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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2022, 11:48:36 AM »
Derrynoose Junior winners in Armagh. I reckon they’ll give a good account of themselves in Ulster if they take it seriously.

Shane O’Neills vs St Pauls this weekend, Shanes huge favourites and with 3 county men of serious ability and plenty more handy players they could go well in Ulster.
Armagh clubs are notoriously shite at provincial level and I am pretty sure Letterkenny are Division 2 in Donegal, Derrynoose will have their work cut out. Likewise Shane O’Neill’s, that’s if they even get over St. Paul’s who are well capable of causing an upset. Whoever wins that gets the Monaghan champs. Again no pushover.
Yeah we have a woeful record bar Cross we very rarely win a game at any level whether that be due to the way our clubs are graded or due to teams going on the lash for a week or more or whatever.


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« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2022, 01:22:11 PM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?


hi look at the hurling. Donegal repeatedly putting their senior champs into ulster junior-jokers

Is there not a rule that if you win Ulster outright at Junior or Intermediate that you can't play in that same competition for 5 years?

. Its 2 or 3 years now

Donegal are above Tyrone and Armagh and Fermanagh now intercounty and should not have their senior champs in ulster junior, other counties as listed dont do that.

And it stops another team from your county getting a dig at ulster

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« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2022, 01:26:44 PM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?


hi look at the hurling. Donegal repeatedly putting their senior champs into ulster junior-jokers

Is there not a rule that if you win Ulster outright at Junior or Intermediate that you can't play in that same competition for 5 years?

. Its 2 or 3 years now

Donegal are above Tyrone and Armagh and Fermanagh now intercounty and should not have their senior champs in ulster junior, other counties as listed dont do that.

And it stops another team from your county getting a dig at ulster

The Derry set up in hurling isnt all that fair either, once it get to Ulster, explain that set up?

 If knocked out of senior (in the same year) you drop down to intermediate? So If Rossa (in Antrim)  get knocked out of Senior they can (play) intermediate?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

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« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2022, 01:40:30 PM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?


hi look at the hurling. Donegal repeatedly putting their senior champs into ulster junior-jokers

Is there not a rule that if you win Ulster outright at Junior or Intermediate that you can't play in that same competition for 5 years?

. Its 2 or 3 years now

Donegal are above Tyrone and Armagh and Fermanagh now intercounty and should not have their senior champs in ulster junior, other counties as listed dont do that.

And it stops another team from your county getting a dig at ulster

The Derry set up in hurling isnt all that fair either, once it get to Ulster, explain that set up?

 If knocked out of senior (in the same year) you drop down to intermediate? So If Rossa (in Antrim)  get knocked out of Senior they can (play) intermediate?
Lavey weren't allowed to represent Derry in the Ulster Junior Championship despite winning Derry Junior Championship. We don't have that many hurling clubs. It's as fair as can be really.

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2022, 01:52:05 PM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?


hi look at the hurling. Donegal repeatedly putting their senior champs into ulster junior-jokers

Is there not a rule that if you win Ulster outright at Junior or Intermediate that you can't play in that same competition for 5 years?

. Its 2 or 3 years now

Donegal are above Tyrone and Armagh and Fermanagh now intercounty and should not have their senior champs in ulster junior, other counties as listed dont do that.

And it stops another team from your county getting a dig at ulster

The Derry set up in hurling isnt all that fair either, once it get to Ulster, explain that set up?

 If knocked out of senior (in the same year) you drop down to intermediate? So If Rossa (in Antrim)  get knocked out of Senior they can (play) intermediate?

There tends to be a good mix of Intermediate winners in Derry anyway, this year quite a few would fancy Coleraine to win it who are traditionally a don't bother fielding in hurling/junior club

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2022, 02:04:04 PM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?


hi look at the hurling. Donegal repeatedly putting their senior champs into ulster junior-jokers

Is there not a rule that if you win Ulster outright at Junior or Intermediate that you can't play in that same competition for 5 years?

. Its 2 or 3 years now

Donegal are above Tyrone and Armagh and Fermanagh now intercounty and should not have their senior champs in ulster junior, other counties as listed dont do that.

And it stops another team from your county getting a dig at ulster

The Derry set up in hurling isnt all that fair either, once it get to Ulster, explain that set up?

 If knocked out of senior (in the same year) you drop down to intermediate? So If Rossa (in Antrim)  get knocked out of Senior they can (play) intermediate?
Lavey weren't allowed to represent Derry in the Ulster Junior Championship despite winning Derry Junior Championship. We don't have that many hurling clubs. It's as fair as can be really.
Would Lavey be a genuine Junior standard club in hurling?

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« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2022, 02:20:20 PM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?


hi look at the hurling. Donegal repeatedly putting their senior champs into ulster junior-jokers

Is there not a rule that if you win Ulster outright at Junior or Intermediate that you can't play in that same competition for 5 years?

. Its 2 or 3 years now

Donegal are above Tyrone and Armagh and Fermanagh now intercounty and should not have their senior champs in ulster junior, other counties as listed dont do that.

And it stops another team from your county getting a dig at ulster

The Derry set up in hurling isnt all that fair either, once it get to Ulster, explain that set up?

 If knocked out of senior (in the same year) you drop down to intermediate? So If Rossa (in Antrim)  get knocked out of Senior they can (play) intermediate?
Lavey weren't allowed to represent Derry in the Ulster Junior Championship despite winning Derry Junior Championship. We don't have that many hurling clubs. It's as fair as can be really.
Would Lavey be a genuine Junior standard club in hurling?
Possibly/probably not. They were the second worst team in the championship in the county this year though. What do you do? I don't think it's fair to say we're not being fair, when we're not entering a club in that Provincial Championship because they might be too strong. If anything they're trying to make it more fair on other counties.

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« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2022, 02:39:42 PM »
Fair point. I know Armagh’s winners fluctuate between senior and intermediate when in truth they’re probably  intermediate at best, there’s no intermediate hurling championship in Armagh as such.

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« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2022, 02:51:14 PM »
Fair point. I know Armagh’s winners fluctuate between senior and intermediate when in truth they’re probably  intermediate at best.

At the start in Ulster for these junior and intermediate competitions it was probably favouring the likes of the Antrim clubs at the time but some adjusting of the grading now leaves the likes of the Antrim Junior teams well off the mark in the competition in the lower end, not sure they have won that many Junior in a while.. Could be wrong though
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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2022, 05:19:20 PM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?


hi look at the hurling. Donegal repeatedly putting their senior champs into ulster junior-jokers

Is there not a rule that if you win Ulster outright at Junior or Intermediate that you can't play in that same competition for 5 years?

It used to be 5 years in the hurling but it was changed to 2 after Lisbellaw struggled in Senior for a number of years.

Ah right, it was hurling only but kinda addresses the issues the big ballers are talking about.

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2022, 05:49:52 PM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?


hi look at the hurling. Donegal repeatedly putting their senior champs into ulster junior-jokers

Is there not a rule that if you win Ulster outright at Junior or Intermediate that you can't play in that same competition for 5 years?

. Its 2 or 3 years now

Donegal are above Tyrone and Armagh and Fermanagh now intercounty and should not have their senior champs in ulster junior, other counties as listed dont do that.

And it stops another team from your county getting a dig at ulster

The Derry set up in hurling isnt all that fair either, once it get to Ulster, explain that set up?

 If knocked out of senior (in the same year) you drop down to intermediate? So If Rossa (in Antrim)  get knocked out of Senior they can (play) intermediate?


Derry only have 2 real senior ulster level teams at the minute if we are being honest abd they both do all they can to avoid ending up in intermediate. If you can't make last 2 in Derry in reality you are intermediate level ulster. Lynches and Slaughtneil won't be down there anytime soon


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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2022, 05:50:39 PM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?


hi look at the hurling. Donegal repeatedly putting their senior champs into ulster junior-jokers

Is there not a rule that if you win Ulster outright at Junior or Intermediate that you can't play in that same competition for 5 years?

. Its 2 or 3 years now

Donegal are above Tyrone and Armagh and Fermanagh now intercounty and should not have their senior champs in ulster junior, other counties as listed dont do that.

And it stops another team from your county getting a dig at ulster

The Derry set up in hurling isnt all that fair either, once it get to Ulster, explain that set up?

 If knocked out of senior (in the same year) you drop down to intermediate? So If Rossa (in Antrim)  get knocked out of Senior they can (play) intermediate?

There tends to be a good mix of Intermediate winners in Derry anyway, this year quite a few would fancy Coleraine to win it who are traditionally a don't bother fielding in hurling/junior club

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2022, 05:52:05 PM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?


hi look at the hurling. Donegal repeatedly putting their senior champs into ulster junior-jokers

Is there not a rule that if you win Ulster outright at Junior or Intermediate that you can't play in that same competition for 5 years?

. Its 2 or 3 years now

Donegal are above Tyrone and Armagh and Fermanagh now intercounty and should not have their senior champs in ulster junior, other counties as listed dont do that.

And it stops another team from your county getting a dig at ulster

The Derry set up in hurling isnt all that fair either, once it get to Ulster, explain that set up?

 If knocked out of senior (in the same year) you drop down to intermediate? So If Rossa (in Antrim)  get knocked out of Senior they can (play) intermediate?
Lavey weren't allowed to represent Derry in the Ulster Junior Championship despite winning Derry Junior Championship. We don't have that many hurling clubs. It's as fair as can be really.
Would Lavey be a genuine Junior standard club in hurling?
Possibly/probably not. They were the second worst team in the championship in the county this year though. What do you do? I don't think it's fair to say we're not being fair, when we're not entering a club in that Provincial Championship because they might be too strong. If anything they're trying to make it more fair on other counties.

Agreed . Lavey and Derry done total opposite of Donegal and Setanta.


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« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2022, 09:59:27 PM »
I'd say Dungannon will be itching to have a decent Ulster Junior run after failing to make the Tyrone SHC final. Yes, they have to play Omagh in the Tyrone JHC final but if Dungannon don't win that then some serious questions will need to be asked.
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« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2022, 10:13:58 PM »
I'd say Dungannon will be itching to have a decent Ulster Junior run after failing to make the Tyrone SFC final. Yes, they have to play Omagh in the Tyrone JFC final but if Dungannon don't win that then some serious questions will need to be asked.

Hurling ?