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[Won't be easy to predict the two teams to get relegated from Division one next year.]

Kerry 3/1
Dublin 10/3
Donegal 13/2
Galway 15/2
Derry 8/1
Armagh 9/1
Mayo 12/1
Tyrone 14/1
Bar 33/1
(Boylesports)

In terms of the bookies odds it's the most open championship in a long time.

Won't be easy to predict the two teams to get relegated from Division one next year.

Mayo and Armagh.

Hard to know.

Derry could go tits up if the manager thing turns into a shambles. Galway surely can't be as injury plagued this time so should be ok. Tyrone will probably want to get a good run and momentum under O'Rourke.

As Dublin, Derry and ourselves have proved the last couple of years the league really doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things, it is possible to win Sam from division 2 and it is possible to have a woeful championship after a brilliant league.

I'd be hopeful we will stay up and get more gametime and experience against the Dublin/Mayo/Kerrys of this world if even just for the occasion.

Interestly, I wonder would we have been able to develop boys like Conaty and McGrane as well as we did this year if we had been fighting for survival in division 1?

That's only true in swing states. 

If you live in NY or Texas, vote for who you want.  Given our system here, your vote is entirely irrelevant in such states.

Seen a post the other day that Texas has a good chance of coming into play in the next few elections, not sure how true that is?

f**k but there are some cynical bastards on here.

Who actually cares if counties field a forth string side in January? Who cares if they've no ambition of winning the National league?

What does it matter if it has zero impact on a teams performance in the summer?

The only difference from what I can see is that kids straight away get to wear their new gear that they got at Christmas to a county match.

It gets people like me out of the house in January when I'm at a loose end.

Dare I say it the Ulster Council might even make a few quid.

Probably most importantly though, players who have never represented their county might get to do so in front of paying supporters. Their families might actually get to see them pull on the county colours in flesh in an official match and maybe even on tv.

I know the prestige and enjoyment has gone from representing your county nowadays but these games will go ahead regardless, only they'll be behind closed doors in places like Garvaghey, Darver, the Dub etc

Yeah well said, agree with this

Forkhill probably as good as certs for Armagh junior and would imagine the talent would be there for a run at Ulster.

Intermediate genuinely wide open, St Pauls probably favourites along with Pearse Og's but no stand out team and wouldn't expect much in Ulster.

Pearse Og must have had a bit of a fall from grace? Whats happened there? Surely they'd have big playing numbers at all age groups coming through.

Think they'd a bad couple of years there with injuries/retirements/lads stepping away but seem to be back on track. Still a couple of boys with senior medals and won the league there

Forkhill probably as good as certs for Armagh junior and would imagine the talent would be there for a run at Ulster.

Intermediate genuinely wide open, St Pauls probably favourites along with Pearse Og's but no stand out team and wouldn't expect much in Ulster.

That is definitely the plan though, as you say, it'll take a bit of work.

I guess if counties set out say 3 games in January as their season prep series and market accordingly it could work.

Easier to sell Armagh v Dublin than Longford v Leitrim. I guess counties would be agreeing to split gates.

No big deal sure the McKenna cup was a nothing competition anyway. Didn't Armagh play a McKenna cup game one day (with the bones of a team and u20s) and a challenge match the next or did I misremember that??

Yeah maybe was the same day actually. Donegal played our u20's and we played either Mayo or Dublin in a friendly. 

With the shelving of the McKenna Cup for 2025 Derry's chances of three in a row are gone! I presume Counties will play plenty of challenge matches to compensate. Thus the  players welfare argument goes out the window if teams are going to play the same amount of games whether it is in the McKenna Cup or otherwise.

Sure they were doing that anyway.

The welfare argument is bullshit. With modern sports science etc players loads are being managed to the minute.

Would Counties just arrange challenge games instead of mckenna cup type tournaments.

Are they chopping the pre-season competitions in order to start the league a week or two early so that there'll be a better break between championship games?

would make sense tbh. Mickey Harte won't like it though.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1bDP1P6CN2hkZ36v/?mibextid=WC7FNe

Should he have just dumped it or left in the field? Ffs.

Sounds similar to a lot of Armagh fans after the Ulster final.

Great, if we stick with McStay for another 8 years we should see some results 

Be more than yous have got in the last 70 years anyway.

He hasn't even won a Connacht yet, we've any amount of them

Sure we still haven't an Ulster

Sounds similar to a lot of Armagh fans after the Ulster final.

Great, if we stick with McStay for another 8 years we should see some results 

Be more than yous have got in the last 70 years anyway.

Depending on the road, the car and driving conditions 100mph isn't that fast at all and most decent modern cars will sit at it no problem safely.

Far right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.

Far Right is the distraction from problems that governments don't want to solve.

Like Russia ?
Why are they anti climate action?

They've huge chunks of land that are basically useless due to the cold, if the northern ice continued to melt they'd be able to use it?

Is it not down to the fact that Mayo do not have the same calibre of players atm? You can whoop and wail all you want, but if the players aren't there to compete at the very top level, you're wasting your time? Or show the county how much it means to you by throwing the present management team under the bus...

Mayo clearly don't have the same calibre of players as they had 2012 to 2017 though probably think they should be doing better than their last two championships which was 2023 Quarter final exit by a margin of 12 points and this summer when they didn't reach the last eight.

Have they player that are that far behind Armagh or Donegal for example?

Probably not, but they shouldn't be as far behind as they have been the last couple of years.

https://www.joe.ie/news/irish-schoolbook-apology-family-816558?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0F8tlB426mdQL6vViiHoPErGpqo0vSr518UPDOnuJkvYevMcbb8WjBXpI_aem_0EvDfEHf0D_vKPfiqb0kqA

Was a misguided attempt at countering far right propaganda and the hateful racism that led to this...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7v5yn6q15do

Seen that earlier, poor woman.