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Jinxy, come on.
I'm actually on your side here.

He threw the ball into the net.
He knew he was taking a chance.
Authorities did nothing about it.
He got away with it.
Game over.

Henry did the same and both Ireland and Louth better get over it.

There's no more to it.

to carry on from spuds post, the most shocking moment in gaa history

TBH, very "politically correct" plaque there! Please read the part were it says Michael Hogan and 12 spectators were "tragically killed"!! Perhaps we could have reworded with "brutally murdered"??

Could not agree more. That plaque, to someone who didn't know about the history would make you think it was as a result of an accident. Train crash on the way, or a crush in the crowd maybe. Have the balls to call it what it was. Murder.

Well said

did wasps not dump mc closkey did john ever kick a ball

I think he was on a one year contract and that's over now ... as for kicking a ball, well unless he's going to play that's hardly relevant as a coach? Joe wasn't playing for Galway this year either.

I'd be amazed if Joe ended up in Cavan.
I think you'll see Joe take a year out, John may be mentioned in connection with Cavan or Fermanagh.
I wonder if Derry would look for Joe though? 

Anyone who compares what Joe Sheridan did to what Thierry Henry did has no credibility.

Jinxy I have sympathy for Joe Sheridan, but I disagree with you.

I see no real difference between the two.
Both chanced their arm and both got away with it.
Personally I don't think either have anything to answer for - but there's no difference Jinxy

I think Joe is foolish to give an interview - in fact when I saw it this morning my first reaction was what was the Tribune doing running a month old story?

He'd have been better say nothing.

Also, dragging this on does Louth more harm than good and more harm to Louth then to Meath.

[Kernan took on the task of managing one of the stronger counties who had real aspirations this year.]

Agreed,
Kernan took on the task of managing one of the stronger counties who had real aspirations this year.
I know they were a bit unlucky with injuries but should not use this as an excuse.

Losing to Sligo after a replay is no disaster, but losing at home to Wexford was.
Anyone that starts any new job needs to make an impression. A poor enough league and a disaster of a championship is enough justification for him to go.

No he didn't.  He took on Galway. The same Galway that have failed to deliver in almost 10 years. The same Galway that have consoled themselves with talk like "that great game in the rain against Kerry" instead of facing up to the fact that they are not even close to being a stong county.
Every year Galway are spoken about as contenders for an AI. Apart from the obvious benefit that being in Connacht gives them, there's nothing to show that they deserve this tag.
Time to wake up Galway people. Youse have a lot of hard work to do to get back to the top table.

I think its time for you to wake up and realize that Joe Kernan is not a good manager. There is no excuse for the performances of Galway this year. If Kernan was the God you Nordie lads always proclaim him to be then he would have improved Galway.

He is no Micko, Paidi or even Liam Kearns, thats for sure. Those lads at least leave counties in a better position than when they got them. It look like Kernan just takes teams backwards once he is out of his Armagh comfort zone.....and he's a quitter to boot !

That's bollx

He's certainly a good manager with a proven track record.
One poor season in Galway doesn't tear that up.

[Kernan took on the task of managing one of the stronger counties who had real aspirations this year.]

Agreed,
Kernan took on the task of managing one of the stronger counties who had real aspirations this year.
I know they were a bit unlucky with injuries but should not use this as an excuse.

Losing to Sligo after a replay is no disaster, but losing at home to Wexford was.
Anyone that starts any new job needs to make an impression. A poor enough league and a disaster of a championship is enough justification for him to go.

No he didn't.  He took on Galway. The same Galway that have failed to deliver in almost 10 years. The same Galway that have consoled themselves with talk like "that great game in the rain against Kerry" instead of facing up to the fact that they are not even close to being a stong county.
Every year Galway are spoken about as contenders for an AI. Apart from the obvious benefit that being in Connacht gives them, there's nothing to show that they deserve this tag.
Time to wake up Galway people. Youse have a lot of hard work to do to get back to the top table.

That's why I think a 2 year plan actually made sense!

Considering your last post was an attack on Mike McGurn is this another veiled personal attack 'the goal was on'?
I'd consider it a mark of our game that a GAA coach would be in demand by a team like Wasps.

John McCloskey has trained teams to win All Ireland club titles with Cross, Ulster titles, NFL's and an All Ireland with Armagh and an NFL with Derry - perhaps one of the most successful GAA trainers in Ireland - might he not actually have a point?

Many county teams have two trainers - and S&C and a Football coach/trainer. In his case Armagh did, Derry did and I can think of at least 4 Ulster counties off the top of my head and Kerry and Cork who had/have 2 'trainers' involved in their preparation.
Whether you think that's excessive or not is irrelevant - that's the norm in most counties. So he is talking sense there.

Also, when Joe took over I was always under the impression it was a 2 year deal.

I agree that you need to show some improvement in year 1 - no argument there - but I would have thought for a county like Galway to think they can win an AI in one year is nonsense, and a 2 year deal would have made perfect sense. They weren't exactly racking up provincial titles in the past decade!

WRT you dig at him 'touting for work' I'd imagine with his, Joe's experience and success rate a county could do worse than have the two of those involved.

No one in Galway was expecting an All-Ireland in year one lets be clear about this to start with. If he achieved any of the following we would  of being very happy

* brought in some new players that he could of developed further in year 2
* improved the players that were already in the panel
* beat a team outside of connaught

Instead what we got was

* 75% of the panel went backwards
* no new players brought in
* a distinct lack of team work
* couldn't keep the best 30 players on the panel

Its a bit much of John McCloskey to come out in the press complaining about the county board not coughing up the money, does he realise that we are in the middle of a recession ?? In fairness though McCloskey only got involved with Galway in June of this year, I'm not sure why he would want his name associated with what happened this  year.

For me the whole thing smells of "The Emperor's New Clothes", during the league we were told wait until the championship, now their saying wait until year 2 ... yea right ...

I don't disagree with most of that.

To me it seemed not that he was arguing about 'money' but rather he was arguing about the difference in opinion over 'professional standards' (2 trainers being the case in point here).

I think Joe made a poor gamble going on his own and sent out the SOS for McCloskey after the League realizing he had made a mistake to try and salvage something, perhaps had McCloskey been with him earlier in the year Galway might have been better prepared - but I suspect it would have been too late anyway.

Considering your last post was an attack on Mike McGurn is this another veiled personal attack 'the goal was on'?
I'd consider it a mark of our game that a GAA coach would be in demand by a team like Wasps.

John McCloskey has trained teams to win All Ireland club titles with Cross, Ulster titles, NFL's and an All Ireland with Armagh and an NFL with Derry - perhaps one of the most successful GAA trainers in Ireland - might he not actually have a point?

Many county teams have two trainers - and S&C and a Football coach/trainer. In his case Armagh did, Derry did and I can think of at least 4 Ulster counties off the top of my head and Kerry and Cork who had/have 2 'trainers' involved in their preparation.
Whether you think that's excessive or not is irrelevant - that's the norm in most counties. So he is talking sense there.

Also, when Joe took over I was always under the impression it was a 2 year deal.

I agree that you need to show some improvement in year 1 - no argument there - but I would have thought for a county like Galway to think they can win an AI in one year is nonsense, and a 2 year deal would have made perfect sense. They weren't exactly racking up provincial titles in the past decade!

WRT you dig at him 'touting for work' I'd imagine with his, Joe's experience and success rate a county could do worse than have the two of those involved.

Talking about revenue commissioners on TV3 now.

A misunderstanding about where tax liability lies is emerging in my view - would it not be the the employer ie gaa county boards rather than employee ie the manager who is responsible for tax and failure to deduct PRSI etc ?

Absolutely correct!

Yes, CB's can basically do what they want with money - it's up to the manager, coach etc to declare it

I think that's great for Mayo football

Some home truths being spoken there. Get it all out in the open, a bit of abuse and bloodletting will be good for Mayo in the long run.

Better have it all out in the open than behind the door.

Now would be a good time to look for a move to another county while the price is highest

Maybe Banty can get enough money in for next year to team up Grimley and Joe again

Cork looking for replay of 1993 Football final where Tony Davis was sent off for shouldering a Derry player.

With his elbow, while Cahallane knocked Gormleys teeth out

Yes he is, unofficially though as the CB didn't want him as a club manager and county minor manager.

But he is the manager, although maybe not in name anymore. He just gives instructions from behind the dug out in Ballyhaise instead of the sideline,

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Haha, is he Cavan's first Director of Football 

No.

That's Bart McEnroe

ha ha ... wudn't expect a Monaghan man to have much sympathy for him.

I agree he should have taken the decision on the chin, but if the motivation is as I think it was ... then it's just childish games by Cassidy.

Either way ... Derry are in a bad state.