Monaghan v Down USFC Sat April 30th

[Armagh18]

The problem goes deeper than the manager.

Pretty embarrassing for Down. I remember reading some down posters last year saying they would consolidate their place in division 2 with relative ease and I thought the oul Down cockiness is alive and well. Is there sort of entitlement mentality within down? McCorry and Tally both chased and bringing in James for a second stint at such a late stage reeked of desperation. How many from the All Ireland club champions are on the Down panel now?

No one can take away the 60s and the 90s from Down  But there is really nothing ever in between the highs.  If wee James cant inspire the current crop then the Tailteann cup could be a blessing in disguise for them for the next few years as they rebuild out of the spotlight... It is a shame that they have let it get to this.  Conor Laverty needs given a 5 year full time role in time to rebuild from top to bottom.

Same in Meath and Galway. Winning a provincial title doesn't mean as much as it would to other counties.

I'd say either one of those would be glad to win a provincial because they're miles off an All Ireland. Meath especially, how long is it from the won one? (Bar that robbery in 2010)

Both more chance of a provincial than Armagh this year.

Our ladies firm favourites for an ulster!

[Main Street]

Anything but a Monaghan win would be a big surprise but Down are going in with zero expectation and Monaghan are often more comfortable cast in the role of underdogs where their backs are to the wall. I'd expect Monaghan to win by 4 or 5 points.

Down were big enough underdogs against Monaghan in 2017 and won, later though Monaghan beat them handy in the 2nd half  in the qualifiers.

[seafoid]

Monaghan have a good few miles on the clock at this stage. Another Houdini act in Division 1 but how far will they go this time ?

[Mourne Red]

Anything but a Monaghan win would be a big surprise but Down are going in with zero expectation and Monaghan are often more comfortable cast in the role of underdogs where their backs are to the wall. I'd expect Monaghan to win by 4 or 5 points.

Down were big enough underdogs against Monaghan in 2017 and won, later though Monaghan beat them handy in the 2nd half  in the qualifiers.

That 2017 Down team weren't on the piss from St Paddy's Day till their Ulster Championship game though

[Walter Cronc]

Is this game on BBC NI??

[grounded]

Is this game on BBC NI??

No, deferred highlights.

Down +8   even money. Surely we can beat that handicap.

[Nanderson]

Is this game on BBC NI??

No. Sky sports. Highlights online after I think

[Main Street]

Is this game on BBC NI??

No. Sky sports. Highlights online after I think

GAAGO also

[Mourne Red]

Sky commentary team would put you too f**king sleep

[thewobbler]

So would this game.

Championship intensity? Not here.

[skeog]

Need to be plus 28 way its going pity the souls sitting on terrace shivering and wet.Down are like a intermediate club team.

[straightred]

Need to be plus 28 way its going pity the souls sitting on terrace shivering and wet.Down are like a intermediate club team.

They got 1-1 to close the half and only go in 0-12 to 1-4 down. Could have been double that though.

[Schkite]

Mad that Monaghan only 5 points up after that half, the heads must have switched off for half time a few minutes early

[Dreadnought]

Down right back in this despite not doing much. Monaghan have a habit of leering other teams stay in the game in Ulster last few years

[befair]

No idea why Sky chose this game to televise; everyone knew it was going to be a walkover; Wexford and Dublin might be just as bad.