Quote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 02:40:18 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on February 05, 2025, 02:16:42 PMQuote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 02:05:29 PMAnd yet your posts on this focus only on Oct 7. You try and keep the focus there and away from what has happened both before and after. That to me speaks volumes.Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2025, 01:51:53 PMQuote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 01:40:36 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on February 05, 2025, 01:13:40 PMQuote from: whitey on February 05, 2025, 01:12:12 PMJustifying genocide again.... "If you think the enemy soldier is in that town, kill everyone"... similar to Willie McCrea's proposal to air bomb west Belfast, Crossmaglen etc... ure bound to hit IRA volunteers as well.Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2025, 12:59:55 PMLads stop bickering.
We now have the orange anti human piece of sh1te going full Nazi "resettlenent" at the behest of the War Criminal GroßIsrael cnt.
They've made Gaza almost uninhabitable and are now starting on the West Bank.
Their"war on Hamas" didn't exactly work out when you see their men armed to tge teeth at the hostage handovers etc.
100%
Hamas retreated to their underground bunkers and used the civilian population of Gaza as human shields
I'm not justifying anything
Going in to this EVERYONE (with 2 brain cells to rub together) knew what the Israeli response would be.
I don't know anyone who has said the attacks on October 7th were ever going to end well, in the end. Not one person on here I don't think has disputed that. Maybe just maybe the Hamas view was take loads of hostages raise awareness and after a lot of bluster we can negotiate with Israel return hostages and get some back in return.
Your points Whitey are valid though on the outcome, it was going to be bad, but what a mostly everyone with a free thinking mind has said that the geocide that has followed is beyond anyone with half a brains comprehension.
Hamas and their predecessors have carried out multiple attacks over the 75 odd years, the response now from Israel is just barbaric
Are you familiar with the death of Rachel Corrie who got run over by an Israeli military bulldozer?
I read up about it at the time and the default response by the Israeli military to a "terrorist" attack is to demolish the home of the families of those identified as being involved
I'm not (and I don't know how anyone could) justifying the Israeli response. I'm saying that it's almost 100% certainty that this will be the response.
Militarily Hamas/Hezbollah cannot defeat Israel. Everyone knows that.
So if you can't defeat an enemy militarily , why would you want to start an all out war with them?
Well there was a real good likelihood of Peace in the early 2000s but Hamas decided it wanted conflict
Hardline Israelis assassinated their own pm when he was going to give some concessions to Palestine in the 90's?