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Cavan / Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread

« on: May 29, 2023, 03:22:59 PM »

James Smith gone from Cavan panel and playing with his club. What happened there?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Westmeath 27/05/23 @ 4.45pm

« on: May 27, 2023, 09:03:38 PM »

Westmeath didn't deserve to lose that game but as Clint Eastwood said, Deserve's got nothing to do with it.

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General discussion / Re: Android Boxes

« on: May 24, 2023, 06:58:44 PM »

My Iptv service has crashed since Wednesday. Anybody DM me a new one?

My annual subscription expires next week. Anyone advise a good one?

 

No recommendations here, I suggest you buy a fully legal sky set up, they are brilliant

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GAA Discussion / Re: Go Games - Good or bad - discuss...

« on: May 24, 2023, 02:03:39 PM »

Our primary school tournaments are competitive, and we have a competitive league and a non-competitive league that run on the same day. We openly call it our competitive team and our development team. It works very well and every child that wants a game of football in P6 and 7 can go! There has to be some element of competition involved as children love competition from they're no age! They'll even race to the front of the dinner line if it means they win! A middle ground and common-sense approach is the best scenario. For underage games up to maybe u14 I would like a competitive half/quarter/third or whathever, of football and then a half where the score doesn’t count and everyone can get a go!

As someone said earlier, it’s the parents who are the problem 99% of the time! I have friends who turn into different people when it involves their own kids!! Usually becoming the people they once complained about themselves!

This. Parents should be f**king banned from Underage games. I have coached for a few years but as soon as my own kids are out of youth I am done with it and it is solely down to the parents. At U12.5 We had a policy that every player got at least a half. That did mean that better players got more game time as they usually stay on for the whole match. Looking back that might have been unfair as it meant the same players tended to get swapped out for each other  but we decided it would be too difficult to try to give the same game time for everyone and we wanted to avoid the situation where we had 4-5 weaker players coming on en masse near the end, significantly weakening the team and frustrating the rest of the players.

on one memorable evening before the game I had one parent complaining about the lack of game time her u12.5 son was getting   and threatening to take her son to a different club. I wouldnt have minded except she was going to take him to a larger club. To top it off, I went for a pint in the clubrooms afterwards with a couple of mates who have sons in the team and they were griping about us not playing our strongest team. They got a pretty colourful response on it.

I'm lucky and never had this experience with parents to be honest. But I have heard this plenty of times. Again I always made sure I everyone got equal game time. Heard plenty from the young fella about it though. So you can't win.

It's a fine line. Keeping all kids interested and giving them a love for the game. I'm with an U10s and we try to play all the kids. If we have more we maybe give them a kid for each half. Or I we are low we might put a younger sibling in the goal. Kids always want to know who wins but it's getting them active. The best will shine through. But the others get a sense of team and the club. Keeping them involved in gaa is the biggest result be it a fan or club member . I find soccer really tough on kids. My own lad couldn't even get into a club. Rugby I've no experience off.

Rugby I think has an issue attracting and keeping kids. Heard participation numbers are down. But no first hand knowledge.

Soccer is all small sided games until 10 or 11 then it's gung go elite. Clubs poaching each others best players etc. If you don't run a good squad you can get humped 7 or 8 nil quite quickly and your best end up leaving. It's a real mess tbh.

Rugbys problem is the dangers it possesses once it gets into full contact. You can have kids 6 ft tall in U15s smashing up small kids. Hence the fall out. Plus the fact its a game with little skill required which is ideal for big awkward mullackers to smash into each other. I wouldnt let my kids near it.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Go Games - Good or bad - discuss...

« on: May 24, 2023, 01:31:18 PM »

How do rugby and soccer manage game time and deal with strong/weaker players it's not something that you hear parents in those sports giving out about?

In my experience soccer is considerably worse, less playing time and just playing the strongest team as long as they can get away with, with a few token minutes at the end maybe for subs

Too many coaches think they are Klopp or Guardiola

In soccer where I am Soccer competitive starts at U12 and everything below that is fun orientated blitzs without scores being kept. It is the same with GAA now, this rule coming out is for the renegades with are living in the 1980s I think.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Go Games - Good or bad - discuss...

« on: May 24, 2023, 09:56:38 AM »

Is the GAA about inclusion or elitism? Probably the answer is somewhere in the middle and a line must be drawn somewhere. I think competitive football should not start until at least U12. Why? Well because its a barrier to keeping quite a lot of kids playing if they are seen as the weak link that loses games and its not just coaches, its the kids themselves and its parents on the sideline. What's the bloody rush, by the time the kids are 13/14/15 they will be playing competitive games so frequently they'll be begging for a break.
A lot here blaming coaches but I suspect that its your own little Johnny's that you're worried about and maybe you are living your past failures as players through them and you can't wait to see them lift that cup? One guy defining kids at U11 by being weak and strong - unbelievable stuff.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Go Games - Good or bad - discuss...

« on: May 23, 2023, 11:07:27 PM »

So HQ have dropped the big hammer on competitive club juvenile tournaments.

Knew it was coming but I’m disappointed.

We’d a good thing going in Down at u11.5. Non competitive leagues that allow teams to develop their weaker players, and a handful of club tournaments running concurrently, to allow the more developed and competitive players to test themselves fully.

There’s so many kids at 11 years old who want to push themselves and win things, and now they can’t. Not in Gaelic games anyway.

Developing the weak at the expense of the strong is a muddled strategy for any sport.

The more I think about this, it just reeks of “I don’t care if your Johnny doesn’t get anything out of our sport, so long as my Johnny doesn’t hate it”.

Well if you define kids as "weak" and "strong" at U11 then you are already a dinosaur I'm afraid. An absolutely ridiculous thing to do for so many reasons I could fill a page with.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Tailteann Cup 2023 - Rules from GAA Master Fixtures List

« on: May 21, 2023, 06:17:52 PM »

One game that could be considered a contest for the whole weekend.

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General discussion / Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022

« on: May 20, 2023, 12:44:39 PM »

Danny Kennedy on BBC talking about the risk of Sinn Fein domination in some areas.  Made a bit of an eejet out if himself

His wider point is that there are prods in Slieve Gullion etc.and they are entitled to representation, so SF taking over entire areas doesn't help community relations, especially as SF reps likely won't go out of their way to help "the other side". Unionists need to help themselves by getting out and voting. Finucane handles himself well.

Sounds familiar, the irony of that lost on unionists

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GAA Discussion / Re: RG at arms length

« on: May 17, 2023, 11:14:28 PM »

Exactly.

The competent authorities are the ones who should be doing the investigating and prosecuting if appropriate. Not a volunteer board whose skillset is no more applicable to the problem than landing a man on the moon.


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Another question that is in my mind - why did (seemingly) none of this come out when custody of the children was up? Not casting doubt on the allegations, more on how did the combination of authorities/legal representation allow things to string along this far? Did NG receive extremely bad advice during the custody proceedings?

If the allegations are true, which inferring from a lack of strong denial from RG they would appear to have substance, then the systematic failure needs examined and rectified.

Why don't you research coercive control?

So RG had coercive control of NG's legal advisors and social services? 

Very surprised with your take on this.

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GAA Discussion / Re: RG at arms length

« on: May 17, 2023, 11:05:51 AM »

There must be a few GAA managers who are  wifes beaters out there sweating it out!

If they are out there I hope they are sweating about it and get what is coming to them

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GAA Discussion / Re: RG at arms length

« on: May 16, 2023, 02:03:01 PM »

So anyone can email a county board with an allegation and they must stand down the manager?

Who has actually said that?

It's not so much as said that, but people have done it and it works. The case here in question I'm totally behind Mrs Gallagher my point is that anyone can send an email or go on to social media and make claims about someone.

Would you be happy if you had allegations (true or false) made public via social media that would have wider implications on your kids and job and that would have even more implications on caring for your children should you lose your job over it?

The courts are there for a reason, to settle these issues. Court by social media though seems to be the way of the world.

Nobody is saying the courts should not do their job but right back at the beginning of this the “suspended pending investigation” route was explained and what steps you would need to take before suspending the individual.

Derry had their own decision to make and steps to take. All of which have already been set out.

Put yourself in Derry CB's position if they did get that email from Nicola's dad.

Your response would be that due to the seriousness of the allegations that he should go to the police with them.

In the meantime you'd have a duty of care to all to face Rory with what you've been informed about and as we've seen from his release, he probably told them (or would have told them) that these claims have been "dealt with" during the custody case and he's been cleared and now has custody of the children.

What do Derry CB do next?

They really can't be ignoring an email of that type all the same, that's really bad if they did.

Exactly.

The competent authorities are the ones who should be doing the investigating and prosecuting if appropriate. Not a volunteer board whose skillset is no more applicable to the problem than landing a man on the moon.


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Another question that is in my mind - why did (seemingly) none of this come out when custody of the children was up? Not casting doubt on the allegations, more on how did the combination of authorities/legal representation allow things to string along this far? Did NG receive extremely bad advice during the custody proceedings?

If the allegations are true, which inferring from a lack of strong denial from RG they would appear to have substance, then the systematic failure needs examined and rectified.

Have a read of this, I posted on the other thread...

https://twitter.com/Sineadmcgar/status/1656946720486350848?t=EuciV12QYX1abR2h4tTzUA&s=19

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GAA Discussion / Re: Tailteann Cup 2023 - Rules from GAA Master Fixtures List

« on: May 15, 2023, 10:37:45 AM »

For me the Tailteann cup is a half way house, we need to get to a situation where we have 3 Tiers like in club football - Senior, Intermediate and Junior. In reality we are giving teams 3 games now but to many it will be 3 hammerings. 3 Tiers works in ladies football and in all counties club football and thats what the way  to go in my opinion.

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General discussion / Re: Eurovision final here we come!!

« on: May 14, 2023, 09:59:59 PM »

Russia Banned and Israel cheered on. f**king joke shop of a competition anyone supporting or watching should be ashamed of themselves.

They are two completely different things.

Agree re Israel, but why should we be ashamed that Russia was banned ?

Be ashamed of the hypocrisy, both should be banned. Both breaking international law and murdering children. Yet a bunch of fuckwits will dance and jump around when Israel have their song and clap themselves on the back when they ban Russia. 

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Derry - Ulster Final, 14th May, 2023 @ 4pm

« on: May 14, 2023, 07:43:08 PM »

Was there a big thank you for Rory Gallagher in the speech or did he manage to avoid it someway. Wasntb shown on tv.
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I think it was two evenly matched teams, draw fair result. I thought neither team utilised the wind so it wasn't just McGeeney. Derry were in an excellent place at HT and didn't push on, likewise Armagh in 1st period of extra time. Hard to figure why.