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rosnarun

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Re: Assaults at GAA games
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2022, 04:47:47 PM »
If he was from your club how many people your club would give witness statements to the Garda or PSNI do you think? The answer is less than 1. That is the issue.
That guy should be looking at a criminal record. But is it any different from a corner forward striking the corner back?

The GAA are there own worst enemy on this. Shitty appeals, people getting off and it gives the impression that you can do whatever you want.
Striking a match official is worse than giving a corner back a belt.
Also Gardaí are more respected than PSNI. ..

How? They are both people. There should be no hierarchy.
That's an utterly ridiculous statement to make.
Rugby makes the distinction.

https://rugbydome.com/why-are-rugby-referees-respected-and-called-sir/

Its called Culture.

Culture is hard  to change and slow to change. But you have to start somewhere and I think a basic thing of getting a long ban and upholding the word of the referee on appeal are the small basics that make a difference.
very seldom you would see a rugby match and not have a series of assults, maybe not of refs though.
A lot of that is a lot of the refs they grew up with were the  'Masters' in their posh Private schools and it would not do to assult them

Complete and utter certified nonsense.

Rosnarun, that's pure balls and has nothing to do about ref's getting physically abused on the pitch,
not at all .
Rugby is such a small closeted world, every one knows every one and that leads to a form of respect.
and as for the the assaults' they just use different names for it .
Argybargy spirited  passionate being some of them.
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Re: Assaults at GAA games
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2022, 04:49:33 PM »
A few things that could be done to help prevent this are,
Limiting the number of people inside the wire.
Only those inside the wire are the starting players, limited number of subs eg. 5  one medic and 2 of the management team (they are not allowed inside unless they have they required vetting, safeguarding and coaching certs). All names on the team sheet. Only club officials who have underwent official GAA training for umpiring or linesman can do that role.
Meaning clubs would need to ensure everyone has the required training if the person is to be inside the wire.
Would stop the local lunatic being involved as they see themselves above training courses. Would also mean the club would need to put a lot people forward for the training to ensure someone can be inside the wire.
Strong sanctions on anyone entering the playing area if not one of the listed names on the team sheets.

By the looks of the video he was one of the teams management and should have been on the teamsheet.

The club gets put out of that competition unless they put the culprit up for sanctions due to his actions. I'd say every dog in the area know exactly who he is.


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Re: Assaults at GAA games
« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2022, 04:51:28 PM »
The level of physical violence in the game has probably never been lower but these incidents get highlighted a lot more now through phone video footage and social media.

That clip is very disturbing because it is a team official assaulting a referee. You would have to question the character of the official who attacked the referee since that is not in any way normal behaviour.   

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Re: Assaults at GAA games
« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2022, 04:58:23 PM »
WhatsApp doing the rounds names him as “psycho kenny” so obviously an individual with a reputation. Apparently it was only 30 seconds into the game. No ambiguity here, lifetime ban.

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Re: Assaults at GAA games
« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2022, 05:12:56 PM »
A few things that could be done to help prevent this are,
Limiting the number of people inside the wire.
Only those inside the wire are the starting players, limited number of subs eg. 5  one medic and 2 of the management team (they are not allowed inside unless they have they required vetting, safeguarding and coaching certs). All names on the team sheet. Only club officials who have underwent official GAA training for umpiring or linesman can do that role.
Meaning clubs would need to ensure everyone has the required training if the person is to be inside the wire.
Would stop the local lunatic being involved as they see themselves above training courses. Would also mean the club would need to put a lot people forward for the training to ensure someone can be inside the wire.
Strong sanctions on anyone entering the playing area if not one of the listed names on the team sheets.

By the looks of the video he was one of the teams management and should have been on the teamsheet.

The club gets put out of that competition unless they put the culprit up for sanctions due to his actions. I'd say every dog in the area know exactly who he is.


Looks like he is a mentor. What I am saying is you can only become a mentor once you are vetted and done the relevant coaching and safeguarding courses. The person here may be vetted and have the relevant courses, but something like this should strip you of all that and prevent him ever being a mentor again.

Do you know who has vetting and coaching qualifications in your club? It should be the minimum requirement to deter the local head cases having a negative impact on everyone they encounter. As far as I can see there is little to no barriers to prevent the wrong people being involved.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2022, 05:23:18 PM by Stall the Bailer »

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Re: Assaults at GAA games
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2022, 05:14:06 PM »
back in the day would he not be getting a visit by people with no faces

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Re: Assaults at GAA games
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2022, 05:17:07 PM »
We had an amazing experience where one of our underage players was physically attacked by adults and players in Antrim league.


Guess what because we weren't from Antrim the referee didn't notice it, nothing in his report at all about pitch invasion and assaults. He was right beside it lol

Well I was right besides some stuff that was supposed to happen and I didn't see it and was asked why I didn't see it and I answered I didn't see it, got to watch it back as it was recorded and low and behold, there was nothing to see!! You couldn't make it up
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Re: Assaults at GAA games
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2022, 05:20:07 PM »
Ref discharged from Hospital today so hopefully all well with him.
Hopefully St Aidans do the right thing no matter what outcome from Co Board or any criminal investigations.
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Re: Assaults at GAA games
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2022, 06:08:11 PM »
We had an amazing experience where one of our underage players was physically attacked by adults and players in Antrim league.


Guess what because we weren't from Antrim the referee didn't notice it, nothing in his report at all about pitch invasion and assaults. He was right beside it lol

Well I was right besides some stuff that was supposed to happen and I didn't see it and was asked why I didn't see it and I answered I didn't see it, got to watch it back as it was recorded and low and behold, there was nothing to see!! You couldn't make it up

Ye only thing was this wasn't like that. Gaeil an tsléibhe dhuibh. Gather up of thugs. Our lad ended up in royal a and é. Couldn't take their beating

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Re: Assaults at GAA games
« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2022, 08:54:57 PM »
It’s a weird aspect that this is said to have happened 30 seconds into the game.  I’ve never seen anyone get that angry in 30 seconds, after one decision?  It looks premeditated.   

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Re: Assaults at GAA games
« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2022, 09:04:18 PM »
WhatsApp doing the rounds names him as “psycho kenny” so obviously an individual with a reputation. Apparently it was only 30 seconds into the game. No ambiguity here, lifetime ban.

Also alleges a head butt, what a dirty coward. The club should get out ahead of the GAA and ban him for life from their club.

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Re: Assaults at GAA games
« Reply #41 on: September 01, 2022, 09:15:19 PM »
It’s a weird aspect that this is said to have happened 30 seconds into the game.  I’ve never seen anyone get that angry in 30 seconds, after one decision?  It looks premeditated.

it was the start of the 2nd half.  From.the look and lack of movement of people on the sideline I am.not sure it was a headbutt or punch...

either way, you enter the field of play and touch a ref you deserve a big ban and whatever else comes his way...

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Re: Assaults at GAA games
« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2022, 09:18:37 PM »
should a guy with anger issues be in that environment

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Re: Assaults at GAA games
« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2022, 09:20:54 PM »
A life ban and prosecution is what the guy should be getting. Should be nowhere near a gaa club ever again in any capacity other than spectator and even at that.

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Re: Assaults at GAA games
« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2022, 12:52:21 AM »
Simple matter, an issue like this requires Garda involvement, not the Gaa hiding behind we sort it out with shitty sanctions, How someone like this is even Involved in underage games says something about the club he represents.