Ulster Senior football championship 2024

[square_ball]

Tyrone conceded 3 bad goals today though.

Cue further chat this week about what Jim has up his sleeve for Tyrone.

Tyrone up against it from going to extra time today and the turnaround to next Sunday. If Patton is injured for Donegal it will be a blow for them.

[cavanmaniac]

Thought the ref did OK until extra time when he seemed to give Tyrone frees for things he'd subsequently ignore when the same thing happened a Cavan player.

Hell of an effort by our boys. A shame they had to indulge in "tactics" and nauseatingly shite football until the game seemed gone and they could actually try a leg - and then look what happened.

All is not lost. Could still be a decent season for Cavan as long as the Sam Maguire groups don't turn into a rerun of an ulster sfc.

[J70]

Tyrone and Donegal an interesting one, Donegal will surely not allow the Canavans and McCurry freedom of the park like Cavan did. And Donegal have better forwards than Cavan. Full credit to Cavan for dragging themselves back into that.

Can't see Tyrone getting near Donegal especially given extra time today.

Donegal will be shown to be not that great. They got 3 goals from a smart tactical move on kick outs. I don't think that will happen. I think Armagh would beat them should they meet in the final

Haven't seen anyone suggest we're "great". Why would they?

Ulster title is wide open.

Personally, I've no idea what to expect next week beyond the fact that I expect us to give Tyrone a good rattle, unlike the facile stroll we allowed them last year.

[AustinPowers]

Well just home and haven't watched anything back on TV yet. I thought in extra time we had a free or two we should've got but didn't but the overcarrying by o rourke was correct call. Wasn't his fault though as he was isolated and got no help. From a Cavan perspective we have to look at how we set up in 1st half, playing that cagey shite that Tyrone love. Gave them an 8 point lead and then started to play. We need to go for it from the start. A proud effort from the lads that just came up short

Very disappointed that Coldrick on I think 3 occasions did not follow the rules and ask "injured" Tyrone players to go to the line. No excuse for that.

Crazy that Tyrone are expected to play donegal in 7 days.

Yep. The calendar is deliberately screwed.

The league finals are  Being devalued, the provincial championship is being devalued (more than it was before ) . The only thing  left    to do is bring a  provincial final to Paris , Texas or Madagascar. Then  they can really pull the plug.

[downtothecore]

So Armagh and Donegal in the final, ffs I have tickets for Armagh against Down, is that cancelled?

No but Armagh are expected to have no problems in this fixture....

[Itchy]

Tyrone and Donegal an interesting one, Donegal will surely not allow the Canavans and McCurry freedom of the park like Cavan did. And Donegal have better forwards than Cavan. Full credit to Cavan for dragging themselves back into that.

Can't see Tyrone getting near Donegal especially given extra time today.

Donegal will be shown to be not that great. They got 3 goals from a smart tactical move on kick outs. I don't think that will happen. I think Armagh would beat them should they meet in the final

Haven't seen anyone suggest we're "great". Why would they?

Ulster title is wide open.

Personally, I've no idea what to expect next week beyond the fact that I expect us to give Tyrone a good rattle, unlike the facile stroll we allowed them last year.

If you read the post I was responding to you'll get it.

[onefineday]

So no one knows the rules around adding time?

I genuinely have no idea. If you extra time is 10 minutes a half does that mean that when 2 mins extra time is played 7 would have been played had it been a 35 minute half?

So when are we going to get our answer MR2?

[onefineday]

How the hell is it a free out when 3 players are kneeing on you. Goldrick is a complete balloon

I'd go get your eyesight checked if I were you. The ref won it for you

He gave Cavan more time than they should have got at the end for them to try and get an equaliser.

He didn't even play enough time to cover the wasting at the last Morgan free lad...

From  when the free  was awarded to Morgan kicking  it  was roughly a minute. Ref played  about 45 seconds  over the 2 minutes , so  technically 15 seconds short.

But aren't players  allowed the 15 seconds to kick a free? So that evens it out

If the ref thought Morgan took too long then he would've cancelled the free, not added on 20 seconds at the end.

Refs rarely blow  for frees taking too long , especially  with goalkeepers coming  all the way up the field.

Countdown  clock like the ladies game , is badly badly needed

Put it in your submission to the playing rules review group. There's a 100 word free text bit at the end. Introduce a shot clock for frees or countdown clock as in ladies football

[Milltown Row2]

So no one knows the rules around adding time?

I genuinely have no idea. If you extra time is 10 minutes a half does that mean that when 2 mins extra time is played 7 would have been played had it been a 35 minute half?

So when are we going to get our answer MR2?

But but but everyone knows the answer sure

Adding minutes for injuries and substitutes

If a keeper is time wasting, you can't officially add that on, if someone is time wasting over a free that's not added either, they can be booked and the free is reversed to a hop ball for frees, again this wastes even more time..

15 seconds is generally a rule as you have that for the likes of Marks, but very rarely will ref's blow up keepers

I personally hate time wasters and stop my watch regardless. But hey that's me

[Tones]

So Armagh and Donegal in the final, ffs I have tickets for Armagh against Down, is that cancelled?

No but Armagh are expected to have no problems in this fixture....

Akin to Monaghan v Cavan, Derry v Donegal, Cavan v Tyrone  pretty sure 3 teams there were meant to have no problems in their respective games!

[imtommygunn]

It's a banana skin for Armagh. They *should* be too good but maybe Down are better than we think.

[Armagh18]

So Armagh and Donegal in the final, ffs I have tickets for Armagh against Down, is that cancelled?

No but Armagh are expected to have no problems in this fixture....

Akin to Monaghan v Cavan, Derry v Donegal, Cavan v Tyrone  pretty sure 3 teams there were meant to have no problems in their respective games!

I'd have only had those 3 as slight favourites tbh. Armagh massive favourites

[Ethan Tremblay]

As mentioned already, what a weekend of football that was. 

Derry/Donegal was an intense a game as you will see. 
Thought the two in the middle for Derry were quiet all day and either of them being subdued can only mean bad things for Derry.  A month off to process and learn, so you would think there will be a response to that. 

Donegal were brilliant and got everything spot on tactically.  A high intense gameplan and Derry had no answers.  The only issue is, they only have a week to do their homework on Tyrone and whether they can match that intensity with the quick turnaround remains to be seen. 

Full credit to Cavan, a classic case of throwing the shackles off and going at it nearly got them there.  Tyrone had enough experience to get them over the line.  Again tired bodies will count against them against Donegal.  Hard to see them winning giving how both teams played. 

[omagh_gael]

Interesting that some people have referred to Tyrone's experience getting them over the line. We had 9, (yes 9!) Senior championship debutants yesterday. I think it was our lack of experience that has led to us almost getting caught. This game will improve our team in the long run. Hard to know if our individual brilliance (Darragh Canavan was unreal again) will be enough to get over a, clearly, more organised and structured Donegal team. It'll be a great game nonetheless.

[tbrick18]

As mentioned already, what a weekend of football that was. 

Derry/Donegal was an intense a game as you will see. 
Thought the two in the middle for Derry were quiet all day and either of them being subdued can only mean bad things for Derry.  A month off to process and learn, so you would think there will be a response to that. 

Donegal were brilliant and got everything spot on tactically.  A high intense gameplan and Derry had no answers.  The only issue is, they only have a week to do their homework on Tyrone and whether they can match that intensity with the quick turnaround remains to be seen. 

Full credit to Cavan, a classic case of throwing the shackles off and going at it nearly got them there.  Tyrone had enough experience to get them over the line.  Again tired bodies will count against them against Donegal.  Hard to see them winning giving how both teams played. 

I think you're giving Derry too much credit there. Donegal bossed the game in every position from the first minute to the last. It was a 6 point hammering.
Derry were very flat, tactically outthought and seemed to be playing like we might have done 3/4 years ago. But a lot of that was down to how good Donegal were.

Tyrone/Cavan are pretty much on a par I believe.
If Donegal play as well again next weekend, they'll have not trouble with Tyrone, the question is can they motivate themselves to that level again?

I'd expect Armagh to beat Down, but it won't be the facile victory some are predicting. Down will compete physically, if they can get their scoring boots on they could rattle Armagh.

Based on the weekends games, Donegal are best placed to win Ulster imo.

Big question for Derry is was this just a blip with eye off the ball? Or have the wheels fallen off under Harte after the high of winning the league.