The Many Faces of US Politics...

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whitey

Quote from: glens73 on June 05, 2020, 03:53:50 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 05, 2020, 03:42:37 PM
Quote from: glens73 on June 05, 2020, 03:25:45 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 05, 2020, 02:35:45 PM
Great commentary

https://jonathanturley.org/2020/06/05/mea-culpa-new-york-times-caves-to-protests-and-apologizes-for-posting-conservative-opinion/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Do you ever post anything constructive? Something that logically argues your views of the US political scene, rather than just tweets and articles.

Given that I'm a descendant from Captain Boycott, I think it's good to mix it up and share perspective from other sources

I'm not talking about perspective, I'm talking about your own opinion, not just endless retweets. I'd be interested in hearing why you think the way you do, even if I disagree with it.

I give my opinion all the time. It's just the last few days I have been sharing other stuff

J70

Quote from: Gmac on June 05, 2020, 04:47:28 PM
There really are 2 protests going on one is about George Floyd and police violence and the other is about trump , the question is do people let the protesters who are bandwagonBig iGeorge Floyd push them into voting for Biden or do they double down with trump . 6 monthxx Sc is a long time in politics.

We've had exactly five years of his circus freakshow dominating US politics, 3 1/2 of them with him in power.

Anyone who doesn't get it what he is and what he will bring at this point is a complete moron.

glens73

Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 05, 2020, 04:47:28 PM
There really are 2 protests going on one is about George Floyd and police violence and the other is about trump , the question is do people let the protesters who are bandwagonBig iGeorge Floyd push them into voting for Biden or do they double down with trump . 6 monthxx Sc is a long time in politics.

We've had exactly five years of his circus freakshow dominating US politics, 3 1/2 of them with him in power.

Anyone who doesn't get it what he is and what he will bring at this point is a complete moron.

That's a lot of morons - how do you reverse their thinking - lobotomy?

Gmac

Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 05, 2020, 04:47:28 PM
There really are 2 protests going on one is about George Floyd and police violence and the other is about trump , the question is do people let the protesters who are bandwagonBig iGeorge Floyd push them into voting for Biden or do they double down with trump . 6 monthxx Sc is a long time in politics.

We've had exactly five years of his circus freakshow dominating US politics, 3 1/2 of them with him in power.

Anyone who doesn't get it what he is and what he will bring at this point is a complete moron.
has there ever been a resistance by media and an opposition party like this ever before  24/7 ?

J70

Quote from: Gmac on June 05, 2020, 05:19:32 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 05, 2020, 04:47:28 PM
There really are 2 protests going on one is about George Floyd and police violence and the other is about trump , the question is do people let the protesters who are bandwagonBig iGeorge Floyd push them into voting for Biden or do they double down with trump . 6 monthxx Sc is a long time in politics.

We've had exactly five years of his circus freakshow dominating US politics, 3 1/2 of them with him in power.

Anyone who doesn't get it what he is and what he will bring at this point is a complete moron.
has there ever been a resistance by media and an opposition party like this ever before  24/7 ?

On the media - assuming for the sake of argument that what you say is true, has it ever been necessary before? In what way is it unjustified?
Opposition party - were you asleep from 2009-17? Merrick Garland, "you lie!", Ted Cruz's government shutdown, Benghazi, Tea Party, birthers, "biggest job is to make Obama a one-term president", "party of Hell No!" and on and on.

J70

Quote from: glens73 on June 05, 2020, 05:15:20 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 05, 2020, 04:47:28 PM
There really are 2 protests going on one is about George Floyd and police violence and the other is about trump , the question is do people let the protesters who are bandwagonBig iGeorge Floyd push them into voting for Biden or do they double down with trump . 6 monthxx Sc is a long time in politics.

We've had exactly five years of his circus freakshow dominating US politics, 3 1/2 of them with him in power.

Anyone who doesn't get it what he is and what he will bring at this point is a complete moron.

That's a lot of morons - how do you reverse their thinking - lobotomy?

A lot of them are reveling in his scorched earth presidency. As long it makes the libtards cry!

One would hope though that a sufficient amount of those turned off by Hillary and willing to give him a tentative vote last time out will be having buyers remorse. If their conscience found Hillary objectionable, I can't even imagine how they sleep at night having voted for him.

Christ even Senator Murkowski of Alaska, a Republican and staunch conservative, said publicly that she is not sure if she can vote for him this year.

Gmac

Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 05:23:26 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 05, 2020, 05:19:32 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 05, 2020, 04:47:28 PM
There really are 2 protests going on one is about George Floyd and police violence and the other is about trump , the question is do people let the protesters who are bandwagonBig iGeorge Floyd push them into voting for Biden or do they double down with trump . 6 monthxx Sc is a long time in politics.

We've had exactly five years of his circus freakshow dominating US politics, 3 1/2 of them with him in power.

Anyone who doesn't get it what he is and what he will bring at this point is a complete moron.
has there ever been a resistance by media and an opposition party like this ever before  24/7 ?

On the media - assuming for the sake of argument that what you say is true, has it ever been necessary before? In what way is it unjustified?
Opposition party - were you asleep from 2009-17? Merrick Garland, "you lie!", Ted Cruz's government shutdown, Benghazi, Tea Party, birthers, "biggest job is to make Obama a one-term president", "party of Hell No!" and on and on.
the objective was not to try to remove the democratically elected president during his term though was it .

J70

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Quote from: Gmac on June 05, 2020, 05:31:00 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 05:23:26 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 05, 2020, 05:19:32 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 05, 2020, 04:47:28 PM
There really are 2 protests going on one is about George Floyd and police violence and the other is about trump , the question is do people let the protesters who are bandwagonBig iGeorge Floyd push them into voting for Biden or do they double down with trump . 6 monthxx Sc is a long time in politics.

We've had exactly five years of his circus freakshow dominating US politics, 3 1/2 of them with him in power.

Anyone who doesn't get it what he is and what he will bring at this point is a complete moron.
has there ever been a resistance by media and an opposition party like this ever before  24/7 ?

On the media - assuming for the sake of argument that what you say is true, has it ever been necessary before? In what way is it unjustified?
Opposition party - were you asleep from 2009-17? Merrick Garland, "you lie!", Ted Cruz's government shutdown, Benghazi, Tea Party, birthers, "biggest job is to make Obama a one-term president", "party of Hell No!" and on and on.
the objective was not to try to remove the democratically elected president during his term though was it .

Every president has been democratically elected. Luckily for the country, most of them haven't behaved so appallingly that impeachment was ever seriously considered, nevermind put into action. There were various mentions of impeachment by GOP pols when Obama was president, but he didn't do anything that would have made it even a remote possibility that they would actually try.

Trump was probably lucky that it didn't happen sooner. Pelosi rules her caucus with an iron fist and didn't want the political circus of an impeachment, but even she had to concede to the inevitable once the Ukraine scandal came to light.

And oversight of the Executive Branch is one of the duties and responsibilities of Congress and part of why THEY are elected. It would have been a dereliction of their duty had they not gone forward with it.

dec

The brave men and women of the LAPD take out a key operative of the BLM/AntiFa/Soros/Democrat/rioter/looter cabal


sid waddell

Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 05:26:28 PM
Quote from: glens73 on June 05, 2020, 05:15:20 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 05, 2020, 04:47:28 PM
There really are 2 protests going on one is about George Floyd and police violence and the other is about trump , the question is do people let the protesters who are bandwagonBig iGeorge Floyd push them into voting for Biden or do they double down with trump . 6 monthxx Sc is a long time in politics.

We've had exactly five years of his circus freakshow dominating US politics, 3 1/2 of them with him in power.

Anyone who doesn't get it what he is and what he will bring at this point is a complete moron.

That's a lot of morons - how do you reverse their thinking - lobotomy?

A lot of them are reveling in his scorched earth presidency. As long it makes the libtards cry!

One would hope though that a sufficient amount of those turned off by Hillary and willing to give him a tentative vote last time out will be having buyers remorse. If their conscience found Hillary objectionable, I can't even imagine how they sleep at night having voted for him.

Christ even Senator Murkowski of Alaska, a Republican and staunch conservative, said publicly that she is not sure if she can vote for him this year.

We've had enough of these cowardly "this is very troubling" or "this is deeply concerning" weasel words from Republicans like Murkowski, Collins, Flake, Sasse, Ryan etc.

What is needed is real political action.

Amash, maybe McCain before him and to a much lesser extent Romney, are the only Republicans who can have anything even resembling a clear conscience in that regard.

Really, what is needed is resignation from the Republican party and repudiation of it. Only Amash has done that.

The rest of the party has been Vichy-like in its collaborationism - but then again, one could very reasonably say they weren't un-Vichy like before that anyway.



sid waddell

It sure is

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The idea that you can't call someone a Nazi until/unless they've killed 6 million people is kinda silly when you stop to think about it.

J70

Quote from: sid waddell on June 05, 2020, 06:27:09 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 05:26:28 PM
Quote from: glens73 on June 05, 2020, 05:15:20 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 05, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 05, 2020, 04:47:28 PM
There really are 2 protests going on one is about George Floyd and police violence and the other is about trump , the question is do people let the protesters who are bandwagonBig iGeorge Floyd push them into voting for Biden or do they double down with trump . 6 monthxx Sc is a long time in politics.

We've had exactly five years of his circus freakshow dominating US politics, 3 1/2 of them with him in power.

Anyone who doesn't get it what he is and what he will bring at this point is a complete moron.

That's a lot of morons - how do you reverse their thinking - lobotomy?

A lot of them are reveling in his scorched earth presidency. As long it makes the libtards cry!

One would hope though that a sufficient amount of those turned off by Hillary and willing to give him a tentative vote last time out will be having buyers remorse. If their conscience found Hillary objectionable, I can't even imagine how they sleep at night having voted for him.

Christ even Senator Murkowski of Alaska, a Republican and staunch conservative, said publicly that she is not sure if she can vote for him this year.

We've had enough of these cowardly "this is very troubling" or "this is deeply concerning" weasel words from Republicans like Murkowski, Collins, Flake, Sasse, Ryan etc.

What is needed is real political action.

Amash, maybe McCain before him and to a much lesser extent Romney, are the only Republicans who can have anything even resembling a clear conscience in that regard.

Really, what is needed is resignation from the Republican party and repudiation of it. Only Amash has done that.

The rest of the party has been Vichy-like in its collaborationism - but then again, one could very reasonably say they weren't un-Vichy like before that anyway.

They're scared out of their wits because if they don't prostrate themselves in front of the Dear Leader, they will be primaried by someone who will.

That, and the fact that quite a few of them are true believers in the bullshit Trump is selling anyway.

Jeepers Creepers

Trump said today live on tv that George Floyd will be looking down excited by the rise in employment figures.

glens73

Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 05, 2020, 07:28:21 PM
Trump said today live on tv that George Floyd will be looking down excited by the rise in employment figures.

I just saw that on channel 4 news, he's unhinged. How could any rational person ever say something like that? And before anyone says I know he's not but how do so many people vote for him, scary place.