Power Rankings

[seafoid]

The Paddy Power Ranking

Dublin 13/8
Kerry 5/2
Derry 11/2
Galway 9/1
Mayo 10/1
Armagh 20/1
Donegal 22/1
Tyrone 25/1
Roscommon 80/1
Cork 100/1
Monaghan 100/1

I'm not sure that Galway/Mayo are hugely better than Armagh/Donegal/Tyrone but one of them will be Connacht champions and that has seeding advantages.

Wouldn't totally rule out Roscommon out. Won Connacht in 2017 and 2019 off the back of Division one relegation.

Mayo would be my bet, but the Rossies have forwards to trouble anyone.

The Rossies will have a big Connacht Championship as per usual.

Then disappear once the big boy stuff starts come All Ireland stage.

"Watch out
They'll tear your insides out"

Davy Burke has been planning for the last 9 months.
He is a really good coach. He practices scenarios over and over.

The odds reflect information that the power ranking does not. 

[SouthOfThe Bann]

The Paddy Power Ranking

Dublin 13/8
Kerry 5/2
Derry 11/2
Galway 9/1
Mayo 10/1
Armagh 20/1
Donegal 22/1
Tyrone 25/1
Roscommon 80/1
Cork 100/1
Monaghan 100/1

I'm not sure that Galway/Mayo are hugely better than Armagh/Donegal/Tyrone but one of them will be Connacht champions and that has seeding advantages.

Wouldn't totally rule out Roscommon out. Won Connacht in 2017 and 2019 off the back of Division one relegation.

Mayo would be my bet, but the Rossies have forwards to trouble anyone.

The Rossies will have a big Connacht Championship as per usual.

Then disappear once the big boy stuff starts come All Ireland stage.

"Watch out
They'll tear your insides out"

Davy Burke has been planning for the last 9 months.
He is a really good coach. He practices scenarios over and over.

The odds reflect information that the power ranking does not. 

If they get to a semi final I will eat my words.

Whats stopping them from making the next step; they certainly have the forwards to do so.

[seafoid]

The Paddy Power Ranking

Dublin 13/8
Kerry 5/2
Derry 11/2
Galway 9/1
Mayo 10/1
Armagh 20/1
Donegal 22/1
Tyrone 25/1
Roscommon 80/1
Cork 100/1
Monaghan 100/1

I'm not sure that Galway/Mayo are hugely better than Armagh/Donegal/Tyrone but one of them will be Connacht champions and that has seeding advantages.

Wouldn't totally rule out Roscommon out. Won Connacht in 2017 and 2019 off the back of Division one relegation.

Mayo would be my bet, but the Rossies have forwards to trouble anyone.

The Rossies will have a big Connacht Championship as per usual.

Then disappear once the big boy stuff starts come All Ireland stage.

"Watch out
They'll tear your insides out"

Davy Burke has been planning for the last 9 months.
He is a really good coach. He practices scenarios over and over.

The odds reflect information that the power ranking does not. 

If they get to a semi final I will eat my words.

Whats stopping them from making the next step; they certainly have the forwards to do so.

Small margins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUXCHlZ8ZPc

[SouthOfThe Bann]

The Paddy Power Ranking

Dublin 13/8
Kerry 5/2
Derry 11/2
Galway 9/1
Mayo 10/1
Armagh 20/1
Donegal 22/1
Tyrone 25/1
Roscommon 80/1
Cork 100/1
Monaghan 100/1

I'm not sure that Galway/Mayo are hugely better than Armagh/Donegal/Tyrone but one of them will be Connacht champions and that has seeding advantages.

Wouldn't totally rule out Roscommon out. Won Connacht in 2017 and 2019 off the back of Division one relegation.

Mayo would be my bet, but the Rossies have forwards to trouble anyone.

The Rossies will have a big Connacht Championship as per usual.

Then disappear once the big boy stuff starts come All Ireland stage.

"Watch out
They'll tear your insides out"

Davy Burke has been planning for the last 9 months.
He is a really good coach. He practices scenarios over and over.

The odds reflect information that the power ranking does not. 

If they get to a semi final I will eat my words.

Whats stopping them from making the next step; they certainly have the forwards to do so.

Small margins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUXCHlZ8ZPc

Only an excuse.

What about the Cork game?

or Clare in 2022

[imtommygunn]

They're not a top four team is what's stopping them getting to a semi final. They are a decent side tbf to them but just not quite that level. It's not a failure.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

They're not a top four team is what's stopping them getting to a semi final. They are a decent side tbf to them but just not quite that level. It's not a failure.

Would you say Monaghan are a top 4 team though? or even Tipperary.

Both have made 2 semis finals in recent years albeit one of Tipps had an astrix.

[imtommygunn]

Monaghan aren't quite top four but they'd Beggan and McManus there and with McManus especially they always had a chance. They were (not are mind you) closer to top four than Roscommon ever were tbh.

It also depends on your draw but it isn't a failure for Roscommon to not get to a semi final. They're top 8ish. It would take quite a run of luck to get there. It just reads that they're a failure when I don't think they are at all.

I can't recall exactly who Tipp beat to get there for them to merit an asterix...

[JoG2]

The Paddy Power Ranking

Dublin 13/8
Kerry 5/2
Derry 11/2
Galway 9/1
Mayo 10/1
Armagh 20/1
Donegal 22/1
Tyrone 25/1
Roscommon 80/1
Cork 100/1
Monaghan 100/1

I'm not sure that Galway/Mayo are hugely better than Armagh/Donegal/Tyrone but one of them will be Connacht champions and that has seeding advantages.

Wouldn't totally rule out Roscommon out. Won Connacht in 2017 and 2019 off the back of Division one relegation.

Mayo would be my bet, but the Rossies have forwards to trouble anyone.

The Rossies will have a big Connacht Championship as per usual.

Then disappear once the big boy stuff starts come All Ireland stage.

"Watch out
They'll tear your insides out"

Davy Burke has been planning for the last 9 months.
He is a really good coach. He practices scenarios over and over.

The odds reflect information that the power ranking does not. 

If they get to a semi final I will eat my words.

Whats stopping them from making the next step; they certainly have the forwards to do so.

Small margins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUXCHlZ8ZPc

Only an excuse.

What about the Cork game?

or Clare in 2022

They're not a top four team is what's stopping them getting to a semi final. They are a decent side tbf to them but just not quite that level. It's not a failure.

Would you say Monaghan are a top 4 team though? or even Tipperary.

Both have made 2 semis finals in recent years albeit one of Tipps had an astrix.

Roscommon should reach out to Cavan for a few pointers

[SouthOfThe Bann]

The Paddy Power Ranking

Dublin 13/8
Kerry 5/2
Derry 11/2
Galway 9/1
Mayo 10/1
Armagh 20/1
Donegal 22/1
Tyrone 25/1
Roscommon 80/1
Cork 100/1
Monaghan 100/1

I'm not sure that Galway/Mayo are hugely better than Armagh/Donegal/Tyrone but one of them will be Connacht champions and that has seeding advantages.

Wouldn't totally rule out Roscommon out. Won Connacht in 2017 and 2019 off the back of Division one relegation.

Mayo would be my bet, but the Rossies have forwards to trouble anyone.

The Rossies will have a big Connacht Championship as per usual.

Then disappear once the big boy stuff starts come All Ireland stage.

"Watch out
They'll tear your insides out"

Davy Burke has been planning for the last 9 months.
He is a really good coach. He practices scenarios over and over.

The odds reflect information that the power ranking does not. 

If they get to a semi final I will eat my words.

Whats stopping them from making the next step; they certainly have the forwards to do so.

Small margins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUXCHlZ8ZPc

Only an excuse.

What about the Cork game?

or Clare in 2022

They're not a top four team is what's stopping them getting to a semi final. They are a decent side tbf to them but just not quite that level. It's not a failure.

Would you say Monaghan are a top 4 team though? or even Tipperary.

Both have made 2 semis finals in recent years albeit one of Tipps had an astrix.

Roscommon should reach out to Cavan for a few pointers

Trust me I know we are a lot worse than the Rossies; but theres no hype about us.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Monaghan aren't quite top four but they'd Beggan and McManus there and with McManus especially they always had a chance. They were (not are mind you) closer to top four than Roscommon ever were tbh.

It also depends on your draw but it isn't a failure for Roscommon to not get to a semi final. They're top 8ish. It would take quite a run of luck to get there. It just reads that they're a failure when I don't think they are at all.

I can't recall exactly who Tipp beat to get there for them to merit an asterix...

Covid year meant it was easier to get there.

They beat Galway in the quarter finals in 2016 which was a very impressive result and in the manner they did it too.

[imtommygunn]

Ah yes covid year.

Basically for roscommon, and anyone else, to get to the semi final they need to avoid derry, dublin and kerry in any knock out match. They then probably need to meet someone of comparable level in the knockout to get through. Tyrone, Mayo, Galway, possibly Donegal and Armagh would likely be too much.

[Rossfan]

Have we begun the slide as our early to mid 2011 to 16 Minor/u21 silver generation reach retirement age?
That group won Connachts at the 3 Grades but never quite cut it at AI level.
Next year could see us without a Smith, Daly or Murtagh so it could be back down among the small Counties with populations of under 100k or the hurley Counties.

But let's have one last cut at it Davy....

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Have we begun the slide as our early to mid 2011 to 16 Minor/u21 silver generation reach retirement age?
That group won Connachts at the 3 Grades but never quite cut it at AI level.
Next year could see us without a Smith, Daly or Murtagh so it could be back down among the small Counties with populations of under 100k or the hurley Counties.

But let's have one last cut at it Davy....

Has Mark Mchugh been much of a loss?; Was he bringing much to the setup?

[JoG2]

The Paddy Power Ranking

Dublin 13/8
Kerry 5/2
Derry 11/2
Galway 9/1
Mayo 10/1
Armagh 20/1
Donegal 22/1
Tyrone 25/1
Roscommon 80/1
Cork 100/1
Monaghan 100/1

I'm not sure that Galway/Mayo are hugely better than Armagh/Donegal/Tyrone but one of them will be Connacht champions and that has seeding advantages.

Wouldn't totally rule out Roscommon out. Won Connacht in 2017 and 2019 off the back of Division one relegation.

Mayo would be my bet, but the Rossies have forwards to trouble anyone.

The Rossies will have a big Connacht Championship as per usual.

Then disappear once the big boy stuff starts come All Ireland stage.

"Watch out
They'll tear your insides out"

Davy Burke has been planning for the last 9 months.
He is a really good coach. He practices scenarios over and over.

The odds reflect information that the power ranking does not. 

If they get to a semi final I will eat my words.

Whats stopping them from making the next step; they certainly have the forwards to do so.

Small margins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUXCHlZ8ZPc

Only an excuse.

What about the Cork game?

or Clare in 2022

They're not a top four team is what's stopping them getting to a semi final. They are a decent side tbf to them but just not quite that level. It's not a failure.

Would you say Monaghan are a top 4 team though? or even Tipperary.

Both have made 2 semis finals in recent years albeit one of Tipps had an astrix.

Roscommon should reach out to Cavan for a few pointers

Trust me I know we are a lot worse than the Rossies; but theres no hype about us.

Who's hyping Roscommon?

[armaghniac]

Ah yes covid year.

Basically for roscommon, and anyone else, to get to the semi final they need to avoid derry, dublin and kerry in any knock out match. They then probably need to meet someone of comparable level in the knockout to get through. Tyrone, Mayo, Galway, possibly Donegal and Armagh would likely be too much.

Exactly. There are 11 teams who can expect to make the top 12 resulting from the group stages, this year's Div 1 + Armagh, Donegal and perhaps Cork. Last year Sligo, Clare , Westmeath and Louth did not make it to the final 12 and something the same will happen this year. Three of the preliminary QFs last year had one point margins, pne nad pass or ball dropped and the result might have been different.
The Sam series is actually quite competitive other than Dublin are going to win it.