Tipp loses two players to retirement

youbetterbelieveit · January 13, 2009, 03:50:46 PM

Tipperary veterans Eamonn Corcoran and Paul Ormonde have called time on their intercounty careers.

The pair informed manager Liam Sheedy that they no longer wish to be considered for Premier County selection.

The two defenders have enjoyed largely symmetrical careers: both debuted in 1999; both are 31; and both have retired at the same time.

Both men starred on the 2001 Liam McCarthy Cup winning side. Wing back Corcoran pulled on the Tipp shirt on championship day an impressive 43 times, while the versatile Ormonde struggled with injury and lined out only 16 times in the premier competition.

Corcoran collected an All Star in 2001, while Ormonde would have been team captain last year had he actually made the starting XV.

Onlooker · January 13, 2009, 04:34:03 PM

Two fine players who gave great service to Tipperary. It will be difficult to replace Corcoran at wing back, even if he lost a bit of pace over the last year or two. Paul Ormond was unlucky with injuries and would certainly have played in many more Championship matches if he had stayed injury free. He was also a very fine footballer and won a Junior All Ireland medal in 1998, when Tipp beat Offaly in the All Ireland Final, as well as a Munster Minor Football medal in 1995. In an earlier generation he would have been a top class dual inter county player and was a big loss to Tipperary football teams, because of his hurling commitments.

bottlethrower7 · January 15, 2009, 03:59:12 PM

Quote from: Onlooker on January 13, 2009, 04:34:03 PM
Two fine players who gave great service to Tipperary. It will be difficult to replace Corcoran at wing back, even if he lost a bit of pace over the last year or two. Paul Ormond was unlucky with injuries and would certainly have played in many more Championship matches if he had stayed injury free. He was also a very fine footballer and won a Junior All Ireland medal in 1998, when Tipp beat Offaly in the All Ireland Final, as well as a Munster Minor Football medal in 1995. In an earlier generation he would have been a top class dual inter county player and was a big loss to Tipperary football teams, because of his hurling commitments.

Ormonde's head was never in it. Hurling was never really top priority with him and you couldn't really blame him. He quit when he went decided to be a vet, and to go back and do the leaving. He was still hurling away with Loughmore, but had no intentions at that point of ever being back with Tipp. Even during his UCD days he couldn't nail down a spot of his own on the team.

He was a good hurler. He was a makeshift corner-back though, don't forget that. Nicky English saw something in him that might work as a CB and he was right. But I always reckoned he played above himself that year and the next. I certainly wouldn't agree that he was in any way 'top-class'. Very good when at his best, yes, but never top-class.

Corcoran was another over-achiever. He never blossomed into the player he promised to be back in his college days. He was an absolutely dire man-marker but tended to cover himself by his ability to read games and situations during games. I'd say the man most disappointed about Eamonn Corcoran's announcement is Dan Shanahan. Corcoran made a star out of Dan who was smart enough to stand shoulder to shoulder with him anytime they met. Corcoran couldn't handle that.

Reillers · January 15, 2009, 10:07:46 PM

Two fine players who have given a lot. Great servants with tremendous heart, who will be missed.

Ash Smoker · January 25, 2009, 05:39:07 PM

A bit harsh on Corcoran re: Shanahan there BT.
For a good few years Shanahan never did much against Corcoran.
The only time I remember him cleaning Corcoran was in 2006 in Croke Park.
Remember Shanahan also got a load of goals against a highly rated Cork team too.

However last year it was clear that Eamonn didn't have the legs for inter county hurling any more.
He probably picked the right time to go.

THE BLUE AND GOLD · February 12, 2009, 10:44:18 PM

Quote from: bottlethrower7 on January 15, 2009, 03:59:12 PM
Quote from: Onlooker on January 13, 2009, 04:34:03 PM
Two fine players who gave great service to Tipperary. It will be difficult to replace Corcoran at wing back, even if he lost a bit of pace over the last year or two. Paul Ormond was unlucky with injuries and would certainly have played in many more Championship matches if he had stayed injury free. He was also a very fine footballer and won a Junior All Ireland medal in 1998, when Tipp beat Offaly in the All Ireland Final, as well as a Munster Minor Football medal in 1995. In an earlier generation he would have been a top class dual inter county player and was a big loss to Tipperary football teams, because of his hurling commitments.
ur full of crap maybe not on ormond but corc waz a f**king ledgend hiz whole career ur a fool if u think diff or u juzt dont watch hurling i never mizz a match corc waz our rock
Ormonde's head was never in it. Hurling was never really top priority with him and you couldn't really blame him. He quit when he went decided to be a vet, and to go back and do the leaving. He was still hurling away with Loughmore, but had no intentions at that point of ever being back with Tipp. Even during his UCD days he couldn't nail down a spot of his own on the team.

He was a good hurler. He was a makeshift corner-back though, don't forget that. Nicky English saw something in him that might work as a CB and he was right. But I always reckoned he played above himself that year and the next. I certainly wouldn't agree that he was in any way 'top-class'. Very good when at his best, yes, but never top-class.

Corcoran was another over-achiever. He never blossomed into the player he promised to be back in his college days. He was an absolutely dire man-marker but tended to cover himself by his ability to read games and situations during games. I'd say the man most disappointed about Eamonn Corcoran's announcement is Dan Shanahan. Corcoran made a star out of Dan who was smart enough to stand shoulder to shoulder with him anytime they met. Corcoran couldn't handle that.

bottlethrower7 · February 13, 2009, 04:41:37 PM

Quote from: THE BLUE AND GOLD on February 12, 2009, 10:44:18 PM
Quote from: bottlethrower7 on January 15, 2009, 03:59:12 PM
Quote from: Onlooker on January 13, 2009, 04:34:03 PM
Two fine players who gave great service to Tipperary. It will be difficult to replace Corcoran at wing back, even if he lost a bit of pace over the last year or two. Paul Ormond was unlucky with injuries and would certainly have played in many more Championship matches if he had stayed injury free. He was also a very fine footballer and won a Junior All Ireland medal in 1998, when Tipp beat Offaly in the All Ireland Final, as well as a Munster Minor Football medal in 1995. In an earlier generation he would have been a top class dual inter county player and was a big loss to Tipperary football teams, because of his hurling commitments.
ur full of crap maybe not on ormond but corc waz a f**king ledgend hiz whole career ur a fool if u think diff or u juzt dont watch hurling i never mizz a match corc waz our rock
Ormonde's head was never in it. Hurling was never really top priority with him and you couldn't really blame him. He quit when he went decided to be a vet, and to go back and do the leaving. He was still hurling away with Loughmore, but had no intentions at that point of ever being back with Tipp. Even during his UCD days he couldn't nail down a spot of his own on the team.

He was a good hurler. He was a makeshift corner-back though, don't forget that. Nicky English saw something in him that might work as a CB and he was right. But I always reckoned he played above himself that year and the next. I certainly wouldn't agree that he was in any way 'top-class'. Very good when at his best, yes, but never top-class.

Corcoran was another over-achiever. He never blossomed into the player he promised to be back in his college days. He was an absolutely dire man-marker but tended to cover himself by his ability to read games and situations during games. I'd say the man most disappointed about Eamonn Corcoran's announcement is Dan Shanahan. Corcoran made a star out of Dan who was smart enough to stand shoulder to shoulder with him anytime they met. Corcoran couldn't handle that.

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bottlethrower7 · February 13, 2009, 04:45:34 PM

Quote from: Ash Smoker on January 25, 2009, 05:39:07 PM
A bit harsh on Corcoran re: Shanahan there BT.
For a good few years Shanahan never did much against Corcoran.
The only time I remember him cleaning Corcoran was in 2006 in Croke Park.
Remember Shanahan also got a load of goals against a highly rated Cork team too.

However last year it was clear that Eamonn didn't have the legs for inter county hurling any more.
He probably picked the right time to go.

I don't think its harsh. They locked horns many times and Dan continually came out on top. I can recall one particular game in Cork that Dan scored 2 goals off him, both from his fielding high balls over Corcoran. I can't recall the year. One of the goals came from his fielding a sideline.

He didn't have it in the air, full-stop. His reading of the game was his strength. No shame there. David and Eamonn Kennedy were both average enough hurlers who enjoyed successful inter-county careers due to having a similar strength. Corcoran was twice the hurler of either of those though. In the '02 semi Nicky put Corcoran in at number 6 to mark Shefflin. That was a serious miscalculation on English' part and ultimately cost Tipp that game.

A great servant of Tipp hurling. A superb reader of the game. A fantastic hurler. Just not a great back.