by 9 points
Kerry v Monaghan - Kerry by 3 points

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 27, 2019, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on February 27, 2019, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 27, 2019, 08:10:39 AM
Fair play to the Galway bucks. Kinda putting the game on Saturday night in the background. Thankfully.

Last saturday or this?

Both. I don't know how where Mayo's scores are going to come from this weekend if Galway flood the defence.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 27, 2019, 04:44:45 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 27, 2019, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on February 27, 2019, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 27, 2019, 08:10:39 AM
Fair play to the Galway bucks. Kinda putting the game on Saturday night in the background. Thankfully.

Last saturday or this?

Both. I don't know how where Mayo's scores are going to come from this weekend if Galway flood the defence.

You're in luck Galway hardly hitting big scores.

I can see Cooke starting along with Flynn & Duggan this week if he's fit, he'll try and force Hennelly to go long with his kick outs and given Galway's size advantage around the middle. Even lads like McHugh & Duane who are't giants are very good fielders. Given its a smaller pitch that tactic is easier to implement.

Horan will have Mayo really pumped up with this given whats happened the last few years, we're in for a low scoring physical game in shit weather; Can't wait!!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 27, 2019, 05:00:58 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 27, 2019, 04:44:45 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 27, 2019, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on February 27, 2019, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 27, 2019, 08:10:39 AM
Fair play to the Galway bucks. Kinda putting the game on Saturday night in the background. Thankfully.

Last saturday or this?

Both. I don't know how where Mayo's scores are going to come from this weekend if Galway flood the defence.

You're in luck Galway hardly hitting big scores.

I can see Cooke starting along with Flynn & Duggan this week if he's fit, he'll try and force Hennelly to go long with his kick outs and given Galway's size advantage around the middle. Even lads like McHugh & Duane who are't giants are very good fielders. Given its a smaller pitch that tactic is easier to implement.

Horan will have Mayo really pumped up with this given whats happened the last few years, we're in for a low scoring physical game in shit weather; Can't wait!!!
Thats an impressive build up for the game MM - you will have both sets of supporters chomping at the bit for Sat eve!!  ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 27, 2019, 05:26:38 PM
This weekend predictions

Tyrone v Cavan -Cavan to continue to lift the hex and win by 2 points
Mayo v Galway - Mayo to win by 3
Roscommon v Dublin - Dublin by 6
Kerry v Monaghan - Kerry by 1 (Kerry not as great as the media are blowing them up to be)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 28, 2019, 10:12:12 PM
Galway team for Saturday evening named:

1. Ruairí Lavelle
2. Eoghan Kerin
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
4. David Wynne
5. Gary O Donnell
6. Gareth Bradshaw
7. Johnny Heaney
8. Thomas Flynn
9. Ciaran Duggan
10. Michael Daly
11. Johnny Duane
12. Eamonn Brannigan
13. Barry McHugh
14. Pádraic Cunningham
15. Antaine Ó Laoi

Might we get a shock and have no changes prior to the throw in?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 28, 2019, 10:33:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 28, 2019, 10:12:12 PM
Galway team for Saturday evening named:

1. Ruairí Lavelle
2. Eoghan Kerin
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
4. David Wynne
5. Gary O Donnell
6. Gareth Bradshaw
7. Johnny Heaney
8. Thomas Flynn
9. Ciaran Duggan
10. Michael Daly
11. Johnny Duane
12. Eamonn Brannigan
13. Barry McHugh
14. Pádraic Cunningham
15. Antaine Ó Laoi

Might we get a shock and have no changes prior to the throw in?

Sean Kelly,Peter Cooke,Shane Walsh out injured or all will likely start?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 28, 2019, 10:33:56 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 28, 2019, 10:12:12 PM
Galway team for Saturday evening named:

1. Ruairí Lavelle
2. Eoghan Kerin
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
4. David Wynne
5. Gary O Donnell
6. Gareth Bradshaw
7. Johnny Heaney
8. Thomas Flynn
9. Ciaran Duggan
10. Michael Daly
11. Johnny Duane
12. Eamonn Brannigan
13. Barry McHugh
14. Pádraic Cunningham
15. Antaine Ó Laoi

Might we get a shock and have no changes prior to the throw in?

Maybe Cooke for Duane might be a change on the day? No Shane Walsh but he did pick up a knock against Kerry so probably is out. Sean Kelly had his leg strapped with ice so he's probably out. Brannigan's first game in a long time. Would be surprised if he's not very rusty.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 28, 2019, 10:37:26 PM
Kelly is definitely out, Walsh might be as well. Don't know about Cooke.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 28, 2019, 10:53:09 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 26, 2019, 11:30:51 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 26, 2019, 11:00:06 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 26, 2019, 09:26:00 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 25, 2019, 09:17:34 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on February 25, 2019, 04:55:49 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 25, 2019, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: mouview on February 25, 2019, 04:04:13 PM
There wasn't an awfully bad home crowd there, but it's not an excuse to say that few are attracted to see this Galway team play. They are desperately hard to watch and I wouldn't have gone to see them play in Salthill, had it been there.

Look it's just my own personal opinion/frustration about the generally piss poor Galway support, felt more like a Kerry home match at times yesterday.
I've heard plenty of different reasons for this down through the years, always seems to be something and it was the same way when Galway played the nice traditional stuff as well.
It's always been the way as far as I can remember and I've been going to Galway matches for the best part of 40 years, notable exception being late 90s and early 00s for obvious reasons.  The hurling support had actually dwindled quite a lot in the late 90s so it's not surprising to see it all linked to relative success I guess.  Anyway, it is what is right now but hopeful of it growing in the next couple of years! 😉
i remember us playing galway in the 1995 semi final and out of an attendance of 37k there was def less than 5k from galway. was shocking. they won the ai 3 years later and had plenty of supporters.lol
I dunno
Maybe if Tyrone had a few more all Irelands the attendance patterns might be different.  :o
Tyrone had zero all Irelands in 95 and Galway had a few passengers on the team. 
History gives a different perspective on mediocrity. Tyrone are at a different stage of development. 

Ni uasal agus iseal ach thuas seal agus thios seal   

Yeah, Galway supporters in 1995 must have been blasé about winning Sam Maguire given the fact that they won it 29 years previously.

You know when the team isn't good enough. Nobody expected to win that semi as far as I was concerned. It was good to win Connacht and we had a good day out in Dublin.
But I remember talking to my father's uncles about the football when I was a teenager. And he said that when they got a good team together down past Clonberne they could beat anyone .
And that has a pedigree. Donnellan was on the 98 team. His father and grandfather won all Irelands before him.

So you might find Mayo posters laughing about how shite Galway have been over the last 15 years. And they have been abysmal
But when they get a team going they can go all the way. And not many other counties can say that. Down can also do it.  The Galway hurlers can't do it BTW
Mayo leave it behind them as well.

It remains to be seen if Tyrone can deliver on demand

You do realise of course that that is very close to a lot of ideologies you would find unpalatable in another context?   
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on March 01, 2019, 12:11:42 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 28, 2019, 10:12:12 PM
Galway team for Saturday evening named:

1. Ruairí Lavelle
2. Eoghan Kerin
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
4. David Wynne
5. Gary O Donnell
6. Gareth Bradshaw
7. Johnny Heaney
8. Thomas Flynn
9. Ciaran Duggan
10. Michael Daly
11. Johnny Duane
12. Eamonn Brannigan
13. Barry McHugh
14. Pádraic Cunningham
15. Antaine Ó Laoi

Might we get a shock and have no changes prior to the throw in?

Corofin alone would be strong favourites versus that side and that's no exaggeration. Horan must be beside himself
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on March 01, 2019, 12:34:56 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on March 01, 2019, 12:11:42 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 28, 2019, 10:12:12 PM
Galway team for Saturday evening named:

1. Ruairí Lavelle
2. Eoghan Kerin
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
4. David Wynne
5. Gary O Donnell
6. Gareth Bradshaw
7. Johnny Heaney
8. Thomas Flynn
9. Ciaran Duggan
10. Michael Daly
11. Johnny Duane
12. Eamonn Brannigan
13. Barry McHugh
14. Pádraic Cunningham
15. Antaine Ó Laoi

Might we get a shock and have no changes prior to the throw in?

Corofin alone would be strong favourites versus that side and that's no exaggeration. Horan must be beside himself

What will your starting one to nine look like come the summer ?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 01, 2019, 12:52:14 AM
9 of that published Galway team Ruairi Lavelle; Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh, Eoghan Kerin; Gary O'Donnell, Gareth Bradshaw, Thomas Flynn, Ciarán Duggan; Johnny Heaney;Barry McHugh were all championship starters against Mayo last summer and Michael Daly,Eamonn Brannigan,David Wynne have started in previous championship wins against Mayo.

So for all those injuries Galway have that is still experienced line up and the form team in Div one Kerry just about got over the line against them last weekend.




Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 01, 2019, 10:15:33 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 01, 2019, 12:34:56 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on March 01, 2019, 12:11:42 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 28, 2019, 10:12:12 PM
Galway team for Saturday evening named:

1. Ruairí Lavelle
2. Eoghan Kerin
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
4. David Wynne
5. Gary O Donnell
6. Gareth Bradshaw
7. Johnny Heaney
8. Thomas Flynn
9. Ciaran Duggan
10. Michael Daly
11. Johnny Duane
12. Eamonn Brannigan
13. Barry McHugh
14. Pádraic Cunningham
15. Antaine Ó Laoi

Might we get a shock and have no changes prior to the throw in?

Corofin alone would be strong favourites versus that side and that's no exaggeration. Horan must be beside himself

What will your starting one to nine look like come the summer ?

I'd like to see

1. Lavelle
2. Kerin
3. Sean Andy
4. Silke
5. Molloy
6. Bradshaw
7. Sean Kelly
8. Flynn
9. Duggan/Conroy/Cooke. See how the league goes
10. McDaid
11. Daly.
12. Heaney
13. Walsh
14. Comer
15. Burke

Can see Walsh going with Kyne in the corner and Silke moving to wing half instead of Molloy and playing an extra midfielder ahead of McDaid.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 01, 2019, 10:51:12 AM
If I may intrude on this Galway thread.....
I suppose well be doing well to keep the margin below 20 points on Sunday  :-\
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 01, 2019, 11:23:18 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 01, 2019, 10:51:12 AM
If I may intrude on this Galway thread.....
I suppose well be doing well to keep the margin below 20 points on Sunday  :-\

Dublin are a different animal outside a neutral venue such as Croke Park. Dublin are presently minding themselves for bigger days out. I expect the Rossies to be within 6 of them!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 01, 2019, 01:49:54 PM
Awful how poor Dublin never get a home game  ;D
And when someone proposes they do Costello and the GAA top brass ket fly with both barrels.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 01, 2019, 02:12:15 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 01, 2019, 11:23:18 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 01, 2019, 10:51:12 AM
If I may intrude on this Galway thread.....
I suppose well be doing well to keep the margin below 20 points on Sunday  :-\

Dublin are a different animal outside a neutral venue such as Croke Park. Dublin are presently minding themselves for bigger days out. I expect the Rossies to be within 6 of them!

Croke Park's near perfect playing pitch surface suits Dublin down to the ground while on their travels they are a different animal as they face softer,poorer and smaller pitches but no such problems for Dublin this weekend as the new Hyde Park pitch should be ideal for them.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 01, 2019, 03:14:43 PM
Time to move it to Carrick again ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on March 01, 2019, 05:21:52 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 01, 2019, 12:34:56 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on March 01, 2019, 12:11:42 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 28, 2019, 10:12:12 PM
Galway team for Saturday evening named:

1. Ruairí Lavelle
2. Eoghan Kerin
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
4. David Wynne
5. Gary O Donnell
6. Gareth Bradshaw
7. Johnny Heaney
8. Thomas Flynn
9. Ciaran Duggan
10. Michael Daly
11. Johnny Duane
12. Eamonn Brannigan
13. Barry McHugh
14. Pádraic Cunningham
15. Antaine Ó Laoi

Might we get a shock and have no changes prior to the throw in?

Corofin alone would be strong favourites versus that side and that's no exaggeration. Horan must be beside himself

What will your starting one to nine look like come the summer ?

There'd be 4 or 5 changes from that if I was guessing. It's more to do with the forwards. Walsh, Comer & Burke are by far and away our 3 best players, all missing. You could make a strong argument that Silke is next after those. It's at least 8 starters overall
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on March 01, 2019, 08:54:18 PM
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Chris Barrett - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
12. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber(C)
13. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
14. Darren Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
15. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on March 01, 2019, 08:56:12 PM

Hmmmm. Interesting.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 01, 2019, 09:39:54 PM
Quote from: moysider on March 01, 2019, 08:56:12 PM

Hmmmm. Interesting.

That's one word to describe it. Interesting to see how Darren Coen and James Durcan will do if both teams start as selected. I know it's only the league, but we need to beat Galway. Would I be right in saying Mayo teams at all levels haven't beaten Galway opposition since 2015?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 01, 2019, 10:13:04 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 01, 2019, 09:39:54 PM
Quote from: moysider on March 01, 2019, 08:56:12 PM

Hmmmm. Interesting.

That's one word to describe it. Interesting to see how Darren Coen and James Durcan will do if both teams start as selected. I know it's only the league, but we need to beat Galway. Would I be right in saying Mayo teams at all levels haven't beaten Galway opposition since 2015?

I'd be fairly surprised if ye don't win tomorrow anyway for some of those reasons. Don't think it'll mean much come the Summer either way as there will be so many changes come June.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on March 01, 2019, 10:29:20 PM
A yellow wind warning in Castlebar tomorrow evening. South/South West winds are forecast. Should be blowing straight into the goals at the bacon factory end.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on March 01, 2019, 11:13:54 PM
Coen is an interesting starter out of nowhere
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on March 02, 2019, 12:54:43 AM
With a yellow wind warning the game will be called off and played on Sunday unless the forecast changes, after the conditions the ros game was played in they surely cannot risk it again, it was lucky for both players and supporters that no one was injured that night.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 02, 2019, 10:55:11 AM
Serious rain here in Ballina for the past hour or so. If it's like this al day, the pitch will be muck, never mind the supporters!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 02, 2019, 11:04:30 AM
The weather is absolutely wicked bad. Any chance the match could called off?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rudi on March 02, 2019, 11:25:35 AM
Pointless playing ball in conditions like that. Game is a lottery, supporters can't enjoy.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on March 02, 2019, 11:50:03 AM
I would be very surprised if the game is not rescheduled to tomorrow afternoon - weather is atrocious today and can't imagine the pitch being in much of a state for football by this evening.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on March 02, 2019, 02:41:25 PM
Clear skies around the county at the moment but some serious gales. Will be as bad as the Roscommon game if not worse.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: spuds on March 02, 2019, 04:25:32 PM
Winds not abating here in central Mayo. It's dry though.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 02, 2019, 05:51:42 PM
The subs for tonights encounter in Castlebar according to the program

Galway
M Breathnach
G Armstrong
L Boyle
P Cooke
D Cummins
D Cunnane
J Daly
C Darcy
R Finnerty
F O'Curraoin
F O'Laoi

Mayo
M Slingerman
D Drake
E O'Donoghue
M Plunkett
J McCormack
F Boland
C O'Shea
K McLoughlin
A Moran
J Carr
B Reape
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 02, 2019, 07:13:31 PM
J Daly,D Cummins,S Walsh,P Cooke all starting for Galway. Mayo playing as selected.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 02, 2019, 07:32:29 PM
15 mins played. Mayo 0-2 Galway 0-5. Looks like one of those games where scoring from play against that wind is near impossible. Cummins showing well for Galway.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 02, 2019, 07:37:18 PM
M Daly and B McHugh black carded within a minute. Mayo 0-3 Galway 0-5 20 mins played.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on March 02, 2019, 07:39:10 PM
2 black cards in 2 minutes for galway. 1st one was a joke. He pulled back the mayo player but didnt pull him down. 2nd one was a stupid trip.

Galway have kicked some brilliant points. Painful watching Mayo forwards playimg against the blanket. No convicton there at all
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 02, 2019, 07:42:41 PM
Goal for 13 man Galway. Mayo 0-3 Galway 1-6. 25 mins gone.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 02, 2019, 07:56:25 PM
Half time. Mayo 0-3 Galway 1-7.  The tribesmen good value for that lead. Mayo have the strong wind advantage now and would expect a big improvement from them.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 02, 2019, 07:58:53 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 02, 2019, 07:56:25 PM
Half time. Mayo 0-3 Galway 1-7.  The tribesmen good value for that lead. Mayo have the strong wind advantage now and would expect a big improvement from them.

7 points and more can definitely be pulled back in that gale. Galway probably did well enough to salvage the half after playing 10 minutes with 13 players. Looked like they might only have a 3 point lead at one point.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on March 02, 2019, 07:59:45 PM
HT Galway ahead 1-7 to 0-3. Mayo haven't scored in about 20 min and didn't score anything from play. Strong wind in mayo's favour in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 02, 2019, 08:02:07 PM
Absolutely terrible from Mayo in that first half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 02, 2019, 08:06:20 PM
This wind is very very strong.
Game of two halves I feel.
7 point lead not huge tonight.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: joemamas on March 02, 2019, 08:08:45 PM
We are and unfortunately will for some time pay dearly for our lack of forwards.
Not all James Horan's fault.
It is time that Mayo took a long term approach to this problem.
If you cannot kick the ball over the bar from a minimum of 30 yards, you should not be selected for a county panel.
I am sure all these lads put in a ton of time and effort, I will not criticize that but some of them are just not up to it at county level.

Stephen Coen inside 21 in front of goals does not have the confidence to kick,
Matthew Ruane effort, you would not see it in a junior B game.
Jason Doherty nightmare effort of a pass with a clear goal on.

Very frustrating to watch.
Not panicking but
I hope it improves
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: twohands!!! on March 02, 2019, 08:08:48 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 02, 2019, 07:39:10 PM
2 black cards in 2 minutes for galway. 1st one was a joke. He pulled back the mayo player but didnt pull him down. 2nd one was a stupid trip.

Galway have kicked some brilliant points. Painful watching Mayo forwards playimg against the blanket. No convicton there at all

The 1st one was a textbook black card for deliberately colliding with an opponent for the purpose of taking the player out of the movement of the play.

Quote5.12 To deliberately collide with an opponent after he has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking him out of the movement of play.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oliverkelly on March 02, 2019, 08:13:32 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 02, 2019, 08:08:48 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 02, 2019, 07:39:10 PM
2 black cards in 2 minutes for galway. 1st one was a joke. He pulled back the mayo player but didnt pull him down. 2nd one was a stupid trip.

Galway have kicked some brilliant points. Painful watching Mayo forwards playimg against the blanket. No convicton there at all

The 1st one was a textbook black card for deliberately colliding with an opponent for the purpose of taking the player out of the movement of the play.

Quote5.12 To deliberately collide with an opponent after he has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking him out of the movement of play.
He didn't collide with him though. He gave him a little tug. To be delibertately collide is a body check. Which the incident wasnt. Deegan a very poor ref and always has been
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on March 02, 2019, 08:14:35 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 02, 2019, 08:08:48 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 02, 2019, 07:39:10 PM
2 black cards in 2 minutes for galway. 1st one was a joke. He pulled back the mayo player but didnt pull him down. 2nd one was a stupid trip.

Galway have kicked some brilliant points. Painful watching Mayo forwards playimg against the blanket. No convicton there at all

The 1st one was a textbook black card for deliberately colliding with an opponent for the purpose of taking the player out of the movement of the play.

Quote5.12 To deliberately collide with an opponent after he has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking him out of the movement of play.

He pulled Higgins back by the jersey and to me thats not a black card. Surprised Andy Moran isn't on as Mayo had no leadership in the forwards
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 02, 2019, 08:15:30 PM
Mayo finally off the mark from play one minute into the 2nd half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 02, 2019, 08:23:30 PM
Deegan fairly good to Galway.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 02, 2019, 08:23:36 PM
45 mins played. Mayo 0-5 Galway 1-8.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: joemamas on March 02, 2019, 08:25:54 PM
Deegan is an Asshole
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oliverkelly on March 02, 2019, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 02, 2019, 08:23:30 PM
Deegan fairly good to Galway.

Second half first few Mayo frees were very soft as was first black for galway
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on March 02, 2019, 08:26:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 02, 2019, 08:23:30 PM
Deegan fairly good to Galway.

Mayo no 10 took out a galway player off the ball. He seen it and played advantage but didnt go back to give him the black card he should have got.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on March 02, 2019, 08:28:04 PM
Every single 50/50 call going to Galway
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 02, 2019, 08:28:54 PM
50 mins played. Mayo 0-7 Galway 1-8.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 02, 2019, 08:30:11 PM
We have zero f**king kickout strategy.
It's gone beyond a joke at this stage
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 02, 2019, 08:34:30 PM
56 mins gone. Mayo 0-10 Galway 1-8. Mayo with the strong wind and all of the momentum look the likely winners now.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on March 02, 2019, 08:36:27 PM
Galwayare clueless when it come to kick outs. No leadership or players looking for the ball. Mayo players getting some soft frees in the forwards.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 02, 2019, 08:36:40 PM
Galway's discipline in the tackle letting them down now.
Can't make the ball stuck up front at all.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 02, 2019, 08:37:01 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 02, 2019, 08:30:11 PM
We have zero f**king kickout strategy.
It's gone beyond a joke at this stage

Just pile everyone onto one wing and boot it out to them seems to be it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on March 02, 2019, 08:38:27 PM
Now he's giving all the 50/50 calls to Mayo
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 02, 2019, 08:39:10 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 02, 2019, 08:36:40 PM
Galway's discipline in the tackle letting them down now.
Can't make the ball stuck up front at all.

Shane Walsh missing that simple free (even into the wind) was a bit of a turning point.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 02, 2019, 08:40:47 PM
Tyrone 1-15 Cavan 0-09 a result.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 02, 2019, 08:42:14 PM
Galway's first score for ages, they lead by 2 points. 64 mins gone. Mayo 0-10 Galway 1-9
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 02, 2019, 08:46:20 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 02, 2019, 08:38:27 PM
Now he's giving all the 50/50 calls to Mayo
Complete turnaround from Maurice alright.
Strange performance from him
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 02, 2019, 08:55:04 PM
FT Mayo 0-12 Galway 1-11.  Galway's winning run against Mayo continues. The 1-1 scored when down to 13 men was key. 

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on March 02, 2019, 08:59:57 PM
Deegan bottled it by not sending off Boyle when he punched Shane Walsh in the face. Galway should also have been made substitute him as well. GAA really are clueless when dealing with head injuries.

Mayo forwards made some terrible decisons when they got it back to 1 point and especially in the last 10 min and injury time. No 14 Coen kicked 2 awful wides but he wasnt on his own.

Galways forwards were that bit better in first half at kickimg points
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 02, 2019, 09:14:12 PM
Only the league but a great win considering I thought there was only one winner when Mayo got it back to one point with 20 minutes to go with a howling gale behind them.

A O'Laoi very impressive especially in the first half. Tidy little player.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on March 02, 2019, 09:17:23 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 02, 2019, 08:59:57 PM
Deegan bottled it by not sending off Boyle when he punched Shane Walsh in the face. Galway should also have been made substitute him as well. GAA really are clueless when dealing with head injuries.

Mayo forwards made some terrible decisons when they got it back to 1 point and especially in the last 10 min and injury time. No 14 Coen kicked 2 awful wides but he wasnt on his own.

Galways forwards were that bit better in first half at kickimg points

Would have been pretty harsh to give a red card for that, but you couldn't complain too much if you got it at the same time

He tried to aggressively slap the ball out of his hands just as the guy turned into him
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 02, 2019, 09:23:51 PM
Mayo should be safe from relegation. Looks like the Rossies and Cavan will go down. We'll probably get our hole on a plate in Killarney in two weeks time. From the last two outings the GAA will have to do some trickery to maneuver Mayo and their loyal following into the Super 8's this year to help bump up their coffers. Then again it's only the League and Dads Army might be like the 2012-2017 model come summer?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 02, 2019, 09:26:38 PM
Forwards particularly frustrating. Darren Coen was terrible as was James Durcan but he got taken off. Boyle at fault for the goal, not tracking his man. Keegan had another underwhelming performance. Harrison was poor, but Shane Walsh was excellent. Higgins did ok at mopping up balls.

Ruane probably the best out field player for us tonight. Showed well and got a good point in the second half after two bad wides in the first half. Dunno what to make of Vaughan. Never puts in 2 good performances in a row. Poor from him tonight I thought. Diarmuid was poor in my opinion. AOS was bottled up, he's going to be against good teams though. Horan must implement a plan B for him as he's only handpassing laterally when he's not.

Andy didn't do much when he came on. Terribly disappointing night. Have a bit of a sickness so I couldn't go this evening. Galway's stranglehold continues over us.

Two tests, two losses. Kerry up next in a fortnight.  :-X
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on March 02, 2019, 10:44:39 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 02, 2019, 09:26:38 PM
Forwards particularly frustrating. Darren Coen was terrible as was James Durcan but he got taken off. Boyle at fault for the goal, not tracking his man. Keegan had another underwhelming performance. Harrison was poor, but Shane Walsh was excellent. Higgins did ok at mopping up balls.

Ruane probably the best out field player for us tonight. Showed well and got a good point in the second half after two bad wides in the first half. Dunno what to make of Vaughan. Never puts in 2 good performances in a row. Poor from him tonight I thought. Diarmuid was poor in my opinion. AOS was bottled up, he's going to be against good teams though. Horan must implement a plan B for him as he's only handpassing laterally when he's not.

Andy didn't do much when he came on. Terribly disappointing night. Have a bit of a sickness so I couldn't go this evening. Galway's stranglehold continues over us.

Two tests, two losses. Kerry up next in a fortnight.  :-X

I understand you were not there Farr. and it must have been very hard watch on tv. It was another horrible night for football . Let's put that out there to start. Would we would have done any better if we had wind advantage in first half? - I doubt it.

Galway were much more at it and deserved the win over the context of the match. That has to be said. We have to suck it up and so does Horan and the players. Even though Galway picked up 2 sin bins, it was our poor discipline that cost us the game imo. Discipline as regards unnecessary rashness in the tackle and just crazy decision making in possession. Decision making last week against the Dubs was poor and it was bad again tonight.
Very disappointing. I cannot imagine any other team that would have lost that game tonight with 10 to go. Game back to a point, playing at home. a gale in our favour and we could not see it out. I'm sorry - and with all due respect to Galway's great shift, a division 4 team would have managed a win in those circumstances.

Horan's second honeymoon is over. His job starts now.
That Cooke fella was my mom.  Johnny Heaney was very good as well. Congrats the Galway lads on here.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 02, 2019, 11:00:33 PM
Quote from: moysider on March 02, 2019, 10:44:39 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 02, 2019, 09:26:38 PM
Forwards particularly frustrating. Darren Coen was terrible as was James Durcan but he got taken off. Boyle at fault for the goal, not tracking his man. Keegan had another underwhelming performance. Harrison was poor, but Shane Walsh was excellent. Higgins did ok at mopping up balls.

Ruane probably the best out field player for us tonight. Showed well and got a good point in the second half after two bad wides in the first half. Dunno what to make of Vaughan. Never puts in 2 good performances in a row. Poor from him tonight I thought. Diarmuid was poor in my opinion. AOS was bottled up, he's going to be against good teams though. Horan must implement a plan B for him as he's only handpassing laterally when he's not.

Andy didn't do much when he came on. Terribly disappointing night. Have a bit of a sickness so I couldn't go this evening. Galway's stranglehold continues over us.

Two tests, two losses. Kerry up next in a fortnight.  :-X

I understand you were not there Farr. and it must have been very hard watch on tv. It was another horrible night for football . Let's put that out there to start. Would we would have done any better if we had wind advantage in first half? - I doubt it.

Galway were much more at it and deserved the win over the context of the match. That has to be said. We have to suck it up and so does Horan and the players. Even though Galway picked up 2 sin bins, it was our poor discipline that cost us the game imo. Discipline as regards unnecessary rashness in the tackle and just crazy decision making in possession. Decision making last week against the Dubs was poor and it was bad again tonight.
Very disappointing. I cannot imagine any other team that would have lost that game tonight with 10 to go. Game back to a point, playing at home. a gale in our favour and we could not see it out. I'm sorry - and with all due respect to Galway's great shift, a division 4 team would have managed a win in those circumstances.

Horan's second honeymoon is over. His job starts now.
That Cooke fella was my mom.  Johnny Heaney was very good as well. Congrats the Galway lads on here.

There was never going to be a honeymoon for Horan. Many people expected him to rejuvenate rather than rebuild. In other words hold onto as many of the old guard and add as many new faces as possible.  The old guard are getting nearer to the end and the new replacements are not coming through in the numbers to replace them. This is only natural when you have a special group, happened to Donegal, Tyrone, Galway, Cork, Armagh the last 20 years or so.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on March 02, 2019, 11:32:04 PM
Very very deflating performance from Cavan today. Nothing you could take out of it as a positive. We lay down when Clarke got sent off. I hadnt a great view but seemed like two soft enough yellows to me. However Clarke is continuously letting us down with his lack of discipline, black cards, red cards and mouthing getting frees brought forward etc. Hes one of our senior players and would want to cop himself on. Tyrone were not great in an attacking sense but mean in defence. Serious point from Kyle Coney today, if Sunday game show it it is worth a look.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on March 02, 2019, 11:35:58 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 02, 2019, 11:00:33 PM
Quote from: moysider on March 02, 2019, 10:44:39 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 02, 2019, 09:26:38 PM
Forwards particularly frustrating. Darren Coen was terrible as was James Durcan but he got taken off. Boyle at fault for the goal, not tracking his man. Keegan had another underwhelming performance. Harrison was poor, but Shane Walsh was excellent. Higgins did ok at mopping up balls.

Ruane probably the best out field player for us tonight. Showed well and got a good point in the second half after two bad wides in the first half. Dunno what to make of Vaughan. Never puts in 2 good performances in a row. Poor from him tonight I thought. Diarmuid was poor in my opinion. AOS was bottled up, he's going to be against good teams though. Horan must implement a plan B for him as he's only handpassing laterally when he's not.

Andy didn't do much when he came on. Terribly disappointing night. Have a bit of a sickness so I couldn't go this evening. Galway's stranglehold continues over us.

Two tests, two losses. Kerry up next in a fortnight.  :-X

I understand you were not there Farr. and it must have been very hard watch on tv. It was another horrible night for football . Let's put that out there to start. Would we would have done any better if we had wind advantage in first half? - I doubt it.

Galway were much more at it and deserved the win over the context of the match. That has to be said. We have to suck it up and so does Horan and the players. Even though Galway picked up 2 sin bins, it was our poor discipline that cost us the game imo. Discipline as regards unnecessary rashness in the tackle and just crazy decision making in possession. Decision making last week against the Dubs was poor and it was bad again tonight.
Very disappointing. I cannot imagine any other team that would have lost that game tonight with 10 to go. Game back to a point, playing at home. a gale in our favour and we could not see it out. I'm sorry - and with all due respect to Galway's great shift, a division 4 team would have managed a win in those circumstances.

Horan's second honeymoon is over. His job starts now.
That Cooke fella was my mom.  Johnny Heaney was very good as well. Congrats the Galway lads on here.

There was never going to be a honeymoon for Horan. Many people expected him to rejuvenate rather than rebuild. In other words hold onto as many of the old guard and add as many new faces as possible.  The old guard are getting nearer to the end and the new replacements are not coming through in the numbers to replace them. This is only natural when you have a special group, happened to Donegal, Tyrone, Galway, Cork, Armagh the last 20 years or so.

I'm sorry Bunker but you've lost me there?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 02, 2019, 11:48:08 PM
So it's Kerry v Galway/Dublin or maybe Tyrone in the Final.
Relegated - us and the loser of Cavan/Monaghan :-\.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 02, 2019, 11:49:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 02, 2019, 11:48:08 PM
So it's Kerry v Galway/Dublin or maybe Tyrone in the Final.
Relegated - us and the loser of Cavan/Monaghan :-\.

A Mayo in the middle in neither camp!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 02, 2019, 11:55:37 PM
6 points should see ye safe enough alright.
Tymoan have to play Galway and Dublin I think so that's a little qualification mini league of its own.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 03, 2019, 12:20:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 02, 2019, 11:48:08 PM
So it's Kerry v Galway/Dublin or maybe Tyrone in the Final.
Relegated - us and the loser of Cavan/Monaghan :-\.
Cavan.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on March 03, 2019, 01:33:26 AM
Conceding a goal like that with 2 extra players is scandalous. Dunno why Michael Plunkett was dropped for the last 2 games, he'd been settling in well. Keegan and Boyle are way off their best. Conor Diskin looked promising in the opening 2 games but he's dropped off the scene completely.

Horan is rotating the team a lot but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 03, 2019, 07:48:58 AM
Quote from: MayoBuck on March 03, 2019, 01:33:26 AM
Conceding a goal like that with 2 extra players is scandalous. Dunno why Michael Plunkett was dropped for the last 2 games, he'd been settling in well. Keegan and Boyle are way off their best. Conor Diskin looked promising in the opening 2 games but he's dropped off the scene completely.

Horan is rotating the team a lot but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.
Boyle to me looked completely off the pace last season.
He doesn't seem to be able to drive forward anymore.
Last night means nothing in the context of the summer
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 03, 2019, 09:53:01 AM
Quote from: galwayman on March 03, 2019, 07:48:58 AM
Quote from: MayoBuck on March 03, 2019, 01:33:26 AM
Conceding a goal like that with 2 extra players is scandalous. Dunno why Michael Plunkett was dropped for the last 2 games, he'd been settling in well. Keegan and Boyle are way off their best. Conor Diskin looked promising in the opening 2 games but he's dropped off the scene completely.

Horan is rotating the team a lot but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.
Boyle to me looked completely off the pace last season.
He doesn't seem to be able to drive forward anymore.
Last night means nothing in the context of the summer
I don't know
if they don't have the legs in March, when they should be fresh. By the time June comes around will they be flogged?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on March 03, 2019, 10:42:18 AM
Willie Joe's blog makes entertaining reading this morning. "Galway always target the league and will be pooped come August" after Galway beat Mayo while missing 2/3rds of their panel. "I'd rather lose than play as defensively as Galway tonight". This is a game where Galway with 13 players scored 1-1 against a Mayo side that funneled everyone back to defend that 2 man advantage. In fairness you get weirdos in every bunch, they just seem to have a high number count over there
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 03, 2019, 11:04:15 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on March 03, 2019, 10:42:18 AM
Willie Joe's blog makes entertaining reading this morning. "Galway always target the league and will be pooped come August" after Galway beat Mayo while missing 2/3rds of their panel. "I'd rather lose than play as defensively as Galway tonight". This is a game where Galway with 13 players scored 1-1 against a Mayo side that funneled everyone back to defend that 2 man advantage. In fairness you get weirdos in every bunch, they just seem to have a high number count over there

There is a slow denial going on here in Mayo. The three Connacht Championship losses to Galway in a row are seen as sort of flukes. Many don't see that the 2012-2017 group is in decline and it's just a case of adding one to five new faces and we are up and running again.  Many in Mayo  have forgotten that Mayo have fallen back into the chasing pack (if not behind) and Galway are in the chasing pack. Problem is the Chasing pack are all well behind Dublin.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on March 03, 2019, 11:12:49 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on March 03, 2019, 10:42:18 AM
Willie Joe's blog makes entertaining reading this morning. "Galway always target the league and will be pooped come August" after Galway beat Mayo while missing 2/3rds of their panel. "I'd rather lose than play as defensively as Galway tonight". This is a game where Galway with 13 players scored 1-1 against a Mayo side that funneled everyone back to defend that 2 man advantage. In fairness you get weirdos in every bunch, they just seem to have a high number count over there

Another poster said if we had some of Carlow or Leitrim's forwards we would have an All Ireland at this stage.  ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on March 03, 2019, 11:35:40 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 03, 2019, 11:04:15 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on March 03, 2019, 10:42:18 AM
Willie Joe's blog makes entertaining reading this morning. "Galway always target the league and will be pooped come August" after Galway beat Mayo while missing 2/3rds of their panel. "I'd rather lose than play as defensively as Galway tonight". This is a game where Galway with 13 players scored 1-1 against a Mayo side that funneled everyone back to defend that 2 man advantage. In fairness you get weirdos in every bunch, they just seem to have a high number count over there

There is a slow denial going on here in Mayo. The three Connacht Championship losses to Galway in a row are seen as sort of flukes. Many don't see that the 2012-2017 group is in decline and it's just a case of adding one to five new faces and we are up and running again.  Many in Mayo  have forgotten that Mayo have fallen back into the chasing pack (if not behind) and Galway are in the chasing pack. Problem is the Chasing pack are all well behind Dublin.

Yeah that would be a source of frustration for me talking with Mayo mates, a general lack of acceptance that Galway might finally be on their level. The seeds of this have been sown in all the underage victories for Galway sides when they've met in the past 5 years. At the same time, hard to argue about Galway getting respect until they put it up to Dublin in the way Mayo did
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on March 03, 2019, 12:25:44 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on March 03, 2019, 01:33:26 AM
Horan is rotating the team a lot but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.

I don't know and Horan won't say but my own guess is that the League ended for Horan once Cavan were beaten and Division One status was ensured. That gave him four games against blue-chip opposition in which to look at players - four games that Stephen Rochford never had because his teams started badly in the League and had to play the veterans, meaning Rochford never got a chance to test the newer players in different positions and different conditions.

I'm not thrilled about the losing streak against Galway or the losing streak against Dublin but if you went to any Mayo fan at the start of the League and offered him or her Division One status guaranteed and four free games to look at players he or she would snap the paw off you. I'd have more faith in the players coming through this year than some of the players who didn't quite come through in recent years. Players like Ruane, Plunkett, McDonagh and one or two others. There are a few whom I'd like to see yet but guess what - two more games to do it!

Quote from: galwayman on March 03, 2019, 07:48:58 AM
Last night means nothing in the context of the summer

You know it, baby.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on March 03, 2019, 12:47:11 PM
Have Rossies names their team?
Looking to put on a small first goalscorer bet, but can't find the team
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 03, 2019, 01:14:30 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on March 03, 2019, 11:35:40 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 03, 2019, 11:04:15 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on March 03, 2019, 10:42:18 AM
Willie Joe's blog makes entertaining reading this morning. "Galway always target the league and will be pooped come August" after Galway beat Mayo while missing 2/3rds of their panel. "I'd rather lose than play as defensively as Galway tonight". This is a game where Galway with 13 players scored 1-1 against a Mayo side that funneled everyone back to defend that 2 man advantage. In fairness you get weirdos in every bunch, they just seem to have a high number count over there

There is a slow denial going on here in Mayo. The three Connacht Championship losses to Galway in a row are seen as sort of flukes. Many don't see that the 2012-2017 group is in decline and it's just a case of adding one to five new faces and we are up and running again.  Many in Mayo  have forgotten that Mayo have fallen back into the chasing pack (if not behind) and Galway are in the chasing pack. Problem is the Chasing pack are all well behind Dublin.

Yeah that would be a source of frustration for me talking with Mayo mates, a general lack of acceptance that Galway might finally be on their level. The seeds of this have been sown in all the underage victories for Galway sides when they've met in the past 5 years. At the same time, hard to argue about Galway getting respect until they put it up to Dublin in the way Mayo did
It's all the better to have the notion that Galway keep fluking results against them out there within Mayo in my opinion.

No point going overboard about the result although it's nice to keep the current run against Mayo going. It could (in all honesty should) have gone the other way and when Mayo got it back to a point game it was really their own ineptitude that cost them, it's hard to overstate how strong that breeze was, only a point down with 15+6 minutes left, you have to be clinching that. From there Mayo missed handy frees, had poor shot selection, had forward players not capable of consistent accuracy from 40 yards out etc.

No score from play for either team into the breeze tells its own tale on the conditions so all conclusions from the match have to come with a strong health warning.

For Galway Danny Cummins had a very effective game, good to see a player who's been out a lot the last two years come back to start and really make an impact.

Michael Daly needs to impose himself more within matches, he'll come up with a super score or excellent pass and then drift out of the game for too long. The ability is clearly there but he isn't becoming the fulcrum in the half forward line that I would have thought he'd be for the seniors.
Heaney was 7/8 out of 10 as usual, he's consistent day in day out for Galway, only blot on his copybook was the misplaced pass to Daly for a possible goal but that needs to be contrasted with the calm setup for Cummins.
Cooke had a good night as well, Kerin mixed the good with some daftness, the Mayo free in for charging in the second half he gave away leading to a tap over was mind blowingly stupid.

Antaine Ó Laoi had a superb first half and a fine game in general, two lovely scores - the second of which he was following up his own initial kick pass to Walsh into the corner, the pass of the night to setup the Galway goal, won a key early second half free that was pointed by taking on and beating Higgins, he even came up with a mark from a Mayo kickout.
Galway are looking for lads to stick the hand up and that's exactly what he did last night. I'm liking what I've seen from John Daly as well so far this year, nothing spectacular but he's got a nice bit about him, he even easily stood up a few Mayo players in defence which I wouldn't have expected to see at this point from him.
It's a real shame that McDaid is out for the league and not getting a similar chance to impress.

Heard news about Comer last night that was troubling with regards to availability this year even in the long term but hopefully that won't prove to be 100% accurate.

For Mayo I was very impressed with Ruane, really stood out above the other Mayo players last night, defo their MOTM.
Boyle looks done, if his loss of pace is so readily apparent on a heavy March pitch it'll only be worse on a dry flat track in the summer. He's a red card waiting to happen and could have walked for persistent fouling even before he connected with Walsh near the end.
I'm assuming Keegan isn't near the full pitch of it at the moment, although he didn't get a score from play I thought Shane Walsh gave him the run around.
Mayo still haven't found the right role for O'Shea, I have to admit that I don't know exactly what needs to be done but they aren't getting enough out of what should be one of their top players every match.

I'm sure Mayo will be a very different beast come June if they get over the Rossies but that said I also expect Galway will be as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Kurtz on March 03, 2019, 03:55:44 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 03, 2019, 11:04:15 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on March 03, 2019, 10:42:18 AM
Willie Joe's blog makes entertaining reading this morning. "Galway always target the league and will be pooped come August" after Galway beat Mayo while missing 2/3rds of their panel. "I'd rather lose than play as defensively as Galway tonight". This is a game where Galway with 13 players scored 1-1 against a Mayo side that funneled everyone back to defend that 2 man advantage. In fairness you get weirdos in every bunch, they just seem to have a high number count over there

There is a slow denial going on here in Mayo. The three Connacht Championship losses to Galway in a row are seen as sort of flukes. Many don't see that the 2012-2017 group is in decline and it's just a case of adding one to five new faces and we are up and running again.  Many in Mayo  have forgotten that Mayo have fallen back into the chasing pack (if not behind) and Galway are in the chasing pack. Problem is the Chasing pack are all well behind Dublin.

I went to see them in Croker last week
Mayo are still a pacy, and very physical team, which will get them past most sides
Dublin were technically better in every position and never looked in trouble
Today against Roscommon again they looked comfortable because of their technical ability
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on March 03, 2019, 04:46:17 PM
Last night AOS fairly dispossessed the Galway keeper as he tried to solo up the field

The ball hit the referee on the heel and was immediately retrieved by Mayo

The ref then gave a hop ball.

Was that the right decision?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oliverkelly on March 03, 2019, 04:51:26 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 03, 2019, 04:46:17 PM
Last night AOS fairly dispossessed the Galway keeper as he tried to solo up the field

The ball hit the referee on the heel and was immediately retrieved by Mayo

The ref then gave a hop ball.

Was that the right decision?

Open to correction but i think if it hits ref has be throw up regardless of circumstances
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on March 03, 2019, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on March 03, 2019, 04:51:26 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 03, 2019, 04:46:17 PM
Last night AOS fairly dispossessed the Galway keeper as he tried to solo up the field

The ball hit the referee on the heel and was immediately retrieved by Mayo

The ref then gave a hop ball.

Was that the right decision?

Open to correction but i think if it hits ref has be throw up regardless of circumstances

I'm sure aidan would claim that as a penalty to mayo and jump up and down about it
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 03, 2019, 07:12:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 01, 2019, 11:23:18 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 01, 2019, 10:51:12 AM
If I may intrude on this Galway thread.....
I suppose well be doing well to keep the margin below 20 points on Sunday  :-\

Dublin are a different animal outside a neutral venue such as Croke Park. Dublin are presently minding themselves for bigger days out. I expect the Rossies to be within 6 of them!

;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Dubhaltach on March 03, 2019, 07:18:06 PM
From a Mayo point of view, that game was lost in the period where Galway were down to 13 men. Just after the black cards, we were 2 points down, with 2 extra men. All we had to do hold on to possession, play boring football, do nothing stupid and that would have nearly taken us up to half time where we could have gone in a couple points down with the gale in the second half. Instead, we pushed forward, went looking for scores against the wind and ultimately left ourselves exposed at the back. We placed too much emphasis on Galway being down to 13, the Galway system is not based on man to man marking and they are better placed than most teams to cope with the loss of two players. By the time their 2 players came back on, they were 6 up. Game management was never Horan's strong point and it doesn't look like much has changed in that department.

We also let a 13 man Galway secure their own kickout on 2 occasions during that period, their goal came from one of them. Absolutely criminal.

Despite this, we still had opportunities to win the game in the second half. After Doherty's free that hit the post (which would have brought the sides level), it was as if we had a collective meltdown in attack. There was 15 minutes left, patience was required. Instead, we proceeded to butcher 4 scoring opportunities in a row. Andy's speculative punt, Barrett carrying the ball into traffic and 2 aimless long balls from McDonagh and Doherty. This handed the impetus back to Galway and they took it with both hands.

Galway's game management going down the home stretch was superb. Time keeping in gaelic football is a total farce at this stage but Galway exploited it to the max. There was 6 minutes of injury time and 3 of those were stoppages, yet Deegan blew up as soon as the 6 were up...jokeshop. Compare Galway's time wasting in the second half, when they were against the wind, with Mayo. Not one Mayo player tried to slow the game down in the first half when we were against the wind. Mayo need to wise up.



Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 03, 2019, 07:24:42 PM
Good effort by the rossies today, probably similar to the effort put in against Tyrone,Monaghan that earned points but the difference is Dublin are better than those two teams.

1st half with the conditions taken into account was good as any game played this year. Roscommon still have a decent chance of staying up but that Cavan result could turn out to be a killer.

Dublin v Kerry final is looking more and more likely after this weekend results.


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mouview on March 03, 2019, 08:14:06 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 03, 2019, 04:46:17 PM
Last night AOS fairly dispossessed the Galway keeper as he tried to solo up the field

The ball hit the referee on the heel and was immediately retrieved by Mayo

The ref then gave a hop ball.

Was that the right decision?

I actually thought the ball ran loose and was about to be picked up by a Galway player.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on March 03, 2019, 09:05:50 PM
Quote from: mouview on March 03, 2019, 08:14:06 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 03, 2019, 04:46:17 PM
Last night AOS fairly dispossessed the Galway keeper as he tried to solo up the field

The ball hit the referee on the heel and was immediately retrieved by Mayo

The ref then gave a hop ball.

Was that the right decision?

I actually thought the ball ran loose and was about to be picked up by a Galway player.

Hmm....I was fuming because Mayo were in possession and the keeper was 30 yards from his own  goal

I'll see if I can watch it back
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: SouthDublinBro on March 03, 2019, 09:14:55 PM
I'm not one to stick up for Monaghan or the Ulster teams, but I've heard from a few people that the ref rode them today. Possible vested interest in Monaghan losing from a Rossie ref?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on March 03, 2019, 09:35:55 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on March 03, 2019, 09:14:55 PM
I'm not one to stick up for Monaghan or the Ulster teams, but I've heard from a few people that the ref rode them today. Possible vested interest in Monaghan losing from a Rossie ref?

Haven't seen it but i'm good firends with someone who was at it and he said the same. Didnt think monaghan would get anything today anyway but a dodgy ref wouldnt help their cause
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 03, 2019, 09:48:47 PM
We have it a good rattle for about 40 minutes today buy began to run out of steam after that plus Dublin kept us contained in our own half when we had the ball.
If only we had delivered a performance last week.......
Still we got the margin down from 14 last August to 5 today so we must be making a biteen of progress anyway.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: criostlinn on March 03, 2019, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 03, 2019, 09:05:50 PM
Quote from: mouview on March 03, 2019, 08:14:06 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 03, 2019, 04:46:17 PM
Last night AOS fairly dispossessed the Galway keeper as he tried to solo up the field

The ball hit the referee on the heel and was immediately retrieved by Mayo

The ref then gave a hop ball.

Was that the right decision?

I actually thought the ball ran loose and was about to be picked up by a Galway player.

Hmm....I was fuming because Mayo were in possession and the keeper was 30 yards from his own  goal

I'll see if I can watch it back

I could be wrong but I thought he gave a free to Galway and changed to a hop ball after the keeper deciding he wanted a bit of afters. But like most decisions Maurice Deegan makes its anyone guess what happened
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on March 03, 2019, 11:09:11 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 02, 2019, 09:26:38 PM
Forwards particularly frustrating. Darren Coen was terrible

While Coen's execution was poor (1 from 3 I think?), I thought shooting from distance like he did was exactly the right option and if we had done more of it, I think we'd have won. DOC, keegan, Boyle, Higgins and Barrett all passed up opportunities to kick from the 45. With the wind that was in it, we should have been taking them on. Even if they didn't all go over, it would have pulled the Galway backs out 5-10m and left a little more space inside.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on March 03, 2019, 11:44:00 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on March 03, 2019, 09:14:55 PM
I'm not one to stick up for Monaghan or the Ulster teams, but I've heard from a few people that the ref rode them today. Possible vested interest in Monaghan losing from a Rosie trf/quote]
What a stupid accusation to make  :'(
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: weareros on March 04, 2019, 02:35:34 AM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on March 03, 2019, 09:14:55 PM
I'm not one to stick up for Monaghan or the Ulster teams, but I've heard from a few people that the ref rode them today. Possible vested interest in Monaghan losing from a Rossie ref?

Well the Kerry ref in HYde gave ye everything; they must want to bate ye in the final!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on March 04, 2019, 09:59:34 AM
Quote from: MayoBuck on March 03, 2019, 01:33:26 AM
Conceding a goal like that with 2 extra players is scandalous. Dunno why Michael Plunkett was dropped for the last 2 games, he'd been settling in well. Keegan and Boyle are way off their best. Conor Diskin looked promising in the opening 2 games but he's dropped off the scene completely.

Horan is rotating the team a lot but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.

I think Boyle looks fitter than he did last year, but the two of them seem more interested these days in the big hits, rather than the driving runs.

Ruane seems a great find for Mayo. Although would be far better playing O'Connor alongside him.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 04, 2019, 11:03:28 AM
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Kerry

With a 100% record from their opening 5 games, Kerry are odds on to contest the March 31st final. A point from either of their last two games against Mayo (H) and Roscommon (A) guarantees their spot, as would any two of Mayo, Dublin and Galway dropping points. However, should the Kingdom lose both games they could still miss out on points difference.

Dublin

Given their superior points difference, wins in both their remaining games against Tyrone and Cavan should see the Dubs reach another league final on Jim Gavin's watch. Defeat or a draw in either game will mean the current holders will be relying on results elsewhere.

Mayo

It's Mayo's game against Kerry that has the potential to throw the cat amongst the pigeons. Should Mayo win and follow that up with a win over Monaghan, they'd find themselves on ten points. Although the first tie-breaker for teams level on points should be the head to head result, the possibility of Dublin, Galway, Mayo and possibly even Kerry ending up level on points means that points difference would be used to split the teams. Two big wins would be needed to bridge that current gap.

Galway

Galway are the fourth outfit with the potential to reach ten points by beating Roscommon and Tyrone. But with a negative points difference of -7, it'd be a huge ask for the Tribesmen to make the difference up. However, a loss for Dublin in either game could open the door.   

Tyrone

Mickey Harte's men are already relying on other results to go their way to have any chance of a top two finish. Wins over Dublin and Galway would bring them to nine points while also meaning that both of their rivals would max out on eight. In that case, a loss for Mayo in either game could see Tyrone sneak in.

Roscommon

With only three points so far, Roscommon's focus is on avoiding the drop. Despite the potential to reach seven points with two wins, the other fixtures mean that at least one of Dublin, Tyrone or Galway will finish above them. One win to take them to five points should see them safe.

Cavan

The Brefni county have endured a torrid campaign to date with a big win over Roscommon their only points on the board.  A relegation four-pointer against Monaghan next week is a must win ahead of a visit from the All-Ireland champions to finish.

Monaghan

It's been a very disappointing campaign for Monaghan so far and one they surely didn't see coming. A win against Cavan could set them up for a get out of jail clash with a Mayo side who may have nothing to play for after their visit to Kerry. But a Mayo win over Kerry has the potential to make things very difficult for the Farney boys.

Remaining fixtures

16/03/19

Dublin v Tyrone

Galway v Roscommon

Kerry v Mayo

Monaghan v Cavan

24/03/19

Cavan v Dublin

Mayo v Monaghan

Roscommon v Kerry

Tyrone v Galway

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/allianz-national-football-league-permutations-its-two-from-five-with-kerry-and-dublin-favourites-to-make-final-37873770.html
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 04, 2019, 03:32:10 PM
The pitch in Killarney was in a shocking state after the hurlers played a game before the main event. Despite that act of madness and the weather, the game was decent quality. Kerry look very fit and managed to get enough momentum to finish the game strongly, albeit with a helping hand from the ref who manfully carried some of the load for Kerry.

Monaghan lost most every throw up ball situation, midfield and and kick outs. Despit that the Monaghan team put in an  astonishing amount of effort to compensate for those deficits and Drew Wiley's dwarfish stature  vis a vis  iron man Tommy Walsh. To be 2 and 3 points up around the 55th min before wilting was impressive and rallying to be only a point down nearing the end of normal time.
Unfortunately it does not look like last year's emerging midfield talent  Niall Kearns will make an appearance this year
https://www.the42.ie/niall-kearns-monaghan-heart-surgery-2-4519902-Mar2019/ (https://www.the42.ie/niall-kearns-monaghan-heart-surgery-2-4519902-Mar2019/)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 04, 2019, 03:36:27 PM
I was over for the match and at the time thought Deegan was shocking, rewatched the game and wasn't bad at all. I know the Mayo fans seemed to think he gave them nothing during the first half but thats not the case at all, don't see the big issue with the so called time wasting, Lavelle took a very similar amount of time with his kickouts as Clarke did and over 6 minutes were added on to make up for the length of time Shane Walsh was down.

Shane Walsh must have been listening to Michael Meehan during the week, he wanted him to be more like Ciaran Kilkenny in his role which I thought he did; Don't think Keegan managed to get out in front of Walsh once on Saturday. Flynn was a loss for the 2nd half, Mayo had a lot of success during a 20 minute period in the 2nd half.

Galway played very well during the 1st half, were more direct and took advantage of the conditions more than they've done in the last few years, Lavelle gets a lot of stick but it was him who sent the ball over 50 yards out of the hands in the lead up to the goal. Cummins was very good, kicked a good score with his right foot and kicked a mark with his left too; Cummins & O'Laoi didn't hit any wides or drop anything short either. O'Laoi had a very good game and has really impressed me the last month, he's still very slight too so might be another 12 months before we really see the best of him but Galway have found another forward. Wyne still a bit of a liability at the back but probably had one of his better games and Kerin gave away 2 stupid free's and I mean both were idiotic, lucky not to get punished for the 2nd one as McDonagh dropped his free short. The Daly's did ok, think we'll see more from them as long as they can stay fit. Duggan was average, gives the ball away too much and lacks awareness of where an opponent is; Doesn't exactly add a lot to Galway going forward either. Cooke deserves a chance a start in the middle against Roscommon.

I'd have been delighted at the beginning of the league if you'd have told me Galway would have 6 points after 5 games with all the player we've missing and that John Daly, Cummins & O'Laoi had all showed great promise. The Galway of old would have lost that game when Mayo got back to a point down but they dug in and drove on and won a few frees to see out the game, would have been another goal if Heaney's ball to Michael Daly was better. Galway have that bit more guile and craft in the forward line which was the main difference between the sides for me.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 04, 2019, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 04, 2019, 03:36:27 PM
Galway played very well during the 1st half, were more direct and took advantage of the conditions more than they've done in the last few years, Lavelle gets a lot of stick but it was him who sent the ball over 50 yards out of the hands in the lead up to the goal. Cummins was very good, kicked a good score with his right foot and kicked a mark with his left too; Cummins & O'Laoi didn't hit any wides or drop anything short either. O'Laoi had a very good game and has really impressed me the last month, he's still very slight too so might be another 12 months before we really see the best of him but Galway have found another forward. Wyne still a bit of a liability at the back but probably had one of his better games and Kerin gave away 2 stupid free's and I mean both were idiotic, lucky not to get punished for the 2nd one as McDonagh dropped his free short. The Daly's did ok, think we'll see more from them as long as they can stay fit. Duggan was average, gives the ball away too much and lacks awareness of where an opponent is; Doesn't exactly add a lot to Galway going forward either. Cooke deserves a chance a start in the middle against Roscommon.

Was very impressed with O'Laoi on Saturday. I remember seeing play underage for Galway and to be honest while he was decent he didn't particularly stand out. I think he might have only been a sub by the time he graduated onto the U-21's after starting for the minors. Kicked 2 great points, fantastic eye of the needle pass for the goal. Was out around midfield a lot but kicked some great ball into the forwards. Quieter in the 2nd half when Galway had to defend a lot but even then he took on Higgins on the outside at one stage and forced Higgins to bring him down to win a free and even caught a Mayo kick out in midfield. Probably the only black mark against him is he ran himself into trouble a couple of times and turned over the ball. He doesn't have the size or power to burst through tacklers but you can tell he's a clever footballer. Scored a great point against Kerry last week too but he was more involved against Mayo.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on March 04, 2019, 05:31:59 PM
I was right in line with O'Laoi's pass and it was a beauty. Very inventive and superb vision. The winning of the game. His cameo at the end of the first half, ball over to Walsh, run for return, shimmy the defender and kick a score is a sign of a very classy player. Certainly needs to bulk up, so probably a year too soon alright but he has impressed no question.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on March 04, 2019, 05:36:22 PM
Quote from: Dubhaltach on March 03, 2019, 07:18:06 PM

Galway's game management going down the home stretch was superb. Time keeping in gaelic football is a total farce at this stage but Galway exploited it to the max. There was 6 minutes of injury time and 3 of those were stoppages, yet Deegan blew up as soon as the 6 were up...jokeshop. Compare Galway's time wasting in the second half, when they were against the wind, with Mayo. Not one Mayo player tried to slow the game down in the first half when we were against the wind. Mayo need to wise up.

How did he blow up when 6 were up, when Vaughan's last point was scored into the 7th min of added time, and there was two more kickouts after that? 6 mins added was more than fair in the first place. Galway didnt get that in the first half despite injuries. It's accepted practice to take the wind first and try build a lead but a past club manager of ours used to always take it for the second half, on the basis that you'd get far more added at the end of 60 (or 70) than at the end of H1. Hard argue against it
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: J70 on March 04, 2019, 05:39:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 04, 2019, 03:32:10 PM
The pitch in Killarney was in a shocking state after the hurlers played a game before the main event. Despite that act of madness and the weather, the game was decent quality. Kerry look very fit and managed to get enough momentum to finish the game strongly, albeit with a helping hand from the ref who manfully carried some of the load for Kerry.

Monaghan lost most every throw up ball situation, midfield and and kick outs. Despit that the Monaghan team put in an  astonishing amount of effort to compensate for those deficits and Drew Wiley's dwarfish stature  vis a vis  iron man Tommy Walsh. To be 2 and 3 points up around the 55th min before wilting was impressive and rallying to be only a point down nearing the end of normal time.
Unfortunately it does not look like last year's emerging midfield talent  Niall Kearns will make an appearance this year
https://www.the42.ie/niall-kearns-monaghan-heart-surgery-2-4519902-Mar2019/ (https://www.the42.ie/niall-kearns-monaghan-heart-surgery-2-4519902-Mar2019/)

Wasn't aware of Kearn's story. Good luck to him. That's a lot to be hoisted on to such a young man, but he seems to have a great attitude.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 04, 2019, 07:56:22 PM
Another boost to Dublin https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/former-all-star-fullback-rory-o-carroll-has-returned-to-dublin-1.3813781?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR0Mg-D2i_Ob_18_x21gn_13337Y1LP81pytIooBs_utGAdkOkql0TXtmsE
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 04, 2019, 08:04:34 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 04, 2019, 07:56:22 PM
Another boost to Dublin https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/former-all-star-fullback-rory-o-carroll-has-returned-to-dublin-1.3813781?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR0Mg-D2i_Ob_18_x21gn_13337Y1LP81pytIooBs_utGAdkOkql0TXtmsE

Would be some boost to them in a position where they could do with him. Long time away though so remains to be seen if he'll be any use to them this year.

Diarmuid will be back next.  ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Gael85 on March 04, 2019, 08:09:40 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 04, 2019, 07:56:22 PM
Another boost to Dublin https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/former-all-star-fullback-rory-o-carroll-has-returned-to-dublin-1.3813781?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR0Mg-D2i_Ob_18_x21gn_13337Y1LP81pytIooBs_utGAdkOkql0TXtmsE

Can't see ROC coming back to inter county. Hasn't played any ball  in four years.  Playing for Crokes will be his priority.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Dubhaltach on March 04, 2019, 09:40:42 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on March 04, 2019, 05:36:22 PM
Quote from: Dubhaltach on March 03, 2019, 07:18:06 PM

Galway's game management going down the home stretch was superb. Time keeping in gaelic football is a total farce at this stage but Galway exploited it to the max. There was 6 minutes of injury time and 3 of those were stoppages, yet Deegan blew up as soon as the 6 were up...jokeshop. Compare Galway's time wasting in the second half, when they were against the wind, with Mayo. Not one Mayo player tried to slow the game down in the first half when we were against the wind. Mayo need to wise up.

How did he blow up when 6 were up, when Vaughan's last point was scored into the 7th min of added time, and there was two more kickouts after that? 6 mins added was more than fair in the first place. Galway didnt get that in the first half despite injuries. It's accepted practice to take the wind first and try build a lead but a past club manager of ours used to always take it for the second half, on the basis that you'd get far more added at the end of 60 (or 70) than at the end of H1. Hard argue against it

According to the eir sport, Vaughan scored at 76.01. Deegan blew up on the resultant kick out. I wouldn't have a major issue with the allocated 6 minutes of injury time (although I counted 7), it's more the system I have an issue with. A stopclock, similar to rugby, would make things so much more transparent for everyone...players, officials and supporters. It would also sort out the current shit-show going on with the black card as well as lessening the burden on referees. Yet the playing rules committee managed to come up with five other changes that they deemed to be more of priority!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 04, 2019, 10:47:19 PM
Quote from: Dubhaltach on March 04, 2019, 09:40:42 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on March 04, 2019, 05:36:22 PM
Quote from: Dubhaltach on March 03, 2019, 07:18:06 PM

Galway's game management going down the home stretch was superb. Time keeping in gaelic football is a total farce at this stage but Galway exploited it to the max. There was 6 minutes of injury time and 3 of those were stoppages, yet Deegan blew up as soon as the 6 were up...jokeshop. Compare Galway's time wasting in the second half, when they were against the wind, with Mayo. Not one Mayo player tried to slow the game down in the first half when we were against the wind. Mayo need to wise up.

How did he blow up when 6 were up, when Vaughan's last point was scored into the 7th min of added time, and there was two more kickouts after that? 6 mins added was more than fair in the first place. Galway didnt get that in the first half despite injuries. It's accepted practice to take the wind first and try build a lead but a past club manager of ours used to always take it for the second half, on the basis that you'd get far more added at the end of 60 (or 70) than at the end of H1. Hard argue against it

According to the eir sport, Vaughan scored at 76.01. Deegan blew up on the resultant kick out. I wouldn't have a major issue with the allocated 6 minutes of injury time (although I counted 7), it's more the system I have an issue with. A stopclock, similar to rugby, would make things so much more transparent for everyone...players, officials and supporters. It would also sort out the current shit-show going on with the black card as well as lessening the burden on referees. Yet the playing rules committee managed to come up with five other changes that they deemed to be more of priority!
Just get rid of the black card sin bin rather than follow up with more rules in a vain attempt to enforce the exact 10 minute penalty. Teams would find other ways to run the clock down and none of them positive. The sin bin is a blight.

Is the stopclock used in all the  senior (league and championship) ladies games?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Never beat the deeler on March 04, 2019, 11:10:40 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on March 04, 2019, 05:36:22 PM
Quote from: Dubhaltach on March 03, 2019, 07:18:06 PM

Galway's game management going down the home stretch was superb. Time keeping in gaelic football is a total farce at this stage but Galway exploited it to the max. There was 6 minutes of injury time and 3 of those were stoppages, yet Deegan blew up as soon as the 6 were up...jokeshop. Compare Galway's time wasting in the second half, when they were against the wind, with Mayo. Not one Mayo player tried to slow the game down in the first half when we were against the wind. Mayo need to wise up.

How did he blow up when 6 were up, when Vaughan's last point was scored into the 7th min of added time, and there was two more kickouts after that? 6 mins added was more than fair in the first place. Galway didnt get that in the first half despite injuries. It's accepted practice to take the wind first and try build a lead but a past club manager of ours used to always take it for the second half, on the basis that you'd get far more added at the end of 60 (or 70) than at the end of H1. Hard argue against it

Interesting theory. Would be good to see ball-in-play time for both halves. Does anyone provide that stat?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 05, 2019, 08:10:49 AM
any proposed rules need to be trialed extensively, in a competition where the results matter.
as managers will find all sorts of ways to make use of rules

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 05, 2019, 12:50:39 PM
Antaine O'Laoi was dispossessed 3 or 4 times in close contact so his strength is clearly an issue but he's only been on the panel a matter of months, his younger brother looks a lot stronger and more physically developed which is a strange one. I didn't even know he was on the panel after the games against Cavan & Dublin.

GBFM man of the match was Duggan, I have no idea where they've managed to get that from.

From a Mayo point of view those states from the game don't make for good reading; Mayo got on a lot more ball, won a lot more kickouts and had 9 more shots at the posts than Galway.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 05, 2019, 01:08:10 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 05, 2019, 12:50:39 PM
GBFM man of the match was Duggan, I have no idea where they've managed to get that from.

That's a strange one. I'd say he's one of the few Galway players who's stock has actually fallen during the league. I think he's looked a bit laboured at times. I'd only have him as 4th choice midfielder now behind Cooke and Conroy (if he comes back in time and relatively the same player).
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: cornetto on March 06, 2019, 09:44:09 AM
How do people think relegation will pan out in div 1.i think the rossies might well stay up,their last game could be a dead rubber for kerry.i would not be surprised to see them get at least a pt against galway who themselves are not safe.its cavan and Monaghan for me.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 06, 2019, 10:59:23 AM
I think Galway are as good as safe now?
Even if they end on 6 only one of Cavan or Monaghan can get a max of 6 but would go down on the head to head.
If Ros or Tyrone make it 3 teams on 6 then score difference comes in.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 06, 2019, 02:13:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 06, 2019, 10:59:23 AM
I think Galway are as good as safe now?
Even if they end on 6 only one of Cavan or Monaghan can get a max of 6 but would go down on the head to head.
If Ros or Tyrone make it 3 teams on 6 then score difference comes in.

Galway still in more danger than Mayo as their points difference is + 5 and Galways is -7. Monaghan are -11, Cavan are -10 and Roscommon are -13. Mayo would need to be hammered in both games for them to have any chance of going down and even then it would take Galway & Tyrone to draw in the final game and Roscommon beating Galway & Kerry.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 06, 2019, 02:23:04 PM
You'd be fairly unlucky to go down with 6 points but it's not impossible depending on other results.

For example, Roscommon could well beat Kerry in the last game. Kerry probably in the league final by then may well rest a fair few.

If Monaghan beat Cavan then they would go to Mayo knowing a win there might potentially save them. Tougher for Cavan as they still have the Dubs to play after that.

If Galway were to lose both remaining games then I think they could easily end up relying on Mayo to do them a favour on the last day.

By the way if there is a 2 way tie on points is the decider points difference or the head to head?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 06, 2019, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 06, 2019, 02:23:04 PM
You'd be fairly unlucky to go down with 6 points but it's not impossible depending on other results.

For example, Roscommon could well beat Kerry in the last game. Kerry probably in the league final by then may well rest a fair few.

If Monaghan beat Cavan then they would go to Mayo knowing a win there might potentially save them. Tougher for Cavan as they still have the Dubs to play after that.

If Galway were to lose both remaining games then I think they could easily end up relying on Mayo to do them a favour on the last day.

By the way if there is a 2 way tie on points is the decider points difference or the head to head?

2 way tie is head to head, 3 way tie is points difference. Galway could well end up on 6 points with 2 teams they beat in Mayo & Monaghan and still go down.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Aaron Boone on March 06, 2019, 04:08:28 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 06, 2019, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 06, 2019, 02:23:04 PM
You'd be fairly unlucky to go down with 6 points but it's not impossible depending on other results.

For example, Roscommon could well beat Kerry in the last game. Kerry probably in the league final by then may well rest a fair few.

If Monaghan beat Cavan then they would go to Mayo knowing a win there might potentially save them. Tougher for Cavan as they still have the Dubs to play after that.

If Galway were to lose both remaining games then I think they could easily end up relying on Mayo to do them a favour on the last day.

By the way if there is a 2 way tie on points is the decider points difference or the head to head?

2 way tie is head to head, 3 way tie is points difference. Galway could well end up on 6 points with 2 teams they beat in Mayo & Monaghan and still go down.

No team will go down on 6 this year, it happens incredibly rarely.

The year Cork went down on 6, I think it was Down who were adrift on zero points.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 06, 2019, 04:38:10 PM
I very much doubt Kerry will rest lads for the final round
The new manager is all about systems and structure and he won't miss an opportunity to play his  preferred team together again
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 06, 2019, 05:25:54 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 06, 2019, 04:38:10 PM
I very much doubt Kerry will rest lads for the final round
The new manager is all about systems and structure and he won't miss an opportunity to play his  preferred team together again

For round 7 Kerry will have the Dr Crokes players available for selection and O'Donoghue,Clifford,Moran,P Geaney should all be back from injury so even if they rest players will they likely have a very strong team starting.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 10, 2019, 07:52:12 PM
Surely Galway won't play both games in Pearse stadium next Saturday?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 10, 2019, 08:28:57 PM
Hoping they move the football to Tuam.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 10, 2019, 08:51:42 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 10, 2019, 07:52:12 PM
Surely Galway won't play both games in Pearse stadium next Saturday?

I'd say there's every chance they will. Last round of the league in 2017 against Kildare was a double header in Salthill with the hurlers league Q-final against Waterford.
Throw in time for the football would have to change to accommodate that obviously.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 10, 2019, 10:41:16 PM
Two games, with the crowd going across the city on a Saturday afternoon
Idiots
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 10, 2019, 11:19:59 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 10, 2019, 10:41:16 PM
Two games, with the crowd going across the city on a Saturday afternoon
Idiots

Paddy's weekend too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 11, 2019, 12:40:32 PM
Vice chair of Roscommon GAA just tweeted that it'll be a double header in Pearse on Saturday with the football on second at 3.30pm. 1.30pm throw in for the hurling.
I would have much preferred the football to be on first being honest.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 11, 2019, 01:15:51 PM
I believe it's now confirmed.
Bolx anyway....doesn't suit at all.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on March 11, 2019, 01:51:32 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 11, 2019, 12:40:32 PM
Vice chair of Roscommon GAA just tweeted that it'll be a double header in Pearse on Saturday with the football on second at 3.30pm. 1.30pm throw in for the hurling.
I would have much preferred the football to be on first being honest.
The problem with playing the football first is that the ground will be every cut up and not suited for hurling. Whereas football can be played on a cut up pitch as it doesn't involved playing the ball along the ground, hurling depends very much on conditions underfoot. At least that's what I was told when I asked a few men who know more about hurling than I do.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 11, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 11, 2019, 12:40:32 PM
Vice chair of Roscommon GAA just tweeted that it'll be a double header in Pearse on Saturday with the football on second at 3.30pm. 1.30pm throw in for the hurling.
I would have much preferred the football to be on first being honest.

Could be a lot later than 3:30 for the football match if that Hurling game goes to extra time. Wasn't Monday free that hurling game?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 11, 2019, 04:22:28 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 11, 2019, 01:51:32 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 11, 2019, 12:40:32 PM
Vice chair of Roscommon GAA just tweeted that it'll be a double header in Pearse on Saturday with the football on second at 3.30pm. 1.30pm throw in for the hurling.
I would have much preferred the football to be on first being honest.
The problem with playing the football first is that the ground will be every cut up and not suited for hurling. Whereas football can be played on a cut up pitch as it doesn't involved playing the ball along the ground, hurling depends very much on conditions underfoot. At least that's what I was told when I asked a few men who know more about hurling than I do.

Ah yeah I get the logic at this time of year, the Cavan match was on second after the hurlers played Laois in the previous double header this year so not surprised at all, it just would have personally suited me if the throw in times were swapped!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: thebackbar1 on March 11, 2019, 04:29:11 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 11, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 11, 2019, 12:40:32 PM
Vice chair of Roscommon GAA just tweeted that it'll be a double header in Pearse on Saturday with the football on second at 3.30pm. 1.30pm throw in for the hurling.
I would have much preferred the football to be on first being honest.

Could be a lot later than 3:30 for the football match if that Hurling game goes to extra time. Wasn't Monday free that hurling game?
The following points need to be considered.
* If the match was fixed for monday, you would be asking stewards to give up two days, also security staff would have to be paid for two days.
* It would be unfair to switch the football to tuam as it had been advertised for salthill
* Club matches have been fixed for monday.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 11, 2019, 04:31:35 PM
Will Horan continue to pick the tried and tested/trusted  (delete as appropriate) or give the likes of Plunkett, Diskin a go against the young Kerry hoors.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: cornetto on March 12, 2019, 08:11:06 AM
With galway v wexford live on tg4 and the rugby Ireland v Wales at 2.45 it willl be hurling season ticket holders that will be in pearse stadium, so can see a mass exodus after the hurling,the rossies will have the place to themselves!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 12, 2019, 08:53:05 AM
We are true Gaels.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: cornetto on March 12, 2019, 09:15:50 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 12, 2019, 08:53:05 AM
We are true Gaels.
Wont disagree on that,don't think even if it was tuam for the football would the galway crowd travel.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on March 12, 2019, 10:28:04 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 12, 2019, 08:53:05 AM
We are true Gaels.
Ye don't even have a Gaeltacht, in ainm Chroim
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 12, 2019, 10:44:39 AM
Shabháil Dúbhglas De hÍde an theanga.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fuzzman on March 12, 2019, 10:48:26 AM
Any thoughts on the Dublin v Tyrone game this Saturday night?
I think Mickey Harte was wondering could we play all our home games there too?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on March 12, 2019, 11:05:09 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 12, 2019, 10:44:39 AM
Shabháil Dúbhglas De hÍde an theanga.
BLD
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on March 12, 2019, 11:23:13 AM
Very little chat about El Classico this weekend. My prediction, the game will not finish with 15 v 15. I think its a real 50:50 game. That normally means McManus decides who wins it. Talk about Gearoid McKiernan possibly in line to feature.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fuzzman on March 12, 2019, 11:49:48 AM
From todays' Irish News by Cahair O'Kane. I would agree
(http://www.irishnews.com/picturesarchive/irishnews/irishnews/2019/03/11/171013396-1c7a54e2-0d90-4394-a4d1-6de4fbbc1018.jpg)


OVER the past four years, Tyrone's perception among the reasonable has been altered. No team that consistently scores as highly as they do can be justifiably labelled as defensive.

That, however, doesn't make their attacking play immune to criticism. There is equally no doubt that when it's come to the big stage in recent seasons, it's been that little bit of something lacking in attack that has let them down.

What is it that's lacking exactly?

In the early part of this campaign, their whole system was failing to function. After they'd picked up just one point in three games, and registered the joint-lowest score from play across those ties (1-10) of any team in the top-flight for a decade, Mattie Donnelly was moved to full-forward.

Across the games against Cavan and Monaghan since, he touched the ball 40 times. The Trillick man's directly assisted 0-14, either by playing the final pass or drawing a free that was scored. He's had a hand in another 1-1, as well as creating four goal chances, and scored a single point from a free that was of his own making.

Crucially, he's won 16 of the 18 kick passes that have been sent his way.

_____________________

Mattie Donnelly v Monaghan, 2019 NFL
Position: Full-forward
Touches: 22
Touches in opp half: 21
Carries: 7
Carries at pace: 7
Kick passes received: 10
Kick passes won: 10
Goal chances created: 2
Frees won: 3
Possessions lost: 1
Fouls committed: 1
Scored: 0-0
Direct assists: 0-8
Indirect assists: 1-0

Mattie Donnelly v Cavan | 2019 NFL
Position: Full-forward
Touches: 18
Touches in opp half: 16
Carries: 8
Carries at pace: 8
Kick passes received: 8
Kick passes won: 6
Goal chances created: 2
Frees won: 5
Possessions lost: 0
Fouls committed: 0
Shots taken: 1
Scored: 0-1
Direct assists: 0-6
Indirect assists: 0-1
_____________________

That was the role best performed last year by Mark Bradley, who's since the left panel. Tyrone were at their most fluid as a kicking team when Bradley played.

He seldom went further than 25 yards from goal, instead making his runs side-to-side. His movement across the line would allow Tyrone to get higher up the pitch quicker, and even though Harte didn't always favour him, Bradley's was a huge influence over the last two years.

The one thing that he lacked, however, was the physical power to take on defences. Across league and championship last year, his scoring total was 2-6. Teams would keep him on the periphery by forcing him away from goal.

Mattie Donnelly is a different beast. From a physical perspective, he's exceptionally powerful. And that's been borne out in his last two games.

When he's won the ball, his first instinct is to put his head down and take on his man. Defenders don't appreciate such directness.

That's resulted in him being fouled eight times, all of them in front of goal.

He, like Bradley, wants to move across the line towards the corners. But unlike Bradley, he's shown a willingness to use his power to go down the line when he's received the ball, rather than being shepherded back infield.

Donnelly will scare defences. There'll be occasions where they have to either foul him or let him go.

And despite his lack of scores so far, lest we forget that he's one of the best finishers on the Tyrone team, with the ability to kick off left or right.

Compare his impact at full-forward to how he was influencing Tyrone's play as a sweeper at the business end of last summer.

There's an element here of comparing apples with oranges. Two early-season National League games against an All-Ireland semi-final and final, you could conceivably argue an unfair comparison.

But when you look at the former, the question is not so much 'would they have gotten more out of him at full-forward' as it is 'did they get enough out of him where he was playing'?

It's very clear from his defensive positioning and actions that his primary concern in that role is protecting Niall Morgan's goal.

When Conor McManus skipped through early on in the semi-final, it was Donnelly that got across with Padraig Hampsey to prevent the shot.

When Vinny Corey found the ball come down off a post in Croke Park, it was Donnelly who was on the line with the Tyrone 'keeper before he got out to block Fintan Kelly's rebound.

In the final, he was the one that made the legitimate last-ditch tackle on Paul Mannion, turning the ball away only to see Tiernan McCann collide with him and concede a penalty.

That preoccupation with preventing green flags can, at times, make his defensive play look passive.

_____________________

Mattie Donnelly v Monaghan | 2018 All-Ireland semi-final
Position: Second sweeper
Touches: 15
Touches in opp half: 5
Carries: 9
Carries at pace: 7
Blocks: 1
Goal chances prevented: 1
Tackles made: 1
Tackles won: 0
Frees won: 2
Fouls committed: 0
Scored: 0-0
Direct assists: 0-1
Indirect assists: 0-2

Mattie Donnelly v Dublin | 2018 All-Ireland final
Position: Second sweeper
Touches: 14
Touches in opp half: 7
Carries: 7
Carries at pace: 5
Blocks: 0
Goal chances prevented: 0
Tackles made: 2
Tackles won: 1
Frees won: 0
Fouls committed: 1
Scored: 0-0
Direct assists: 0-1
Indirect assists: 0-1?
_____________________

At times, he can be reticent to engage a forward. It seems less that he doesn't want to tackle and more that he's thinking two steps ahead – 'what if I commit and get rolled, there could be a goal on'. So often, he shadows.

Against Monaghan he was a sporadic but powerful feature in their counter-attacking play, but against Dublin he carried a minimal threat.

And it's in those big games that the question has to be answered: are Tyrone getting enough out of one of their best players by using him as a sweeper?

In the All-Ireland final, particularly when Tyrone were chasing it, Donnelly was quite often the last man back in front of Niall Morgan.

There will be bigger tests of his suitability at full-forward. If he plays in there on Saturday night and comes up against a Jonny Cooper or Philly McMahon, would his movement be sharp enough, and would they be more a match for his physicality? Time will tell.

But all of the tools at his disposal make him the man that Tyrone can use to truly scare opposition full-back lines.

Unless they carry that real threat, they won't win an All-Ireland.

That's why Mattie Donnelly has to stay at full-forward.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on March 12, 2019, 12:07:59 PM
I don't think Tyrone have enough top quality forwards to win Sam
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 12, 2019, 03:14:34 PM
I'm not convinced either.
Cahir has overstatted his case.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 12, 2019, 03:38:58 PM
Prob not, but I think we've as good a shot as anyone else to beat Dublin. Which is only a long shot unfortunately.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fuzzman on March 12, 2019, 04:19:23 PM
For me one of our biggest weaknesses is the inability to mix it up. Most teams we play know we will always run with the ball and very rarely hit it in early and long as usually we have one or maybe two smallish forwards who can't win their own ball and certainly if they do they can hold a man off.
Having someone like Mattie who is strong as an ox and enjoys the physical battle will not be out-muscled or bullied by the likes of Johnny Cooper or Philly McFilth.
With Coney a lot older and wiser now we have someone who can deliver good quality ball into the FF line and so we no longer have to run the length of the field every single time now.
This can only help the 2 nippy corner forwards like Lee Brennan and maybe McAliskey to feed off Mattie. Peter Harte has played very well in that role the last few games and like Mattie was often played at half back but it's hard to know where his best position is. Both can certainly shoot with both feet.

I would not be at all surprised to see a shock this weekend in Croker.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 12, 2019, 04:27:40 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 12, 2019, 12:07:59 PM
I don't think Tyrone have enough top quality forwards to win Sam
I'd also question if Tyrone have enough top quality defenders to win Sam. We all know how good Dublin are however wasn't the score they got against Tyrone last September the highest they have scored in All Ireland final since 1977?

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on March 12, 2019, 04:31:22 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 12, 2019, 11:23:13 AM
Very little chat about El Classico this weekend. My prediction, the game will not finish with 15 v 15. I think its a real 50:50 game. That normally means McManus decides who wins it. Talk about Gearoid McKiernan possibly in line to feature.

I see the Galway v Roscommon game is fixed for 15:30 (with ours at 14:00). Does that not give them sway in who might fall through the trap door?  :o
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 12, 2019, 05:03:15 PM
We still need to win no matter what!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on March 12, 2019, 06:10:08 PM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on March 12, 2019, 04:31:22 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 12, 2019, 11:23:13 AM
Very little chat about El Classico this weekend. My prediction, the game will not finish with 15 v 15. I think its a real 50:50 game. That normally means McManus decides who wins it. Talk about Gearoid McKiernan possibly in line to feature.

I see the Galway v Roscommon game is fixed for 15:30 (with ours at 14:00). Does that not give them sway in who might fall through the trap door?  :o

That's true.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: westbound on March 13, 2019, 10:00:51 AM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on March 12, 2019, 04:31:22 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 12, 2019, 11:23:13 AM
Very little chat about El Classico this weekend. My prediction, the game will not finish with 15 v 15. I think its a real 50:50 game. That normally means McManus decides who wins it. Talk about Gearoid McKiernan possibly in line to feature.

I see the Galway v Roscommon game is fixed for 15:30 (with ours at 14:00). Does that not give them sway in who might fall through the trap door?  :o

Roscommon have to win the game. I'm not sure how knowing the result of Cavan V Monaghan is of any advantage to us (Roscommon)?

It'd be different it this was the last round of matches but with the final round still to come the time of the games this weekend makes no difference.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 13, 2019, 11:17:15 AM
Sure th'Ulster bucks wouldn't be happy unless they were complaining.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on March 13, 2019, 04:40:19 PM
Quote from: westbound on March 13, 2019, 10:00:51 AM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on March 12, 2019, 04:31:22 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 12, 2019, 11:23:13 AM
Very little chat about El Classico this weekend. My prediction, the game will not finish with 15 v 15. I think its a real 50:50 game. That normally means McManus decides who wins it. Talk about Gearoid McKiernan possibly in line to feature.

I see the Galway v Roscommon game is fixed for 15:30 (with ours at 14:00). Does that not give them sway in who might fall through the trap door?  :o

Roscommon have to win the game. I'm not sure how knowing the result of Cavan V Monaghan is of any advantage to us (Roscommon)?

It'd be different it this was the last round of matches but with the final round still to come the time of the games this weekend makes no difference.


I stand corrected.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on March 14, 2019, 09:26:39 PM
Kerry v Mayo sold out a couple of days ago. The kerry folk must be getting giddy!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 14, 2019, 10:44:09 PM
Any sign of a team?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Ball Hopper on March 15, 2019, 12:04:21 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 14, 2019, 10:44:09 PM
Any sign of a team?

Kerry will announce at 8pm on Friday night.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 15, 2019, 10:42:53 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 14, 2019, 09:26:39 PM
Kerry v Mayo sold out a couple of days ago. The kerry folk must be getting giddy!!

In fairness Kerry have always had great support at home.

Imagine an All-Ireland semi-final in Killarney, Kerry v Dublin. That would be an occasion to saviour.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 15, 2019, 11:01:18 AM
Careful Dinny.
You'll be accused of mean spiritedness and small mindedness for suggesting anything that smacks of fair play.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on March 15, 2019, 11:28:26 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 12, 2019, 05:03:15 PM
We still need to win no matter what!
The Rossies might be preparing an ambush like 2017 in the Connacht Final, the hoors
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 15, 2019, 01:34:37 PM
It will be a battle to get a word in and hold on to the microphone in the Northern Sound commentary box at Clones on saturday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 15, 2019, 01:37:39 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 15, 2019, 11:28:26 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 12, 2019, 05:03:15 PM
We still need to win no matter what!
The Rossies might be preparing an ambush like 2017 in the Connacht Final, the hoors

The last twice they got relegated, they won Connacht.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 15, 2019, 02:17:24 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 15, 2019, 11:28:26 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 12, 2019, 05:03:15 PM
We still need to win no matter what!
The Rossies might be preparing an ambush like 2017 in the Connacht Final, the hoors
Would it be a shock if they got a result this weekend? I don't think so at all, Galway-Rossies matches have been close enough over the past few years and they gave the Dubs a better game of it than Galway this league albeit outside of CP. They'll lace into Galway this weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rosnarun on March 15, 2019, 02:22:18 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 15, 2019, 10:42:53 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 14, 2019, 09:26:39 PM
Kerry v Mayo sold out a couple of days ago. The kerry folk must be getting giddy!!

In fairness Kerry have always had great support at home.

Imagine an All-Ireland semi-final in Killarney, Kerry v Dublin. That would be an occasion to saviour.
hoiw can they know its a sell out when season ticket holder can should up at the gate? between the 2 teams there could be hundreds in the difference depending on many factors
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: weareros on March 15, 2019, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 15, 2019, 11:28:26 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 12, 2019, 05:03:15 PM
We still need to win no matter what!
The Rossies might be preparing an ambush like 2017 in the Connacht Final, the hoors

Hopefully ye will be taking it aisy. Ye look safe enough and have won the one that matters: Mayo in Castlebar.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 15, 2019, 03:43:00 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on March 15, 2019, 02:22:18 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 15, 2019, 10:42:53 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 14, 2019, 09:26:39 PM
Kerry v Mayo sold out a couple of days ago. The kerry folk must be getting giddy!!

In fairness Kerry have always had great support at home.

Imagine an All-Ireland semi-final in Killarney, Kerry v Dublin. That would be an occasion to saviour.
hoiw can they know its a sell out when season ticket holder can should up at the gate? between the 2 teams there could be hundreds in the difference depending on many factors
Presumably they only printed the difference between capacuty and total season tickets?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 15, 2019, 03:44:22 PM
Galway lads-what's the chances of both games going ahead in Páirc na Gaoithe with all this rain warning?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 15, 2019, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 15, 2019, 03:44:22 PM
Galway lads-what's the chances of both games going ahead in Páirc na Gaoithe with all this rain warning?
No rain in Galway so far today yet anyway
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on March 15, 2019, 04:20:21 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 15, 2019, 01:34:37 PM
It will be a battle to get a word in and hold on to the microphone in the Northern Sound commentary box at Clones on saturday.

I hope that pitch of your can take a bit of rain?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 15, 2019, 04:22:31 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 15, 2019, 04:20:21 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 15, 2019, 01:34:37 PM
It will be a battle to get a word in and hold on to the microphone in the Northern Sound commentary box at Clones on saturday.

I hope that pitch of your can take a bit of rain?
As well a few pints of Cavan blood.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 15, 2019, 04:59:13 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0315/1036600-patricks-day-or-monday-games-on-cards-due-to-weather/
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 15, 2019, 06:26:21 PM
The big question is at what point tomorrow are they going to make the calls on the matches? They should make them early if they are going to at all, although I think that Salthill pitch can cope with a good bit of rain in fairness.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 15, 2019, 06:56:45 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 15, 2019, 06:26:21 PM
The big question is at what point tomorrow are they going to make the calls on the matches? They should make them early if they are going to at all, although I think that Salthill pitch can cope with a good bit of rain in fairness.

Didn't a Galway v Sligo championship game in Salthill get called off in the mid 00s and if i recall right it wasn't postponed until the morning of the game. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 15, 2019, 08:02:51 PM
Galway team v Roscommon

Ruairi Lavelle
Eoghan Kerin
Sean Andy O'Ceallaigh
David Wynne
Gary O'Donnell
John Daly
Gareth Bradshaw
Tom Flynn
Ciaran Duggan
Peter Cooke
Shane Walsh
Johnny Heaney
Danny Cummins
Michael Daly
Antaine O'Laoi
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 15, 2019, 08:35:08 PM
Clifford,O Donoghue are 2 big additions on the Kerry bench.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1uYkNXWwAUHmGW.jpg)


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 15, 2019, 08:52:16 PM
Mayo team. 3 changes Michael Plunkett, Conor Loftus & Kevin McLoughlin all coming into the team in place of Lee Keegan, Colm Boyle & Darren Coen

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Chris Barrett - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Conor Loftus - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
12. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber(C)
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: the goal was on on March 15, 2019, 09:03:30 PM
Geroid mc Kiernan back in Cavan panel too for tomorrow
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 15, 2019, 09:12:48 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 15, 2019, 06:56:45 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 15, 2019, 06:26:21 PM
The big question is at what point tomorrow are they going to make the calls on the matches? They should make them early if they are going to at all, although I think that Salthill pitch can cope with a good bit of rain in fairness.

Didn't a Galway v Sligo championship game in Salthill get called off in the mid 00s and if i recall right it wasn't postponed until the morning of the game.

Yeah you are right there, I probably had tried to mentally wipe it from my mind as I had travelled from Dublin only to have it cancelled as I was walking up to the pitch. I think they played some of the minor match, then abandoned it and cancelled the senior match.
Pitch inspection at 8am tomorrow according to GBFM so at least they are looking at it very early in the morning.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: thebackbar1 on March 15, 2019, 09:43:33 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 15, 2019, 09:12:48 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 15, 2019, 06:56:45 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 15, 2019, 06:26:21 PM
The big question is at what point tomorrow are they going to make the calls on the matches? They should make them early if they are going to at all, although I think that Salthill pitch can cope with a good bit of rain in fairness.

Didn't a Galway v Sligo championship game in Salthill get called off in the mid 00s and if i recall right it wasn't postponed until the morning of the game.

Yeah you are right there, I probably had tried to mentally wipe it from my mind as I had travelled from Dublin only to have it cancelled as I was walking up to the pitch. I think they played some of the minor match, then abandoned it and cancelled the senior match.
Pitch inspection at 8am tomorrow according to GBFM so at least they are looking at it very early in the morning.
A major drainage project was done on the pitch since then, it will be fine
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 15, 2019, 09:45:01 PM
If the football is off I presume it will be refixed for Monday due to Galway teams' involvement in the Club Finals?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 15, 2019, 09:57:38 PM
We'll give the Dubs their fill, tomorrow evening, and the rest. Will it suffice?... TBD  ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 16, 2019, 08:10:14 AM
I'd say there'll be a few games off today
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 16, 2019, 08:34:07 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 15, 2019, 09:12:48 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 15, 2019, 06:56:45 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 15, 2019, 06:26:21 PM
The big question is at what point tomorrow are they going to make the calls on the matches? They should make them early if they are going to at all, although I think that Salthill pitch can cope with a good bit of rain in fairness.

Didn't a Galway v Sligo championship game in Salthill get called off in the mid 00s and if i recall right it wasn't postponed until the morning of the game.

Yeah you are right there, I probably had tried to mentally wipe it from my mind as I had travelled from Dublin only to have it cancelled as I was walking up to the pitch. I think they played some of the minor match, then abandoned it and cancelled the senior match.
Pitch inspection at 8am tomorrow according to GBFM so at least they are looking at it very early in the morning.
I understand there was an 8am inspection & they are doing another at 10:30.
It ain't going to stop raining between now and 10:30 so it's not looking good.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 16, 2019, 08:46:50 AM
Ffs....could they not just do the decent thing and reschedule now before anyone starts to travel....If we can.
Heard a lot of flooded roads round Tuam?
I suspect Wexford hurlers already in Galway so they'll want to facilitate their game if at all possible.
Could have decided to change the football to Monday though!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on March 16, 2019, 09:03:21 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 16, 2019, 08:46:50 AM
Ffs....could they not just do the decent thing and reschedule now before anyone starts to travel....If we can.
Heard a lot of flooded roads round Tuam?
I suspect Wexford hurlers already in Galway so they'll want to facilitate their game if at all possible.
Could have decided to change the football to Monday though!

Seems a trend even for fbd games ,leave the decision till late as possible , gain a few quid in unused tickets for the rescheduled game I'm guessing.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on March 16, 2019, 10:15:45 AM
Both games going ahead in Salthill, just updated onGalway Bay FM.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 16, 2019, 03:57:37 PM
Shocking bad scoring chance conversion rate again from Galway with a gale behind them today, simply not good enough at the top level.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 16, 2019, 04:15:06 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 16, 2019, 03:57:37 PM
Shocking bad scoring chance conversion rate again from Galway with a gale behind them today, simply not good enough at the top level.
It's the recurring issue with this team.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 16, 2019, 05:19:11 PM
FT

Galway 1-17 Roscommon 1-10

Michael Daly got MOTM.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on March 16, 2019, 05:22:03 PM
Good win for Galway certainly top dogs in Connacht now with a gap to the Rossies and us! Pity about that performance against the Dubs (although everyone seems to have a poor performance in Croker against them) otherwise it would be back to back league finals for the tribesman!!

Hopefully we can get some type of positive performance in Tralee this evening although it feels like another bad defeat is on the cards!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 16, 2019, 05:32:46 PM
We fucked away any chance of the league final in Tuam against Kerry but just staying up was the main thing this year.
The likes of John Daly and Antaine O'Laoi have put the hand up as well, happy enough with how the league has gone but to move to the next level that we need to get to, Galway will simply have to improve the conversion rate in front of the posts, all the talk about the defensive system would quiet quickly enough if the scores that should be getting kicked over, were.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 05:35:11 PM
Though Northern Sound hyped up the tension to the final whistle i'd say the reality was Monaghan had the game well under control in the 2nd half. Tommy Freeman was one of the co commentators, he sounds like Navan Man (the spot on, no bother one).

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on March 16, 2019, 05:46:39 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 16, 2019, 05:32:46 PM
We fucked away any chance of the league final in Tuam against Kerry but just staying up was the main thing this year.
The likes of John Daly and Antaine O'Laoi have put the hand up as well, happy enough with how the league has gone but to move to the next level that we need to get to, Galway will simply have to improve the conversion rate in front of the posts, all the talk about the defensive system would quiet quickly enough if the scores that should be getting kicked over, were.
Very true.  The score line  suggests a comfortable win, which it was in he main, but some of the decision making and score attempts in the first half were of a very poor standard - not good enough to seriously contend later in the year unless there is an improvement, that's for sure.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on March 16, 2019, 05:48:41 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 05:35:11 PM
Though Northern Sound hyped up the tension to the final whistle i'd say the reality was Monaghan had the game well under control in the 2nd half. Tommy Freeman was one of the co commentators, he sounds like Navan Man (the spot on, no bother one).

You are right. Easy win for monaghan.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 16, 2019, 07:53:23 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score

They can keep that joyous stuff up for as long as they please! ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 16, 2019, 08:48:32 PM
Well done to Dublin and Mayo on their fine away wins tonight. Between Kerry,Mayo,Galway,Tyrone for a place in the final now. Rare to see a Jim Gavin Dublin team not reach a final.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on March 16, 2019, 08:51:11 PM
Great win for mayo, should have won by more but were wasteful at the start of the 2nd half.

A win for Galway in their last game guarantees a league final for them (edit: doesn't if mayo win and kerry lose actually)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 16, 2019, 08:52:24 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 16, 2019, 08:48:32 PM
Well done to Dublin and Mayo on their fine away wins tonight. Between Kerry,Mayo,Galway,Tyrone for a place in the final now. Rare to see a Jim Gavin Dublin team not reach a final.

Yerra wha?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score
Usual cynicism fromTyrone. Not sure how their no 22 stayed on the pitch after taking out Fenton in the 1st half. Weak ref and Tyrone took advantage. It is strange not to have a league final to forward to
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 16, 2019, 08:57:53 PM
Says it all with O'Rourke mourning Dublin not in the League Final with the loss of revenue to the GAA.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 16, 2019, 09:02:25 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score
Usual cynicism fromTyrone. Not sure how their no 22 stayed on the pitch after taking out Fenton in the 1st half. Weak ref and Tyrone took advantage. It is strange not to have a league final to forward to

This...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 16, 2019, 09:05:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 16, 2019, 08:57:53 PM
Says it all with O'Rourke mourning Dublin not in the League Final with the loss of revenue to the GAA.
The man is ridiculous, should be long gone from the coverage.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 16, 2019, 09:08:29 PM
Brilliant win tonight for Mayo on the road. Didn't give them a chance. Midfield is definitely AOS best position. Mattie Ruane a r3al find and took his goal well. Loftus didn't impress and I thought Boland did more than him when he went on for him. James Durcan was poor also. I have to say for a few minutes early in the second half I was getting frustrated with the lateral handpass shenanigans. Conditions were terrible but well done to the lads for digging it out. Monaghan next up, another difficult test.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 16, 2019, 09:09:26 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 16, 2019, 09:05:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 16, 2019, 08:57:53 PM
Says it all with O'Rourke mourning Dublin not in the League Final with the loss of revenue to the GAA.
The man is ridiculous, should be long gone from the coverage.

A Kerry/Galway final would see a record (low) attendance.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on March 16, 2019, 09:10:11 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score
Usual cynicism fromTyrone. Not sure how their no 22 stayed on the pitch after taking out Fenton in the 1st half. Weak ref and Tyrone took advantage. It is strange not to have a league final to forward to

I've missed Dublin comments like this. Gives me a nice warm feeling inside reading it.  :D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 09:19:17 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 16, 2019, 09:10:11 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score
Usual cynicism fromTyrone. Not sure how their no 22 stayed on the pitch after taking out Fenton in the 1st half. Weak ref and Tyrone took advantage. It is strange not to have a league final to forward to

I've missed Dublin comments like this. Gives me a nice warm feeling inside reading it.  :D
I suppose its the law of averages. All the times they played each other and dublin won (3 times last year alone) Tyrone had to win one eventually. They are horrible to watch. If you enjoy watching that sadomachism every game good luck to you
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on March 16, 2019, 09:24:11 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 09:19:17 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 16, 2019, 09:10:11 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score
Usual cynicism fromTyrone. Not sure how their no 22 stayed on the pitch after taking out Fenton in the 1st half. Weak ref and Tyrone took advantage. It is strange not to have a league final to forward to



I've missed Dublin comments like this. Gives me a nice warm feeling inside reading it.  :D
I suppose its the law of averages. All the times they played each other and dublin won (3 times last year alone) Tyrone had to win one eventually. They are horrible to watch. If you enjoy watching that sadomachism every game good luck to you

;D Wtf are you talking about?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 16, 2019, 09:27:07 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 09:19:17 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 16, 2019, 09:10:11 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score
Usual cynicism fromTyrone. Not sure how their no 22 stayed on the pitch after taking out Fenton in the 1st half. Weak ref and Tyrone took advantage. It is strange not to have a league final to forward to

I've missed Dublin comments like this. Gives me a nice warm feeling inside reading it.  :D
I suppose its the law of averages. All the times they played each other and dublin won (3 times last year alone) Tyrone had to win one eventually. They are horrible to watch. If you enjoy watching that sadomachism every game good luck to you

Sure it's great to see plucky Tyrone take on the Might of Financially doped Dublin. Real David and Goliath stuff.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Whishtup on March 16, 2019, 09:40:46 PM
Tactics a no-brainer for Tyrone tonight.  Col Cav played havoc under the high ball in the closing stages of the final last year-the only chink in the armour.  McShane is a big unit and will be useful in this role.  Mattie in some form.  We should have won by more if you consider the couple of misses near the end and advantage not being played for skeet foul.  Let's not get carried away, though.  Always nice to beat de Dubs but we also need to be able to take Kerry/Mayo in big games. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Over the Bar on March 16, 2019, 09:42:37 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 09:19:17 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 16, 2019, 09:10:11 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score
Usual cynicism fromTyrone. Not sure how their no 22 stayed on the pitch after taking out Fenton in the 1st half. Weak ref and Tyrone took advantage. It is strange not to have a league final to forward to

I've missed Dublin comments like this. Gives me a nice warm feeling inside reading it.  :D
I suppose its the law of averages. All the times they played each other and dublin won (3 times last year alone) Tyrone had to win one eventually. They are horrible to watch. If you enjoy watching that sadomachism every game good luck to you

Better watching proper Gaelic footballers who have to get up for a day job than a bunch of pampered jessies on EPO shots  driving about in free cars every Monday cos Uncle Jim insist they get the day off after playing. Twats!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: RedHand88 on March 16, 2019, 09:42:51 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score
Usual cynicism fromTyrone. Not sure how their no 22 stayed on the pitch after taking out Fenton in the 1st half. Weak ref and Tyrone took advantage. It is strange not to have a league final to forward to

It was a yellow card offence, he didn't give it, it wouldn't have changed the game or left Tyrone a man down. Don't be bitter! Tyrone were fantastic tonight (mostly). Few errors here and there but nothing to worry about.
The Dublin empire is in trouble. 3 defeats in 6 games, they look there for the taking everytime they go out now. The aura of invincibility is gone.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 16, 2019, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 16, 2019, 09:09:26 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 16, 2019, 09:05:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 16, 2019, 08:57:53 PM
Says it all with O'Rourke mourning Dublin not in the League Final with the loss of revenue to the GAA.
The man is ridiculous, should be long gone from the coverage.

A Kerry/Galway final would see a record (low) attendance.

Galway have a very tough away fixture to finish so it's not the most likely outcome but if Galway win and get through so what about the attendance? Is revenue generation on matchday in CP the only concern?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on March 16, 2019, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 16, 2019, 09:08:29 PM
Brilliant win tonight for Mayo on the road. Didn't give them a chance. Midfield is definitely AOS best position. Mattie Ruane a r3al find and took his goal well. Loftus didn't impress and I thought Boland did more than him when he went on for him. James Durcan was poor also. I have to say for a few minutes early in the second half I was getting frustrated with the lateral handpass shenanigans. Conditions were terrible but well done to the lads for digging it out. Monaghan next up, another difficult test.

Tonight's selection was very brave by Horan and makes the win even more remarkable. Ruane and McDonagh are keepers but Horan cannot be too pleased as regards panel development - especially forwards. Alright, there were some good performances there tonight but without Kevin McLoughlin we would have got nowhere near it. I'm pinning my hopes on Ryan O Donoghue - realising that he is out injured and has yet to make senior debut but that's where we are imo.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Over the Bar on March 16, 2019, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score
Usual cynicism fromTyrone. Not sure how their no 22 stayed on the pitch after taking out Fenton in the 1st half. Weak ref and Tyrone took advantage. It is strange not to have a league final to forward to

Mustn't one of the refs that Dublin give brown envelope to for behind closed doors games to practice cheating then?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 16, 2019, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 16, 2019, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 16, 2019, 09:09:26 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 16, 2019, 09:05:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 16, 2019, 08:57:53 PM
Says it all with O'Rourke mourning Dublin not in the League Final with the loss of revenue to the GAA.
The man is ridiculous, should be long gone from the coverage.

A Kerry/Galway final would see a record (low) attendance.

Galway have a very tough away fixture to finish so it's not the most likely outcome but if Galway win and get through so what about the attendance? Is revenue generation on matchday in CP the only concern?

Of course it is! That's all the GAA care about. There will be a plethora of empty corporate boxes on the day as well. Not to mention the losses to the vendors on the day. Croke Park is a business that depends on Dublin as it's main customer.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on March 16, 2019, 09:56:55 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 09:19:17 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 16, 2019, 09:10:11 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score
Usual cynicism fromTyrone. Not sure how their no 22 stayed on the pitch after taking out Fenton in the 1st half. Weak ref and Tyrone took advantage. It is strange not to have a league final to forward to

I've missed Dublin comments like this. Gives me a nice warm feeling inside reading it.  :D
I suppose its the law of averages. All the times they played each other and dublin won (3 times last year alone) Tyrone had to win one eventually. They are horrible to watch. If you enjoy watching that sadomachism every game good luck to you

Horrible to watch and freezing although i cant blame tyrone for the weather. Ref lost it toward end of 1st half when he let tyrone away with a few late hits. Needed to get the card out then to stop but he was too weak. The hit on Fenton was a few yards from the linesman but he was obviously blind too. Having said that Dublin were awful - have they forgotten how to play against a blanket ?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Over the Bar on March 16, 2019, 09:58:04 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score
Usual cynicism fromTyrone. Not sure how their no 22 stayed on the pitch after taking out Fenton in the 1st half. Weak ref and Tyrone took advantage. It is strange not to have a league final to forward to

So despite being outplayed by 14 men and are now bleating that it should have been 15 v 13?  Typical yapping jackeen!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 10:01:18 PM
The lack of grace from Dublin fans is poor fare indeed seeing as the Tyronies here haven't exactly been throwing high fives.
Mickey Harte looked positively perky post match.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on March 16, 2019, 10:02:52 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 16, 2019, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 16, 2019, 09:09:26 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 16, 2019, 09:05:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 16, 2019, 08:57:53 PM
Says it all with O'Rourke mourning Dublin not in the League Final with the loss of revenue to the GAA.
The man is ridiculous, should be long gone from the coverage.

A Kerry/Galway final would see a record (low) attendance.

Galway have a very tough away fixture to finish so it's not the most likely outcome but if Galway win and get through so what about the attendance? Is revenue generation on matchday in CP the only concern?

Someone (Cantwell i think) piped up with something about mayo being there would keep attendance up. Depressing stuff
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Over the Bar on March 16, 2019, 10:10:03 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 10:01:18 PM
The lack of grace from Dublin fans is poor fare indeed seeing as the Tyronies here haven't exactly been throwing high fives.
Mickey Harte looked positively perky post match.

That's cos 75% of those Dub fans weren't on the board until they started winning. Fair weather jacks
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 16, 2019, 10:21:58 PM
Looking like a Kerry v Mayo final.

Despite their troubles in Castlebar you'd imagine Mayo should get over Monaghan at home.

Tyrone v Galway is 50/50 but you'd have to give the nod to whoever is at home in that one.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 16, 2019, 10:24:30 PM
Well we got what we deserved today -a good batin.
We were as disorganised and unintense as the Cavan game.
While we still have a mathematical chance of staying up its a long shot and an unlikely one.
As sure look it......
If we win Connacht who'll remember the League.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrhardyannual on March 16, 2019, 10:25:59 PM
If Tyrone and Monaghan beat Galway and Mayo, Tyrone make the final. In fairness to them you wouldn't have put them in the chase after round 2.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 10:30:18 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on March 16, 2019, 09:58:04 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score
Usual cynicism fromTyrone. Not sure how their no 22 stayed on the pitch after taking out Fenton in the 1st half. Weak ref and Tyrone took advantage. It is strange not to have a league final to forward to

So despite being outplayed by 14 men and are now bleating that it should have been 15 v 13?  Typical yapping jackeen!  ;D ;D

Ah look enjoy your LEAGUE win. As I said if you enjoy watching that cynical s**t every game, good luck to you. Its no wonder people wont watch football anymore
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 10:32:19 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on March 16, 2019, 10:25:59 PM
If Tyrone and Monaghan beat Galway and Mayo, Tyrone make the final. In fairness to them you wouldn't have put them in the chase after round 2.
I would be very happy  for Tyrone if your scenario came to pass.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on March 16, 2019, 10:39:34 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on March 16, 2019, 10:25:59 PM
If Tyrone and Monaghan beat Galway and Mayo, Tyrone make the final. In fairness to them you wouldn't have put them in the chase after round 2.

You'd have hardly believed it after the mayo game, Tyrone were a rabble that day
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Watcher on March 16, 2019, 10:40:17 PM
Though that myself but spillane, orourke n do hardly have turned a mention after the mayo Kerry game.  Not sure they even realised tyrone could make it but more likely chose to ignore it
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: omagh_gael on March 16, 2019, 10:46:56 PM
I thought Tyrone played very well tonight and in fact played good football. Obviously a serious focus over past few weeks on getting longer ball into the forwards.

Key to this has been Mattie's form in there winning dirty ball (hat tip to McShane too!) but Ritchy Donnelly has made a huge difference in upping the quality of the long ball.

Hampsey's ball into McShane for his final score was sublime.

Don't know whether I enjoyed the football or Dublin7's hissy fit here more!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 16, 2019, 10:46:56 PM
I thought Tyrone played very well tonight and in fact played good football. Obviously a serious focus over past few weeks on getting longer ball into the forwards.

Key to this has been Mattie's form in there winning dirty ball (hat tip to McShane too!) but Ritchy Donnelly has made a huge difference in upping the quality of the long ball.

Hampsey's ball into McShane for his final score was sublime.

Don't know whether I enjoyed the football or Dublin7's hissy fit here more!
That's  right its a hissy fit. I did say well done, but if you choose to take it another way, well that is your choice. Whatever
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrdeeds on March 16, 2019, 10:54:24 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 16, 2019, 10:46:56 PM
I thought Tyrone played very well tonight and in fact played good football. Obviously a serious focus over past few weeks on getting longer ball into the forwards.

Key to this has been Mattie's form in there winning dirty ball (hat tip to McShane too!) but Ritchy Donnelly has made a huge difference in upping the quality of the long ball.

Hampsey's ball into McShane for his final score was sublime.

Don't know whether I enjoyed the football or Dublin7's hissy fit here more!

It's almost like Tyrone kicked more ball in All Ire Final.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: RedHand88 on March 16, 2019, 11:11:49 PM
That crossfield diagonal ball we kept playing was working wonders. SON having an effect behind the scenes.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 11:15:21 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 16, 2019, 10:46:56 PM
I thought Tyrone played very well tonight and in fact played good football. Obviously a serious focus over past few weeks on getting longer ball into the forwards.

Key to this has been Mattie's form in there winning dirty ball (hat tip to McShane too!) but Ritchy Donnelly has made a huge difference in upping the quality of the long ball.

Hampsey's ball into McShane for his final score was sublime.

Don't know whether I enjoyed the football or Dublin7's hissy fit here more!
That's  right its a hissy fit. I did say well done, but if you choose to take it another way, well that is your choice. Whatever
Where and when did you say "well done"?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on March 16, 2019, 11:19:29 PM
Functional win for Galway today, plenty of the usual complaints but the form of john Daly, Danny Cummins and Ó Laoi are positives. Division 1 secured with a game to spare and still a chance to make a league final, all without a fairly big chunk of first team players leaves us in a good place heading into championship. Wonder will we see a couple of the Corofin boys against Tyrone next week, Silke and Molloy are badly needed in defence, O'Donnell and Bradshaw are done IMO.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: ziggysego on March 16, 2019, 11:22:00 PM
Great game of football tonight. First victory against Dublin in 6 years and Mickey's 300th game as manager.

A great game of attacking football and it was wonderful to watch. I was delighted to see Mickey bringing on players to take the game to Dublin, instead of trying to defend slim leads.

A different kettle of fish to the red hot intensity of Championship football, but it will go a long way in boosting the confidence and belief in this group of lads that they can take on Dublin in Croke Park and win.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 11:23:23 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 11:15:21 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 16, 2019, 10:46:56 PM
I thought Tyrone played very well tonight and in fact played good football. Obviously a serious focus over past few weeks on getting longer ball into the forwards.

Key to this has been Mattie's form in there winning dirty ball (hat tip to McShane too!) but Ritchy Donnelly has made a huge difference in upping the quality of the long ball.

Hampsey's ball into McShane for his final score was sublime.

Don't know whether I enjoyed the football or Dublin7's hissy fit here more!
That's  right its a hissy fit. I did say well done, but if you choose to take it another way, well that is your choice. Whatever
Where and when did you say "well done"?

Previous page I said enjoy your LEAGUE win. If you want to sit on ypur high horse good look to you. I hope you enjoyed the game. Unfortunately my main experience in the 2nd half was a drunk tyrone fan falling on my friend, breaking his pint glass on her and covering her in beer. Thankfully the gardai dealt with the ahole.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: RedHand88 on March 16, 2019, 11:28:03 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 11:23:23 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 11:15:21 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 16, 2019, 10:46:56 PM
I thought Tyrone played very well tonight and in fact played good football. Obviously a serious focus over past few weeks on getting longer ball into the forwards.

Key to this has been Mattie's form in there winning dirty ball (hat tip to McShane too!) but Ritchy Donnelly has made a huge difference in upping the quality of the long ball.

Hampsey's ball into McShane for his final score was sublime.

Don't know whether I enjoyed the football or Dublin7's hissy fit here more!
That's  right its a hissy fit. I did say well done, but if you choose to take it another way, well that is your choice. Whatever
Where and when did you say "well done"?

Previous page I said enjoy your LEAGUE win. If you want to sit on ypur high horse good look to you. I hope you enjoyed the game. Unfortunately my main experience in the 2nd half was a drunk tyrone fan falling on my friend, breaking his pint glass on her and covering her in beer. Thankfully the gardai dealt with the ahole.

Your lack of self awareness is astounding.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 11:28:29 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on March 16, 2019, 11:22:00 PM
Great game of football tonight. First victory against Dublin in 6 years and Mickey's 300th game as manager.

A great game of attacking football and it was wonderful to watch. I was delighted to see Mickey bringing on players to take the game to Dublin, instead of trying to defend slim leads.

A different kettle of fish to the red hot intensity of Championship football, but it will go a long way in boosting the confidence and belief in this group of lads that they can take on Dublin in Croke Park and win.
Well Ziggy I suppose that's it, the death knell already tolls for rest of Ulster
Carry the flag for Ulster with pride when you get to CP and take on Dublin  :D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 11:32:46 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on March 16, 2019, 11:28:03 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 11:23:23 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 11:15:21 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 16, 2019, 10:46:56 PM
I thought Tyrone played very well tonight and in fact played good football. Obviously a serious focus over past few weeks on getting longer ball into the forwards.

Key to this has been Mattie's form in there winning dirty ball (hat tip to McShane too!) but Ritchy Donnelly has made a huge difference in upping the quality of the long ball.

Hampsey's ball into McShane for his final score was sublime.

Don't know whether I enjoyed the football or Dublin7's hissy fit here more!
That's  right its a hissy fit. I did say well done, but if you choose to take it another way, well that is your choice. Whatever
Where and when did you say "well done"?

Previous page I said enjoy your LEAGUE win. If you want to sit on ypur high horse good look to you. I hope you enjoyed the game. Unfortunately my main experience in the 2nd half was a drunk tyrone fan falling on my friend, breaking his pint glass on her and covering her in beer. Thankfully the gardai dealt with the ahole.

Your lack of self awareness is astounding.

Really. Ive never had any problem in the premium section before. Never had people bring glass pint glasses out to the seats, had them collapse drunk on a lady and then give the lady s**t and blame her. If you think that's normal I'm glad I dont know you
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: ziggysego on March 16, 2019, 11:33:11 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 11:28:29 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on March 16, 2019, 11:22:00 PM
Great game of football tonight. First victory against Dublin in 6 years and Mickey's 300th game as manager.

A great game of attacking football and it was wonderful to watch. I was delighted to see Mickey bringing on players to take the game to Dublin, instead of trying to defend slim leads.

A different kettle of fish to the red hot intensity of Championship football, but it will go a long way in boosting the confidence and belief in this group of lads that they can take on Dublin in Croke Park and win.
Well Ziggy I suppose that's it, the death knell already tolls for rest of Ulster
Carry the flag for Ulster with pride when you get to CP and take on Dublin  :D

Miaow 😂
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Over the Bar on March 17, 2019, 12:00:40 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 11:32:46 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on March 16, 2019, 11:28:03 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 11:23:23 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 11:15:21 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 16, 2019, 10:46:56 PM
I thought Tyrone played very well tonight and in fact played good football. Obviously a serious focus over past few weeks on getting longer ball into the forwards.

Key to this has been Mattie's form in there winning dirty ball (hat tip to McShane too!) but Ritchy Donnelly has made a huge difference in upping the quality of the long ball.

Hampsey's ball into McShane for his final score was sublime.

Don't know whether I enjoyed the football or Dublin7's hissy fit here more!
That's  right its a hissy fit. I did say well done, but if you choose to take it another way, well that is your choice. Whatever
Where and when did you say "well done"?

Previous page I said enjoy your LEAGUE win. If you want to sit on ypur high horse good look to you. I hope you enjoyed the game. Unfortunately my main experience in the 2nd half was a drunk tyrone fan falling on my friend, breaking his pint glass on her and covering her in beer. Thankfully the gardai dealt with the ahole.

Your lack of self awareness is astounding.

Really. Ive never had any problem in the premium section before. Never had people bring glass pint glasses out to the seats, had them collapse drunk on a lady and then give the lady s**t and blame her. If you think that's normal I'm glad I dont know you

Normal behaviour in your neighbourhood probably, but thankfully your type aren't usually welcome on the premium level.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: RedHand88 on March 17, 2019, 12:03:18 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 11:32:46 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on March 16, 2019, 11:28:03 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 11:23:23 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 11:15:21 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 16, 2019, 10:46:56 PM
I thought Tyrone played very well tonight and in fact played good football. Obviously a serious focus over past few weeks on getting longer ball into the forwards.

Key to this has been Mattie's form in there winning dirty ball (hat tip to McShane too!) but Ritchy Donnelly has made a huge difference in upping the quality of the long ball.

Hampsey's ball into McShane for his final score was sublime.

Don't know whether I enjoyed the football or Dublin7's hissy fit here more!
That's  right its a hissy fit. I did say well done, but if you choose to take it another way, well that is your choice. Whatever
Where and when did you say "well done"?

Previous page I said enjoy your LEAGUE win. If you want to sit on ypur high horse good look to you. I hope you enjoyed the game. Unfortunately my main experience in the 2nd half was a drunk tyrone fan falling on my friend, breaking his pint glass on her and covering her in beer. Thankfully the gardai dealt with the ahole.

Your lack of self awareness is astounding.

Really. Ive never had any problem in the premium section before. Never had people bring glass pint glasses out to the seats, had them collapse drunk on a lady and then give the lady s**t and blame her. If you think that's normal I'm glad I dont know you

Ahh that explains it. You wouldn't see what I see.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: under the bar on March 17, 2019, 12:27:02 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 10:30:18 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on March 16, 2019, 09:58:04 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score
Usual cynicism fromTyrone. Not sure how their no 22 stayed on the pitch after taking out Fenton in the 1st half. Weak ref and Tyrone took advantage. It is strange not to have a league final to forward to

So despite being outplayed by 14 men and are now bleating that it should have been 15 v 13?  Typical yapping jackeen!  ;D ;D

Ah look enjoy your LEAGUE win.

Oooohhh. Check out the wee bitch who has supported the Dubs from 2014 and throws a hissy fit if they lose! :D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: omagh_gael on March 17, 2019, 12:28:58 AM
Dublin is rattled lads. It's only a matter of time till we get Sam back amongst the bushes.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rrhf on March 17, 2019, 01:35:27 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on March 16, 2019, 09:42:51 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: Solo_run on March 16, 2019, 07:40:55 PM
Towards the end of the first half Dublin were a joy to watch paying the ball around but didn't result in a score
Usual cynicism fromTyrone. Not sure how their no 22 stayed on the pitch after taking out Fenton in the 1st half. Weak ref and Tyrone took advantage. It is strange not to have a league final to forward to

It was a yellow card offence, he didn't give it, it wouldn't have changed the game or left Tyrone a man down. Don't be bitter! Tyrone were fantastic tonight (mostly). Few errors here and there but nothing to worry about.
The Dublin empire is in trouble. 3 defeats in 6 games, they look there for the taking everytime they go out now. The aura of invincibility is gone.
Listen they won loads but the rest of us didn't challenge them except for Donegal and Mayo. As bad a Tyrone Kerry outfit  Etc as there has been left Mayo and Donegal  as the only hopes.. it's changing and I can't see them doing the 5. I'm predicting Tyrone Kerry and Galway to improve on recent championship effforts and one of these 3 will take theDubs. My money's still on Kerry.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Jim Bob on March 17, 2019, 07:50:53 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 11:23:23 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 11:15:21 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 16, 2019, 10:46:56 PM
I thought Tyrone played very well tonight and in fact played good football. Obviously a serious focus over past few weeks on getting longer ball into the forwards.

Key to this has been Mattie's form in there winning dirty ball (hat tip to McShane too!) but Ritchy Donnelly has made a huge difference in upping the quality of the long ball.

Hampsey's ball into McShane for his final score was sublime.

Don't know whether I enjoyed the football or Dublin7's hissy fit here more!
That's  right its a hissy fit. I did say well done, but if you choose to take it another way, well that is your choice. Whatever
Where and when did you say "well done"?

Previous page I said enjoy your LEAGUE win. If you want to sit on ypur high horse good look to you. I hope you enjoyed the game. Unfortunately my main experience in the 2nd half was a drunk tyrone fan falling on my friend, breaking his pint glass on her and covering her in beer. Thankfully the gardai dealt with the ahole.

Christ you had a bad night. Ur team beat off it , Bollocks frozen and no hanky panky  from g/f later on cos she's in no mood over her coat getting beered!!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on March 17, 2019, 08:44:01 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 16, 2019, 11:19:29 PM
Functional win for Galway today, plenty of the usual complaints but the form of john Daly, Danny Cummins and Ó Laoi are positives. Division 1 secured with a game to spare and still a chance to make a league final, all without a fairly big chunk of first team players leaves us in a good place heading into championship. Wonder will we see a couple of the Corofin boys against Tyrone next week, Silke and Molloy are badly needed in defence, O'Donnell and Bradshaw are done IMO.
O'Donnell and Bradshaw may not be nailed on starters come championship but both have had relatively decent league campaigns, whilst others are unavailable, and will offer decent cover off the bench as we progress through the year - I wouldn't be so dismissive of either just yet. 

Very good league campaign todate, especially with all the absentees.  The lads you mentioned have impressed for sure and despite all the criticism, some deserved, KW has managed the situation very well.  As other Galway posters have alluded to here, I have more concerns about the forwards right now!  Conversion rates are way to low versus chances created.  Would hope to see that improve when Comer and especially Burke are back in the team.

Onward to Healy Park and looking forward to it!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on March 17, 2019, 08:57:47 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 16, 2019, 08:57:53 PM
Says it all with O'Rourke mourning Dublin not in the League Final with the loss of revenue to the GAA.

Any thoughts on Mayo's win over Kerry?

Tyrone were very focused last night and even the concession of the early goal didn't derail them as it would have in previous meetings with the Dubs.

The result leaves the Dubs with a lot to work on coming into the summer if they're to have any chance of staying on top.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: clarshack on March 17, 2019, 09:19:51 AM
Great win for Tyrone last night. Cathal McShane and the 2 Donnelly's were excellent. Also thought the referee was fair and unbiased.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: the goal was on on March 17, 2019, 09:56:51 AM
Tyrone were excellent, dubs execution poor on night. There defence was missing fitzsimmonds mc Mahon mc caffrey and the wee boy who usually picks up sludden so they will tighten up there as things go on. Lost small too and James mc Carthy looked off the pace. The gap has closed and dubs forwards particularly there dubs not as dynamic as they were.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 17, 2019, 10:08:09 AM
Gap hasn't closed based on league games. Dublin come championship are a different animal. There's def a problem at full back but I see only Kerry as possible upsetting the apple cart but as last nite showed, they are inconsistent.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on March 17, 2019, 10:24:55 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on March 17, 2019, 07:50:53 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 11:23:23 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 11:15:21 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 16, 2019, 10:46:56 PM
I thought Tyrone played very well tonight and in fact played good football. Obviously a serious focus over past few weeks on getting longer ball into the forwards.

Key to this has been Mattie's form in there winning dirty ball (hat tip to McShane too!) but Ritchy Donnelly has made a huge difference in upping the quality of the long ball.

Hampsey's ball into McShane for his final score was sublime.

Don't know whether I enjoyed the football or Dublin7's hissy fit here more!
That's  right its a hissy fit. I did say well done, but if you choose to take it another way, well that is your choice. Whatever
Where and when did you say "well done"?

Previous page I said enjoy your LEAGUE win. If you want to sit on ypur high horse good look to you. I hope you enjoyed the game. Unfortunately my main experience in the 2nd half was a drunk tyrone fan falling on my friend, breaking his pint glass on her and covering her in beer. Thankfully the gardai dealt with the ahole.

Christ you had a bad night. Ur team beat off it , Bollocks frozen and no hanky panky  from g/f later on cos she's in no mood over her coat getting beered!!!
not to mention the broken glass. Hopefully thats the last time dublin habe to play tyrone this summer
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on March 17, 2019, 10:30:34 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on March 17, 2019, 12:00:40 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 11:32:46 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on March 16, 2019, 11:28:03 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 11:23:23 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 11:15:21 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 16, 2019, 10:46:56 PM
I thought Tyrone played very well tonight and in fact played good football. Obviously a serious focus over past few weeks on getting longer ball into the forwards.

Key to this has been Mattie's form in there winning dirty ball (hat tip to McShane too!) but Ritchy Donnelly has made a huge difference in upping the quality of the long ball.

Hampsey's ball into McShane for his final score was sublime.

Don't know whether I enjoyed the football or Dublin7's hissy fit here more!
That's  right its a hissy fit. I did say well done, but if you choose to take it another way, well that is your choice. Whatever
Where and when did you say "well done"?

Previous page I said enjoy your LEAGUE win. If you want to sit on ypur high horse good look to you. I hope you enjoyed the game. Unfortunately my main experience in the 2nd half was a drunk tyrone fan falling on my friend, breaking his pint glass on her and covering her in beer. Thankfully the gardai dealt with the ahole.

Your lack of self awareness is astounding.

Really. Ive never had any problem in the premium section before. Never had people bring glass pint glasses out to the seats, had them collapse drunk on a lady and then give the lady s**t and blame her. If you think that's normal I'm glad I dont know you

Normal behaviour in your neighbourhood probably, but thankfully your type aren't usually welcome on the premium level.
I know I much prefer the hill rather than pretentious fool like yourself, but fornleague games at this time of year, why not? At least the food was good
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 17, 2019, 10:33:13 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on March 17, 2019, 08:57:47 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 16, 2019, 08:57:53 PM
Says it all with O'Rourke mourning Dublin not in the League Final with the loss of revenue to the GAA.

Any thoughts on Mayo's win over Kerry?

Tyrone were very focused last night and even the concession of the early goal didn't derail them as it would have in previous meetings with the Dubs.

The result leaves the Dubs with a lot to work on coming into the summer if they're to have any chance of staying on top.

The result proves little. Mayo won't be playing Kerry in Tralee on a pissy, windy night in the summer. Dublin will continue to be the golden child with home games and still financially doped. This tom foolery of the League will soon be all forgotten. I hear talk of the ''GAP'' being closed. Tyrone have never had any problems with Dublin in the League. The GAP is there on and off the field! And 2019 will be no different. Dublin are 8/13 to win the AI. Tyrone are 12/1. Kerry are 7/2 based on god knows what? They have a sh1te full back line!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 17, 2019, 10:36:09 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 16, 2019, 11:19:29 PM
Functional win for Galway today, plenty of the usual complaints but the form of john Daly, Danny Cummins and Ó Laoi are positives. Division 1 secured with a game to spare and still a chance to make a league final, all without a fairly big chunk of first team players leaves us in a good place heading into championship. Wonder will we see a couple of the Corofin boys against Tyrone next week, Silke and Molloy are badly needed in defence, O'Donnell and Bradshaw are done IMO.
Totally disagree re GOD and Brads.
Both still have plenty to offer
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on March 17, 2019, 10:38:30 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 16, 2019, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 16, 2019, 09:08:29 PM
Brilliant win tonight for Mayo on the road. Didn't give them a chance. Midfield is definitely AOS best position. Mattie Ruane a r3al find and took his goal well. Loftus didn't impress and I thought Boland did more than him when he went on for him. James Durcan was poor also. I have to say for a few minutes early in the second half I was getting frustrated with the lateral handpass shenanigans. Conditions were terrible but well done to the lads for digging it out. Monaghan next up, another difficult test.

Tonight's selection was very brave by Horan and makes the win even more remarkable. Ruane and McDonagh are keepers but Horan cannot be too pleased as regards panel development - especially forwards. Alright, there were some good performances there tonight but without Kevin McLoughlin we would have got nowhere near it. I'm pinning my hopes on Ryan O Donoghue - realising that he is out injured and has yet to make senior debut but that's where we are imo.
I think you are unduly pessimistic here, moy. After all, the conditions underfoot were pure cat ; it was an away game against our long time nemesis and it sure was brass monkey weather! Some played better than others but all put it on the line, no holding back.
I was definitely pleased with the level of determination for start to finish. That's why I wouldn't be too hard on Michael Plunkett, he made a few poor choices but he has shown good promise in the past and I'd add him to the keeper list.
BTW, what's the story with Evan Reagan? Is he still hampered by injuries  or has he gone off the boil? He has shown great promise alright but, since his first shoulder injury, must be 4 years ago, he's not the force I thought he'd be.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on March 17, 2019, 11:02:54 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 17, 2019, 10:30:34 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on March 17, 2019, 12:00:40 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 11:32:46 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on March 16, 2019, 11:28:03 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 11:23:23 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 16, 2019, 11:15:21 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on March 16, 2019, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 16, 2019, 10:46:56 PM
I thought Tyrone played very well tonight and in fact played good football. Obviously a serious focus over past few weeks on getting longer ball into the forwards.

Key to this has been Mattie's form in there winning dirty ball (hat tip to McShane too!) but Ritchy Donnelly has made a huge difference in upping the quality of the long ball.

Hampsey's ball into McShane for his final score was sublime.

Don't know whether I enjoyed the football or Dublin7's hissy fit here more!
That's  right its a hissy fit. I did say well done, but if you choose to take it another way, well that is your choice. Whatever
Where and when did you say "well done"?

Previous page I said enjoy your LEAGUE win. If you want to sit on ypur high horse good look to you. I hope you enjoyed the game. Unfortunately my main experience in the 2nd half was a drunk tyrone fan falling on my friend, breaking his pint glass on her and covering her in beer. Thankfully the gardai dealt with the ahole.

Your lack of self awareness is astounding.

Really. Ive never had any problem in the premium section before. Never had people bring glass pint glasses out to the seats, had them collapse drunk on a lady and then give the lady s**t and blame her. If you think that's normal I'm glad I dont know you

Normal behaviour in your neighbourhood probably, but thankfully your type aren't usually welcome on the premium level.
I know I much prefer the hill rather than pretentious fool like yourself, but fornleague games at this time of year, why not? At least the food was good

I was on the hill a few years ago for a Saturday evening league game and there was a group of Dublin "supporters" throwing coke up their nose for the full 70mins.Their behaviour became more and more erratic as the game went on. I'd take dealing with the odd drunkard over this, every day of the week. But each to their own,  its all about what you are used to and comfortable with I suppose. Modern life is rubbish.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Raginbull on March 17, 2019, 11:45:04 AM
Quote from: galwayman on March 17, 2019, 10:36:09 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 16, 2019, 11:19:29 PM
Functional win for Galway today, plenty of the usual complaints but the form of john Daly, Danny Cummins and Ó Laoi are positives. Division 1 secured with a game to spare and still a chance to make a league final, all without a fairly big chunk of first team players leaves us in a good place heading into championship. Wonder will we see a couple of the Corofin boys against Tyrone next week, Silke and Molloy are badly needed in defence, O'Donnell and Bradshaw are done IMO.
Totally disagree re GOD and Brads.
Both still have plenty to offer

Bradshaw certainly does and having lads of this quality at least competing for places or coming off the bench is certainly preferential to consigning them to the scrapheap. I think we have better options for first teamers coming through but we need strength in depth in order to compete with the Dubs. We can't leave the same knackered 15 on while they empty the bench.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 17, 2019, 01:01:24 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 17, 2019, 10:38:30 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 16, 2019, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 16, 2019, 09:08:29 PM
Brilliant win tonight for Mayo on the road. Didn't give them a chance. Midfield is definitely AOS best position. Mattie Ruane a r3al find and took his goal well. Loftus didn't impress and I thought Boland did more than him when he went on for him. James Durcan was poor also. I have to say for a few minutes early in the second half I was getting frustrated with the lateral handpass shenanigans. Conditions were terrible but well done to the lads for digging it out. Monaghan next up, another difficult test.

Tonight's selection was very brave by Horan and makes the win even more remarkable. Ruane and McDonagh are keepers but Horan cannot be too pleased as regards panel development - especially forwards. Alright, there were some good performances there tonight but without Kevin McLoughlin we would have got nowhere near it. I'm pinning my hopes on Ryan O Donoghue - realising that he is out injured and has yet to make senior debut but that's where we are imo.
I think you are unduly pessimistic here, moy. After all, the conditions underfoot were pure cat ; it was an away game against our long time nemesis and it sure was brass monkey weather! Some played better than others but all put it on the line, no holding back.
I was definitely pleased with the level of determination for start to finish. That's why I wouldn't be too hard on Michael Plunkett, he made a few poor choices but he has shown good promise in the past and I'd add him to the keeper list.
BTW, what's the story with Evan Reagan? Is he still hampered by injuries  or has he gone off the boil? He has shown great promise alright but, since his first shoulder injury, must be 4 years ago, he's not the force I thought he'd be.
I'd like to see a rematch of these teams in the League final, a neutral ground and better conditions.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: clarshack on March 17, 2019, 03:00:24 PM
If Mayo and Monaghan were to draw and Tyrone were to beat Galway by 2+, would Tyrone go through on score difference or Mayo on head to head?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on March 17, 2019, 03:49:40 PM
I had a dream....

Mayo beat Monaghsn by 5 points
Cavan amazingly beat Dublins C team by 2 points. The A&B teams flew out on their holidays during the week
Rossies push Kerry hard and lead until the end only for that new O Se fella to kick a 60m free over the bar for a draw.

Incredibly cavan, monaghan and Ross all finished on 4 points and cavan's superior score difference keeps them up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 17, 2019, 03:59:02 PM
Look likes Monaghan will be the first team in Division 1 to stay up on 4 points since Armagh in 2011. If Dublin carry their league form into the championship they won't win the All Ireland however that is a big if.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Over the Bar on March 17, 2019, 10:57:58 PM
Have the usual suspect Dubs on the board gotten over their team being dominated by 14 men in Croker yet?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 17, 2019, 11:05:15 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on March 17, 2019, 10:57:58 PM
Have the usual suspect Dubs on the board gotten over their team being dominated by 14 men in Croker yet?

They don't care! Jez, it's a league game in March!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 17, 2019, 11:08:55 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 17, 2019, 11:05:15 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on March 17, 2019, 10:57:58 PM
Have the usual suspect Dubs on the board gotten over their team being dominated by 14 men in Croker yet?

They don't care! Jez, it's a league game in March!
Lucky for the Dubs there's no offensive mark in the championship
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on March 17, 2019, 11:13:45 PM
Lads the dubs have everyone exactly where they want them.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on March 17, 2019, 11:27:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 17, 2019, 11:16:35 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 17, 2019, 11:13:45 PM
Lads the dubs have everyone exactly where they want them.
Nope. I'd say we've definitely flown under their radar.
Surely they are not waiting in the long grass are they?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on March 18, 2019, 12:49:23 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on March 17, 2019, 10:57:58 PM
Have the usual suspect Dubs on the board gotten over their team being dominated by 14 men in Croker yet?

Well, by now we're used to Tyrone giving us a hard time in Croker in March.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on March 18, 2019, 01:23:15 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 17, 2019, 10:38:30 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 16, 2019, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 16, 2019, 09:08:29 PM
Brilliant win tonight for Mayo on the road. Didn't give them a chance. Midfield is definitely AOS best position. Mattie Ruane a r3al find and took his goal well. Loftus didn't impress and I thought Boland did more than him when he went on for him. James Durcan was poor also. I have to say for a few minutes early in the second half I was getting frustrated with the lateral handpass shenanigans. Conditions were terrible but well done to the lads for digging it out. Monaghan next up, another difficult test.

Tonight's selection was very brave by Horan and makes the win even more remarkable. Ruane and McDonagh are keepers but Horan cannot be too pleased as regards panel development - especially forwards. Alright, there were some good performances there tonight but without Kevin McLoughlin we would have got nowhere near it. I'm pinning my hopes on Ryan O Donoghue - realising that he is out injured and has yet to make senior debut but that's where we are imo.
I think you are unduly pessimistic here, moy. After all, the conditions underfoot were pure cat ; it was an away game against our long time nemesis and it sure was brass monkey weather! Some played better than others but all put it on the line, no holding back.
I was definitely pleased with the level of determination for start to finish. That's why I wouldn't be too hard on Michael Plunkett, he made a few poor choices but he has shown good promise in the past and I'd add him to the keeper list.
BTW, what's the story with Evan Reagan? Is he still hampered by injuries  or has he gone off the boil? He has shown great promise alright but, since his first shoulder injury, must be 4 years ago, he's not the force I thought he'd be.

I know I'm a bit pessimistic Lar but a bunch of balloons compared to Larry, Farr, and Bunker ;D ;D ;D
As I said earlier Ruane and McDonagh are a big plus. Farr. called out a couple. You saw the game so .....
You would have also seen Regan's latest injury - shoulder again. It was on tv . He was never going to be around for last 3 games. Remains to be seen if he can realise his ability after so many set backs.
Still I think we are solid going ahead. We could get a boost from Ryan O Donoghue and maybe Diskin before the days start getting short again. Treacy (rolled ankle badly v Dubs) can fly, kick scores and frees if needed. I'd be optimistic as long as we dont do the usual silly stuff v Galway.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Never beat the deeler on March 18, 2019, 03:05:51 AM
Brutal the level of ignorance in our media with the standings. I have seen it reported that Cavan are relegated and that Mayo are guaranteed a league final appearance with a win.
Neither statement is correct.

While it is unlikely, if Cavan win, Ros draw and Monaghan lose and if Monaghan's losing margin plus Cavan's winning margin is greater than 5 (or equal to 5 and Cavan score 6 points more than Monaghan) then Cavan would stay up.

If Mayo, Galway and Kerry all win (or if Kerry draw), Mayo will finish third.
If Mayo and Galway win and Kerry lose, it would depend on margins. Mayo currently +7, Galway +0 and Kerry +11. Most likely Mayo and Kerry in this scenario, but could technically be any 2 of the three.
If Mayo draw and Tyrone beat Galway, Mayo would finish second by virtue of H2H win over Tyrone.
If Mayo draw and Galway draw or win, Galway would finish second.
If Mayo lose they cannot finish in the top 2.

The only way Kerry do not qualify for the final is if Mayo and Galway both win well and Kerry lose heavily. Galway win plus Kerry loss would need to be 12 points
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Never beat the deeler on March 18, 2019, 03:08:36 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on March 18, 2019, 03:05:51 AM
Brutal the level of ignorance in our media with the standings. I have seen it reported that Cavan are relegated and that Mayo are guaranteed a league final appearance with a win.
Neither statement is correct.

While it is unlikely, if Cavan win, Ros draw and Monaghan lose and if Monaghan's losing margin plus Cavan's winning margin is greater than 5 (or equal to 5 and Cavan score 6 points more than Monaghan) then Cavan would stay up.

If Mayo, Galway and Kerry all win (or if Kerry draw), Mayo will finish third.
If Mayo and Galway win and Kerry lose, it would depend on margins. Mayo currently +7, Galway +0 and Kerry +11. Most likely Mayo and Kerry in this scenario, but could technically be any 2 of the three.
If Mayo draw and Tyrone beat Galway, Mayo would finish second by virtue of H2H win over Tyrone.
If Mayo draw and Galway draw or win, Galway would finish second.
If Mayo lose they cannot finish in the top 2.

The only way Kerry do not qualify for the final is if Mayo and Galway both win well and Kerry lose heavily. Galway win plus Kerry loss would need to be 12 points

Neglected to add - Tyrone can qualify for the league final with a win over Galway if Mayo lose to Monaghan.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on March 18, 2019, 08:12:32 AM
Quote from: the goal was on on March 17, 2019, 09:56:51 AM
Tyrone were excellent, dubs execution poor on night. There defence was missing fitzsimmonds mc Mahon mc caffrey and the wee boy who usually picks up sludden so they will tighten up there as things go on. Lost small too and James mc Carthy looked off the pace. The gap has closed and dubs forwards particularly there dubs not as dynamic as they were.
Agreed, fully deserved victory for Tyrone.

The return of those backs doesn't rectify our biggest weakness. We've nobody to win a high ball, one on one, against a good fielder. We've had that weakness since we lost O'Carroll, and it's amazing it hasn't cost us.

Wouldn't be surprised to see McCarthy switched back there if someone does try and expose that in the summer.

Good win for Mayo too. I think Ruane looks a find.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: omagh_gael on March 18, 2019, 09:41:09 AM
Our win over Dublin won't be important come the real stuff in the summer. However, the talk of Dublin coasting and not too bothered about the league doesn't sit with me. I might be wrong but Gavin strikes me as a man that hates to lose. He rolls out the usual platitudes in interviews but I'd be pretty certain he'd have been seriously gunning to get back into a league final.

They're obviously still well ahead of the pack but there is evidence that the gap might not be a wide as I would have thought at the beginning of the year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fuzzman on March 18, 2019, 01:54:34 PM
Gas reading the Mayo lads warning us not to get too caried away in case we think we're getting ideas about ourselves again.
For me, the main thing is to challenge Dublin to make them start having a few doubts and question themselves. They are so used to scoring a goal and they then just play with swagger. Their fans were getting a bit annoyed with the ref which they're not used to.
Funny watching J. Cantwell picking up Brolly on his choice of words on Morgan.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 18, 2019, 02:03:53 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 18, 2019, 01:54:34 PM
Gas reading the Mayo lads warning us not to get too caried away in case we think we're getting ideas about ourselves again.
For me, the main thing is to challenge Dublin to make them start having a few doubts and question themselves. They are so used to scoring a goal and they then just play with swagger. Their fans were getting a bit annoyed with the ref which they're not used to.
Funny watching J. Cantwell picking up Brolly on his choice of words on Morgan.

The league means nothing! And I include the tanking Tyrone got from Mayo in Omagh a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 18, 2019, 02:06:03 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on March 18, 2019, 01:54:34 PM
Gas reading the Mayo lads warning us not to get too caried away in case we think we're getting ideas about ourselves again.
Care to point out which ones?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 18, 2019, 02:32:44 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 18, 2019, 09:41:09 AM
Our win over Dublin won't be important come the real stuff in the summer. However, the talk of Dublin coasting and not too bothered about the league doesn't sit with me. I might be wrong but Gavin strikes me as a man that hates to lose. He rolls out the usual platitudes in interviews but I'd be pretty certain he'd have been seriously gunning to get back into a league final.

They're obviously still well ahead of the pack but there is evidence that the gap might not be a wide as I would have thought at the beginning of the year.

That was the most emotion i have seen him show in any after match interview, he looked furious as he remarked about the low level performance Dublin produced on Saturday night and seeing that he is a ruthless manager i wouldn't be surprised if a few high profile players are dropped to the bench for while.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on March 18, 2019, 04:19:25 PM
Tyrone v Galway should be a good match . All to
play for. Will any of the Corofin contingent be available?

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 18, 2019, 05:15:54 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 18, 2019, 02:32:44 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 18, 2019, 09:41:09 AM
Our win over Dublin won't be important come the real stuff in the summer. However, the talk of Dublin coasting and not too bothered about the league doesn't sit with me. I might be wrong but Gavin strikes me as a man that hates to lose. He rolls out the usual platitudes in interviews but I'd be pretty certain he'd have been seriously gunning to get back into a league final.

They're obviously still well ahead of the pack but there is evidence that the gap might not be a wide as I would have thought at the beginning of the year.

That was the most emotion i have seen him show in any after match interview, he looked furious as he remarked about the low level performance Dublin produced on Saturday night and seeing that he is a ruthless manager i wouldn't be surprised if a few high profile players are dropped to the bench for while.

Agree. Football's equivalent to Brian Cody.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on March 18, 2019, 05:49:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 18, 2019, 04:19:25 PM
Tyrone v Galway should be a good match . All to
play for. Will any of the Corofin contingent be available?

Will Galway be actively trying to win this one or strategically is it better for them to lose like the Monaghan super 8 game last year? It's hard to know with Galway!  ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 18, 2019, 06:43:24 PM
U got a Galway club team playing great attacking fball,  playing to their strengths. With the fball ability available to Kevin Walsh should he not try to get away from that defensive shit.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on March 18, 2019, 07:29:04 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 18, 2019, 06:43:24 PM
U got a Galway club team playing great attacking fball,  playing to their strengths. With the fball ability available to Kevin Walsh should he not try to get away from that defensive shit.

That's what most Galway supporters would love but really don't think it'll happen. That type of play is bred into these Corofin bucks from u-8s, I don't know how possible it would be to implement on an inter county level, it would take more than one season anyway I'd imagine. They're something else though, you could watch them all day.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 08:40:25 PM
Tyrone away was always going to be a very tough place to get a result but they are flying at the moment making it even harder, still there's a great chance to get to another league final there and at the outset of the league who would have put money on Galway being in with a shout of that going into the last round?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on March 18, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 08:40:25 PM
Tyrone away was always going to be a very tough place to get a result but they are flying at the moment making it even harder, still there's a great chance to get to another league final there and at the outset of the league who would have put money on Galway being in with a shout of that going into the last round?

Certainly not me, they've done really well in the circumstances in fairness to them. Be interesting to see how many or will any of the Corofin boys be togged next weekend, I think Jason Leonard could be a real addition to the panel. He's a real unsung hero of that Corofin team.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 18, 2019, 09:14:00 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 18, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 08:40:25 PM
Tyrone away was always going to be a very tough place to get a result but they are flying at the moment making it even harder, still there's a great chance to get to another league final there and at the outset of the league who would have put money on Galway being in with a shout of that going into the last round?

Certainly not me, they've done really well in the circumstances in fairness to them. Be interesting to see how many or will any of the Corofin boys be togged next weekend, I think Jason Leonard could be a real addition to the panel. He's a real unsung hero of that Corofin team.
I think (but am not 100% sure) he was in around the county setup at the start of the FBD although didn't get any game time.
He looks a decent player.
His sister is the star forward on the Galway ladies team
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on March 18, 2019, 09:25:32 PM
He played a couple of challenges I think but didn't hear anything about how he got on. Powers kick outs yesterday were immense, he really gave an exhibition but still dont think he'll get the nod ahead of Lavelle, he's a real victim of the club and county clash during the league. It's a pity he didn't get a run in a couple of the games Ian and Liam played.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 10:00:49 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 18, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 08:40:25 PM
Tyrone away was always going to be a very tough place to get a result but they are flying at the moment making it even harder, still there's a great chance to get to another league final there and at the outset of the league who would have put money on Galway being in with a shout of that going into the last round?

Certainly not me, they've done really well in the circumstances in fairness to them. Be interesting to see how many or will any of the Corofin boys be togged next weekend, I think Jason Leonard could be a real addition to the panel. He's a real unsung hero of that Corofin team.
Doubtful that any of the Corofin lads will be available for next week, they are entitled to celebrate and given that it's not do or die in terms of staying up I don't know that there's any need to push them to get back for it. That said I would not have expected any of them to feature in the league at all this year and they did so we'll see.
Ian Burke and Liam Silke will start in the summer but Molloy simply has to be given a shot at the 5 jersey, he is absolute quality and I'll be shocked if he's not up to that top inter county standard. I would love to see Daithi Burke in there as well but he'll stick to the small ball unfortunately. Outside of Power who'll be the sub goalie I don't know if there will be anyone else in there, due to their extended club runs the likes of Leonard and Wall don't get the chance to impress in the league that someone else such as Ó Laoí has taken with both hands.

Corofin are an amazing club team, the best I've seen but it's still a big leap from club to county, there's a lot of wild talk about at the minute, I had to listen to someone in CP yesterday who assured all around him that Corofin would beat the county team, with all due respect to that opinion, in a hypothetical game that actually mattered, assuming all played to form, there's not a notion of it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 18, 2019, 10:14:37 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 10:00:49 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 18, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 08:40:25 PM
Tyrone away was always going to be a very tough place to get a result but they are flying at the moment making it even harder, still there's a great chance to get to another league final there and at the outset of the league who would have put money on Galway being in with a shout of that going into the last round?

Certainly not me, they've done really well in the circumstances in fairness to them. Be interesting to see how many or will any of the Corofin boys be togged next weekend, I think Jason Leonard could be a real addition to the panel. He's a real unsung hero of that Corofin team.
Doubtful that any of the Corofin lads will be available for next week, they are entitled to celebrate and given that it's not do or die in terms of staying up I don't know that there's any need to push them to get back for it. That said I would not have expected any of them to feature in the league at all this year and they did so we'll see.
Ian Burke and Liam Silke will start in the summer but Molloy simply has to be given a shot at the 5 jersey, he is absolute quality and I'll be shocked if he's not up to that top inter county standard. I would love to see Daithi Burke in there as well but he'll stick to the small ball unfortunately. Outside of Power who'll be the sub goalie I don't know if there will be anyone else in there, due to their extended club runs the likes of Leonard and Wall don't get the chance to impress in the league that someone else such as Ó Laoí has taken with both hands.

Corofin are an amazing club team, the best I've seen but it's still a big leap from club to county, there's a lot of wild talk about at the minute, I had to listen to someone in CP yesterday who assured all around him that Corofin would beat the county team, with all due respect to that opinion, in a hypothetical game that actually mattered, assuming all played to form, there's not a notion of it.

They would struggle against a Division 4 team. That's not belittling Corofin, that's just giving the context of Club and County.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 18, 2019, 10:41:32 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 10:00:49 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 18, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 08:40:25 PM
Tyrone away was always going to be a very tough place to get a result but they are flying at the moment making it even harder, still there's a great chance to get to another league final there and at the outset of the league who would have put money on Galway being in with a shout of that going into the last round?

Certainly not me, they've done really well in the circumstances in fairness to them. Be interesting to see how many or will any of the Corofin boys be togged next weekend, I think Jason Leonard could be a real addition to the panel. He's a real unsung hero of that Corofin team.
Doubtful that any of the Corofin lads will be available for next week, they are entitled to celebrate and given that it's not do or die in terms of staying up I don't know that there's any need to push them to get back for it. That said I would not have expected any of them to feature in the league at all this year and they did so we'll see.
Ian Burke and Liam Silke will start in the summer but Molloy simply has to be given a shot at the 5 jersey, he is absolute quality and I'll be shocked if he's not up to that top inter county standard. I would love to see Daithi Burke in there as well but he'll stick to the small ball unfortunately. Outside of Power who'll be the sub goalie I don't know if there will be anyone else in there, due to their extended club runs the likes of Leonard and Wall don't get the chance to impress in the league that someone else such as Ó Laoí has taken with both hands.

Corofin are an amazing club team, the best I've seen but it's still a big leap from club to county, there's a lot of wild talk about at the minute, I had to listen to someone in CP yesterday who assured all around him that Corofin would beat the county team, with all due respect to that opinion, in a hypothetical game that actually mattered, assuming all played to form, there's not a notion of it.
Not even Galway with the entire Corofin contingent could put a dent in Tyrone's path of redemption. Tyrone are already the next coming, the next incumbents.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 19, 2019, 01:00:34 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 10:00:49 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 18, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 08:40:25 PM
Tyrone away was always going to be a very tough place to get a result but they are flying at the moment making it even harder, still there's a great chance to get to another league final there and at the outset of the league who would have put money on Galway being in with a shout of that going into the last round?

Certainly not me, they've done really well in the circumstances in fairness to them. Be interesting to see how many or will any of the Corofin boys be togged next weekend, I think Jason Leonard could be a real addition to the panel. He's a real unsung hero of that Corofin team.

Ian Burke and Liam Silke will start in the summer but Molloy simply has to be given a shot at the 5 jersey, he is absolute quality and I'll be shocked if he's not up to that top inter county standard. .

Molloy made some fetch over the head of Johnny Buckely at one stage. He's a tremendous athlete and rampages forward straight down the field and even when he passes the ball on he keeps going. Amazing how often he finds himself near the opposition goal. Still a bit raw in his decision making as he tries some wild shots but that's just experience.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 19, 2019, 01:21:43 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 10:00:49 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 18, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 08:40:25 PM
Tyrone away was always going to be a very tough place to get a result but they are flying at the moment making it even harder, still there's a great chance to get to another league final there and at the outset of the league who would have put money on Galway being in with a shout of that going into the last round?

Certainly not me, they've done really well in the circumstances in fairness to them. Be interesting to see how many or will any of the Corofin boys be togged next weekend, I think Jason Leonard could be a real addition to the panel. He's a real unsung hero of that Corofin team.
Doubtful that any of the Corofin lads will be available for next week, they are entitled to celebrate and given that it's not do or die in terms of staying up I don't know that there's any need to push them to get back for it. That said I would not have expected any of them to feature in the league at all this year and they did so we'll see.
Ian Burke and Liam Silke will start in the summer but Molloy simply has to be given a shot at the 5 jersey, he is absolute quality and I'll be shocked if he's not up to that top inter county standard. I would love to see Daithi Burke in there as well but he'll stick to the small ball unfortunately. Outside of Power who'll be the sub goalie I don't know if there will be anyone else in there, due to their extended club runs the likes of Leonard and Wall don't get the chance to impress in the league that someone else such as Ó Laoí has taken with both hands.

Corofin are an amazing club team, the best I've seen but it's still a big leap from club to county, there's a lot of wild talk about at the minute, I had to listen to someone in CP yesterday who assured all around him that Corofin would beat the county team, with all due respect to that opinion, in a hypothetical game that actually mattered, assuming all played to form, there's not a notion of it.

Who will drop out to allow Molloy to start in the half back line? At least one of O Donnell Bradshaw always starts on a Walsh team. Heaney and Kelly switch between half back and half forward. John Daly looks ahead in the pecking order and you have McDaid who could play the wing back role also.

At the moment the only Corofin players that look like certain starters for Galway this summer is Silke and Burke.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 19, 2019, 09:50:10 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 19, 2019, 01:21:43 AM
Who will drop out to allow Molloy to start in the half back line? At least one of O Donnell Bradshaw always starts on a Walsh team. Heaney and Kelly switch between half back and half forward. John Daly looks ahead in the pecking order and you have McDaid who could play the wing back role also.

Galway need to improve from last year all over but particularly in the HB line, if it's a choice between GOD and Molloy then go with the up and coming player. Everyone in the county could see that Ian Burke was top inter county level before he got a run, it was madness that it took so long for him to break into the team. Molloy looks the same to me, in that he looks better than what's already there but again he has to get the chance to show that. O'Donnell is a great player to have available as part of the squad but his days as a starter should be over if Galway want to progress to the next level, Walsh needs to be ruthless in his team selection but I have my doubts.
John Daly has done well and has been one of the bright spots of the league along with Ó Laoí but on all evidence to date of his management style, Kevin Walsh will retain Bradshaw at CHB for the championship.
McDaid could be the best of the lot in terms of potential but we haven't seen enough of him since 2017, he was one of Galway's worst performers against Cavan and just when he looked to be getting into his stride against Dublin he got a long term injury.

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At the moment the only Corofin players that look like certain starters for Galway this summer is Silke and Burke.
Definitely agree with that statement although I hope I'm wrong for the reasons I've outlined above.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 19, 2019, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 19, 2019, 01:21:43 AM
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Quote from: Duine Eile on March 18, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 08:40:25 PM
Tyrone away was always going to be a very tough place to get a result but they are flying at the moment making it even harder, still there's a great chance to get to another league final there and at the outset of the league who would have put money on Galway being in with a shout of that going into the last round?

Certainly not me, they've done really well in the circumstances in fairness to them. Be interesting to see how many or will any of the Corofin boys be togged next weekend, I think Jason Leonard could be a real addition to the panel. He's a real unsung hero of that Corofin team.
Doubtful that any of the Corofin lads will be available for next week, they are entitled to celebrate and given that it's not do or die in terms of staying up I don't know that there's any need to push them to get back for it. That said I would not have expected any of them to feature in the league at all this year and they did so we'll see.
Ian Burke and Liam Silke will start in the summer but Molloy simply has to be given a shot at the 5 jersey, he is absolute quality and I'll be shocked if he's not up to that top inter county standard. I would love to see Daithi Burke in there as well but he'll stick to the small ball unfortunately. Outside of Power who'll be the sub goalie I don't know if there will be anyone else in there, due to their extended club runs the likes of Leonard and Wall don't get the chance to impress in the league that someone else such as Ó Laoí has taken with both hands.

Corofin are an amazing club team, the best I've seen but it's still a big leap from club to county, there's a lot of wild talk about at the minute, I had to listen to someone in CP yesterday who assured all around him that Corofin would beat the county team, with all due respect to that opinion, in a hypothetical game that actually mattered, assuming all played to form, there's not a notion of it.

Who will drop out to allow Molloy to start in the half back line? At least one of O Donnell Bradshaw always starts on a Walsh team. Heaney and Kelly switch between half back and half forward. John Daly looks ahead in the pecking order and you have McDaid who could play the wing back role also. 

O'Donnell was mainly on the bench last year but has been starting more regularly recently but whether that's because there have been so many missing I don't know. Will be interesting to see what happens once Molloy, Kelly, McDaid and even Wall are all back available.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 19, 2019, 01:07:00 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 19, 2019, 12:36:21 PM
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Quote from: Duine Eile on March 18, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 08:40:25 PM
Tyrone away was always going to be a very tough place to get a result but they are flying at the moment making it even harder, still there's a great chance to get to another league final there and at the outset of the league who would have put money on Galway being in with a shout of that going into the last round?

Certainly not me, they've done really well in the circumstances in fairness to them. Be interesting to see how many or will any of the Corofin boys be togged next weekend, I think Jason Leonard could be a real addition to the panel. He's a real unsung hero of that Corofin team.
Doubtful that any of the Corofin lads will be available for next week, they are entitled to celebrate and given that it's not do or die in terms of staying up I don't know that there's any need to push them to get back for it. That said I would not have expected any of them to feature in the league at all this year and they did so we'll see.
Ian Burke and Liam Silke will start in the summer but Molloy simply has to be given a shot at the 5 jersey, he is absolute quality and I'll be shocked if he's not up to that top inter county standard. I would love to see Daithi Burke in there as well but he'll stick to the small ball unfortunately. Outside of Power who'll be the sub goalie I don't know if there will be anyone else in there, due to their extended club runs the likes of Leonard and Wall don't get the chance to impress in the league that someone else such as Ó Laoí has taken with both hands.

Corofin are an amazing club team, the best I've seen but it's still a big leap from club to county, there's a lot of wild talk about at the minute, I had to listen to someone in CP yesterday who assured all around him that Corofin would beat the county team, with all due respect to that opinion, in a hypothetical game that actually mattered, assuming all played to form, there's not a notion of it.

Who will drop out to allow Molloy to start in the half back line? At least one of O Donnell Bradshaw always starts on a Walsh team. Heaney and Kelly switch between half back and half forward. John Daly looks ahead in the pecking order and you have McDaid who could play the wing back role also. 

O'Donnell was mainly on the bench last year but has been starting more regularly recently but whether that's because there have been so many missing I don't know. Will be interesting to see what happens once Molloy, Kelly, McDaid and even Wall are all back available.

Agree with all of the above. I've no issue with Bradshaw starting, think he performs a very important role in the team and don't think John Daly is going to move him from there this year. O'Donnell is a good player and a decent sub to have but I'd doubt you'll speak to anyone who'll think he's a better player then Molloy; Molloy has some engine on him and given the way Galway plays I'd like to think he could be an important player. O'Donnell looks to have lost a bit of pace too which will be more noticeable in the summer when the ground hardens, will be surprised to see him start should Galway make the super 8's. Dylan Wall was very good on Sunday too, especially in the first half when he was exceptional.

The good news is the panel has a lot more depth to it this year, there'll be some very good players who won't make the matchday panel of 26.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on March 19, 2019, 01:30:46 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 18, 2019, 10:41:32 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 10:00:49 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 18, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 18, 2019, 08:40:25 PM
Tyrone away was always going to be a very tough place to get a result but they are flying at the moment making it even harder, still there's a great chance to get to another league final there and at the outset of the league who would have put money on Galway being in with a shout of that going into the last round?

Certainly not me, they've done really well in the circumstances in fairness to them. Be interesting to see how many or will any of the Corofin boys be togged next weekend, I think Jason Leonard could be a real addition to the panel. He's a real unsung hero of that Corofin team.
Doubtful that any of the Corofin lads will be available for next week, they are entitled to celebrate and given that it's not do or die in terms of staying up I don't know that there's any need to push them to get back for it. That said I would not have expected any of them to feature in the league at all this year and they did so we'll see.
Ian Burke and Liam Silke will start in the summer but Molloy simply has to be given a shot at the 5 jersey, he is absolute quality and I'll be shocked if he's not up to that top inter county standard. I would love to see Daithi Burke in there as well but he'll stick to the small ball unfortunately. Outside of Power who'll be the sub goalie I don't know if there will be anyone else in there, due to their extended club runs the likes of Leonard and Wall don't get the chance to impress in the league that someone else such as Ó Laoí has taken with both hands.

Corofin are an amazing club team, the best I've seen but it's still a big leap from club to county, there's a lot of wild talk about at the minute, I had to listen to someone in CP yesterday who assured all around him that Corofin would beat the county team, with all due respect to that opinion, in a hypothetical game that actually mattered, assuming all played to form, there's not a notion of it.
Not even Galway with the entire Corofin contingent could put a dent in Tyrone's path of redemption. Tyrone are already the next coming, the next incumbents.

It must be March
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on March 19, 2019, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 18, 2019, 02:32:44 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 18, 2019, 09:41:09 AM
Our win over Dublin won't be important come the real stuff in the summer. However, the talk of Dublin coasting and not too bothered about the league doesn't sit with me. I might be wrong but Gavin strikes me as a man that hates to lose. He rolls out the usual platitudes in interviews but I'd be pretty certain he'd have been seriously gunning to get back into a league final.

They're obviously still well ahead of the pack but there is evidence that the gap might not be a wide as I would have thought at the beginning of the year.

That was the most emotion i have seen him show in any after match interview, he looked furious as he remarked about the low level performance Dublin produced on Saturday night and seeing that he is a ruthless manager i wouldn't be surprised if a few high profile players are dropped to the bench for while.

Absolutely. Not getting to the league final was definitely not part of the plan.
Very hard to pinpoint what's not right.
As with the league every year there is always some experimentation, but it's the older lads rather than the younger lads who have dipped.
I'm definitely glad the mark isn't in for the summer!
I'd be very surprised if we don't lose a game in the summer, I just hope it comes before the AI Semi-Final, in which case we'll have a very good chance to bounce back.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: ziggysego on March 19, 2019, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on March 18, 2019, 03:05:51 AM
Brutal the level of ignorance in our media with the standings. I have seen it reported that Cavan are relegated and that Mayo are guaranteed a league final appearance with a win.
Neither statement is correct.

While it is unlikely, if Cavan win, Ros draw and Monaghan lose and if Monaghan's losing margin plus Cavan's winning margin is greater than 5 (or equal to 5 and Cavan score 6 points more than Monaghan) then Cavan would stay up.

If Mayo, Galway and Kerry all win (or if Kerry draw), Mayo will finish third.
If Mayo and Galway win and Kerry lose, it would depend on margins. Mayo currently +7, Galway +0 and Kerry +11. Most likely Mayo and Kerry in this scenario, but could technically be any 2 of the three.
If Mayo draw and Tyrone beat Galway, Mayo would finish second by virtue of H2H win over Tyrone.
If Mayo draw and Galway draw or win, Galway would finish second.
If Mayo lose they cannot finish in the top 2.

The only way Kerry do not qualify for the final is if Mayo and Galway both win well and Kerry lose heavily. Galway win plus Kerry loss would need to be 12 points

I agree. The best place to get the league standing is on Twitter at @GAALeagueTables (https://twitter.com/GAALeagueTables).
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: easytiger95 on March 19, 2019, 02:43:55 PM
Quote from: Hound on March 19, 2019, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 18, 2019, 02:32:44 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on March 18, 2019, 09:41:09 AM
Our win over Dublin won't be important come the real stuff in the summer. However, the talk of Dublin coasting and not too bothered about the league doesn't sit with me. I might be wrong but Gavin strikes me as a man that hates to lose. He rolls out the usual platitudes in interviews but I'd be pretty certain he'd have been seriously gunning to get back into a league final.

They're obviously still well ahead of the pack but there is evidence that the gap might not be a wide as I would have thought at the beginning of the year.

That was the most emotion i have seen him show in any after match interview, he looked furious as he remarked about the low level performance Dublin produced on Saturday night and seeing that he is a ruthless manager i wouldn't be surprised if a few high profile players are dropped to the bench for while.

Absolutely. Not getting to the league final was definitely not part of the plan.
Very hard to pinpoint what's not right.
As with the league every year there is always some experimentation, but it's the older lads rather than the younger lads who have dipped.
I'm definitely glad the mark isn't in for the summer!
I'd be very surprised if we don't lose a game in the summer, I just hope it comes before the AI Semi-Final, in which case we'll have a very good chance to bounce back.

Wouldn't completely agree with that diagnosis Hound. I was at the game on Saturday and one of the most frustrating performers for me was Con O'Callaghan. Really couldn't believe some of his decisions in the first half, in terms of continually going for goal rather than taking the score on offer, and when he did, for a man who is well able to kick a point from distance, he was dismal enough. He definitely hasn't pushed on in terms of becoming a dominating player. Davey Byrne also got eaten without salt.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mouview on March 19, 2019, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 18, 2019, 06:43:24 PM
U got a Galway club team playing great attacking fball,  playing to their strengths. With the fball ability available to Kevin Walsh should he not try to get away from that defensive shit.

Oddly enough, there are similarities to the way Corofin and Galway (and many county teams now) play. Often times playing across the back, playing laterally, until someone breaks forward at pace and then a quick interchange of hand passes followed by a score. Corofin just do it better than Galway though.

I've been as stern a critic of KW as anyone, and the performances this year v Rossies (FBD) and Kerry (both in Tuam) were very poor. However, there was much better balance between defense and attack in Castlebar and last Saturday wasn't the worst I've seen either. Maybe he's finally getting the compromise right and hopefully a few incoming Corofin players and eventual injury-returnees will boost things further. Hope they go to Omagh now and have a right go. Momentum at any time of the year is no harm.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 19, 2019, 04:08:10 PM
Had Tyrone gone long as much in the games against Cavan & Monaghan as they did on Saturday night?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 19, 2019, 06:49:22 PM
Bring bck Connolly!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on March 19, 2019, 07:13:00 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 19, 2019, 04:08:10 PM
Had Tyrone gone long as much in the games against Cavan & Monaghan as they did on Saturday night?

Running game against cavan mostly
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 19, 2019, 07:56:28 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 19, 2019, 07:13:00 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 19, 2019, 04:08:10 PM
Had Tyrone gone long as much in the games against Cavan & Monaghan as they did on Saturday night?

Running game against cavan mostly
Are you still hanging around the Div 1 thread, Itchy?  You're a dead man walking.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on March 19, 2019, 10:25:13 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 19, 2019, 07:56:28 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 19, 2019, 07:13:00 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 19, 2019, 04:08:10 PM
Had Tyrone gone long as much in the games against Cavan & Monaghan as they did on Saturday night?

Running game against cavan mostly
Are you still hanging around the Div 1 thread, Itchy?  You're a dead man walking.

I am, just to see who's coming with me.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 19, 2019, 10:29:06 PM
Quote from: mouview on March 19, 2019, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 18, 2019, 06:43:24 PM
U got a Galway club team playing great attacking fball,  playing to their strengths. With the fball ability available to Kevin Walsh should he not try to get away from that defensive shit.

Oddly enough, there are similarities to the way Corofin and Galway (and many county teams now) play. Often times playing across the back, playing laterally, until someone breaks forward at pace and then a quick interchange of hand passes followed by a score. Corofin just do it better than Galway though.

I've been as stern a critic of KW as anyone, and the performances this year v Rossies (FBD) and Kerry (both in Tuam) were very poor. However, there was much better balance between defense and attack in Castlebar and last Saturday wasn't the worst I've seen either. Maybe he's finally getting the compromise right and hopefully a few incoming Corofin players and eventual injury-returnees will boost things further. Hope they go to Omagh now and have a right go. Momentum at any time of the year is no harm.
Corofin kick pass the ball up the field
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on March 20, 2019, 09:09:38 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 18, 2019, 05:49:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 18, 2019, 04:19:25 PM
Tyrone v Galway should be a good match . All to
play for. Will any of the Corofin contingent be available?

Will Galway be actively trying to win this one or strategically is it better for them to lose like the Monaghan super 8 game last year? It's hard to know with Galway!  ::)
Mouview is optimistic about the footballers so Tyrone could be in for another learning session.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rosnarun on March 20, 2019, 09:21:21 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 19, 2019, 06:49:22 PM
Bring bck Connolly!!
is Gavin going to fall  by his own ego .
he has got so much right over the last few years has he begun to think he is infallible and ignore the most obvious solutions rather than his own much cleverer ones
Rugby Joe could be falling at the same fence as well
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GetOverTheBar on March 21, 2019, 09:45:36 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 19, 2019, 04:08:10 PM
Had Tyrone gone long as much in the games against Cavan & Monaghan as they did on Saturday night?

No, we are hoping Saturday is a watershed moment - he caught Dublin....and everyone off guard.

Remains to be seen if Harte will follow that up against Galway with something on the line. Somehow I suspect he'll revert to type and it'll be hell on Sunday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on March 21, 2019, 02:57:23 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 19, 2019, 10:25:13 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 19, 2019, 07:56:28 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 19, 2019, 07:13:00 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 19, 2019, 04:08:10 PM
Had Tyrone gone long as much in the games against Cavan & Monaghan as they did on Saturday night?

Running game against cavan mostly
Are you still hanging around the Div 1 thread, Itchy?  You're a dead man walking.

I am, just to see who's coming with me.

Touché!  ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on March 22, 2019, 10:53:43 AM
Mickey Graham said that it would take Cavan a while to get organised
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 22, 2019, 08:44:35 PM
Looks like no one has told Kerry that they are more or less into the final already. Probably the strongest team they have picked so far this year which is good news for Monaghan and not so good for Roscommon.

Shane Ryan - Rathmore
Peter Crowley - Laune Rangers
Jack Sherwood   - Firies
Graham O'Sullivan - Piarsaigh na Dromoda
Gavin Crowley - Templenoe
Paul Murphy - Rathmore
Tom O'Sullivan   - Dingle
Jack Barry   - Na Gaeil
Diarmuid O'Connor - Na Gaeil
Dara Moynihan   - Spa Killarney
Sean O'Shea   - Kenmare
Stephen O'Brien   - Kenmare
Kevin McCarthy   - Kilcummin
Tommy Walsh   - Kerins O'Rahillys
David Clifford   - Fossa

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 22, 2019, 08:48:09 PM
Mayo team for Sunday as they seek to reach the NFL final. Six changes from last weekend

David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
5. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. James McCormack - Claremorris
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
12. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber(C)
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. Darren Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Redhand Santa on March 22, 2019, 09:20:27 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on March 21, 2019, 09:45:36 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 19, 2019, 04:08:10 PM
Had Tyrone gone long as much in the games against Cavan & Monaghan as they did on Saturday night?

No, we are hoping Saturday is a watershed moment - he caught Dublin....and everyone off guard.

Remains to be seen if Harte will follow that up against Galway with something on the line. Somehow I suspect he'll revert to type and it'll be hell on Sunday.

Tyrone have been kicking the ball in throughout the league. It wasn't noticed by many in the first few games as the ball didn't stick. It was much more successful from the Monaghan game on when Mattie moved up there.

There was more kicked on Saturday night than the other games as Dublin push up and there was more room. Galway will be much more defensive so there won't be the same opportunity to kick early ball in and Tyrone will have to be more patient.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 22, 2019, 09:23:45 PM
Galway starting XV to face Tyrone
(NFL Div.1, Rd.7)

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdown)
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Anna, Leitir Móir)
4. David Wynne (Maigh Cuilinn)
5. Garry O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. John Daly (Mountbellew/Moylough)
7. Gareth Bradshaw (Maigh Cuilinn)
8. Tom Flynn (Athenry)
9. Ciaran Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Peter Cooke (Maigh Cuilinn)
11. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)
12. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
13. Danny Cummins (Claregalway)
14. Michael Daly (Mountbellew/Moylough)
15. Antaine Ó Laoí (An Spidéal)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 22, 2019, 11:43:10 PM
Rhus picking a team to make sure we go down :-\
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on March 23, 2019, 12:08:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 22, 2019, 11:43:10 PM
Rhus picking a team to make sure we go down :-\

;D ;D ;D

Or picking a team that makes sure we don't get to play in a pesky league final. Yeah, it's an FBD selection but that's the way it has been all along so not surprised really with this. Still is a good team though. Last week we had couple of lads selected that were lost but still won. That's the way with us I'm afraid.
It's a rubber match for us. A chance to give a few lads a spin. Monaghan should win but even if they don't they will probably be safe. On the other hand we could still win this.
Edit: On reflection this is probably a better team that started against Kerry.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 23, 2019, 11:14:41 AM
We've done a much better job than ye of avoiding the "pesky League Final" Moy ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on March 24, 2019, 01:55:05 PM
Barrett in for Plunkett. 5 changes for Mon
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: WT4E on March 24, 2019, 02:07:40 PM
Anyone having trouble with getting tyrone Galway game online? Any help?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Jim Bob on March 24, 2019, 02:14:03 PM
Quote from: WT4E on March 24, 2019, 02:07:40 PM
Anyone having trouble with getting tyrone Galway game online? Any help?

Yes. Saying video not available but showing that 1k are watching
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rashCharacter on March 24, 2019, 02:15:39 PM
Not working for me either.
Looks like its geoblocked - Access can be acquired in the 6 counties but you must connect from an NI / ROI IP address.
This is getting beyond a joke
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Dire Ear on March 24, 2019, 02:16:59 PM
 >:(
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Jim Bob on March 24, 2019, 02:29:04 PM
Quote from: Dire Ear on March 24, 2019, 02:16:59 PM
>:(

I used ipvanish to connect to Dublin ipaddress and watching through firebox
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Gold on March 24, 2019, 02:35:26 PM
Any linksmto it?

Isnt coming up on youtube for me
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on March 24, 2019, 02:36:37 PM
RTÉ

30 mins: Tyrone 0-06 Galway 1-08

Johnny Heaney pops up with his second point of the day followed by a monstrous score from Michael Daly. Brilliant scoring exhibition from both sides.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 02:44:43 PM
Good quality game between Tyrone and Galway with some great scores. Shane Walsh on fire. Tyrone have the breeze for the 2nd half though.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 02:45:04 PM
Shane Walsh outrageously good in that first half
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 02:47:50 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 02:44:43 PM
Good quality game between Tyrone and Galway with some great scores. Shane Walsh on fire. Tyrone have the breeze for the 2nd half though.
It's strong enough.kind of diagonal but blowing in favour of Tyrone now at the same time.
Hope it isn't a game of two halves.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 02:45:04 PM
Shane Walsh outrageously good in that first half
He's on fire at the minute, breeze is stiffening here if anything so we'll have to see how Galway cope going into it this half..
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 03:08:22 PM
Quick 1-2 for Tyrone. Great catch from McShane and then given a penalty. Not sure it was a pen to be honest. Looked minimal enough contact. Galway up against it now only 2 up into a stiffening wind.

Awful mix up leads to another Tyrone goal. Bad hand pass from Sean Andy back to Lavelle is intercepted by Mattie Donnelly and kicked into the net from 20 yards out.

Bad few minutes for Sean Andy as McShane got in behind him for the first goal too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 03:16:48 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 03:08:22 PM
Quick 1-2 for Tyrone. Great catch from McShane and then given a penalty. Not sure it was a pen to be honest. Looked minimal enough contact. Galway up against it now only 2 up into a stiffening wind.

Awful mix up leads to another Tyrone goal. Bad hand pass from Sean Andy back to Lavelle is intercepted by Mattie Donnelly and kicked into the net from 20 yards out.

Bad few minutes for Sean Andy as McShane got in behind him for the first goal too.
Sean Andy is a poor marker.
Teams that play us should be targeting him.
He has no pace and is not a tight marker.
Both goals his fault today
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 03:20:12 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 03:16:48 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 03:08:22 PM
Quick 1-2 for Tyrone. Great catch from McShane and then given a penalty. Not sure it was a pen to be honest. Looked minimal enough contact. Galway up against it now only 2 up into a stiffening wind.

Awful mix up leads to another Tyrone goal. Bad hand pass from Sean Andy back to Lavelle is intercepted by Mattie Donnelly and kicked into the net from 20 yards out.

Bad few minutes for Sean Andy as McShane got in behind him for the first goal too.
Sean Andy is a poor marker.
Teams that play us should be targeting him.
He has no pace and is not a tight marker.
Both goals his fault today

Needs to concentrate more on marking than charging up the field. Yeah disasterous 2 goals to concede so quickly and completely avoidable as they both came out of nothing. 2nd was a right balls up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 03:27:08 PM
Galway almost caught out again with no goalie and full back in position. Both out the field and ball turned over in midfield. Harte almost scored a goal from 50 yards.

Disasterous 2nd half here. Even allowing for the wind and rain in their faces.

O'Donnell red carded now.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 24, 2019, 03:27:36 PM
Mayo making hard work of this one.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 03:32:31 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 03:27:08 PM
Galway almost caught out again with no goalie and full back in position. Both out the field and ball turned over in midfield. Harte almost scored a goal from 50 yards.

Disasterous 2nd half here. Even allowing for the wind and rain in their faces.

O'Donnell red carded now.
Saw the replay of that - no way was that a straight red card.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 03:40:52 PM
Was Sean Andy on the gargle all last night? McShane gets in behind him for another high ball and it breaks down and is poked into the net. Horror show.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on March 24, 2019, 03:44:11 PM
What a cluster fcuk of a second half. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 03:46:40 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on March 24, 2019, 03:44:11 PM
What a cluster fcuk of a second half.

You could argue that all 3 goals were completely avoidable and they nearly conceded a 4th from an even bigger balls up. Throw in a black and a red card too. Some going.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on March 24, 2019, 03:53:03 PM
All goals avoidable and all the fault of Lavelle and Sean Andy. Ridiculous carry on, he's not good enough on the ball to be leaving his line the way way he does, he did the same thing against Mayo and nearly cost us that game too. The first half was fantastic, driving forward, kicking the ball and moving at speed, second half revert to type and get our arses handed to us. Clueless.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on March 24, 2019, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 03:32:31 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 03:27:08 PM
Galway almost caught out again with no goalie and full back in position. Both out the field and ball turned over in midfield. Harte almost scored a goal from 50 yards.

Disasterous 2nd half here. Even allowing for the wind and rain in their faces.

O'Donnell red carded now.
Saw the replay of that - no way was that a straight red card.

Was it not 2 yellows?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on March 24, 2019, 04:08:41 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 24, 2019, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 03:32:31 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 03:27:08 PM
Galway almost caught out again with no goalie and full back in position. Both out the field and ball turned over in midfield. Harte almost scored a goal from 50 yards.

Disasterous 2nd half here. Even allowing for the wind and rain in their faces.

O'Donnell red carded now.
Saw the replay of that - no way was that a straight red card.

Was it not 2 yellows?

That's what I thought, second yellow for a high tackle. Which was a bit stupid on O'Donnells part seeing as he was only after getting the first one. 🙄
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 04:11:46 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on March 24, 2019, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 03:32:31 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 03:27:08 PM
Galway almost caught out again with no goalie and full back in position. Both out the field and ball turned over in midfield. Harte almost scored a goal from 50 yards.

Disasterous 2nd half here. Even allowing for the wind and rain in their faces.

O'Donnell red carded now.
Saw the replay of that - no way was that a straight red card.

Was it not 2 yellows?
Ah that would make more sense. I thought I saw the ref flashing a straight red but must have been mistaken. No complaints if it was a second yellow.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on March 24, 2019, 04:14:57 PM
See ye in two year. Cant believe those feckin Rossies are coming with us again.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyCake on March 24, 2019, 04:36:11 PM
Am I right in saying that if that Roscommon player hadn't hit Niall Morgan and lost that late free v Tyrone, Roscommon would have stayed up?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 24, 2019, 04:38:01 PM
Think I read it's a double header with the hurling

Hard to know what to make of today
Did KMcL get the third goal or was it just kinda bundled in?
Who was that ref? Diabolically bad, thought he rode Monaghan in the first half, flipped start of second half and then was poor for both towards the end
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 24, 2019, 04:40:55 PM
Great to get to a league final, will be interesting to see how we do v Clifford, Geaney, Walsh and Seàn O'Se

Glad Horan did it without stacking any team selections, stuck with 5/6 young lads every game as opposed to young lads for the first few games and then experience at the end. Hope he keeps that for the final
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 24, 2019, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on March 24, 2019, 04:36:11 PM
Am I right in saying that if that Roscommon player hadn't hit Niall Morgan and lost that late free v Tyrone, Roscommon would have stayed up?

Yep, Harney's rush of blood, which also was the springboard for our 2019 renaissance :D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyCake on March 24, 2019, 04:51:39 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 24, 2019, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on March 24, 2019, 04:36:11 PM
Am I right in saying that if that Roscommon player hadn't hit Niall Morgan and lost that late free v Tyrone, Roscommon would have stayed up?

Yep, Harney's rush of blood, which also was the springboard for our 2019 renaissance :D

I had a feeling that would prove very costly.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on March 24, 2019, 05:04:43 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on March 24, 2019, 04:51:39 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 24, 2019, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on March 24, 2019, 04:36:11 PM
Am I right in saying that if that Roscommon player hadn't hit Niall Morgan and lost that late free v Tyrone, Roscommon would have stayed up?

Yep, Harney's rush of blood, which also was the springboard for our 2019 renaissance :D

I had a feeling that would prove very costly.

For the eye gouge alone they deserved to be relegated
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Solo_run on March 24, 2019, 05:47:20 PM
Division 1 next year is looking even more competitive

Donegal
Dublin
Galway
Kerry
Mayo
Meath
Monaghan
Tyrone
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 24, 2019, 06:29:32 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 24, 2019, 04:14:57 PM
See ye in two year. Cant believe those feckin Rossies are coming with us again.
https://youtu.be/-W3qBmjnENg?t=62 (https://youtu.be/-W3qBmjnENg?t=62)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 24, 2019, 06:32:50 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?
Most Monaghan sporting folk wanted to see this pairing in the final, that's why we held back a bit today.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Armagh18 on March 24, 2019, 06:35:03 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on March 24, 2019, 04:36:11 PM
Am I right in saying that if that Roscommon player hadn't hit Niall Morgan and lost that late free v Tyrone, Roscommon would have stayed up?
Hit? Typical Tyronie lay down crying as usual that day.😂😂
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyCake on March 24, 2019, 07:14:46 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 24, 2019, 06:35:03 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on March 24, 2019, 04:36:11 PM
Am I right in saying that if that Roscommon player hadn't hit Niall Morgan and lost that late free v Tyrone, Roscommon would have stayed up?
Hit? Typical Tyronie lay down crying as usual that day.😂😂

Morgan did what he had to do. He got Tyrone the draw. And to be honest, the Roscommon boy made it very easy for Morgan to go down, and he made it very easy for the ref to hop the ball.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: cadhlancian on March 24, 2019, 07:29:41 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 24, 2019, 06:35:03 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on March 24, 2019, 04:36:11 PM
Am I right in saying that if that Roscommon player hadn't hit Niall Morgan and lost that late free v Tyrone, Roscommon would have stayed up?
Hit? Typical Tyronie lay down crying as usual that day.😂😂
Head back over to the Div 2 or 3 thread , there's a good lad...
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Over the Bar on March 24, 2019, 07:32:00 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 24, 2019, 06:35:03 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on March 24, 2019, 04:36:11 PM
Am I right in saying that if that Roscommon player hadn't hit Niall Morgan and lost that late free v Tyrone, Roscommon would have stayed up?
Hit? Typical Tyronie lay down crying as usual that day.😂😂

Ach sure even the boul' Francie Bellew hit the deck without being touched knowing that his Armagh side had limited talent and they'd win feck all otherwise... ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 24, 2019, 07:34:14 PM
We were well bet today by a far superior, slicker team who out did us in every aspect of the game executed at speed.
We were slow, sideways walking pace in all our efforts.
Good to see Diarmuid back . One peach of a point.
A lot for Anthony C to think about especially how a system/game plan which worked so well in the first 3 games disintegrated in the last 4.
Blaming Harney for relegation while technically correct is wrong because we fkd up totally v Cavan especially and Galway too.
3 points from 14 deserves relegation but yet with 4 we'd have stayed up.
With a month of club activity and then 2 weeks to the Laythrum game it's hard to see things turning round for the Summer.
A Round 3 exit at best I suspect.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 24, 2019, 03:53:03 PM
All goals avoidable and all the fault of Lavelle and Sean Andy. Ridiculous carry on, he's not good enough on the ball to be leaving his line the way way he does, he did the same thing against Mayo and nearly cost us that game too. The first half was fantastic, driving forward, kicking the ball and moving at speed, second half revert to type and get our arses handed to us. Clueless.
Livid after that second half to be honest, fair play to Tyrone who absolutely upped it but I've rarely seen a team f**k away a winnable match as Galway did today. I didn't expect to get the win going up but the performance was the main thing and given the context of how the match went, that was simply disastrous for Galway, I'm trying not to overreact but we're left with nothing but doubts over a number of key areas now going into the championship. A game of two halves but the wind should not have been a factor really, it was not like Castlebar earlier this year.

Sean Andy got the mother and father of all roastings from McShane, absolutely cleaned out from minute one. How he stayed on the pitch is beyond comprehension, any change would have been better than leaving it as it was. Lavelle has to take some big blame today as well - I mean Harte could have scored from 50 yards out into an empty goal - but that was as bad as it gets from O'Ceallaigh.

It might be "only the league" but I thought we were past mental collapses like that, a league final berth was there for the taking. Absolutely ridiculous stuff from Galway and it takes the gloss off what was a fairly successful league up until we came out for the second half today.
What state is their mindset after that, the only saving grace is that it wasn't in the championship and that it's better for that damage to be seen before the summer.
Whatever positives were there from the first half (some great play from the Dalys and Walsh) are irrelevant in light of what happened after the change around, June is a long way away but there is massive work to be done, I don't care how many players are going to come back in if a team can commit seppuku so easily what happens the next time we're in a really tough spot?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 07:53:22 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 24, 2019, 03:53:03 PM
All goals avoidable and all the fault of Lavelle and Sean Andy. Ridiculous carry on, he's not good enough on the ball to be leaving his line the way way he does, he did the same thing against Mayo and nearly cost us that game too. The first half was fantastic, driving forward, kicking the ball and moving at speed, second half revert to type and get our arses handed to us. Clueless.
Livid after that second half to be honest, fair play to Tyrone who absolutely upped it but I've rarely seen a team f**k away a winnable match as Galway did today. I didn't expect to get the win going up but the performance was the main thing and given the context of how the match went, that was simply disastrous for Galway, I'm trying not to overreact but we're left with nothing but doubts over a number of key areas now going into the championship. A game of two halves but the wind should not have been a factor really, it was not like Castlebar earlier this year.

Sean Andy got the mother and father of all roastings from McShane, absolutely cleaned out from minute one. How he stayed on the pitch is beyond comprehension, any change would have been better than leaving it as it was. Lavelle has to take some big blame today as well - I mean Harte could have scored from 50 yards out into an empty goal - but that was as bad as it gets from O'Ceallaigh.

It might be "only the league" but I thought we were past mental collapses like that, a league final berth was there for the taking. Absolutely ridiculous stuff from Galway and it takes the gloss off what was a fairly successful league up until we came out for the second half today.
What state is their mindset after that, the only saving grace is that it wasn't in the championship and that it's better for that damage to be seen before the summer.
Whatever positives were there from the first half (some great play from the Dalys and Walsh) are irrelevant in light of what happened after the change around, June is a long way away but there is massive work to be done, I don't care how many players are going to come back in if a team can commit seppuku so easily what happens the next time we're in a really tough spot?

I'm going with Sean Andy was on the batter last night because he seemed to have no idea where McShane was at any given time and McShane is a big lad. He's not exactly easy to miss. Honestly as bad a full-back display as I've ever seen. It was almost bizarre. That said it's still his spot because the only other options are Duane and Cunnane. He needs a bit of a talking to after that though. Himself and Lavelle are not there to solo the ball up the field. Leave that to the footballers.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 08:08:52 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 07:53:22 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 24, 2019, 03:53:03 PM
All goals avoidable and all the fault of Lavelle and Sean Andy. Ridiculous carry on, he's not good enough on the ball to be leaving his line the way way he does, he did the same thing against Mayo and nearly cost us that game too. The first half was fantastic, driving forward, kicking the ball and moving at speed, second half revert to type and get our arses handed to us. Clueless.
Livid after that second half to be honest, fair play to Tyrone who absolutely upped it but I've rarely seen a team f**k away a winnable match as Galway did today. I didn't expect to get the win going up but the performance was the main thing and given the context of how the match went, that was simply disastrous for Galway, I'm trying not to overreact but we're left with nothing but doubts over a number of key areas now going into the championship. A game of two halves but the wind should not have been a factor really, it was not like Castlebar earlier this year.

Sean Andy got the mother and father of all roastings from McShane, absolutely cleaned out from minute one. How he stayed on the pitch is beyond comprehension, any change would have been better than leaving it as it was. Lavelle has to take some big blame today as well - I mean Harte could have scored from 50 yards out into an empty goal - but that was as bad as it gets from O'Ceallaigh.

It might be "only the league" but I thought we were past mental collapses like that, a league final berth was there for the taking. Absolutely ridiculous stuff from Galway and it takes the gloss off what was a fairly successful league up until we came out for the second half today.
What state is their mindset after that, the only saving grace is that it wasn't in the championship and that it's better for that damage to be seen before the summer.
Whatever positives were there from the first half (some great play from the Dalys and Walsh) are irrelevant in light of what happened after the change around, June is a long way away but there is massive work to be done, I don't care how many players are going to come back in if a team can commit seppuku so easily what happens the next time we're in a really tough spot?

I'm going with Sean Andy was on the batter last night because he seemed to have no idea where McShane was at any given time and McShane is a big lad. He's not exactly easy to miss. Honestly as bad a full-back display as I've ever seen. It was almost bizarre. That said it's still his spot because the only other options are Duane and Cunnane. He needs a bit of a talking to after that though. Himself and Lavelle are not there to solo the ball up the field. Leave that to the footballers.
We're not overflowing with options alright for number 3.
Maybe Liam Silke could do a job there I dunno.
Declan Kyne will also come into the reckoning - it's hard to know to be honest what will happen now.
It's not as if this is some one-off performance either he has been poor in several league games this year.
Thank God it's only March is all that I can say
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 24, 2019, 08:16:10 PM
Mayo v Kerry final as expected before today games and Cavan,Roscommon relegated as expected before any league game was played this year but Monaghan are lucky to stay up and can thank Cavan for bringing the rossies down to Div 2 with them.

A few strange scorelines today, Mayo conceding 1-17 today by far the biggest score they have conceded in this league which i think still shows the importance of Keegan,Higgins,Boyle to the side.

Biggest score Galway have conceded in a league group game for ages and that score conceded and margin of defeat might open the door for a few Corofin defenders now.

No surprise with the big score Kerry got as they will always score big against sides that defend poorly against them and had Clifford back today to boost their scoring power.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 08:21:51 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 24, 2019, 03:53:03 PM
All goals avoidable and all the fault of Lavelle and Sean Andy. Ridiculous carry on, he's not good enough on the ball to be leaving his line the way way he does, he did the same thing against Mayo and nearly cost us that game too. The first half was fantastic, driving forward, kicking the ball and moving at speed, second half revert to type and get our arses handed to us. Clueless.
Livid after that second half to be honest, fair play to Tyrone who absolutely upped it but I've rarely seen a team f**k away a winnable match as Galway did today. I didn't expect to get the win going up but the performance was the main thing and given the context of how the match went, that was simply disastrous for Galway, I'm trying not to overreact but we're left with nothing but doubts over a number of key areas now going into the championship. A game of two halves but the wind should not have been a factor really, it was not like Castlebar earlier this year.

Sean Andy got the mother and father of all roastings from McShane, absolutely cleaned out from minute one. How he stayed on the pitch is beyond comprehension, any change would have been better than leaving it as it was. Lavelle has to take some big blame today as well - I mean Harte could have scored from 50 yards out into an empty goal - but that was as bad as it gets from O'Ceallaigh.

It might be "only the league" but I thought we were past mental collapses like that, a league final berth was there for the taking. Absolutely ridiculous stuff from Galway and it takes the gloss off what was a fairly successful league up until we came out for the second half today.
What state is their mindset after that, the only saving grace is that it wasn't in the championship and that it's better for that damage to be seen before the summer.
Whatever positives were there from the first half (some great play from the Dalys and Walsh) are irrelevant in light of what happened after the change around, June is a long way away but there is massive work to be done, I don't care how many players are going to come back in if a team can commit seppuku so easily what happens the next time we're in a really tough spot?
One other thing that I can't fathom about this team - if you take Kerin & Sean Andy in particular.
It is very obvious that they are not comfortable in possession of the ball driving out from the back.
With every solo they take they look more and more likely to cede possession back to the opposition.
We've been caught for turnover scores as a result on numerous occasions in this league campaign yet they continue to do it.
There needs to be a realisation that this weakness exists and have them hand possession off to the next man rather than run into trouble.
Club teams have corner backs that aren't good on the ball but are smart enough to know it andpop it off before they get into bother.
Anyway June is a long way off yet.
For once we have a favorable c'ship draw so it's not all doom and gloom I guess.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 08:22:37 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 07:53:22 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 24, 2019, 03:53:03 PM
All goals avoidable and all the fault of Lavelle and Sean Andy. Ridiculous carry on, he's not good enough on the ball to be leaving his line the way way he does, he did the same thing against Mayo and nearly cost us that game too. The first half was fantastic, driving forward, kicking the ball and moving at speed, second half revert to type and get our arses handed to us. Clueless.
Livid after that second half to be honest, fair play to Tyrone who absolutely upped it but I've rarely seen a team f**k away a winnable match as Galway did today. I didn't expect to get the win going up but the performance was the main thing and given the context of how the match went, that was simply disastrous for Galway, I'm trying not to overreact but we're left with nothing but doubts over a number of key areas now going into the championship. A game of two halves but the wind should not have been a factor really, it was not like Castlebar earlier this year.

Sean Andy got the mother and father of all roastings from McShane, absolutely cleaned out from minute one. How he stayed on the pitch is beyond comprehension, any change would have been better than leaving it as it was. Lavelle has to take some big blame today as well - I mean Harte could have scored from 50 yards out into an empty goal - but that was as bad as it gets from O'Ceallaigh.

It might be "only the league" but I thought we were past mental collapses like that, a league final berth was there for the taking. Absolutely ridiculous stuff from Galway and it takes the gloss off what was a fairly successful league up until we came out for the second half today.
What state is their mindset after that, the only saving grace is that it wasn't in the championship and that it's better for that damage to be seen before the summer.
Whatever positives were there from the first half (some great play from the Dalys and Walsh) are irrelevant in light of what happened after the change around, June is a long way away but there is massive work to be done, I don't care how many players are going to come back in if a team can commit seppuku so easily what happens the next time we're in a really tough spot?

I'm going with Sean Andy was on the batter last night because he seemed to have no idea where McShane was at any given time and McShane is a big lad. He's not exactly easy to miss. Honestly as bad a full-back display as I've ever seen. It was almost bizarre. That said it's still his spot because the only other options are Duane and Cunnane. He needs a bit of a talking to after that though. Himself and Lavelle are not there to solo the ball up the field. Leave that to the footballers.
It's possible that it's the worst roasting I've ever seen at this level, mainly because there's no way someone who is playing so bad would normally see out the full match. KW should have made some change, I don't care if the options are limited, it couldn't have been any worse. He should be hooked for the London match as he's not playing well in general, there's no way Declan Kyne wouldn't be an improvement there at the minute.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Raginbull on March 24, 2019, 08:25:00 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 08:08:52 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 07:53:22 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 24, 2019, 03:53:03 PM
All goals avoidable and all the fault of Lavelle and Sean Andy. Ridiculous carry on, he's not good enough on the ball to be leaving his line the way way he does, he did the same thing against Mayo and nearly cost us that game too. The first half was fantastic, driving forward, kicking the ball and moving at speed, second half revert to type and get our arses handed to us. Clueless.
Livid after that second half to be honest, fair play to Tyrone who absolutely upped it but I've rarely seen a team f**k away a winnable match as Galway did today. I didn't expect to get the win going up but the performance was the main thing and given the context of how the match went, that was simply disastrous for Galway, I'm trying not to overreact but we're left with nothing but doubts over a number of key areas now going into the championship. A game of two halves but the wind should not have been a factor really, it was not like Castlebar earlier this year.

Sean Andy got the mother and father of all roastings from McShane, absolutely cleaned out from minute one. How he stayed on the pitch is beyond comprehension, any change would have been better than leaving it as it was. Lavelle has to take some big blame today as well - I mean Harte could have scored from 50 yards out into an empty goal - but that was as bad as it gets from O'Ceallaigh.

It might be "only the league" but I thought we were past mental collapses like that, a league final berth was there for the taking. Absolutely ridiculous stuff from Galway and it takes the gloss off what was a fairly successful league up until we came out for the second half today.
What state is their mindset after that, the only saving grace is that it wasn't in the championship and that it's better for that damage to be seen before the summer.
Whatever positives were there from the first half (some great play from the Dalys and Walsh) are irrelevant in light of what happened after the change around, June is a long way away but there is massive work to be done, I don't care how many players are going to come back in if a team can commit seppuku so easily what happens the next time we're in a really tough spot?

I'm going with Sean Andy was on the batter last night because he seemed to have no idea where McShane was at any given time and McShane is a big lad. He's not exactly easy to miss. Honestly as bad a full-back display as I've ever seen. It was almost bizarre. That said it's still his spot because the only other options are Duane and Cunnane. He needs a bit of a talking to after that though. Himself and Lavelle are not there to solo the ball up the field. Leave that to the footballers.
We're not overflowing with options alright for number 3.
Maybe Liam Silke could do a job there I dunno.
Declan Kyne will also come into the reckoning - it's hard to know to be honest what will happen now.
It's not as if this is some one-off performance either he has been poor in several league games this year.
Thank God it's only March is all that I can say

He's carrying too much bulk to be as athletic as he needs to be and certainly not mobile enough to be getting up and down the pitch. He's a full back and should man the square going out 30 to 40m at most with ball in hand. Lavelle should never leave the goal. He can't solo for shit.

The lads that should be bombing forward look like they're out for a Sunday stroll. G'OD and Bradshaw offer no pace going forward.

The worst thing is, KW will look at this and say we conceded 3 goals because we weren't defensive enough.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 08:27:28 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 08:21:51 PM
For once we have a favorable c'ship draw so it's not all doom and gloom I guess.
Can you imagine planning for facing into a first round Connacht match against Mayo after that? Mother of Jaysus.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Raginbull on March 24, 2019, 08:30:54 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 08:27:28 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 08:21:51 PM
For once we have a favorable c'ship draw so it's not all doom and gloom I guess.
Can you imagine planning for facing into a first round Connacht match against Mayo after that? Mother of Jaysus.

Don't worry we'd go full blanket against mayo and come out on top then get the shit kickec out of us by Roscommon
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on March 24, 2019, 08:34:30 PM
Good win today and nice to be in a league final, would be great to win it. McLoughlin, Boland, Harrison and Doc all very good I thought. Ruane good again also before he went off, Gibbons didn't do well when he came on. Some very good movement in the forwards at times although we didn't always get scores from it

Any word on Clarke's injury?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 24, 2019, 08:38:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 08:22:37 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 24, 2019, 07:53:22 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 07:37:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on March 24, 2019, 03:53:03 PM
All goals avoidable and all the fault of Lavelle and Sean Andy. Ridiculous carry on, he's not good enough on the ball to be leaving his line the way way he does, he did the same thing against Mayo and nearly cost us that game too. The first half was fantastic, driving forward, kicking the ball and moving at speed, second half revert to type and get our arses handed to us. Clueless.
Livid after that second half to be honest, fair play to Tyrone who absolutely upped it but I've rarely seen a team f**k away a winnable match as Galway did today. I didn't expect to get the win going up but the performance was the main thing and given the context of how the match went, that was simply disastrous for Galway, I'm trying not to overreact but we're left with nothing but doubts over a number of key areas now going into the championship. A game of two halves but the wind should not have been a factor really, it was not like Castlebar earlier this year.

Sean Andy got the mother and father of all roastings from McShane, absolutely cleaned out from minute one. How he stayed on the pitch is beyond comprehension, any change would have been better than leaving it as it was. Lavelle has to take some big blame today as well - I mean Harte could have scored from 50 yards out into an empty goal - but that was as bad as it gets from O'Ceallaigh.

It might be "only the league" but I thought we were past mental collapses like that, a league final berth was there for the taking. Absolutely ridiculous stuff from Galway and it takes the gloss off what was a fairly successful league up until we came out for the second half today.
What state is their mindset after that, the only saving grace is that it wasn't in the championship and that it's better for that damage to be seen before the summer.
Whatever positives were there from the first half (some great play from the Dalys and Walsh) are irrelevant in light of what happened after the change around, June is a long way away but there is massive work to be done, I don't care how many players are going to come back in if a team can commit seppuku so easily what happens the next time we're in a really tough spot?

I'm going with Sean Andy was on the batter last night because he seemed to have no idea where McShane was at any given time and McShane is a big lad. He's not exactly easy to miss. Honestly as bad a full-back display as I've ever seen. It was almost bizarre. That said it's still his spot because the only other options are Duane and Cunnane. He needs a bit of a talking to after that though. Himself and Lavelle are not there to solo the ball up the field. Leave that to the footballers.
It's possible that it's the worst roasting I've ever seen at this level, mainly because there's no way someone who is playing so bad would normally see out the full match. KW should have made some change, I don't care if the options are limited, it couldn't have been any worse. He should be hooked for the London match as he's not playing well in general, there's no way Declan Kyne wouldn't be an improvement there at the minute.
Don't think Kyne was on the bench today?
I remember commenting to one of the lads before one of the first games (I think it might have been the Ros Fbd game) that Sean Andy actually looked very out of shape and heavy.
It will be interesting to see what defensive changes happen between now and c'ship.
Honestly Liam Silke is the only player guaranteed to come in.
That full back line is very worrying though.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on March 24, 2019, 08:53:30 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 24, 2019, 08:34:30 PM
Good win today and nice to be in a league final, would be great to win it. McLoughlin, Boland, Harrison and Doc all very good I thought. Ruane good again also before he went off, Gibbons didn't do well when he came on. Some very good movement in the forwards at times although we didn't always get scores from it

Any word on Clarke's injury?

I thought Darren Coen did very well at full forward winning ball and linking the play. Great composure from McLoughlin for the 2 goals.

Conceded a big score which would be a worry heading into a game against Kerry. Clarke was out on the pitch after the game and looked okay. Think it might have been a knock to the head that forced him off.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on March 24, 2019, 08:57:03 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 24, 2019, 08:16:10 PM
Mayo v Kerry final as expected before today games and Cavan,Roscommon relegated as expected before any league game was played this year but Monaghan are lucky to stay up and can thank Cavan for bringing the rossies down to Div 2 with them.

A few strange scorelines today, Mayo conceding 1-17 today by far the biggest score they have conceded in this league which i think still shows the importance of Keegan,Higgins,Boyle to the side.

Biggest score Galway have conceded in a league group game for ages and that score conceded and margin of defeat might open the door for a few Corofin defenders now.

No surprise with the big score Kerry got as they will always score big against sides that defend poorly against them and had Clifford back today to boost their scoring power.

Keegan, Higgins and Boyle played against Dublin when we were wide open at the back. I think a big difference today was the fine weather. Our games against Roscommon, Galway and Kerry were played in horrendous conditions. That will always lead to a low scoring game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on March 24, 2019, 11:34:46 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on March 24, 2019, 08:53:30 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 24, 2019, 08:34:30 PM
Good win today and nice to be in a league final, would be great to win it. McLoughlin, Boland, Harrison and Doc all very good I thought. Ruane good again also before he went off, Gibbons didn't do well when he came on. Some very good movement in the forwards at times although we didn't always get scores from it

Any word on Clarke's injury?

I thought Darren Coen did very well at full forward winning ball and linking the play. Great composure from McLoughlin for the 2 goals.

Conceded a big score which would be a worry heading into a game against Kerry. Clarke was out on the pitch after the game and looked okay. Think it might have been a knock to the head that forced him off.

A concussion I suspect. Surprised that was not shown on highlights on TV. It was brilliant piece of goalkeeping and thought he took a late cheap shot to the head.
If it wasn't an accident it should have been red imo. Yet the ref. gave a yellow. It should have been no card or red card.

Yeah, we conceded a big score. Hard to fathom. A few things. It was never going to be a must win. We got into good leads and then seemed to coast a bit. To be fair though Monaghan did kick some very good scores as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: omagh_gael on March 25, 2019, 12:20:22 AM
Talk about a game of two halves in Omagh. That was some turnaround. First time I've seen Shane Walsh live in action, he's a real Rolls Royce of a player. Glides along the field and is so fast moving with the ball. Hard wee nut too as he put Hampsey on his hole at one point and he's no soft touch.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on March 25, 2019, 08:53:56 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?
A Mayo win would be great start for the second coming
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 25, 2019, 09:50:23 AM
Watched the full match last night and watched the highlights too, how can O'Se & McStay not mention that all 3 goals came off Sean Andy mistakes although it was never a pen but still doesn't gloss over the fact Sean Andy lost McShane. He's going to get targeted this summer but I'm sure Kevin Walsh will work on it in training extensively. I know he had more cover in the 1st half but you can put that down to the wind as Tyrone couldn't get the ball in quick enough and allowed Galway to get a man back.

Galway had put themselves in a great position at half time but instead of dictating the 2nd half they left themselves chasing the game 10 minutes into the half and with Tyrone playing with the strong wind which meant it extremely difficult for Galway to kick scores especially with the way Tyrone had set up. Unlike in the bad years it wasn't a complete meltdown by the team, its 3 bad mistakes involving 2 individuals but its 90% Sean Andy's fault. Kerin has to cut out the daft black cards, come at at time when Galway were well in the match and affected Galways ability to regroup. Duggan a loss at midfield, D'Arcy will stay 5th choice midfielder after that performance; I've criticised Duggan during the league but it was clear to see he was missed the 2nd half. Injuries and the missing Corofin contingent came back to haunt us yesterday, not enough on the bench to be able to change it. Lost far too many of our own kickouts too in the 2nd half. I know I'm always on his case but Gary O'Donnell offered very little going forward yesterday. A couple of weeks ago I thought Bradshaw was still a cert to start at centre half back come the championship but he's really given John Daly a lot of game time in that role so I'm not so sure any more.

Overall its been a really good league despite the disappointment of yesterday, I genuinely would have been happy with staying up and Galway have done a lot better than all the posters on here expected and found a couple of players. John Daly looks at home at this level and O'Laoi despite being a little light will be another option in the coming years and also good to see Danny Cummins back in great shape too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on March 25, 2019, 10:20:05 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 07:37:40 PM
I mean Harte could have scored from 50 yards out into an empty goal

Sounds interesting!

Can anyone describe the passage of play that led to this, and what kind of attempt did Harte make?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: bigpackiechestout on March 25, 2019, 11:12:31 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 25, 2019, 09:50:23 AM
Watched the full match last night and watched the highlights too, how can O'Se & McStay not mention that all 3 goals came off Sean Andy mistakes although it was never a pen but still doesn't gloss over the fact Sean Andy lost McShane. He's going to get targeted this summer but I'm sure Kevin Walsh will work on it in training extensively. I know he had more cover in the 1st half but you can put that down to the wind as Tyrone couldn't get the ball in quick enough and allowed Galway to get a man back.

Galway had put themselves in a great position at half time but instead of dictating the 2nd half they left themselves chasing the game 10 minutes into the half and with Tyrone playing with the strong wind which meant it extremely difficult for Galway to kick scores especially with the way Tyrone had set up. Unlike in the bad years it wasn't a complete meltdown by the team, its 3 bad mistakes involving 2 individuals but its 90% Sean Andy's fault. Kerin has to cut out the daft black cards, come at at time when Galway were well in the match and affected Galways ability to regroup. Duggan a loss at midfield, D'Arcy will stay 5th choice midfielder after that performance; I've criticised Duggan during the league but it was clear to see he was missed the 2nd half. Injuries and the missing Corofin contingent came back to haunt us yesterday, not enough on the bench to be able to change it. Lost far too many of our own kickouts too in the 2nd half. I know I'm always on his case but Gary O'Donnell offered very little going forward yesterday. A couple of weeks ago I thought Bradshaw was still a cert to start at centre half back come the championship but he's really given John Daly a lot of game time in that role so I'm not so sure any more.

Overall its been a really good league despite the disappointment of yesterday, I genuinely would have been happy with staying up and Galway have done a lot better than all the posters on here expected and found a couple of players. John Daly looks at home at this level and O'Laoi despite being a little light will be another option in the coming years and also good to see Danny Cummins back in great shape too.

It was a stonewall pen. Kerin barged into the back of McShane without playing the ball just as he was getting away
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 25, 2019, 11:17:03 AM
On goalies being out of the goal, Beggan came out a few times and Monaghan lost the ball up in the Mayo half back line, lads losing their life over why it wasn't kicked down into the empty goal. No account for them being over 100yards from it, the ball being too heavy to even kick that far and the four or five Monaghan backs being in their positions. It was laughable
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: LeoMc on March 25, 2019, 11:23:29 AM
Quote from: Hound on March 25, 2019, 10:20:05 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 07:37:40 PM
I mean Harte could have scored from 50 yards out into an empty goal

Sounds interesting!

Can anyone describe the passage of play that led to this, and what kind of attempt did Harte make?

Galway lost possession with the keeper way out the field. He hit it about a foot high and a yard wide.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyCake on March 25, 2019, 11:30:12 AM
Re: goalies left stranded. It's amazing how many times it happens now, yet no defenders read the situation and anticipate a turnover and an empty goal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on March 25, 2019, 11:41:27 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on March 25, 2019, 11:23:29 AM
Quote from: Hound on March 25, 2019, 10:20:05 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 07:37:40 PM
I mean Harte could have scored from 50 yards out into an empty goal

Sounds interesting!

Can anyone describe the passage of play that led to this, and what kind of attempt did Harte make?

Galway lost possession with the keeper way out the field. He hit it about a foot high and a yard wide.

Sounds familiar

https://youtu.be/Ck1Gncwz96M
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 25, 2019, 12:03:55 PM
Quote from: bigpackiechestout on March 25, 2019, 11:12:31 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 25, 2019, 09:50:23 AM
Watched the full match last night and watched the highlights too, how can O'Se & McStay not mention that all 3 goals came off Sean Andy mistakes although it was never a pen but still doesn't gloss over the fact Sean Andy lost McShane. He's going to get targeted this summer but I'm sure Kevin Walsh will work on it in training extensively. I know he had more cover in the 1st half but you can put that down to the wind as Tyrone couldn't get the ball in quick enough and allowed Galway to get a man back.

Galway had put themselves in a great position at half time but instead of dictating the 2nd half they left themselves chasing the game 10 minutes into the half and with Tyrone playing with the strong wind which meant it extremely difficult for Galway to kick scores especially with the way Tyrone had set up. Unlike in the bad years it wasn't a complete meltdown by the team, its 3 bad mistakes involving 2 individuals but its 90% Sean Andy's fault. Kerin has to cut out the daft black cards, come at at time when Galway were well in the match and affected Galways ability to regroup. Duggan a loss at midfield, D'Arcy will stay 5th choice midfielder after that performance; I've criticised Duggan during the league but it was clear to see he was missed the 2nd half. Injuries and the missing Corofin contingent came back to haunt us yesterday, not enough on the bench to be able to change it. Lost far too many of our own kickouts too in the 2nd half. I know I'm always on his case but Gary O'Donnell offered very little going forward yesterday. A couple of weeks ago I thought Bradshaw was still a cert to start at centre half back come the championship but he's really given John Daly a lot of game time in that role so I'm not so sure any more.

Overall its been a really good league despite the disappointment of yesterday, I genuinely would have been happy with staying up and Galway have done a lot better than all the posters on here expected and found a couple of players. John Daly looks at home at this level and O'Laoi despite being a little light will be another option in the coming years and also good to see Danny Cummins back in great shape too.

It was a stonewall pen. Kerin barged into the back of McShane without playing the ball just as he was getting away

Thought it was fairly minimal contact myself to be honest. Maybe the ref could see something from his angle that was not visible on the television replays though.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 25, 2019, 02:41:01 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 25, 2019, 09:50:23 AM
Watched the full match last night and watched the highlights too, how can O'Se & McStay not mention that all 3 goals came off Sean Andy mistakes although it was never a pen but still doesn't gloss over the fact Sean Andy lost McShane. He's going to get targeted this summer but I'm sure Kevin Walsh will work on it in training extensively. I know he had more cover in the 1st half but you can put that down to the wind as Tyrone couldn't get the ball in quick enough and allowed Galway to get a man back.

Galway had put themselves in a great position at half time but instead of dictating the 2nd half they left themselves chasing the game 10 minutes into the half and with Tyrone playing with the strong wind which meant it extremely difficult for Galway to kick scores especially with the way Tyrone had set up. Unlike in the bad years it wasn't a complete meltdown by the team, its 3 bad mistakes involving 2 individuals but its 90% Sean Andy's fault. Kerin has to cut out the daft black cards, come at at time when Galway were well in the match and affected Galways ability to regroup. Duggan a loss at midfield, D'Arcy will stay 5th choice midfielder after that performance; I've criticised Duggan during the league but it was clear to see he was missed the 2nd half. Injuries and the missing Corofin contingent came back to haunt us yesterday, not enough on the bench to be able to change it. Lost far too many of our own kickouts too in the 2nd half. I know I'm always on his case but Gary O'Donnell offered very little going forward yesterday. A couple of weeks ago I thought Bradshaw was still a cert to start at centre half back come the championship but he's really given John Daly a lot of game time in that role so I'm not so sure any more.

Overall its been a really good league despite the disappointment of yesterday, I genuinely would have been happy with staying up and Galway have done a lot better than all the posters on here expected and found a couple of players. John Daly looks at home at this level and O'Laoi despite being a little light will be another option in the coming years and also good to see Danny Cummins back in great shape too.
Paul Conroy hasn't been talked of too much but he is a monumental loss to that team. A massive leader.
Hope he can get back to fitness over the next few weeks.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
If you lived in mid Mayo, say Castlebar, what time would you make it home traveling by road?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: bigpackiechestout on March 25, 2019, 03:30:38 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 25, 2019, 02:41:01 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 25, 2019, 09:50:23 AM
Watched the full match last night and watched the highlights too, how can O'Se & McStay not mention that all 3 goals came off Sean Andy mistakes although it was never a pen but still doesn't gloss over the fact Sean Andy lost McShane. He's going to get targeted this summer but I'm sure Kevin Walsh will work on it in training extensively. I know he had more cover in the 1st half but you can put that down to the wind as Tyrone couldn't get the ball in quick enough and allowed Galway to get a man back.

Galway had put themselves in a great position at half time but instead of dictating the 2nd half they left themselves chasing the game 10 minutes into the half and with Tyrone playing with the strong wind which meant it extremely difficult for Galway to kick scores especially with the way Tyrone had set up. Unlike in the bad years it wasn't a complete meltdown by the team, its 3 bad mistakes involving 2 individuals but its 90% Sean Andy's fault. Kerin has to cut out the daft black cards, come at at time when Galway were well in the match and affected Galways ability to regroup. Duggan a loss at midfield, D'Arcy will stay 5th choice midfielder after that performance; I've criticised Duggan during the league but it was clear to see he was missed the 2nd half. Injuries and the missing Corofin contingent came back to haunt us yesterday, not enough on the bench to be able to change it. Lost far too many of our own kickouts too in the 2nd half. I know I'm always on his case but Gary O'Donnell offered very little going forward yesterday. A couple of weeks ago I thought Bradshaw was still a cert to start at centre half back come the championship but he's really given John Daly a lot of game time in that role so I'm not so sure any more.

Overall its been a really good league despite the disappointment of yesterday, I genuinely would have been happy with staying up and Galway have done a lot better than all the posters on here expected and found a couple of players. John Daly looks at home at this level and O'Laoi despite being a little light will be another option in the coming years and also good to see Danny Cummins back in great shape too.
Paul Conroy hasn't been talked of too much but he is a monumental loss to that team. A massive leader.
Hope he can get back to fitness over the next few weeks.

When is Comer expected back? Seeing him on crutches in Omagh yesterday I wouldn't expect him to play much this side of July
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
If you lived in mid Mayo, say Castlebar, what time would you make it home traveling by road?

Prob 3 hours on the road.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 25, 2019, 03:49:13 PM
Quote from: bigpackiechestout on March 25, 2019, 03:30:38 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 25, 2019, 02:41:01 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 25, 2019, 09:50:23 AM
Watched the full match last night and watched the highlights too, how can O'Se & McStay not mention that all 3 goals came off Sean Andy mistakes although it was never a pen but still doesn't gloss over the fact Sean Andy lost McShane. He's going to get targeted this summer but I'm sure Kevin Walsh will work on it in training extensively. I know he had more cover in the 1st half but you can put that down to the wind as Tyrone couldn't get the ball in quick enough and allowed Galway to get a man back.

Galway had put themselves in a great position at half time but instead of dictating the 2nd half they left themselves chasing the game 10 minutes into the half and with Tyrone playing with the strong wind which meant it extremely difficult for Galway to kick scores especially with the way Tyrone had set up. Unlike in the bad years it wasn't a complete meltdown by the team, its 3 bad mistakes involving 2 individuals but its 90% Sean Andy's fault. Kerin has to cut out the daft black cards, come at at time when Galway were well in the match and affected Galways ability to regroup. Duggan a loss at midfield, D'Arcy will stay 5th choice midfielder after that performance; I've criticised Duggan during the league but it was clear to see he was missed the 2nd half. Injuries and the missing Corofin contingent came back to haunt us yesterday, not enough on the bench to be able to change it. Lost far too many of our own kickouts too in the 2nd half. I know I'm always on his case but Gary O'Donnell offered very little going forward yesterday. A couple of weeks ago I thought Bradshaw was still a cert to start at centre half back come the championship but he's really given John Daly a lot of game time in that role so I'm not so sure any more.

Overall its been a really good league despite the disappointment of yesterday, I genuinely would have been happy with staying up and Galway have done a lot better than all the posters on here expected and found a couple of players. John Daly looks at home at this level and O'Laoi despite being a little light will be another option in the coming years and also good to see Danny Cummins back in great shape too.
Paul Conroy hasn't been talked of too much but he is a monumental loss to that team. A massive leader.
Hope he can get back to fitness over the next few weeks.

When is Comer expected back? Seeing him on crutches in Omagh yesterday I wouldn't expect him to play much this side of July

He only had surgery a couple weeks ago. I presume they are hoping to have him back for a possible Connacht final in mid June but he'll have no football in his legs whatsoever even if he's fit in time.

Slightly worried it could end up being a bit of a lost year for him alright.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 25, 2019, 04:09:43 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 25, 2019, 03:49:13 PM
Quote from: bigpackiechestout on March 25, 2019, 03:30:38 PM
Quote from: galwayman on March 25, 2019, 02:41:01 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 25, 2019, 09:50:23 AM
Watched the full match last night and watched the highlights too, how can O'Se & McStay not mention that all 3 goals came off Sean Andy mistakes although it was never a pen but still doesn't gloss over the fact Sean Andy lost McShane. He's going to get targeted this summer but I'm sure Kevin Walsh will work on it in training extensively. I know he had more cover in the 1st half but you can put that down to the wind as Tyrone couldn't get the ball in quick enough and allowed Galway to get a man back.

Galway had put themselves in a great position at half time but instead of dictating the 2nd half they left themselves chasing the game 10 minutes into the half and with Tyrone playing with the strong wind which meant it extremely difficult for Galway to kick scores especially with the way Tyrone had set up. Unlike in the bad years it wasn't a complete meltdown by the team, its 3 bad mistakes involving 2 individuals but its 90% Sean Andy's fault. Kerin has to cut out the daft black cards, come at at time when Galway were well in the match and affected Galways ability to regroup. Duggan a loss at midfield, D'Arcy will stay 5th choice midfielder after that performance; I've criticised Duggan during the league but it was clear to see he was missed the 2nd half. Injuries and the missing Corofin contingent came back to haunt us yesterday, not enough on the bench to be able to change it. Lost far too many of our own kickouts too in the 2nd half. I know I'm always on his case but Gary O'Donnell offered very little going forward yesterday. A couple of weeks ago I thought Bradshaw was still a cert to start at centre half back come the championship but he's really given John Daly a lot of game time in that role so I'm not so sure any more.

Overall its been a really good league despite the disappointment of yesterday, I genuinely would have been happy with staying up and Galway have done a lot better than all the posters on here expected and found a couple of players. John Daly looks at home at this level and O'Laoi despite being a little light will be another option in the coming years and also good to see Danny Cummins back in great shape too.
Paul Conroy hasn't been talked of too much but he is a monumental loss to that team. A massive leader.
Hope he can get back to fitness over the next few weeks.

When is Comer expected back? Seeing him on crutches in Omagh yesterday I wouldn't expect him to play much this side of July

He only had surgery a couple weeks ago. I presume they are hoping to have him back for a possible Connacht final in mid June but he'll have no football in his legs whatsoever even if he's fit in time.

Slightly worried it could end up being a bit of a lost year for him alright.

Not expecting much from Comer in Connacht, hopefully we make the super 8's and he'll be fit by then.

Conroy is a big loss, whether he'll be starting I don't know but he's going to be a great option for a 20 minute cameo. D'Arcy showed yesterday he's not up to this level just yet.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
If you lived in mid Mayo, say Castlebar, what time would you make it home traveling by road?

Prob 3 hours on the road.

Game over at about 6pm, back to the car at 6:30pm, hour for some grub on the way home. Looking at being at home some time after 10pm.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on March 25, 2019, 04:41:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
If you lived in mid Mayo, say Castlebar, what time would you make it home traveling by road?

Prob 3 hours on the road.

Game over at about 6pm, back to the car at 6:30pm, hour for some grub on the way home. Looking at being at home some time after 10pm.

And if on in Limerick?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on March 25, 2019, 04:42:20 PM
Any season ticket holders from other counties not using their freebie for Sunday's final throw them this way .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on March 25, 2019, 05:14:31 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on March 25, 2019, 04:41:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
If you lived in mid Mayo, say Castlebar, what time would you make it home traveling by road?

Prob 3 hours on the road.

Game over at about 6pm, back to the car at 6:30pm, hour for some grub on the way home. Looking at being at home some time after 10pm.

And if on in Limerick?

Do they not have a sense of humor in the financial game your involved in?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: bogball88 on March 25, 2019, 06:51:19 PM
Has Bernard brogan got much game time during the league?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 07:13:29 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on March 25, 2019, 04:41:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
If you lived in mid Mayo, say Castlebar, what time would you make it home traveling by road?

Prob 3 hours on the road.

Game over at about 6pm, back to the car at 6:30pm, hour for some grub on the way home. Looking at being at home some time after 10pm.

And if on in Limerick?

Probably 45 minutes less of travel, Less likely to have a pit-stop of an hour for food, Gaelic ground are on the good side of town for travelling to Mayo. I know you know little or nothing about having to attend a fixture 2 to 3 hours away from where you live on a Sunday evening. So you have no concept of what is involved.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Gael85 on March 25, 2019, 08:23:20 PM
Quote from: bogball88 on March 25, 2019, 06:51:19 PM
Has Bernard brogan got much game time during the league?

5 minutes yesterday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 08:37:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
If you lived in mid Mayo, say Castlebar, what time would you make it home traveling by road?

Prob 3 hours on the road.

Game over at about 6pm, back to the car at 6:30pm, hour for some grub on the way home. Looking at being at home some time after 10pm.
That's a journey at the end of a long day and extra if you have children with you, get them to bed, up the next morning.
I suppose that's why they say it's tough at the top.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 09:17:31 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 08:37:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
If you lived in mid Mayo, say Castlebar, what time would you make it home traveling by road?

Prob 3 hours on the road.

Game over at about 6pm, back to the car at 6:30pm, hour for some grub on the way home. Looking at being at home some time after 10pm.
That's a journey at the end of a long day and extra if you have children with you, get them to bed, up the next morning.
I suppose that's why they say it's tough at the top.

Is it tough at the top for Dublin? It's never a journey for the Dubs! Why?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 09:29:08 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 09:17:31 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 08:37:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
If you lived in mid Mayo, say Castlebar, what time would you make it home traveling by road?

Prob 3 hours on the road.

Game over at about 6pm, back to the car at 6:30pm, hour for some grub on the way home. Looking at being at home some time after 10pm.
That's a journey at the end of a long day and extra if you have children with you, get them to bed, up the next morning.
I suppose that's why they say it's tough at the top.

Is it tough at the top for Dublin? It's never a journey for the Dubs! Why?
Mea culpa, I could have sworn Mayo were playing Kerry in the final.
Why is there talk about Dublin in the final??
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: omagh_gael on March 25, 2019, 10:35:53 PM
Quote from: Hound on March 25, 2019, 10:20:05 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on March 24, 2019, 07:37:40 PM
I mean Harte could have scored from 50 yards out into an empty goal

Sounds interesting!

Can anyone describe the passage of play that led to this, and what kind of attempt did Harte make?

I tweeted a link to it. Commentator on TG4 loses his shit big time!!

Check out @darragh1984's Tweet: https://twitter.com/darragh1984/status/1109954707924176898?s=09
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 26, 2019, 07:33:51 AM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 09:29:08 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 09:17:31 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 08:37:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
If you lived in mid Mayo, say Castlebar, what time would you make it home traveling by road?

Prob 3 hours on the road.

Game over at about 6pm, back to the car at 6:30pm, hour for some grub on the way home. Looking at being at home some time after 10pm.
That's a journey at the end of a long day and extra if you have children with you, get them to bed, up the next morning.
I suppose that's why they say it's tough at the top.

Is it tough at the top for Dublin? It's never a journey for the Dubs! Why?
Mea culpa, I could have sworn Mayo were playing Kerry in the final.
Why is there talk about Dublin in the final??

Don't worry. Bunker won't be there anyway. I must say the journeys are part of the day for me.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on March 26, 2019, 08:02:42 AM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 25, 2019, 05:14:31 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on March 25, 2019, 04:41:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
If you lived in mid Mayo, say Castlebar, what time would you make it home traveling by road?

Prob 3 hours on the road.

Game over at about 6pm, back to the car at 6:30pm, hour for some grub on the way home. Looking at being at home some time after 10pm.

And if on in Limerick?

Do they not have a sense of humor in the financial game your involved in?

It was a genunine question out of interest.

Take it ham and cheesy.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on March 26, 2019, 08:12:18 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 07:13:29 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on March 25, 2019, 04:41:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
If you lived in mid Mayo, say Castlebar, what time would you make it home traveling by road?

Prob 3 hours on the road.

Game over at about 6pm, back to the car at 6:30pm, hour for some grub on the way home. Looking at being at home some time after 10pm.

And if on in Limerick?

Probably 45 minutes less of travel, Less likely to have a pit-stop of an hour for food, Gaelic ground are on the good side of town for travelling to Mayo. I know you know little or nothing about having to attend a fixture 2 to 3 hours away from where you live on a Sunday evening. So you have no concept of what is involved.

Again, a genuine question it was, if your asking me should i feel sorry for you because of it, no chance. I have no time for Mayo or Mayo fans, especially on here.

I have travelled the length and breath of the country following both the footballers and hurlers and my club in plenty of Leinster and all irelands matches. Fair enough for the Dublin football its only the league but i have travelled for the games, not as much as i do now with the kids etc.

The league final should be played in the national stadium, if its too arduous or expensive for you, stay at home this time but dont complain about it, its a league final, a chance of silverware.



Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Tubberman on March 26, 2019, 09:25:22 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on March 26, 2019, 08:12:18 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 07:13:29 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on March 25, 2019, 04:41:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
If you lived in mid Mayo, say Castlebar, what time would you make it home traveling by road?

Prob 3 hours on the road.

Game over at about 6pm, back to the car at 6:30pm, hour for some grub on the way home. Looking at being at home some time after 10pm.

And if on in Limerick?

Probably 45 minutes less of travel, Less likely to have a pit-stop of an hour for food, Gaelic ground are on the good side of town for travelling to Mayo. I know you know little or nothing about having to attend a fixture 2 to 3 hours away from where you live on a Sunday evening. So you have no concept of what is involved.

Again, a genuine question it was, if your asking me should i feel sorry for you because of it, no chance. I have no time for Mayo or Mayo fans, especially on here.

I have travelled the length and breath of the country following both the footballers and hurlers and my club in plenty of Leinster and all irelands matches. Fair enough for the Dublin football its only the league but i have travelled for the games, not as much as i do now with the kids etc.

The league final should be played in the national stadium, if its too arduous or expensive for you, stay at home this time but dont complain about it, its a league final, a chance of silverware.

How very mature and open-minded of you  :o
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 26, 2019, 09:51:52 AM
It's going to be a one sided debate from now on in regards to the final. Is there no one here who can speak for Kerry?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on March 26, 2019, 09:54:43 AM
Quote from: Main Street on March 26, 2019, 09:51:52 AM
It's going to be a one sided debate from now on in regards to the final. Is there no one here who can speak for Kerry?
Dhera
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on March 26, 2019, 11:45:09 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on March 26, 2019, 08:12:18 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 07:13:29 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on March 25, 2019, 04:41:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
If you lived in mid Mayo, say Castlebar, what time would you make it home traveling by road?

Prob 3 hours on the road.

Game over at about 6pm, back to the car at 6:30pm, hour for some grub on the way home. Looking at being at home some time after 10pm.

And if on in Limerick?

Probably 45 minutes less of travel, Less likely to have a pit-stop of an hour for food, Gaelic ground are on the good side of town for travelling to Mayo. I know you know little or nothing about having to attend a fixture 2 to 3 hours away from where you live on a Sunday evening. So you have no concept of what is involved.

Again, a genuine question it was, if your asking me should i feel sorry for you because of it, no chance. I have no time for Mayo or Mayo fans, especially on here.

I have travelled the length and breath of the country following both the footballers and hurlers and my club in plenty of Leinster and all irelands matches. Fair enough for the Dublin football its only the league but i have travelled for the games, not as much as i do now with the kids etc.

The league final should be played in the national stadium, if its too arduous or expensive for you, stay at home this time but dont complain about it, its a league final, a chance of silverware.

I think I can hear Gráinne Uaile crying from the seas at that statement!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 26, 2019, 12:08:39 PM
I presume it's Kerry to win pulling up?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on March 26, 2019, 12:12:50 PM
Ni uasal agus iseal ach thuas seal agus thios seal

I wonder how long Ros and Cavan will be orbiting up/down between  D1 one year and D2 the next. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on March 26, 2019, 12:26:19 PM
Till the current squads retire then it will be Division 3 and start a youth policy again......
If there will be any young people left :-\
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on March 26, 2019, 12:31:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 26, 2019, 12:08:39 PM
I presume it's Kerry to win pulling up?
I hope not but yeah probably Kerry by 5 or 6.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on March 26, 2019, 12:32:31 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 26, 2019, 12:31:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 26, 2019, 12:08:39 PM
I presume it's Kerry to win pulling up?
I hope not but yeah probably Kerry by 5 or 6.
Mayo could do it
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on March 26, 2019, 12:37:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 26, 2019, 12:32:31 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 26, 2019, 12:31:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 26, 2019, 12:08:39 PM
I presume it's Kerry to win pulling up?
I hope not but yeah probably Kerry by 5 or 6.
Mayo could do it

We could Seaf but the bookies have the odds in favour of them not doing it and those lads are right more often then they are wrong!! Should be a good game of football anyway and I, like thousands of other Mayo folk, will travel in hope as always!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on March 26, 2019, 01:33:23 PM
Fully expect Mayo to win. In my opinion Kerry are being blown up by the media to create the old Kerry v Dublin rivalry to boost viewership.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: highorlow on March 26, 2019, 02:42:39 PM
QuoteFully expect Mayo to win. In my opinion Kerry are being blown up by the media to create the old Kerry v Dublin rivalry to boost viewership.

That's always the case, the same last year after the Munster final.

We always get blown down.

Mayo at our best v Kerry at their bets should make for a cracker. I'd worry though about the 6 day turnaround for our lads but I suppose we have the advantage as we played at home at the weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 26, 2019, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 26, 2019, 12:32:31 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 26, 2019, 12:31:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 26, 2019, 12:08:39 PM
I presume it's Kerry to win pulling up?
I hope not but yeah probably Kerry by 5 or 6.
Mayo could do it

Of course they could, after all they beat Kerry in Tralee last week and held them to a mere 0-11 while doing so. If its another wet and windy day for this match it should suit a more physical Mayo outfit.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on March 26, 2019, 03:12:43 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 26, 2019, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 26, 2019, 12:32:31 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 26, 2019, 12:31:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 26, 2019, 12:08:39 PM
I presume it's Kerry to win pulling up?
I hope not but yeah probably Kerry by 5 or 6.
Mayo could do it

Of course they could, after all they beat Kerry in Tralee last week and held them to a mere 0-11 while doing so. If its another wet and windy day for this match it should suit a more physical Mayo outfit.

I think that's a bit unfair on Mayo thinking that the wet and windy conditions suited Mayo more and Kerry would have beaten us on a dry sod. We cleaned Kerry out in midfield and ran through their fullback line that night and if we can manage the same next Sunday on a dry calm pitch we will win again but I just don't see Kerry being dominated as much in the middle third the next day.
Kerry never back down from the physical battles in games against us just watch the 2014 games or the league game from 2018 to see how well they can mix it with us!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on March 26, 2019, 03:32:54 PM
Most fascinating aspect will be who JH picks not only starters but match day panel
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 26, 2019, 03:37:25 PM
I can't see past Kerry myself unfortunately. They will go all guns blazing to beat us after Mayo beating them below in Tralee.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on March 26, 2019, 03:56:31 PM
Really looking forward to this one, has the makings of a cracker.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on March 26, 2019, 04:14:43 PM
Clifford back is a massive boost for kerry. If they're as poor again at MF though, it won't be much use. If Keane is any good, he'll surely have a plan for kickouts
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 26, 2019, 04:17:31 PM
Any season ticket holder from another county want to give me their ticket for Sunday? Apparently anyone is entitled to a ticket
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 26, 2019, 04:20:38 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 26, 2019, 03:12:43 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 26, 2019, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 26, 2019, 12:32:31 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 26, 2019, 12:31:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 26, 2019, 12:08:39 PM
I presume it's Kerry to win pulling up?
I hope not but yeah probably Kerry by 5 or 6.
Mayo could do it

Of course they could, after all they beat Kerry in Tralee last week and held them to a mere 0-11 while doing so. If its another wet and windy day for this match it should suit a more physical Mayo outfit.

I think that's a bit unfair on Mayo thinking that the wet and windy conditions suited Mayo more and Kerry would have beaten us on a dry sod. We cleaned Kerry out in midfield and ran through their fullback line that night and if we can manage the same next Sunday on a dry calm pitch we will win again but I just don't see Kerry being dominated as much in the middle third the next day.
Kerry never back down from the physical battles in games against us just watch the 2014 games or the league game from 2018 to see how well they can mix it with us!

It was Mayo's physical presence in the middle eight that allowed them to dictate the game in Tralee and poor weather doesn't suit lighter teams. In 2014 Kerry had a more physical and experienced team to mix it and 2018 game a midfield pairing of i think J Gibbons, B Moran was poor that night.

The worse the weather is the lower the score does be in games. Mayo while dominated large portions of that game in Tralee they still created less scoring chances than Kerry. The goal was obviously the key score and it was shocking defending by Kerry if they defend like that in Croke Park Mayo will have a excellent chance of winning.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on March 26, 2019, 04:21:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 26, 2019, 01:33:23 PM
Fully expect Mayo to win. In my opinion Kerry are being blown up by the media to create the old Kerry v Dublin rivalry to boost viewership.
Jeez Louise.
They've just won 5 minor All Irelands, they hold the record for the most senior All Irelands, they beat Dublin in the league, they've topped the league. It would be utterly ridiculous if they weren't getting media attention!

While Mayo have done well to get to the league final, their most memorable display in the league for most neutrals was probably their dismal display against the Dubs. If they go beat Kerry at the weekend, then that will change.

If this was an All Ireland Final, I would imagine the vast majority of neutrals would be cheering Mayo. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mac2 on March 26, 2019, 04:48:05 PM
I'd worry if we go with the same FB line again.
Can't understand how Stephen Coen gets so many starts with Mayo, just don't see what he offers.
Barrett has been poor too, he's constantly going in with the arm over in the tackle giving away soft frees.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rosnarun on March 26, 2019, 07:58:44 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on March 26, 2019, 04:48:05 PM
I'd worry if we go with the same FB line again.
Can't understand how Stephen Coen gets so many starts with Mayo, just don't see what he offers.
Barrett has been poor too, he's constantly going in with the arm over in the tackle giving away soft frees.
I have to laugh at the constant negativity of some mayo fans .
mayo are  in a league final for feck sake playing really good football. :Loads of new player have been bled, some older players have come back into the reckoning .
Aidan O se has been on top of his game and that means there few better players in the country. there have been very few injuries  plus we don't have to play dublin in the final
thing could hardly be better ,
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mac2 on March 26, 2019, 08:03:50 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on March 26, 2019, 07:58:44 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on March 26, 2019, 04:48:05 PM
I'd worry if we go with the same FB line again.
Can't understand how Stephen Coen gets so many starts with Mayo, just don't see what he offers.
Barrett has been poor too, he's constantly going in with the arm over in the tackle giving away soft frees.
I have to laugh at the constant negativity of some mayo fans .
mayo are  in a league final for feck sake playing really good football. :Loads of new player have been bled, some older players have come back into the reckoning .
Aidan O se has been on top of his game and that means there few better players in the country. there have been very few injuries  plus we don't have to play dublin in the final
thing could hardly be better ,
You're easily amused then and obviously just a cheerleader.
Hope you've your poms poms ready for Sunday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: armaghniac on March 26, 2019, 10:52:57 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on March 26, 2019, 08:03:50 PM
You're easily amused then and obviously just a cheerleader.
Hope you've your poms poms ready for Sunday.

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Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 27, 2019, 09:47:17 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 26, 2019, 03:37:25 PM
I can't see past Kerry myself unfortunately. They will go all guns blazing to beat us after Mayo beating them below in Tralee.

In fairness have you ever predicted Mayo to win a game?

For once I'd agree with Rosnarun, we've found ourselves in a great position, Horan stuck to his guns, lots of kids in for every match, we seem to have players that in time will replace the older lads and we have lads you'd be happy to see coming off the bench. It's only 7 months since Rochford left it until 65 minutes to bring on a fresh forward cause he didn't trust his bench.

I do think it'll be a much tougher test, I'd question how motivated Kerry were in Tralee but it'll be a good gauge and it's a great opportunity to win a national title. Horan's whole management style is built around positivity and in fairness it's back in Mayo
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Jim Bob on March 27, 2019, 09:13:58 PM
When did Mayo last win the national league ? (If ever)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 27, 2019, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on March 27, 2019, 09:13:58 PM
When did Mayo last win the national league ? (If ever)

2001 - Ironically it sort of marked the end of the decent 96-99 team!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TabClear on March 27, 2019, 09:21:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 26, 2019, 10:52:57 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on March 26, 2019, 08:03:50 PM
You're easily amused then and obviously just a cheerleader.
Hope you've your poms poms ready for Sunday.

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Hope Mayo have more up front....
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Ball Hopper on March 27, 2019, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: TabClear on March 27, 2019, 09:21:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 26, 2019, 10:52:57 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on March 26, 2019, 08:03:50 PM
You're easily amused then and obviously just a cheerleader.
Hope you've your poms poms ready for Sunday.

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Hope Mayo have more up front....

Was it Mayo and this one that coined the phrase...All support and no Cups...
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on March 28, 2019, 12:30:24 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on March 27, 2019, 09:13:58 PM
When did Mayo last win the national league ? (If ever)
2001 Mayo's 11th league title!
Mayo won league titles  in 1934, 1935, 1936, 1937, 1938,  1939, 1941, 1949, 1954,  1970 & 2001!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on March 28, 2019, 11:03:14 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on March 27, 2019, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: TabClear on March 27, 2019, 09:21:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 26, 2019, 10:52:57 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on March 26, 2019, 08:03:50 PM
You're easily amused then and obviously just a cheerleader.
Hope you've your poms poms ready for Sunday.

(https://www.maykool.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/g/r/green-football-baby-cheerleader-sexy-sports-costume-043074.jpg)

Hope Mayo have more up front....

Was it Mayo and this one that coined the phrase...All support and no Cups...

We have plenty of Nestor cups! ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on March 28, 2019, 11:54:52 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 28, 2019, 12:30:24 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on March 27, 2019, 09:13:58 PM
When did Mayo last win the national league ? (If ever)
2001 Mayo's 11th league title!
Mayo won league titles  in 1934, 1935, 1936, 1937, 1938,  1939, 1941, 1949, 1954,  1970 & 2001!!

So it has been 18 yrs. since the last 'foot and mouth' crisis!?

Time flies.
I'm struggling with this one though. Have we lost so many AI finals that this league final is not going to be a big deal if we lose?
Obviously it won't mean damn all if we win. However in the normal scheme of things you don't want to lose this game?

Yet the way the season stacks up now, there is a big gap between the league and the first round of championship. For counties that make super8s its going to be almost 5 months.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 29, 2019, 12:54:50 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 28, 2019, 11:54:52 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 28, 2019, 12:30:24 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on March 27, 2019, 09:13:58 PM
When did Mayo last win the national league ? (If ever)
2001 Mayo's 11th league title!
Mayo won league titles  in 1934, 1935, 1936, 1937, 1938,  1939, 1941, 1949, 1954,  1970 & 2001!!

So it has been 18 yrs. since the last 'foot and mouth' crisis!?

Time flies.
I'm struggling with this one though. Have we lost so many AI finals that this league final is not going to be a big deal if we lose?
Obviously it won't mean damn all if we win. However in the normal scheme of things you don't want to lose this game?

Yet the way the season stacks up now, there is a big gap between the league and the first round of championship. For counties that make super8s its going to be almost 5 months.

Lets be fair its not All Ireland but the likes of Higgins,Moran,Barrett,Boyle finally winning a national senior title in Croke park will hardly mean damn all. Losing on the other hand could plant more seeds of doubt for the summer ahead. Either way i see this league final as more important to Mayo than Kerry.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on March 29, 2019, 01:19:42 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 29, 2019, 12:54:50 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 28, 2019, 11:54:52 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 28, 2019, 12:30:24 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on March 27, 2019, 09:13:58 PM
When did Mayo last win the national league ? (If ever)
2001 Mayo's 11th league title!
Mayo won league titles  in 1934, 1935, 1936, 1937, 1938,  1939, 1941, 1949, 1954,  1970 & 2001!!

So it has been 18 yrs. since the last 'foot and mouth' crisis!?

Time flies.
I'm struggling with this one though. Have we lost so many AI finals that this league final is not going to be a big deal if we lose?
Obviously it won't mean damn all if we win. However in the normal scheme of things you don't want to lose this game?

Yet the way the season stacks up now, there is a big gap between the league and the first round of championship. For counties that make super8s its going to be almost 5 months.

Lets be fair its not All Ireland but the likes of Higgins,Moran,Barrett,Boyle finally winning a national senior title in Croke park will hardly mean damn all. Losing on the other hand could plant more seeds of doubt for the summer ahead. Either way i see this league final as more important to Mayo than Kerry.

I would agree with that to an extent. I think Horan has a bit of a dilemma here. Does he fudge it and start another 'FBD' selection or go with the national guard? No doubt the lads that have come so close will want a cut at this but the league so far has been about experiment. I think we have to go for it myself and what happens, happens.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 29, 2019, 07:06:44 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on March 26, 2019, 08:12:18 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 07:13:29 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on March 25, 2019, 04:41:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 25, 2019, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 25, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 25, 2019, 02:39:35 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on March 25, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
So it's a Mayo v Kerry final.
I presume the game will be in Croker and probably next Sunday. Am I correct?

Off to Croker ffs  >:(. What's on in the Gaelic Grounds?

There are no premium seats or Corporate boxes there. There's is a chance to charge the common follower €30 into Croker. The GAA don't care about the common fan. This is confirmed by the game being at 4pm on a Sunday.
If you lived in mid Mayo, say Castlebar, what time would you make it home traveling by road?

Prob 3 hours on the road.

Game over at about 6pm, back to the car at 6:30pm, hour for some grub on the way home. Looking at being at home some time after 10pm.

And if on in Limerick?

Probably 45 minutes less of travel, Less likely to have a pit-stop of an hour for food, Gaelic ground are on the good side of town for travelling to Mayo. I know you know little or nothing about having to attend a fixture 2 to 3 hours away from where you live on a Sunday evening. So you have no concept of what is involved.

Again, a genuine question it was, if your asking me should i feel sorry for you because of it, no chance. I have no time for Mayo or Mayo fans, especially on here.

I have travelled the length and breath of the country following both the footballers and hurlers and my club in plenty of Leinster and all irelands matches. Fair enough for the Dublin football its only the league but i have travelled for the games, not as much as i do now with the kids etc.

The league final should be played in the national stadium, if its too arduous or expensive for you, stay at home this time but dont complain about it, its a league final, a chance of silverware.

Don't worry. I'm not losing sleep over it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on March 29, 2019, 09:50:30 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 29, 2019, 12:54:50 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 28, 2019, 11:54:52 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 28, 2019, 12:30:24 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on March 27, 2019, 09:13:58 PM
When did Mayo last win the national league ? (If ever)
2001 Mayo's 11th league title!
Mayo won league titles  in 1934, 1935, 1936, 1937, 1938,  1939, 1941, 1949, 1954,  1970 & 2001!!

So it has been 18 yrs. since the last 'foot and mouth' crisis!?

Time flies.
I'm struggling with this one though. Have we lost so many AI finals that this league final is not going to be a big deal if we lose?
Obviously it won't mean damn all if we win. However in the normal scheme of things you don't want to lose this game?

Yet the way the season stacks up now, there is a big gap between the league and the first round of championship. For counties that make super8s its going to be almost 5 months.

Lets be fair its not All Ireland but the likes of Higgins,Moran,Barrett,Boyle finally winning a national senior title in Croke park will hardly mean damn all. Losing on the other hand could plant more seeds of doubt for the summer ahead. Either way i see this league final as more important to Mayo than Kerry.

Yeah I think that's how most Mayo fans would see it too. It would be a great boost (to the older lads especially) to beat a top team in a national final in Croke park after the mental blows taken from losing those big finals to Dublin and running out of gas last year!
If we are beaten easily enough like the bookies and pundits expect then it will be another final defeat these lads will have to carry into the championship and a confidence blow to the young lads brought in, all of which Mayo of all counties could do without!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: greatpoint on March 29, 2019, 03:31:24 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 28, 2019, 11:03:14 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on March 27, 2019, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: TabClear on March 27, 2019, 09:21:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 26, 2019, 10:52:57 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on March 26, 2019, 08:03:50 PM
You're easily amused then and obviously just a cheerleader.
Hope you've your poms poms ready for Sunday.

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Hope Mayo have more up front....

Was it Mayo and this one that coined the phrase...All support and no Cups...

We have plenty of Nestor cups! ;)

What are they, training bras?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on March 29, 2019, 04:26:14 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on March 29, 2019, 03:31:24 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 28, 2019, 11:03:14 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on March 27, 2019, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: TabClear on March 27, 2019, 09:21:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 26, 2019, 10:52:57 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on March 26, 2019, 08:03:50 PM
You're easily amused then and obviously just a cheerleader.
Hope you've your poms poms ready for Sunday.

(https://www.maykool.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/g/r/green-football-baby-cheerleader-sexy-sports-costume-043074.jpg)

Hope Mayo have more up front....

Was it Mayo and this one that coined the phrase...All support and no Cups...

We have plenty of Nestor cups! ;)

What are they, training bras?

No that's  division 4 cups!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 29, 2019, 08:05:21 PM
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Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 29, 2019, 08:35:39 PM
Mayo team named. A very experienced and strong defence picked. First Senior start for James Carr in the forward line.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Chris Barrett - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
6. Lee Keegan - Westport
7. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
12. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber(C)
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. Darren Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
15. James Carr - Ardagh
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: twohands!!! on March 29, 2019, 09:50:26 PM
I'd be surprised if that Mayo 15 starts and I'd be surprised if the Kerry 15 doesn't.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: blanketattack on March 29, 2019, 10:30:12 PM
Seems a bit unfair on the youngsters that got Mayo to the final to be replaced by the old guard for the final. Can't be good for their morale.
You'd think the youngsters would gain more from a run out in Croke Park than those who have vast experience.
Horan is probably thinking this is the likes of Vaughan, Barrett, Higgins, Keegan, O'Shea and McLoughlin's only likely chance of a national title.

Outside of Dublin and Kerry, I believe Paul Kerrigan is the only current intercounty footballer to have a league medal. Walsh and Cadogan have ones but are hurlers only now.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on March 29, 2019, 10:32:39 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 29, 2019, 10:30:12 PM
Seems a bit unfair on the youngsters that got Mayo to the final to be replaced by the old guard for the final. Can't be good for their morale.
You'd think the youngsters would gain more from a run out in Croke Park than those who have vast experience.
Horan is probably thinking this is the likes of Vaughan, Barrett, Higgins, Keegan, O'Shea and McLoughlin's only likely chance of a national title.

Outside of Dublin and Kerry, I believe Paul Kerrigan is the only current intercounty footballer to have a league medal. Walsh and Cadogan have ones but are hurlers only now.

Plunkett and mcdonagh are injured for a start
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on March 29, 2019, 11:40:07 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 29, 2019, 09:50:26 PM
I'd be surprised if that Mayo 15 starts and I'd be surprised if the Kerry 15 doesn't.

This Mayo selection will probably start.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on March 29, 2019, 11:48:06 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 29, 2019, 10:30:12 PM
Seems a bit unfair on the youngsters that got Mayo to the final to be replaced by the old guard for the final. Can't be good for their morale.
You'd think the youngsters would gain more from a run out in Croke Park than those who have vast experience.

Horan is probably thinking this is the likes of Vaughan, Barrett, Higgins, Keegan, O'Shea and McLoughlin's only likely chance of a national title.

Outside of Dublin and Kerry, I believe Paul Kerrigan is the only current intercounty footballer to have a league medal. Walsh and Cadogan have ones but are hurlers only now.

What's this about?
He's starting a lad that played 5 minutes in the last league game. 2 others that got a couple of runs with mixed reviews.
Who are these youngsters that got us to a league final?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on March 30, 2019, 01:09:04 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 29, 2019, 11:48:06 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 29, 2019, 10:30:12 PM
Seems a bit unfair on the youngsters that got Mayo to the final to be replaced by the old guard for the final. Can't be good for their morale.
You'd think the youngsters would gain more from a run out in Croke Park than those who have vast experience.

Horan is probably thinking this is the likes of Vaughan, Barrett, Higgins, Keegan, O'Shea and McLoughlin's only likely chance of a national title.

Outside of Dublin and Kerry, I believe Paul Kerrigan is the only current intercounty footballer to have a league medal. Walsh and Cadogan have ones but are hurlers only now.

What's this about?
He's starting a lad that played 5 minutes in the last league game. 2 others that got a couple of runs with mixed reviews.
Who are these youngsters that got us to a league final?

Maybe he means Plunkett  and McDonagh but they are both struggling  with injury and didn't  tog against Monaghan either!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on March 30, 2019, 01:41:30 AM
Quote from: Crete Boom on March 30, 2019, 01:09:04 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 29, 2019, 11:48:06 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 29, 2019, 10:30:12 PM
Seems a bit unfair on the youngsters that got Mayo to the final to be replaced by the old guard for the final. Can't be good for their morale.
You'd think the youngsters would gain more from a run out in Croke Park than those who have vast experience.

Horan is probably thinking this is the likes of Vaughan, Barrett, Higgins, Keegan, O'Shea and McLoughlin's only likely chance of a national title.

Outside of Dublin and Kerry, I believe Paul Kerrigan is the only current intercounty footballer to have a league medal. Walsh and Cadogan have ones but are hurlers only now.

What's this about?
He's starting a lad that played 5 minutes in the last league game. 2 others that got a couple of runs with mixed reviews.
Who are these youngsters that got us to a league final?

Maybe he means Plunkett  and McDonagh but they are both struggling  with injury and didn't  tog against Monaghan either!!

McDonagh out with concussion. Clarke as well with concussion (not a youngster obviously). Plunkett injured. Treacy rolled ankle badly v Dublin. Regan did shoulder ligaments live on tv as well and just getting back. I dunno what he is on about tbh??
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 30, 2019, 06:08:10 AM
If you told me at the beginning of the year that Mayo would make a league final with McLoughlin, Coen and Carr starting inside, I'd have laughed you off. But here we are. Considering the injuries, it's not a bad team I suppose.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Randy on March 30, 2019, 08:13:54 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 30, 2019, 06:08:10 AM
If you told me at the beginning of the year that Mayo would make a league final with McLoughlin, Coen and Carr starting inside, I'd have laughed you off. But here we are. Considering the injuries, it's not a bad team I suppose.

McLoughlin in full forward line is like finding a new player. He looks comfy there. Obviously delighted for James aswell. Hope it goes well for him.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on March 30, 2019, 10:34:38 AM
Has anybody seen the subs bench? I can't find it anywhere. An awful lot is going to depend on the options available to Horan during the course of the game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: greatpoint on March 30, 2019, 01:37:51 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on March 29, 2019, 10:30:12 PM
Seems a bit unfair on the youngsters that got Mayo to the final to be replaced by the old guard for the final. Can't be good for their morale.
You'd think the youngsters would gain more from a run out in Croke Park than those who have vast experience.
Horan is probably thinking this is the likes of Vaughan, Barrett, Higgins, Keegan, O'Shea and McLoughlin's only likely chance of a national title.

Outside of Dublin and Kerry, I believe Paul Kerrigan is the only current intercounty footballer to have a league medal. Walsh and Cadogan have ones but are hurlers only now.

Paul Durcan and Neil McGee both have league medals.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mayo.mick on March 30, 2019, 05:02:41 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 30, 2019, 10:34:38 AM
Has anybody seen the subs bench? I can't find it anywhere. An awful lot is going to depend on the options available to Horan during the course of the game.

We won't know the subs for sure till we get our mitts on a programe.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on March 30, 2019, 06:36:05 PM
Quote from: mayo.mick on March 30, 2019, 05:02:41 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 30, 2019, 10:34:38 AM
Has anybody seen the subs bench? I can't find it anywhere. An awful lot is going to depend on the options available to Horan during the course of the game.

We won't know the subs for sure till we get our mitts on a programe.

A lot of panel members lined out for their clubs today so you can make a good estimate about who's on the bench.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on March 30, 2019, 08:42:55 PM
Reape ,Loftus , Eoin o donoghue,Jason gibbons , caolan crowe all lined out for their clubs .

So Conor o Shea will have a place on the bench tomorrow again no doubt.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Randy on March 30, 2019, 10:53:23 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 30, 2019, 08:42:55 PM
Reape ,Loftus , Eoin o donoghue,Jason gibbons , caolan crowe all lined out for their clubs .

So Conor o Shea will have a place on the bench tomorrow again no doubt.

Lol. You're right. He's on the bench. Something strange going on there. Feck sake, he's about as much use as tits on a bull but he's been on every mayo panel over the last 4-5 yrs. I never rated loftus but surely he's better than conor o'se??
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 30, 2019, 11:06:19 PM
The Mayo sub bench tomorrow according to the program

David Clarke
Stephen Coen
Michael Plunkett
James McCormack
Colm Boyle
Ciaran Treacy
Conor O'Shea
David Drake
Evan Regan
Andy Moran
Conor Diskin
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on March 31, 2019, 12:09:48 AM
Quote from: Randy on March 30, 2019, 10:53:23 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 30, 2019, 08:42:55 PM
Reape ,Loftus , Eoin o donoghue,Jason gibbons , caolan crowe all lined out for their clubs .

So Conor o Shea will have a place on the bench tomorrow again no doubt.

Lol. You're right. He's on the bench. Something strange going on there. Feck sake, he's about as much use as tits on a bull but he's been on every mayo panel over the last 4-5 yrs. I never rated loftus but surely he's better than conor o'se??

What has Eoin O Donoghue done so bad to be calved??
Gibbons just looked unfit when he came on last game and may have a future still.
I honestly cant see Horan - I dunno - have the patience for a couple of the others. Maybe patience is the wrong word.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on March 31, 2019, 12:16:09 AM
Quote from: moysider on March 31, 2019, 12:09:48 AM
Quote from: Randy on March 30, 2019, 10:53:23 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 30, 2019, 08:42:55 PM
Reape ,Loftus , Eoin o donoghue,Jason gibbons , caolan crowe all lined out for their clubs .

So Conor o Shea will have a place on the bench tomorrow again no doubt.

Lol. You're right. He's on the bench. Something strange going on there. Feck sake, he's about as much use as tits on a bull but he's been on every mayo panel over the last 4-5 yrs. I never rated loftus but surely he's better than conor o'se??

What has Eoin O Donoghue done so bad to be calved??
Gibbons just looked unfit when he came on last game and may have a future still.
I honestly cant see Horan - I dunno - have the patience for a couple of the others. Maybe patience is the wrong word.

Yeah, I was sure EOD would nail down a starting spot this year
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on March 31, 2019, 02:11:35 AM
Quote from: Randy on March 30, 2019, 10:53:23 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 30, 2019, 08:42:55 PM
Reape ,Loftus , Eoin o donoghue,Jason gibbons , caolan crowe all lined out for their clubs .

So Conor o Shea will have a place on the bench tomorrow again no doubt.

Lol. You're right. He's on the bench. Something strange going on there. Feck sake, he's about as much use as tits on a bull but he's been on every mayo panel over the last 4-5 yrs. I never rated loftus but surely he's better than conor o'se??

I hope Jimmy Sloyan doesn't find out
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Dire Ear on March 31, 2019, 02:21:42 AM
Well, the answer to the opening post is that it's actually not the Dubs, which I suppose is heartening to the rest of us! For Sam however, it's still the Dubs to loose, Kerry would be my choice 😉
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 31, 2019, 06:39:14 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 30, 2019, 11:06:19 PM
The Mayo sub bench tomorrow according to the program

David Clarke
Stephen Coen
Michael Plunkett
James McCormack
Colm Boyle
Ciaran Treacy
Conor O'Shea
David Drake
Evan Regan
Andy Moran
Conor Diskin

Surprised Clarke being on it. Just given the fact his sister got married less than 24 hours ago, and Schlingermann on and off the bench as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo Mick on March 31, 2019, 12:06:30 PM
So league is now so diminished that the final does not have it's own thread. Leaving that aside this is a big game for us and a must win. We can't lose another national final in CP and pretending that this game does not matter will fool nobody. We also need to put some doubt in Kerry and stall their arrival for another while.

We should win if we bring our intensity and physicality. I expect we will have more possession and we need to make this show on the scoreboard against a defence that is average enough. Biggest fear is that we concede 3 or 4 goals - Kerry forwards are handy.

It's been a good league for us in terms of team building and confidence in Horan. Let's win the bloody thing.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 31, 2019, 03:53:00 PM
Quote from: Mayo Mick on March 31, 2019, 12:06:30 PM
So league is now so diminished that the final does not have it's own thread. Leaving that aside this is a big game for us and a must win. We can't lose another national final in CP and pretending that this game does not matter will fool nobody. We also need to put some doubt in Kerry and stall their arrival for another while.

We should win if we bring our intensity and physicality. I expect we will have more possession and we need to make this show on the scoreboard against a defence that is average enough. Biggest fear is that we concede 3 or 4 goals - Kerry forwards are handy.

It's been a good league for us in terms of team building and confidence in Horan. Let's win the bloody thing.

Yes
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 31, 2019, 04:11:40 PM
10 mins played. Kerry 0-1 Mayo 0-2. Vaughan had a good goal chance saved and Clifford had a goal disallowed that some other refs may have given.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 31, 2019, 04:15:12 PM
Fine goal there for Kerry. Both defences look a bit open.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: twohands!!! on March 31, 2019, 04:15:38 PM
Aidan O'Shea took a line-ball backwards there. Ref missed it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 31, 2019, 04:21:20 PM
20 mins played Kerry 1-3 Mayo 0-3. Good final so far.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 31, 2019, 04:27:56 PM
Poor defending by Mayo on that 2nd Kerry goal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: joemamas on March 31, 2019, 04:29:08 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 31, 2019, 04:27:56 PM
Poor defending by Mayo on that 2nd Kerry goal.

Looks like he took 8 steps
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Armagh18 on March 31, 2019, 04:30:52 PM
Mayo aren't ruthless enough
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: twohands!!! on March 31, 2019, 04:31:28 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 31, 2019, 04:27:56 PM
Poor defending by Mayo on that 2nd Kerry goal.
The catch and quick lay-off by Moynihan made it.

Mayo struggling for scores.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: twohands!!! on March 31, 2019, 04:32:39 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 31, 2019, 04:30:52 PM
Mayo aren't ruthless enough

3 fisted points (1 with the keeper beaten) says a bit.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rodney trotter on March 31, 2019, 04:34:26 PM
Doherty kicked a handy free into the keepers hands aswell.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on March 31, 2019, 04:36:31 PM
Did Martin Carney just describe a Kerry tackle as "tinkerish"?

Gotta love MidWest
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: clarshack on March 31, 2019, 04:39:30 PM
Kerry look to be ultra defensive.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 31, 2019, 04:39:49 PM
Half time. Kerry 2-3 Mayo 0-5. Without stating the obvious the goals the difference so far. Mayo must see Graham O'Sullivan as a weakness as most of their attacks seem to be coming at him.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on March 31, 2019, 04:44:53 PM
Kerry are going nowhere , f**king pretenders
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: twohands!!! on March 31, 2019, 04:47:30 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on March 31, 2019, 04:44:53 PM
Kerry are going nowhere , f**king pretenders

By my count they have missed 9 scoring chances between wides, dropped short, hitting the post.
That doesn't include the goal chalked off either.
If their forwards weren't having a below average day, they'd be out of sight.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: joemamas on March 31, 2019, 04:50:00 PM
I think Mayo are playing well. I like how they are moving the ball.
They have had three goal chances did not convert any of them.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 31, 2019, 05:00:05 PM
Donie needs to come off
Carr has really stepped up since HT. Coen has his man bet up a stick, need to get more ball into him
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 31, 2019, 05:00:50 PM
Great start to the 2nd half for Mayo. 40 mins played Kerry 2-3 Mayo 0-8
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: clarshack on March 31, 2019, 05:02:44 PM
Mayo taking a lot of wrong options in front of goal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on March 31, 2019, 05:06:02 PM
Tommy Walsh having a mare
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hardy on March 31, 2019, 05:06:36 PM
Does anybody else find it strange or worse that the nazi salute has become the standard signal for a 45?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 31, 2019, 05:09:32 PM
Mayo goal it was coming. Game on! Kerry 2-6 Mayo 1-8   49 mins gone.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 31, 2019, 05:17:14 PM
Kerry are dreadful in the 2nd half. Mayo level now and its their game to lose now.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 31, 2019, 05:20:40 PM
60 mins gone. Mayo 1-11 Kerry 2-7
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hardy on March 31, 2019, 05:22:08 PM
Ref allows as many steps as you want.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 31, 2019, 05:23:17 PM
Hate to say it, but I have a feeling Kerry will nick this!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 31, 2019, 05:25:36 PM
65 mins played another Mayo goal poor goalkeeping. Mayo 2-11 Kerry 2-8
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Kurtz on March 31, 2019, 05:26:16 PM
Kerry are afraid of them
Then again so are most teams
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 31, 2019, 05:26:46 PM
Ryan all at sea on that 2nd Mayo goal. Mayo will hardly let this national title slip through their fingers now?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 31, 2019, 05:30:20 PM
Not sure this Kerry defence is much better than last year to be honest.

Hennelly the hero again.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Harold Disgracey on March 31, 2019, 05:33:48 PM
That should be it now.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on March 31, 2019, 05:35:27 PM
FT Mayo 3-11 Kerry 2-10. Injury time goal sealed the win. Congrats to Mayo a first Div 1 title since 2001.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 31, 2019, 05:35:55 PM
Well done Dads Army!  ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 31, 2019, 05:36:49 PM
Well done Mayo. As for Kerry on the evidence of today they are still a shambles in defence.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyCake on March 31, 2019, 05:37:22 PM
Mayo for the double.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rudi on March 31, 2019, 05:37:36 PM
Fair play to the neighbours, showers of hoors that they are. Have to say they deserve it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: clarshack on March 31, 2019, 05:38:32 PM
Well done Mayo. That Kerry team are horrible to watch and have no chance come the later stages of the championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 31, 2019, 05:40:05 PM
A repeat of 2001 would be great.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 31, 2019, 05:41:41 PM
But if an unnecessary attack on Hennellh there
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on March 31, 2019, 05:46:51 PM
Congratulations to Mayo.  Great second half, and well worth their win.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on March 31, 2019, 05:49:31 PM
Enjoyable game, deserved win for Mayo and a possible dress rehearsal for the real thing later on in the year, with the tears, songs, cup, speech and victory parade at the end.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 31, 2019, 05:50:32 PM
Well done to Mayo on a deserved win. Games decided on fine margins, that late save by Hennelly to prevent Kerry from taking the lead was vital.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Gael85 on March 31, 2019, 05:58:34 PM
Well done Mayo. Stuck in there when the chips were down. Diarmuid O'Connor done nothing for 55 minutes but was unreal for last 15 scoring 1-2.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 31, 2019, 05:59:46 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 31, 2019, 05:50:32 PM
Well done to Mayo on a deserved win. Games decided on fine margins, that late save by Hennelly to prevent Kerry from taking the lead was vital.

Thing with Goalkeepers, his mistakes will be more remembered! It's an unforgiving position!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 31, 2019, 06:13:47 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 31, 2019, 05:41:41 PM
But if an unnecessary attack on Hennellh there

Yea, though it was a poor dig from Galway presenter Micheál Ó Dómhnaill. DOC brushed it off as well as he could.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 31, 2019, 06:15:22 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 31, 2019, 06:13:47 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 31, 2019, 05:41:41 PM
But if an unnecessary attack on Hennellh there

Yea, though it was a poor dig from Galway presenter Micheál Ó Dómhnaill. DOC brushed it off as well as he could.
What was said I seemed to miss it?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on March 31, 2019, 06:19:48 PM
Interviewing O'Connor and said Hennelly has had a lot of ups and downs in Croke Park
Completely uncalled for
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: southtyronegael on March 31, 2019, 06:21:19 PM
Very enjoyable game played at championship intensity. Well done mayo, fully deserved and really hope they follow it up in September. Their fans deserve it, amazing support.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 31, 2019, 06:22:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 31, 2019, 06:13:47 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 31, 2019, 05:41:41 PM
But if an unnecessary attack on Hennellh there

Yea, though it was a poor dig from Galway presenter Micheál Ó Dómhnaill. DOC brushed it off as well as he could.

Can't blame us for this one. He's from Waterford.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: southtyronegael on March 31, 2019, 06:22:49 PM
Marty Morrissy just said the same about hennelly the Muppet.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Gaafan2 on March 31, 2019, 06:23:06 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on March 31, 2019, 06:21:19 PM
Very enjoyable game played at championship intensity. Well done mayo, fully deserved and really hope they follow it up in September. Their fans deserve it, amazing support.

Ahead of your native Tyrone?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: southtyronegael on March 31, 2019, 06:25:21 PM
Quote from: gaafan2 on March 31, 2019, 06:23:06 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on March 31, 2019, 06:21:19 PM
Very enjoyable game played at championship intensity. Well done mayo, fully deserved and really hope they follow it up in September. Their fans deserve it, amazing support.

Ahead of your native Tyrone?
ok maybe not.lol. if Tyrone knocked out IL be supporting mayo.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 31, 2019, 06:49:31 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 31, 2019, 06:22:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 31, 2019, 06:13:47 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on March 31, 2019, 05:41:41 PM
But if an unnecessary attack on Hennellh there

Yea, though it was a poor dig from Galway presenter Micheál Ó Dómhnaill. DOC brushed it off as well as he could.

Can't blame us for this one. He's from Waterford.

Fair enuff, always thought he was from Galway!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on March 31, 2019, 07:51:42 PM
Delighted for the neighbours
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on March 31, 2019, 09:20:18 PM
Well done Mayo. A super performance and a well deserved win - although I thought you'd blown it in the last few minutes when you kicked away three balls. A really good day's work for Mayo.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on March 31, 2019, 09:36:03 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on March 31, 2019, 09:20:18 PM
Well done Mayo. A super performance and a well deserved win - although I thought you'd blown it in the last few minutes when you kicked away three balls. A really good day's work for Mayo.

Kerry will still be the greatest threat to Dublin's 5 in a row. The Bookies still have them at 4/1. They basically don't have to beat anybody in Munster to make the Super 8's.

For ourselves, beating anybody bar Dublin in their home venue of Croke Park has not been a problem since 2012. So today is no surprise, really!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: imtommygunn on March 31, 2019, 09:39:47 PM
Kerry looked quite limited today. Second goal was far too many steps and they weren't doing too much damage scoring points especially after that. I would be surprised were they to threaten Dublin.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on March 31, 2019, 09:50:43 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 31, 2019, 09:36:03 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on March 31, 2019, 09:20:18 PM
Well done Mayo. A super performance and a well deserved win - although I thought you'd blown it in the last few minutes when you kicked away three balls. A really good day's work for Mayo.

Kerry will still be the greatest threat to Dublin's 5 in a row. The Bookies still have them at 4/1. They basically don't have to beat anybody in Munster to make the Super 8's.

For ourselves, beating anybody bar Dublin in their home venue of Croke Park has not been a problem since 2012. So today is no surprise, really!

:D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Sportacus on March 31, 2019, 10:18:02 PM
Enjoyable stuff in Croke Park.  Saw a wonder goal in the hurling and then Kerry and Mayo both just went for it in the football (shame so many hurling supporters left early).  Mayo dominated the middle in the second half and it got them home, but Kerry forwards always looked dangerous to me and they were living on scraps.  I don't buy the idea that it was comfortable for Mayo -  Clifford scores and it was Kerry's cup. Redemption for Henelly and fair play to him.  Lots of Mayo warriors getting some deserved success and the Kerry lads will get their All Irelands down the line you would think.  Plenty to look forward to this summer by the looks of it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 31, 2019, 10:42:15 PM
An absolutely fantastic win today. I thought they all played well. Hennelly might be there for the year yet. Barrett, Harrison and Higgins take a bow, there was one stage they turned the ball over after doing it twice previously, and I said to myself if the forwards can start scoring we'll win. As for the half backs, effective if not overly starring. Vaughan did a great job on Moynihan. Midfield, I think we all can say Ruane is our find of the year anyway. AOS was brilliant once again. Half forwards - Boland had a very impressive first half. Doherty was Mayo's worst player on the pitch in my opinion. If he scored those two early misses, we'd see a different man. Diarmuid, excellent goal for the second one. McLoughlin was busy, usual self. Darren Coen wasn't too bad either. And fair play to James Carr took his debut in his stride, was very good. Subs all made a positive impact. Boyle's goal line clearance shows why he's so loved here in Mayo. Yes he's not the player he was and leaving him on the bench until 20 mins to go is the way forward. Treacy and Regan did well when they came on. Andy won a nice few balls too.

Right now, I don't give a sicín's if it's only the league. I wasn't in CP in 2001 when they last won it so I'm really, really happy with how the day went. Up Mayo.

P.S. up yours Martin Breheny, f**k you.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 31, 2019, 10:46:11 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 31, 2019, 09:36:03 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on March 31, 2019, 09:20:18 PM
Well done Mayo. A super performance and a well deserved win - although I thought you'd blown it in the last few minutes when you kicked away three balls. A really good day's work for Mayo.

Kerry will still be the greatest threat to Dublin's 5 in a row. The Bookies still have them at 4/1. They basically don't have to beat anybody in Munster to make the Super 8's.

For ourselves, beating anybody bar Dublin in their home venue of Croke Park has not been a problem since 2012. So today is no surprise, really!

The same bookies had Kerry hot favourites today.  Lets be honest this Kerry side are in transition and are few years off before becoming a threat to Dublin in the championship. Going by what was seen today they still need major work on their defence and midfield to avoid another quarter final exit.  I'd expect the Last 4 this summer to be Galway,Mayo,Tyrone and Dublin.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on March 31, 2019, 11:26:32 PM
Hennelly won us that game
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Never beat the deeler on March 31, 2019, 11:54:30 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 31, 2019, 10:42:15 PM
An absolutely fantastic win today. I thought they all played well. Hennelly might be there for the year yet. Barrett, Harrison and Higgins take a bow, there was one stage they turned the ball over after doing it twice previously, and I said to myself if the forwards can start scoring we'll win. As for the half backs, effective if not overly starring. Vaughan did a great job on Moynihan. Midfield, I think we all can say Ruane is our find of the year anyway. AOS was brilliant once again. Half forwards - Boland had a very impressive first half. Doherty was Mayo's worst player on the pitch in my opinion. If he scored those two early misses, we'd see a different man. Diarmuid, excellent goal for the second one. McLoughlin was busy, usual self. Darren Coen wasn't too bad either. And fair play to James Carr took his debut in his stride, was very good. Subs all made a positive impact. Boyle's goal line clearance shows why he's so loved here in Mayo. Yes he's not the player he was and leaving him on the bench until 20 mins to go is the way forward. Treacy and Regan did well when they came on. Andy won a nice few balls too.

Right now, I don't give a sicín's if it's only the league. I wasn't in CP in 2001 when they last won it so I'm really, really happy with how the day went. Up Mayo.

P.S. up yours Martin Breheny, f**k you.


Is that just generally,or has he done/said something this week?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on April 01, 2019, 12:31:21 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on March 31, 2019, 11:54:30 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 31, 2019, 10:42:15 PM
An absolutely fantastic win today. I thought they all played well. Hennelly might be there for the year yet. Barrett, Harrison and Higgins take a bow, there was one stage they turned the ball over after doing it twice previously, and I said to myself if the forwards can start scoring we'll win. As for the half backs, effective if not overly starring. Vaughan did a great job on Moynihan. Midfield, I think we all can say Ruane is our find of the year anyway. AOS was brilliant once again. Half forwards - Boland had a very impressive first half. Doherty was Mayo's worst player on the pitch in my opinion. If he scored those two early misses, we'd see a different man. Diarmuid, excellent goal for the second one. McLoughlin was busy, usual self. Darren Coen wasn't too bad either. And fair play to James Carr took his debut in his stride, was very good. Subs all made a positive impact. Boyle's goal line clearance shows why he's so loved here in Mayo. Yes he's not the player he was and leaving him on the bench until 20 mins to go is the way forward. Treacy and Regan did well when they came on. Andy won a nice few balls too.

Right now, I don't give a sicín's if it's only the league. I wasn't in CP in 2001 when they last won it so I'm really, really happy with how the day went. Up Mayo.

P.S. up yours Martin Breheny, f**k you.


Is that just generally,or has he done/said something this week?

I dunno? but f**k him anyway!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on April 01, 2019, 12:37:41 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 31, 2019, 10:46:11 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 31, 2019, 09:36:03 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on March 31, 2019, 09:20:18 PM
Well done Mayo. A super performance and a well deserved win - although I thought you'd blown it in the last few minutes when you kicked away three balls. A really good day's work for Mayo.

Kerry will still be the greatest threat to Dublin's 5 in a row. The Bookies still have them at 4/1. They basically don't have to beat anybody in Munster to make the Super 8's.

For ourselves, beating anybody bar Dublin in their home venue of Croke Park has not been a problem since 2012. So today is no surprise, really!

The same bookies had Kerry hot favourites today.  Lets be honest this Kerry side are in transition and are few years off before becoming a threat to Dublin in the championship. Going by what was seen today they still need major work on their defence and midfield to avoid another quarter final exit.  I'd expect the Last 4 this summer to be Galway,Mayo,Tyrone and Dublin.

Everybody's in transition all the time - including Dublin.
Mayo did very well to win a league this year with new management and a team in transition.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 01, 2019, 01:29:12 AM
Quote from: moysider on April 01, 2019, 12:37:41 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 31, 2019, 10:46:11 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 31, 2019, 09:36:03 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on March 31, 2019, 09:20:18 PM
Well done Mayo. A super performance and a well deserved win - although I thought you’d blown it in the last few minutes when you kicked away three balls. A really good day’s work for Mayo.

Kerry will still be the greatest threat to Dublin's 5 in a row. The Bookies still have them at 4/1. They basically don't have to beat anybody in Munster to make the Super 8's.

For ourselves, beating anybody bar Dublin in their home venue of Croke Park has not been a problem since 2012. So today is no surprise, really!

The same bookies had Kerry hot favourites today.  Lets be honest this Kerry side are in transition and are few years off before becoming a threat to Dublin in the championship. Going by what was seen today they still need major work on their defence and midfield to avoid another quarter final exit.  I'd expect the Last 4 this summer to be Galway,Mayo,Tyrone and Dublin.

Everybody's in transition all the time - including Dublin.
Mayo did very well to win a league this year with new management and a team in transition.

Not the type of transition of Kerry where number of key players and All Ireland winners have moved on and replaced by mostly young/inexperienced players and they are expected to show leadership straight away.  Already you have plenty that has the view that Kerry need Moran back in midfield because transition can be easier with experience players like him in the engine room.

Horan isn't new, has returned and improved. Did well to win the league no doubt and Dublin not in the final opened the door for Mayo to win this title. For every new player Horan threw into the side he made sure that they played along side plenty of experienced players and even today the older heads played a big part in the victory.



Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Never beat the deeler on April 01, 2019, 02:07:04 AM
Great news to wake up to this morning, will watch it back tonight when I get home from work.
Tis only the league for sure, but at the same time it is always good to win. Winning is a habit and that will stand to these players.

A successful league, which was made possible by picking up a couple of early wins. We had the luxury of playing a couple of fringe or completely new players right the way through, even giving James Carr his first senior start in the final.

By my count, we used 34 different players across the league, with 3 players featuring in all 8 games - Donal Vaughan, Aidan O'Shea, and Jason Doherty.

Still a long way to go, but seem to be in a better place than we have been at this time of year in quite a while.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 01, 2019, 07:57:22 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on March 31, 2019, 11:54:30 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 31, 2019, 10:42:15 PM
An absolutely fantastic win today. I thought they all played well. Hennelly might be there for the year yet. Barrett, Harrison and Higgins take a bow, there was one stage they turned the ball over after doing it twice previously, and I said to myself if the forwards can start scoring we'll win. As for the half backs, effective if not overly starring. Vaughan did a great job on Moynihan. Midfield, I think we all can say Ruane is our find of the year anyway. AOS was brilliant once again. Half forwards - Boland had a very impressive first half. Doherty was Mayo's worst player on the pitch in my opinion. If he scored those two early misses, we'd see a different man. Diarmuid, excellent goal for the second one. McLoughlin was busy, usual self. Darren Coen wasn't too bad either. And fair play to James Carr took his debut in his stride, was very good. Subs all made a positive impact. Boyle's goal line clearance shows why he's so loved here in Mayo. Yes he's not the player he was and leaving him on the bench until 20 mins to go is the way forward. Treacy and Regan did well when they came on. Andy won a nice few balls too.

Right now, I don't give a sicín's if it's only the league. I wasn't in CP in 2001 when they last won it so I'm really, really happy with how the day went. Up Mayo.

P.S. up yours Martin Breheny, f**k you.


Is that just generally,or has he done/said something this week?

Saturday's indo, putting an asterix beside our 2001 victory saying it only happened because of the foot and mouth, as well as listing all the senior finals lost since 1970.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: criostlinn on April 01, 2019, 08:37:43 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 31, 2019, 04:15:38 PM
Aidan O'Shea took a line-ball backwards there. Ref missed it.

Wasn't a line ball. It was a free
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on April 01, 2019, 08:47:59 AM
Good game of ball, however, a big difference between this and the full housed colosseum in August/September.

Interesting championship ahead.

Not overly worried.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: cornetto on April 01, 2019, 09:14:08 AM
Great result for Mayo and the other contenders in connacht,nice little target on mayo's back for the connacht c/ship and beyond.
No doubt they will be favourites for connacht and as a galwayman that suits us just fine.
Is there any chance of history repeating itself as in 2001 ??
Hopefully!😁
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: stephenite on April 01, 2019, 09:15:41 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 01, 2019, 07:57:22 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on March 31, 2019, 11:54:30 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 31, 2019, 10:42:15 PM
An absolutely fantastic win today. I thought they all played well. Hennelly might be there for the year yet. Barrett, Harrison and Higgins take a bow, there was one stage they turned the ball over after doing it twice previously, and I said to myself if the forwards can start scoring we'll win. As for the half backs, effective if not overly starring. Vaughan did a great job on Moynihan. Midfield, I think we all can say Ruane is our find of the year anyway. AOS was brilliant once again. Half forwards - Boland had a very impressive first half. Doherty was Mayo's worst player on the pitch in my opinion. If he scored those two early misses, we'd see a different man. Diarmuid, excellent goal for the second one. McLoughlin was busy, usual self. Darren Coen wasn't too bad either. And fair play to James Carr took his debut in his stride, was very good. Subs all made a positive impact. Boyle's goal line clearance shows why he's so loved here in Mayo. Yes he's not the player he was and leaving him on the bench until 20 mins to go is the way forward. Treacy and Regan did well when they came on. Andy won a nice few balls too.

Right now, I don't give a sicín's if it's only the league. I wasn't in CP in 2001 when they last won it so I'm really, really happy with how the day went. Up Mayo.

P.S. up yours Martin Breheny, f**k you.


Is that just generally,or has he done/said something this week?

Saturday's indo, putting an asterix beside our 2001 victory saying it only happened because of the foot and mouth, as well as listing all the senior finals lost since 1970.

Billy Keane and Eamon Sweeney attempting to right those wrongs today - awful articles
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on April 01, 2019, 09:39:32 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on March 31, 2019, 09:20:18 PM
Well done Mayo. A super performance and a well deserved win - although I thought you'd blown it in the last few minutes when you kicked away three balls. A really good day's work for Mayo.
I think it was 3 balls in a row Mayo kicked into the keeper's hands after O'Connor's goal. Criminal. That should be a big learning point, because they could have paid a heavy price had Clifford not missed that chance at the end. I know Hennelly did well, but it was more a bad miss than a great save in my view.

But Mayo were generally super in the second half. Well done! I said from early on in the league that they had a great find in Ruane, another big display from him. And some very nice points by new / relatively new forwards as well. Defence very strong as always, the Kerry forwards will never have come across that treatment before, so will be plenty to learn from that, if they're up to it.

Good speech by O'Connor too!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rosnarun on April 01, 2019, 09:55:31 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on April 01, 2019, 02:07:04 AM
Great news to wake up to this morning, will watch it back tonight when I get home from work.
Tis only the league for sure, but at the same time it is always good to win. Winning is a habit and that will stand to these players.

A successful league, which was made possible by picking up a couple of early wins. We had the luxury of playing a couple of fringe or completely new players right the way through, even giving James Carr his first senior start in the final.

By my count, we used 34 different players across the league, with 3 players featuring in all 8 games - Donal Vaughan, Aidan O'Shea, and Jason Doherty.

Still a long way to go, but seem to be in a better place than we have been at this time of year in quite a while.
some ne said there were 10 debutants in this years league  which would be fantastic,  id it looks like most of them are l#well up for it. but Im  not  sure if that is including player like Darren coen / Eoin o donoughoe who would have played a few years back other wise
Carr
Ruane
plunkett
Mcdonagh
Treacy
Mick Cormack
James Kelly

cant think of any more the heads not great yet
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 01, 2019, 10:04:18 AM
Delighted for the in-laws, can't imagine what they'd be like if they won the big one.

Horan was right, Mayo should have won that game by a lot more and kept Kerry in it. Mayo fullback line were excellent, left exposed for so much of the game yet coped brilliantly. Barrett had a great game on Walsh despite the obvious size difference, surprised Kerry didn't bring Walsh out to midfield where they struggled so much like they did against Galway.

You'd wonder what Mayo have been at playing AOS centre half forward the last few years, complete waste of his talents. I'd be very critical of him the last few years and couldn't understood the hype but he's been outstanding the last month and midfield doesn't look like the problem it was a few months ago. AoS hit 2 brilliant balls yesterday which created goal chances. I saw James Carr in a minor league 4 or 5 years ago and he really stood out, if he stays clear of injuries he'll be a top player.

Kerry like Galway conceded 3 very poor goals but they've made a habit of that in recent years and they've not solved that problem this year. The only reason Kerry should be second favourites is because of their soft route through to the super 8's. I just don't see why Dublin, Tyrone, Mayo, Galway, Donegal & Monaghan would fear them.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: imtommygunn on April 01, 2019, 10:16:16 AM
What I tend to think with Mayo is they need to be about 20% better than the opposition to win as they don't take enough chances to win. They are at least that better than most - except Dublin.

Some good new players coming through that being said and Moran still being one of the cleverest footballers about who should probably have seen a bit more time.

Barret maybe isn't the quickest but he is a fantastic tackler - I would have him as maybe the best in the game but unfortunately maybe just not quite quick enough to be the complete player.

Kerry again showing limitations and should have been beat by more.

Defensively Mayo looked very good though a wee bit susceptible to O'Brien's pace so could maybe shore that up a bit. The likes of Clifford was well marshalled He did ok but was trying to do too much himself and you can't do that against a defense like Mayo's.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on April 01, 2019, 06:20:11 PM
Great win! Watched back most of the game again and didn't realise at the time how well Aidan played. He was motm by a mile IMO. Diarmuid was poor for the first 51 minutes. Not in the game at all and his man scored 1-1. Had a super last 20 however. Scored 1-2, turned Crowley over when he was bearing down on goal again and then after Clifford cut the gap to 1 point at the end he won the resulting kickout which led to the Treacy goal.

Doherty and Hennelly had a mare with the dead balls. Could have proved costly.

Probably won't be too many changes to that side for championship. Cillian will come in for Coen more than likely and Clarke may get back ahead of Hennelly. Vaughan did okay but I think we'd be better off with Michael Plunkett at centre half back and Keegan/Durcan on the wings. Fionn McDonagh's injury came at the wrong time. He probably won't get back in now.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on April 01, 2019, 06:49:13 PM
Jesus, some crowds here in Castlebar to welcome the team home, must be 20-25k at least
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 01, 2019, 08:27:06 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on April 01, 2019, 06:49:13 PM
Jesus, some crowds here in Castlebar to welcome the team home, must be 20-25k at least

It's a pity the weather is like it is, they're getting drowned on that bus
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Angelo on April 01, 2019, 08:31:07 PM
Mayo were very impressive yesterday and I think they look rejuvenated this year. Aidan O'Shea looks as lean as I've seen him for Mayo and seems to be lasting the pace of the game much better, he hasn't really delivered for Mayo but this is the year.

They will likely pose the biggest threat to Dublin this year with Tyrone next in line.

Kerry look pretty average and were bulled all over the pitch yesterday, they seem to be really lacking in leaders. Mayo destroyed them when the game was in the melting pot.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on April 01, 2019, 09:29:16 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on April 01, 2019, 06:20:11 PM
Great win! Watched back most of the game again and didn't realise at the time how well Aidan played. He was motm by a mile IMO. Diarmuid was poor for the first 51 minutes. Not in the game at all and his man scored 1-1. Had a super last 20 however. Scored 1-2, turned Crowley over when he was bearing down on goal again and then after Clifford cut the gap to 1 point at the end he won the resulting kickout which led to the Treacy goal.

Doherty and Hennelly had a mare with the dead balls. Could have proved costly.

Probably won't be too many changes to that side for championship. Cillian will come in for Coen more than likely and Clarke may get back ahead of Hennelly. Vaughan did okay but I think we'd be better off with Michael Plunkett at centre half back and Keegan/Durcan on the wings. Fionn McDonagh's injury came at the wrong time. He probably won't get back in now.

I think the starting championship team is still up in the air a bit. I dunno. maybe the finishing team is more important. Think we need likes Andy and Boiler there for the end game. Thinking of those big games when the subs just were not up to it.
Think we might have more options now. As well as Andy and Boyle, likes of Seamie. Also Treacy can do damage down the stretch.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on April 01, 2019, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: Angelo on April 01, 2019, 08:31:07 PM
Mayo were very impressive yesterday and I think they look rejuvenated this year. Aidan O'Shea looks as lean as I've seen him for Mayo and seems to be lasting the pace of the game much better, he hasn't really delivered for Mayo but this is the year.

They will likely pose the biggest threat to Dublin this year with Tyrone next in line.

Kerry look pretty average and were bulled all over the pitch yesterday, they seem to be really lacking in leaders. Mayo destroyed them when the game was in the melting pot.
Gas.
Imagine how different the narrative would be had Clifford not missed the sitter at the end! People would be totally writing off Mayo as bottlers! Instead it's Kerry were bullied and have no leaders!

Kerry are a young team, who will learn loads from Sunday's game. Plus David Moran will make a huge difference.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on April 01, 2019, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Hound on April 01, 2019, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: Angelo on April 01, 2019, 08:31:07 PM
Mayo were very impressive yesterday and I think they look rejuvenated this year. Aidan O'Shea looks as lean as I've seen him for Mayo and seems to be lasting the pace of the game much better, he hasn't really delivered for Mayo but this is the year.

They will likely pose the biggest threat to Dublin this year with Tyrone next in line.

Kerry look pretty average and were bulled all over the pitch yesterday, they seem to be really lacking in leaders. Mayo destroyed them when the game was in the melting pot.
Gas.
Imagine how different the narrative would be had Clifford not missed the sitter at the end! People would be totally writing off Mayo as bottlers! Instead it's Kerry were bullied and have no leaders!

Kerry are a young team, who will learn loads from Sunday's game. Plus David Moran will make a huge difference.

A lot of planets aligned for Mayo to win a National League title yesterday.

The first and most important reason was Dublin taking a rest during the League this year.

The Second was Mayo going out early in the Championship last year. 

If ever there was an opportunity for to claim springtime Silverware this was the chance.

This Kerry team have been greatly over hyped based on past underage glory.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on April 01, 2019, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 01, 2019, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Hound on April 01, 2019, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: Angelo on April 01, 2019, 08:31:07 PM
Mayo were very impressive yesterday and I think they look rejuvenated this year. Aidan O'Shea looks as lean as I've seen him for Mayo and seems to be lasting the pace of the game much better, he hasn't really delivered for Mayo but this is the year.

They will likely pose the biggest threat to Dublin this year with Tyrone next in line.

Kerry look pretty average and were bulled all over the pitch yesterday, they seem to be really lacking in leaders. Mayo destroyed them when the game was in the melting pot.
Gas.
Imagine how different the narrative would be had Clifford not missed the sitter at the end! People would be totally writing off Mayo as bottlers! Instead it's Kerry were bullied and have no leaders!

Kerry are a young team, who will learn loads from Sunday's game. Plus David Moran will make a huge difference.

A lot of planets aligned for Mayo to win a National League title yesterday.

The first and most important reason was Dublin taking a rest during the League this year.

The Second was Mayo going out early in the Championship last year. 

If ever there was an opportunity for to claim springtime Silverware this was the chance.

This Kerry team have been greatly over hyped based on past underage glory.

All true. To an extent. Hound is correct in that a Clifford goal at the end would have resulted in a different narrative today and different photos. We probably should have won by more, but any win at ht looked unlikely because Kerry's defensive set up was fazing us.
Another other reason we managed to win it, was the contribution of new players that can play at this level. Really play. It is apparent here that Horan is not going with players that Rochford used to call on.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on April 02, 2019, 09:08:58 AM
Quote from: moysider on April 01, 2019, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 01, 2019, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Hound on April 01, 2019, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: Angelo on April 01, 2019, 08:31:07 PM
Mayo were very impressive yesterday and I think they look rejuvenated this year. Aidan O'Shea looks as lean as I've seen him for Mayo and seems to be lasting the pace of the game much better, he hasn't really delivered for Mayo but this is the year.

They will likely pose the biggest threat to Dublin this year with Tyrone next in line.

Kerry look pretty average and were bulled all over the pitch yesterday, they seem to be really lacking in leaders. Mayo destroyed them when the game was in the melting pot.
Gas.
Imagine how different the narrative would be had Clifford not missed the sitter at the end! People would be totally writing off Mayo as bottlers! Instead it's Kerry were bullied and have no leaders!

Kerry are a young team, who will learn loads from Sunday's game. Plus David Moran will make a huge difference.

A lot of planets aligned for Mayo to win a National League title yesterday.

The first and most important reason was Dublin taking a rest during the League this year.

The Second was Mayo going out early in the Championship last year. 

If ever there was an opportunity for to claim springtime Silverware this was the chance.

This Kerry team have been greatly over hyped based on past underage glory.

All true. To an extent. Hound is correct in that a Clifford goal at the end would have resulted in a different narrative today and different photos. We probably should have won by more, but any win at ht looked unlikely because Kerry's defensive set up was fazing us.
Another other reason we managed to win it, was the contribution of new players that can play at this level. Really play. It is apparent here that Horan is not going with players that Rochford used to call on.
Ruane has been hugely impressive - SOS or Parsons will have a job to get back in unless they decide to move AOS again.
On Kerry - I didn't think they were all that impressive when we played them in Tuam.
The amount of hype around Tommy Walsh has been ridiculous also.
They have a lot of good players and you'd imagine will come good eventually but I don't see too much difference between them now and last year in all honesty.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on April 02, 2019, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: galwayman on April 02, 2019, 09:08:58 AM
On Kerry - I didn't think they were all that impressive when we played them in Tuam.
I'd agree with that, I think Kerry are overrated just because they are Kerry, look at the RTE GAA rankings from today with them in second, Tyrone and Mayo should be definitely ahead of them based on what I saw in the league and particularly if you take into account previous championships (as the author seems to be doing when he references 2017 matches to justify Galway in sixth).
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0401/1040003-ranked-and-rated-the-contenders-for-the-super-8s/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0401/1040003-ranked-and-rated-the-contenders-for-the-super-8s/)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on April 02, 2019, 10:34:48 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on April 02, 2019, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: galwayman on April 02, 2019, 09:08:58 AM
On Kerry - I didn't think they were all that impressive when we played them in Tuam.
I'd agree with that, I think Kerry are overrated just because they are Kerry, look at the RTE GAA rankings from today with them in second, Tyrone and Mayo should be definitely ahead of them based on what I saw in the league and particularly if you take into account previous championships (as the author seems to be doing when he references 2017 matches to justify Galway in sixth).
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0401/1040003-ranked-and-rated-the-contenders-for-the-super-8s/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0401/1040003-ranked-and-rated-the-contenders-for-the-super-8s/)

Tbf, the list is for making the super 8s (making it even more pointless than most of these lists) so kerry and Dublin  are virtually guaranteed a spot. The remaining 6 will have to fight for a place in it
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on April 02, 2019, 11:06:40 AM
My reading of it is that he is still ranking within the list of teams who he thinks will make the last eight: "Here, we take [sic] rank the best teams in the country and predict the likely make-up of the Super 8s, when the summer will reach its pointy end."
If it was based on who has an easy route to the Super 8s than Galway have an easier potential route to it than Tyrone who are out in the preliminary round in Ulster and will have to likely beat Donegal (semi) and Monaghan (final) to get there, Galway have one tough game to beat Mayo/Rossies in the Connacht final (apologies to London and Sligo but I can't see Galway losing either of those games).
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 02, 2019, 11:17:18 AM
There's a clear team at the top well clear of everyone in Dublin but then there's not a great deal between Galway, Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal & Monaghan. Everyone single one of those apart from Monaghan can make legitimate claims for their team going in the right direction and could beat anyone outside of Dublin. Thats probably harsh on Monaghan but without Kearns this summer I think their going to really struggle at midfield.

I don't get the Kerry hype, think they'll do well to make the last 4. They clearly struggle against Dublin & Mayo whilst Galway & Tyrone will be more than confident of beating them. They've got so many issues, more than anyone else and nobody knows who's their first choice fullback, centre half back and midfield are; They won't play a good team until the super 8's either, thats going to hinder them.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyCake on April 02, 2019, 01:17:00 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 02, 2019, 11:17:18 AM
There's a clear team at the top well clear of everyone in Dublin but then there's not a great deal between Galway, Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal & Monaghan. Everyone single one of those apart from Monaghan can make legitimate claims for their team going in the right direction and could beat anyone outside of Dublin. Thats probably harsh on Monaghan but without Kearns this summer I think their going to really struggle at midfield.

I don't get the Kerry hype, think they'll do well to make the last 4. They clearly struggle against Dublin & Mayo whilst Galway & Tyrone will be more than confident of beating them. They've got so many issues, more than anyone else and nobody knows who's their first choice fullback, centre half back and midfield are; They won't play a good team until the super 8's either, thats going to hinder them.

After Dublin, I'd have Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, in that order. Those four are competing for an AI final spot v Dublin really. Donegal further back with Galway. Don't understand the Galway hype tbh.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on April 02, 2019, 01:28:36 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on April 02, 2019, 01:17:00 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 02, 2019, 11:17:18 AM
There's a clear team at the top well clear of everyone in Dublin but then there's not a great deal between Galway, Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal & Monaghan. Everyone single one of those apart from Monaghan can make legitimate claims for their team going in the right direction and could beat anyone outside of Dublin. Thats probably harsh on Monaghan but without Kearns this summer I think their going to really struggle at midfield.

I don't get the Kerry hype, think they'll do well to make the last 4. They clearly struggle against Dublin & Mayo whilst Galway & Tyrone will be more than confident of beating them. They've got so many issues, more than anyone else and nobody knows who's their first choice fullback, centre half back and midfield are; They won't play a good team until the super 8's either, thats going to hinder them.

After Dublin, I'd have Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, in that order. Those four are competing for an AI final spot v Dublin really. Donegal further back with Galway. Don't understand the Galway hype tbh.
What Galway hype?  Where are you seeing it?  All I see is us taking flak right, left and centre for our style of play and that is somewhat justified although it did seem to improve slightly in the latter games (notwithstanding the brainfarts v Tyrone)  - still has a way to go but that's another discussion.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on April 02, 2019, 01:53:30 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on April 02, 2019, 01:28:36 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on April 02, 2019, 01:17:00 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 02, 2019, 11:17:18 AM
There's a clear team at the top well clear of everyone in Dublin but then there's not a great deal between Galway, Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal & Monaghan. Everyone single one of those apart from Monaghan can make legitimate claims for their team going in the right direction and could beat anyone outside of Dublin. Thats probably harsh on Monaghan but without Kearns this summer I think their going to really struggle at midfield.

I don't get the Kerry hype, think they'll do well to make the last 4. They clearly struggle against Dublin & Mayo whilst Galway & Tyrone will be more than confident of beating them. They've got so many issues, more than anyone else and nobody knows who's their first choice fullback, centre half back and midfield are; They won't play a good team until the super 8's either, thats going to hinder them.

After Dublin, I'd have Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, in that order. Those four are competing for an AI final spot v Dublin really. Donegal further back with Galway. Don't understand the Galway hype tbh.
What Galway hype?  Where are you seeing it?  All I see is us taking flak right, left and centre for our style of play and that is somewhat justified although it did seem to improve slightly in the latter games (notwithstanding the brainfarts v Tyrone)  - still has a way to go but that's another discussion.

There has been no talking up Galway. A bit about how classy Corofin were winning the AI Club, but nothing else. They are definitely under the radar at the moment going into the Championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 02, 2019, 02:07:58 PM
Galway have amassed more league points over the past 2 years than anyone else in Division 1 which was even a surprise to me. Connacht champions and AI semi-finalists last year. Quite clearly they are among the top sides now or at least the top sides just below Dublin. The style of play favoured by the management though is not going to win them many plaudits amongst neutrals. Just ask Joe Brolly. But with a fairly straightforward path to the Connacht final you would expect them to be in the Super 8's again with every chance of reaching another semi-final. Same boat as a few other sides.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on April 02, 2019, 02:15:57 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on April 02, 2019, 01:28:36 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on April 02, 2019, 01:17:00 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 02, 2019, 11:17:18 AM
There's a clear team at the top well clear of everyone in Dublin but then there's not a great deal between Galway, Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal & Monaghan. Everyone single one of those apart from Monaghan can make legitimate claims for their team going in the right direction and could beat anyone outside of Dublin. Thats probably harsh on Monaghan but without Kearns this summer I think their going to really struggle at midfield.

I don't get the Kerry hype, think they'll do well to make the last 4. They clearly struggle against Dublin & Mayo whilst Galway & Tyrone will be more than confident of beating them. They've got so many issues, more than anyone else and nobody knows who's their first choice fullback, centre half back and midfield are; They won't play a good team until the super 8's either, thats going to hinder them.

After Dublin, I'd have Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, in that order. Those four are competing for an AI final spot v Dublin really. Donegal further back with Galway. Don't understand the Galway hype tbh.
What Galway hype?  Where are you seeing it?  All I see is us taking flak right, left and centre for our style of play and that is somewhat justified although it did seem to improve slightly in the latter games (notwithstanding the brainfarts v Tyrone)  - still has a way to go but that's another discussion.
Galway hype?! The most derided team in the country this year, even by his standards Brolly has come out with some outrageous statements against the county team.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyCake on April 02, 2019, 03:29:13 PM
Well they've been talked about as contenders and competing with the big guns. They're a long way from being contenders.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on April 02, 2019, 03:36:29 PM
Quote from: moysider on April 01, 2019, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 01, 2019, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Hound on April 01, 2019, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: Angelo on April 01, 2019, 08:31:07 PM
Mayo were very impressive yesterday and I think they look rejuvenated this year. Aidan O'Shea looks as lean as I've seen him for Mayo and seems to be lasting the pace of the game much better, he hasn't really delivered for Mayo but this is the year.

They will likely pose the biggest threat to Dublin this year with Tyrone next in line.

Kerry look pretty average and were bulled all over the pitch yesterday, they seem to be really lacking in leaders. Mayo destroyed them when the game was in the melting pot.
Gas.
Imagine how different the narrative would be had Clifford not missed the sitter at the end! People would be totally writing off Mayo as bottlers! Instead it's Kerry were bullied and have no leaders!

Kerry are a young team, who will learn loads from Sunday's game. Plus David Moran will make a huge difference.

A lot of planets aligned for Mayo to win a National League title yesterday.

The first and most important reason was Dublin taking a rest during the League this year.

The Second was Mayo going out early in the Championship last year. 

If ever there was an opportunity for to claim springtime Silverware this was the chance.

This Kerry team have been greatly over hyped based on past underage glory.

All true. To an extent. Hound is correct in that a Clifford goal at the end would have resulted in a different narrative today and different photos. We probably should have won by more, but any win at ht looked unlikely because Kerry's defensive set up was fazing us.
Another other reason we managed to win it, was the contribution of new players that can play at this level. Really play. It is apparent here that Horan is not going with players that Rochford used to call on.
I don't think it fazed Mayo at all, look at how easy Vaughan got in for his goal chance 1st half and Boland opted to fist over the bar when the goal was on. Mayo looked to exploit rookie Graham O'Sullivan all game and he was caught badly out of position for that Tracey goal that sealed the win.  I also thought the Kerry full back line got weaker once Sherwood was subbed off.

A big part of Horan's first time as manager with Mayo 2011-2014 was getting the most out of the 2006 U21 All Ireland winners and now he's looking to do the same with 2016 U21 All Ireland winners yet some think underage success means little when it comes to senior football.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rosnarun on April 02, 2019, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: moysider on April 01, 2019, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 01, 2019, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Hound on April 01, 2019, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: Angelo on April 01, 2019, 08:31:07 PM
Mayo were very impressive yesterday and I think they look rejuvenated this year. Aidan O'Shea looks as lean as I've seen him for Mayo and seems to be lasting the pace of the game much better, he hasn't really delivered for Mayo but this is the year.

They will likely pose the biggest threat to Dublin this year with Tyrone next in line.

Kerry look pretty average and were bulled all over the pitch yesterday, they seem to be really lacking in leaders. Mayo destroyed them when the game was in the melting pot.
Gas.
Imagine how different the narrative would be had Clifford not missed the sitter at the end! People would be totally writing off Mayo as bottlers! Instead it's Kerry were bullied and have no leaders!

Kerry are a young team, who will learn loads from Sunday's game. Plus David Moran will make a huge difference.

A lot of planets aligned for Mayo to win a National League title yesterday.

The first and most important reason was Dublin taking a rest during the League this year.

The Second was Mayo going out early in the Championship last year. 

If ever there was an opportunity for to claim springtime Silverware this was the chance.

This Kerry team have been greatly over hyped based on past underage glory.

All true. To an extent. Hound is correct in that a Clifford goal at the end would have resulted in a different narrative today and different photos. We probably should have won by more, but any win at ht looked unlikely because Kerry's defensive set up was fazing us.
Another other reason we managed to win it, was the contribution of new players that can play at this level. Really play. It is apparent here that Horan is not going with players that Rochford used to call on.

sorry but that is a load of shite
if mayo were to add upp if all the Why ifs buT at and ands  over the last ten years aidan o se would have 4/5 all Ireland medals
Clifford had a attempt at goal Hennelly saved it , that what he was there to do
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 02, 2019, 03:43:19 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on April 02, 2019, 03:29:13 PM
Well they've been talked about as contenders and competing with the big guns. They're a long way from being contenders.

Do you have Kerry as contenders? if so based on what I'd wonder. Watching them last Sunday they look no better than last year and any team that ropey in defence will not be All Ireland contenders. At least Galway will be hard to score against making them harder to beat but they won't be beating Dublin and Tyrone will likely beat them if meet this summer also.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 02, 2019, 04:00:04 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on April 02, 2019, 03:29:13 PM
Well they've been talked about as contenders and competing with the big guns. They're a long way from being contenders.

Dublin are the only "big gun" IMO. Galway were in the last four just 7 months ago. If you're in an AI semi-final you are a contender. Doesn't mean you will win it mind. They probably won't be too far off the last four again this year.

Personally despite all the talk I think Dublin will win it relatively handily again this year but the rest are much of a muchness once they play each other and all capable of knocking the other off on a given day. Two of that bunch will avoid Dublin in the semis (depending on who wins provincial titles) and one of them will reach the final.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 02, 2019, 04:52:40 PM
God forbid a team with a lot of young players might improve. Teams gets better as they evolve and will continue to do so, don't understand the logic that we'll be stuck with the same contenders as in previous years. It was only last year that Galway & Monaghan made the semi's after an absences of 17 and 30 years.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on April 02, 2019, 07:21:26 PM
Generous comments from the Anglo-Celt about Jim Gavin and the Dublin team.

https://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/roundup/articles/2019/03/28/4171691-opinion-dubs-are-a-team-to-be-proud-of/
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on April 02, 2019, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 02, 2019, 03:36:29 PM
Quote from: moysider on April 01, 2019, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 01, 2019, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: Hound on April 01, 2019, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: Angelo on April 01, 2019, 08:31:07 PM
Mayo were very impressive yesterday and I think they look rejuvenated this year. Aidan O'Shea looks as lean as I've seen him for Mayo and seems to be lasting the pace of the game much better, he hasn't really delivered for Mayo but this is the year.

They will likely pose the biggest threat to Dublin this year with Tyrone next in line.

Kerry look pretty average and were bulled all over the pitch yesterday, they seem to be really lacking in leaders. Mayo destroyed them when the game was in the melting pot.
Gas.
Imagine how different the narrative would be had Clifford not missed the sitter at the end! People would be totally writing off Mayo as bottlers! Instead it's Kerry were bullied and have no leaders!

Kerry are a young team, who will learn loads from Sunday's game. Plus David Moran will make a huge difference.

A lot of planets aligned for Mayo to win a National League title yesterday.

The first and most important reason was Dublin taking a rest during the League this year.

The Second was Mayo going out early in the Championship last year. 

If ever there was an opportunity for to claim springtime Silverware this was the chance.

This Kerry team have been greatly over hyped based on past underage glory.

All true. To an extent. Hound is correct in that a Clifford goal at the end would have resulted in a different narrative today and different photos. We probably should have won by more, but any win at ht looked unlikely because Kerry's defensive set up was fazing us.
Another other reason we managed to win it, was the contribution of new players that can play at this level. Really play. It is apparent here that Horan is not going with players that Rochford used to call on.
I don't think it fazed Mayo at all, look at how easy Vaughan got in for his goal chance 1st half and Boland opted to fist over the bar when the goal was on. Mayo looked to exploit rookie Graham O'Sullivan all game and he was caught badly out of position for that Tracey goal that sealed the win. I also thought the Kerry full back line got weaker once Sherwood was subbed off.

A big part of Horan's first time as manager with Mayo 2011-2014 was getting the most out of the 2006 U21 All Ireland winners and now he's looking to do the same with 2016 U21 All Ireland winners yet some think underage success means little when it comes to senior football.

I thought Sherwood was the biggest weak link in the Kerry defence. He was marking Darren Coen in the 1st half and Coen won every ball that went in to him. He got switched on to James Carr for the 2nd half and was getting well beat by him before being taken off.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on April 02, 2019, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on April 02, 2019, 07:21:26 PM
Generous comments from the Anglo-Celt about Jim Gavin and the Dublin team.

https://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/roundup/articles/2019/03/28/4171691-opinion-dubs-are-a-team-to-be-proud-of/

You're yesterday's story, a bhuachaill, get used to it! ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on April 02, 2019, 08:43:14 PM
Has one of our Roscommon posters been decommissioned?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on April 02, 2019, 08:45:52 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on April 02, 2019, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on April 02, 2019, 07:21:26 PM
Generous comments from the Anglo-Celt about Jim Gavin and the Dublin team.

https://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/roundup/articles/2019/03/28/4171691-opinion-dubs-are-a-team-to-be-proud-of/

You're yesterday's story, a bhuachaill, get used to it! ;)

So you don't subscribe to the "Dublin Thousand-Year Reich" theory which has been the constant whinge of a couple of defeatist contributors to this forum over the past few years.  ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on April 02, 2019, 08:49:01 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on April 02, 2019, 08:45:52 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on April 02, 2019, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on April 02, 2019, 07:21:26 PM
Generous comments from the Anglo-Celt about Jim Gavin and the Dublin team.

https://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/roundup/articles/2019/03/28/4171691-opinion-dubs-are-a-team-to-be-proud-of/

You're yesterday's story, a bhuachaill, get used to it! ;)

So you don't subscribe to the "Dublin Thousand-Year Reich" theory which has been the constant whinge of a couple of defeatist contributors to this forum over the past few years.  ;)

You have to admit that they are the best that money can buy.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Angelo on April 02, 2019, 09:25:49 PM
Quote from: Hound on April 01, 2019, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: Angelo on April 01, 2019, 08:31:07 PM
Mayo were very impressive yesterday and I think they look rejuvenated this year. Aidan O'Shea looks as lean as I've seen him for Mayo and seems to be lasting the pace of the game much better, he hasn't really delivered for Mayo but this is the year.

They will likely pose the biggest threat to Dublin this year with Tyrone next in line.

Kerry look pretty average and were bulled all over the pitch yesterday, they seem to be really lacking in leaders. Mayo destroyed them when the game was in the melting pot.
Gas.
Imagine how different the narrative would be had Clifford not missed the sitter at the end! People would be totally writing off Mayo as bottlers! Instead it's Kerry were bullied and have no leaders!

Kerry are a young team, who will learn loads from Sunday's game. Plus David Moran will make a huge difference.

Kerry would have fluked it and Mayo would have been the architects of their own downfall, for me that match was a 4 point hammering. Mayo were down to 14 men for the last 10 minutes too with a soft/silly red card for O'Shea. Mayo were rampant in the second half and a bit like the semi-final meetings in 2017, they let Kerry back into the game when they should have them well out of sight. They were failings on Mayo's part. Whatever may have happened with the Clifford chance, there's not much denying that Kerry were comprehensively outplayed over the course of the 70 minutes, Mayo had plenty of goals chances they didn't convert throughout - Vaughan had one early doors, Boland had one on when he took the point instead, Carr had one in the second half, they also hit a number of poor enough wides as well.

Kerry are a young team who look a few years off really being top contenders, they have big issues at the back, in the middle of the pitch and  physically look behind Dublin, Mayo and Tyrone. Worryingly as well is the form of Geaney and O'Donoghue who look shadows of their former selves.

I don't see Kerry as any better than last year, there's a lot of hype based on nothing really that surrounds them. I'm sure in 2/3 years they'll be back in All Ireland finals but I don't see them being able to beat Dublin or Mayo in a big Championship game in Croke Park this year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: kerryforsam19 on April 02, 2019, 10:27:32 PM
Well done to the mayo boys. Better team on day. Our lads never showed up on the day and could have stole at at the end. Still have a Gavin White, David Moran, Micheal Burns, Tadgh Morley and John Buckley to return. P.Geaney first game back since operation. Jason Foley only back from injury and James Donoghue will improve with more games. Thought referee could have given more protection to Cifford, O'Brien and O'shea who were pulled and dragged off the ball. Referee should have red carded Diarmuid O'Connor for high challenge on Gavin Crowley. Tom Sullivan has his nose busted too. There was a small dunt on Tommy Walsh by Aidan O'Shea in first half and Mayo forwards pulling Kerry backs to the ground at the end. Sure look the better team won and we can't have any complaints.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 02, 2019, 11:25:27 PM
Apart from all those complaints eh?
Kerry Diarmuid o'Connor should have been black carded for the foul on Boland.
AOS was first booked when Jack Barry lulled him to the ground

On other points, Sherwood was destroyed, I said at HT we should get the ball into Coen, he won everything
Lastly Boland's chance was not a goal chance, it's not soccer, just cause he was round the goalie there were three Kerry lads back and he was at an angle. What he should have done was gone to ground the second the goalie swung outta him
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Angelo on April 02, 2019, 11:44:13 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 02, 2019, 11:25:27 PM

Lastly Boland's chance was not a goal chance, it's not soccer, just cause he was round the goalie there were three Kerry lads back and he was at an angle. What he should have done was gone to ground the second the goalie swung outta him

What do you think footballers do when they get around the keeper and player retreat back on the line?

There was a goal there for the taking, he opted to take the point which is fair enough but the goal was very much on.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on April 03, 2019, 12:26:04 AM
Quote from: kerryforsam19 on April 02, 2019, 10:27:32 PM
Well done to the mayo boys. Better team on day. Our lads never showed up on the day and could have stole at at the end. Still have a Gavin White, David Moran, Micheal Burns, Tadgh Morley and John Buckley to return. P.Geaney first game back since operation. Jason Foley only back from injury and James Donoghue will improve with more games. Thought referee could have given more protection to Cifford, O'Brien and O'shea who were pulled and dragged off the ball. Referee should have red carded Diarmuid O'Connor for high challenge on Gavin Crowley. Tom Sullivan has his nose busted too. There was a small dunt on Tommy Walsh by Aidan O'Shea in first half and Mayo forwards pulling Kerry backs to the ground at the end. Sure look the better team won and we can't have any complaints.

Sure that's full of complaints.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on April 03, 2019, 12:30:23 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 02, 2019, 11:25:27 PM
Apart from all those complaints eh?
Kerry Diarmuid o'Connor should have been black carded for the foul on Boland.
AOS was first booked when Jack Barry lulled him to the ground

On other points, Sherwood was destroyed, I said at HT we should get the ball into Coen, he won everything
Lastly Boland's chance was not a goal chance, it's not soccer, just cause he was round the goalie there were three Kerry lads back and he was at an angle. What he should have done was gone to ground the second the goalie swung outta him

Correct. That was never a goal chance and Boland was brave as f**k to win that ball ahead of keeper. Also Kerry were very well set up defensively for that game. Ultra defensive really. A lot of the narrative about that game has been bollocks.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on April 03, 2019, 12:54:29 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/kxKRbGV/w-YAsgs-OOOD.jpg)

One defender back and a few others trying to run back. It was certainly a goal chance but the angle Boland was at probably made up his mind to fist the bar over the bar.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 03, 2019, 01:03:13 AM
Any team well set up defensively does not concede goals like that last Sunday and Kerry were lucky they didn't concede at least 5 goals due to ropey defending.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Angelo on April 03, 2019, 07:16:14 AM
Quote from: moysider on April 03, 2019, 12:30:23 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 02, 2019, 11:25:27 PM
Apart from all those complaints eh?
Kerry Diarmuid o'Connor should have been black carded for the foul on Boland.
AOS was first booked when Jack Barry lulled him to the ground

On other points, Sherwood was destroyed, I said at HT we should get the ball into Coen, he won everything
Lastly Boland's chance was not a goal chance, it's not soccer, just cause he was round the goalie there were three Kerry lads back and he was at an angle. What he should have done was gone to ground the second the goalie swung outta him

It was definite goal chance as you can see below. He decided to take his point which is fair enough but without any doubt at all, the goal was on, you can clearly see that in the photo below. He absolutely has the time and space to check back in and roll it into the net.

Correct. That was never a goal chance and Boland was brave as f**k to win that ball ahead of keeper. Also Kerry were very well set up defensively for that game. Ultra defensive really. A lot of the narrative about that game has been bollocks.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 03, 2019, 08:46:02 AM
Quote from: kerryforsam19 on April 02, 2019, 10:27:32 PM
Well done to the mayo boys. Better team on day. Our lads never showed up on the day and could have stole at at the end. Still have a Gavin White, David Moran, Micheal Burns, Tadgh Morley and John Buckley to return. P.Geaney first game back since operation. Jason Foley only back from injury and James Donoghue will improve with more games. Thought referee could have given more protection to Cifford, O'Brien and O'shea who were pulled and dragged off the ball. Referee should have red carded Diarmuid O'Connor for high challenge on Gavin Crowley. Tom Sullivan has his nose busted too. There was a small dunt on Tommy Walsh by Aidan O'Shea in first half and Mayo forwards pulling Kerry backs to the ground at the end. Sure look the better team won and we can't have any complaints.

Aww poor Kerry bucks getting a few hits. You'd swear no Kerry man ever did any off the ball stuff. Ever. And Tom O'Sullivan was hanging out of McLoughlin all through the first half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: imtommygunn on April 03, 2019, 08:53:57 AM
We can't have any complaints though I have complained for my entire post ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on April 03, 2019, 11:47:48 AM
Quote from: kerryforsam19 on April 02, 2019, 10:27:32 PM
Well done to the mayo boys. Better team on day. Our lads never showed up on the day and could have stole at at the end. Still have a Gavin White, David Moran, Micheal Burns, Tadgh Morley and John Buckley to return. P.Geaney first game back since operation. Jason Foley only back from injury and James Donoghue will improve with more games. Thought referee could have given more protection to Cifford, O'Brien and O'shea who were pulled and dragged off the ball. Referee should have red carded Diarmuid O'Connor for high challenge on Gavin Crowley. Tom Sullivan has his nose busted too. There was a small dunt on Tommy Walsh by Aidan O'Shea in first half and Mayo forwards pulling Kerry backs to the ground at the end. Sure look the better team won and we can't have any complaints.
Glad to see you can't have any complaints! That's mighty noble of you seeing you listed a full ass load of them throughout your lament post. But good to see that, at the end of it all, you are prepared to overlook the lot. Maybe that's what sport should be about.
But you have left me with an unanswered question to put to you and I won't sleep until I know the answer.
How big is a small dunt?
I mean is it a push or a shove or maybe a good kick up the hole that was only half meant? Maybe Aido was only wiping his nose with the back of his hand and somehow his elbow managed to get  snuck in Tommy's eye- stranger things have happened, y'a know.
I'd really appreciate your answer as the whole of Mayo, and a good bit of Roscommon too, would like to know if Aido is really going soft in the head. I mean from Belmullet to Ballagh we'll start worrying if Aidan O'Shea ever finds a Kerryman between him and the ball and only gives him a small dunt.  ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on April 03, 2019, 12:29:15 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on April 02, 2019, 07:21:26 PM
Generous comments from the Anglo-Celt about Jim Gavin and the Dublin team.

https://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/roundup/articles/2019/03/28/4171691-opinion-dubs-are-a-team-to-be-proud-of/

"Were Dublin low on motivation coming down the M3 for this game?"

No matter where you travel from to get to Cavan, it's always down.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 03, 2019, 12:52:00 PM
Why bother replying to a Kerry wum, its probably the missing Rossie wum who's gone missing.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on April 03, 2019, 12:57:15 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 03, 2019, 08:46:02 AM
Quote from: kerryforsam19 on April 02, 2019, 10:27:32 PM
Well done to the mayo boys. Better team on day. Our lads never showed up on the day and could have stole at at the end. Still have a Gavin White, David Moran, Micheal Burns, Tadgh Morley and John Buckley to return. P.Geaney first game back since operation. Jason Foley only back from injury and James Donoghue will improve with more games. Thought referee could have given more protection to Cifford, O'Brien and O'shea who were pulled and dragged off the ball. Referee should have red carded Diarmuid O'Connor for high challenge on Gavin Crowley. Tom Sullivan has his nose busted too. There was a small dunt on Tommy Walsh by Aidan O'Shea in first half and Mayo forwards pulling Kerry backs to the ground at the end. Sure look the better team won and we can't have any complaints.

Aww poor Kerry bucks getting a few hits. You'd swear no Kerry man ever did any off the ball stuff. Ever. And Tom O'Sullivan was hanging out of McLoughlin all through the first half.

It's laughable to see Kerry lads complaining about physicality, Kerry are the most ruthless and cynical team in the country going back years, that allied to their great skill and ability is the foundation for their huge success.
The amount of "yerra" from the Kerry media mafia over the years in creating the notion of a "whiter than white" and "pure footballing" Kerry is one of the great Irish sporting myths, they'll do whatever it takes to win and there are massive expectations in the county every year for success. Kerry fans should just be honest with themselves about that and get on with it, plenty of Kerry players have relied on the same "dark arts" to subdue opposition players over the course of the many national final successes they've had as a county.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on April 03, 2019, 02:02:29 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 03, 2019, 12:52:00 PM
Why bother replying to a Kerry wum, its probably the missing Rossie wum who's gone missing.

Agreed
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on April 03, 2019, 02:44:44 PM
Quote from: kerryforsam19 on April 02, 2019, 10:27:32 PM
Well done to the mayo boys. Better team on day. Our lads never showed up on the day and could have stole at at the end. Still have a Gavin White, David Moran, Micheal Burns, Tadgh Morley and John Buckley to return. P.Geaney first game back since operation. Jason Foley only back from injury and James Donoghue will improve with more games. Thought referee could have given more protection to Cifford, O'Brien and O'shea who were pulled and dragged off the ball. Referee should have red carded Diarmuid O'Connor for high challenge on Gavin Crowley. Tom Sullivan has his nose busted too. There was a small dunt on Tommy Walsh by Aidan O'Shea in first half and Mayo forwards pulling Kerry backs to the ground at the end. Sure look the better team won and we can't have any complaints.
you're only realising that about the Mayo backs now?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 04, 2019, 11:09:29 PM
I presume people have seen the video of the Mayo fan
f**king hilarious
Thata boy Paddy Durcan, you bring it to him all day long, in bucket loads, ya c**t O'Se"
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on April 04, 2019, 11:20:55 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 04, 2019, 11:09:29 PM
I presume people have seen the video of the Mayo fan
f**king hilarious
Thata boy Paddy Durcan, you bring it to him all day long, in bucket loads, ya c**t O'Se"

Post a link
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on April 05, 2019, 01:20:52 AM
Quote from: whitey on April 04, 2019, 11:20:55 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 04, 2019, 11:09:29 PM
I presume people have seen the video of the Mayo fan
f**king hilarious
Thata boy Paddy Durcan, you bring it to him all day long, in bucket loads, ya c**t O'Se"

Post a link
That's pretty tame stuff.
Here's (https://www.balls.ie/gaa/mayo-league-victory-martin-carney-local-radio-commentary-408369) Martin Carney and the Mid West Radio commentator, Michael D. McAndrew during the last few minutes of Sunday's game. Effin' Eddy wouldn't get a lookin with this pair of boyos about. ;D
If you are in a hurry, Here  (https://soundcloud.com/user-562766398/mayo-v-kerry-mar2019) is the actual commentary.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 05, 2019, 09:51:59 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 04, 2019, 11:09:29 PM
I presume people have seen the video of the Mayo fan
f**king hilarious
Thata boy Paddy Durcan, you bring it to him all day long, in bucket loads, ya c**t O'Se"

In the lower cusack or somewhere else?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on April 05, 2019, 09:58:03 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 05, 2019, 09:51:59 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 04, 2019, 11:09:29 PM
I presume people have seen the video of the Mayo fan
f**king hilarious
Thata boy Paddy Durcan, you bring it to him all day long, in bucket loads, ya c**t O'Se"

In the lower cusack or somewhere else?
Nope at home by the looks of it watching it on telly.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 06, 2019, 12:04:03 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 05, 2019, 09:51:59 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on April 04, 2019, 11:09:29 PM
I presume people have seen the video of the Mayo fan
f**king hilarious
Thata boy Paddy Durcan, you bring it to him all day long, in bucket loads, ya c**t O'Se"

In the lower cusack or somewhere else?

Sent it to you there Farr
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on April 06, 2019, 01:49:59 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on April 02, 2019, 08:45:52 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on April 02, 2019, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on April 02, 2019, 07:21:26 PM
Generous comments from the Anglo-Celt about Jim Gavin and the Dublin team.

https://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/roundup/articles/2019/03/28/4171691-opinion-dubs-are-a-team-to-be-proud-of/

You're yesterday's story, a bhuachaill, get used to it! ;)

So you don't subscribe to the "Dublin Thousand-Year Reich" theory which has been the constant whinge of a couple of defeatist contributors to this forum over the past few years.  ;)

Only trying to make the oul cap fit, even where wheels fall totally off ;)