Power Rankings

Started by SouthOfThe Bann, March 25, 2024, 02:55:09 PM

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seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on March 26, 2024, 12:37:44 PMHave we begun the slide as our early to mid 2011 to 16 Minor/u21 silver generation reach retirement age?
That group won Connachts at the 3 Grades but never quite cut it at AI level.
Next year could see us without a Smith, Daly or Murtagh so it could be back down among the small Counties with populations of under 100k or the hurley Counties.

But let's have one last cut at it Davy....
#plámás
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"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Rossfan

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on March 26, 2024, 12:40:25 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 26, 2024, 12:37:44 PMHave we begun the slide as our early to mid 2011 to 16 Minor/u21 silver generation reach retirement age?
That group won Connachts at the 3 Grades but never quite cut it at AI level.
Next year could see us without a Smith, Daly or Murtagh so it could be back down among the small Counties with populations of under 100k or the hurley Counties.

But let's have one last cut at it Davy....

Has Mark Mchugh been much of a loss?; Was he bringing much to the setup?

They say he's a massive loss.
But even if he is can't we repeat his formula from last year?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Wildweasel74

#47
I think Roscommon got a few very good forwards, but their system of play to counter attack is way too slow, and if the other team is  already set up, they rely heavily on Enda Smith to break the lines to work a score against a defensive minded team.

Cunny Funt

#48
Roscommon last year played a controlled possession based game making them competitive against all Div 1 teams in league and championship. Since the Dublin draw in May and the daft media talk that followed it they have gone away from that. Burke has come out since to say that way of playing wasn't his style which suggests it was the style of one if not two of the coaches that left.

This year are a disjointed and unorganized team.  They are currently a team that don't make themselves hard to score against and a forward line that struggling without Ben O'Carroll,Ciaran Murtagh and Cian McKeon.  Lack of midfield also with Eddie Nolan opting out and Keith Doyle injured. No surprise with all of that Roscommon were relegated and it will be a struggle for Davy Burke to turn things around and to get much of impact out of his team the upcoming championship.

seafoid

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 26, 2024, 09:02:22 PMRoscommon last year played a controlled possession based game making them competitive against all Div 1 teams in league and championship. Since the Dublin draw in May and the daft media talk that followed it they have gone away from that. Burke has come out since to say that way of playing wasn't his style which suggests it was the style of one if not two of the coaches that left.

This year are a disjointed and unorganized team.  They are currently a team that don't make themselves hard to score against and a forward line that struggling without Ben O'Carroll,Ciaran Murtagh and Cian McKeon.  Lack of midfield also with Eddie Nolan opting out and Keith Doyle injured. No surprise with all of that Roscommon were relegated and it will be a struggle for Davy Burke to turn things around and to get much of impact out of his team the upcoming championship.
Last year Roscommon did a lot of pre season training and hit the ground running in the league, winning 3 on the trot. They ran out of gas over 8 days in June, losing 2 matches by a point.
This year Brigids got to the all Ireland final and Roscommon didn't care about the league ....
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Cunny Funt

Quote from: seafoid on March 26, 2024, 09:22:38 PMLast year Roscommon did a lot of pre season training and hit the ground running in the league, winning 3 on the trot. They ran out of gas over 8 days in June, losing 2 matches by a point.
This year Brigids got to the all Ireland final and Roscommon didn't care about the league ....

Don't think it was possible to do a alot of training last year before the league when the appointment was made so late and wasn't Burke still involded with Maynooth college?

Would have cared about that league and it simply became uphill challenge to avoid relegation once they lost to Tyrone in round 1 and only drew with Galway at home in round 2.
 

seafoid

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 26, 2024, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 26, 2024, 09:22:38 PMLast year Roscommon did a lot of pre season training and hit the ground running in the league, winning 3 on the trot. They ran out of gas over 8 days in June, losing 2 matches by a point.
This year Brigids got to the all Ireland final and Roscommon didn't care about the league ....

Don't think it was possible to do a alot of training last year before the league when the appointment was made so late and wasn't Burke still involded with Maynooth college?

Would have cared about that league and it simply became uphill challenge to avoid relegation once they lost to Tyrone in round 1 and only drew with Galway at home in round 2.
 
Nobody knew what was in store this time last year. Monaghan got to the semi final last year and were relegated recently. Did their form fall off a cliff or did they do things differently this year so far?
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Cunny Funt

Quote from: seafoid on March 26, 2024, 09:59:17 PMNobody knew what was in store this time last year. Monaghan got to the semi final last year and were relegated recently. Did their form fall off a cliff or did they do things differently this year so far?

Monaghan were missing too many of last year All-Ireland semi final team and no surprise they got relegated. Get the majority of those players back and they should at least reach the last 8 this summer.

seafoid

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 26, 2024, 10:07:54 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 26, 2024, 09:59:17 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 26, 2024, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 26, 2024, 09:22:38 PMNobody knew what was in store this time last year. Monaghan got to the semi final last year and were relegated recently. Did their form fall off a cliff or did they do things differently this year so far?

Monaghan were missing too many of last year All-Ireland semi final team and no surprise they got relegated. Get the majority of those players back and they should at least reach the last 8 this summer.
So far how do you think Roscommon will go ?
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Armagh18

Roscommon you'd imagine will be in the last 12. After that depends who they draw.

imtommygunn

Monaghan are missing beggan, Kieran hughes is retired, McManus is being used sparingly due to hip issues and a fella is away to Aussie rules I think.


SouthOfThe Bann

We've seen every team play championship football so I thought I'd update the rankings.

1. Dublin - No Change
2. Kerry - Up 1 Place
3. Derry - Down 1 Place
4. Donegal - Up 3 Places
5. Mayo - Down 1 Place
6. Armagh - Up 2 Places
7. Tyrone - Down 1 Place
8. Galway - Down 3 Places
9. Cavan - Up 5 Places
10. Monaghan - Down 1 Place
11. Cork - No Change
12. Roscommon - Down 2 Places
13. Down - Down 1 Place
14. Louth - Up 1 Place
15. Meath - Down 2 Places
16. Sligo - Up 4 Places
17. Westmeath - Down 1 Place
18. Kildare - No Change
19. Clare - No Change
20. Fermanagh - Down 3 Places
21. Offaly - Up 4 Places
22. Wexford - Up 1 Place
23. Laois - Down 2 places
24. Wicklow - Up 3 Places
25. Antrim - Down 3 Places
26. Leitrim - Down 2 Places
27. Longford - Down 1
28. Limerick - No Chnage
29. Carlow - No Change
30. Waterford - Up 2 Places
31. Tipp - Down 1 Place
32. London - Down 1 Place
33. New York - No Change

Thoughts?

armaghniac

Arguably, Cork came closer to Kerry than Monaghan did to Cavan, so they should swap places in the ranking.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

downtothecore

Down are bit high I'd say somewhere between 20 and 15.