Super 8s

Started by theticklemister, February 19, 2017, 10:55:16 PM

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Rossfan

So the hurley crowd can have their Semi Finals.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Syferus

Quote from: blewuporstuffed on July 24, 2018, 05:02:50 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 24, 2018, 02:02:53 PM
Another tweak needed for next year is a 2 week break before the semi-finals. One week turnaround before such a big game for any county seems a bit mad.

Plus I have no doubt that if Galway had a 2 week break before the semi-final they would 100% put out their best side against Monaghan but with only one week there is a definite possibility that certain players will be rotated in and out of the starting team. And if that happens Kerry will go mad but Galway as a team that have already qualified have to look after their own interests.
Why is the break this weekend and not after the group stage has been completed?

The whole thing is already being played off at a ridculous pace. Kildare would be playing their seventh game in eight weeks if there was more of this shïte at the weekend.

Rossfan

If they had got the finger out earlier and bet Carlow they wouldn't.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Rossfan

#1548
Now that the Quarter Finals Phases 1,2 and 3 are overy - thoughts? (" It's shite" - doesn't count😀)
Pluses - big games at Provincial venues,  Supporters can see their team at home in a Qtr Final, team has a chance to redeem itself if 1 bad game ( Ros excepted), extra excitement especially the last round, 
Minuses - Less winner take all games, what about the other 24 Counties? , Dublin getting 2 home games, dead rubbers.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

BennyCake

What about the other 24 counties? Pretty much sums it up. This is the new cash cow and the c'ship will now resemble this sort of thing, with the other 24 totally disregarded.

Super 8 benefits counties with big squads and big resources. And gives yet another chance to the big guns in case of a slip up.

It's disrespectful to fans expecting them to fork out for 4 games in 4 weeks (inc semi next week).


Esmarelda

Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 06:47:27 PM
What about the other 24 counties? Pretty much sums it up. This is the new cash cow and the c'ship will now resemble this sort of thing, with the other 24 totally disregarded.

Super 8 benefits counties with big squads and big resources. And gives yet another chance to the big guns in case of a slip up.

It's disrespectful to fans expecting them to fork out for 4 games in 4 weeks (inc semi next week).
The other 24's position is unchanged from last year; exited at the stage prior to the quarter finals or earlier.

Jayop

Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 06:47:27 PM
What about the other 24 counties? Pretty much sums it up. This is the new cash cow and the c'ship will now resemble this sort of thing, with the other 24 totally disregarded.

Super 8 benefits counties with big squads and big resources. And gives yet another chance to the big guns in case of a slip up.

It's disrespectful to fans expecting them to fork out for 4 games in 4 weeks (inc semi next week).

And yet this is the first time in how long that one of Mayo or Kerry haven't made the semi finals.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Jayop on August 06, 2018, 08:30:12 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 06, 2018, 06:47:27 PM
What about the other 24 counties? Pretty much sums it up. This is the new cash cow and the c'ship will now resemble this sort of thing, with the other 24 totally disregarded.

Super 8 benefits counties with big squads and big resources. And gives yet another chance to the big guns in case of a slip up.

It's disrespectful to fans expecting them to fork out for 4 games in 4 weeks (inc semi next week).

And yet this is the first time in how long that one of Mayo or Kerry haven't made the semi finals.
2010 for both and I don't think the new format is the reason why both haven't reached the semi finals more to do with the fact that both are in transition.

Jayop

Yeah but if Bennys assertion was correct then the super 8 format would have afforded them a slip up.

BennyCake

Quote from: Jayop on August 06, 2018, 08:48:19 PM
Yeah but if Bennys assertion was correct then the super 8 format would have afforded them a slip up.

Transition yes.  Kerry waltz through Munster anyway, yet still could've got through with 2 slip ups in the Super 8.

seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2018, 06:39:11 PM
Now that the Quarter Finals Phases 1,2 and 3 are overy - thoughts? (" It's shite" - doesn't count😀)
Pluses - big games at Provincial venues,  Supporters can see their team at home in a Qtr Final, team has a chance to redeem itself if 1 bad game ( Ros excepted), extra excitement especially the last round, 
Minuses - Less winner take all games, what about the other 24 Counties? , Dublin getting 2 home games, dead rubbers.
Minus : There aren't 8 top teams so the format is unfair/ demoralising to at least 2 , timing is too compressed, doesn't address the gap between top and the rest.

Plus : tactically defeating Kerry is possible,  makes a change from one sided quarter finals
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

From the Bunker

12 games where 4 would have sufficed.

Farrandeelin

Minus: counties without big squads could pick up injuries. Dead rubber between Dublin/Ros in Croke Park. Not straight knockout. Counties like Ros this yr embarrassed 3 times instead of once last year.

Plus: more money for clubs, with all the extra revenue that goes with it.
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Is this better than what we had before? I would say yes. Every county regardless if they had a handy trip through their province or qualifier route is tested. No more handy AISF's for Kerry for example.
Could it be improved? Definitely. Less games in Croke Park, perhaps having them all in Neutral county grounds? Perhaps another weeks break between this stage and AISF stage.
Dubs definitely need to be on the road more.

A good first effort.

Esmarelda

I think I read somewhere that Michael Murphy was happy to be playing every week rather than sitting around waiting for games.

Plus, don't the club games get played earlier this way and as we all know, that's the most important thing.