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[Main Street]

In a pull no punches article Chris Sutton paints a dire straights crisis for Celtic
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-face-unthinkable-dominic-mckay-23574893

Chris' points are
Odds are almost certain that Edouard and Ajer will be sold on, with the huge negative that both players are going into the last year of their contract.  Brown hitting 36.  3 loaners will return to their mother ship . Not up to it are Barkos & Klimalo; Griffith & Ajeti cant get fit enough,  unknowns are Soro & Bayo.
Head of the recruitment department  Nick Hammond a big failure so far

Lawwell whose decision making this season has been all over the shop, is at the helm until July and should NOT be the one who appoints the next manager for the incumbent to inherit.
McKay is tied to Scotland Rugby until July1st

Desmond should step in forcibly.
McKay should be the man in place when the new manager is appointed but that can't wait until July 1. It's unthinkable because Celtic have Champions League qualifiers later that month.
Chris wants Celtic/Desmond to get McKay in and a new manager brought in now to rebuild the team, no time left to squander, months have already been squandered.

[Angelo]

The new manager needs to be in place by May along with a DOF if they are going down that route.

We need about 5/6 first team quality players minimum. If Ajer, Edourd and Chrsite are off then we need to spending £60m on first team players in the next transfer window.

I'd make a point of losing Ajer and Edouard on a free than selling them off for derisory fees - anything under £8m for Ajer and anything under £20m for Edouard is derisory for me. But given the culture of the club we will take whatever we can for them.

What would Arsenal demand for Tierney now do you think? £70-80m? We couldn't wait to get him out the door about 18 months ago for £25m.

It's just embarrassing the greed and incompetence that dominates Celtic at board level.

[JimStynes]

The new manager needs to be in place by May along with a DOF if they are going down that route.

We need about 5/6 first team quality players minimum. If Ajer, Edourd and Chrsite are off then we need to spending £60m on first team players in the next transfer window.

I'd make a point of losing Ajer and Edouard on a free than selling them off for derisory fees - anything under £8m for Ajer and anything under £20m for Edouard is derisory for me. But given the culture of the club we will take whatever we can for them.

What would Arsenal demand for Tierney now do you think? £70-80m? We couldn't wait to get him out the door about 18 months ago for £25m.

It's just embarrassing the greed and incompetence that dominates Celtic at board level.

Celtic will simply not be able to sell players for 70 or 80 million unless they are the top scorer at a world cup for their country. The league isn't good enough for people to take a gamble on someone. Haaland was sold from Salzburg for 20million. He would go for about 200million now. It is a common thing in all the smaller leagues.

[JimStynes]

In a pull no punches article Chris Sutton paints a dire straights crisis for Celtic
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-face-unthinkable-dominic-mckay-23574893

Chris' points are
Odds are almost certain that Edouard and Ajer will be sold on, with the huge negative that both players are going into the last year of their contract.  Brown hitting 36.  3 loaners will return to their mother ship . Not up to it are Barkos & Klimalo; Griffith & Ajeti cant get fit enough,  unknowns are Soro & Bayo.
Head of the recruitment department  Nick Hammond a big failure so far

Lawwell whose decision making this season has been all over the shop, is at the helm until July and should NOT be the one who appoints the next manager for the incumbent to inherit.
McKay is tied to Scotland Rugby until July1st

Desmond should step in forcibly.
McKay should be the man in place when the new manager is appointed but that can't wait until July 1. It's unthinkable because Celtic have Champions League qualifiers later that month.
Chris wants Celtic/Desmond to get McKay in and a new manager brought in now to rebuild the team, no time left to squander, months have already been squandered.

Can't argue with any of that

[screenexile]

On what planet is Tierney worth 70/80m. Deluded!

Van Dijk was £75m

[Angelo]

The new manager needs to be in place by May along with a DOF if they are going down that route.

We need about 5/6 first team quality players minimum. If Ajer, Edourd and Chrsite are off then we need to spending £60m on first team players in the next transfer window.

I'd make a point of losing Ajer and Edouard on a free than selling them off for derisory fees - anything under £8m for Ajer and anything under £20m for Edouard is derisory for me. But given the culture of the club we will take whatever we can for them.

What would Arsenal demand for Tierney now do you think? £70-80m? We couldn't wait to get him out the door about 18 months ago for £25m.

It's just embarrassing the greed and incompetence that dominates Celtic at board level.

Celtic will simply not be able to sell players for 70 or 80 million unless they are the top scorer at a world cup for their country. The league isn't good enough for people to take a gamble on someone. Haaland was sold from Salzburg for 20million. He would go for about 200million now. It is a common thing in all the smaller leagues.

Tierney signed a six year deal. He was not going to force through a move.

So basically it comes down to Celtic keeping him until someone pays what he is worth. That is how it works.

Look across the other side of the city - Morelos and Kent. If they were Celtic players, you can bet your bottom dollar they would have been gone for what Rangers were offered for them this summer.

Celtic might not be able to sell a player for £70-80m but they could have got a damn sight more than they got for him. He should not have left for a penny less than £40m.

[Angelo]

On what planet is Tierney worth 70/80m. Deluded!

Van Dijk was £75m

Another deluded EPL die hard.

Ben Chilwell went for £65m this summer and he's half the player Tierney is and a year older.

[sid waddell]

On what planet is Tierney worth 70/80m. Deluded!

Angelo is Italian

Maybe he's thinking in Lira?

[JimStynes]

The new manager needs to be in place by May along with a DOF if they are going down that route.

We need about 5/6 first team quality players minimum. If Ajer, Edourd and Chrsite are off then we need to spending £60m on first team players in the next transfer window.

I'd make a point of losing Ajer and Edouard on a free than selling them off for derisory fees - anything under £8m for Ajer and anything under £20m for Edouard is derisory for me. But given the culture of the club we will take whatever we can for them.

What would Arsenal demand for Tierney now do you think? £70-80m? We couldn't wait to get him out the door about 18 months ago for £25m.

It's just embarrassing the greed and incompetence that dominates Celtic at board level.

Celtic will simply not be able to sell players for 70 or 80 million unless they are the top scorer at a world cup for their country. The league isn't good enough for people to take a gamble on someone. Haaland was sold from Salzburg for 20million. He would go for about 200million now. It is a common thing in all the smaller leagues.

Tierney signed a six year deal. He was not going to force through a move.

So basically it comes down to Celtic keeping him until someone pays what he is worth. That is how it works.

Look across the other side of the city - Morelos and Kent. If they were Celtic players, you can bet your bottom dollar they would have been gone for what Rangers were offered for them this summer.

Celtic might not be able to sell a player for £70-80m but they could have got a damn sight more than they got for him. He should not have left for a penny less than £40m.

They wouldn't have paid Celtic 40m. They'd have moved onto someone else from a better league or a Real Madrid reject. Celtic could have held tight and not let him move for less than 40 million but the risk not getting a buyer then. That 22 million in the bank you're talking about might not have been 22million. At the time £25m was a decent deal for KT. Yes I would have liked more but I'm not sure they'd have paid it for a left back in the Scottish league.

[Angelo]

The new manager needs to be in place by May along with a DOF if they are going down that route.

We need about 5/6 first team quality players minimum. If Ajer, Edourd and Chrsite are off then we need to spending £60m on first team players in the next transfer window.

I'd make a point of losing Ajer and Edouard on a free than selling them off for derisory fees - anything under £8m for Ajer and anything under £20m for Edouard is derisory for me. But given the culture of the club we will take whatever we can for them.

What would Arsenal demand for Tierney now do you think? £70-80m? We couldn't wait to get him out the door about 18 months ago for £25m.

It's just embarrassing the greed and incompetence that dominates Celtic at board level.

Celtic will simply not be able to sell players for 70 or 80 million unless they are the top scorer at a world cup for their country. The league isn't good enough for people to take a gamble on someone. Haaland was sold from Salzburg for 20million. He would go for about 200million now. It is a common thing in all the smaller leagues.

Tierney signed a six year deal. He was not going to force through a move.

So basically it comes down to Celtic keeping him until someone pays what he is worth. That is how it works.

Look across the other side of the city - Morelos and Kent. If they were Celtic players, you can bet your bottom dollar they would have been gone for what Rangers were offered for them this summer.

Celtic might not be able to sell a player for £70-80m but they could have got a damn sight more than they got for him. He should not have left for a penny less than £40m.

They wouldn't have paid Celtic 40m. They'd have moved onto someone else from a better league or a Real Madrid reject. Celtic could have held tight and not let him move for less than 40 million but the risk not getting a buyer then. That 22 million in the bank you're talking about might not have been 22million. At the time £25m was a decent deal for KT. Yes I would have liked more but I'm not sure they'd have paid it for a left back in the Scottish league.

Of course they wouldn't have paid £25m for them because Celtic are a soft touch in the transfer market. They want to sell quick and easy. On the other side of the city, if Tierney was a Rangers players - he would either have gone for £40m or he'd still be a Rangers player.

Do you think Arsenal would entertain a bid of any less than £70m for Tierney right now? If you went onto any Arsenal forum and asked them who their best player is and who their favourite player is right now, I can confidently say it's Kieran Tierney.

£25m was an insult at the time. Celtic got ripped off because they were eager to see.

How much different would things be now if we kept on to Tierney do you think? I'd say huge. Just like they'd be way better if we pushed the boat out on Toney this summer and if we didn't fanny about with John McGinn. There's a correlation between all these failures. The same correlation that has three important first team players entering the final year of their contracts next season. It's the biscuit tin mentality.

The huns are getting capital pumped into them by their owners, they are turning down big money bids for their best players and that's why the tables have turned.

[Main Street]

Wasn't Tierney injured when transferred to Arsenal  and he's  been plagued with injuries ever since?
Arsenal took a gamble on his physical fitness and he's turned out to be a mixed bag, oft injured but a class act when match fit.

[Angelo]

Wasn't Tierney injured when transferred to Arsenal  and he's  been plagued with injuries ever since?
Arsenal took a gamble on his physical fitness and he's turned out to be a mixed bag, oft injured but a class act when match fit.

He's played 50 games for Arsenal to date.

220 club career appearances at the age of 23.

8 consecutive seasons with a medal in his pocket.

Arsenal didn't take a gamble. £25m is modest for Arsenal. They got one of the best left backs in the world for an absolute snip in today's market.

[Main Street]

Wasn't Tierney injured when transferred to Arsenal  and he's  been plagued with injuries ever since?
Arsenal took a gamble on his physical fitness and he's turned out to be a mixed bag, oft injured but a class act when match fit.

He's played 50 games for Arsenal to date.

220 club career appearances at the age of 23.

8 consecutive seasons with a medal in his pocket.

Arsenal didn't take a gamble. £25m is modest for Arsenal. They got one of the best left backs in the world for an absolute snip in today's market.

He's started 33 league games for Arsenal  since season 2019/20,   that's 33 games out of 100+.
Thats a piss poor starting statistic for a superb left back.
Credit to Kieran to keep coming back and still improving his game.

[sid waddell]

Somewhere on the internet there's a Hull City fan ranting about Liverpool getting Andy Robertson for £8m rather than £80m

[Angelo]

Wasn't Tierney injured when transferred to Arsenal  and he's  been plagued with injuries ever since?
Arsenal took a gamble on his physical fitness and he's turned out to be a mixed bag, oft injured but a class act when match fit.

He's played 50 games for Arsenal to date.

220 club career appearances at the age of 23.

8 consecutive seasons with a medal in his pocket.

Arsenal didn't take a gamble. £25m is modest for Arsenal. They got one of the best left backs in the world for an absolute snip in today's market.

He's started 33 league games for Arsenal  since season 2019/20,   that's 33 games out of 100+.
Thats a piss poor starting statistic for a superb left back.
Credit to Kieran to keep coming back and still improving his game.

He's played 33 league games out of 64.

He had hip surgery to correct a long standing problem then dislocated his shoulder early on for Arsenal, since then he has been available regularly.