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Milltown Row2

Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 08, 2020, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:27:20 PM
If teachers are doing their job properly they should have nothing to fear come inspection time.
Who decides what "properly" is?
The inspectorate. Are there no guidelines against which you are judged? Our business is inspected against a set of guidelines and requirements so we know what "properly" means.

The missus says the pay rise for her isn't worth the hassle of an inspection!

But if she's doing her job properly she shouldn't be worrying
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2020, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 08, 2020, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:27:20 PM
If teachers are doing their job properly they should have nothing to fear come inspection time.
Who decides what "properly" is?
The inspectorate. Are there no guidelines against which you are judged? Our business is inspected against a set of guidelines and requirements so we know what "properly" means.

The missus says the pay rise for her isn't worth the hassle of an inspection!

But if she's doing her job properly she shouldn't be worrying
Correct.

delgany

Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 08, 2020, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:27:20 PM
If teachers are doing their job properly they should have nothing to fear come inspection time.
Who decides what "properly" is?
The inspectorate. Are there no guidelines against which you are judged? Our business is inspected against a set of guidelines and requirements so we know what "properly" means.

The missus says the pay rise for her isn't worth the hassle of an inspection!

Certainly there are guidelines.  Inspectors role is to quality assure that schools are on a cycle of continuous self improvement , that actually brings about measured improvement.
The way the system works at present is a false economy - everyone bursts themselves for two weeks previous to visit . A streamlined visit in a new era will see inspectors as a critical friend , who visits on a more regular basis.
If teachers cant deal with that , then they should move on to something else.

marty34

Quote from: delgany on April 08, 2020, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 08, 2020, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:27:20 PM
If teachers are doing their job properly they should have nothing to fear come inspection time.
Who decides what "properly" is?
The inspectorate. Are there no guidelines against which you are judged? Our business is inspected against a set of guidelines and requirements so we know what "properly" means.

The missus says the pay rise for her isn't worth the hassle of an inspection!

Certainly there are guidelines.  Inspectors role is to quality assure that schools are on a cycle of continuous self improvement , that actually brings about measured improvement.
The way the system works at present is a false economy - everyone bursts themselves for two weeks previous to visit . A streamlined visit in a new era will see inspectors as a critical friend , who visits on a more regular basis.
If teachers cant deal with that , then they should move on to something else.

True - we'll be with you on Tuesday 16th at 9am. For the 2/3 weeks before, the lights are on until 10pm every night.

theticklemister

In Liverpool we're a hub school. This means a lot of the other primary schools in the area have closed down and we act as the main school for this area.

Previously, we were open 9-4 for previous two weeks and had 30 kids (including kids from other schools, we have a total of 600 in the primary school). This week we are open from 7-7 and we had 12 kids in Mon-Wed

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: marty34 on April 08, 2020, 11:23:08 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 08, 2020, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 08, 2020, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:27:20 PM
If teachers are doing their job properly they should have nothing to fear come inspection time.
Who decides what "properly" is?
The inspectorate. Are there no guidelines against which you are judged? Our business is inspected against a set of guidelines and requirements so we know what "properly" means.

The missus says the pay rise for her isn't worth the hassle of an inspection!

Certainly there are guidelines.  Inspectors role is to quality assure that schools are on a cycle of continuous self improvement , that actually brings about measured improvement.
The way the system works at present is a false economy - everyone bursts themselves for two weeks previous to visit . A streamlined visit in a new era will see inspectors as a critical friend , who visits on a more regular basis.
If teachers cant deal with that , then they should move on to something else.

True - we'll be with you on Tuesday 16th at 9am. For the 2/3 weeks before, the lights are on until 10pm every night.

Yep - inspections should be - "good morning, we're here to do some inspections of whatever classes are available".

Its the only industry in the world where quality control is done with 3 weeks notice.
i usse an speelchekor

Estimator

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on April 09, 2020, 02:45:15 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 08, 2020, 11:23:08 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 08, 2020, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 08, 2020, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:27:20 PM
If teachers are doing their job properly they should have nothing to fear come inspection time.
Who decides what "properly" is?
The inspectorate. Are there no guidelines against which you are judged? Our business is inspected against a set of guidelines and requirements so we know what "properly" means.

The missus says the pay rise for her isn't worth the hassle of an inspection!

Certainly there are guidelines.  Inspectors role is to quality assure that schools are on a cycle of continuous self improvement , that actually brings about measured improvement.
The way the system works at present is a false economy - everyone bursts themselves for two weeks previous to visit . A streamlined visit in a new era will see inspectors as a critical friend , who visits on a more regular basis.
If teachers cant deal with that , then they should move on to something else.

True - we'll be with you on Tuesday 16th at 9am. For the 2/3 weeks before, the lights are on until 10pm every night.

Yep - inspections should be - "good morning, we're here to do some inspections of whatever classes are available".

Its the only industry in the world where quality control is done with 3 weeks notice.

Inspections operate differently in England. The school will receive a phone call from Ofsted before 2pm to let them know that they'll be in the school for the next two days. The call cannot happen on Thursday or Friday, as inspections last for two consecutive days and the weekend cannot be used for prep time. Staff have to be 'inspection ready'. One of the first questions and inspector will ask the kids is 'are lessons normally like this?'  Or 'tell me about a normal lesson'
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mrdeeds

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on April 09, 2020, 02:45:15 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 08, 2020, 11:23:08 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 08, 2020, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 08, 2020, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:27:20 PM
If teachers are doing their job properly they should have nothing to fear come inspection time.
Who decides what "properly" is?
The inspectorate. Are there no guidelines against which you are judged? Our business is inspected against a set of guidelines and requirements so we know what "properly" means.

The missus says the pay rise for her isn't worth the hassle of an inspection!

Certainly there are guidelines.  Inspectors role is to quality assure that schools are on a cycle of continuous self improvement , that actually brings about measured improvement.
The way the system works at present is a false economy - everyone bursts themselves for two weeks previous to visit . A streamlined visit in a new era will see inspectors as a critical friend , who visits on a more regular basis.
If teachers cant deal with that , then they should move on to something else.

True - we'll be with you on Tuesday 16th at 9am. For the 2/3 weeks before, the lights are on until 10pm every night.

Yep - inspections should be - "good morning, we're here to do some inspections of whatever classes are available".

Its the only industry in the world where quality control is done with 3 weeks notice.

Sure there are drive by inspections all the time. Departmental and wholeschool also.

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: mrdeeds on April 09, 2020, 06:19:29 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on April 09, 2020, 02:45:15 PM
Yep - inspections should be - "good morning, we're here to do some inspections of whatever classes are available".

Its the only industry in the world where quality control is done with 3 weeks notice.

Sure there are drive by inspections all the time. Departmental and wholeschool also.

Why aren't they the only kind of inspections?

An "inspection" with a 2-3 week notice period is not a quality inspection. No one should be fooled into thinking it is.
i usse an speelchekor

marty34

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on April 09, 2020, 06:30:31 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 09, 2020, 06:19:29 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on April 09, 2020, 02:45:15 PM
Yep - inspections should be - "good morning, we're here to do some inspections of whatever classes are available".

Its the only industry in the world where quality control is done with 3 weeks notice.

Sure there are drive by inspections all the time. Departmental and wholeschool also.

Why aren't they the only kind of inspections?

An "inspection" with a 2-3 week notice period is not a quality inspection. No one should be fooled into thinking it is.

Difference north and south?

delgany

Quote from: marty34 on April 09, 2020, 06:50:05 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on April 09, 2020, 06:30:31 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 09, 2020, 06:19:29 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on April 09, 2020, 02:45:15 PM
Yep - inspections should be - "good morning, we're here to do some inspections of whatever classes are available".

Its the only industry in the world where quality control is done with 3 weeks notice.

Sure there are drive by inspections all the time. Departmental and wholeschool also.

Why aren't they the only kind of inspections?

An "inspection" with a 2-3 week notice period is not a quality inspection. No one should be fooled into thinking it is.

Difference north and south?

There are three types in North
1. A focused inspection between 2 and 4 days in duration with up to 3  inspectors , with 2 weeks notification, with 1 pre visit.  No.of days depends on size of school.
2.Sustaining improvement inspection  1 or 2 days,  2 inspectors,  two days notice.
3. Unannounced Inspection - shit has hit the fan -

Has school inspection actually started in South?

mrdeeds

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on April 09, 2020, 06:30:31 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 09, 2020, 06:19:29 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on April 09, 2020, 02:45:15 PM
Yep - inspections should be - "good morning, we're here to do some inspections of whatever classes are available".

Its the only industry in the world where quality control is done with 3 weeks notice.

Sure there are drive by inspections all the time. Departmental and wholeschool also.

Why aren't they the only kind of inspections?

An "inspection" with a 2-3 week notice period is not a quality inspection. No one should be fooled into thinking it is.

A drive by inspection gives no notice.

theticklemister

Quote from: Estimator on April 09, 2020, 03:12:03 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on April 09, 2020, 02:45:15 PM
Quote from: marty34 on April 08, 2020, 11:23:08 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 08, 2020, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 08, 2020, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:27:20 PM
If teachers are doing their job properly they should have nothing to fear come inspection time.
Who decides what "properly" is?
The inspectorate. Are there no guidelines against which you are judged? Our business is inspected against a set of guidelines and requirements so we know what "properly" means.

The missus says the pay rise for her isn't worth the hassle of an inspection!

Certainly there are guidelines.  Inspectors role is to quality assure that schools are on a cycle of continuous self improvement , that actually brings about measured improvement.
The way the system works at present is a false economy - everyone bursts themselves for two weeks previous to visit . A streamlined visit in a new era will see inspectors as a critical friend , who visits on a more regular basis.
If teachers cant deal with that , then they should move on to something else.

True - we'll be with you on Tuesday 16th at 9am. For the 2/3 weeks before, the lights are on until 10pm every night.

Yep - inspections should be - "good morning, we're here to do some inspections of whatever classes are available".

Its the only industry in the world where quality control is done with 3 weeks notice.

Inspections operate differently in England. The school will receive a phone call from Ofsted before 2pm to let them know that they'll be in the school for the next two days. The call cannot happen on Thursday or Friday, as inspections last for two consecutive days and the weekend cannot be used for prep time. Staff have to be 'inspection ready'. One of the first questions and inspector will ask the kids is 'are lessons normally like this?'  Or 'tell me about a normal lesson'

Last time I marked a science , Geography or history book 😂

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Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

ONeill

Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:50:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2020, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 08, 2020, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 08, 2020, 09:27:20 PM
If teachers are doing their job properly they should have nothing to fear come inspection time.
Who decides what "properly" is?
The inspectorate. Are there no guidelines against which you are judged? Our business is inspected against a set of guidelines and requirements so we know what "properly" means.

The missus says the pay rise for her isn't worth the hassle of an inspection!

But if she's doing her job properly she shouldn't be worrying
Correct.

Baloney bed frosty this weekend after she sees this.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.