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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2022, 01:50:58 PM »
The change to the Cavan format was more to improve the standard of the Senior Championship. There were 16 teams in it at one stage with r
Question for Cavan people.

Intermediate teams left finished 3rd, 6th and 13th in Division 1.

Junior teams left finished 1st and 3rd and Division 2.

No Division 3 representation left.

Assuming league and Championship are separate but my question is has something been done structurally to allow Cavan teams to compete better in Ulster/All Ireland, as the clubs left all seems strong enough to play in the Championship above?

Nothing was done there is no link between league and Championship. 

Arva will probably win the Junior and got promoted to Division 1 this year. They had a bad couple of years with injuries and lads away and dropped down to junior and Division 3 but are back near full strength.

In the Intermediate Ballyhaise will play Castlerahan. Ballyhaise finished 3rd in Division 1 but had the luxury of having no county players which helped there cause. Castlerahan were relegated to intermediate last year and will be looking to go back up again.

The results/performances of Cavan teams in the Ulster club championships is not good have never won a Senior Ulster Club.
Would there be a competition in Cavan for actual junior clubs, the ones plodding about in Division 3?

By my reckoning a Division 3 league side has either won the Junior Championship or been in the final almost every year for the past decade or so. This year will be the exception as it's a couple of Division 2 sides. There happens to be 3 very strong sides there at the moment with a few others caught in the middle and a few well adrift of the rest but that's just the way it's worked out. Most years, it wouldn't be a big shock for any team (barring the 2/3 adrift) to make a Junior final.

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2022, 09:19:43 PM »
Edendork v Glenullin should they meet would be a bit of a colour clash.

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2022, 12:22:48 PM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2022, 12:41:56 PM »
Derrynoose Junior winners in Armagh. I reckon they’ll give a good account of themselves in Ulster if they take it seriously.

Shane O’Neills vs St Pauls this weekend, Shanes huge favourites and with 3 county men of serious ability and plenty more handy players they could go well in Ulster.

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2022, 10:08:36 PM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2022, 10:12:03 PM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2022, 09:07:36 AM »
Ulster JFC

Preliminary Round - 30/10/22


Drumlane (Cavan) v Craigbane (Derry)

Quarter Finals - 6/11/22

Derrynoose (Armagh) v Letterkenny Gaels/Carndonagh (Donegal)
Dromara/Teconnaught (Down) v Aghaloo/Stewartstown (Tyrone)
Aghadrumsee/Newtownbutler (Fermanagh) v Pearses (Antrim)
(Cavan/Derry) v Killanny/Clones (Monaghan)


Ulster IFC

Preliminary Round (6/11/22)


St Paul's/Shane O'Neill's (Armagh) v Corduff/Magheracloone (Monaghan)

Quarter Finals (13/11/22)

Dunloy (Antrim) v Dungloe (Donegal)
Glenullin/Drumsurn (Derry) v Galbally/Edendork (Tyrone)
Devenish/Tempo (Fermanagh) v Castlerahan (Cavan)
(Armagh/Monaghan) v Rostrevor/Saval (Down)


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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2022, 09:53:06 AM »
Derrynoose Junior winners in Armagh. I reckon they’ll give a good account of themselves in Ulster if they take it seriously.

Shane O’Neills vs St Pauls this weekend, Shanes huge favourites and with 3 county men of serious ability and plenty more handy players they could go well in Ulster.
Armagh clubs are notoriously shite at provincial level and I am pretty sure Letterkenny are Division 2 in Donegal, Derrynoose will have their work cut out. Likewise Shane O’Neill’s, that’s if they even get over St. Paul’s who are well capable of causing an upset. Whoever wins that gets the Monaghan champs. Again no pushover.

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2022, 10:14:14 AM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?


hi look at the hurling. Donegal repeatedly putting their senior champs into ulster junior-jokers

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2022, 10:16:20 AM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?


hi look at the hurling. Donegal repeatedly putting their senior champs into ulster junior-jokers

Is there not a rule that if you win Ulster outright at Junior or Intermediate that you can't play in that same competition for 5 years?


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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2022, 10:16:45 AM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?

Lost a good few players. Ronan Flanagan, Cian Mackey, Sean Brady and Paul Smith for example and all played for Cavan seniors. Didn't win a game in senior championship last year.

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2022, 10:30:06 AM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?


hi look at the hurling. Donegal repeatedly putting their senior champs into ulster junior-jokers

Is there not a rule that if you win Ulster outright at Junior or Intermediate that you can't play in that same competition for 5 years?

No, as Rock and Emyvale have both won the Junior twice and Cookstown the Intermediate twice all within a short period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Junior_Club_Football_Championship

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Intermediate_Club_Football_Championship
« Last Edit: October 12, 2022, 10:32:27 AM by clarshack »

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2022, 10:47:06 AM »
Castlerahan intermediate champions and Drumlane Junior champions in Cavan.
Were Castlerahan not SFC winners a few years ago?  :o

Did SFC 2 in row in 2018 and 2019. How on earth are they playing Intermediate lol?


hi look at the hurling. Donegal repeatedly putting their senior champs into ulster junior-jokers

Is there not a rule that if you win Ulster outright at Junior or Intermediate that you can't play in that same competition for 5 years?

It used to be 5 years in the hurling but it was changed to 2 after Lisbellaw struggled in Senior for a number of years.

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2022, 11:18:27 AM »
Derrynoose Junior winners in Armagh. I reckon they’ll give a good account of themselves in Ulster if they take it seriously.

Shane O’Neills vs St Pauls this weekend, Shanes huge favourites and with 3 county men of serious ability and plenty more handy players they could go well in Ulster.
Armagh clubs are notoriously shite at provincial level and I am pretty sure Letterkenny are Division 2 in Donegal, Derrynoose will have their work cut out. Likewise Shane O’Neill’s, that’s if they even get over St. Paul’s who are well capable of causing an upset. Whoever wins that gets the Monaghan champs. Again no pushover.

Down clubs have a woeful record at Ulster JFC level. I actually think that only two clubs have actually won a game in it, St John's in 2008 and Glasdrumman in 2015. Bar maybe Antrim, we may have the worst record in the province at this grade.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2022, 11:22:04 AM by DownFanatic »

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Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2022
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2022, 11:36:12 AM »
In the last 20 years of Ulster Junior, Monaghan have had a club in the final 14 times, 8 wins and 6 runners up, good record at this level.

In our club completions this year, the same teams have qualified for both league and championship finals at each grade.

Senior Championship and Division1 Final Scotstown v Ballybay
Intermediate Championship and Division2 Final Magheracloone v Corduff
Junior Championship and Division3 Final Clones v Killanny