Quote from: ThereAndBackAgain on December 13, 2023, 01:53:26 PMQuote from: Keyser soze on December 13, 2023, 01:49:01 PMQuote from: ThereAndBackAgain on December 13, 2023, 01:35:18 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on December 13, 2023, 01:29:29 PMQuote from: ThereAndBackAgain on December 13, 2023, 01:04:51 PMTotally different. But you know that anywayQuote from: 5times5times on December 13, 2023, 12:53:18 PMQuote from: ThereAndBackAgain on December 13, 2023, 12:35:49 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on December 13, 2023, 12:33:05 PMQuote from: Keyser soze on December 13, 2023, 11:28:16 AMUkraine voted against a ceasefire in Gaza, the hyprocritical shower of scumbags, they can go f**k themselves from now on as far as I'm concerned.Yep. A f**king disgrace after the whole world rowed in behind them.
Can't you read? They didn't vote against it.
Did you row in behind Ukraine Armagh18, eh?
They abstained, which in my eyes equals voting against. Same as the Brits
Ireland was a member of the Axis during WW2 because they were weren't a member of the Allies.
Yes of course my statement is incorrect, a bit like saying an abstention is the same as a vote against at the UN. No one knows what pressure is being brought to bear on Ukraine. They are in a fight for their survival and their biggest ally has shown recent signs of wavering. But sure they should just take a moral stance and take it on the chin when the essential to their very survival flow of aid and weapons dries up.
They [rightly in my view] asked for, expected and accepted worldwide support for their resistance to an invasion by Russia.
They sought support for their stance in the UN criticising the invasion and used Russia's flagrant targetting of civilians and civilan infrastructure as a means of garnering sympathy and support for their cause.
Their gutless abstention the other night completely undermines that cause in my view. Using the targetting of civilians as means of raising support for your own cause but not showing an iota of empathy for an even greater war crime is despicable.
I am fairly certain that a large percentage of people will share that view and that there will be a massive decrease in support for the Ukrainian cause as result of this. And rightly so.
You say all this with the luxury of not having Russian missiles raining down on your head and having to rely on certain allies for your survival. But sure, according to you, more Ukrainian children should now die because of the political situation Ukraine finds itself in. You're an idealistic fool.
Yeah I am sort of foolish like that tbf. Chagrined now that you've pointed it out.
Silly old me, I Find myself liking people more when they vote against dropping high explosives on babies than when they don't.
Wish I was a bit more sensible and pragmatic like yourself, maybe when I grow up who knows.