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#2206
General discussion / Re: The Good American in Haiti
February 04, 2010, 08:58:34 AM
Declan, run for cover....... you US hater you.....................
#2207
General discussion / Re: The Good American in Haiti
January 31, 2010, 09:37:06 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on January 31, 2010, 09:23:13 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on January 31, 2010, 04:33:21 PM
Sure show us proof that Sadam killed millions?

Sure thing George...right after you prove to all here how Bush is responsible for killing Millions :-\
Shucks...I know, it's another dang question but I can always hope :D

So, you can't prove that Sadam killed millions then?

Proof that Bush is responsible for murdering over a million is the fact that he invaded Iraq illegally.

#2208
General discussion / Re: The Good American in Haiti
January 31, 2010, 04:33:21 PM
Sure show us proof that Sadam killed millions?
#2209
General discussion / Re: The Good American in Haiti
January 31, 2010, 04:26:25 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on January 31, 2010, 04:19:01 PM
I along with an awful lot of other people thought at the time that Saddam should be removed,
did it turn into a chaotic thunderfcuk yes.... But here's where we obviously disagree, in taking in to
consideration the colossal loss of life and hurt on our economy, like MK, I'm glad he's gone for reasons non other than he
was an extremely violent Stalinist like murdering Dictator and what's typical here is that none of ye will touch on the millions
of innocent people he himself was responsible for killing and maiming
..... Na just the US toll ::)
..it was inevitable that it would come to a head be it the start of the last decade or the start of this one imo.
that said Muppet.... is there ever a good time in the eyes of a sympathizer to remove a murdering Stalinist from power?

tyrones own, we don't disagree with you on this point. I think you will find almost everyone on this board, and across the world are glad that George Bush is gone from office.
#2210
General discussion / Re: Good luck Federer
January 31, 2010, 02:14:12 AM
I might get berated for this, but I hope Murray wins.
He is a fantastic talent, and has been knocking on the door for a while now.

Sure isn't always good to see the underdog beat a champion.

If he wins though, I will not read any British News Papers, or watch TV coverage...................
#2211
General discussion / Re: The Good American in Haiti
January 30, 2010, 09:29:58 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on January 30, 2010, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 30, 2010, 09:03:29 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on January 30, 2010, 08:47:59 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on January 30, 2010, 12:58:27 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on January 30, 2010, 11:49:40 AM
well done bill gates, provides fantastic products at fantastic prices and then donates large chunks of the profits. individual americans donate more money than any other race on earth. the other thing about living in the states is the amount of voluntary work that gets done, i never knew anyone who volunteered for anything in ireland (maybe that says more about me!).

3 questions for you here on this post:

1. Can you back up your claims that the US donate the most per head of Capita?

2. When did Americans become a race?

3. Are you aware that Microsoft have been fined approx $2 billion for their unfair trading practices?

Was going to ask you to back up your claim that NO Irish person volunteers, but sure i'll not embarras you any futher.

theres any number of them on the web, goggle them yourself

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=236671


To be honest, not the most compelling evidence there magickingdom. Anonymous people on a message board quoting figures from a link that doesn't work  :-\

try this one then, like i said theres any number of them on the web

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=content.view&cpid=736

Still doesn't answer question 1?
Have you any answers for 2 & 3?
#2212
General discussion / Re: The Good American in Haiti
January 30, 2010, 09:18:14 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on January 30, 2010, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: Declan on January 30, 2010, 07:25:34 PM
Quotedeclan, the US is not one state but a federation of 50 states each of which hold their own election for president. so its possible to not win the popular vote and still win the election by winning enough states by just a few votes. every state in the union has its own government. in the uk its possible to get 40% + of the vote and end up with 25% of the seats in parliament with first past the post

As other posters have said I'm aware of the electoral college system etc. I was just posing the original questions because of TO's arguments vis -a-vis "democratically" elected regimes around the world. Didn't get an answer either but anyway not to worry.

The more fascinating thing for me in the whole America Good/Bad thing is the level of misinformation around. A Newsweek poll out  exposed "gaps" in America's knowledge of history and current events. Perhaps most alarmingly, 41% of Americans answered 'Yes' to the question "Do you think Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq was directly involved in planning, financing, or carrying out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001?   

americans knowledge of the rest of the world is on a par with the rest of the worlds knowledge of america, poor to average. i could name cities in america with populations of over 1m that people in europe couldnt pick out on a map.

Indeed Magickingdom, Americans knowledge of the world knows no bounds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE
#2213
General discussion / Re: The Good American in Haiti
January 30, 2010, 07:00:55 PM
Maybe tyrones own forgot this one when George took the Senate apart in their sham on Capitol Hill.
At least the George I support hasn't killed anyone, unlike the million odd George Bush is responsible for killing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyyGoPerzWc part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lINNad6Njs  part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym_fFjLlHz4&feature=related  part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbuXfzSkB3A&feature=related part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuCEfYAx4A0&feature=related  part 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh6ZItn5ykY&feature=related  part 6
#2214
General discussion / Re: The Good American in Haiti
January 30, 2010, 12:58:27 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on January 30, 2010, 11:49:40 AM
well done bill gates, provides fantastic products at fantastic prices and then donates large chunks of the profits. individual americans donate more money than any other race on earth. the other thing about living in the states is the amount of voluntary work that gets done, i never knew anyone who volunteered for anything in ireland (maybe that says more about me!).

3 questions for you here on this post:

1. Can you back up your claims that the US donate the most per head of Capita?

2. When did Americans become a race?

3. Are you aware that Microsoft have been fined approx $2 billion for their unfair trading practices?

Was going to ask you to back up your claim that NO Irish person volunteers, but sure i'll not embarras you any futher.
#2215
General discussion / Re: The Good American in Haiti
January 30, 2010, 12:42:55 PM
however will be the only time i criticise america, everthing else the US does around the world is done for the greater good

This line says it all Magickingdom. Oh, and has it slipped your mind that you support the illegal war in Iraq among other places?
#2216
General discussion / Re: The Good American in Haiti
January 30, 2010, 12:19:29 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on January 27, 2010, 07:42:43 PM
first of all as someone born in the bronx and whose dad served in the US army for years i have very little time for US policy on israel, the israelies should be told to fock off and live or die with the palestinians. thats their problem and one just about every american i know has little or no interest in.

that however will be the only time i criticise america, everthing else the US does around the world is done for the greater good, sometimes it works sometimes not but the motivation is always for the greater good. if one country has to be a world policeman then thank God its the US, when the brits were a world power they plundered the place, if the Chinese got half a chance they'd do the same. . guys like dixie see nothing wrong in china, cuba, venezuela and other left wing piss pots and nothing right in the US

Magickingdom/Anthony I read this, and you make it very clear that you support the US killing machine.
correct me if i'm wrong?
#2217
General discussion / Re: The Good American in Haiti
January 30, 2010, 12:15:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 29, 2010, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: magickingdom on January 29, 2010, 09:33:04 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 28, 2010, 06:47:26 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on January 28, 2010, 06:39:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 28, 2010, 04:55:54 PM
Quote from: Tyrones own on January 28, 2010, 04:32:01 PM
Uncomfortable?  Not at all, I'm extremely proud of our hero's that are in Haiti distributing aid and pulling survivors from rubble, aren't you?

Hey I never had a problem with that, if you look back I said I would give Obama a chance.
Would ye ever make up your mind, you want to give Obama a chance but yet have nothing but disparaging comments
for the US military whom he heads up *shakes head in bewilderment at how for such a sharp fella, you wouldn't get the
irony in that*

Obama hasn't started any wars unlike his predecessor and his cronies. The US military is still involved in those wars and are fair game for criticism of their fcuk ups IMHO.

Also, you are assuming my position is the same as everyone else's that criticizes the US military. It isn't as simple as that. I referred here in the past to the book 'Fiasco' which explains that there are some superb people in the US military who predicted the route the war would take as far back as 2002 and strongly advised different strategies. However the NeoCons civilians over-ruled them and we unnecessarily have the 7 years (and still counting) war.

Criticising some of the actions of the military doesn't automatically mean that they are all wrong all of the time.

this is way of topic but since you mentioned it. the US military went half way around the world into a hostile country of 30m people (to put it mildly) and so far has suffered about 4,000 causalities. in cold mathematical terms from a US perspective its hardly a fiasco whatever some in the military think. its a war that was only ever going to have one winner

Of course, 4,000 US soldiers or their families don't matter do they? Not to mention the >100,000 Iraqis dead, countless maimed & abused.

But hey, as long as Bush/Cheney won eh?

Magickingdoms identity has been rumbled. His name is Anthony from Texas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92oza2iia7E&feature=related
#2218
General discussion / Re: The Good American in Haiti
January 30, 2010, 12:06:43 PM
Magickingdom, keep on digging holes for yourself with your silly uninformed opinions. To suggest that no one in Ireland volunteers for anything is just as stupid as your support for the US killing machine in anything it does.

Fair play to Bill Gates for his generous donation, however, Bill is not known for donating to poor countries without a massive return for himself or Microsoft. Below is an example of his donation to India 8 years ago. Microsoft definetly benefitted from this donation all right.......

http://www.globalissues.org/article/35/us-and-foreign-aid-assistance#Privatedonationsandphilanthropy

As another example, Bill Gates announced in November 2002 a massive donation of $100 million to India over ten years to fight AIDS there. It was big news and very welcome by many. Yet, at the same time he made that donation, he was making another larger donation—over $400 million, over three years—to increase support for Microsoft's software development suite of applications and its platform, in competition with Linux and other rivals. Thomas Green, in a somewhat cynical article, questions who really benefits, saying "And being a monster MS [Microsoft] shareholder himself, a 'Big Win' in India will enrich him [Bill Gates] personally, perhaps well in excess of the $100 million he's donating to the AIDS problem. Makes you wonder who the real beneficiary of charity is here." (Emphasis is original.)

India has potentially one tenth of the world's software developers, so capturing the market there of software development platforms is seen as crucial. This is just one amongst many examples of what appears extremely welcome philanthropy and charity also having other motives. It might be seen as horrible to criticize such charity, especially on a crucial issue such as AIDS, but that is not the issue. The concern is that while it is welcome that this charity is being provided, at a systemmic level, such charity is unsustainable and shows ulteria motives. Would Bill Gates have donated that much had there not been additional interests for the company that he had founded?

In addition, as award-winning investigative reporter and author Greg Palast also notes, the World Trade Organization's Trade-Related Intellectural Property Rights (TRIPS), "the rule which helps Gates rule, also bars African governments from buying AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis medicine at cheap market prices." He also adds that it is killing more people than the philanthropy saving. What Palast is hinting towards is the unequal rules of trade and economics that are part of the world system, that has contributed to countries such as most in Africa being unable to address the scourge of AIDS and other problems, even when they want to. See for example, the sections on free trade, poverty and corporations on this web site for more.

The LA Times has also found that the Gates Foundation has been investing in questionable companies that are often involved in environmental pollution, even child labor, and more.

In addition to private contributions, when it comes to government aid, these concerns can multiply as it may affect the economic and political direction of an entire nation if such government aid is also tied into political objectives that benefit the donor.
#2219
General discussion / Re: The Good American in Haiti
January 28, 2010, 09:10:54 PM
Interesting article in the "Wall Street Journal" where US doctors critise the response of the US in Haiti.
I await your response tyrones/us/own

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703808904575025091656446622.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
#2220
General discussion / Re: The Good American in Haiti
January 28, 2010, 07:00:20 PM
tyrones own, you're right. Any country that operates a death penalty is a 7th century throwback.