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#1
Quote from: Captain Obvious on Today at 09:33:56 AMToday 12 teams left in the All Ireland championship and by next Sunday evening the 30th will only be four teams left standing. Knock out stages too rushed for a group stage to eliminate four teams.

People complaining that not enough teams are getting eliminated, but also that too many teams will soon be getting eliminated.

Even if 8 teams were eliminated at the end of the group stage. We'd still be down to four teams on the 30th.
#2
Quote from: Estimator on June 16, 2024, 05:16:15 PMMcNally looking straight at that and gives a free out against Fenton  :o
Doubled up by another shocker from the umpire.
#3
McNally looking straight at that and gives a free out against Fenton  :o
#4
Another free not given for the initial throw in. New rules are looking 1v1, but all Hurson has to do there is blow for a foul.
#5
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
June 16, 2024, 09:58:33 AM
Individual performances last night were much better than in previous games. Didn't hand the opposition gilt-edged goal opportunities, which is a bonus. Thought the entire defence were decent.. including McKaigue. McFaul / Baker / McCloskey would all have been options for Motm.

Gilmore was showing a decent bit of bite on and off the ball. Dessie Dolan wasn't impressed with him. Gilmore did give one bad ball away. But Baker showed some tactical nous and fouled the man then lay on top of him, assisted by Glass.

Midfield were decent too, always looking for the ball. Glass made a couple of vital defensive interceptions, and scored a couple of points.

Only the Glen lads in the forward line can  come away with any credit. That was probably McGuigans worst (shooting) performance in a Derry jersey, think it was 3 wide, 2 short and one free that just about made it over the bar.

Not sure what Cassidy brings to the team any more - great at running in a straight towards the corner and then turning back. He'd a couple of shooting chances yesterday and looked like he didn't have the confidence to go for it. Could maybe do with some time on the sideline.

Looks like Harte is the same as RG in terms of trusting the bench. All those subs, that eventually came on, could have been made much earlier.

Will the Tyrone game be in Omagh on Saturday evening or Sunday afternoon?  ;)
#6
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
June 12, 2024, 12:18:49 PM
Saturday's game is now a Double Header with Down v Wicklow!
#7
Magherafelt have been in the last 4 county minor finals, winning two of them.
They had Four Master beaten in the Ulster Club until the ref made a bizarre penalty call against them. So they are doing something right at underage, and they look to be the only club fit to challenge Glen.
#8
Cahair O'Kane has the unconfirmed venues on Twitter:
Saturday
7pm Newry: Derry v Westmeath (GAAGO)
Sunday
1.45pm Sligo: Galway v Armagh (RTE)
#9
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 03, 2024, 09:08:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 03, 2024, 08:58:51 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on June 03, 2024, 06:12:13 PMAgreed tbrick18, that's exactly how I see it ... winning at a canter against a Derry team not up for the fight is one thing, backing it up the next day would be confirmation that Armagh are undisputedly trending upwards in the pecking order.  But that is exactly the opportunity that McGeeney and Armagh want to have, and no better team to square up to than Galway.

There was one penalty between Armagh winning Ulster and the actual result. They have a lot going for them. They also lost the qf on penalties in 2022. They have the class.
We're 4 penalty shootouts away from back to back Ulsters and all ireland semis. Sicken yer fecking hole but we'd all 4 games won and managed to snap a draw from the jaws of victory every time.

Another narrative would be:

Derry were in control for most of the Ulster Final and had Rogers fisted attempt had gone over, for a 3pt lead, instead hitting the post in the 65 minute, Derry would've been home and hosed.

Galway were 6pts up going into injury time and Gleeson had two brain farts. Even with that Walsh(?) hit a cross field pass that was never on, had he taken it into the corner it was game over as well.
#10
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2024, 07:27:01 PMIs it not?
Source?

From Page 1:

If a Team is Disqualified or Retires
•    If a team is disqualified or retired during the course of the League Stage, its played Games shall still stand and its unplayed Games shall be awarded to the Opposing Teams

When Teams finish with equal points for Qualification for the Concluding Stages, the tie shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified:

(i) Where two Teams only are involved - the outcome of the meeting of the two Teams in the previous game in the Competition;

(ii) Scoring Difference (subtracting the total Scores Against from total Scores For);


(iii) Highest Total Score For;

(iv) Highest Total Goals For;

(v) A Play-Off

In the event that two teams or more finish with equal points, but have been affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or walkover, the tie shall be decided by the following means:

(i) Least number of Walkovers given.
(ii) Score Difference from the games in which only the teams involved, (teams tied on points), have played each other (subtracting the total Scores Against from the total Scores For)
(iii) Highest Total Score For, in which only the teams involved have played each other, and have finished equal in (ii)
(iv) Highest Total Goals For, in which only the teams involved have played each other, and have finished equal in (ii) & (iii)
(v) A Play-Off


The rules above are badly structured/written -  But all games count.

The only way the Clare results would be ruled out, is if they don't fulfil their final fixture.

The bit in bold is how the groups will be sorted with teams on level points.
#11
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2024, 05:39:44 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 02, 2024, 09:10:24 PMCork 4pts 4+
Donegal 2pts +5
Tyrone 2pts +7

Going to be an exciting finish to the group in 2 weeks. If Tyrone can beat Cork and stay within 2 points of Donegal's score (assuming they beat Clare) then we'll top the group.

Cork just have to Draw and they top the group

Donegal need a win and beat Tyrone's score by 1 and they'll take it on the top spot (assuming tyrone beat cork)

If the 3 finish level the score differences will be from the games between the 3.
Clare games won't count.


That's not true.
#12
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 02, 2024, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: Estimator on June 02, 2024, 06:39:00 PMAbsolute shambles of a performance.
Goals win games, that's 9 conceded and 0 scored in 3 Championship games.
People in the crowd still blaming Lynch despite the fact the ball is being turned over inside the opposition 45.
First two goals were criminal mistakes from McCloskey and Rogers.
Two weeks to the Westmeath game, wouldn't be surprised to see a few more defections.

A keeper has zero chance of saving a shot after scrambling back towards his own line

Had he remained on his line he still would've had zero chance of saving either of the first two goals.
#13
Absolute shambles of a performance.
Goals win games, that's 9 conceded and 0 scored in 3 Championship games.
People in the crowd still blaming Lynch despite the fact the ball is being turned over inside the opposition 45.
First two goals were criminal mistakes from McCloskey and Rogers.
Two weeks to the Westmeath game, wouldn't be surprised to see a few more defections.
#14
No Kelly, Finnerty or Comer for Galway, though Tierney and McDaid are back in the starting 15.
#15
As blatant a black card as you could ever see. And the ref gives a yellow!?!