Antrim, the way forward

Started by Milltown Row2, October 30, 2015, 09:53:31 AM

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Antrim Coaster

And we're still waiting on the dual carriageway / motorway from Mid Ulster to Belfast  :(

AQMP

Did the County Board hand over Casement to the Ulster Council as Declan Bogue stated in the interview??

paddyjohn

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2018, 11:48:07 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 23, 2018, 11:32:17 AM
Quote from: Spike on August 23, 2018, 09:47:04 AM
If someone is serious about reopening casement with limited opening terrace sections then it needs a full survey, health and safety review, clean and, which is the longest part, a brand new pitch laid, grew and maintained. a Quick once over with the mower isn't going to do it.

Feasibility isn't the word here - Antrim board realise its cheaper to have casement closed and use clubs grounds than it is to maintain and insure a stadium the size of casement.

Like it or loathe it, they'd be better picking a club ground to put money into to get up to a realistic capacity (it would be clubs responsibility to look after it), or put their money into a stand at Dunsilly. Poor attendances at antrim's poor county products means poor revenues

Agree, Tir Na og or Creggan. Central venue. Even St Endas.

Why not two? one up the Glens for the hurlers and one in Belfast/SW for the footballing crowd?

If 2 suits then 2 it is.

cfclg

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 23, 2018, 11:48:07 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 23, 2018, 11:32:17 AM
Quote from: Spike on August 23, 2018, 09:47:04 AM
If someone is serious about reopening casement with limited opening terrace sections then it needs a full survey, health and safety review, clean and, which is the longest part, a brand new pitch laid, grew and maintained. a Quick once over with the mower isn't going to do it.

Feasibility isn't the word here - Antrim board realise its cheaper to have casement closed and use clubs grounds than it is to maintain and insure a stadium the size of casement.

Like it or loathe it, they'd be better picking a club ground to put money into to get up to a realistic capacity (it would be clubs responsibility to look after it), or put their money into a stand at Dunsilly. Poor attendances at antrim's poor county products means poor revenues

Agree, Tir Na og or Creggan. Central venue. Even St Endas.

Why not two? one up the Glens for the hurlers and one in Belfast/SW for the footballing crowd?

I think one central location is the way forward. Living in Belfast I would like to watch all the NHL games but yes ultimately that drive upto ballycastle etc does put me off (some will argue I'm not a diehard fan and that's fair enough). Likewise there are probably people in the glens with an interest in the football, driving to Belfast puts them off.

The diehard hurling/football fanatics will go anywhere, that's not the audience I'm thinking of. I would like to see more casual supporters of both codes come out and support our teams. Central location in Tir na nog/Creggan is crucial.

But like another poster highlighted, the location won't change our fortunes on the pitch but it will at least give us a base, a set of foundations to build a fortress for visiting teams to be wary of.

Antrim Coaster

Quote from: AQMP on August 23, 2018, 12:13:36 PM
Did the County Board hand over Casement to the Ulster Council as Declan Bogue stated in the interview??

No. That did not happen and Casement will never be handed over to the Ulster Council.

johnnycool

Quote from: Antrim Coaster on August 23, 2018, 12:55:36 PM
Quote from: AQMP on August 23, 2018, 12:13:36 PM
Did the County Board hand over Casement to the Ulster Council as Declan Bogue stated in the interview??

No. That did not happen and Casement will never be handed over to the Ulster Council.

One of the trustees will be the Ulster Secretary, another will be the Antrim secretary paid by the Ulster Council with the deeds sitting in Armagh or Croke Park so that's a mute point.

Belfast GAA man

Does anyone think Antrim have asked the Ulster council or Croke for funding to upgrade a club ground as a temporary county home? I very much doubt it

paddyjohn

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 23, 2018, 07:04:06 PM
Does anyone think Antrim have asked the Ulster council or Croke for funding to upgrade a club ground as a temporary county home? I very much doubt it

Was there not an artical about Collie Donnelly doing that with Corrigan?

Belfast GAA man

Quote from: paddyjohn on August 23, 2018, 09:15:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 23, 2018, 07:04:06 PM
Does anyone think Antrim have asked the Ulster council or Croke for funding to upgrade a club ground as a temporary county home? I very much doubt it

Was there not an artical about Collie Donnelly doing that with Corrigan?
How long ago was that? as time passes the need is becoming more and more urgent

paddyjohn

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 24, 2018, 09:42:28 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on August 23, 2018, 09:15:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 23, 2018, 07:04:06 PM
Does anyone think Antrim have asked the Ulster council or Croke for funding to upgrade a club ground as a temporary county home? I very much doubt it

Was there not an artical about Collie Donnelly doing that with Corrigan?
How long ago was that? as time passes the need is becoming more and more urgent

I cant remember tbh. I remember the discussion on here about it.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: paddyjohn on August 23, 2018, 09:15:38 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on August 23, 2018, 07:04:06 PM
Does anyone think Antrim have asked the Ulster council or Croke for funding to upgrade a club ground as a temporary county home? I very much doubt it

Was there not an artical about Collie Donnelly doing that with Corrigan?
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2017/04/07/news/headline-990333/

ANTRIM chairman Collie Donnelly says the county board can't wait on Casement Park being built and that a meagre upgrade of Corrigan Park is essential in the interim period.

In a candid interview, the St John's man lamented the fact that the county's elite teams don't have a home or a ground that has a covered stand.

Antrim's senior footballers and hurlers have played the vast majority of their games at Corrigan Park in west Belfast this year.

Following the closure of Casement Park, the county's footballers have had to play all their Ulster Championship games on the road.

The hurlers, meanwhile, have hosted Championship games at Ballycastle, Dunloy and Loughgiel in recent seasons.

"The biggest task is being without Casement Park," Donnelly acknowledged.




"If you don't have a home, you don't have a base for the players it's difficult.

"We've obviously got Dunsilly and that's a plus, but there's still a bit of work to be done there.

"People think we've got this big training centre but we've four changing rooms and two pitches up there."

Donnelly revealed the county board would lobby Central Council and the Ulster Council to help fund a 500-seater covered stand at Corrigan Park.

"I think we've made people feel welcome at Corrigan Park this year and we can't do much more," he said.

"Again, we're talking to Central Council and the Ulster Council to try to get some money to get a small covered stand in Corrigan because we feel that's only right for the patrons of Antrim.

"We don't have a covered ground in the whole of the county. It's alright talking about Casement Park – and even if it's built in 2019 – we're going to need somewhere to play our lesser matches whether it'll be our minor teams or whatever.

"Hopefully we can find money from somewhere to get a 500 or 600-strong covered stand at Corrigan. That would be the hope."

Donnelly was part of the Saffron Vision group that swept to power in late 2015.

While acknowledging there is "no quick fix" in Antrim, the former county hurler has been heartened by the fundraising efforts of Saffron Business Forum who have signed up almost 80 businesses.

"Last Friday morning at seven o'clock we had a Saffron Business Forum – the fundraising group – and we'd 80 people in the room and about 60 companies.

"People are genuinely interested if we can have the patience to stick with it and get it right on the field."

Last weekend was one of the most crucial for Antrim's senior hurlers and footballers.

The hurlers managed to gain promotion back to Division 1B while the footballers suffered relegation with the last kick of the game against Longford at Corrigan Park.

"You can have all the fundraisers and meetings in the world but your senior teams are your shop window and if we get things right on the field a lot of the other problems fade into the background," insisted Donnelly.

"I don't know if our players realise that because there can be a bit of disconnect. When the senior teams are doing well it makes our job an awful lot easier to go to sponsors."

"The hurling result was a great fillip for the people involved. Next year we'll be looking forward to having two or three of the bigger counties coming to Antrim to play us."

Donnelly added: "I was pleased for the management team as well; they quietly went about their business and we couldn't have asked much more from them.

"Last Sunday was as a step back [for the footballers]. After getting promoted last year and to go back down is hard to take.

"But I suppose you have to look at the whole weekend. A lot of people are trying hard but it's such a big task. We are a dual county with probably too many clubs.

"In Belfast, I think there are some clubs just surviving. If you mention amalgamation, people think you're talking about changing your religion."

Belfast GAA man

Time to ask again then - any word on who wants to take over at county board level?

Belfast GAA man

Any word on the start of Gaelfast?

Spike

Why Corrigan though?

Because Collie has a fondness for the place? He needs to grow a set and get Dunsilly set up properly - if its not adequate then its due to his leadership failing.

Rapidly approaching White Elephant status

Antrim Coaster