Is Gaelic Football unwatchable?

Started by Down Gael, August 03, 2008, 06:23:27 PM

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Down Gael

Is it just me or are is Gaelic Football becoming an unwatchable game?  Wether it be games  played in half full stadia, negative defensive football  that would make Pat Spillanes mother puke  or the poor standard of refereeing, but it looks like the people of Ireland are voting with their already empty wallets and staying away from games.
Does the GAA have a marketing department?  With Croke Park less than half full twice over  the weekend, it does not look like it. It seems Westlife and Celine Dion are bigger draws than the reigning All Ireland champions and 11 other counties combined.  How can we expect to fill Croke Park when most of the country are enjoying our holidays, with the so called credit crunch in full swing (in my day it was known as a recession) surely the GAA should be putting some serious effort into getting bums on seats, or are the TV deals worth more than you or I travelling to Croker??? Have we reached the point where we actually have too many games on TV?
For  me the biggest turn off, for want of a better phrase, is the standard of play. The win at all costs ideology started by Armagh and Tyrone at the start of this decade is now almost nationwide. Fermanagh are now the biggest  offenders, being the most unwatchable team in Ireland. 10 wides in the first half today and only 2 scores their first after almost 30 minutes of play. Their crowded defence and quick breaking game has been easily beaten by teams that can actually shoot. I never thought I would say this but I was glad Armagh beat them last week, in fact if anything they were worse last week. Armagh may be cynical and the aim of their game is to stop the opposition playing, but at least they have Clarke and McDonnell, probably the best forward partnership in the country.  Monaghan today tried to bully Kerry, but Kerry stood firm enough and were quite deserving winners even though they never really got going.
As a Down man I maybe am in no position to talk about standards after yesterday game, we still haven`t cottoned on to the fact that defences win games in modern football, but for the first time in my life I could honestly say I don`t care who wins this years All Ireland. I have lost interest. There will be two empty seats in Croke Park come September. I won`t be using them. If I want to watch a game of turnovers, defensive tactics and kicking the ball into touch I will watch rugby league. Being honest Leeds Rhinos or Bradford Bulls would probably win this years All Ireland, their kicking would be an improvement over most of the teams and their work rate and tackling would be almost up to scratch. In fact I don't think they have scrums in rugby league, but from the look of todays Gaelic football we seem to have adopted the ruck and maul. For me it is simply unwatchable. Maybe Kerry v Dublin would be tempting as a spectacle, but I doubt any of the others will hold any interest for the neutrals.
And then we have the referees, the Gaelic Football referee most be the most inconsistent type of person in the world, they make our politicians seem competent. Players are conning them, physical contact against a forward seems to have been banned. Yellow cards are being shown for minimal and sometimes non existent challenges. One of the Down defenders was shown a yellow card yesterday because a Wexford player fell and made contact with the Down man on the way to the ground, the result was  a Wexford point from 30 yards. Today Freeman beat the Kerry defender and when it would have been easy to punch the ball over the bar he went down and took his man down with him and yet again the result was a scoreable free. There are countless examples were players are buying frees, minimal contact and they are on the ground, writhing in agony until the resulting free has been scored or in Fermanaghs case knocked into row z. Maybe its the modern day players lack of scoring ability that makes them act like this or maybe its the win at all costs attitude thats causing such a blight on our games, but something needs to be done. 

stew

Here's the thing, there are some games that are brilliant to watch and some that are absolutely dire, this weekend games were poor but there will be some great games in the QF's Dublin V Tyrone will be a fascinating and to me the best game out there will be Galway V Kerry, that should be a clinker.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

PatDaly

Down are unwatchable. Worst defending I've seen in years at Croke Park. They are very worthy to play in division 3

pintsofguinness

Ah Downgael, you're just sore after losing yesterday.
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

Jinxy

Torrential rain and small crowds generally don't make for good watching. Teams that would need SatNav to find the opposition goalposts don't help matters either. There should be some savage games from here on in though.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

pintsofguinness

QuoteI suppose its a bad time of year for you pints, you are too busy watching the comings and goings on Big Brother to actually attend a game.

Don't be silly, I only watch big brother for a hour at night. 
I don't live in the country - that's why I can't attend games and I live about 50 mile from the nearest tv showing the game - I was going to make the trip yesterday to see the donkeys of down, but wasn't I glad I didn't!.
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

BallyhaiseMan

a bit of common sense with scheduling by the GAA to create a better atmosphere at games would be better

for example(and dont take the selection of venues too seriously) Wexford V Down at Portlaoise in front of a full house of 27,000 would probably have produced a better game.

Fermanagh V Kildare in Breffini in front of 25-30,000 the same.

It cant be easy to play in front of a half empty ground.

Its by no means the only reason for poor quality football,but it will help.



Down Gael

Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 03, 2008, 06:37:35 PM
QuoteI suppose its a bad time of year for you pints, you are too busy watching the comings and goings on Big Brother to actually attend a game.

Don't be silly, I only watch big brother for a hour at night. 
I don't live in the country - that's why I can't attend games and I live about 50 mile from the nearest tv showing the game - I was going to make the trip yesterday to see the donkeys of down, but wasn't I glad I didn't!.

So you were going to make the trip to watch Down, but were content to discuss the Ulster final replay on the GAA Board. I am sure Armagh are proud to have fans like you  :D

pintsofguinness

Quote from: Down Gael on August 03, 2008, 06:41:39 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 03, 2008, 06:37:35 PM
QuoteI suppose its a bad time of year for you pints, you are too busy watching the comings and goings on Big Brother to actually attend a game.

Don't be silly, I only watch big brother for a hour at night. 
I don't live in the country - that's why I can't attend games and I live about 50 mile from the nearest tv showing the game - I was going to make the trip yesterday to see the donkeys of down, but wasn't I glad I didn't!.

So you were going to make the trip to watch Down, but were content to discuss the Ulster final replay on the GAA Board. I am sure Armagh are proud to have fans like you  :D

I wouldn't think they're concerned about what I do, you're the only one that seems interested in that  ::)
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

tyroneboi

At the end of the day sport is all about winning nothing more or nothing less. Putting on a good poerformance comes a distant second to winning. Tyrone didnt play well yesterday and at times was hard to watch but i didnt care because they came out on the winning side.

pintsofguinness

Quote from: tyroneboi on August 03, 2008, 06:49:50 PM
At the end of the day sport is all about winning nothing more or nothing less. Putting on a good poerformance comes a distant second to winning. Tyrone didnt play well yesterday and at times was hard to watch but i didnt care because they came out on the winning side.
You're right, teams go out to win and you can be assured there's no one discussing the neutrals viewing pleasure at half time.
It's always been like that and always will.
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Fear ón Srath Bán

Must one be from Down to answer that proposition? Understandable I'm sure.
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pintsofguinness

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 03, 2008, 06:52:38 PM
Must one be from Down to answer that proposition? Understandable I'm sure.

Must hurt more that they can't even win!
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

TacadoirArdMhacha

In theory a poor atmosphere shouldn't actually have any effect on the standard of a match on the pitch but this weekend it seemed to. Apart from tactics, the basic skills of the game seemed in short supply too often over the weekend.
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youngfella

Its an awful sport to watch comparable to the ladies fa cup.
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