Tyrone v Kerry - All-Ireland SF 2021

Started by RedHand88, July 31, 2021, 05:56:14 PM

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Who will win?

Tyrone by 1-3
Tyrone by 4+
Kerry by 1-3
Kerry by 4+

imtommygunn

It is about money let's be honest here.

thewobbler

Quote from: imtommygunn on August 15, 2021, 02:26:52 PM
It is about money let's be honest here.
Do you really think the GAA makes anything from a 24k attendance ?

BennyCake

Quote from: thewobbler on August 15, 2021, 02:28:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 15, 2021, 02:26:52 PM
It is about money let's be honest here.
Do you really think the GAA makes anything from a 24k attendance ?

24,000 x €50 = €1.2m

Nanderson

Quote from: BennyCake on August 15, 2021, 02:37:46 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 15, 2021, 02:28:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 15, 2021, 02:26:52 PM
It is about money let's be honest here.
Do you really think the GAA makes anything from a 24k attendance ?

24,000 x €50 = €1.2m
I remember someone saying to me before it costs them a million to open croke park for the day through various maintenance and running costs. dont know how accurate it is

tyrone08

Quote from: Nanderson on August 15, 2021, 03:03:23 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 15, 2021, 02:37:46 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 15, 2021, 02:28:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 15, 2021, 02:26:52 PM
It is about money let's be honest here.
Do you really think the GAA makes anything from a 24k attendance ?

24,000 x €50 = €1.2m
I remember someone saying to me before it costs them a million to open croke park for the day through various maintenance and running costs. dont know how accurate it is

If that's true then 200k isn't to be sneezed at. Would be interesting to know how much it actually does cost.

yellowcard

Quote from: omagh_gael on August 15, 2021, 01:29:48 PM
If the GAA extend until the weekend of 28th/29th that will be after the hurling final with 40,000 in attendance. An increased attendance at Tyr v Ker at 40,000 will pull in circa 1.5-2 million euro. Bound to be very, very tempting from a financial perspective.

I doubt if there would be anywhere near 40k attendance at that match. Kerry fans won't travel and it's not that appealing of a fixture from a neutral viewpoint.

yellowcard

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 15, 2021, 04:18:35 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 15, 2021, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 15, 2021, 01:29:48 PM
If the GAA extend until the weekend of 28th/29th that will be after the hurling final with 40,000 in attendance. An increased attendance at Tyr v Ker at 40,000 will pull in circa 1.5-2 million euro. Bound to be very, very tempting from a financial perspective.

I doubt if there would be anywhere near 40k attendance at that match. Kerry fans won't travel and it's not that appealing of a fixture from a neutral viewpoint.
There were only 34000 at the same fixture 2 years ago.

And that was pre Covid and the teams on paper were much more evenly matched than they appear this year. You would have to think there will be less in attendance this time.

BennyCake

Quote from: Nanderson on August 15, 2021, 03:03:23 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 15, 2021, 02:37:46 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 15, 2021, 02:28:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 15, 2021, 02:26:52 PM
It is about money let's be honest here.
Do you really think the GAA makes anything from a 24k attendance ?

24,000 x €50 = €1.2m
I remember someone saying to me before it costs them a million to open croke park for the day through various maintenance and running costs. dont know how accurate it is

So that's roughly say 50,000 at €20 a ticket or 25,000 at €40, just to break even? How often does Croke Park get that sort of crowd? Maybe 2 Leinster finals, 4 semis and 2 AIs a year? Frig me, and they say Casement will be a white elephant!

RedHand88

Quote from: Nanderson on August 15, 2021, 03:03:23 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 15, 2021, 02:37:46 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 15, 2021, 02:28:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 15, 2021, 02:26:52 PM
It is about money let's be honest here.
Do you really think the GAA makes anything from a 24k attendance ?

24,000 x €50 = €1.2m
I remember someone saying to me before it costs them a million to open croke park for the day through various maintenance and running costs. dont know how accurate it is

I think it costs €12k a day even when it's not being used.

joemamas

Quote from: GJL on August 14, 2021, 11:02:06 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 14, 2021, 10:51:24 PM
Reality is that the GAA will give Tyrone an extra week.
Does anyone think that a team will get a walkover in all-Ireland semi-final, because the GAA would not give an extra week to a team impacted by covid.
They should just announce it tomorrow, if the all Ireland has still to be on sept 4th, so be it,
But that will also be pushed back a week.
One of the very few sensible posts on here today.

By all accounts, it is now pretty obvious that Tyrone will get an extra week, big Q
when will the All-Ireland be, Saturday 4th, Sunday 5th or Saturday 11th.

Farrandeelin

Quote from: joemamas on August 15, 2021, 05:31:00 PM
Quote from: GJL on August 14, 2021, 11:02:06 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 14, 2021, 10:51:24 PM
Reality is that the GAA will give Tyrone an extra week.
Does anyone think that a team will get a walkover in all-Ireland semi-final, because the GAA would not give an extra week to a team impacted by covid.
They should just announce it tomorrow, if the all Ireland has still to be on sept 4th, so be it,
But that will also be pushed back a week.
One of the very few sensible posts on here today.

By all accounts, it is now pretty obvious that Tyrone will get an extra week, big Q
when will the All-Ireland be, Saturday 4th, Sunday 5th or Saturday 11th.

What day is the ladies final on?
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nrico2006

Quote from: yellowcard on August 15, 2021, 04:28:53 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 15, 2021, 04:18:35 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 15, 2021, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 15, 2021, 01:29:48 PM
If the GAA extend until the weekend of 28th/29th that will be after the hurling final with 40,000 in attendance. An increased attendance at Tyr v Ker at 40,000 will pull in circa 1.5-2 million euro. Bound to be very, very tempting from a financial perspective.

I doubt if there would be anywhere near 40k attendance at that match. Kerry fans won't travel and it's not that appealing of a fixture from a neutral viewpoint.
There were only 34000 at the same fixture 2 years ago.

And that was pre Covid and the teams on paper were much more evenly matched than they appear this year. You would have to think there will be less in attendance this time.

What has happened in the period since or what has each of the two teams done that changes the narrative that they are closely matched?
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imtommygunn

I would have thought that league game was a big factor. Kerry also hammered a team they couldn't beat last year so I am guessing they are thought to have improved. Tyrone have dropped off a bit too. Not having a fit mcshane really doesn't help against the bigger teams though mccurry's form you would think would help that a bit. Cavanagh a loss too. (He may be two years mind you)

yellowcard

Quote from: nrico2006 on August 15, 2021, 06:08:01 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 15, 2021, 04:28:53 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 15, 2021, 04:18:35 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 15, 2021, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 15, 2021, 01:29:48 PM
If the GAA extend until the weekend of 28th/29th that will be after the hurling final with 40,000 in attendance. An increased attendance at Tyr v Ker at 40,000 will pull in circa 1.5-2 million euro. Bound to be very, very tempting from a financial perspective.

I doubt if there would be anywhere near 40k attendance at that match. Kerry fans won't travel and it's not that appealing of a fixture from a neutral viewpoint.
There were only 34000 at the same fixture 2 years ago.

And that was pre Covid and the teams on paper were much more evenly matched than they appear this year. You would have to think there will be less in attendance this time.

What has happened in the period since or what has each of the two teams done that changes the narrative that they are closely matched?

Kerry won last years national league but got ambushed by Cork last winter in the Munster final. They have beaten all teams out the gate this season as some of their younger players continue to develop. Add in Paudie Clifford who has been player of the season so far and they were many peoples favourites to win the AI even before Mayo took Dublin out for them.

Tyrone haven't looked much if any better this season than 2 years ago although they have suffered a few injuries. The new management in fairness have not had enough time to work with these players and have done a decent job in difficult circumstances.

All the evidence suggests that Tyrone are nowhere near the level of Kerry.