NFL Division 1 2024

[yellowcard]

Will be interesting to see if Glen players play. Mickey Harte has no experience of managing that situation given that Tyrone have won no senior club All Ireland's. I wonder does that mean Derry are the more successful footballing county now? 4 club All Ireland's and 1 county versus Tyrone's 4 county All Irelands. After all you people always say that club is more important.

Mickey Harte has always struck me as being a my way or the highway type of manager. A League match in Kerry will be long forgotten before the end of the season. Those Glen players would be much better served by taking a couple of weeks off from football and coming back for round 3 of the League. They aren't machines and no point having players running on empty come June time which is when their season will be defined. 

[God14]

O'Rourke insisted those players take a break before commencing the club season. For example Glass had over a month off. Practically the month of August - he didnt train at all. These lads dont drink the way the previous generation would have, they will be rearing to go
The fact its a Saturday game complicates it a little, Derry will be travelling down on Friday. Had it been a home game on the Sunday, you could be sure they would be available

[Captain Obvious]

Will be interesting to see if Glen players play. Mickey Harte has no experience of managing that situation given that Tyrone have won no senior club All Ireland's. I wonder does that mean Derry are the more successful footballing county now? 4 club All Ireland's and 1 county versus Tyrone's 4 county All Irelands. After all you people always say that club is more important.

Yes let's run with that, Armagh better than both with 7 All Irelands.

[Brendan]

Going by social media the Glen lads are still on the piss so not a hope of them going to Kerry to play

[seanyb]

Will be interesting to see if Glen players play. Mickey Harte has no experience of managing that situation given that Tyrone have won no senior club All Ireland's. I wonder does that mean Derry are the more successful footballing county now? 4 club All Ireland's and 1 county versus Tyrone's 4 county All Irelands. After all you people always say that club is more important.

Yes let's run with that, Armagh better than both with 7 All Irelands.

True.. but 4 different clubs, all within 15mile radius.

[Armagh18]

I'd say if Harte trys to say my way or the high way it'll be him saying goodbye rather than the Glen lads!

Would be ridiculous for them to be anywhere near the first league game.

[Captain Obvious]

The worse part last year was it at home to Limerick and most certainly didn't need any Glen players to win that match.

[seafoid]

Will be interesting to see if Glen players play. Mickey Harte has no experience of managing that situation given that Tyrone have won no senior club All Ireland's. I wonder does that mean Derry are the more successful footballing county now? 4 club All Ireland's and 1 county versus Tyrone's 4 county All Irelands. After all you people always say that club is more important.

Yes let's run with that, Armagh better than both with 7 All Irelands.

Of course Down are better with 5 +3

[GalwayBayBoy]

Doesn't sound like Galway have a clean bill of health either with Silke & McDaid out with broken feet and Sean Kelly still out too. Plenty of rumours about Glynn & Tierney too but we'll know come the weekend and neither Hernon or Cooke will be around this year either.

Even Comer said on Parkinson's podcast that he probably won't play the entire league. I'd say they are just hoping to get enough points to stay up and hopefully have everyone fit for championship. The injuries sunk them last year and they are already carrying a few into this year

[Blowitupref]

According to Irish Examiner journalist Paul Keane, Conor Glass, Ethan Doherty will be available for selection for Ulster University on Wednesday so probably back for Derry in round 2 v Tyrone?

[RoundBall]

Will be interesting to see if Glen players play. Mickey Harte has no experience of managing that situation given that Tyrone have won no senior club All Ireland's. I wonder does that mean Derry are the more successful footballing county now? 4 club All Ireland's and 1 county versus Tyrone's 4 county All Irelands. After all you people always say that club is more important.

Unfortunately not a chara, Tyrone 4 to 1 up in Intermediate and Junior titles, we'll not mention u21s/u20s, Minors nor Schools competition's, it gets a little embarrassing.

[seafoid]

Mr C. Whelan says that Harte has to win Sam with Derry

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/0125/1428627-whelan-harte-has-to-deliver-an-all-ireland-to-derry/

Are there any scoring forwards in that bog outside Bellaghy ?

[JoG2]

Mr C. Whelan says that Harte has to win Sam with Derry

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/0125/1428627-whelan-harte-has-to-deliver-an-all-ireland-to-derry/

Are there any scoring forwards in that bog outside Bellaghy ?

Derry has scoring forwards, midfielders, defenders and a keeper...this is modern football.

Outside of the provincials, Leinster and Munster being a cake walk for Dublin and Kerry respectively, the scoring averages from last year are

Derry 18.5
Dublin 19.5
Kerry 22 (Kerry's 5-24 hammering of Louth, 16 points more than any of their other game total skews their total)

So Dublin and Kerry are lauded for the potent forwards they have, Derry lambasted, yet Derry are in and around the same average.. That's modern football, defenders score and forwards defend.

In Ulster, Derry averaged 22.5 points / game

[ONeill]

Mr C. Whelan says that Harte has to win Sam with Derry

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/0125/1428627-whelan-harte-has-to-deliver-an-all-ireland-to-derry/

Outside of Dubs and Kerry, the hardest job to come in to. All Ireland final appearance will be seen as progress.

[tbrick18]

Mr C. Whelan says that Harte has to win Sam with Derry

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/0125/1428627-whelan-harte-has-to-deliver-an-all-ireland-to-derry/

Outside of Dubs and Kerry, the hardest job to come in to. All Ireland final appearance will be seen as progress.

I think there's more expectation in Armagh than there is in Derry to be honest.
There's a hope in Derry rather than expectation.
I'd say the aim in Derry right now is to retain Div1 status and win the first round in Ulster and nothing more.
I certainly haven't heard expectations of an All-Ireland, but more conversations around us being in with a chance and rather tentative opinions on the appointment of Harte.
Of course, we want to go better than the last 2 seasons but no doubt if we do well in Div1 and early rounds of championship its inevitable that AI will become part of the conversation.