Should An Glenn object?

[Milltown Row2]

Will Glen accept the result?

[Baile Brigín 2]

"An extra player on the pitch had no impact on his execution"

KC lost last year's final via a goal at the death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYui7_rrWyk

The extra man wasn't placed at a random spot around the pitch. He was standing on the goal line.
why was he there ? Admiring the painting of the posts ?
If he hadn't been there would KC have had  2 or 3 on the line? Would Wattys have done what they did or lobbed the ball in ?
Would KC have panicked like last year ?

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the amount of players on the line would have been the same regardless.

[JoG2]

"An extra player on the pitch had no impact on his execution"

KC lost last year's final via a goal at the death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYui7_rrWyk

The extra man wasn't placed at a random spot around the pitch. He was standing on the goal line.
why was he there ? Admiring the painting of the posts ?
If he hadn't been there would KC have had  2 or 3 on the line? Would Wattys have done what they did or lobbed the ball in ?
Would KC have panicked like last year ?

Answers on a postcard

the amount of players on the line would have been the same regardless.

And less players surrounding McGuckian, your point is ridiculous.

[seafoid]

"An extra player on the pitch had no impact on his execution"

KC lost last year's final via a goal at the death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYui7_rrWyk

The extra man wasn't placed at a random spot around the pitch. He was standing on the goal line.
why was he there ? Admiring the painting of the posts ?
If he hadn't been there would KC have had  2 or 3 on the line? Would Wattys have done what they did or lobbed the ball in ?
Would KC have panicked like last year ?

Answers on a postcard

the amount of players on the line would have been the same regardless.

If 3 are on the line there are 12 outfield.
Wattys have 1 kicker and 14 outfield

The dynamics are very different with 16 v 15

[Milltown Row2]

"An extra player on the pitch had no impact on his execution"

KC lost last year's final via a goal at the death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYui7_rrWyk

The extra man wasn't placed at a random spot around the pitch. He was standing on the goal line.
why was he there ? Admiring the painting of the posts ?
If he hadn't been there would KC have had  2 or 3 on the line? Would Wattys have done what they did or lobbed the ball in ?
Would KC have panicked like last year ?

Answers on a postcard

the amount of players on the line would have been the same regardless.

If 3 are on the line there are 12 outfield.
Wattys have 1 kicker and 14 outfield

The dynamics are very different with 16 v 15

So did the Glen players know there was 16 active players?

[Hound]

Can't see how kilmacud can object

Their argument is they did nothing wrong.

They advised the officials they wanted to make the substitution.
The officials allowed the sub to come on.
The officials allowed the game to re-start without allowing time for Mullin to go off (or for anyone to tell Mullin that he was going off). 
The officials were notified of their error and did not order a retake.

Just a refereeing mistake. One of those things.  Unfortunate for Glen, but the rule everyone quotes is for when a club puts an extra player on without the permission of the officials. You can't penalise Crokes for the officials making a mistake.

That's how they can, and are, objecting.

During the 6 seconds of play where Crokes had 16 on the pitch, the Glen full back had a great chance to deflect the ball into the net, but missed. Imagine an alternative scenario where it was 15 v 15, and the full back got the crucial touch, the ball ended up in the net, the officials missed that he was in the square before the ball was played to him and wrongly allowed the goal. Would there be grounds for a replay because the winning goal was illegal? Of course not. A ref's error. Unfortunate for Crokes, but one of those things.

This.

So a team can fire on as many players as they want and its up to the ref to sort out? Lack of responsibility from crokes is unreal

Hell no! If you fire players on without permission from the officials, and the match goes on without the officials noticing,  then you forfeit the match. But that's not what happened last weekend.

[Look-Up!]

Doubt myself there will be a replay at this stage. What a mess.

Think it also shows major flaw in timekeeping in the game and the totally random management of it by officials and how easily abused it can be by teams. Had the 16 player thing not happened it's very likely ref would have blown up on a Glenn wide but would have played on after kick out on Glenn scoring a goal.
There's 40 seconds of play there that can be wound down on a kick out if it suits team in possession.

[seafoid]

Doubt myself there will be a replay at this stage. What a mess.

Think it also shows major flaw in timekeeping in the game and the totally random management of it by officials and how easily abused it can be by teams. Had the 16 player thing not happened it's very likely ref would have blown up on a Glenn wide but would have played on after kick out on Glenn scoring a goal.
There's 40 seconds of play there that can be wound down on a kick out if it suits team in possession.

They have to go through the process first. We can't say anything definitively at this stage.
If the GAA are serious about the rules there should be a replay.

[full moon]

Probably would be a replay but they are likely afraid of Crokes and the money/power they have. Also the Dublin media seem fully behind them, Philly McMahon calling out Glen today said they should be embarrassed.

Not sure if McMahon has much credibility he's running his mouth all the time now about stuff he knows nothing about. Irish media allow him the platform to attack Glen.

[Wildweasel74]

Same lad was never too ashamed of some of the shit he used to spout at the Mayo lads.

[Milltown Row2]

It's fair to say there are motormouths up and down the country, Joe likes a good aul chat

[Baile Brigín 2]

"An extra player on the pitch had no impact on his execution"

KC lost last year's final via a goal at the death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYui7_rrWyk

The extra man wasn't placed at a random spot around the pitch. He was standing on the goal line.
why was he there ? Admiring the painting of the posts ?
If he hadn't been there would KC have had  2 or 3 on the line? Would Wattys have done what they did or lobbed the ball in ?
Would KC have panicked like last year ?

Answers on a postcard

the amount of players on the line would have been the same regardless.

If 3 are on the line there are 12 outfield.
Wattys have 1 kicker and 14 outfield

The dynamics are very different with 16 v 15

So did the Glen players know there was 16 active players?

Exactly. Was not a factor in the taking of the free

[seafoid]

RTE reporting that both teams will take part in a meeting with the CCCC next week, following which a decision will be made.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2023/0128/1352417-kilmacud-crokes-and-glen-to-attend-hearing-next-week/

[seafoid]

GAA isn't the only sport with compliance issues.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/racing/2023/01/27/not-enough-trickling-down-from-racings-elite-to-sparrows-underneath/
One relates to professional race-day stewarding and the discrepancy between a professional industry being largely policed by well-meaning but unaccountable amateurs. Paying and equipping a panel of centrally-based professional stewards would be an important signal of intent.

[tonto1888]

Probably would be a replay but they are likely afraid of Crokes and the money/power they have. Also the Dublin media seem fully behind them, Philly McMahon calling out Glen today said they should be embarrassed.

Not sure if McMahon has much credibility he's running his mouth all the time now about stuff he knows nothing about. Irish media allow him the platform to attack Glen.

I like McMahon, always have, but what have Glen to be embarrassed about?