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Title: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: DrinkingHarp on March 15, 2019, 03:04:46 AM
https://news.yahoo.com/reported-mass-shooting-zealand-mosque-021920539.html?hl=1&noRedirect=1
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 15, 2019, 03:16:17 AM
Looks like the cnut posted it live online as he did the mass shooting.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: stephenite on March 15, 2019, 05:08:32 AM
Horrendous
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: laoislad on March 15, 2019, 06:18:59 AM
Just seen some of the videos.. couldn't watch for very long.
He's also posted a manifesto
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3vcjr5lll3r6xte/The+Great+Replacement.docx
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: Eamonnca1 on March 15, 2019, 06:43:18 AM
40 dead, multiple suspects. Sounds like terrorism, pure and simple. I wonder how they were radicalized.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2019, 07:11:54 AM
Horrible, hopefully it won't bring further attacks because if it
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: seafoid on March 15, 2019, 08:03:44 AM
Ardern said: "Many directly affected by this shooting may be migrants to New Zealand, they may even be refugees here...They are us. The person who has perpetuated this violence against us is not."
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 15, 2019, 08:06:08 AM
49 now. Trump will be on spouting shite soon.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: stephenite on March 15, 2019, 08:18:16 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 15, 2019, 06:18:59 AM
Just seen some of the videos.. couldn't watch for very long.
He's also posted a manifesto
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3vcjr5lll3r6xte/The+Great+Replacement.docx

Stop sharing that, have a bit of cop on
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: tonto1888 on March 15, 2019, 08:18:25 AM
Shocking
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: tonto1888 on March 15, 2019, 08:19:00 AM
Fraser Annings response is sickening
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: laoislad on March 15, 2019, 08:21:44 AM
Quote from: stephenite on March 15, 2019, 08:18:16 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 15, 2019, 06:18:59 AM
Just seen some of the videos.. couldn't watch for very long.
He's also posted a manifesto
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3vcjr5lll3r6xte/The+Great+Replacement.docx

Stop sharing that, have a bit of cop on
Give over ffs. Don't read it if you don't want to.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: AZOffaly on March 15, 2019, 08:25:31 AM
It was an attack on Mosques, so Trump probably won't say too much. the Australian Senator from Queensland gave a truly bizarre statement.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: stephenite on March 15, 2019, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 15, 2019, 08:21:44 AM
Quote from: stephenite on March 15, 2019, 08:18:16 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 15, 2019, 06:18:59 AM
Just seen some of the videos.. couldn't watch for very long.
He's also posted a manifesto
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3vcjr5lll3r6xte/The+Great+Replacement.docx

Stop sharing that, have a bit of cop on
Give over ffs. Don't read it if you don't want to.

I haven't read it. NZ authorities are urging all people to not further share the footage or details from the manifesto. If you took a second to think about why they've asked that you'd maybe think twice
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: laoislad on March 15, 2019, 08:37:13 AM
Quote from: stephenite on March 15, 2019, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 15, 2019, 08:21:44 AM
Quote from: stephenite on March 15, 2019, 08:18:16 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 15, 2019, 06:18:59 AM
Just seen some of the videos.. couldn't watch for very long.
He's also posted a manifesto
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3vcjr5lll3r6xte/The+Great+Replacement.docx

Stop sharing that, have a bit of cop on
Give over ffs. Don't read it if you don't want to.

I haven't read it. NZ authorities are urging all people to not further share the footage or details from the manifesto. If you took a second to think about why they've asked that you'd maybe think twice
All the major news outlets are quoting extracts from the manifesto ffs. If I was posting links to the video I'd understand your stance but not for sharing a link to something that you can read extracts from on any of the news websites.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: tonto1888 on March 15, 2019, 08:40:28 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 15, 2019, 08:25:31 AM
It was an attack on Mosques, so Trump probably won't say too much. the Australian Senator from Queensland gave a truly bizarre statement.

Fraser Anning
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 15, 2019, 08:41:47 AM
Terrible news to wake up to. The mind boggles sometimes as to what humanity is capable of.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: macdanger2 on March 15, 2019, 09:04:04 AM
Jesus, terrible stuff
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: Rossfan on March 15, 2019, 09:05:54 AM
Absolutely terrible news.

Of course these cnuts get plenty of encouragement from the words of the various nasty right wing "populists" around the Western world.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: trailer on March 15, 2019, 09:12:22 AM
Awful news. It incomprehensible how violent and hateful human beings can be.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: Rossfan on March 15, 2019, 09:24:24 AM
We've spent thousands of years killing each other........ :-\
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: oakleaflad on March 15, 2019, 09:35:53 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 15, 2019, 09:24:24 AM
We've spent thousands of years killing each other........ :-\
A lot of it because of religion too
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: JimStynes on March 15, 2019, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 15, 2019, 08:37:13 AM
Quote from: stephenite on March 15, 2019, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 15, 2019, 08:21:44 AM
Quote from: stephenite on March 15, 2019, 08:18:16 AM
Quote from: laoislad on March 15, 2019, 06:18:59 AM
Just seen some of the videos.. couldn't watch for very long.
He's also posted a manifesto
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3vcjr5lll3r6xte/The+Great+Replacement.docx

Stop sharing that, have a bit of cop on
Give over ffs. Don't read it if you don't want to.

I haven't read it. NZ authorities are urging all people to not further share the footage or details from the manifesto. If you took a second to think about why they've asked that you'd maybe think twice
All the major news outlets are quoting extracts from the manifesto ffs. If I was posting links to the video I'd understand your stance but not for sharing a link to something that you can read extracts from on any of the news websites.

Exactly! Wise up, it wasn't like he posted the video ffs.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 09:41:48 AM
Read a stat online there - 49 dead in New Zealand is the equivalent of 333,000 in the US.

Brutal attack & terrible news to wake to.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: gallsman on March 15, 2019, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 09:41:48 AM
Read a stat online there - 49 dead in New Zealand is the equivalent of 333,000 in the US.

Brutal attack & terrible news to wake to.

Where did you read that? Because whoever wrote it (and you perhaps) needs to go back to maths class. It would be about 330 people. Horrific obviously, but missing out by a factor of 10³ a bit mental.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: Rossfan on March 15, 2019, 09:49:53 AM
Population of NZ 4m, US c 300m?
49 x 75 = 3,675.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 09:55:32 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 15, 2019, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 09:41:48 AM
Read a stat online there - 49 dead in New Zealand is the equivalent of 333,000 in the US.

Brutal attack & terrible news to wake to.

Where did you read that? Because whoever wrote it (and you perhaps) needs to go back to maths class. It would be about 330 people. Horrific obviously, but missing out by a factor of 10³ a bit mental.

To be dead honest the source was just a highly retweeted tweet. However having done the maths (which admittedly I'm poor at) I believe it would be roughly the same as 3,300?

However after an attack like that I don't think it's quite relevant to be arguing about maths
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: oakleaflad on March 15, 2019, 10:00:26 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 09:55:32 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 15, 2019, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 09:41:48 AM
Read a stat online there - 49 dead in New Zealand is the equivalent of 333,000 in the US.

Brutal attack & terrible news to wake to.

Where did you read that? Because whoever wrote it (and you perhaps) needs to go back to maths class. It would be about 330 people. Horrific obviously, but missing out by a factor of 10³ a bit mental.

To be dead honest the source was just a highly retweeted tweet. However having done the maths (which admittedly I'm poor at) I believe it would be roughly the same as 3,300?

However after an attack like that I don't think it's quite relevant to be arguing about maths
Perhaps it was factoring in murder rate also (which I am assuming is a lot higher in the US) and not a direct population comparison. In any case, still terrible news and sad that we as humans are capable of such attacks.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: seafoid on March 15, 2019, 10:00:45 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 15, 2019, 09:49:53 AM
Population of NZ 4m, US c 300m?
49 x 75 = 3,675.
40,000 Americans are shot dead every year
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: stephenite on March 15, 2019, 10:02:23 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on March 15, 2019, 08:40:28 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 15, 2019, 08:25:31 AM
It was an attack on Mosques, so Trump probably won't say too much. the Australian Senator from Queensland gave a truly bizarre statement.

Fraser Anning

Elected as an Australian senator with a grand total of 19 votes
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: gallsman on March 15, 2019, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 09:55:32 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 15, 2019, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 09:41:48 AM
Read a stat online there - 49 dead in New Zealand is the equivalent of 333,000 in the US.

Brutal attack & terrible news to wake to.

Where did you read that? Because whoever wrote it (and you perhaps) needs to go back to maths class. It would be about 330 people. Horrific obviously, but missing out by a factor of 10³ a bit mental.

To be dead honest the source was just a highly retweeted tweet. However having done the maths (which admittedly I'm poor at) I believe it would be roughly the same as 3,300?

However after an attack like that I don't think it's quite relevant to be arguing about maths

Ah, jaysus, a bit embarrassing I cocked that up alright.

If it's not relevant, why did you introduce it in the first place? You're the one who started drawing parallels.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 10:20:30 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 15, 2019, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 09:55:32 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 15, 2019, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 09:41:48 AM
Read a stat online there - 49 dead in New Zealand is the equivalent of 333,000 in the US.

Brutal attack & terrible news to wake to.

Where did you read that? Because whoever wrote it (and you perhaps) needs to go back to maths class. It would be about 330 people. Horrific obviously, but missing out by a factor of 10³ a bit mental.

To be dead honest the source was just a highly retweeted tweet. However having done the maths (which admittedly I'm poor at) I believe it would be roughly the same as 3,300?

However after an attack like that I don't think it's quite relevant to be arguing about maths

Ah, jaysus, a bit embarrassing I cocked that up alright.

If it's not relevant, why did you introduce it in the first place? You're the one who started drawing parallels.

I said it's not relevant to be arguing about maths. My first post wasn't an argument about maths.



Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: gallsman on March 15, 2019, 10:23:56 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 10:20:30 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 15, 2019, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 09:55:32 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 15, 2019, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 09:41:48 AM
Read a stat online there - 49 dead in New Zealand is the equivalent of 333,000 in the US.

Brutal attack & terrible news to wake to.

Where did you read that? Because whoever wrote it (and you perhaps) needs to go back to maths class. It would be about 330 people. Horrific obviously, but missing out by a factor of 10³ a bit mental.

To be dead honest the source was just a highly retweeted tweet. However having done the maths (which admittedly I'm poor at) I believe it would be roughly the same as 3,300?

However after an attack like that I don't think it's quite relevant to be arguing about maths

Ah, jaysus, a bit embarrassing I cocked that up alright.

If it's not relevant, why did you introduce it in the first place? You're the one who started drawing parallels.

I said it's not relevant to be arguing about maths. My first post wasn't an argument about maths.

It's entirely relevant when you state that it's the equivalent of 330,000 people being murdered.

And you can't argue the maths, you can be either right or wrong.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 10:27:31 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 15, 2019, 10:23:56 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 10:20:30 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 15, 2019, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 09:55:32 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 15, 2019, 09:46:57 AM
Quote from: toby47 on March 15, 2019, 09:41:48 AM
Read a stat online there - 49 dead in New Zealand is the equivalent of 333,000 in the US.

Brutal attack & terrible news to wake to.

Where did you read that? Because whoever wrote it (and you perhaps) needs to go back to maths class. It would be about 330 people. Horrific obviously, but missing out by a factor of 10³ a bit mental.

To be dead honest the source was just a highly retweeted tweet. However having done the maths (which admittedly I'm poor at) I believe it would be roughly the same as 3,300?

However after an attack like that I don't think it's quite relevant to be arguing about maths

Ah, jaysus, a bit embarrassing I cocked that up alright.

If it's not relevant, why did you introduce it in the first place? You're the one who started drawing parallels.

I said it's not relevant to be arguing about maths. My first post wasn't an argument about maths.

It's entirely relevant when you state that it's the equivalent of 330,000 people being murdered.

And you can't argue the maths, you can be either right or wrong.

And we were both wrong  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: gallsman on March 15, 2019, 10:38:35 AM
We were.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: Rossfan on March 15, 2019, 10:40:12 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on March 15, 2019, 09:59:36 AM
Of all Western countries such a terrorist attack could have happened, New Zealand certainly would not have topped the list. It's not a multicultural utopia but is otherwise a relatively quiet, peaceful place geographically isolated from much of the rest of the world where people from various ethnicities get along quietly.
It has to be said, if something like this can happen in New Zealand, it could also happen in Ireland.
R.I.P.
With likes of Gemma Doherty, Casey, Justin Barrett and the rest if the neo Nazs whipping up hatred ....
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: gallsman on March 15, 2019, 10:43:16 AM
To the surprise of absolutely nobody, Fraser Anning is an associate of Farage.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: Main Street on March 15, 2019, 11:31:11 AM
Fraser's now guaranteed a seat for life, the hero of the Queensland bumpkins.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: Dire Ear on March 15, 2019, 12:01:47 PM
A suspect in the New Zealand mosque shootings appears to have described himself as an "ordinary white man" who "decided to take a stand".

Brenton Tarrant, 28, from Australia, was named in media reports in his home country as the gunman "My parents are of Scottish, Irish and English stock. I had a regular childhood, without any great issues. I had little interest in education during my schooling, barely achieving a passing grade."

He adds: "I am just a regular White man, from a regular family. Who decided to take a stand to ensure a future for my people."

He describes himself as "a private and mostly introverted person" and admits he is racist, adding that he is an "Eco-fascist by nature".

He said New Zealand was not the original choice for an attack, saying he only came to the country temporarily to plan and train.
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: Insane Bolt on March 15, 2019, 01:19:00 PM
Quote from: stephenite on March 15, 2019, 10:02:23 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on March 15, 2019, 08:40:28 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 15, 2019, 08:25:31 AM
It was an attack on Mosques, so Trump probably won't say too much. the Australian Senator from Queensland gave a truly bizarre statement.

Fraser Anning

Elected as an Australian senator with a grand total of 19 votes

William Fraser Anning......need we say more?
Title: Re: Mass shooting in New Zeland
Post by: Insane Bolt on March 15, 2019, 01:21:01 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on March 15, 2019, 09:59:36 AM
Of all Western countries such a terrorist attack could have happened, New Zealand certainly would not have topped the list. It's not a multicultural utopia but is otherwise a relatively quiet, peaceful place geographically isolated from much of the rest of the world where people from various ethnicities get along quietly.
It has to be said, if something like this can happen in New Zealand, it could also happen in Ireland.
R.I.P.

Ever heard of Darkley? Border Fox?