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If the team named starts then Sweeney and Maher can feel hard done by, Sweeney in particular has been really good in both group games to date but McHugh was always going to come straight back in I suppose. They are two great lads to be bringing in from the bench though and reflects some of the improved squad depth this year, Maher made a power of difference after his introduction against Westmeath. The condition of Finnerty is one to watch, only forward on that bench you'd be counting on for scores if changes needed. Burke and Walsh could do with showing up well on Sunday.

Interesting to see Cillian Ó Curraoin comes into the 26, he's not long in the panel after some of the U20's were brought in.
Actually, does anyone have the list of changes to the Galway championship panel? Reported that Gallagher departed and St. James' tweeted about Sam O'Neill's inclusion, any other information?

Some nerve to try overturn that. Everything is appealed these days. GAA top staff need grow some balls and update the rulebook. Gough said they don't want to know. Need bring in a rule unsuccessful appeals are doubled.

I disagree with your last line but agree something needs to be done about appeals. In soccer if you appeal and the FA deem it a frivolous appeal they can increase the ban. Maybe something like that

I hope O'Neill gets off on appeal and something comes to a head on this but it's unlikely it will.

Galway hurlers made a ridiculous appeal for Cianan Fahy to avoid a suspension last year for a stamp that was missed by the ref and it was successful, no county is immune from this. No one, bar John Mullane many moons ago, seems to be of a mind to take a suspension for blatant wrong doing. Appeals should be reserved for instances where players have clearly been done a disservice or where some other mistake has been made, I wouldn't class the red O'Neill got as either. I don't see the culture changing on this unfortunately.

I've decided to wait on Killarney for next weekend rather than go to Leitrim this weekend. What a shitty ground and venue for such a game, the low crowd and slow uptake in tickets says it all. Was not a game for Croker either as it would only have been 1/3 full...possible double header with 50-60k but the ideal ground would have been Brefni Pk or Tullamore etc. Anyway I expect Armagh to put up another gallant performance but still lose and play Kerry the following weekend which will probably be the end of their season (hope i'm wrong on both). This format is crap and fully expect change next year...The dates are a load of bollix...The Inter County season to be over by the end of July is shocking...

Armagh could top the group yet sure.

[Only kids so can't be too critical]

Dreadful Galway performance.
The basic skills so poor today.
Easy win for Derry

Only kids so can't be too critical but realistically that's one of the worst ever displays by football team representing Galway, they didn't show up at all.

Lol, jesus I wonder what you would have said if you were allowed to be too critical 

Sure it's minor, doesn't really matter, very hard on them to have such a non performance.

Dreadful Galway performance.
The basic skills so poor today.
Easy win for Derry

Only kids so can't be too critical but realistically that's one of the worst ever displays by football team representing Galway, they didn't show up at all.

[Totally different circumstances this year.]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2023/0608/1388127-armagh-and-galway-request-croke-park-switch/

This must be why the ticketing details have not been released yet. Seems a bit ridiculous to play a group game fixture in a quarter full stadium but if both counties agree to it then it could yet be switched. I think some people think that because the fixture got 40k last year that there will be a massive demand for this game but I just don't see it. Totally different circumstances this year.

That's the key point, be doing awful well to get even a quarter of the stadium filled, I can't see it anyway.

There's nothing available on general sale or for season ticket holders as of yet

What's the permutations for this group , Galway guaranteed top spot ?

Nothing guaranteed, Armagh win well next time out and they can top the group on score difference or head to head if Tyrone don't win.
Tyrone can only get top spot if both Tyrone and Armagh win and Tyrone are left with best score difference,
Only team that can't get top spot is Westmeath.
Armagh win/draw coupled with a Westmeath win and Tyrone are out.
Galway have most scope to finish top as they have best score difference at the moment and a draw will do them but could finish 3rd just as easy if Tyrone and Armagh win well.

Disagree totally on Breffni, we may as well have had a toss for match to be there or the Hyde then, Breffni is unbelievably inconvenient for Galway support compared to Armagh.

[They don't have the consistent range of kickers that Dublin or Galway have right now.]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/06/07/darragh-o-se-dublin-are-being-written-off-and-thats-what-they-will-like/

Mayo kept tipping and tapping away against Louth, but struggled to kick points the way they did against Kerry. Sure, Matthew Ruane kicked a great point, Paddy Durcan later on too, but they didn't get the same spread of scorers, or range of kickers, as the last day.

That's still their Achilles heel and could come back to haunt them. They don't have the consistent range of kickers that Dublin or Galway have right now.

The talk of Galway depth upfront is overplayed.
In terms of the forwards, outside of Comer and Walsh, no one has put up a big match winning scoring contribution in a match that mattered in CP. Galway depth at the minute is in the middle eight, plenty of lads in HF line that can chip in with one or two points (maybe that's all that will be needed but we didn't get it in the final last year) but would be worried that Walsh is miles out of form. Galway really need another heavy scorer to step up, Finnerty could be that player but he's been injured all year basically, if the ankle has hobbled him again then forget any meaningful impact this year given how much of the IC season is left. Tierney has it in him but needs to do it more often, Ian Burke is never going to be that big scorer, Cooke will get scores but unrealistic to expect 4 points from him every day given his role. Galway are really poor at finishing goal chances this year as well, my biggest worry about the team is up front to be honest.

Mayo don't even have one marquee forward. They don't produce them, for some reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nFGkGbs4DE&t=1012s

They have the top scorer of all time, I'm no fan of O'Connor because of his other antics but he scores often and scores heavy, how is that not marquee?

He is some freetaker but at the business end in all of those finals Mayo always seemed to come up against a scoring ceiling. This problem is very old. A marquee forward would have fixed it with a bit of support.

He kicked the equaliser for the draw 2016 final and it was not some easy tap over free, just inside the 45 and as high pressure a kick as you'd get. Middling lads don't get that score, I don't think on mature reflection that he is the reason they lost any of the finals, you mention a lack of support for a "marquee", I'd say that's more the issue.
I can't believe I'm having to defend a player I absolutely can't stand but here we are.

[They don't have the consistent range of kickers that Dublin or Galway have right now.]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/06/07/darragh-o-se-dublin-are-being-written-off-and-thats-what-they-will-like/

Mayo kept tipping and tapping away against Louth, but struggled to kick points the way they did against Kerry. Sure, Matthew Ruane kicked a great point, Paddy Durcan later on too, but they didn't get the same spread of scorers, or range of kickers, as the last day.

That's still their Achilles heel and could come back to haunt them. They don't have the consistent range of kickers that Dublin or Galway have right now.

The talk of Galway depth upfront is overplayed.
In terms of the forwards, outside of Comer and Walsh, no one has put up a big match winning scoring contribution in a match that mattered in CP. Galway depth at the minute is in the middle eight, plenty of lads in HF line that can chip in with one or two points (maybe that's all that will be needed but we didn't get it in the final last year) but would be worried that Walsh is miles out of form. Galway really need another heavy scorer to step up, Finnerty could be that player but he's been injured all year basically, if the ankle has hobbled him again then forget any meaningful impact this year given how much of the IC season is left. Tierney has it in him but needs to do it more often, Ian Burke is never going to be that big scorer, Cooke will get scores but unrealistic to expect 4 points from him every day given his role. Galway are really poor at finishing goal chances this year as well, my biggest worry about the team is up front to be honest.

Mayo don't even have one marquee forward. They don't produce them, for some reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nFGkGbs4DE&t=1012s

They have the top scorer of all time, I'm no fan of O'Connor because of his other antics but he scores often and scores heavy, how is that not marquee?

How many were at Armagh Tyrone match last weekend? Armagh people going on about the attendance at the Q final last year and all those fans missing out, they haven't been seen in the group stages, if they had then the match would have been scheduled for CP, you can guarantee it.
Cavan as a venue would have been unfair on Galway, just as the Hyde would have been for Armagh. Would have got more people in Tullamore or Mullingar but it's been fixed for an alternative neutral venue, if some people miss out then so be it, this is supposed to be a match in a neutral venue, not one that's way handier for one team in it. I actually hope it was originally fixed for Breffni and the Galway Co Board told them to get fucked.

Armagh appealing that red card is ridiculous.

Did you hear his uncle on the GAA Social podcast? Kept on that the GALWAY LINESMAN (repeated about 5 times, blatantly inferring that the linesman was looking to get him out of the match to come, which is ridiculous) wasn't looking to protect O'Neill but somehow only managed to spot this infraction, as if he's been hard done by, he had his knee on the other player's head FFS.

[They don't have the consistent range of kickers that Dublin or Galway have right now.]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/06/07/darragh-o-se-dublin-are-being-written-off-and-thats-what-they-will-like/

Mayo kept tipping and tapping away against Louth, but struggled to kick points the way they did against Kerry. Sure, Matthew Ruane kicked a great point, Paddy Durcan later on too, but they didn't get the same spread of scorers, or range of kickers, as the last day.

That's still their Achilles heel and could come back to haunt them. They don't have the consistent range of kickers that Dublin or Galway have right now.

The talk of Galway depth upfront is overplayed.
In terms of the forwards, outside of Comer and Walsh, no one has put up a big match winning scoring contribution in a match that mattered in CP. Galway depth at the minute is in the middle eight, plenty of lads in HF line that can chip in with one or two points (maybe that's all that will be needed but we didn't get it in the final last year) but would be worried that Walsh is miles out of form. Galway really need another heavy scorer to step up, Finnerty could be that player but he's been injured all year basically, if the ankle has hobbled him again then forget any meaningful impact this year given how much of the IC season is left. Tierney has it in him but needs to do it more often, Ian Burke is never going to be that big scorer, Cooke will get scores but unrealistic to expect 4 points from him every day given his role. Galway are really poor at finishing goal chances this year as well, my biggest worry about the team is up front to be honest.

An fhairche Abu , nah I think Galway will be off to croker where as the poor relation is off to tullamore .

Larry I'm feeling less confident I'll need a favour for that AI ticket.....

They have known exactly which teams were playing each other in Round 3 and that they all had to be in neutral venues since the evening of May 14th, it's a ridiculous situation.