Ulster club championship

[tonto1888]

Glen had got their match ups at the start, they won by far more. Not sure what glass was doing for the goal miss, saying he roofed the bck of the net against Clare. Mcfaul a big miss in a tight game, plus a physical presence like Stevie O'Hara starting at Full forward. First goal shouldn't counted but def penalty not given. Errigal last goal attempt was obvious square ball from watching on TV.

The penalty shout was outside the box though. Should have been a free in

the one where the keeper took the forward out? That wasnt outside the box

[charlieTully]

all of the excitement is gone now with the vendetta match over

What vendetta match ?

[Saul goodman]

Glen are 1/12 to beat Cargin - with Cargin at 7/1
Kilcoo are 1/14 to beat Enniskillen with Enniskillen 15/2

67/1 cargin/enniskillen double- shows you how much chance the bookies give them

[trailer]

My recollection is of Ruairi Canavan starting it with number 10 from Glen being the next man in. Canavan was getting visibly more frustrated as the game went on as he was eventually worn down physically and looked knackered towards the end. Glen held their composure though as there was only going to be one team benefiting from getting into a melee at that stage.

What is the benefit of this melee though, especially at that stage?

Benefit is probably not the right term but Errigal knew they were out of the championship at that point and had absolutely nothing to lose by venting their frustrations and getting sucked into a melee. Tyrone done the same thing against Armagh in the Athletic Grounds during the League when they had 4 men sent off when they were being soundly beaten but Armagh took the bait that day and got sucked in.

Yes but that brave Armagh team went on to recover from this heinous act of provocation to win the All Ireland.

[johnnycool]

Great game yesterday in Celtic Park. Errigal did well for long periods but couldn't get the ball from their own kickouts in second half. Glen are an excellent team with some standout individuals.
Kilcoo looked really good to and seem to get better when going into this competition. Does look very much like those 2 in a mouth watering final in armagh.
Kudos to both enniskillen and cargin who won penalty shoot outs to reach an ulster semi final. Great boosts for both counties and it will be interesting to see how they get on.

There was a camera angle behind the EC keeper in the second half when he was taking a kickout and there was absolutely no movement or areas for him to kick to that gave them a chance to retain possession and Glen duly won clean possession from it.

That's a systematic failure rather than just a keepers one.

[grounded]

Glen are 1/12 to beat Cargin - with Cargin at 7/1
Kilcoo are 1/14 to beat Enniskillen with Enniskillen 15/2

67/1 cargin/enniskillen double- shows you how much chance the bookies give them

Yep, Handicap is +8 for both games. I think Kilcoo has best chance of beating that.

[LeoMc]

Great game yesterday in Celtic Park. Errigal did well for long periods but couldn't get the ball from their own kickouts in second half. Glen are an excellent team with some standout individuals.
Kilcoo looked really good to and seem to get better when going into this competition. Does look very much like those 2 in a mouth watering final in armagh.
Kudos to both enniskillen and cargin who won penalty shoot outs to reach an ulster semi final. Great boosts for both counties and it will be interesting to see how they get on.

There was a camera angle behind the EC keeper in the second half when he was taking a kickout and there was absolutely no movement or areas for him to kick to that gave them a chance to retain possession and Glen duly won clean possession from it.

That's a systematic failure rather than just a keepers one.

So it wasn't just the Glen kick out they were surrendering.

[general_lee]

My recollection is of Ruairi Canavan starting it with number 10 from Glen being the next man in. Canavan was getting visibly more frustrated as the game went on as he was eventually worn down physically and looked knackered towards the end. Glen held their composure though as there was only going to be one team benefiting from getting into a melee at that stage.

What is the benefit of this melee though, especially at that stage?

Benefit is probably not the right term but Errigal knew they were out of the championship at that point and had absolutely nothing to lose by venting their frustrations and getting sucked into a melee. Tyrone done the same thing against Armagh in the Athletic Grounds during the League when they had 4 men sent off when they were being soundly beaten but Armagh took the bait that day and got sucked in.

Yes but that brave Armagh team went on to recover from this heinous act of provocation to win the All Ireland.

Another Tyrone club dumped on their holes in the Ulster Club.

[inroundthesquare]

Shows what a poor state Armagh club football is in, as Ballybay beat Cross well who walked through Armagh, and Ballybay got a 10 point beating at the weekend

[Armagh18]

Shows what a poor state Armagh club football is in, as Ballybay beat Cross well who walked through Armagh, and Ballybay got a 10 point beating at the weekend

Probably, although Cross are a better side than they showed against Ballybay for sure, Ballybay a good side who probably didn't do themselves justice with the short turn around for the Kilcoo game, know a couple of their lads weren't at 100%.

Kilcoo at different animal at this level though who have been knocking about for years

[general_lee]

Shows what a poor state Armagh club football is in, as Ballybay beat Cross well who walked through Armagh, and Ballybay got a 10 point beating at the weekend

We'll I'm sure if we rolled a few clubs together and let them field as a stand-alone team we'd have a side capable of emulating the mighty Errigal...

Look on the bright side, you've the Intermediate & Junior winners elect.

[yellowcard]

Shows what a poor state Armagh club football is in, as Ballybay beat Cross well who walked through Armagh, and Ballybay got a 10 point beating at the weekend

If you base it on results at Ulster club level then its certainly no worse than the Tyrone championship where their winners perenially get knocked out early. 

[Blowitupref]

Shows what a poor state Armagh club football is in, as Ballybay beat Cross well who walked through Armagh, and Ballybay got a 10 point beating at the weekend

Probably, although Cross are a better side than they showed against Ballybay for sure, Ballybay a good side who probably didn't do themselves justice with the short turn around for the Kilcoo game, know a couple of their lads weren't at 100%.

Kilcoo at different animal at this level though who have been knocking about for years

Seeing how impressive Ballybay was against Crossmaglen it was a bit of surprise to see Kilcoo win so comfortably when you consider they had a number of close contests in the Down championship recently.

Current Ulster championship odds. Interesting Glen the slight favourites.

Glen 5/6
Kilcoo 11/10
Cargin 16/1
Enniskillen Gaels 22/1

[Hoof Hearted]

Glen v cargin
Live on tg4
1.30 at omagh Sunday 27th

[onefaircounty]

Shows what a poor state Armagh club football is in, as Ballybay beat Cross well who walked through Armagh, and Ballybay got a 10 point beating at the weekend

Probably, although Cross are a better side than they showed against Ballybay for sure,

I'm not so sure. Anyone who has watched Armagh club football consistently over the last five years knows it's been flailing.

Yes the fact that there is no excellent team has led to an much more exciting championship - four different winners in six seasons - but the standard is probably one of the worst in Ulster I'd wager. I'd say Monaghan club football is a mile ahead of Armagh currently in so many facets.