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Umpire - you're right on McCrickard, I've changed it now. Copy and past problems!

GaelciGames.In,  just a few notes for your:

- There is only one Sean Ward played for Down in recent memory (and some, like Oisin McConville, would say thaknfully).
- Paul McComiskey and Paul McCumiskey are the same person, but outside his family nobody seems sure which way to spell his surname.
- A Declan Rooney from Mayobridge played for Down up to 2004. Since 2005 a different Declan Rooney from Burren has featured.
- There are two Peter Turleys, one from Downpatrick and one from Saval, they are the same age and play mostly at midfield. The one from Downpatrick is the one who has played most in the past 2 years, but beyond that good luck working out which is whicj.

Amallon or Trevor Hill might be your best bet for working out who S Scullion is.

Peter   Travers (Bryansford)  

Plunkett   McConville (Clonduff)  

Ciaran   Byrne (Burren)  

Brendan   Grant (Mayobridge)  

Malachy   McMurray (Bosco)  

Miceal   Magill (Warrenpoint)  

Brendan   Kearney (Warrenpoint)  

Alan   Molloy (Loughinisland)  

Liam   Doyle (Liatroim)  

Michael   Walsh (Mayobridge)  

Brendan   Coulter (Mayobridge)  

Aiden   O'Prey (Liatroim)  

Paul   Shields (Clonduff)  

Shane   Mulholland (Ballyholland)  

Ronan   Murtagh (Ballyholland)    

Sean   Ward (Burren)  

Micheal   McVeigh (Castlewellan)  

Conor   Daly (Rostrevor)  

Simon   Poland (Bryansford)  

Mickey   Linden (Mayobridge)  

Brian   Burns (Bryansford)  

John   Clarke (An Riocht)  

Kevin   McGrath (Rostevor)  

Gregory   McCartan (Ballymartin / Castlewellan)  

Shane   King (Bryansford)    

Noel   Sexton (Mayobridge)  

Paudie   Bradley (Burren / Mayobridge)  

Finbarr   Caulfield (Rostrevor)  

Ronan   Sexton (Mayobridge)  

Shane   Treanor (Castlewellan)  

Jackie   Lynch (Drumgath)  

Adrian   Carville (Bryansford)  

Dan   Gordon (Loughinisland)  

James   McCartan (Tullylish / Burren)  

Martin   Cole  (Rostrevor)

Colin   McCrickard (Liatroim)  

Anthony   Devlin (Kilcoo)  

Daniel   McCartan (Tullylish / Burren)  

Glen   McMahon (Mayobridge / Burren)  

Declan   Rooney (One from Mayobridge, One from Burren)  

Patrick Pearse   McCartan (Liatroim)  

Sean   Ward (Burren)  

Shane   Ward (Clonduff)  

John   Lavery (An Riocht / Carryduff)  

Adrian   Scullion (Bellaghy / Carryduff)  

Declan   Sheeran (Drumgath)  

Brendan   McVeigh (An Riocht)  

Micheal   Higgins (Longstone)  

Joe   Doran (Loughinisland)  

Brendan   Ward (Loughinisland)    

Aodhan   Shields (Bryansford)  

Gerard   McCrickard (Bryansford)    

Peter   Turley (One from Downpatrick, one from Saval)  

Daniel   Hughes (Saval)  

Stephen   Kearney (Mitchels / Saval)  

Sean   Farrell (Rostrevor)  

Barry   Doran (Longstone)  

Callum   King (Bryansford)  

Eoin   McCartan (Tullylish / Burren)  

S   Scullion ? ? ? ?  

Damien   Rafferty (Shamrocks)  

Aidan   Brannigan (Kilcoo)  

Ambrose   Rodgers (Longstone)  

Paul   Murphy (Ballyholland)  

Fintan   McGreevy (Castlewellan)  

Aidan   Rice (Liatroim)  

Gavin   Barry (Mayobridge)  

Conor   Laverty (Kilcoo)  

Mark   Doran (Longstone)  

Conor   Gribben (Bryansford)  

Mark   Poland (Longstone)  

Aiden   Carr (Clonduff)  

Jason   Brown (Clonduff)  

James   Colgan (An Riocht)  

Bernard   Connell (Drumgath)  

Stephen   Toner (Bryansford)  

Darren   Cunningham (Saval)  

Ruairi   McArdle (Castlewellan)  

Kevin   McGuigan (Shamrocks)  

Peter   Telford (Downpatrick)    

Kevin   Gracey (Downpatrick)  

Brendan   McGourty (Darragh Cross)  

Brendan   Loughran (Shamrocks)  

Eoin   Henry (Warrenpoint)  

Paudie   Matthews (Clonduff)  

Aidan   Burns (Castlewellan)  

Brian   Sweeney (St Michael's)  

Colm   Murtagh (Glenn)  

Gareth   Johnson (Loughinisland)  

Martin   McClean (Kilcoo)  

James   McGovern (Burren)  

John   Boyle (Warrenpoint)  

Packie   Downey (Drumgath)  

Ciaran   McGovern (Burren)  

Gary   McArdle (Annaclone)  

Kevin   McKernan (Burren)  

Cathal   Magee (Mayobridge)  

John   Fegan (Clonduff)  

Colm   Murney (Rostrevor)  

John   McAreavey (Aghaderg / Tullylish)  

Darren   O'Hanlon (Bryansford)  

Luke   Howard (Bryansford)  

Paul   McCumiskey (Dundrum)  

Hugh   Davey (Shamrocks)  

Conor   Garvey (Mayobridge)  

Louis   Sloan (Atticall)  

Joe   Ireland (Bryansford)  

Michael   Magee (Ardglass)  

Kevin   Duffin (Castlewellan)  

Peter   Fitzpatrick (Ballymartin)  

Conor   Maginn (Bryansford)  

Jamie   O'Reilly (Loughinisland)  

Brendan   McArdle (Annaclone)  

I think the stickfighting was in it and all last year.

No hurling predictions this year, anyone agree?

4-4-2

Paul Robinson

Charles N'Zogbia
Jonny Wilkinson
Mary-Lou McDonald
Kevin Pietersen

Bill Cullen
Eamon Dunphy
Michael Jackson (RIP)
Dame Mary Peters

Anthony McNamee
Colm Cooper

Subs: Miley Cyrus, Jeremy Paxman, Tanya Harding, Willie Ofahengaue and  Lord Mandelson

Given our record in the Senior Championship (no wins since 2000!), it might be a bit outlandish for me to say it, but I reckon there won't be a kick of a ball between Ballyholland and Burren.

Balllyholland beat Shamrocks by a point tonight in the MFC Q/F.

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Gary Gordon is still in his 20's!!!!!

Surely you are kidding.

Somebody should tell Loughinisland's manager that football is a young man's game. I can't believe Gary Gordon and Stephen Molloy are still running around.

I'd like to be in the same section as fntn.

Before going on, please desist from turning this into a name calling thread or a "we're still better you than you" thread.


A serious question for Armagh diehards. Will any of you accept that your team is in a period of transition, and that this is not Peter McDonnell's fault? And if you'll accept that, then would you also accept that this is only natural for a county of your size and resources?


For me, once the crux of Armagh's team of the 2000s was formed by the two Brians then refined by Big Joe, changes to the team were gradual, and normally as the result of better talent coming through, rather than holes needing to be filled. 11 or more guys knew what position they'd be playing in Championship time come the end of February.

McDonnell on the other hand is faced with building a team more or less from scratch. And if truth be told, with a group of players that looks distinctly average in comparison to what's just gone by.

I'd suggest that the negative, defensive tactics he is employing are the result of a simple realisation that his team, for now anyway, would get slaughtered if they took the bigger teams on in a scoring contest. The creativity isn't there, the power isn't there and the leadership isn't there.

Or because you fellas have been spoiled in recent years, is this too much of a realisation to take.


By the way, I'd love a negative manager to come on board at Down for a few seasons, especially when a team is starting out. If a manager can impose a defensive will upon all his players, his successors have a much easier job to do.

Linesmen manage it fine in soccer though

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1. According to match reports every week, they don't.
2. Linesmen in socccer only look after 50m of pitch. GAA linesmen do 140m.
3. If you've ever been to a local soccer match, when it's clubmen doing the line, you'll realise that referees never pay heed to a thing these linesmen do, because if they do, matches tend to get abandoned. Which we don't need in GAA.

2 points for scores from the sideline, prob more suited to hurling but could work in the fudball too

So winning a sideline becomes a tactic then? Should teams then have a specialist sideline kicker in their team regardless of ability?

Sidelines are a means of restarting play. Trying to make them a deciding factor in a game is madness. Fookin madness.

If the tackle is not defined, then a player should be only be allowed one bounce one solo and have to release the ball.

Because the tackle is not defined, that's pretty much the way the game has become anyway. Apart from corner-forwards when one on one, anyone eating the ball up these days tends to regret it.

Nonsense, there's 3 points for a goal but does that mean teams go for goals only? Nope.  So what makes you think teams would only go for 2 points?  

About 15 years ago rugby made it 5 pts for a try instead of 4. Seeing as you could get 4 pts for all the exertion of a try, or 3 pts for the relative effortlessness of a drop goal/penalty, teams thought it much more efficient not to pursue tries. Football would end up in a similar quandary.

Leave the rules alone. Yis are like Free Presbyterians and Reformed Presbyterians, tinkering and tweaking without really knowing why.

If referees showed a little more sense and seriously punished serial fouling, and if the DRA simply refused appeals except in cases of mistaken identity, the game would clean itself up within a year. Until this happens, we'll always have Derry vs Monaghans to put up with.

And when it happens, coaches like McEnaney and Cassidy would have no choice but to concentrate on core skills.


The mark my arse. Why not admire the skill in breaking the ball and winning breaking ball instead? Otherwise we'll end up with midfield being dominated by 7 ft tool footballing mungos.

Two points for a score outsiide 30m? yep, why not remove the full-forward from games completely, and play everybody behind the ball. Let's call the action a drop goal, and then rename our sport rugby.

13-a-side? Say goodbye to anyone playing county football again who can't run 100m in 11.5 secs.


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